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       Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about Resources for Big Folks

This document contains information about resources for fat people
(other than on-line resources, organizations, publications, and clothing
-- these are covered in other FAQs). If you don't find what you're
looking for here, try one of the related FAQs (see question F1 for a complete list).

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Updated October 2000

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Contents

SECTION A:  FAQ about resources for big folks in Canada
a1)     Are there therapists or workshops offering information about
       body image, alternatives to dieting, etc.?
A2)     What about amusement parks for big folks?
a3)     Dating services for big folks?

SECTION B:  FAQ about resources for big folks in New Zealand
b1)     Where can I get clothes for large folks?

SECTION C:  FAQ about resources for big folks in the U.K.
c1)     What about recreation-type things for big folks?
c2)     Where can I get anti-diet cards?
c3)     What other services are available for large folks?

SECTION D:  FAQ about resources for big folks in the U.S.
d1)     What airlines treat fat people well?
d2)     What furniture works well for big folks?
d3)     What about recreation-type things for big folks?
d4)     Where can I get product X made for a large person?
d5)     Are there therapists or workshops offering information about
       body image, alternatives to dieting, etc.?
d6)     What legal remedies are there for discrimination on the basis
       of weight and medical mistreatment of fat people?
d7)     Are there modeling agencies for large folks?

SECTION E: Information about this FAQ
e1)     Are there other related FAQs?
e2)     Posting information
e3)     Contributors

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SECTION A:  FAQ about resources for big folks in Canada

a1)     Are there therapists or workshops offering information about
       body image, alternatives to dieting, etc.?

Beyond Dieting
       Rhonda Zabrodski, BSW, RSW
       c/0 101
       83 Deerpoint Rd SE
       Calgary, Alberta T2J 6W5
       Phone: (403) 271-1311 or (403) 265-4980
       Fax: (403) 225-1276
       Email: [email protected]
       Weekly "psycho-educational group" focusing on diet education,
       self-esteem and body image, and relationship with food. Not a
       diet or weight loss group. Pre-screening interviews.

Helena Spring
       Phone: (416) 861-0217
       Helena Spring, R.N., of Canada Wyde offers phone counseling for
       people of size.

Hugs International, Inc.
       Linda Omichinsky, RD
       Box 102 A, RR #3
       Portage La Prairie Manitoba R1N 3A3
       Phone: (204) 428-3432
       Workshops based on Omichinsky's book *You Count, Calories Don't*.

Stop Dieting, Inc
       Janet Polivy, Ph.D.
       Dept. of Psychiatry and Psychology
       University of Toronto
       Toronto, Ontario
       Work Phone: (416) 968-3942
       Fax: (905) 569-4326
       Anti-diet workshops based on Polivy's research as a scientist
       studying obesity, dieting, and health.

YOU*NIQUE
       620 Jarvis Street
       Suite 1023
       Toronto, Ontario M4Y 2R8
       Phone: (416) 964-0292 or (800) 663-9102 (toll free in Canada & U.S.)
       Email: [email protected] or [email protected]
       Infobot: [email protected] (email to get information packet)
       Self-acceptance and self-esteem seminars for large women explore
       ways in which fat women are marginalized and stigmatized and
       ways to combat the stigma and rebuild self-esteem.

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A2)     What about amusement parks for big folks?

CANADA'S WONDERLAND
A 265 lb woman had no problems. Another similar-sized woman complained
that the chest restraints were a bit too confining on the standing roller
coasters.

A3)     Dating services for big folks?
Sizeable Encounters Ltd.
       Elaine Shusterman
       1235 Bay Street, Toronto, Ontario
       Phone: (416) 657-2128 and (905) 731-1366
       Email: [email protected]
       Web: http://www.sizeableencounters.ca
       Dating service for above-average sized singles and their
       admirers. $325 for 6 months, $499 for 1 year. $100 up front,
       balance upon agreement to an introduction. Check for specials.
       Low risk. No blind dates.

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SECTION B:  FAQ about resources for big folks in New Zealand

B1)     Where can I get clothes for large folks?

Farmers
       Department store that carries large size men's clothing --
       some up to size 6XL.

Fashion Factory
       PO Box 7216
       Christchurch
       Phone: (03) 379-7323
       Fax: (03) 379-7383

House of Heather
       101 First Avenue
       Tauranga
       Phone: (07) 578-3376
       Fax: (07) 578-3360

Rubens Collection
       Petal Accents
       Tauranga Airport
       Tauranga
       Phone: (07) 575-9404
       Fax: (07) 575-9404

Raphaels Corporation Ltd
       PO Box 21635
       Henderson
       Auckland
       Phone: 0800 886 886
       Fax: 0800 887 887

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SECTION C:  FAQ about resources for big folks in the U.K.

c1)     What about recreation-type things for big folks?

Planet Big Girl
       PO Box 4110
       London  SE15 4LR
       Phone: 0171 639 0914 or 0171 635 7071
       Nightclub in London that caters to large folks and their
       admirers. They are in the basement of Equinox (in Leicester
       Square), and have events on the first Thursday of each month
       (and possibly other days as well).

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c2)     Where can I get anti-diet cards?

Diet Breakers
       Church Cottage
       Barford St Michael
       Banbury Oxon OX15 0UA
       Phone: 0181 693 7070
       Fax: 0181 693 7177
       Diet Breakers puts out a couple of anti-diet postcards
       illustrated by Jacky Fleming.  They have pictures of a woman
       engaged in anti-diet behavior (throwing out her diet book,
       seeing through the con of diet books), and statistics about
       dieting in the UK.

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D3)     What other services are available for large folks?

88 - Big in Pictures
       109 Wareham Road
       Corfe Mullen
       Wimbourne, Dorset BH21 3JZ
       Phone: 01860 356149
       Makeover photography for large ladies, by larger ladies; studio
       quality, home visits.

Angela Sandler AMIFC
       Phone: 0181 954 2113
       Appearance specialist -- personal & corporate image consultant.
       Offers "Large is lovely" workshops.

Chubby Companions
       21 Ulundi Street
       Radcliffe, Greater Manchester M26 3AN
       Phone: 0161 724 6791
       Dating service. Competitive rates, confidentiality. Lancashire
       area. Unlimited introductions.

Le Grande Weekend
       Marlene and Kyrsia
       38 Westbury Lodge Close
       Pinner, Middlesex, HA5 3FG
       Luxury weekends for large ladies.

Plump Partners Dating Agency
       Sandy Millington
       8 Sealand Avenue
       Holywell Clwyd CH8 7BU
       Phone: 01352 715909
       National Dating agency for those who are plump or prefer a plump
       partner.

Tops
       PO Box 533
       London SW6 2RQ
       Top-heavy ladies write about bust problems. Practical
       hints/advice and free newsletter.

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SECTION D:  FAQ about resources for big folks in the U.S.

d1)     What airlines treat fat people well?

This section is a compilation of comments made by various people on
s.s.f-a or a.s.b-f about various airlines. It's by no means exhaustive.
Check out the August 1995 issue of Consumer Reports, which compares
airline seat widths on various aircraft.

American Airlines/American Eagle
       Friendly to big folks. If you ask, they will try to place an
       empty seat beside you (by "blocking" the seat on the computer).
       You may need to ask ahead for a seat belt extender. Makes very
       large people purchase two seats.

Continental
       Friendly to big folks.

Delta
       Used to be generally thought friendly to big folks, but lately
       there have been complaints. One person who was large and
       disabled said she was refused a seat ("insurance requirements"
       were cited) after twice calling Delta to explain her special
       needs and being assured there would be no problem. Another
       person complained they were unresponsive to her need for a seat
       with an armrest that could be raised.

Markair
       Friendly to big folks. Polite. Flight attendants are helpful and
       ask if you need a seat belt extender.

Midwest Express
       They have four-across seating (rather than the standard
       five-across) on their DC-9s/MD-80s. The seats are all basically
       as wide as first class seats. Their major hub is in Milwaukee,
       and they fly cross-country.

Northwest Airlines
       Gracious about seat belt extenders.

Polynesian Airlines
       Very friendly to big folks. Go out of their way to make you
       comfortable, arrange for extra seats.

Reno Air
       Friendly to big folks. Good about seating you in a comfortable
       row.

Southwest Airlines
       Unfriendly to big folks.  Have been known to fly someone to a
       connecting city, and then decide that the person is too fat for
       a single seat, and then demand that the person buy another seat
       to continue their journey. Some people have had OK experiences
       with them.

TWA
       Friendly to big folks. Accommodating and discreet about
       extenders. Friendly counter staff.

United Airlines
       Friendly to big folks. But were in the news a while back for
       being obnoxious about weight limits for flight attendants.

US Air
       Friendly to big folks. NAAFA trained and very respectful and
       kind about size issues. Makes very large people purchase two
       seats. Discreet about seatbelt extenders, good about seating
       people next to empty seats, upgrading to first for a small fee.

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d2)     What furniture works well for big folks?

Everyone has different likes/dislikes in furniture. This section is
intended to provide information about what other big folks have found
works for them.

With regard to beds in particular, and furniture in general, you may
want to consider a bed (or box springs or whatnot) guaranteed for
several years, so that if it doesn't hold up, you can have it replaced
cheaply.

Action Lane furniture
       Tupelo, Mississippi
       Web site: http://www.action-lane.com
       Offers the ComfortKing recliner. It reclines to 80 inches and
       has a 24-inch seat. It's made of tempered steel and weighs 160
       pounds instead of the usual 110-120 pounds.

Alimed
       297 High St.
       Dedham, MA 02026-9135
       Phone: (800) 225-2610
       Fax: (617) 329-8392

       Ergonomic office furniture and equipment. Several office chairs
       designed for big folks up to 500 pounds. One model is called
       the Triton and costs around $450. Stools and chairs for labs or
       manufacturing. Lumbar support belts up to 75". Specifications
       are clear in the catalog. Catalog is $10 if you're calling on
       your own behalf, free if you're calling on behalf of an
       institution.

Big Wyoming Big Bed & Furniture Co.
       Casper Wy.
       Email: [email protected]

       Furniture and beds for tall and big people.

Biofit

       Phone: 800-597-0246, 419-832-1089
       Carries a plus-size folding chair and a plus-size cafeteria
       chair. You can purchase from the manufacturer, but it's
       sometimes cheaper to go through a local dealer. Biofit can give
       you the name(s) of dealers in your area.

Boyd Flotation Systems
       Maker of waterbeds. Their beds consist of several tubes filled
       with water, rather than one big bag of water.

Coleman
       Portable outdoor chair. "Cost me about $25.00, but it's never
       even hinted at collapsing under my 340 lbs, and it's got a WIDE
       seat, to boot. It's made so that it folds down and inward rather
       than up, so the strongest parts are the support, and it's got
       support connecting the legs for more strength. Yet it's made of
       aluminum and ripstop nylon so it's light, and folds down so well
       I can sling it over my shoulder and walk with it. I got mine at
       Fred Meyer, but you could probably find one at any discount-type
       store with a camping department (K-Mart, Target, etc.)."
       As of June 2000, the URL for the Colman captain's chair is

Craftmatic bed
       Bed that you can raise and lower (like in hospitals). Drive
       motor is guaranteed for three years, mattress and foundation is
       guaranteed for 25 years. Foundation is made with a steel
       undercarriage. Two twinsized beds can hook together at the
       foundation to make a kingsize with two sides that raise and
       lower independently. In Canada, one couple paid $2245 for one
       twin bed.

C.R. Laine
       (704) 328 1831
       Offers furniture (such as a recliner) made for big and tall
       folks.

Dania
       Danish furniture store chain. They make "huge and soft" couches
       that are large enough for two mid-size-ish big folks to lie on
       and spoon.

Domore-DO3
       2400 Sterling Avenue, Elkhart, IN 46516 * Phone: (219) 293-0621
       Fax: (219) 294-6176
       They carry executive chairs are at least 30" wide and certified
       to hold up to 500 lbs and a task chair that is about 33" wide
       and is certified to hold up to 850lbs. Chairs are structurally
       designed to accommodate large/heavy people.
       Website: http://www.domoredo3.com">

Englander
       They make somewhat expensive box springs and mattresses that
       hold up well.

Ethan Allen
       Offers the "chair and a half," a chair approximately 33 inches
       in width.

Herman Miller
       http://www.hermanmiller.com/
       offers the
       Aeron chair: high backed, wide bottomed, arms that swing out.
       Seat made of netting for air circulation. Many different
       adjustments, including one for the small of your back. Several
       sizes available. List price is $999, but you can get it for $699
       at sit4less.com. One person wrote: "Size c is fine for me at
       350+ lbs and 6'5"." Also offers Ergon Extra Chair, available at
       a lot of office supply stores, approximately $700 to $900.
       Designed for office workers up to 6', 7" in height who weigh up
       to 500 lbs. Larger seat and back, extra durability through more
       heavily enforced mechanics, and extra comfort in its deeper
       cushions. Adjustments: knee tilt, forward seat angle adjustment,
       and height adjustable back and arms. 12-year warranty.

Hickory Chair
       Offers furniture (such as a recliner or "chair and a half")
       suitable for big and tall folks.

Lane
       (888) FOR-LANE
       Offers furniture (such as a recliner) for big and tall folks.

La-Z-Boy
       (800) 625-3245
       Offers the Summit Series of large-size "chair-and-a-half" chairs
       and recliners.

Jerry McRoy
       Greenville, NC
       Phone: (919) 756-3161 (answering machine)
       Waterbed dealer who has access to metal bed frames with 9 legs,
       designed for king/queen softsided waterbeds, but also for use
       with a regular mattress.

Office Depot
       Offers a comfortable, sturdy office chair made by the Global
       Upholestry Co. Cost about $100.

Office World
       Web site: http://www.officeworld.com/
       They have excellent (although expensive) office chairs for large
       and supersized people (including the Ergon 3 by Herman Miller,
       see above).

Patioworld
       Web site: http://www.patioworld.com
       One person reports they can make patio/outdoor furniture that
       can support high weights and make furniture to order.

Quik Lok
       Not-too-unwieldy seat intended to be a portable stool for
       electronic keyboardists. With very heavy frames, a padded seat,
       and collapsible construction. You can get them at many music
       stores. One place to see them online is:
       http://www.sweetwater.com/Quicklock/QuickLock_09.html

QVC
       Offers What-A-Beach Chair, rated to 400 lbs., $32.00. Low to the
       ground. They also have What-A-Chair, which goes to 500 lbs. Item
       # F24925. Both of these fold up and are very sturdy.

Sealy Posturepedic
       Their grade 3 or 4 mattresses seem to work well for large folks.
       Some of their box springs have steel beams instead of wood.
       Their higher end products are guaranteed for a long time, so you
       can get them replaced if they don't live up to what they should.
       One 360 pound person bought a Sealy Posturepedic that broke
       three weeks after he got it. Possibly a bad box-spring. They are
       replacing the mattress.

Sears
       They make mostly indestructible bed frames with 6 legs. Metal
       frames may be sturdier than wooden frames, but it probably
       depends on the construction of the frame. They also make good
       mattresses.

Sleepworks
       http://www.sleepworks.com
       offers a mattress that combines all natural foam (latex) with a
       coil system and can be constructed to accommodate two people
       with different needs.

Smith Industries ~ Natural Tree Furniture
       Web site http://www.smithindustries.com
       Annie and Ray Smith run this company. Annie wrote to me to point
       out: "We have quite a few Large HumanBeans, friends and
       customers, we cater to in the furniture department.  All we'd
       need to know is specifications." They make environmentally
       responsible furniture out of reclaimed, naturally felled trees
       and branches, kiln dried using mortise and tenon joinery
       to guarantee quality and integrity. Custom orders welcomed.

Syroco
       They make an oversize lawn/lounge chair that was comfy for one
       400-pound person.

Steelcase
       They offer the Steelcase Criterion Plus. "The seat is 26"
       across, and my 460 lb body with 72" hips fits in it perfectly.
       I've been using it for almost 3 years now, and it's holding up
       well. It cost somewhere between $800-$1000."

       Carries big and tall task and executive chairs for people
       between 300 and 500 lbs.

This End Up
       PO Box 2020
       Richmond, VA 23216-2020
       Phone: (800) 627-5161

       Mall retail chain and mail order catalog. They make very sturdy
       furniture (including beds and couches).

Walmart
       Chain store offers sturdy, inexpensive double camping chairs
       called "A Chair and a Half". They fold up like a regular lawn
       chair and have a drink holder. They cost about $30 and support
       at least 350 pounds.

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d3)     What about recreation-type things for big folks?

HEALTH CLUBS

Women of Substance Health Spa is a newly opened health club for women of
all sizes, located in Redwood City, CA. They have no scales and do not
promote measurement as a method of determining health or fitness. 363 C
Main Street, Redwood City. Phone: (415) 369-6626. Fat-friendly workout
equipment and exercise classes, pool, jacuzzi, massage.

NIGHTCLUBS
In New York City, there are two clubs that cater to large folks.
Large Encounters (212-836-9000 or 516-763-6100) runs Friday night dance
parties about three times a month at various locations in Manhattan,
Queens, and Long Island.
Goddesses (718-456-9119) runs dance parties every other Saturday at a
Manhattan club called Cafe 44.

The Chunkendale dancers are large guys who parody the Chippendales
dancers. Last I heard, Chippendales was suing for trademark
infringement.

CRUISES

Club 24 (apparently affiliated with Dimensions magazine) sponsers
cruises for large women and their male partners. You can reach them at
HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected].

NUDIST AREAS

Black's Beach in San Diego, CA
       Many "beautiful people" hang out here, but large folks are not
       harassed or snickered at or even ignored. Apparently, the north
       and south ends of the beach tend to have the "beautiful people"
       (who may or may not remove their clothes), while the middle of
       the beach has many folks of varying body types (who usually
       remove their clothes). During the week, there are less likely to
       be gawkers.

Elysian Fields in Topanga Canyon, CA
       This nudist resort has a number of large nudists, and large
       folks are not looked at askance.

San Onofre Beach, just south of the San Diego/Orange County line
       I-5 to Basilone Road, south into the State Park. 3 miles south
       of the main gate there is a trail down to the beach. Go south on
       the beach past the last lifeguard station. Nudity officially not
       allowed, but they only enforce it if they have a complaint. "I
       am 5'10" and 265 lbs and I have _never_ felt "out of place" when
       visiting there!"


Pirate's Cove -- north of Malibu, CA, just south of Zuma Beach
       Nude sunbathing and swimming that is big-folk friendly.

Sandy Hook in New Jersey
       Gunnison Beach is clothing optional and very fat friendly.
       Diverse body types. Queer folks hang out on the south end of the
       beach.

THEME PARKS

Consensus here is that theme parks should place samples of the cars they
use for the rides where you queue up for the rides. Then anyone who
wasn't sure they would fit in the car could sit in the sample car, and
see if it would work. Alas, theme parks do not do this yet. (So suggest
it to them when you go to visit.)

In the meantime, here's what some big folks found when they visited
various theme parks. You're probably not shaped exactly the same as the
people whose opinions are gathered here. And, depending on how your
weight is distributed and how the ride is set up, you may fit on rides
that people who weigh less than you don't fit on. So don't take any of
this as gospel.

Adventure World in suburban Washington DC (Largo, Maryland.)
       A ride called the Rainbow featured slides of different colors
       and heights. "About 2/3 of the way up the narrow stair, a sign
       was posted with a weight limit [...]. By the time one is in a
       position to see the sign, one has already climbed a large part
       of the way up, and the people in line behind one have also
       acsended, blocking the stairway. There is no escape stair.[...]
       I didn't want to inconvenience all the people in line behind me
       -- and I wanted to ride the big slide. So I said to my husband
       "I'm sure it will be fine" and continued up. There had to be
       some leeway in the weight limit, right? I mean, lots of men
       don't evem know their weight... Anyway, you'll be happy to hear
       that the slide didn't break under my weight - no one was injured
       or even embarrassed. BUT my weight meant that I got quite a
       great deal of MOMENTUM going on the way down the slide.[...] It
       would have been much better, more responsible policy to post the
       weight restrictions at the entrance to the ride itself. The park
       has been renovated and expanded since our visit - the rainbow
       slide may not even be there any more. But I did learn that
       weight limits are posted for a reason."

Boardwalk in Santa Cruz, CA
       One person was asked to get off a roller coaster in front of
       everybody because the bar would not go down. Another person
       (5'3, and around 300 lbs) tried to ride the Big Dipper
       rollercoaster, was asked to get off the ride, and was refused a
       refund.

Busch Gardens in Williamsburg, VA
       Of the three coasters, Big Bad Wolf is probably the roomiest,
       followed by the Loch Ness Monster, and then the Drachen Fire.
       The Drachen Fire is not very friendly to people over 5'6" tall.
       The Alpengeist has a maximum girth of 48", the Apollo's Chariot
       has a maximum girth of 52". They have a sample car sitting at
       the entrance of the Alpengeist so that you can see if you will
       fit before you get into line. The operators are helpful and do
       not rush you.

Cedar Point amusement park in OH
       People over 6'5" or having over a 50 inch waist or a very large
       bust or chest may have problems with the Raptor. People with
       over a 50 inch waist may have problems with the Mean Streak, the
       Corkscrew, and the Magnum 200XL. People with over a 60 inch
       waist may have problems with the Iron Dragon, the Blue Streak,
       and the Gemini. All the water rides and standard rides should
       accommodate folks with less than a 60" waist.

Disneyworld in FL
       A size 28-30W woman fit on all the rides without any problem.
       One 28-30W person found the inner tube rides (other than the
       Lazy River) a bit difficult -- the inner tube kept sinking down
       into the water, and she found herself scraping the bottom a lot
       -- she still found it fun. They have scuba jackets for the Shark
       Reef in sizes up to 28-30W. Star Tours and Body Wars were a
       little snug. Clothes in gift shops go up to size 4X.
       For much more about Walt Disney World theme parks, see below.

Disneyland in CA

       300+, 410lb, 310lb, and 3X people fit through all the turnstiles
       and fit on every single ride without problems. One woman
       complained that the rocket jets were uncomfortable and some of
       the gates were smallish, and recommended not sitting in the
       front car of Space Mountain. Disney did not complain that she
       needed to take a whole seat meant for two. Many of the rides
       are accessible for much larger folks as well (i.e., Pirates of
       the Caribbean, Splash Mount, Jungle Boat, and Matterhorn). Star
       Tours may not be entirely comfortable; it has theater-type
       seats. One person needed a seatbelt extender for Star Tours and
       they provided it without a fuss. And on Main St., the Clothier
       store, the Disney Emporium, and Tomorrowland all have large-size
       clothing (some up to 8X). The seats in MGM Studios were somewhat
       uncomfortable for one person. One person couldn't fit through
       the turnstiles and ended up lifting himself over them.
       Disneyland is very accommodating to people with physical
       limitations and will assist people in getting on and off the
       rides. They have wheelchairs available for a small deposit.

       For more about Walt Disney theme parks, see below.

Great America in Santa Clara, CA
       One woman didn't fit on one of the rides, and they gave her and
       her partner passes to go to the head of the line on any other
       ride (to make up for the fact that she waited all that time for
       the first ride). A 5'4" 220-lb size 18-24 woman fit on all the rides,
       but just barely on the wooden rollercoaster. A 5'7" 340 lb.
       person could not fit on anything, except one rollercoaster (not
       the wooden one, presumably).

Kennywood Park in Pittsburgh, PA.
       One reader was humiliated by ride staff.

King's Island in Cincinatti, OH
       A size 20W-22W woman visited here and found all of the coasters
       comfortable. The roomiest was Top Gun, and one coaster was a
       little snug. The Flight Commander ride had a sign saying that
       "especially large people" might not be able to ride, but our
       intrepid tester had no problems. On the other hand, another
       woman (size 18W or so) couldn't fit on several of the rides. A
       400+ pound man was comfortable in the Skylab and short log flume
       water rides.

Knott's Berry Farm
       A supersized woman had no problem on any of the rides she went
       on.

       Another person warns that many of the rides, with the exception
       of the log flume and the California River Country Raft Ride, are
       not size friendly, including the three major roller coasters.
       One of the roller coasters (Montezuma's Revenge?) may be bad for
       people with back or neck problems. ("starts on a short section
       of track, catapults you forward, through a loop to a near
       vertical incline at which you fall and reverse the process
       passing through the start station and going to another near
       vertical incline and you then fall back forward and stop in the
       station") The fried chicken dinner at the restaurant is
       recommended.

Lagoon in Farmington, UT
       One person had a bad experience with a roller coaster -- the bar
       went down but the person was pinned very uncomfortably and had a
       hard time getting the bar to release.

Paramounts Carowinds
       A size 28W-30W woman had problems fitting in the safety devices
       of some rides, but always fit and was able to ride without too
       much discomfort.

Six Flags in Georgia
       A size 28W-30W woman had problems fitting in the safety devices
       of some rides, but always fit and was able to ride without too
       much discomfort.

Six Flags Magic Mountain
       Two people reported bad experiences. One concerned the roller
       coaster. Nothing was posted about a size limit, but the safety
       bar would not lock and the person was asked to leave the ride.
       One person commented that the amusement park is very hilly.

       One 300 lb. person fit onto the Batman and Superman rides.

Six Flags Over Texas
       Two mid-sized people had trouble getting into the Texas Giant ride.
       However, one person who is approximately 280 lbs and 58" girth
       did not have a problem here except for "occasionally a tight
       fit."

Wild Bills at Stateline, NV
       Roller coaster is reported to be a very tight fit.

Water theme parks
       Large folks tend to do well at water theme parks. The more
       surface area you have, the better you can dam water up behind
       you, the faster you can go. And often there are people with a
       wide range of body types at water theme parks.

WALT DISNEY WORLD
One poster reported that at 6'7" and 400 lbs, height was more of a
problem than weight and recommended the second row of most rides as
having more leg room. "On the water rides be sure to seat in the middle
(left and right), we had a boat full of couples all seating on one side,
and started to take on water."

The following description of Disney parks is contributed by
[email protected] (note: this email address no longer works):

Because of the questions regarding rides at Walt Disney World, I called
and spoke with a great woman who helped me go through each of the parks
and "size up" (so to speak!) the rides at all three Disney Parks. Below
is the compilation of what I can offer as far as info re: descriptions
of rides and shows goes.  Know, too,that *your* judgement is the
ultimate guide. I merely offer suggestions.

       Legend:
       ts  = theatre seats
       bs  = bench seats
       lb  = low bars (lower deeply into lap)
       hb  = high bars (do not lower into lap, or lower slightly)
       ss  = small space
       w   = walking show, self paced (wheelchairs allowed)
       s   = standing show (wheelchairs allowed)
       nws = no wheelchair space, but handicapped accessible

All shows have handicapped access and all ts and bs locations (except
those designated "nws"... no wheelchair spaces) have wheelchair spaces,
never having to leave the wheelchair, and a place for companion as well.
More info on wheelchairs below.

MAGIC KINGDOM
Ride                            Seat type     Description
==================================================================
TOMORROWLAND
Astro Orbiter                   lb/ts         jerky simulator ride
Space Mountain                  lb/ss         roller coaster
Wedway People Mover             hb/bs/nws     gentle sit down ride
Delta DreamFlight               hb            gentle sit down ride
Time Keeper                     s             show/movie?
Carousel of Progress            ts            show

FANTASYLAND
Grand Prix Raceway              bs/ss         gentle ride
Dumbo Flying Elephants          lb/ss         kids' ride
Carousel Horses                 bs/horses     gentle ride
It's a Small World              bs/nws        gentle ride
Tea Cups                        bs(round)     twirly ride
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride            bs/hb         ride
Legend of Lion King             ts            show
Skyway                          700 lb limit  sky ride

TOWN SQUARE
Hall of Presidents              ts            show (standing pre-show)
Haunted Mansion                 bs/hb/nws     gentle ride (standing pre-show)
Mike Fink Keel Boats            bs            gentle ride
Tom Sawyers Island              w             (short standing barge ride)

FRONTIERLAND
Splash Mountain                 lb/ss         roller coaster
Big Thunder Mountain            lb/ss         roller coaster
Country Bear Jamboree           bs            show
Railroad Ride                   bs            gentle sit down ride
Jungle Cruise                   bs            gentle boat ride

ADVENTURELAND
Pirates of the Carribean        bs/nws        boat ride-8 foot "waterfall"
Swiss Family Treehouse          w             walking uphill/downhill
Enchanted Tiki Room             bs            show (standing pre-show)

MAIN STREET
Main Street Cinema              ts            movie
===================================================================

EPCOT CENTER
Ride                            Seat type     Description
===================================================================
FUTURE WORLD
Spaceship Earth                 hb            gentle ride
The Living Seas                 bs/w          short ride
The Land                        bs/nws        gentle boat ride
Journey to Imagination          lb/w          several activities
Universe of Energy              bs            gentle boat-like ride
Wonders of Life                 lb/ss         ride
Cranium Command                 bs            show
Making of Me                    bs            movie
Body Wars                       lb/ts         jerky flight simulator

WORLD SHOWCASE
Mexico                          hb/bs/nws     gentle boat ride
China                           s             CircleVision movie
Norway                          lb            faster boat ride
                                             2 drops down "waterfalls"
Morocco (no rides)
Germany (no rides)
Italy (no rides)
Japan (no rides)
United States                   ts            show (arrive early for seating)
France                          s             CircleVision movie
Canada                          s             CircleVision movie
===================================================================

MGM
Ride                            Seat type     Description
===================================================================
Tower of Terror                 bs/hb         13 story drop
Muppet Show                     ts            show
Beauty and the Beast            bs            show
Little Mermaid                  ts            show
Magic of Disney Animation       w             demonstrations
Backstage Tour                  tram ride/bs  demonstrations
Great Movie Rides               bs            show
Hunchback of Notre Dame         bs            show
Star Tours                      lb/ts         jerky flight simulator
Monster Sound Show              ts            show
Indiana Jones Spectacular       bs            show
=========================================================

There is ample wheelchair parking outside each park. In MGM you need to
show a wheelchair sticker, otherwise it is the honor system. Trams,
monorails, and boats are completely accessible, their being used to get
you from the parking area to the parks.

Wheelchairs, both standard and electric, can be rented each day, but
must stay in the park they were rented in, even with multi-park passes.
The wheelchair rental areas are directly inside each parks' gates (Magic
Kingdom's is towards the middle, EPCOT's is to the far left, and MGM's
is also to the far left). Standard wheelchairs are $6 a day, no deposit.
The electric ones are $30 a day and $20 refundable deposit when you
return the chair. (the electric ones are *well* worth the money!
Especially in EPCOT where there are hills in several places.) A new
policy! Wheelchairs are *first come, first served"! They no longer take
reservations. We always rent a stroller as well for the walking person
to push, allowing us to dump all the purses, bags, etc. in. First come,
first served, they are $6 a day, with $1 refund when you return it.

One never needs to go through turnstiles... from the front entrance to
any ride. There are gates that swing open, simply ask the attendant (or
make yourself at home and open it yourself, like I do!).

All types of modified diets are honored at Walt Disney World... in parks
(see below), restaurants, and hotels... from Kosher, vegan, and low-fat
to diabetic, ovo-lacto vegetarian, and kids' meals.

In the Magic Kingdom, there is a vegetarian fast food restaurant in
Tomorrowland. The fast food places are eat what is on the menu, but sit
down places (with backstage chefs) can cook anything to match your
dietary needs... simply ask your server.

In EPCOT, there are wonderful places to eat. Canada has a cafeteria. The
Living Seas has the most expensive food, but most spectacular dining
room, set under the aquarium, dinner swimming all around as you eat!
Most restaurants have several choices of meals that fit in with varying
diet plans. If not, ask the server for what you need.

In MGM, there are fast food and dining rooms, including a cafeteria
(that is eat what is there). The dining rooms can cater to your needs.

The majority of wheelchairs at the Disney parks are the regular sized,
but they *do* have several of the larger sized ones. The electric
wheelchairs have arms that rise on one side.

Also, the chairs in every restaurant that I can think of have no arms. I
am sure if there are arms on chairs, there are also chairs without arms
handy.

The restrooms all have handicapped stalls, of course... and I have been
able to fit in most stalls at 330 pounds.

If you ever have a problem when gently asking for your needs, ask to
speak to a supervisor, and they can help... either by getting you what
you need, or directing you to a place where your needs can be met.

For further questions you can call Walt Disney World at 407-824-4321.

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d4)     Where can I get product X made for a large person?

Air Physics Corp
       Phoenix, AZ
       Phone: (800) 553-0353
       Chairs that assist people in standing up. One design is for
       large people. It is 27" wide, can lift over 800 lbs, and costs
       $895. They sell another chair rated up to 400 lbs, and a lift
       seat that can be strapped to a regular chair. If a doctor
       prescribes a lift chair for you, your health insurance may pay
       part of the cost. They also sell the large chairs alone without
       the lift mechanism.

American Health Supplies Inc.
       Web site: http://www.ahsinc.com/pharmmed.htm
       Vast catalog of medical equipment and home health aids.
       Most items have pictures, describe size and weight limits.

Amplestuff
       PO Box 116
       Bearsville, NY 12409
       Phone: (914) 679-3316
       Fax: (914) 679-1206
       Email: [email protected]
       Amplestuff doesn't have a web site but you can order a catalog
       through http://www.oooobabybaby.com
       Catalog with over 100 items for plus- and supersize woman and
       men such as: large clothes hangers, airline seatbelt extenders,
       books/videos, fanny packs, health/hygiene products, wider socks,
       and the consumer newsletter Ample Shopper.

Apria (formerly Homedco)
       Medical equipment company reported by a fat person with sleep
       apnea to be good to work with.

Beam balance scales and counterweights
       http://www.bodytrends.com/det.htm
       http://www.empirescale.com/empire/model80.htm
       http://www.sperlescales.com/detecto_clinical_medical_scale.htm

Brace Center
       2285 N.W. Loop
       Stephenville TX 76401
       (254) 965-9092
       1600 Central Drive
       Bedford, Texas   76022
       Phone 877-272-2348
       Fax (254)-965-9644
       Web http://www.kneesupport.com
       Large selection of all sizes. Easy to work with via phone,
       online or retail locations.

CJ's International
       4175 Pepperwood Trail
       Minnetonka, MN 55305-4915
       Phone: (800) 538-8394
       Austrian crystal tennis bracelets for people with large wrists,
       $2.50 per inch plus shipping and handling.

ConvaQuip Health Care Products
       P.O. Box 3417
       Abilene, Texas 79604
       Phone: (800) 637-8436, (915) 677-4177
       Fax: (915) 677-7217
       Email: mailto:[email protected]
       Web site: http://www.convaquip.com/
       Heavy-duty convalescent aids and medical equipment -- walkers,
       canes, crutches, commodes, shower and bath chairs.

Domestications
       PO Box 40
       Hanover, PA 17333-0040
       Inexpensive large bath sheets (36" x 66").

Easy Rider Pedal Extensions
       PO Box 251677
       Glendale, CA 91225-1677
       Phone: 818-247-9246
       FAX: 818-247-3329
       Prices range between $60 and $75 per extender. They can be
       installed using a screwdriver and socket wrench. They can be
       used on most vehicles (including temporarily on rental cars).

Electric Mobility
       Phone: 800-MOBILITY
       Web site: http://www.electricmobility.com
       Offers a motorized scooter, Rascal, that's rated to 450 lbs. It
       is modular so repairs are not expensive. It can be taken apart
       and put in the trunk of a car. An extra-wide (22") seat is
       available. The armrests flip up, or you can remove the entire
       armrest assembly. Cost is around $3500, including the extra-wide
       chair. Also offers motoroized scooter models called Chauffeur
       with weight limits of 450-600, depending on the model. One
       person complained the 600-pound model brok frequently. Others
       say the Chauffer is sturdier than the Rascal. One person reports
       that her model has a longer base (good for long legs) and "The
       weight limit is 450, but the company told me that it would be
       fine of you were a bit over that." The Chauffeur MX model is
       rated for 450 lbs and the cost is about $2,300, including an
       extra-width foot plate. It's a 3 wheeler, very stable. The
       tiller (steering column) is adjustable to accommodate big
       bellies. Electric Mobility doesn't rent scooters and don't
       generally have any heavy duty scooters available for sale used.

Enduro
       Conneticut
       Makes customized wheelchairs. One person has one with a weight
       capacity of 500 lbs. and a 20" seat.

Everest & Jennings
       Offers wheelchairs for people weighing up to 400 pounds. Various
       sites on the web; search on "Everest Jennings" in Yahoo or
       Google.

Greedy Dyke Productions
       2400 Rio Grande NW, #1-110
       Albuquerque, NM  87104
       Phone: (505) 345-8739
       Dildo harnesses that fit folks with large legs (one size for
       hips under 55" and one size for hips over 55").

King Size
       PO Box 9115
       Hingham, MA  02043
       Phone: (800) 846-1600
       Large-size rain gear that is more or less unisex. Extra-large
       umbrellas, ties, and fanny packs.

Lark
       Has a motorized wheelchair/scooter rated to 450. One person
       wrote "But the 300lb one I tested had so much punch I considered
       it, even though I am 350." The prices range $3500-$5000. The
       lifts for the car add another $2000.

Laughing Sisters
       4514 Manitou Way
       San Diego, CA  92117
       Phone: (619) 272-1976
       They make plastic hangers 19" wide. (Regular hangers are 14"
       wide.) Clothes won't slide off these hangers and won't get funny
       lumps on the shoulder seams from hangers too narrow to reach the
       shoulders.

Masterlink Marketing
       Fax: (716) 675-1610
       They make an adjuster for auto seatbelts called Master Design.
       You clip it to the seatbelt by the latch, and it makes the
       shoulder belt sit lower.

Northwest Kayaks Inc.
       http://www.nwkayaks.com
       Offers a kayak called a Cadence, which has a load capacity of
       455 lbs and has an opening made for larger people.

Mour To Dri
       Reported out of business Mar01

Optiway Technology, Inc.
       500 Norfinch Dr.,
       Downsview, Ontario, Canada M3N 1Y4
       Phone: 800-514-7061
       Fax: (416)739-6622
       Offers Optiway/Fortress 2001 LX4 Scooter. Can be modified both
       for weight and to make it more powerful on hills. The 4 wheels
       are much more stable (less likely to fall over) than the 3
       wheels, which are a bit easier to maneuver.

Palmer Industries
       http://www.palmerind.com/index.htm
       Makes an electric vehicle capable of climbing hills and
       traversing rough terrain, more rugged than scooters. Cost
       $3000-$5000. For transporting, they suggest a trailer, cost
       about $500 including installation.

PDG Inc.
       Phil Mundy, Nancy Balcom
       9165 Shaughnessy Street
       Vancouver, B.C., Canada, V6P 6R9
       Phone: 604-323-9220
       Fax: 604-323-9097
       E-mail: [email protected]
       PDG Inc. is a manufacturer of wheelchairs for big and supersize
       people. They make wheelchairs in sizes up to and exceeding 30".
       U.S. distributor is: MedBloc, 700 Ensminger Road - Unit 112,
       Tonawanda, N.Y., 14150, USA, Ph: 1-888-433-6818, Fax: 1-888-433-6834
       In Canada: Graham-Field Canada, 111 Snidercroft Road, Concord,
       Ontario, L4K 2J8, Ph: (905) 669-2381 / 1 800 387-9113, Fax:
       (905) 660-7875 / 1 800 267-0502.
       One can also contact PDG directly.

Royal Resources
       Vendredi Enterprises
       PO Box 220
       Camas Valley, OR  97416
       Phone: (503) 445-2330
       Information and source directory for large folks: Clothing,
       shoes, books, jewelry, magazines, furniture, sewing supplies,
       health products, sunglasses, umbrellas, dating services,
       insurance, cars, airlines, cruises, etc. Cost is $29.95.

Shower Anywhere
       http://www.shower-anywhere.com
       Portable shower stalls and tanks. Can be modified to accommodate
       people of size.

SIZEWise Rentals
       Phone 800-814-9389
       Email: [email protected]
       Web: http://www.sizewiserentals.com
       Rent medical equipment designed for large people. Rent to care
       facilities, rehab, et al. 43 locations in the U.S. Carry
       wheelchairs up to 37", shower/commode chairs to 30", power
       recliners, walkers, beds, air mattresses, trapezes, etc.
       Capacity on mobility items is 750lbs, beds and air mattresses to
       1000lb. Affiliated with Wheelchairs of Kansas (listed below).

Therapy Supplies
       Toronto
       416-752-8885
       Ask to speak with Peter Tippett. Please mention Helena Spring of
       Canada WYDE as reference.
       Medical supply house. One product they sell is a solid walker
       with a wide seat, made by Gaper Products in Toronto.

Toledo
       They custom-make scales as large or as small as you want them.

Totes
       Big, sturdy umbrella called "City Slicker" is large enough to
       keep almost anyone dry.

21st Century Scientific
       Makes power wheelchairs rated up to 1000 pounds.

Wheelchairs of Kansas
       204 W. 2nd, Ellis, KS, USA 67637
       Telephone 1-800-537-6454
       FAX 1-800-337-2447
       Email [email protected]
       Web http://www.wheelchairsofkansas.com
       Manufacture and sell medical equipment designed for large
       people, including wheelchairs, beds, lifts, and
       bath aides. Makes power wheelchairs up to 750 pounds

Worldesigns Incorporated
       PO Box 355
       New York City, NY  10024
       Fanny packs in sizes up to 2X (59"-92").

XL Collection Plus
       Box 20511
       Rochester, NY  14602
       $12.95
       Fashion resource guide.

Wheelchairs of Kansas
       Phone: (800) 537-6454
       Free catalog.
       They rent wheelchairs up to 30" wide and will ship them within a
       few days. They also sell custom-made wheelchairs of any width.

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d5)     Are there therapists or workshops offering information about
       body image, alternatives to dieting, etc.?

Abundia
       Sally Strosahl
       PO Box 252
       Downers Grove IL  60515
       Phone: (630) 897-9796
       Body-size acceptance for abundant women -- workshops,
       presentations, classes and retreats. Works with health-care
       professionals who wish to become more size-informed. Cheri
       Erdman, a member, wrote her doctoral thesis on the process of
       body-size acceptance in women.

Amity Associates
       Susan Kano
       18 Holiday Road
       Wayland MA  01778
       Work Phone: (508) 358-4811
       Home Phone: (508) 358-9611
       Offers workshops based on Kano's book *Making Peace with Food*.

Lucia Kim August, MA, MFCC
       2550 Peralta Blvd. #7
       Fremont, CA  94536
       Phone: (510) 792-5588
       Email: [email protected]
       Anti-dieting, demand feeding, psycho-educational approach based
       on the books *Overcoming Overeating* and *When Women Stop
       Hating Their Bodies* by Jane Hirschmann and Carol Munter. August
       is an active member of The Women's Campaign to End Body Hatred
       and Dieting. Individual therapy sessions available. Groups being
       organized. Dance/movement therapy for large women.

Lizbeth Binks, Ph.D.
       Phone: (410) 532-3080
       Size acceptance therapy. Baltimore, MD.

Kelly Bliss, M.Ed.
       Phone: 610-394-2547
       Email: [email protected]
       Web site: www.kellybliss.com
       Provides size-accepting counseling and a nationwide video
       classes for people barely large to very large. Classes
       communicate on-line and through video: Fitness Plus (for people
       who can walk) and SuperFit (for people with mobility problems).

Body Trust
       Dayle Hayes
       2110 Overland Ave., Ste. 120
       Billings MT  59102
       Work Phone: (800) 321-9499
       Home Phone: (406) 656-9417
       Fax: (406) 656-0124
       Email: [email protected]
       Workshops and videos promoting a program called Body Trust:
       Undieting Your Way to Health and Happiness. Hayes is a member of
       the American Dietetic Association Board of Directors.

Breaking Free
       Geneen Roth
       PO Box 2852
       Santa Cruz CA  95063
       Offers workshops based on her books *Breaking Free From
       Compulsive Eating*, *Feeding The Hungry Heart*, and others.

Changing Perspectives
       Bonnie O'Brien Johnson
       PO Box 778
       Point Reyes CA  94956
       Work Phone: (415) 663-1320
       Offers workshops on weight, body image, and health.

Nomi Dekel, MFCC
       Phone: (415) 457-3468
       Food obsession and body image groups and workshops. San
       Francisco Bay Area.

Diet/Weight Liberation
       Terry Nicholetti Garrison
       Anabel Taylor Hall, Cornell Univ
       Ithaca NY  14853
       Work Phone: (607) 257-0563
       Local *Fed Up* groups. Working to establish a pilot program of
       peer education for high-school girls to teach size
       size-acceptance workshops to their peers.

Grady, MFCC
       Phone: (310) 804-2293
       Body image. Individual and group therapy.

GUIDE
       Susan Villari, MPH
       Student U. Penn. Health Services
       Box 745 HUP
       Philadelphia PA  19104-4283
       Work Phone: (215) 573-3525
       GUIDE stands for *Guidance For Image, Dieting, and Eating*.
       Villari offers workshops for students at U. Penn.

Ellyn Herb, Ph.D.
       Phone: (408) 978-5125
       Size acceptance therapy/support group. San Jose, CA

Marcia Germaine Hutchinson, Ed.D.
       88 W Goulding St
       Sherbourn MA  01770
       Work Phone: (508) 653-3665
       Home Phone: (508) 653-3665
       Fax: (508) 653-3665
       Email:  [email protected]
       Offers workshops on issues around size and body image and
       *Body-Mind* audiotapes. Hutchinson is author of the book
       *Transforming Body Image*.

Jassy Kowalski
       Phone: (617) 776-6460
       Body image counseling groups for women over 200 pounds. Boston
       area.

Image Power for Women of Size
       Web site: http://members.tripod.com/~ImageConsultant/index.html
       Image consultant service by a plus-size woman, who also is
       organizing an empowerment conference/expo for women of size.

Innerworks/Food For Thought
       Melissa Popp
       2321 E Avenue H #2103
       Grand Prairie TX  75050
       Work Phone: (214) 606-1160
       Offers eating/body image support group.

Jewish Family Services Of Fort Worth
       Michele Adler, LMSW
       6801 Dan Danciger Rd
       Fort Worth TX  76133
       Work Phone: (817) 294-2660
       Fax: (817) 292-3214
       Offers alternatives to dieting workshops.

Largely Positive, Inc.
       Carol A. Johnson, MA, President
       PO Box 17223
       Glendale WI  53217
       Johnson facilitates a support group at an area hospital to help
       build self-esteem, promote size-acceptance, and discourage
       dieting in favor of healthy, low-fat eating and regular
       exercise. Johnson is the author of *Self-Esteem Comes in All
       Sizes*.

Leslea Newman
       PO Box 815
       Northampton, MA  01061
       Work Phone: (413) 584-3865
       Fax: (413) 584-1099
       Newman presents workshops on eating disorders, dieting, and
       size-acceptance issues. She has written several books on these
       subjects.

OASIS XXXL Support
       Joellen Lapidus
       Phone: (310) 398-7515
       Therapy and support group for large men and women. West Los Angeles.

Overcoming Overeating, Chicago Center
       Judith Matz, LCSW and Carol Coven Grannick
       PO Box 48
       Deerfield IL  60015
       Phone: (708) 853-1200
       Offers workshops in Chicago-area based on the *Overcoming
       Overeating* approach.

Overcoming Overeating, National Center
       Jane Hirschmann, MSW and Carol Munter, CEDS
       315 West 86th. Street, Suite 17B
       New York NY  10024-3180
       Work Phone: (212) 875-0442
       Fax: (212) 874-6596 or (212) 582-0076
       Email: [email protected] or [email protected]
       Offers workshops based on the *Overcoming Overeating* approach,
       which advocates demand feeding without dieting and an end to
       body hatred.

Deborah Scott
       Phone: (312) 472-7646
       Individual, group, couples therapy for women of all sizes.
       Chicago area.

Judith Sikes
       504 W. 17th
       Austin, TX  78701
       Phone: (512) 476-0636

Joan Spiegel, Ph.D.
       Phone: (510) 548-8709, (408) 732-1626
       Individual therapy, eating disorders, body acceptance. San
       Francisco Bay Area.

Weight Release Services
       Barbara Altman Bruno, Ph.D.
       45 Munson Road
       Pleasantville NY  10570-1829
       Work Phone: (914) 747-1525
       Fax: (914) 747-0000
       Email: [email protected]
       Offers psychotherapy, counseling, classes, and coaching for
       individuals, groups, and other professionals, on the subject of
       living well regardless of size. Writes for Dimensions Magazine
       and occasionally for NAAFA, Radiance, and BBW.

Willendorf Press
       Miriam Berg
       PO Box 407
       Bearsville NY  12409
       Work Phone/Fax: (914) 679-1209
       Offers size rights/size-acceptance workshops and consultations
       for groups, businesses, and individuals.

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d6)     What legal remedies are there for discrimination on the basis
       of weight and medical mistreatment of fat people?

There are two main legal recourses for addressing discrimination on the
basis of weight. On the federal level, there is the Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA) (discussed below and on the newsgroup
bit.listserv.ada-law). On the state and local levels there are
anti-discrimination laws. Michigan's anti-discrimination law explicitly
lists weight as a protected characteristic (just like race and gender).
A bill is pending in the Massachusetts House of Representatives to add
weight to their list of protected categories. Contact Project 2000 if
you'd like to work on this, especially if you live in Massachusetts and
have a story to tell about discrimination based on weight.

Here is a description of the ADA from Teresa Brady's article "The Obese:
A New Protected Class Under the Americans with Disabilities Act"
published in *The International Journal of Applied Philosophy* 8:2,
Winter/Spring 1994. (This article is hostile to the idea of obese
people's being covered under the ADA.)

       The ADA is a broad piece of legislation made up of five parts.
       Title I of the ADA prohibits discrimination against disabled
       individuals by providing equal employment opportunities; Title
       II provides equal availability and accessibility to public
       services and transportation; Title III prohibits discrimination
       in public accommodations, commercial facilities, and services
       such as hotels, restaurants and grocery stores; Title IV deals
       with telecommunications, and Title V contains miscellaneous
       provisions for individuals based on their rights under the ADA.

The ADA does not list which conditions are covered under the act; this
is being worked out by the U.S. courts.

The EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) guidelines include
obesity as a protected disability. This means that they believe the ADA
should apply to obese people, and they will allow suits to be brought
under the ADA by obese people.

One is generally considered obese if one's weight exceeds the norm
(whatever that is) by more than 15-20%. One is considered "morbidly
obese" if one's weight exceeds the "norm" by 100%. Existing ADA case law
applies to "morbidly obese" people. The ADA has not been tested with
regard to other fat people.

Airlines are exempted from the Americans with Disablities Act. They are
covered under the Air Access Act of 1990. The Department of
Transportation has information on the Air Access Act.

The ADA does not apply to military personnel, because they are not
civilians and are not protected by civilian law. The military can and
does discriminate on the basis of weight.

An example of ADA advocacy:
One person on a.s.b-f was attending a class at a local university which
didn't have any chairs large enough for her. For a while, she sat on the
floor, because the departments at the university were arguing over whose
job it was to provide a chair for her. When nothing happened for too
long, she called the departmental dean, the dean of the college, the
dean of students, student support services, and finally the ADA. The ADA
required a note from her doctor (she was pregnant at the time), and then
"proceeded to get ugly with a bunch of people in the most wonderful
way." The ADA people got her excused from class until she received
adequate support materials.

DIET DRUG REGISTRY LAUNCHED

The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (NAAFA) has launched an
online registry for those who have used Redux and/or fen/phen for weight
loss. The site, at http://naafa.org, has
been designed to both gather information about and provide information
to former patients who have concerns about the long term effects of the
drugs and to those who are suffering from the illnesses associated with
the drugs, including pulmonary hypertension, valvular heart disease, and
neurotoxicity. Information about the legal recourse available to victims
is also available on the site, and those wishing to can subscribe to an
online mailing list for updates about medical and legal news as it
develops.

LAWSUITS CHARGING DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF WEIGHT

For more cases, see the legal resources on the NAAFA web site:
       http://naafa.org/info/legal/court.html

In April 1997, UPI reported on a lawsuit filed in Mount Clemens, MI. A
supersize man is suing his former boss for harrassing him about his
weight to the point where he felt forced to quit. He was a factory
manager. His boss made him "do jumping jacks during office meetings."
The company admits that upon hiring, "he was offered a $5,000 'health
bonus' if he'd lose 70 pounds."

Cook v. State of Rhode Island

       (2 AD Cases 1147 (1992); 1993 WL 470697 (1st Cir. (R.I.)))

       Plaintiff Cook was a 5'2", 320 pound Rhode Island woman who was
       turned down for the job as institutional attendant at a state
       school for the mentally retarded. Although Cook held the same
       job for eight years previous to her reapplication, this time she
       was disqualified by the state agency, whose officials claimed
       her morbid obesity made her an unacceptable health risk and
       impaired her ability to evacuate patients in case of emergency.

       Cook claimed her obesity had no negative effects on her health
       and it did not affect her strength or agility. She sued the
       state agency claiming that she was discriminated against due to
       her weight. The district court found in her favor. She was
       awarded $100,000 and the right to the next available position of
       institutional attendant mental retardation. The case was
       affirmed on appeal by the state agency for the following
       reasons. First, the court claimed that Cook was powerless to
       manage her weight, citing the fact that even after years of
       extensive dieting, she regained all of her weight. Second,
       dieting and/or fasting could not help slow down her metabolism.
       Third, although Cook's condition is voluntary, other voluntary
       conditions such as alcoholism are covered under federal
       disabilities laws.

405-pound man sues Denny's Restaurant

       A 405-pound man is suing Denny's for $1.3 million, claiming
       restaurant workers made him feel like "a clown on parade."

       Gary A. Sellick, 36, also claims that he couldn't fit into a
       booth and the restaurant was unable to provide a chair big
       enough to hold him when he tried to eat there June 8.

       The lawsuit [...] says the experience caused Sellick emotional
       distress.

       "With them pointing at me and laughing, I immediately felt
       like a clown on parade," Sellick said.  "I don't want to be
       stared at because I'm large.  It's humiliating."

       (*The News and Observer*, Raleigh, NC, Sunday, July 24, 1994)

CITATIONS ON WEIGHT AND EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION

TITLE(s):       Weighing In Against Obesity Discrimination.
Summary:        Cook v. Rhode Island, Department of Mental Health,
               Retardation, and Hospitals and the Recognition
               of Obesity as a Disability under the Rehabilitation
               Act and the Americans With Disabilities Act.
JOURNAL:        Boston College Law Review.
               July 1, 1994; volume 35 number 4
               Page: 927

AUTHOR(s):      Brucoli, M. Andrea
TITLE(s):       Cook v. Rhode Island, Department of Mental Health,
               Retardation, and Hospitals: Morbid Obesity As a
               Protected Disability or an Unprotected Voluntary
               Condition.
JOURNAL:        Georgia Law Review.
               Spring 1994; volume 28 number 3
               Page: 771

AUTHOR(s):      Neff, Barbara C.
TITLE(s):       Expanding Liability for Employment Discrimination:
               Obesity as a Handicap.
JOURNAL:        For the Defense.
               April 1, 1994; volume 36 number 4
               Page: 14

TITLE(s):       Employment Law.
Summary:        Terminated employee denied due process
               Noncompetition covenant unenforceable where
               employment was at will Recovery under Rehabilitation
               Act for discrimination based on obesity.
JOURNAL:        Law Reporter
               March 1, 1994; volume 37 number 2
               Page: 52

TITLE(s):       Civil Rights--Handicap Discrimination Law--Pennsylvania
               Excludes Obesity From Protection Under the Pennsylvania
               Human Relations Commission, 591 A.2d 281 (Pa. 1991).
JOURNAL:        Temple law review.
               Summer 1992; volume 65 number 2
               Page: 623

AUTHOR(s):      Rothblum, E.D., P.A. Brand, Pamela A., and C.T. Miller
TITLE(s):       The Relationship between Obesity, Employment
               Discrimination, and Employment-Related Victimization.
JOURNAL:        Journal of Vocational Behavior.
               December 1, 1990; volume 37 number 3
               Page: 251

AUTHOR(s):      Klesges, R.C., M.L. Klem, and C.L. Hanson
TITLE(s):       The effects of applicant's health status and qualifications
               on simulated hiring decisions.
JOURNAL:        International Journal of Obesity.
               June 1, 1990; volume 14 number 6
               Page: 527

AUTHOR(s):      Carlsen, Susan B.
TITLE(s):       Legal Issues--A Heavy Issue: Is Obesity Grounds
               for Not Hiring?
JOURNAL:        School Business Affairs.
               June 1, 1993; volume 59 number 6
               Page: 41

ATTORNEYS WHO HAVE HANDLED SIZE DISCRIMINATION CASES

For an up-to-date list and additional sources for legal information,
see the Largesse Web site:
       http://www.fatso.com/largesse/legal.html.

     Lynette Labinger, Esq.
     Roney & Labinger
     344 Wickenden St.
     Providence RI 02903
     Phone: 401-421-9794
     Won case of Cook v. Rhode Island in Nov., 1993, which established
     legal precedent for fat people's right to protection under federal
     disability rights statutes.

     Kenneth I. Friedman, Esq.
     Beck & Eldergill
     447 Center St.
     Manchester CT 06040
     Phone: 203-646-5606
     Handles weight discrimination cases.

     Yvonne G. Bach, Esq.
     2 Penn. Ctr. Plaza #1204/15th. & JFK Blvd.
     Philadelphia PA 19102
     Phone: 215-496-9900
     Litigates cases involving weight-loss surgery

     James Loots, Esq.
     Barrymore & Loots
     815 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 125
     Washington DC 20006
     Phone: 202-466-4950
     Handles weight discrimination cases

     Karin Stackpole, Esq.
     Barrymore & Loots
     815 Connecticut Ave. NW, Suite 125
     Washington DC 20006
     Phone: 202-466-4950
     Handles weight discrimination cases

     James Goodman, Esq.
     Persons with Disabilities Law Center
     56 17TH Ave. N. E.
     Atlanta GA 30309
     Phone: 404-892-4200
     Handles weight discrimination cases

     James J. Parks, Esq.
     Gabrian and Parks, P. C.
     2525 Telegraph, Suite 303
     Bloomfield MI 48302
     Phone: 810-334-6464
     Handled first weight harassment case under Michigan's
     Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act; strong advocate for size rights;
     handles weight discrimination cases.

     Marilyn H. Marchetti, Esq.
     Oppenheimer, Wolff, & Donnelly
     2 Prudential Plz/180 N. Stetson Ave.
     Chicago IL 60601
     Phone: 312-616-5838
     Handles weight discrimination cases

     Carol Cullum,
     Cullum & Sena
     45 Polk Street
     San Francisco CA 94102
     Phone: 415-863-5300
     E-mail: [email protected]
     Attorney of size, knowledgeable about weight discrimination

     Edith Benay, Esq.
     San Francisco CA
     Phone: 415-621-4449
     Has strong background in weight discrimination

     Barbara A. Lawless, Esq.
     San Francisco CA
     Phone: 415-391-7555
     Attorney who won John Rossi's size discrimination case against
     Kragen Auto parts in 1995 and a $1 million dollar award for Rossi.

     Robert Z. Lazo, Esq.
     San Francisco CA
     Phone: 415-522-9771
     Employment lawyer who knows and cares about weight discrimination,
     also wrote article for Los Angeles Daily Journal in Oct., 1993
     about Toni Cassista's case.


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d7) Are there modeling agencies for large folks?


Plus Model Management
       49 W 37th St
       New York, NY  10018
       Phone: (212) 672-9882
       Models 5'2" and under, sizes 16-18, and 5'8" and over, sizes
       12-20.

Wilhelmina
       300 Park Ave South
       New York, NY  10010
       Phone: (212) 473-4884

See also Sandie Sabo's book on plus-size modeling in the Publications FAQ.

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SECTION F: Information about this FAQ

e1)     Are there other related FAQs?

There is some overlap in the topics covered by the FAQs. If you don't
find what you're looking for here, try the other FAQs.

The latest version of the following FAQs can be found at:
http://www.cat-and-dragon.com/~stef/Fatfaqs/

       alt.support.big-folks newsgroup FAQ
       soc.support.fat-acceptance newsgroup FAQ
       soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated newsgroup FAQ
       Clothing for Big Folks in Canada
       Clothing for Big Folks in the U.S. (parts 1 and 2)
       Organizations for Big Folks
       Online Resources for Big Folks
       Other Resources for Big Folks
       Publications for Big Folks
       Resources for Dealing With the Physical Aspects of Being Fat
       Size-acceptance

The following FAQs can be found at:
http://www.sover.net/~astarte/fa/faqs.html

       Big Folks and Fitness
       Big Folks and Health
       Big Folks and Sports
       Research on Big Folks

The latest versions of following FAQs can be found at the following
locations:

       Clothing for Big Folks in the U.K. at
http://www.thegrapevine.co.uk/Avalanche/FAQ-UK.htm
       Clothing for Big Folks in Europe at
http://www.thegrapevine.co.uk/Avalanche/FAQ-Europe.htm

       Plus-Size Pregnancy Website at
http://www.teleport.com/~rvireday/plus/

You can also find (sometimes slightly older versions of) the above FAQs
(except the plus-size pregnancy FAQs) at the following locations:


  ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/fat-acceptance-faq/

(Note: The big-folks FAQ is listed separately at these locations.)

You can also get FAQs from rtfm.mit.edu via anonymous FTP or via the mail
archive server. For information about the mail server, send email to
[email protected]
with the word "help" (without the quotes) in the body of the message.

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B2)     Posting information

This document is posted bi-weekly to alt.support.big-folks,
soc.support.fat-acceptance, and soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated.

Stef Maruch ([email protected]) maintains this FAQ.

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e3)     Contributors

These are the people who contributed significant chunks to the FAQ:
Sasha Wood              ([email protected])
Largesse                ([email protected])

Also, lots and lots of other people (too many to credit) contributed
information that appears herein, some via email and some on s.s.f-a or
a.s.b-f. Thanks to them all.

Suggestions for additions/improvements are always welcome.
Send suggestions to Stef Maruch ([email protected])

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