SUBJECT: MILITARY UFO WITNESSES                              FILE: UFO2035




>> The question is often asked, why don't more military UFO
witnesses come forward publicly, and provide names, dates
and places? Surely they aren't REALLY intimidated by such
empty threats as JANAP 146-E, which provides for hefty fines
and jail sentences for breaking silence on a military UFO
sighting. Surely they realize the scien- tific import of
their sighting transcends any nationalist or mili- tary
considerations. If more military witnesses don't come forth
publicly, isn't it possible that there aren't really as many
as hardcore ufologists would have us believe? Its a question
I've often asked myself.

ParaNet is deeply indebted to, and a little honored by, user Bill
Cooper of Fullerton, California, for this, the first known report
of a multiple military witness sighting that occurred onboard the
submarine USS Tiru in 1966.
                             --Jim Speiser
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In 1966 during the month of the Rose Festival in the Pacific
Northwest United States, the USS Tiru SS-416 left Pearl
Harbor bound for Seattle Washington.  The sub moored to a
civilian pier near the downtown Seattle area and thousands
of people toured the sub during its stay in Seattle.  After
its duty as "showboat" it proceeded to a back bay area
where it underwent torpedo trials.  I believe the area was
called dabob bay [pronounced day-bob] but I am not sure of
the spelling.  I include the above information because it
should be easy to research.  During the cruise from Pearl
to Seattle five of the crew had a very unusual experience.
During one late afternoon the sub was cruising on the
surface at approx. 10 knots when the port lookout reported
a strange contact at a range of 2 miles bearing 315 degrees
relative.  The lookout refused to tell the OOD what it was
that he had seen and instead insisted that the starboard
lookout and the OOD both look at that area.  The three men
looked through their binoculars toward the area reported
and were astounded to see a metal craft larger than a
football field tumble from the clouds into the ocean.  It
actually tumbled end over end and when it hit the water and
sank beneath the ocean huge geysers of water rose into the
air.  When the port lookout was sure that the others had
seen it he then told the OOD that he had seen it tumble
from the ocean up into the clouds.  The OOD and the
starboard lookout were speechless.  Within a few minutes,
however, they all became excited when it again rose from
the water and tumbled up into the cloud layer.  At about
the same time a crew member below queried the bridge about
a radar contact at the same range and bearing.  Sonar also
reported strange echos.  The OOD called for the Captain to
come to the bridge at that time. He also called for the
camera to be sent to the bridge.  The Captain arrived on
the bridge within 2 minutes and the Chief Quartermaster was
right behind him with the camera. At about the same time
the object emerged from the clouds and fell down into the
ocean.  All five men witnessed this.  The QMC took pictures
as it rose up into the clouds and then back down into the
ocean once again.  The five men watched for quite a while
longer but nothing else happened.  Soon the sub had moved
out of visual range and the Captain told all witnesses that
they were never to discuss what they had seen with anyone
under any circumstances.  He stated that the incident was
classified information.  The Captain then went below and
sent a radio msg.  There was no doubt as to what we had
seen.  It was a metal craft with machinery on and around
the outside of it.  It appeared to have windows or lenses
placed around its perimeter.  It made no noise that we
could hear.  It did not disturb the subs electrical systems
nor did it affect the gyro compass.  It looked very much
like a round flying "ship" as in sea going ship.  It had
the shape and form of a saucer with a bowl inverted in the
saucer and it was huge.  I will never forget it as long as
I live. When I first saw this craft I believe that my heart
literally stopped beating and I was terrified.  The name of
the OOD was Ensign Ball.  The starboard lookout was an
American Indian seaman that the crew called Geronimo. The
port lookout was a new man who left the sub soon after the
return to Pearl Harbor and his name was Cooper.  I do not
remember the Captain's name nor the Chief Quartermaster's
name.  This is the first time I have ever mentioned it
since the moment that the Captain told me that it was
classified. As far as I know it has never been reported to
the public before this instant.  It should be easy to
verify the facts if you can get a copy of the log and/or
contact the other witnesses.  The names should not be too
hard to find in the ships records/logs.  I was the port
lookout.  I must say that I feel a great uneasyness in
posting this, much like the way I felt in Vietnam when my
life was in great danger.

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