SUBJECT: TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH ED DAMES FILE: UFO3253
Well, I dug through my files and located this from a private
correspondence from a friend. He has given permission to post it.
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Telephone Conversation with Ed Dames
12-3-91 11:15 to 12:10
A. This report is transcribed from some very rough notes. It
is biased toward completeness rather than verbatim accuracy. I
am merely reconstructing my general impression of the
conversation. Only the greatest uncertainties are noted
with question marks.
B. Ed has retired for some years from Army-Pentagon (DIA?)
intelligence work. He has gone commercial with his remote
viewing work with PSI Tech. Six workers, 2 currently on
sebatical for screwing up an assignment. Board of directors
and a "technical" review board that includes scientists,
philosophers and media types (e.g. BBC science editor). Ed
refers to himself as a "simple Christian guy." He and ___
both wore the "weird hats" wrt their resp. agencies.
C. Recent projects include viewing Iraqi military(nuclear)
installations for UN team, and helping Russians with tracing
unusual object photographed on Mars - Phobos probe.
Proposal for crop circle RVing, and ahve done some already.
Circles are done by angel types.
D. In the past couple of weeks Ed has given several TV
interviews for possible later broadcast, including one for
"48 Hours." Would not mind my blabbing to others or on
computer ntwrks, but avoid using the terms "angels" or
"metaphysics" with any media types. Would anybody else out
there mind - blabbing??
E. 60%(?) of their viewing work has involved UFO's. RV's of
many UFO events are blocked by external agency, (cosmic
censorship?).
F. UFO type viewing encounters 2 types of entities: aliens and
angels. Aliens are more physical with quasi-physical type
craft. They are in trouble and need our resources, which
they take, and if humans are involved they recieve mental
impressions to confuse what is really going on. The angels
are policing these alien activities. The angels technology
is more concerned with the mental and transcendental or
metaphysical domains. He suggests J Vallee's "Dimensions"
for a handle on the angels. Ed seemed ammenable to the
dualistic view of angels and aliens as presented in the "Ra
Material." It is not clear to me whether it was angels or
aliens that are manipulating human Cs wrt UFO contact?
G. Ed uses the terms ground zero or ground truth to refer to a
spot in SW US where much of their work is done. The angels
led them to this spot, indicating that it would be a good
place for contacting aliens, about 10 yrs(?) ago. Various
forms of contact then occurred. High energy voltage - fire
works, lights near a mesa, etc(?). Others cautioned danger
wrt first contacts, but Ed damned the torpedoes - guardian
angels(?).
H. We discussed eschatological implications at some length.
His group gets indications of unavoidable bad stuff in the
next couple(?) of decades. Deleterious climate changes,
storms adversely effecting agriculture. He also foresees a
quasi-public contact w/ UFO's near the ground zero site,
w/in 1.5 yr. It would be an ongoing contact, of a prophetic
sort with both A&A's involved. His review comm. will work
out possible coverage. He is not so concerned about a
global spiritual emergency, as about the
physical(meteorological?) emergencies.
I. Ingo Swann, his early mentor, is coming out with a book
related to eschatology.
J. He referred to the recent meeting that Maccabee attended,
American Optical, Sandia, McGarrity. He said Sandia or Los
Alamos might be best for a joint CC project w/___. But no
one at Pentagon. The informal Pentagon/Industry UFO group
had reached a dead end about two years ago. Too much
infighting, etc.
K. I volunteered to help out particularly with eschat. concerns
and Ed suggested there might be work wrt the review comm.
L. Several times I asked him about resistance to his contacts
and he expressed very little concern.
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