SUBJECT: THE PHOENIX PROJECT FROM A GENIE FORUM              FILE: UFO2506



PART 9




   Filename: Phoenix9.Edi
   Type    : Editorial/Opinion
   Author  : Sean Pobuda
   Date    : 10/27/92
   Desc    : Editorial on the Phoenix Project's K2 Report


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   I  have  been  reading with interest the publications of  the  "Phoenix
   Project" which, if believed,  are evidence for the presence of an alien
   base  in  California.  I  would,  however,  like to point out one  more
   discrepancy in their story. In Report #4,  the following information is
   given regarding a UFO sighting:

   By Staff #2
   Date: August 10, 1989
   Time: 2212 PDT

   ..."the moon was still below the horizon."

   Now here is one place where a simple fact is stated and can be checked.
   I  did.  Using four separate planetarium and moon position  calculation
   programs,  I determined that the moon on that night at that time was as
   follows:

   RA   : 16 hr 8 min
   DEC  : -26.17 degrees (this means in the constellation of Scorpio)
   Phase: 9.5 days passed new moon (waxing gibbous)

   What  this  means is that the moon would be between first  quarter  and
   full, and would have risen before sunset and been in the sky during the
   evening hours before midnight. The report states that the sky was clear
   with stars visible.

   The  moon was low in the western horizon,  but certainly not  "...still
   below the horizon."

   What  is interesting is that no one has (to my knowledge)  checked this
   simple statement. Since the moon had certainly already risen and should
   have  been visible in the sky,  one might assume that the statement  it
   hat  not yet risen (was "still below the horizon")  was put in to  help
   eliminate the moon as a possible explanation for the UFO sighting.  Did
   the author, therefore, add this statement so no one could accuse him of
   mistaking the moon for a UFO?  This is what you would expect of someone
   who was making up a story, not the on-site notes of an actual observer.
   Apparently  the  bit  about  the moon not yet having  risen  was  added
   without checking the moon's actual position on that night.

   In anticipation of a counter-argument that since the moon was close  to
   its setting time and, in a moutainous area, might possibly have already
   gone behind a mountain and therefore not be visible to the observer,  I
   can  only  point out that in that case the observer,  who had  been  on
   watch for a while at least,  would have seen the moon earlier and known
   that it had just set. He would, therefore, not describe it as "the moon
   was still below the horizon."  That certainly implies that the moon had
   not yet risen, when, in fact, it had been in the sky all evening.

   My  feeling is that 99.9999  percent of all UFO reports and claims  are
   fakes,  mistakes, hoaxes, mis-identifications,  and other human errors.
   But  let us continue our search for a little signal in all  that  noise
   (to steal a phrase from engineering).

   Yours,
   Sean




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