SUBJECT: THE HILL ABDUCTION CASE                             FILE: UFO2712




PART 11




   Date: 06-24-91  13:22
   From: Bryce Eckstein
   Subj: Re: CBC Documentary

   Hello Rick!

   In a msg of <20 Jun 91>, Rick Graham writes to Bryce Eckstein:

   > What was the result of the documentary on Betty and Barney Hill? What
   > conclusion was reached?

   The  documentary  contains commentary and opinion  from  two  reputable
   astronomers and three equally reputable researchers.

   1.  Astronomer Terry Dickenson,  who's article about the Hill abduction
   in  Astronomy  Magazine  in 1974,  first brought the  incident  to  the
   attention of the scientific community.

   2.  Amateur Astronomer Marjorie Fisch,  found a real  three-dimensional
   distribution  of stars that perfectly matched Betty Hill's map,   first
   published in John Fuller's book, "Interrupted Journey".

   3.   Dr.   David  Jacobs,   Assistant Professor of  History  at  Temple
   University in Philadelphia, the only Prof teaching a course in UFO's at
   any major university in the U.S. or Canada, has spent his research time
   for  the  past  five  years,  exclusively on  alien  abductions.   He's
   interviewed 51  subjects from whom he has collected over 300  abduction
   stories.

   4. Dr. David Gottlieb, a Psychotherapist in Toronto.

   5.   Dr.   Michael Persinger,  a  Psychologist and  Neuro-Scientist  at
   Laurentian University in Sudbury,  Ontario.  With the exception of  Dr.
   Persinger,   who examined the Hill incident and compared it to  similar
   cases  from  a  neurological  viewpoint,  all  guests  on  the  program
   objectively ruled out hoax and supported the Hill's experience as being
   valid.

   Bottom lines:

   Dr. Gottlieb .. "Beats me!"

   Dr,  Jacobs .. (And I paraphrase here)  "The whole incident disturbs me
   greatly. I wish the scientific community had not heard of the Hill case
   and other's that I have researched.  But now that we have, we must come
   to grips with the fact that ET activity is a reality and make an effort
   to remove the blinders as to what is really going on". Dr. Persinger ..
   goes into how the experiences are likely manifestations of neurological
   activity.   Sorry,  that's as far as I can take his theories - far  too
   deep for my understanding {grin}.

   Marjorie Fisch .. is convinced the Hill star map is valid.

   Terry  Dickenson...  feels his role in the investigation is that of  an
   astronomical referee.  Here is a quote from Dickenson,  taken from  the
   tape:

   "We've   got   something  that  can  be  studied  completely  from   an
   astronomical  point  of view.  It seems to hold up  from  that  angle".
   "Also,  Betty Hill drew the map before the star atlases were  available
   to interpret it, so there is no possibility of any kind of confusion or
   faking  in  that  regard".  "But I back off completely  when  we  start
   talking  about  the  bizarre circumstances that  led  to  the  original
   drawing of the map,  the abduction scenario,  the hypnosis and all  the
   rest of it". "I feel totally unqualified to talk about it. I don't know
   where  it  all stands right now.  All I can say is that the map  works.
   Nobody  else come up with any other interpretation that works,   and  I
   have  to leave it at that".  I'm personally convinced Betty and  Barney
   Hill had a bona fide CEIII... and I too, will leave it at that.

   Cheers Bryce




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