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Summary: General and specific information about New Zealand and life here.
This faq should be read by anyone contemplating visiting New Zealand or
thinking of moving here. Please POST any questions, don't e-mail them.
Keywords: faq, New Zealand, information, facts, culture, people
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Subject: C4.3 National Anthem(s)
God Save The Queen and God Defend NZ are on equal status... Words
available via email request from
[email protected].
http://nzcom.co.nz/NZ/Culture/Music/NatAnthem.html
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Subject: C4.4 The Gumboot Song
See Fred Dagg. Words available via ftp from
[email protected].
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Subject: C4.5 Some Works by NZ Authors
The following is a short-list of New Zealand books, selected by the New
Zealand Book Council for their brochure "Bookenz: A Traveller's Guide to
New Zealand Books". It is by no means an exhaustive collection, but rather
a selection of the works from indigenous Kiwi writers.
Barry Crump, A Good Keen Man, and numerous others.
Alan Duff, Once Were Warriors (Tandem)
Maurice Gee, Going West (Penguin)
Patricia Grace, Potiki (Penguin)
Keri Hulme, The Bone People (Picador)
Witi Ihimaera, Bulibasha (Penguin)
Fiona Kidman, the Book of Secrets (Vintage)
Owen Marshall, Tomorrow We Save The Orphans (McIndoe)
Maurice Shadbolt, Season of the Jew (Hodder Headline)
Philip Temple, Beak of the Moon (Penguin)
Lauris Edmond, An Autobiography (Bridget Williams Books)
Janet Frame, An Angel At My Table (Random House)
James Belich, The New Zealand Wars (Penguin)
Michael King, Maori: A Photographic and Social History (Reed)
Claudia Orange, The Story of a Treaty (Bridget Williams Books)
Christopher Pugsley, Anzac (Hodder Headline)
Bill Manhire (ed.), 100 New Zealand Poems (Godwit Publishing)
Ian Wedde and Harvey McQueen (eds), The Penguin Book of New Zealand Verse
(Penguin).
For further information please contact:
New Zealand Book Council/
Te Kaunihera Pukapuka o Aotearoa
PO Box 11-377
Wellington
New Zealand
Tel +64 4 499 1569
Fax +64 4 499 1424
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Subject: C4.6 Other Bits...
A comprehensive listing of NZ arts web sites exists at
http://url.co.nz/arts/nzarts.html
Updates are made at least monthly.
Footrot Flats newsgroup news:alt.comics.strips.footrot-flats
-----
Things which need to be contributed:
WHERE TO EAT: list of recommended restaurants
RECIPES: try
http://nz.com/NZ/Culture/Food/
US/NZ TRANSLATIONS: they really are that different....
FISHING: favourite fishing holes? All about whitebait (thanks NMcC :-)
ALTERNATIVE FAQ'S: available via ftp from
[email protected].
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Subject: C5 Famous New Zealanders
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Subject: C5.1 Cinema
There's a movie database somewhere with loads of NZ stuff. If someone
trips over the URL, could they please post it.
Dave Joll mentioned:
There are a lot of NZ films at the Internet Movie Database
http://us.imdb.com/
C5.1.1 Films
NZ Film Commission
http://www.nzfilm.co.nz/
Their links page
http://www.nzfilm.co.nz/aboutus_links.html
NZ Film Archive
http://www.nzfa.org.nz/
Film New Zealand (to promote NZ as a location)
http://www.filmnz.org.nz/default.htm
Weta Visual Effects Ltd
http://www.wetafx.co.nz/
(Thumbnails by Dave Joll)
An Angel at My Table Biographical movie re: Janet Frame (writer)
Bad Blood? (British/NZ co-production)
Based-on-fact movie about a murder case
Bad Taste
Battletruck
Brain Dead (US title; Dead Alive (god knows why they change it!))
Came a Hot Friday
Carry Me Back
End of the Golden Weather
Footrot Flats: The Dog's Tail Tale" (with the "Tail" struck through)
Goodbye Pork Pie Shot on location just about everywhere in the country.
Heavenly Creatures
Hinemoa
Illustrious Energy
Map of the Human Heart (NZ director, Vincent Ward)
Maui
Meet the Feebles
Ngati
Race for the Yankee Zephyr
Sleeping Dogs
Smash Palace
The Navigator
The Piano
The Quiet Earth
Sharing the title, but little else, of the Craig Harrison novel
Utu
Vigil
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C5.1.2 People
If anyone can be bothered posting a brief summary of any of these, I'll
include it (after people have commented).
Jane Campion
Peter Jackson
Bruno Lawrence
Geoff Murphy
Sam Neill
Ian Mune
Anna Pacquin
Graeme Revell - has done several major movie sound tracks (Until The End Of
The World, Body Of Evidence, Hand That Rocks The Cradle).
Vincent Ward
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Subject: C5.2 Music
Links to NZ Music on the Web
Akiko
http://nz.com/NZ/Culture/Music/MainPage.html
BFM's List
http://www.95bfm.co.nz/links.html
Simon Dear's pages
http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Users/sd/kiwimusic/
URL's NZ Arts page
http://url.co.nz/arts/nzarts.html
C5.2.1 Pop/Rock Bands
(thumbnails by Dave Joll)
Abel Tasmans Melodic alternative pop often including string,
wind or keyboard parts.
Ardijah Pop with a slight tinge of funk.
Bats, The
Blam Blam Blam Thoughtful and occasionally weird post-punk pop.
Best known for the hilarious and viciously sarcastic
"There is No Depression in New Zealand".
Body Electric, The
Chills, The
Crowded House
Dance Exponents Now known as the Exponents. "Good time" party rock.
DD Smash Rock became funk became pop. Leader Dave Dobbyn
later went solo with offerings as diverse as the
Footrot Flats movie sound track and the dark
"Lament for the Numb".
Dragon
Dudes, The
Enemy, The
Exponents, The
Father Time
Front Lawn, The
Hello Sailor
Herbs
Jean Paul Satre Experience
Johnnies, The
MiSex Cynical, self conscious post-punk rock.
Mockers, The
Muttonbirds, The
Netherworld Dancing Toys
Narcs, The
Ragnarok
Screaming Mee Mees
Sheerlux
Shona Laing
Space Waltz
Split Enz All time musical genii
Suburban Reptiles
Swingers, The Responsible for the infectious classic
"Counting the Beat"
Tall Dwarfs
Verlaines, The Complicated and literate alternative rock. Are
beginning to have their songs covered by overseas
musicians
Thin Red Line
Toy Love
etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
--------------------
C5.2.2 Blues
Midge Marsden
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C5.2.3 Country
The Warratahs
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C5.2.4 Classical
Michael Houston
Dame Kiri te Kanawa
Lili Kraus
Douglas Lilburn
Noel Mangin
Dame Malvina Major
Donald McIntyre
Oscar Natzke (sp?)
A WWW page of the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra is now available:
http://www.nzso.co.nz/
Dale Gold adds:
"We will soon have a new URL on our own virtual server, as well as a mirror
on Akiko to speed things up for overseas users. More audio is in the
works, and much of it will have a NZ slant, although it won't all be
human... :-)"
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Subject: C5.3 Literature
Murray Ball
James K. Baxter
Ian Cross
Barry Crump
Alan Duff
Stevan Eldred-Grigg
A.R.D. (Rex) Fairbairn
Janet Frame
Maurice Gee
Denis Glover
Patricia Grace
Keri Hulme (1)
Sam Hunt
Robin Hyde
Witi Ihimaera
John A. Lee
Margaret Mahy
Katherine Mansfield
Gordon McLaughlan
Dame Ngaio Marsh
Frank Sargeson
Maurice Shadbolt
C. K. Stead
Hone Tuwhare
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1
Keri Hulme was born in Christchurch, NZ in 1947 of Scottish & Maori
heritage. She lives in the settlement of Okarito on NZ's wild West Coast.
Okarito used to have 4,500 gold miners and 25 pubs but is now only tiny.
It is famous for an old store, which is the oldest building on the West
Coast, the White Heron colony and Keri Hulme. Keri lists her interests as
beach walking, whitebaiting (a traditional form of fishing in NZ), reading,
eating and drinking whisky. If you really are interested in her writing
you could drop her a line at Okarito, Private Bag, Hokitika, NZ. She may
reply.
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Subject: C5.4 Fine Art
Rita Angus
Neil Dawson
Francis Hodgson
C. F. Goldie (but which one!)
Robyn Kahukiwa
Colin McCahon
Olivia Spencer-Bower
Lew Summers
Bill Sutton
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Subject: C5.5 Humour
John Clarke (Fred Dagg)
Barry Crump
Sam Hunt
Billy T James
Gordon McLauchlan
Pamela Stevenson
Rima te Wiata
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Subject: C5.6 Other...
Rewi Alley (helped rebuild China after the revolution)
Chris Amon (motor racing)
Robert Davidson (apiarist)
Al Deere (pilot, ace (Battle of Britain), Wing Commander - Air Commodore(?))
Sir Roger Douglas (accounting?)
Sir Harold Gillies (pioneering plastic surgeon, 1)
Ernest Godward (inventor of the carburettor)
Hone Heke (Maori 'politician')
Sir Edmund Hillary (mountaineering, aid work, ambassador)
Bernard Freyberg (soldier, Governor-General of NZ, 4)
Fred Hollows (eye surgeon, honorary Australian?)
Dennis Hulme (motor racing)
Vaughan Jones (mathematics, Fields Medal winner (theory of knots))
Sir Archibald McIndoe (pioneering plastic surgeon, 1)
Bruce McLaren (motor racing)
Colin Murdoch (inventor of the disposable syringe)
Air Marshall Keith Park (Commander, Battle of Britain, Defence of Malta)
Richard Pearse (first powered flight (probably))
Lord [Ernest] Rutherford, 1st Baron of Nelson and Cambridge (Nobel Prize,
Chemistry, 2), (1871-1937)
Mark Todd (equestrian)
Captain Charles Upham (farmer, veteran soldier, VC and bar, 3)
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1
MJ Pickering wrote: (more details may be available from her)
"New Zealand surgeons practically invented the process of reconstructive
surgery. Well, that's not quite true - there were many instances of
reattaching noses and ears and such in Italy and India and a few other
places. But the first world war resulted in plenty of cases to work on and
by the time the second world war rolled around, a phenomenon called
Airman's Burn where pilots who disobeyed orders and removed their goggles
and gloves due to the heat in their cockpits suffered extensive burns to
their faces and hands when shot down meant that skin grafting really took
off.
"In the time between the two World Wars there were 4 full time
reconstructive surgeons - three were New Zealanders (working in Britain of
course). Sir Harold Gillies was the first one and pioneered many of the
techniques. Rainsford Mowlem was another but the most famous was Sir
Archibald McIndoe who started the Guinea Pig club of his patients which
some of you may have heard aboout. By the time of the WWII more pilots
were surviving crashes due to better constructed planes and penicillan
ensured a greater survival rate so there were more men for him to work on.
Gillies tended to work of the canon fodder of the front in WWI. The Guinea
Pig club still meets every year. MacIndoe was not only at the forefront of
"holistic" medicine in that he treated his patients' minds and their trauma
as well as their bodies - he wouldn't let them go back into service until
he was sure their minds had recovered also, but he was the one to make the
connection between the recovery rate of burns victims who had fallen into
the sea and the concept of saline baths for burns victims. Prior to that
an oil solution was used on their burns."
------
2 Ernest Rutherford
After receiving a master's from Canterbury College, Chistchurch, Rutherford
went to Cambridge in 1885 to work under Sir JJ Thomson at Cavendish
Laboratory.
He took up a physics professorship at McGill, Montreal, in 1898, worked
with Soddy and in 1902-3 identified radioactive half-life, moved to
Victoria University of Manchester in 1907 and was awarded the Nobel Prize
in Chemistry in 1908 for his work on radioactivity. He worked with Geiger
in 1908 and in 1909 used alpha particle bombardment of thin foils to lead
to his 1911 description of atomic structure.
He was knighted in 1914, then succeeded Thomson at the Cavendish Laboratory
in 1919. He was elevated to the peerage in 1931. His other awards
included an Order of Merit in 1921, the Copley Medal of the Royal Society
in 1922, and he was President of the Royal Society from 1925 until 1930.
In 1931 he was created Baron Rutherford of Nelson.
--
Tony Williams adds:
In 1897-98 he discovered two components of radioactivity, alpha and beta
rays. In 1898 he moved to McGill University, Montreal, as a professor
and did much work in partnership with Frederick Soddy into radioactivity
and transmutation.
In 1903 became professor of physics in the University of Manchester (uk).
Many of the brightest minds in physics at that time visited him and some
even stayed to work for him, in the gloomy basements of the university.
Much basic work in particles and collisions and nucleii was done during
this period by Rutherford and his team.
In 1918 Rutherford took over as Cavendish Professor at Cambridge (uk), a
post he 'inherited' from his old friend and mentor J.J. Thompson. The
team of researchers that ensued at the Cavendish over the next ten years
under Rutherford did much of the fundamental work in atomic physics.
Various photographs from that time show a casual roll-call of names of
people who were to become the giants in this field, all eager to visit
and work with Rutherford.
One very interesting photograph shows Rutherford, a big burly man with a
fag hanging out of one side of his mouth, standing in Vivian Bowden's
laboratory. There is an illuminated sign saying "Talk SOFTLY Please"
just above Rutherford's head. Apparently Bowden had this sign built
specially, because the ionisation apparatus was microphonic, and
Rutherford's loud booming voice could easily ruin experiments.
--
As for the existence of the Victoria University of Manchester, Richard
Kingston offered:
"Strangely enough, I possess a book called 'Rutherford at Manchester'.
It's copyright to the Victoria University of Manchester, 1962, so I guess
it must exist :-)
This comes from the preface
"Ernest Rutherford, later Baron Rutherford of Nelson, the acknowledged
founder of nuclear science, was Langworthy Professor of Physics at the
Victoria University of Manchester from 1907 to 1919"
------
3 Charles Upham
Howard Edwards wrote:
"Captain Charles Upham (retired), New Zealand's most decorated soldier and
veteran of World War Two, died last Tuesday and was buried with full
military honours after a service in Christchurch cathedral on Friday.
Upham was awarded two Victoria crosses for exceptional bravery during WWII.
"A modest hero. Upham never saw himself as anything other than a New
Zealander doing his duty. He refused to accept any land offered to
returning servicemen after the war, and also turned down a knighthood. He
spent the remainder of his years on his North Canterbury farm and avoided
the spotlight of fame which the media oocasionally tried to shine upon
him."
----
Lyndon Watson wrote:
"I took my father, who served with Charlie Upham in the 20th, to the
funeral on Friday, and I found the subject too close to many emotions to
write about for all the world to read.
"Upham's battalion, the 20th, was, in my biased opinion, the most
distinguished of all New Zealand regiments in the Second World War.
Together with the other battalions that comprised the 4th Brigade (the 18th
Auckland, 19th Wellington and 20th South Island battalions), it was made up
of the first and keenest men who volunteered in 1939, and it bore the brunt
of the actions in Crete (where Upham won his first V.C. for attacking and
destroying machine-gun posts in face of their fire), at Belhamed, and at
Ruweisat Ridge which was, like Stalingrad in the same year, one of the
crucial battles of the war (and where Upham won his second V.C. for running
in the open at advancing tanks and attacking them with hand-grenades). At
each of those battles the 20th was nearly destroyed, and it was rebuilt
each time around the survivors who somehow kept its extraordinary spirit
alive. Its third Victoria Cross was won by Sergeant Jack Hinton, who died
in June 97.
"When Upham returned from the war, the people of Canterbury raised
10,000 pounds by public donation to buy him a farm. That was enough to
buy a very good farm, but Upham declined and had the money put into an
educational trust. He eventually bought a houseless block with a rehab.
loan and turned it into a farm with his own hard work."
-----
Charles Upham died in November 1994.
------
4 Bernard Freyberg
James Lawry wrote:
Started as a Morrinsville dentist, distinguished himself at Gallipoli,
3 DSOs and a VC (for personal valour in the battle for
Beaucourt). Major-General in WWII commanding 2nd NZ Epeditionary
force. As Lieut. General Sir Bernard Freyberg he was Governor-General
of NZ for 6 years.
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PART D
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Subject: D1 THE CONTRIBUTORS
I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier, but this list is a classic
spam attractor. My apologies to any who have suffered as a result. In an
attempt to reduce its value to spammers, I've changed every occurence of
`@' to `%'. Please be warned! Or if you have a better idea, please let me
know.
? brien%worldaccess.nl
? chen203%csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Aidan Heerdegen aidan%rschp2.anu.edu.au
Alan Brown alan%papaioea.manawatu.gen.nz
Andy Bond bond%azure.dstc.edu.au
Andrew White a.white%lincoln.ac.nz
Anne Riddick riddick_a%kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Barry Allan B.C.Allan%massey.ac.nz
Barry McDonald B.McDonald%massey.ac.nz
Berkley Intermediate berkley%wave.co.nz
Blair Trewin blair%mullara.met.unimelb.EDU.AU
BLImpact blimpact%aol.com
Brian Dooley brian_d%sideways.welly.gen.nz
Brian Harmer brian.harmer%vuw.ac.nz
Brian McInturff turf%netcom.com
Brian Sorrell biobbs%aau.dk or b.sorrell%niwa.cri.nz
Bruce Barton via jbarton%actrix.gen.nz (Julia Barton)
Bruce Cowin aq141%FreeNet.Carleton.CA
Bruce Hamilton B.Hamilton%irl.cri.nz
Bruce Hoult Bruce%hoult.actrix.gen.nz
C. N. Robertson cnr%hydra.cfm.brown.edu
cakes cakes%io.org
Carlo Fusco fusco%io.org
Ceinwen Currie Ceinwen.C%xtra.co.nz
Charles Eggen cne%efn.org
Chris Fitzgerald sofsol%ihug.co.nz
Chris Rennie prtwo%chch.planet.co.nz
Christopher Hutton dmitri%acs4.bu.edu
Christopher Werry cw7r+%andrew.cmu.edu
Dale Gold dgold%basso.actrix.gen.nz
Darren Overby overby%crl.com
Dave Joll jollian%es.co.nz
Dave Matoe Dave_Matoe%UK.IBM.COM
Dave Walker walker_d%ix.wcc.govt.nz
Dave Frame phys223%csc.canterbury.ac.nz
David Farrar dpf%ihug.co.nz
David Lobb davelobb%iprolink.co.nz
David Morris mortrav%ihug.co.nz
David White d.white%irl.cri.nz
Delia Cioffi cioffi%dartmouth.edu
Dennis Gray Jr. dgray%menudo.uh.edu
Derek Tearne derek%nezsdc.fujitsu.co.nz, derek%iprolink.co.nz
Dirk Rossouw drossouw%gmu.edu
Don Stokes don%zl2tnm.gen.nz
Donald Neal dmneal%waikato.ac.nz
Ed Ablon(?) eablon%connect.net
Errol Hunt hunte%post.crc.cra.com.au
Ewan McKissock ewanm%landyatch.csd.sgi.com
Fiona Cubie fionac%waikato.ac.nz
Frank Pitt frankie%mundens.southern.co.nz
Frank van der Hulst frankv%pec.co.nz
Frits Schouten schouten.jf.frits%bhp.com.au
Gareth Cronin garethc%ww.co.nz
Garry Collins garryc%rhema.pec.co.nz
Gavin Bell mgmt012%csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Geoff McCaughan geoff%southern.co.nz
Gina Willingale gina%rusty.siml.co.nz
Gloria Williams gowilliams%galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Graham C. grahamc%inca.co.nz
Grant D. Pease grant%intersys.co.nz
Greg Lauer glauer%expert.cc.purdue.edu
Guillermo Gamero rgu280%waccvm.corp.mot.com
Hantie Braybrook hb102095%iafrica.com
Hineihaea Murphy Hineiha%ibm.net
Howard Edwards H.Edwards%massey.ac.nz
Hugh Grierson hugh_grierson%trimble.co.nz
James Yetman yetmanj%qed.uucp
Jaqui Lynch lynch%cleo.bc.edu
Jennifer Mary George jmgeorge%leland.Stanford.EDU
Jeremy Clyma jeremy%central.co.nz
Jim Lovell-Smith jlovells%ucs.indiana.edu
Jon Clarke jonc%air.com.hk
John Baglow ai433%FreeNet.Carleton.CA
John Davis j.davis%chem.canterbury.ac.nz
John Hopkins jhopkins%chch.planet.co.nz
John Lozowsky john.lozowsky%moh.govt.nz
John Mee jmee%ns.net
John Ryder ryder%central.co.nz
John Spavin spavinjo%msnt.poli.govt.nz
John Taber taber%gphs.vuw.ac.nz
Judy Shorten jshorten%freenet.vancouver.bc.ca
Justine Lee leej1%lincoln.ac.nz
Karen Fursdon Karen%beehive.demon.co.uk
Karen Lysaght klysaght%ucla.edu
Keith Rodgers keithr%moc.govt.nz
Kelvin McMichael kelvinm%ihug.co.nz
Ken Moselen Moselenk%ccc.govt.nz
Ken Wilson kwilson%matai.vuw.ac.nz
Kieron Horide horidek%actrix.gen.nz
Klaus Failenschmid co95ksf%brunel.ac.uk
Lachy Paterson tokoono%dunedin.es.co.nz
Larry Robbins larry%nznet.gen.nz
Laurie Kennedy kennedyl%agresearch.cri.nz
Liam Greenwood liam%durie.amigans.gen.nz
Lin Nah linnah%comu2.auckland.ac.nz
Lyndon Watson L.Watson%csc.canterbury.ac.nz
M Steven(?) m.steven%uws.edu.au
MJ Pickering arachne%uci.edu
M W Woodhams mdw%ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
Mac Lynch macknife%ihug.co.nz
Mark Borrie mborrie%maths.otago.ac.nz
Mark Cresswell mark%markcres.demon.co.uk or mark%liverpool.ac.uk
Mark Doherty M_Doherty%NIH.gov
Mark Wightman mark%albasys.demon.co.uk
Martin D. Hunt mdh%gaya.wcc.govt.nz
Martin Lange mlange%actrix.gen.nz
Marty Burr mburr%manawatu.gen.nz
Michael Hood mhood%nzint.tourism.co.nz
Michael Lyford mlyford%iconz.co.nz
Michael L Steven m.steven%uws.edu.au
Miche Campbell michelle.campbell%stonebow.otago.ac.nz
Michelle Elleray mde3%cornell.edu
Mike Gill Mike.Gill%csx.cciw.ca
Mike Leon leonmike%moc.govt.nz
Mike Tuppen mike%tuppambr.demon.co.uk
Mike Wright M_WRIGHT%icrf.icnet.uk
Murray Shadbolt mjs%waikato.ac.nz
Nathan Schmidt schmidt%civl.canterbury.ac.nz
Neville C. Dempsey ncd%3tt.kiwi.gen.nz
Nick Mein nmein%bifrost.otago.ac.nz
Nina O'Flynn nof%nzer.DIALix.oz.au
Noeline McCaughan noeline%styx.southern.co.nz
Oliver Bohnenberger fm21%rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de
Pat Cain patrick%sideways.welly.gen.nz or %gopher.dosli.govt.nz(?)
Patrick Dunford pdunford%xtra.co.nz
Paul Caples(?) pjcaples%bnr.ca
Paul Campbell paul%taniwha.com
Paul Dansted pdansted%ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
Paul Gillingwater paul%eunet.co.at
Paul Nixon paul%nixnet.demon.co.uk
Paul Walker p.walker%econ.canterbury.ac.nz
Pete Moore pete%bignode.southern.co.nz
Peter Fowler gorf%actrix.gen.nz
Peter Hunt peter%chch.planet.org.nz
Peter Kerr p.kerr%auckland.ac.nz
Peter Lowish peter%cyberlink.co.nz
Peter Morris morrisp%lincoln.ac.nz
Phil Abercrombie abercrom%UG.EDS.COM
*Philip* 100317.3527%CompuServe.COM
Philip Greenspun philg%zurich.ai.mit.edu
R. Bowen bowenrw%elec.canterbury.ac.nz
Raewyn Whyte whyter%iprolink.co.nz
Ray Steel rsteel%titan.com
Richard Keightley richardk%world.std.com
Richard Miller Richard_Miller%f170.n771.z3.fidonet.org
Richard Naylor rich%tosh.wcc.govt.nz
Richard Stevenson nightowl%deepsouth.co.nz
Richard Symonds edison%nelson.planet.org.nz
Richard Turner rwturner%iastate.edu
Rob Hay HayR%Lincoln.cri.nz
Rob Simpson roks%actrix.gen.nz
Robert Burling-Claridge claridge%wronz.org.nz
Roberta Gorman rwgorman%delphi.com
Robin Klitscher robinkk%ibm.net
Rod Bicknell rbicknell%beta.delphi.com or rbicknell%aol.com
Rod Snowdon Rod.Snowdon%agrar.uni-giessen.de
Roger Dennis roger%southern.co.nz
Ross Finlayson finlayson%Eng.Sun.COM
Ross Levis ross%enternet.co.nz
Ross Stewart ross%quidnunc.co.nz or ross%wilsonwhite.co.nz(?)
Roy T. Fielding fielding%simplon.ics.uci.edu
Russell Turner turnerr%actrix.gen.nz
Sam Sampson sam%ins.co.nz
Sean Coley sean%welly.gen.nz
Sharon wn_tafunai%wmich.edu
Simon Lyall simon%darkmere.gen.nz
Simon O'Rorke simon%central.co.nz
Steffan Berridge steffan.berridge%vuw.ac.nz
Stephen D. Neely sdneely%azstarnet.com
Steve Harris saris%iol.ie
Stuart Yeates yeatsa3%cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
Suzanne Doig misc3518%csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Thomas Wilson al419%FreeNet.Carleton.CA
Tony Randle tony.randle%inl.co.nz or tonyr%atlantis.actrix.gen.nz
Tony Wilkes tony%wilkes.ak.planet.co.nz
Trevor Walker yrstyle%voyager.co.nz
Tuan Nguyen nvtuan%deepthnk.kiwi.gen.nz
Van (?) vandrklw%is.nyu.edu
Vaughan Clarkson vaughan%barton.anu.edu.au
Thanks, people!
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Subject: D2 History of soc.culture.new-zealand
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Subject: D2.1 s.c.n-z -- The Early Days
Lyndon Watson adds:
I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't vote. The RFDs and CFVs were not well
publicised. They didn't appear in any of the groups that I read regularly
at the time and the first I knew of the proposal was when the results were
posted, for some reason more widely than the RFDs and CFVs [not really,
Lyndon :-)]. I did, however, post the first day the group was enabled
here, and haven't stopped since....
But there are one or two semi-regulars among the yes votes [....] and
others who were once frequent posters but have since dropped away [....]
and one or two prominent personalities in other newsgroups who supported
the vote but haven't posted much or at all here.
Alan Murray deserves to be remembered as the first to post a regular
newspaper clippings service, a role since assumed by Brian Harmer.
It's interesting to remember that the group was created by expat New
Zealanders and in its earliest days carried mainly expats' posts. In the
first year, whole weekends used to go by without a single post. But one of
the nice things then was the level of participation by friendly foreigners.
There are still a few (g'day Chuck, Don, Amos if you're still there...),
but not enough of them and too many of the weirdly hostile (a raspberry to
Henry, Rocket Jim...) and the cross-posting nits.
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Subject: D2.2 CFV List of Voters
List of voters who voted on the CFV to create the newsgroup
Posted by Graeme Williams (gcwillia%daisy.waterloo.edu)
VOTES AGAINST (27)
ado % elsie.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
asb % wren.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Anthony Scott Botham)
basho!john % cis.ohio-state.edu (John Lacey)
becker % cs.rochester.edu (Tim Becker)
bob % omni.com (Bob Weissman)
cdr % brahms.AMD.COM (Carl Rigney)
charleen % ads.com (Charleen Bunjiovianna Stoner)
chip % chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
david % elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (David Robinson)
dziuk % hsi86.hsi.com (Ronald V. Dziuk Jr.)
heiby % chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby)
hsu % shograf.com (Jeffrey Hsu)
jesup % cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
ked01 % juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn)
kenney % hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney)
mark % hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano)
MARX % HUJIVMS.HUJI.AC.IL
palmer % hsi86.hsi.com (Mike Palmer)
peirce % gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard Peirce)
rcharbon % ATHENA.MIT.EDU
rick % crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rob % genrad.com (Robert S. Wood)
roche % cs.rochester.edu (Jim Roche)
shiau % eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Not Getting Any)
supple % ecn.purdue.edu (Murray R Supple)
timv % cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy VanFosson)
wolves!news % duke.cs.duke.edu (News Administrator @ Wolves)
VOTES IN FAVOUR (217)
Aaron.Roydhouse % comp.vuw.ac.nz
ab2y+ % andrew.cmu.edu (Antoine Paul Brusseau)
abaker % UCSD.EDU
ACV % waikato.ac.nz (Alistair Veitch)
aighb % castle.edinburgh.ac.uk (Geoffrey Ballinger)
ajm % monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Tony McGregor)
alan % essex.ac.uk (Stanier A)
ALKULA % cc.Helsinki.FI (Tapani Alkula)
Allister.Gorman % vuw.ac.nz (Allister J. Gorman)
Andy.Linton % comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton)
andy % comp.vuw.ac.nz
annn % robots.oxford.ac.uk (Ann Nicholson)
anorris % theory.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Andrew Norris)
autodesk!melange!abeals % fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Anything you don't mean ... )
BANERJ % EARTH.LERC.NASA.GOV
bbs % actrix.gen.nz (Mark Moir)
bfu % ifi.uio.no (Thomas Gramstad)
Bill.Viggers % comp.vuw.ac.nz (Bill Viggers)
bmoore % dale.cts.com
bob % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
bradleyg % cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Bradley Giesbrecht)
bruce-b % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
bryden % freezer.acs.udel.edu (Christopher Bryden)
byoung % eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Brian Young)
C9038270 % cc.newcastle.edu.au
caeaves % icaen.uiowa.edu (Cory A Eaves)
case % freja.diku.dk (Steven Snedker)
cassell%kestrel % AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (Keith Cassell)
cath % cs.cornell.edu (Cate Richardson)
cc % lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
CCLORETTA % uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
CCTR123 % cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
CCTR128 % csc.canterbury.ac.nz
cew % ISI.EDU (Craig E. Ward)
chim % neutron.rutgers.edu
Chris.Reynolds % syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Chris.Reynolds)
christ % sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Chris Thompson)
cj_west % gould2.bristol-poly.ac.uk (clare west - csd prog x2338)
clear % cavebbs.gen.nz
clive % research.att.com
cockburn % system.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Conrad.Bullock % comp.vuw.ac.nz
csakany % math.rutgers.edu (Rita Csakany)
cybapunk % tornado.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
D.Burns % massey.ac.nz (David Burns)
dave % cogsci.indiana.edu (David Chalmers)
derek % foster.actrix.gen.nz (Derek Foster)
don % zl2tnm.gp.co.nz (Don Stokes)
duncan % comp.vuw.ac.nz
elsmith % iastate.edu
emee36 % castle.edinburgh.ac.uk
ensor % math.berkeley.edu (Andrew Ensor)
ERAU007 % csc.canterbury.ac.nz
eroth % apple.com (Rico)
Ewan.Tempero % comp.vuw.ac.nz
farrell % cs.uq.oz.au
finbarg % hpwaps.wal.hp.com (Finbar Gallagher)
finlayson.r % HyperMail.apple.com (Ross Finlayson)
g9129499 % its.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence)
gaarder % theory.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Steve Gaarder)
gill % mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gillian Dobbie)
ginny % u.washington.edu (Ginny Patterson)
grandi % noao.edu (Steve Grandi)
greenfie % math.rutgers.edu (Stephen J. Greenfield)
greg % cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes)
grove % Neon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Grove)
halcyon!ralphs % sumax.seattleu.edu (Ralph Sims)
hammaker % apple.com (Rebecca A. Hammaker)
hargieka % clutx.clarkson.edu (k.a.hargie)
harichan % frith.egr.msu.edu
hazel % cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk (Hazel Sydeserff)
hosking%ibis % cs.umass.edu (Tony Hosking)
howard % Neon.Stanford.EDU (Howard Wong-Toi)
hullp % cogsci.berkeley.edu
iad % chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ivan Derzhanski)
IDIDDAMS%ESOC.BITNET % CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
jack % cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Jamie_Walker % kcbbs.gen.nz (Jamie Walker)
jaseemud % evax.uta.edu (Muhammad Jaseemuddin)
jaymin%maths.tcd.ie % pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (Jo Jaquinta)
jbj % frc.maf.govt.nz (Brian Jones)
jeanpaul % duteca2.et.tudelft.nl (J.P.M. van der Jagt)
jeff % sqa.dsg.ti.com (jeff abbott (TB02))
Jeremy.Gibbons % prg.oxford.ac.uk
JET % uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend)
jfalkner % watfun.waterloo.edu (Julie Falkner)
jiayang % stat.lsa.umich.edu (Jiayang Sun)
jjb % cs.wayne.edu (Jon J. Brewster)
jono % garnet.berkeley.edu
junikka%garfield.cs.wisc.edu % cs.wisc.edu
jwb % monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
jyoung % math.rutgers.edu (Jeff Young)
K.W.Sleeman % stl.stc.co.uk
karen % motly.cavebbs.gen.nz (Karen Hayward)
kash1 % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
kathleen % casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
KATIE % brownvm.brown.edu (Katie M Livingston)
kirk % cs.duke.edu (Kirk Franklin)
KUMAR % csc.wcc.govt.nz (Sree Kuma)
L.C.Booth % stl.stc.co.uk
laura % techbook.com (Laura Gillespie)
lba % kolvi.hut.fi (Laszlo C. Balint)
leahy % math.rutgers.edu (Andrew Leahy)
lesley % cavebbs.gen.nz
lesley % wet (Lesley Cupitt)
lisa % elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov (Lisa Bjarke)
llau1 % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
llexx % cs.ruu.nl (Lex Wolters)
losada % math.rutgers.edu (Maria Losada)
LVRON % VENUS.LERC.NASA.GOV (Ron Graham)
lxu % jessica.stanford.edu (li xu)
lyra % orac.hss.bu.oz.au (Diane Hughes)
macphed % dvinci.usask.ca (Ian MacPhedran)
mac_ftp % ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz
magier % cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier)
malc % cs.unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock)
malcolm % icl.co.nz
manuel % space.ualberta.ca
MARIOS % kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Mark.I.Williams % cc.uq.oz.au
mark % comp.vuw.ac.nz
mark % dosli.govt.nz (Mark Wright)
mark % motown.altair.fr
marsden % rsc3.anu.edu.au
martinh % gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Mary.Curtin % bbs.actrix.gen.nz
maslen % math.harvard.edu (David Keith Maslen)
matts % zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Matt Stuemky)
mbro3 % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
Michael.Newbery % vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery)
Michael.Witbrock % CS.CMU.EDU
michael % astro.Princeton.EDU (Michael D. Woodhams)
microsoft!frankm % uunet.uu.net
MJV % brownvm.brown.edu (marshall vale)
MOSKO % MATAI.vuw.ac.nz (Dave Moskovitz)
msmith % mrc-crc.ac.uk (Mike Smith x3297)
nac % deakin.OZ.AU
nancy % goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU
nic % karazm.math.uh.edu (Cherie Lawrence)
O.B.Schou % loughborough.ac.uk (OBSchou)
P.A.Addison % loughborough.ac.uk (P A Addison)
palmerp % MATH.ORST.EDU (Paul Palmer)
partain % cs.utk.edu
parten % helios.ece.arizona.edu (Kurt Parten)
patrick % sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain)
paul % cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
pbickers % tamaluit.phys.uidaho.edu (Paul Bickerstaff)
pd % sics.se (Per Danielsson)
pearson_r % maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
penny % iliad.altair.fr
peter % ontmoh (Peter Renzland)
PHYS009 % csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Bryan Lawrence, Atmospheric Physics, Oxford)
raphael % research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
raymond % cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
rcharman % phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Robert Craig Harman)
rdawson % ccs.carleton.ca (Ron Dawson)
reggie % ecn.purdue.edu (Reginald Wee Siang Tze)
RGTY_BCW % waikato.ac.nz (Brian Wharry)
RGTY_MRW % waikato.ac.nz (Mark R. Willcock, Registry Data Processing)
richard % ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Begg)
richardg % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
robert-s % cs.aukuni.ac.nz
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ruby % agora.rain.com (E. K. Cashman)
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sayers % grip.cis.upenn.edu (Craig Sayers)
sbeagle % kennels.actrix.gen.nz (Sleeping Beagle)
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steve % comp.vuw.ac.nz (Steve Cassidy)
stu % valinor (Stuart L Labovitz)
surendon % math.rutgers.edu (Timothy Surendonk)
SWAIN % cc.Helsinki.FI
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