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Subject: [rec.nude] REC.NUDE FAQS Part 1 of 5
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Summary: This posting describes the newsgroup rec.nude, including
where to find more information. It should be read by anyone who
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Copyright: (c) 1998-2008 Dennis Kirkpatrick
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REC.NUDE FAQ Part 1 of 5: The Newsgroup Itself - REV: 1-Jan-08
Maintainer - Dennis Kirkpatrick -
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** Rec.Nude is NOT Google Groups. Google Groups is an interface
that can access Usenet Newsgroups (of which rec.nude is a part)
as well as Google's own private groups. If you are reading this
file from Google Groups, please take a moment to educate yourself.
See this FAQ Part 1, Section 1.
This part of the rec.nude FAQ talks about the newsgroup itself and how
it works.
______________________________________________________________________
Table of Contents:
1. What is rec.nude?
1.1. Rec.Nude is a Usenet Newsgroup
1.2. Rec.Nude is not Google Groups
2. rec.nude rules and etiquette
2.1. Cross-posting
2.2. Binary posts
2.3. Posting format
2.4. Replying to messages
2.5. Harassment, threats, etc.
2.6. Stay on topic
2.7. This is not a pick-up joint
3. What is RNEO? (Section Deleted 1-Jul-02)
4. What to do about spam?
5. Is it possible to participate anonymously in rec.nude?
5.1. Use alternate Internet access
5.2. Use a rec.nude "courier" (Section Deleted 1-Jul-02)
5.3. Abuse of Anonymous Services
6. Endmatter
6.1 Revision History
______________________________________________________________________
1. What is rec.nude?
rec.nude is the Usenet newsgroup dealing with naturism. From the
rec.nude charter: "rec.nude serves as a medium for exchange of views,
news, philosophies, and ideologies relating to the nudist and naturist
lifestyles. Here you will find discussions of locations to enjoy
nature naturally, notifications of legal proceedings affecting
nudists/naturists, notices of gatherings and trips, and spirited
discourse on issues relating (most times) to nudism."
1.1. Rec.Nude is a Usenet Newsgroup
Usenet is one of the oldest segments of the Internet, having been
developed as a way to offer mass communications via text through
interconnected computer systems throughout the world. It first served
to share technical information between commercial entities and
educational institutions. Its redundancy was developed with the idea
in mind that if one computer or a region's computers were disabled or
disconnected, the respository of information would be available and
propagate from elsewhere. Over time Usenet expanded to include various
topics of interest to anyone and the number of topics now extends to
well over 150 thousand. Usenet has been superceded in most cases by
the world wide web, commercial and private e-mail list servers, and
private message boards. By design it is redundant and anarchistic with
few of its topical posting areas being moderated, thus assuring freedom
of speech. However, as with any such system, freedom comes at a price
and Usenet can and is populated with everything from truth-sayers to
irresponsible fruitcakes. The discerning reader will quickly determine
the reasonable from the crank (or kook). As with any non-moderated
system, there will always be those with an agenda that is contrary to
the topic, as Usenet's topics are greatly a gentlemen's agreement.
1.2. Rec.Nude is not Google Groups
Google (tm) is a commercial internet service that provides a number
of free and paid services with respect to on-line content. After
purchase of a long-term database of historical Usenet posts from the
DejaNews service, Google created a web browser interface for purposes
of searching through, and reading these postings. Soon after, Google
expanded that interface to allow posting to Usenet for those not
equipped with access to an NNTP (news) server system. Further
expansion by Google saw the creation of "Google Groups" as a
competition to Yahoo Groups (tm) which used the same web browser
interface used to access Usenet groups. Individuals may create private
moderated discussion groups using this interface. While the Google
Groups never propagate outside of the Google systems (except by design
by e-mail using its mail list feature), posting via this interface to
Usenet groups is propagated around the world through the Usenet system.
Sadly, Google makes only passing mention within its interface to explain
when a person is accessing a Usenet group thus perpetuating confusion on
the part of its customer base, and outright annoyance to the Usenet
community. If you access rec.nude through Google, you are NOT accessing
a Google Group. You are accessing Usenet via their web browser interface.
2. rec.nude rules and etiquette
Observing the following guidelines will make rec.nude a worthwhile
pursuit for all involved.
2.1. Cross-posting
Cross-posting of messages between rec.nude and non-naturist newsgroups
is almost always a bad idea. (See Part 5 for a list of other naturist
newsgroups.) Cross-posting between rec.nude and the various alt.sex.*
newsgroups is unacceptable. Threads get confused and the discussion
quickly gets "off track" as well as draing in posts and posters that
are far off topic. You should only cross-post between
rec.nude and another newsgroup if the discussion at hand is really,
truly relevant to both groups. This is rarely the case!
Note: Cross-posting to a moderated newsgroup will place the post
under the control of the moderated group's moderation team. If the
post is rejected by the moderated group, it will not display to
rec.nude. As such, when posting, create separate messages for
moderated groups.
2.2. Binary posts
Posting of binary files ("binary" = not text, e.g. pictures) is not
allowed. This is more of a general Usenet rule, rather than a rec.nude
rule; binary posts are only allowed on Usenet in groups specifically
intended for that purpose (which have the word "binaries" in their
names.) Binary posts made to non-binary groups (such as rec.nude) are
often canceled by spam cancelers without notice.
2.3. Posting format
Some recently-released news programs allow you to post messages in
formats other than plain text, such as HTML. Don't do this - not
everyone is "blessed" (some would say "cursed") with these programs,
and your messages will appear unintelligible or worse to these people.
rec.nude posts should be made in plain text to be of benefit to the
most readers. (Some programs allow you to post in both plain text and
HTML in the same message - this is a waste of bandwidth and should be
avoided as well.)
2.4. Replying to messages
When following up or replying to posts on rec.nude, it is usually a
good idea to quote a few lines from the original message, in order to
establish the context. For example, when asking a rec.nude poster for
directions to some place the poster has mentioned, you should quote a
few lines from the post so that the original poster knows which place
you're talking about. But - do not quote the entire original message!
Only quote as much as is necessary to let everyone involved know
what's being discussed. And don't quote things like signatures,
headers etc.
2.5. Harassment, threats, etc.
Do not make harassing, threatening, or otherwise inappropriate posts
to rec.nude, or follow-up/reply in that manner. Don't say anything in a
news post or a mail message that you wouldn't say to that person's
face. Let's try to keep a civil and friendly atmosphere on rec.nude.
Many people who are completely new to naturism read rec.nude, and we'd
hate for them to get the impression that naturists just bicker and
fight and call each other names. (Many would-be naturists have already
left rec.nude in disgust over this very problem, most of them never to
consider naturism again - and that's really too bad.)
Note: Some states now carry laws against threats against bodily harm
via the on-line medium. As such posters should moderate themselves in
this area or you may be subject to due process by the authorities.
2.6. Stay on topic
Discussion which is not germane to the topic of naturism should be
avoided. It is not my duty as FAQ author to dictate which topics are
acceptable and which are not. I suggest that you read rec.nude
carefully for several days before posting, to get a feel for what the
group considers to be proper discussion. Posting off topic materials
or engaging in off topic discussions detracts from the topic of the
group and is simply both ignorant and rude.
2.7. This is not a pick-up joint
rec.nude is not a place to pick up someone. Personal ads and the like
are not appropriate for this group; please investigate the
alt.personals.* groups if such is your desire.
3. What is RNEO? (Section deleted 1-Jul-02)
(Adding the tag "RNEO" (rec.nude eyes only) within the subject line was
an attempt to offer readers a method of identifying postings that were
on topic as well as non-spam. However after an initial period of usage
it was found this did not work in this newsgroup for many reasons.
Among these were varied types of news programs that did not sort such
messages into one location or the lack of news reader filters to locate
these messages or ignore others. Since this has not been used to any
extent in over a year this section has been deleted by the FAQ author.)
4. What to do about spam?
First, never respond to spam by posting hate mail to rec.nude. Ever.
In 99.9999% of cases, the spammer will never see your post, and you
will only serve to increase the amount of off-topic posts. (Especially
if you respond to a spam with more spam.) Invariably, people
responding to spam by posting to newsgroups waste more time, money
and/or resources than the original spam did. If you feel the need to
respond to spam, do it in private e-mail. And don't waste your time
responding ineffectively; before you respond to spam, please consult
The Spam Boycott Page <
http://spam.abuse.net/> for good, useful advice
on how to do so. A rational, well-directed e-mail response to spam
(e.g. by mailing abuse contacts at the offending ISP) has been shown
to be much more effective than ranting and raving on rec.nude about
it. It is my opinion that nothing will stop spam completely, so if you
are going to respond to it, you might as well do it in a way that
maximizes the positive results.
A moderated newsgroup (alt.nudism.moderated) exists where messages are
reviewed by a team of moderators before they are posted to the newsgroup.
Readers may want to check into that newsgroup for messages as well.
5. Is it possible to participate anonymously in rec.nude?
There is nothing wrong with nude recreation, and one should not be
afraid to post to rec.nude. That said, there is the fact that some
people are closed-minded and some people may be hassled for posting
here; some may lose jobs. These people have some options for posting
to rec.nude without revealing their identity:
5.1. Use alternate Internet access
For instance, open an account with an Internet service provider (ISP)
that will allow you to use a pseudonym as your account name. This will
allow you to post not as "
[email protected]" but as, for
instance, "
[email protected]". A few ISPs exist that will even allow
you to be completely anonymous, even to the ISP, if you so desire.
5.2. Use a rec.nude "courier" (Section deleted 1-Jul-02)
(The concept of using a volunteer poster to carry anonymous postings to
rec.nude was a viable system in Usenet's early days, especially when
newsgroups were not widely accessible. Couriers volunteered to handle
such postings to the net for said posters. The availability of
alternative methods for anonymous posting is now widespread and the
volunteers have, for the most part, departed rec.nude. As such this
section was deleted.)
5.3. Abuse of Anonymous Remailers
Anonymous remailers which allow one to post to newsgroups or send E-mail
anonymously were created with the intention of protecting those who had
serious personal issues that required that they remained unknown. The
corporate whistle-blower fearing for public safety, victims of abuse
seeking outreach and information, or those fearing serious retaliations
for their outspoken manner are but a few examples. Sadly, in some cases
individuals can and do abuse the anonymous remailer services by using
them to post slanderous, libelous and untrue information steeped in
personal agenda for profit, hate and prejudice, obsessive behaviors, or
even mental illness. The discerning reader of any newsgroup should be
able to determine whether a person posting through such a service has a
genuine need and agenda or whether the poster is simply taking advantage
of both the remailing service and the readership for selfish or illegal
means.
6. Endmatter
Copyright 1998-2008 - Dennis Kirkpatrick
All rights reserved. <
[email protected]>
Contributions to this FAQ have been added by numerous persons since the
rec.nude newsgroup was founded. This includes the various FAQ maintainers
and newsgroups users as well. This body stands as a compilation of these
efforts over time and serves as both newsgroup charter and FAQ.
While every precaution has been taken in the preparation of this
document, the publisher assumes no responsibility for errors or
omissions, or for damages resulting from the use of the information
contained herein.
This document may be reproduced and distributed in any medium,
physical or electronic, so long as the entire document, including this
copyright notice and the modification date below, remains intact and
unchanged on all copies. Commercial redistribution is permitted, but
you may not redistribute it, in whole or in part, under terms more
restrictive than those under which you received it. If you have
questions regarding reproduction and/or distribution of this document,
please contact Dennis Kirkpatrick at:
[email protected]
The latest version of the FAQ is always available at the following
location(s):
NEWSGROUPS:
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rec.nude - posted on or near the first of each month or
within the first 7 days (+/-) of the month.
rec.answers - same as above.
news.answers - same as above.
Your news reader program can be back-dated if you miss these postings.
FTP:
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ftp://rtfm.mit.edu//pub/faqs/nude-faq/
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu//pub/faqs/nude-faq/part1
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu//pub/faqs/nude-faq/part2
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu//pub/faqs/nude-faq/part3
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu//pub/faqs/nude-faq/part4
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu//pub/faqs/nude-faq/part5
Using an FTP or "Anarchie" type program you can access the FAQ from
this public archive.
WEB:
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http://www.sunclad.com/nfaqs
*(www.faqs.org is no longer a reliable reporitory for Newsgroup
FAQ files. The site appears to be abandoned and has not updated
in several years.)
6.1. Revision History
This document will carry a revision history by date. Any time a change is
made to any of the five sections of this FAQ the revision date will change
on each section to reflect the revision date of the FAQ as a whole. The
revision dates will be carried in last to first order with the most recent
change at the top of the document. This will allow readers to know when
the FAQ was last updated.
Revision 1-Jan-08 -Updated various segments to current standards.
Revision 31-Mar-07 -Updated various sections to current requirements.
Removed www.faqs.org as safe repository for FAQ.
Revision 10-Oct-05 -Updated various sections to current requirements.
Revision 16-Aug-03 -Updated link to Prodigy Message Board & other updates
Revision 1-Jul-02 -Issued various corrections & updates as noted within.
Revision 1-Nov-01 -Various updates to links and addresses.
Revision 5-Mar-00 -Updated various web links to current requirements.
Revision 1-Sep-99 -Updated listings for AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy, and
other reference material as necessary and submitted
by newsgroup users. Parts 1, 4 and 5 effected.
Revision 1-Aug-98 -Updated Posting Locations of FAQ and various URL
updates.
Revision 1-Jul-98 -Added FTP locations for FAQ.
Revision 31-May 98 -Added HTML locations for FAQ and other link updates.
Revision 15-May-98 -Changed information for the Nude Travel section on
the AOL system in Part 5 of the FAQ.
Revision 21-Mar-98 -Corrected URL for Fed de Quebecoise de Naturisme
Revision 1-Mar-98 -Adjusted 4 part FAQ into 5 to conform with limits of
web browser sizing.
Revision 1-Feb-98 - Carried over from previous FAQ maintainer and updated
FAQ maintainer contact info and some access info
regarding the AOL Naturist/Nudist posting areas.
Revisions Prior to January 1998 not documented.
Please do not e-mail the FAQ maintainer with questions that may otherwise
be answered in the newsgroup FAQ or the associated Beaches FAQ.
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D. M. Kirkpatrick
FAQ & Charter Maintainer - Newsgroup: REC.NUDE
[email protected]
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