SUBJECT: THE PHOENIX PROJECT FROM A GENIE FORUM              FILE: UFO2500



PART 3



   Filename: Phoenix3.Rpt
   Type    : Report
   Author  : Steve Jones
   Date    : 08/23/92
   Desc.   : Official report from the Sacramento UFO SIG on K2

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     The Sacramento UFO SIG (Special Interest Group)  is a small group  of
   individuals who have keen interest in expanding their knowledge on this
   subject.   We  have been meeting officially for one year  and  numerous
   members  of this group have had significant encounters.  Like  most  of
   you, we have a keen interesting in the Who, What and especially the Why
   on this subject.

     The SIG has made four trips up to K2 during the last 3 weeks,  and at
   this  point,  to be frank,  we have come up empty handed.  This is  not
   saying  that there is nothing up there,  but we are not seeing evidence
   of anything at this time. Due to the fact that there have been a flurry
   of sightings occurring approximately 75 miles to the south of K2 (Pilot
   Peak),   both ourselves and apparently several MUFON members are of the
   opinion that the Greys may have moved their operations to the south.

     We have made the following observations.

     1. The  area,  although remote,  is somewhat heavily traveled by  the
        locals.  This, we feel,  is the reason for the very smooth surface
        of the road. Road traffic is light,  if not nonexistent,  at night
        (usually  between  about  9:00PM and around 4:00AM when the  local
        loggers  start  coming  through from Quincy to go to work  at  the
        logging  sites).  There seems  to  be extensive logging  going  on
        between the mountain and the junction of the Quincy-  LaPorte Road
        and the road that goes up to Little  Grass Valley Lake.  It is our
        opinion  that the reason that the road is paved from the  base  of
        the mountain, up and through the valley below  the peak itself and
        to the top of the rise that over looks the Feather  River  canyon,
        is  the possibility of eliminating washouts,  especially along the
        face of the hill just below the valley entrance.

     2. The valley itself, which contains the Onion Valley creek,  is not,
        in  my  opinion,  anything unusual for the Sierras.  The place  is
        teeming with life,  including bear,  deer, owls, squirrels, birds,
        frogs and in the evening, loads of bats (which swarm down from the
        mountain).  Two of the  people  who went up to the mountain  (John
        Pickens and Ed Stewart) went  up to the lookout and they said that
        there was a lot of evidence of  extensive rat population up there.
        I  have personally walked over approximately 75%  of  that  valley
        floor and about 25% of the slope to the south (which is just below
        the  face of the mountain.  I  have found very little evidence  of
        anything out of the ordinary, especially cave or  cavern openings.
        In  fact,  I  found little if any indication that anyone had  been
        walking up there within recent weeks.

        The pond is made from a small man-made dam, which appears to be at
        least 20  years old.  I  can see the distinct possibility that the
        forest service made it to create a water source in case of  fires.
        I did see the  area that the report mentions regarding the  washed
        out part of the dam.  The pond is,  according to a man that one of
        our party interviewed,  fish-less.  It does, however, have several
        resident ducks, which make a considerable amount  of  noise during
        the night.  The bats feed extensively on the insects that populate
        the  pond and they are somewhat aggressive.  You can toss a  small
        stone  up in the air and the bats will go after it.  John  Pickens
        showed us that little trick.

     3. We were only approached once by a local sheriff, who simply wanted
        to know what we were doing sitting by the side of the road late at
        night. This was just after he had left the campground which held a
        large  group  of  local indians,  who were camping  there.   These
        indians  were  very much aware of our presence and no  doubt  were
        concerned about us. Since the mountains of California are known to
        have  drug  farmers,  it  is prudent to maintain  one's  distance.
        Mountain folks are a quiet bunch and usually have little to say to
        "flat  landers."  We only saw US Forest  Service  Ranters  driving
        their trucks on the road and we were never approached about why we
        were in the area.

     4. Pilot Peak (K2) is indeed in a fairly remote area, which given the
        patterns  of  life of the area,  could be an ideal spot  for  some
        surreptitious activity.  Logistical it is in a very good location,
        considering  the  local  terrain,  it's relationship to  areas  in
        Northern  California and Nevada and it's relative ease of  access.
        If  I were going to  build  a secret base in Northern  California,
        this area would be ideal.   The roads leading to the site from the
        south  are  paved up to within 10  miles of the mountain  and  the
        loggers and the locals, use it extensively from 4:00AM until about
        9:00PM.  As I have mentioned above from  9:00PM until 4:00AM,  the
        road is deserted and the place is very quiet.

        The  area  to  the west of the mouth of the U-shaped  valley  just
        below the peak goes  into a long narrow canyon,  which the Phoenix
        group  describes  in their report.  I  can see that this could  be
        utilized to gain access below radar.

     5. The  marshes behind and in front of the pond have  tall  rice-like
        grass and there are areas that appear to have been flattened,  but
        not in the classic crop-circle sense. The pattern of the flattened
        grass is  uni-directional and  it does appear to have been  folded
        over  and  braided,   but there is no defined shape to  the  areas
        themselves. There are approximately 10 of these sites either below
        the dam or behind it and they all have signs of foot traffic going
        into them. The grass in these  areas show signs of browning and do
        not show any of the signs of burning (either shaded or tip-burning
        as  mentioned in the crop circle evidence).  I  walked the  entire
        area of both marshes and saw no signs of circular burn marks.

     6. Regarding  the comments that the Phoenix Group has made about  the
        feelings  that their team has regarding being watched,  there were
        two  separate  incidents that occurred while we were up there that
        gives me pause to reflect.

        The  first  of these events occurred when my son and  I originally
        went to the mountain three weeks ago.  At the time,  I  didn't see
        the significance of it, but I do now. It was dusk and my son and I
        had  set up  my tripod and camera on the dam looking  towards  the
        peak.  It was somewhat  of a moonlight night and the bats had just
        come  out.   It was approximately 9:30PM on Saturday,  the 8th  of
        August.   Suddenly I heard what appeared to be the sounds of  bear
        cubs. I immediately recognized the  sounds,  having spend years in
        the woods.  Instantly, I had the uneasy  feeling  that mother bear
        might be close and I told my son to take the  tripod and we should
        quietly go back to the car.  Since we hadn't  intended to stay the
        night,  we decided to leave the area. The location of these noises
        were  approximately 150  feet up the side of the mountain  to  the
        South-South West of the southern tip of the dam.

        On the evening of Wednesday, the 12th I went up to the mountain by
        myself  and  spent the night parked by the side of the  main  road
        which is slightly above the valley floor and has an excellent view
        of the entire valley. The only significant noise that I heard that
        night was from a very loud owl, who hooted from the very same area
        that the bear noises emminate from.

        On Saturday,  the 15th,  myself and Ed Stewart spent the afternoon
        and early evening up at K2.  I  walked up the side of the hill  to
        the  south,   southeast  of  the pond with Ed and we set  up  some
        listening equipment (sensitive mikes,  including one contact mike,
        which I set up on some solid granite).  Suddenly,  Ed said,  "What
        was that???",  motioning over into  the  same area of the hillside
        that I have previously mentioned with the owl and bear sounds.  It
        gave me a very short term feeling of uneasiness, but it pasted. At
        that  point I was under the impression that  we were sitting  over
        the  area that was supposed to have the base entrance.  Later,   I
        found out that I was wrong.

        Last night, on the evening of August 22nd, I spoke to Jack Mathias
        on the phone. I  essentially told him what I have transcribed here
        with  the exception of the strange noises and their locations.   I
        told him that we had been looking for the base entrances and  were
        having trouble finding them.  It was then that he told me that the
        main  one was to the south-  southwest of the southern tip of  the
        dam, approximately 150-165 feet up the  side  of the hill and that
        apparently  I  had  been looking at the  wrong  place  all  along.
        Whether the locations of the noises that myself, Ed Stewart and my
        son  Kris  have heard are in fact located nearer to  the  supposed
        entrance  is  still  an open question.  If so,  the there  is  the
        possibility that someone may have been trying to warn us away,  by
        playing mind games with us. I didn't think of it at the time,  but
        this  reminds  me  of  the types of things that  Whitley  Streiber
        experienced. HUMMMM!!????

     In conclusion,  we still have some unanswered questions regarding the
   K2  site.  We do question some of the allegations of the Phoenix Group,
   but  haven't closed the book yet.  There is still the possibility  that
   there  is something going on up there,  but we feel that the burden  of
   proof is on the Phoenix Group.  The data that they have listed in their
   report  is  outlined with some inconsistencies.  The grid  pattern  for
   their  magnetometer  readings  is  devoid of  X,Y  co-ordinate  markers
   corresponding  to their readings.  The maps of the area that they  have
   listed in the report doesn't have marked on it the origin (0,0)   point
   for the X,Y grid. For a scientific report, this is a very sizeable data
   error.

     We  also have some problem with their conclusions regarding the  road
   and it's usage,  the quizzical nature of the rangers,  the lack of life
   around the area and in particular the LZ sites that they mention. I can
   see that the place would make an excellent site for a secret base,  but
   it's existence is still questionable. We have, as I have mentioned, not
   closed the book on this case, and will keep everyone posted.

     I  would  like  to take this opportunity to give thanks to  the  very
   helpful  efforts and support from Ed Stewart,  John Pickens and my  son
   Kristopher  Jones.   I  have found that when it comes down to making  a
   commitment to field research, there are often few, if any volunteers. I
   greatly appreciate those who participated. Thanks.

     Sincerely- Steve Jones, co-moderator of the Sacramento UFO SIG.




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