SUBJECT: FOIA: DOCS ON UFOs # 20-29 - CUFON                  FILE: UFO1715




FOIA # 20


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Document #: 20
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 06-10-1986
 Subject: 1986 ANSWER TO NSA

         CUFON - UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

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Mr. Dennis C. Chadwick                                        3-7-86
Chief, Information Policy
National Security Agency
Fort George G. Meade
Maryland 20755-6000

Dear Mr. Chadwick:

Thank you for your letter of 3 March 1986 and reply to my previous letter
on Project Aquarius.  I understand from your letter that you intend to
abide strictly by the letter of the law in responses to FOIA requests.  I
had not realized that this was the attitude of the NSA or I would not have
bothered you with questions in general.  I have gotten the impression from
other sources that the NSA does not maintain a generally open attitude
toward the public, particularly where the subject of unidentified aerial
objects is involved, and while completely understand the need to restrict
some information what good is a country if its citizens are kept ignorant.
Personally I feel that assessing a $15,000 charge for information is
simply a convenient way to disuade requests.

Let me therefore rephrase my request as I would prefer to judge for myself
whether Aquarius has anything to do with my interests.  Firstly, I do not
want to endanger this country or any of its intelligence gathering
sources.  I am not a spy or a subversive, my father is a surgeon and Lt.
Colonel in the Air Force and I wouldn't want to harm his career.
Therefore I am requesting just a clean copy of the material NSA is
maintaining which describes what the goal of project Aquarius is.  I am
not asking for all material you have but simply the initial forms, papers,
or letters, which initiated this project and those which outline its
purpose.

I cannot conceive that there should be anything but negligible costs to
photocopy these materials.  This should be waived inasmuch as it should be
in the interest of the public to be aware of what their taxes are paying
for.  But if NSA needs reimbursement of copying costs then please let me
know what the cost will be.

Sincerely,

Mr.______________________
_________________________
_________________________

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FOIA # 21


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Document #: 21
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-11-1986
 Subject: 1980 RAF WOODBRIDGE

                          DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE

                    HEADQUAILRS  COMBAT SUPPORT GROUP (USAFC)

                                 APO NEW YORK

REPLY TO:                                                       13 JAN 81
          CD
ATIN OF.

SUBJECT:  Unexplained Lights

TO:  RAF/CC

    1. Early in the morning of 27 Dec 80 (approximately 0300L),two USAF
    security police patrolmen saw unusual lights outside the back gate at
    RAF Woodbridge. Thinking an aircraft might have crashed or been force
    down, they call for permission to go outside the gate to investigate.
    The on-duty flight chief reponded and allowed three patrolmen to pro-
    ceed on foot.The individuals reported seeing a strange glowing object
    in the forest.The object was described as being metalic in appearance
    and triangular in shape, approximately two to three meters across the
    base and approximately two meters high. It illuminated the entire fo-
    rest with a white light. The object itself had a pulsing red light on
    top and a bank(s) of blue lights underneath. The object was hovering
    or on legs. As the patrolmen approached the object, it maneuvered th-
    rough the trees and disappeared. At this time the animals on a nearby
    farm went into a frenzy. The object was briefly sighted approximately
    an hour later near the back gate.

    2.  The next day, three depressions 1 1/2" deep and 7" in diameter
    were found where the object had been sighted on the ground. The foll-
    owing night (29 Dec 80) the area was checked for radiation.Beta/Gamma
    readings of 0.1 milliroentgens were recorded with peak reading in the
    three depressions and near the center of the triangle formed by the
    depressions. A nearby tree had moderate (.05-.07)readings on the side
    of the tree toward the depressions.

    3.  Later in the night a red sun-like light was seen through the tree
    . It moved about and pulsed. At one point it appeared to throw off
    glowing particles and then  broke into five separate white objects
    and then disappeared. Immediately thereafter, three star-like objects
    were noticed in the sky.Two objects to the north and one to the south
    , all of which were about 10 degrees off the horizon. The objects
    moved rapidly in sharp angular movements and displayed red, green and
    blue lights. The objects to the north appeared to be elliptical thro-
    ugh an 8-12 power lens. They then turned to full circles. The objects
    to the north remained in the sky for an hour or more. The object to
    the south was visible for two or three hours and beamed down a stream
    of light from time to time. Numerous individuals, including the unde-
    rsigned, witnessed the activities in paragraphs 2 and 3.

    CHARLES I. HALT, Lt Col, USAF

    Deputy Base Commander

FOIA # 22


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Document #: 22
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-12-1986
 Subject: 1975 B.GOLDWATER,REQ-INFO

BARRY GOLDWATER                                          Committees:
 Arizona                                        Aeronautical & Space Sci.
                                                Armed Services
                                                Preparedness Inv Subcommit
                       UNITED  STATES  SCNATE   Tactical Air Power Subcomm
                        Washington D.C. 20510   N. S. Naval Petroleum
                                                Reserves Subcommittee
March 28, 1975

Mr.Shlomo Arnon
U.C.L.A. Experimental College
308 Westwood Plaza
Los Angeles, California 90024

Dear Mr.Arnon:

The subject of UFOs is one that has interested me for some time.
About ten or twelve years ago I made an effort to find out what was
in the building at Wright Patterson Air Force Base where the information
is stored that has been collected by the Air Force, and I was
understandably denied this request.

It is still classified above Top Secret.  I have, however, heard that
there is a plan under way to release some, if not all, of this material in
the near future.  I'm just as anxious to see this material as you are, and
I hope we will not have to wait too much longer.

Sincerely.

Barry Goldwater

FOIA # 23


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Document #: 23
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-12-1986
 Subject: 1981 GOLDWATER,LETTER # 2

BARRY GOLDWATER                                                Cmmittees:

                                                   Intelligence Chairman
                                                   Armed Services
                                                   Tactical Warfare.Chair
                      UNITED  STATES  SENATE       Preparedness
                       Washington D.C. 20510       Strategic Nuclear Force
                                                   Communications Chairman
October 19,1981                                    Aviation
                                                  Science Technology and
                                                  Space
                                                  Indian Affairs

Mr. Lee M. Grahan:
526 West Maple
Monrovia, California 91016

Dear Mr.Graham:

First, let me tell you that I have long ago give up acquiring access to
the so-called Blue Room at Wright-Patterson, as I have had one long
string of deials from chief after chief, so I have give up.

In answer to your questions, "one is essentially correct." I don't know
of anyone who has access to the "Blue Room," nor am I aware of its
contents and I am not aware of anything having been relocated. I can't
answer your question six, in fact, I can't find anyone who would answer
it.

To tell you the truth, Mr Graham, "this thing has gotten so highly
classified," ecen though I will admit there is a lot of it that has been
released, "it is just impossible to get anything on it."

I am returning your papers because I know they are of value to you.

Sincerely,

Barry Goldwater

FOIA # 24


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Document #: 24
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-12-1986
 Subject: 1983 GOLDWATER,LETTER # 3

BARRY GOLDWATER                                             Committees:

                                                  Intelligence Chairman
                                                  Armed Services
                                                  Tactical Warfare Chair
                      UNITED  STATES  SENATE      Preparedness
                                                  Strategic Nuclear Forces
                                                  C. S. Transportation
June 20, 1983           Washington D.C. 20510      Communications Chairman
                                                 Aviation
                                                 Science Technology and
                                                 Space
                                                 Indian Affairs



Mr. William S. Steinman
15043 Rosalita Drive
La Mirada, California 90638


Dear Mr.Steinman:

To answer your questions, I have never gained access to the so-called
"Blue Room" at Wright Patterson, so I have no idea what is in it. I have
no idea of who controls the flow of "need-to-know" because, frankly, I
was told in such an emphatic way that it was none of my business that
I've never tried to made it my business since.

I wish you luck on your investigation. I'm one of those people who
believe that with some two billion planets scattered around our universe,
there has to be a couple of more that can subport life on it.

Sincerely,

Barry Goldwater

FOIA # 25


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Document #: 25
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-20-1986
 Subject: 1942 MEMO FOR PRESIDENT


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                                                    February 26, 1942.

   OCS  21347-86


        MENORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

                  The following is the information we have from GHQ
        at this mement regarding the air alarm over Los Angeles of
        yesterday morning:

                  "From details available at this hour:


                    1. Unidentified airplanes, other then American
           Army or Navy planes, were probably over Los Angeles, and
           were fired on by elements of the 37th CA Brigade  ( AA )
           between 3:12 and 4:15 AM.  These units expended  1430
           rounds of ammunition.

                    2. As many as fifteen airplanes may have
           been involved, flying at various speeds from what is
           officially reported as being very slow to as much
           as 200 MPH and at elevations from 9000 to 18000 feet.

                    3. No bombs were dropped.

                    4. No casualties among our troops.

                    5. No planes were shot down.

                    6. No American Army or Navy planes were in action.

               Investigation continuing. It seems reasonable to conclude
           that if unidentified airplanes were involved they may have
           been from commercial sources, operated by enemy agents for
           purposes of spreeding alarm, disclosing location of antiair-
           craft positions, and slowing production through blackout.
           Such conclusion is supported by varying speed of operation and
           the fact that no bombs were dropped.

                                                 Gen. George C. Marshall

                                                      Chief Of Staff

FOIA # 26


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Document #: 26
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-21-1986
 Subject: 1950 W.B. SMITH MEMO

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                               TOP SECRET
                                                    CONFIDENTIAL
                         DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT

                   INTRA-DEPARTMENTAL CORRESPONDENCE

                                     OTTAWA, Ontario, November 21, 1950
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                           Geo-Magnetics                       (R.ST.)
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MEMORANDUM TO THE CONTROLLER OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS:

            For the past several years we have been engaged in the study
of various aspects of radio wave propagation.  The vagaries of this
phenomenon have led us into the fields of aurora, cosmis radiation,
atmospheric radio-activity and geo-magnetism.  In the case of
geo-magnetics our investigations have contributed little to our knowledge
of radio wave propagation as yet, but nevertheless have indicated several
avenues of investigation which may well be explored with profit.  For
example, we are on the track of a means whereby the potential energy of
the earth's magnetic field may be abstracted and used.

            On the basis of theoretical considerations a small and very
crude experimental unit was constructed approximately a year ago and
tested in our Standards Laboratory.  The tests were essentially successful
in that sufficient energy was abstracted from the earth's field to operate
a voltmeter, approximately 50 milliwatts.  Although this unit was far from
being self-sustaining, it nevertheless demonstrated the soundness of the
basic principles in a qualitative manner and provided useful data for the
design of a better unit.

            The design has now been completed for a unit which should be
self-sustaining and in addition provide a small surplus of power.  Such a
unit, in addition to functioning as a `pilot power plant' should be large
enough to permit the study of the various reaction forces which are
expected to develop.

            We believe that we are on the track of something which may
well prove to be the introduction to a new technology.  The existence of a
different technology is borne out by the investigations which are being
carried on at the present time in relation to flying saucers.

            While in Washington attending the NARB Conference, two books
were released, one titled "Behind the Flying Saucer" by Frank Scully, and
the other "The Flying Saucers are Real" by Donald Keyhoe.  Both books
dealt mostly with the sightings of unidentified objects and both books
claim that flying objects were of extra-terrestrial origin and might well
be space ships

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FOIA # 27


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Document #: 27
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-21-1986
 Subject: 1950 W.B.SMITH MEMO #2

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from another planet.  Scully claimed that the preliminary studies of one
saucer which fell into the hands of the United States Government indicated
that they operated on some hitherto unknown magnetic principles.  It
appeared to me that our own work in geo-magnetics might well be the
linkage between our technology and the technology by which the saucers are
designed and operated.  If it is assumed that our geo-magnetic
investigations are in the right direction, the theory of operation of the
saucers becomes quite straight forward, with all observed features
explained qualitatively and quantitatively.

            I made discreet enquiries through the Canadian Embassy staff
in Washington who were able to obtain for me the following information:

a.  The matter is the most highly classified subject in the United States
   Government, rating higher even than the H-bomb.

b.  Flying saucers exist.

c.  Their modus operandi is unknown but concentrated effort is being made
   by a small group headed by Doctor Vannevar Bush.

d.  The entire matter is considered by the United States authorities to be
   of tremendous significance.

I was further informed that the United States authorities are
investigating along quite a nubmer of lines which might possibly be
related to the saucers such as mental phenomena and I gather that they are
not doing too well since they indicated that if Canada is doing anything
at all in geo-magnetics they would welcome a discussion with suitably
accredited Canadians.

            While I am not yet in a position to say that we have solved
even the first problems in geo-magnetic energy release, I feel that the
correlation between our basic theory and the available information on
saucers checks too closely to be more coincidence.  It is my honest
opinion that we are on the right track and are fairly close to at least
some of the answers.

            Mr. Wright, Defence Research Board liaison officer at the
Canadian Embassy in Washington, was extremely anxious for me to get in
touch with Doctor Solandt, Chairman of the Defence Research Board, to
discuss with him future investigations along the line geo-magnetic energy
release.

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Document #: 28
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-21-1986
 Subject: 1950 W.B.SMITH MEMO #3

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I do not feel that we have as yet sufficient data to place before Defence
Research Board which would enable a program to be initiated within that
organization, but I do feel that further research is necessary and I
would prefer to see it done within the frame work of our own organization
with, of course, full co-operation and exchange of information with other
interested bodies.

            I discussed this matter fully with Doctor Solandt, Chairman
of Defence Research Board, on November 20th and placed before him as much
information as I have been able to gather to date.  Doctor Solandt agreed
that work on geo-magnetic energy should go forward as rapidly as possible
and offered full co-operation of his Board in providing laboratory
facilities, acquisition of necessary items of equipment, and specialized
personnel for incidental work in the project.  I indicated to Doctor
Solandt that we would prefer to keep the project within the Department of
Transport for the time being until we have obtained sufficient information
to permit a complete assessment of the value of the work.

            It is therefore recommended that a PROJECT be set up within
the frame work of this Section to study this problem and that the work be
carried on a part time basis until such time as sufficient tangible
results can be seen to warrant more definitive action.  Cost of the
program in its initial stages are expected to be less than a few hundred
dollars and can be carried by our Radio Standards Lab appropriation.

            Attached hereto is a draft of terms of reference for such a
project which, if authorized, will enable us to proceed with this
research work within our own organization.


                                         (W.B. Smith)
                                    Senior Radio Engineer

WBS/cc


FOIA # 29


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Document #: 29
    From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 07-26-1986
 Subject: 1953 GEN.BURGESS 4602nd

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DECLASSIFIED PER EXECUTIVE ORDER 12356, Section 3.3, NND 841508
    By  WG Lewis           NARS, Date   Jan 29, 1985

                              CONFIDENTIAL


Brig. General W. M. Burgess                23 DEC 1953
Deputy for Intelligence
Air Defense Command
Ent Air Force Base
Colorado Springs, Colorado

Dear Woody:

    In your new function in the Unidentified Flying
Object Program, it is our understanding that your
4602nd people will do the "leg work" so to speak, and
furnish ATIC with its findings.  For those types that
cannot be identified by your Squadron, ATIC will handle
from an exploratory point of view.

    Many times the publicity connected with this
program has been somewhat embarrassing, in that we are
dealing with a subject, parts of which, are not ex-
plainable, and the public feeling is that we are holding
back information they should know about.

    Due to a policy letter General Samford wrote this
Directorate a while back, this office has assumed motor-
ship of releases to the public.  I would like to quote
the last sentence of General Samford's letter as it
pertains to publicity:

         "The Directorate of Intelligence, USAF,
         will resist consistently any idea that
         a releasable story can be developed
         about any intelligence activity, pro-
         cess, or experience."

    As you realize, there is a 10-20% area of unexplainable
objects, in this program.  Also, for this area, we believe
General Samford's statement above applies, in that it deals
in an intelligence process performed by ATIC.  Therefore,
we would like to offer you guidance in the publicity angle
as it pertains to your activity.

                         CONFIDENTIAL



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