SUBJECT: Roswell Testimony                                   FILE: UFO117

PART 13

5.9  Robert Smith
[Robert Smith was a member of the First Air Transport Unit,
which operated Douglas C-54 Skymaster four-engined cargo
planes out of the Roswell AAF.  He was interviewed in 1991.]
A lot of people began coming in all of a sudden because of
the official investigation.  Somebody said it was a plane
crash, but we heard from a man in Roswell that it was not a
plane crash, it was something else, a strange object.  There
was another indication that something serious was going on.
One night, when we were coming back to Roswell, a convoy of
trucks covered with canvas passed us.  When they got to the
[airfield] gate, they headed over to this hangar on the east
end, which was rather unusual.  The truck convoy had red
lights and sirens.
My involvement in the incident was to help load crates of
debris into the aircraft.  We all became aware of the event
when we went to the hangar on the east side of the ramp.
There were a lot of people in plain clothes all over the
place.  They were inspectors, but they were strangers on the
base.  When challenged, they replied they were here on
Project So-and-So, and flashed a card, which was different
from a military ID card.
We were taken to the hangar to load crates.  There was a lot
of farm dirt on the hangar floor.  We loaded [the crates] on
flatbeds and dollies.  Each crate had to be checked as to
width and height.  We had to know which crates went on which
plane.  We loaded crates on three [or] four C-54s.  We
weren't supposed to know their destination, but we were told
they were headed north.
All I saw was a little piece of material.  You could crumple
it up, let it come out.  You couldn't crease it.  One of our
people put it in his pocket.  The piece of debris I saw was
two to three inches square.  It was jagged.  When you
crumpled it up, it then laid back out.  And when it did, it
kind of crackled, making a sound like celophane.  It
crackled when it was let out.  There were no creases.
There were armed guards around during loading of our planes,
which was unusual at Roswell.  There was no way to get to
the ramp except through armed guards.  There were MPs on the
outskirts, and our personnel were between them and the
planes.
The largest [crate] was roughly twenty feet long, four to
five feet high, and four to five feet wide.  It took up an
entire plane.  It wasn't that heavy, but it was a large
volume.  The rest of the crates were two or three feet long
and two feet square or smaller.  The sergeant who had the
piece of material said [it was like] the material in the
crates.  The entire loading took at least six, perhaps eight
hours.  Lunch was brought to us, which was unusual.  The
crates were brought to us on flatbed dollies, which was also
unusual.
Officially, we were told it was a crashed plane, but crashed
planes usually were taken to the salvage yard, not flown
out.  I don't think it was an experimental plane, because
not too many people in that area were experimenting with
planes.  I'm convinced that what we loaded was a UFO that
got into mechanical problems.  Even with the most
intelligent people, things go wrong.
[The C-54 into which I helped load the single twenty-foot
crate] would have been Pappy Henderson's.  I remember seeing
T/Sgt Harbell Elzey, T/Sgt. Edward Bretherton, and S/Sgt.
William Fortner.
End of part 13


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