SUBJECT: COOPER (ET. AL.) FILE: UFO2662
Date: 02-04-92 20:52
From: John Powell
To: John Stepkowski
Subj: Cooper (et. al.)
In a message to John Powell <03 Feb 92 2:18> John Stepkowski wrote:
>>> G'Day! (Sorry, I couldn't resist... <grin>)
> G'day John! I was going to use that salutation when I posted my first
> message to you, but I wasn't too confident about it then. Now that I
> see you're multi-lingual, I can throw my Australian-American
> dictionary away and get stuck in full bore, no worries mate! <nirg> -
> (downunder grin)
Hey! Do kangaroos adhere to the WBA or WBC boxing rules? <grin> And
what's this I hear about ya'll swimming with aligators and crocodiles
(!), are ya'll crazy or what? <grin>
On a serious and slightly related item, exactly what is the TV show
called Beyond 2000? I see it here on the Discovery Channel, a cable TV
channel, and I know it is Aussie but is it export or is it a real show
that you guys watch too?
> Moore seems to be like Stevens, involved in _many_ aspects of
> ufology; Philadelphia Experiment, MJ-12, Falcon, Condor etc. I'd
> welcome your thoughts on him.
Moore: He admitted to spying on private citizens for the US gov't. He
admitted telling carefully gov't-contrived lies and disinformation to
private citizens and reporting back to the gov't on the progress of
that activity. (If he admitted this much then one must wonder what
_else_ he's done but has not yet confessed...) I do not hold him in
high regard...
Stevens: As far as I can tell he is simply a businessman - nothing
more.
> The Lovette I was referring to was allegedly abducted by a UFO at a
> military base and his body was recovered badly mutilated some days
> later. I'll check the text file I read this in and get back to you
> if you like.
Please do, I have no references on a Lovette except for English's
mention in the alleged Blue Book #13:
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[...] Report gave clear indication of reports of human mutilations,
most notably was a case witnessed by Air Force personnel in which an
Air Force Sgt. E-6 by the name of Jonathan P. Lovette was observed
being taken captive aboard what appeared to be a UFO at the WHITE sands
Missile Test Range in New Mexico. This abduction took place in March of
1956 at about 0300 local and was witnessed by Major William Cunningham
of the United States Air Force Missile Command near Holloman Air Force
Base.
Major Cunningham and Sgt. Lovette were out in a field downrange from
the launch sites looking for debris from a missile test when Sgt.
Lovette went over the ridge of a small sand dune and was out of sight
for a time. Major Cunningham heard Sgt. Lovette scream in what was
described as terror or agony. The Major, thinking Lovette had been
bitten by a snake or something ran over the crest of the dune and saw
Sgt. Lovette being dragged into what appeared to him and was described
as being a silvery disk like object which hovered in the air
approximately 15 to 20 feet. Major Cunningham described what appeared
to be a long snake-like object which was wrapped around the sergeant's
legs and was dragging him to the craft. Major Cunningham admittedly
froze as the sergeant was dragged inside the disc and observed the disc
and observed the disc going up into the sky very quickly. Major
Cunningham got on the jeep radio and reported the incident to Missile
Control whereupon Missile Control confirmed a radar sighting. Search
parties went into the desert looking for Sgt. Lovette. Major
Cunningham's report was taken and he was admitted to the White Sands
Base Dispensary for observation.
The search for Sgt. Lovette continues for three days at the end of
which his nude body was found approximately ten miles downrange. The
body had been mutilated;the tongue had been removed from the lower
portion of the jaw. An incision had been made just under the tip of the
chin and extended all the way back to the esophagus and larynx. He had
been emasculated and his eyes had been removed. Also, his anus had been
removed and there were comments in the report on the apparent surgical
skill of the removal of these items including the genitalia. The report
commented that the anus and the genitalia had been removed `as though a
plug' which in the case of the anus extended all the way to the colon.
There was no sign of blood within the system. The initial autopsy
report confirmed that the system had been completely drained of blood
and that there was no vascular collapse due to death by bleeding. Sub-
comment was added that this was unusual because in any body who dies of
bleeding or in the case of a complete blood loss there is always
vascular collapse. Also noted was that when the body was found there
were a number of dead predatory type birds within the area who
apparently had died after trying to partake of the sergeant's body.
There were a number of extremely grisly black and white photographs.
From all indications the body had been exposed to the elements for at
least a day or two. The New Mexico sun in the desert is extremely hot
and debilitating under normal circumstances. [...] Major Cunningham was
initially accused of murdering Sgt. Jonathan P. Lovette. Charges were
later dropped.
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I have no idea if any investigation of these claims was ever
undertaken. Given that a month/year are available, a specific location,
and _two_ names it shouldn't be overly difficult to determine if such
people did or do exist in the US military. (On the other hand, _not_
finding them listed in the military could be taken by some to indicate
a cover-up...<grin>)
> The rocket incident was definitely not mentioned in the Grudge 13
> document I've seen.
It is in another document, generally named CHAP1.* (about 50Kb), and
was essentially the working draft/outline for Bill's great American
novel-to-be. Let me know if you can't get ahold of it.
The Grudge 13 material suffers from one glaring problem: It does not
contain anything _new_, it precisely parallels the known phenomenon
plus the alleged phenomenon but does not provide _anything_ that hasn't
already been allegedly reported... I find that curious...
> John Powell writes: "Dear You Asked For It, I've long wanted to know
> what goes on in the 'Blue Room' at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. A
> friend of mine says it contains lots of little grey aliens and bits
> of flying saucers. I'd love to know what REALLY goes on in there.
> "Okay John, let's go and take a look because ... _You_ Asked For It!
Cool!
> (Much easier than messing around with all that FOIA stuff, eh? Only
> problem is, I wonder what sort of TV reception you'd get in
> Levenworth?)
Now that you mention it that FOIA stuff does look better already...
<grin>
Thanks, take care.
John.
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