SUBJECT: LAZAR'S CREDIBILITY DAMAGED FILE: UFO2717
June 7, 1990
Recently ParaNet received a call from Gene Huff, Las Vegas real
estate appraiser and close friend of Robert Lazar, stating that he
wished to place a clarification on ParaNet for the record regarding
Lazar's recent felony indictment on a count of Pandering in Las
Vegas, Nevada by the Clark County Sheriff's Department. Lazar, in a
public statement made on KLAS-TV in April, admittedly told on camera
that he had been involved in a brothel in the Las Vegas area by
assisting in the installation of computer and security equipment.
Shortly after that, following an investigation by authorities,
charges were brought against Lazar. He could get up to five years if
convicted.
The big question now is: Does this damage Lazar's credibility along
with KLAS-TV reporter George Knapp, who featured Lazar on a news
special in November 1989? According to Huff and the statement that
follows, the answer is a big no.
What has further clouded the issue has been Bill Cooper's attacks on
Lazar and Knapp for their participation in what Cooper calls
"government disinformation activity." Cooper, a self-styled UFO
"guru" who claims to have seen super-secret UFO documents aboard a
Navy ship while enlisted in the early 1970s, has made various
statements about Lazar, Lear, Knapp and a host of other UFO
researchers being government agents intent on disinforming the
public.
The following is a letter received via ParaFAX on June 4, 1990 from
Gene Huff.
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Mike,
I am a Las Vegas real estate appraiser and I have known Bob Lazar
since late 1985, John Lear since mid-1988, and George Knapp since
early 1989. I thought some of the members of your service [ParaNet]
might need some actual FACTS regarding some of the accusations and
allegations made by Milton W. Cooper. I've written the following
pages which you may use, if you choose to do so.
MILTON W. COOPER IS A LIAR. Period.
So Cooper learned poker from granny and love from Annie, huh? Too
bad he didn't learn anything from George Washington and the cherry
tree briefing. The actual story of the "Bob Lazar-prostitution
connection" is as follows: Bob Lazar and his late first wife, Carol,
owned a legal brothel in northern Nevada during the early 1980's, so
Bob was familiar with the brothel business. Recently, he ran into a
hooker who was running a small brothel here in Las Vegas. Bob gave
her a bunch of ideas on how she could efficiently run her business.
She asked him to help her and said she would pay him for his
consultation. I guess this kind of parallels attorneys receiving
their fees from clients with questionable vocations, but I won't
argue that point here. He helped her by installing a computer, doing
some computer programming, accounting, installing security cameras
and monitors, etc. When all of the systems were running smoothly, Bob
was going to leave as he felt he had already received money
commensurate with what he felt he had contributed. She offered him
money just to stay around and do nothing, which seemed strange, but
Bob was going to part ways anyway, and the worst thing that could
have happened, happened. this hooker had fallen madly in love with
Bob. In a serious talk, she made her feelings known to him. She asked
how sexually attractive she was to him on a scale from 1 to 10.
Bob "Mr. Compassion" Lazar told her that, to him, she was a 1. She
cried for a day and a half.
This news was impossible to take for a woman who had for years
had men calling her on a daily basis offering to pay her money to
have sex with her. As it ends up, she is a Las Vegas Metro Vice,
FBI, and DEA informant. Now she has implicated him as being much
more involved than he actually was, for obvious motives. He has
not yet been charged, but with her connections, it appears certain
that he will be. this was all exposed by Bob Lazar ON TELEVISION
here in Las Vegas. This required no investigation by Cooper or
the knuckleheads from vice. There is much more to this story which
is better saved until Bob Lazar's freedom is certain.
The story of Bob Lazar running a drug lab is totally false. He is
currently doing some research at a small, privately funded lab here
in Las Vegas. The lab was recently randomly visited by one active
duty Las Vegas cop, and another ex-Las Vegas cop who both witnessed
that nothing illegal or as ludicrous as drug manufacturing was
going on there. Naturally, Sherlock Cooper didn't know this.
These are just two more classic examples of Cooper
misinterpreting an elementary body of information and jumbling it to
fit his distorted view of the world around him. This leaves only
Cooper to interpret what is "truth" while draped in an American
flag. Cooper labels his opponents as part of a government
band of conspirators, which is anyone who doesn't believe him,
disagrees with him, or actually knows and understands the
true source of his information, which in turn, is anyone who has
ever heard him speak or has read what he has written.
Cooper speaks as though Bob Lazar and John Lear are one item.
These are two separate men with very different ideas. Bob Lazar's
story is not phony, and he is not part of a band of government
agents. I knew him before he met John Lear, and before he
worked at S 4. I was with him the first and second times he met
Lear and they had no prior contact before that. As far as one of
them working for the other, what a joke.
I was present at both of Bob Lazar's polygraph sessions. These
were prior to George Knapp's November 1989 special. the first
night included two polygraphs with the same identical questions
being asked both times. He passed one and failed on. This is why
the results were considered inconclusive by the first polygrapher
and subsequent tests were suggested BY THE POLYGRAPHER. The
second test was done at a completely different company, about a
month later. Similar, but different questions were asked and Bob
Lazar passed. The polygraphs from the second night were then
reviewed by another polygrapher who also agreed that he had passed.
The polygraphs from the second night were then sent to a third
polygrapher in San Francisco, who was of the opinion that the Federal
government wouldn't lie about something like this, and he said he
thought the results were inconclusive. So to be fair, George Knapp
said the results were inconclusive. Actually, four polygraphers
reviewed the two night's tests. One polygrapher stated the first
night's tests were inconclusive. Two polygraphers stated that he
had passed the second night's tests, and one polygrapher thought
the second night's tests were inconclusive. This doesn't sound
like as big of a failure as Cooper makes it, does it?
The problem with Cooper's polygraph challenge is two-fold. First,
one of those challenged want to associate publicly or privately
with Cooper. Second, when someone actually believes their lies,
they register as truth on the polygraph. So for obvious reasons,
there is nothing to be gained by those challenged. Although
you must admit, Cooper and a polygraph is an amusing thought.
Bob Lazar does NOT develop dosimeter badges at Los Alamos and
Sandia labs. He manufactures and repairs alpha radiation probes.
He even owns a patent on one particular kind. Even an amateur
sleuth like Cooper could have access to that information.
Cooper is on the record on the Billy Goodman show as stating that
he checked Bob Lazar out, and that what Bob Lazar was stating
was true. (Not that Bob Lazar cared what Cooper thought.) I
guess Cooper has a lot of trouble with these sudden changes of mind.
Cooper overstated his exposure to Bob Lazar via John Lear. Bob
met Cooper twice at Lear's house. Kris, Bob's sister-in-law, was
with him one time, and they both came home of the opinion that
Cooper was crazy. The second time, I was invited but declined
since it appeared obvious to me that Cooper had taken the Kennedy
assassination information from the film "Dallas Revisited,"
narrated by Lars Hansen, and I did not want to associate with
Cooper in public, or privately. Bob went as a favor to John
Lear and although can't remember if anyone accompanied him, his
opinion of Cooper didn't change.
Cooper acts as though Lear and Lazar were "leaking"
information to him. Remember, only recently has Cooper become the
"World's Leading Authority on UFOs." Back then he was just a sailor
who said he saw a craft when he was in the Navy, no one worthy of
"leaking" anything to. And in reality that's all that Cooper WASN'T
and ISN'T important enough to perform for, even in a joking manner.
He shouldn't flatter himself in thinking that the government would
launch an attack on him. No one needs to discredit Cooper, he has
discredited himself. Those groups that want to march to
Washington to get amnesty for secret project participants who want
to speak out, had better not go there with Cooper. Anyone that can
access the classified library (and there are thousands nationwide),
knows that many of the dates and events Cooper speaks about are
inaccurate. And the events and dates that are accurate have
generally been stated on the record by others BEFORE Cooper is on
the record as having stated them. Anyway, he'd get laughed out
of Washington. This Cooper controversy appears to pretty much
be a regional issue in the West and Southwest U.S., thanks to the
Billy Goodman show, and now Cooper has turned on him, too. Authors
and researchers from all over the world have come to Las Vegas and
met Bob Lazar. The one common denominator that links all of them is
that they all know of at least one instance in which they don't
believe Cooper, either. This list of people includes, but is
certainly not limited to, Timothy Goode, Linda Howe, Jacques'
Vallee', Budd Hopkins, Bill Moore, etc. Incidentally, Bob Lazar
chose not to meet with Bill Moore. Within the first 15 minutes
George Knapp and I talked to Moore, Moore admitted not only lying
and giving out disinformation, he also said that he was the one
who had stolen the missing "metal" from the Billy Meier's
investigators. He said he had it analyzed and it could have been
made here on Earth. Since he was a self professed liar and thief,
Bob Lazar declined to meet him. We still wonder why he didn't
let the stolen Meier's metal resurface if it was a fake. Maybe he
lied about that, too. Anyway, it's a shame, because he's
an intelligent man and he could be a positive force.
Cooper's claims about Project Excalibur and O.H. Krill will be
covered in an upcoming issue of UFO Magazine so I won't go into
that here.
I have seen polaroid pictures of Falcon and Condor from the set of
the Fox Television Network a couple of years ago. I don't know if
their segments were taped or live, however, these pictures were
taken by two guys who had access to the set. I did not recognize
either of the gentlemen, but neither was John Lear. If someone
wanted to investigate whether or not John Lear is Condor, I
suggest that someone find out from the producers of the show when
Falcon and Condor did their segments. At that time, John Lear was
flying for American Trans Air as an L-1011 captain on flights to
Hawaii, Germany, etc. The flight logs should at least be able to
narrow down whether Lear was in the air or for that matter even in
this country at the time Falcon and Condor were present. Although
I personally find it hard to believe that anyone would care enough
one way or another to go through that much trouble. Since
George Knapp's May 1990 special news segments, Cooper has
been recorded on audio tape in a conversation with a Las
Vegas resident as saying that he's so pissed that Lear exposed him
as lying about the O.H. Krill papers that if Lear were in front of
him right then, he'd "Shoot the son of a bitch." Yet through all of
Cooper's attacks on Lear, Lear still insists that Cooper had an
original contribution. If that's true, it's unfortunate because
it has now been lost because of Cooper's subsequent actions.
This is a waste because even though Cooper is an amateurish writer
(as am I), he is a semi-adequate public speaker who arouses people.
If people will take Cooper's advice and read and investigator for
themselves, I'm sure they'll make their own decisions on Cooper soon
enough.
George Knapp was not AFRAID to call Cooper prior to his
special. Knapp had previously interviewed Cooper and had
apparently heard enough back then. Cooper got his rightful share of
time in both of Knapp's specials. George Knapp's career is not in
danger. Knapp knows more about Lazar than does the general
public, which includes Cooper. Knapp is just required to establish
Lazar's credentials before moving on to some of the more exciting
subjects Bob Lazar has commented on. Hopefully Knapp will make
his May 1990 news segments into an expanded special so we can
possibly hear some more testimony as to Cooper's credibility.
Cooper has publicly stated that he will tell his version of the
show of force by the gray aliens in central Nevada in 1979 in his
upcoming book. I hope it's not the same story Bob Lazar and I told
on the Billy Goodman show in 1989. I would hate for that story to
have mysteriously made it from the radio in 1989 all the way back to
the reports Cooper allegedly read between 1970 and 1973. After
all, this event hadn't even happened yet. Not even Cooper could try
that, could he?
Through all of this I have noticed only one solid connection with
Cooper and the Nixon Administration and that is that both Milton W.
Cooper and Richard M. Nixon both have upper lips which perspire
profusely when they're lying.
I guess the most amusing thing that has happened in the last two
years is that know Cooper has suddenly become a tough guy, at least
through his eyes. He calls everyone else wimps, and liars, and
traitors. I and many others are of the opinion that if they cast
for the part of WIMPY in the broadway version of POPEYE, Cooper
would be a lock for the part. And if indeed information, not money,
is the power of the 90's, Cooper will keep "borrowing" from everyone
involved, but don't worry, he'll gladly pay you Tuesday.
When all of the dust has settled, I don't think Milton W.
Cooper's nickname will any longer be Bill. I think it could be
Willie or probably even "Uncle Miltie," after all if the shoe
fits, right?
Gene Huff
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