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This document is a FAQ list for the newsgroup alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++.
It provides readers with a framework and a set of guidelines for posting
here, in addition to answering a number of questions newcomers here tend
to ask.

This FAQ is meant to be read in its entirety. It is posted monthly to
alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++,
comp.lang.c.moderated, comp.answers, alt.answers and news.answers.

This is the plaintext version of this list. An HTML version can be
located at
http://www.raos.demon.co.uk/acllc-c++/faq.html


Compiled by Sunil Rao <[email protected]>.
Comments, suggestions, corrections, constructive criticism and requests
for clarification will be gratefully acknowledged.


Last update: 23 August 1999

Last changes made: Updated and expanded the answers to questions 6,
10, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19.
To do list: To add answers to a number of questions and to update
information regarding compilers.



Special Thanks to...
Dennis Swanson, Jim Gewin, Billy Chambless, Mark Brown, Dave Dunfield,
Jack Klein, Steve Summit, Steve Clamage, Dennis Ritchie, Kaz Kylheku,
Lars Hecking, Pablo Halpern, Jerry Coffin, Stuart Hall, Dann Corbit,
Michael McGoldrick, Cameron Foster, Brody Hurst, Jabari Adisa,
Wieland St�binger, Chris Newton and Bernd Luevelsmeyer
for their helpful comments, suggestions, advice, corrections and
constructive criticism, and (in the case of some) for permitting me to
quote from their papers/posts.



1: What is the purpose of this newsgroup?

   alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ is an unmoderated newsgroup for the
   discussion of issues that concern novice and non-expert programmers
   in C and C++ who wish to *LEARN* more about one or both of these
   languages.

   That probably looks scary. Basically, anybody can post to the
   group. Provided the questions you post are on-topic and the answers
   you provide are accurate, you should not have a problem. If your
   question is off-topic, you will typically be redirected to a
   newsgroup that is more appropriate; if your answers are
   inaccurate, you risk being corrected with a flame.


2: What is C/C++?

   First of all, C and C++ are different languages. C was created by
   Dennis Ritchie as an efficient language for systems programming.
   Bjarne Stroustrup then extended C by adding features to support
   object-oriented programming. C++ can be considered to be a
   superset of C, but there are real differences between them.

   It can usually (though not always) be assumed that anybody who
   talks about "C/C++" as one language is no expert - this extends
   to book authors too. It is normally unclear whether somebody is
   referring to "C OR C++" or "C AND C++" when using this expression,
   so it is probably best avoided.


3: So, are C and C++ not so similar after all?

   They are indeed similar to a great extent. Incompatibilities do
   exist, though, and many idiomatic constructs used in C are frowned
   upon by C++ experts. C++ programmers generally consider code that
   does not exploit those features of C++ that make it possible to
   write better programs - programs that are more readable and easier
   to write and maintain - to be in poor style. The differences
   between the two languages are significant enough to ensure that
   one has to be clear about the language being used. However, it
   must not be forgotten that C++ is a largely a superset of C, and
   that it is possible (though perhaps not desirable) to write code
   that works correctly in both languages.

   A lot of people incorrectly believe that object-oriented
   programs cannot be written in C; this is not true. What is true
   is that C++ provides features that make it easier to write in a
   style that is object-oriented; in other words, C++ supports
   programming in an object-oriented style.


4: What is the difference between this newsgroup and comp.lang.c or
comp.lang.c++?

   This newsgroup is primarily intended for discussion related to the
   LEARNING of C and C++. The other two groups are primarily intended
   for discussion of the features of the respective languages
   themselves. Naturally, some overlap does occur. This group does tend
   to be slightly (perhaps excessively so) more informal, though. Most
   regulars on this group show great patience with many common
   beginners' questions and will willingly expound on many topics of
   interest or particular difficulty, referring to appropriate
   reference material, either in printed or in electronic form, as
   necessary.


5: What kind of questions may be asked here?

   Any question relating to any aspect of C or C++ that you're having
   trouble understanding is on topic here. By C, what is meant is the
   language PROPER and its standard library as defined by ANSI and ISO.
   C++ discussions are about the proposed language standard (that
   recently passed its formal vote) and the library it defines. Any
   questions relating to specific compilers, third-party or non-
   standard libraries, compiler extensions etc are unwelcome here, and
   will probably be answered with a redirection to a more appropriate
   newsgroup.

   If you've been thus redirected, do not get miffed or upset and post
   an angry response - it will cut no ice with the regulars and will
   only label you as an unwilling learner. What's discussed in this
   group is rigidly defined to limit the traffic and make the group
   useful to as wide a possible audience as possible.


6: I have a burning question about XXX. What should I do first?

   First of all, do check to see if your question has not been been
   answered before. Look up any of the standard references on the
   language. If you can't find the answer, browse the group, lurk here
   for a few days, search the archives at Deja.com, read the relevant
   FAQs (including those of comp.lang.c and comp.lang.c++), and if you
   STILL can't find the answer, post by all means.

   Note that you might not be the first ever learner to have run into
   your problems. There is a good chance that your question has been
   answered before.

    Deja.com: http://www.deja.com/
    C FAQ:    http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
    C++ FAQ:  http://www.cerfnet.com/~mpcline/c++-faq-lite/


7: What other points should I make note of BEFORE posting here?

    Please observe basic Netiquette guidelines. If you're not sure of
    what these are, subscribe to news.announce.newusers, and read *ALL*
    of the posts there. A good reference is
      http://www.ezine.com/netiquette.html

    To summarise these points very briefly - ensure that your post is
    on topic. Do your homework before posting. Don't post the same
    question one hundred times. Don't troll. Don't post homework
    questions without anything to show your effort. Don't ask for
    replies to be sent by email. Don't post binaries. Make sure that
    your subject line is an accurate description of the problem/topic.

    Please do not ask for replies by email. If you haven't got the time
    or patience to read the newsgroup, that's tough. The answers you
    receive might benefit other readers of the newsgroup as well, and
    you yourself might learn more from the discussions your question
    might generate.

    If you have to reply, be accurate and precise - your reply is being
    read by LEARNERS, remember. If you are unsure or have nothing new
    to add, don't bother.

    For heaven's sake, don't get abusive when you are corrected or
    redirected. If you are unsure as to why you have been redirected,
    ask the person who did so *PRIVATELY* by email. There usually is
    a good reason - see question 9.

    Do not take any answers on trust. Sadly, many of those who post
    answers here know even less than the interested learner who posted
    the original question. Wait for a few days before relying on any
    posted code or answers, just in case they might be corrected by
    others. This is also why it is a very bad idea to email your
    questions directly to regulars; you have no insurance against
    any potential mistakes - remember that nobody is infallible.

    Please do not make any MIME or UUENCODED posts (this includes
    HTML). Many newsreaders cannot handle such posts correctly. You
    will only make it impossible for many to read your posts.

    And please try not to flame. This is a learners' group. Not
    everyone who posts here is aware of all the issues involved. A
    grumpy attitude only makes things difficult for everyone
    concerned.

    It usually helps if you indicate in somewhere in your post if
    you're expecting a C or a C++ answer - several techniques
    appropriate to C++ will not work in C, and some C programs will
    not work or are considered bad style under C++. It also makes it
    easier for other readers - they can then safely ignore your post
    if they cannot help you with it. If you're not sure as to which
    language you're learning, you probably need to get better
    resources to learn from.


8: I posted a homework question, but got no help; only sarcastic
responses. Why?

    Homework questions are in general not welcome here - most attempts
    to disguise one usually do not work particularly well. You will
    typically receive no help unless you can demonstrate that you have
    made an honest attempt to solve the problem yourself, by posting
    some code you have trouble with, for instance.

    There is little point in a regular supplying you with code to
    fulfil an assignment if you are going to pass the course and come
    out and work on real-world projects without knowing how to even
    tackle a basic homework problem. See also
     http://home.att.net/~jackklein/ctips01.html#homework
     http://members.xoom.com/jshiva/hw.txt


9: Why are questions relating to Windows, Graphics, Sockets etc. off-
topic here?

    Questions on these topics come up every so often here. C and C++
    are languages, not operating systems. They come with limited,
    though highly useful, standard libraries. While any question
    relating to these libraries is relevant and most certainly on
    topic, a question relating to MFCs, for instance, is of absolutely
    no interest to a Unix expert, and vice-versa. There exist
    newsgroups DEVOTED to these non-standard additions. It certainly
    makes more sense to post a question in a place where there is a
    greater chance of it being answered, and answered correctly. As
    a beginner, it probably makes more sense to concentrate on the
    core language itself and master that before branching off to
    learn system-specific tricks.

    See also http://members.xoom.com/jshiva/offtopic.txt


10: What are some other related groups where I might post questions?

    (Answer adapted from the regular "Welcome to comp.lang.c" post
    by Billy Chambless and Tim Behrendsen)

    You *really* ought to be able to work out where to post by
    yourself. Please, please, please, for heavens' sake read the
    FAQs and lurk for a while before posting your questions.

    Please do not post to more groups than are necessary. Think
    carefully about the relevance of your post before you post to any
    of the newsgroups mentioned below. If you decide that your question
    is indeed relevant to more than one newsgroup and is not a FAQ,
    please cross-post rather than multi-post. Remember that many
    regular readers of this newsgroup also follow several of the other
    groups mentioned below.

    Note: if your news server does not carry the borland, microsoft or
    watcom newsgroups, you might find it necessary to connect
    to forums.borland.com, msnews.microsoft.com or forums.sybase.com
    instead. See also
     http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/
     http://sdn.sybase.com/sdn/appdev/newsgroups.stm

    * Language Issues

     C                         comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c.moderated
     C++                       comp.lang.c++.moderated, comp.lang.c++
     x86 assembly              comp.lang.asm.x86

    * Non-language-specific Issues

     Algorithms                comp.programming
     Graphics                  comp.graphics.algorithms

     Another avenue worth exploring for general algorithms questions
     might be the bulletin board at the Analysis of Algorithms
     homepage based at http://pauillac.inria.fr/algo/AofA/ and
     mirrored at http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/mirror/INRIA/algo/AofA/.

     There is a real difference between an algorithm and an
     implementation thereof. A question regarding an algorithm itself
     is, strictly speaking, off-topic though issues do get raised here
     in the absence of any good newsgroup to discuss them in.
     Questions relating to implementations are of course on-topic
     here.

    * Compilers/Libraries

     The gcc compiler          gnu.gcc
     DJGPP (gcc for DOS)       comp.os.msdos.djgpp
     Borland C++               borland.public.cpp
                               borland.public.cpp.language
     Borland C++Builder        borland.public.cppbuilder
                               borland.public.cppbuilder.language
     Visual C++                microsoft.public.vc.ide_general
                               microsoft.public.vc.language
     Watcom C/C++              powersoft.public.watcom_c_c++.general
     CodeWarrior               comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior

     MFC                       microsoft.public.vc.mfc
                               comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.mfc
     OWL                       borland.public.cpp.owl
                               comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.owl
     VCL                       borland.public.cppbuilder.vcl

    * Operating Systems/System Specifics

     DOS issues                comp.os.msdos.programmer
     MS Windows                comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
                               microsoft.public.win16.programmer.*
                               microsoft.public.win32.programmer.*
     OS/2                      comp.os.os2.programmer.misc
     Macintosh                 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc
     General UNIX              comp.unix.programmer
     Amiga                     comp.sys.amiga.programmer


11: HELP! My program does not work correctly. What do I do now?

    Before posting code here, try and make sure that it at least
    compiles correctly, even if it does not quite behave the way you
    intended it to. Try and localise your error to a particular
    function or section of code - most readers have no time to wade
    through pages of code (If you are unable to do this, you probably
    need to start again from scratch anyway.). Do NOT under any
    circumstances post all of your code as an attachment - many will
    simply ignore your post. Please also specify if your code is C
    or C++.

    Essentially, post the smallest complete program that manifests the
    problem. This makes it easier for the reader to answer your
    question. You might find that doing this enables you to answer
    your question yourself!

    Read the answer to the above question as well. And do learn how to
    use the debugger that came with your compiler. It usually helps if
    you set the warning levels to the highest possible for your
    compiler - let the compiler pick out any errors and warn you of
    any potential problems. And if you post any errors or warning
    messages with your code, it makes it that much easier for a
    regular to see what's wrong with your code - any need to compile
    it yet again will be minimised, especially if the error is a
    common one.


12: What online tutorials exist for learning C and C++?

    The best online tutorial for C I have come across has got to be
    Steve Summit's class notes for the C courses he teaches.
     http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/cclass/cclass.html

    There are references to other C tutorials in his C FAQ as well.

    Vinit Carpenter maintains a list of resources for learning C
    and C++. Do note, however, that a fair number of the tutorials
    placed online contain mistakes and/or are out of date.
     http://www.cyberdiem.com/vin/learn.html

    Ted Jensen's tutorial on pointers and arrays in C can be found
    at http://pweb.netcom.com/~tjensen/ptr/cpoint.htm

    Tom Torfs has written an excellent, complete tutorial, meant
    to complement a good introduction to C. It's not primarily
    intended for the complete beginner to the language, though.
     http://members.xoom.com/tomtorfs/cintro.html

    See also the answer to question 18.


13: What should I look for when picking a book to learn from?

    Opinions vary widely. Most readers recommend the book(s) they
    learnt from, regardless of whether or not they might actually be
    suitable for the learner. The fact that many commonly recommended
    books are either full of errors or hopelessly out of date (or
    even both!) makes matters worse.

    Beware of books that claim to teach you both C and C++ - they might
    end up teaching you a horrible hybrid instead. It is also probably
    better to stick to books that conform to the C and C++ standards,
    at least while beginning. Many compiler-specific books do not go
    into sufficient depth regarding important language issues and
    usually fail to be clear as to whether something is specific to the
    compiler under consideration or not.

    Some texts come bundled with compilers - it's usually worth
    checking to see how out-of-date the compiler actually is. For C,
    this is probably less of an issue than it is for C++, simply
    because compiler writers have had over a decade to catch up with
    the standard.

    It pays to keep more than one good book handy; many books known for
    their technical accuracy can seem dense and unreadable in places,
    and you might at times need to back up a primer with a reference.

    Do make sure that you get the latest edition of any of these books
    you decide to purchase. Also please check to see if there is an
    errata list available online for any book you decide on; this is
    particularly important for programming language texts. It pays to
    be suspicious of books for which such lists cannot be located
    online for whatever reason.

    The Association of C and C++ Users maintains a collection of book
    reviews taken from its journals. Many of the reviews are fair and
    excellent in their criticism, though there are a few minor
    inconsistencies and a number of truly awful books have escaped
    with favourable reviews. It's a useful starting-point, though.
     http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/public/

    Many C and C++ experts recommend against using ANY book written by
    a certain Herbert Schildt. To see why, read the answer to question
    16. The "Dummies" series of books is not particularly
    well-regarded either in general.


14: What are the best books I can learn C from?

    If you wish to learn C, the classic text - the "Bible" - is "The C
    Programming Language", 2nd Edition, by Brian Kernighan and Dennis
    Ritchie. This hallowed text describes and explains ANSI C. K&R2 is
    renowned for its brevity, clarity, elegance and completeness; but
    these very factors can make it heavy going for the beginner.
     http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cbook/

    K N King's "C Programming: A Modern Approach" is another text
    frequently recommended on comp.lang.c. This book is a good,
    thorough introduction to C that is a lot easier to work with
    from a beginner's perspective.
     http://knking.com/books/c/

    Another frequently recommended book on C is "C - How to
    Program", 2nd Edition, by H M Deitel and P J Deitel. Please note
    that I have not had a chance to read this book, and include the
    reference on the strength of the the recommendation of a number
    of regular posters to comp.lang.c.
     http://www.deitel.com/products_and_services/publications/chtp2.htm


15: What are the best books I can learn C++ from?

    Before going further, I should mention that I am not a C++
    programmer myself, and the recommendations listed here are based on
    positive comments I have heard from others.

    The C++ equivalent of K&R2 is "The C++ Programming Language", 3rd
    Edition, by Bjarne Stroustrup. Experienced C++ programmers love it;
    however, many beginners seem to find it very hard going indeed.
    Like K&R2, it assumes basic familiarity with programming concepts
    and is not really intended for the absolute beginner. It does not
    assume any previous knowledge of C.
     http://www.research.att.com/~bs/about_3rd.html

    A more accessible book that is intended for beginners is "C++
    Primer", 3rd Edition, by Stanley Lippman and Jos�e Lajoie. This
    book is thorough, and conforms to the C++ standard. It is
    reportedly extremely clear and detailed, and, again, does not
    assume any previous knowledge of C.
     http://cseng.aw.com/bookdetail.qry?ISBN=0-201-82470-1&ptype=0

    Another text I've seen seen particularly recommended is "C++ - How
    to Program", 2nd Edition, by H M Deitel and P J Deitel. Again, this
    text does not assume prior knowledge of C.
     http://www.deitel.com/products_and_services/publications
                                                           /cpphtp2.htm

    Other texts I have seen recommended a number of times on the C++
    newsgroups include the badly-named-though-often-recommended "Teach
    Yourself C++ in 21 days" by Jesse Liberty, "C++ Primer Plus" by
    Stephen Prata, and "Thinking in C++" by Bruce Eckel.
     http://www.libertyassociates.com/book_edit.htm#21 Days
     http://www.bruceeckel.com/books.html#ThinkingInCPlusPlus

    Bruce Eckel has also placed a "beta" of the second edition of his
    "Thinking in C++" online as well. Do remember that it isn't the
    final version and that there might remain some as-yet undetected
    errors.
     http://www.eckelobjects.com/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

    The C++ FAQ contains some recommendations for C++ books as well.


16: Why do many experts not think very highly of Herbert Schildt's
books?

    A good answer to this question could fill a book by itself. While
    no book is perfect, Schildt's books, in the opinion of many
    gurus, seem to positively aim to mislead learners and encourage
    bad habits. Schildt's beautifully clear writing style only makes
    things worse by causing many "satisfied" learners to recommend his
    books to other learners.

    Do take a look at the following scathing articles before deciding
    to buy a Schildt text.
     http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/schildt.html
     http://herd.plethora.net/~seebs/c/c_tcr.html

    The above reviews are admittedly based on two of Schildt's older
    books. However, the language they describe has not changed in the
    intervening period, and several books written at around the same
    time remain highly regarded.

    The following humorous post also illustrates the general feeling
    towards Schildt and his books.
     http://www.qnx.com/~glen/deadbeef/2764.html

    There is exactly one and ONLY one C book bearing Schildt's name on
    its cover that is at all recommended by many C experts - see Q 25.


17: Where can I get a free C or C++ compiler?

    (Answer adapted from Joe Buck's FAQ for g++ and libg++.)

    * gcc

     gcc is a free C and C++ compiler from the Free Software
     Foundation available for many Unix-based systems. Its ports for
     other systems are also freely available.
      http://www.fsf.org/software/gcc/gcc.html
      ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/

     egcs (the experimental gnu compiler system) is another free
     project (based on gcc). Check out
      http://www.cygnus.com/egcs/

     The MS-DOS port (DJGPP) of gcc runs on a 386 or higher, and is a
     full 32-bit compiler. Make sure you read the FAQ thoroughly
     first, however, and post any questions you have regarding its
     setup to comp.os.msdos.djgpp, not here.
      http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/

     For a port of gcc that works on 32-bit Windows, look at
      http://www.cygnus.com/misc/gnu-win32/
     Also, for another port, see
      http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/
                                          gnu-win32/egcs-mingw32.html

     You could also get hold of Bloodshed Dev-C++, which is
     essentially Mingw32 bundled with an editor, packaged in an
     easier-to-use form.
      http://www.bloodshed.nu/devc.html

     For the Amiga, BeOS, and pOS, look at the GG port of gcc at
      http://www.ninemoons.com/GG/

     EMX is a port of gcc to OS/2 that also works on DOS.
      http://www.os2ss.com/unix/emx09c/


    * lcc

     lcc-win32 is a free C compiler available for 32-bit Windows.
      http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/

     It is based on the retargettable lcc system.
      http://www.cs.princeton.edu/software/lcc/


    * Pacific C

     The Pacific C compiler is available for free for personal use.
     You can download it from
      http://www.hitech.com.au/products/pacific.html


    * MPW

    If you're programming under the Apple Macintosh, you can obtain
    the Macintosh Programmers' workshop for free.
     http://developer.apple.com/tools/mpw-tools/


    * Turbo C

    Inprise (formerly known as Borland) have commenced making older
    versions of their software available for free download. This
    includes older (possibly pre-standard) versions of their Turbo C
    compiler.
     http://community.borland.com/museum/


    * Micro-C

     If you are looking for a free C compiler for MS-DOS that is easy
     to install and use, take a look at Micro-C, available from
      http://www.dunfield.com/

     Do bear in mind that it is not wholly compatible with
     the standard. The incompatibilites are well-documented, however.


18: What good websites/online references exist for C and C++?

    http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/ is an excellent resource for C,
    containing a number of extremely useful links and pointers.

    For beginners to C (and C++), Jack Klein has put up an excellent
    page with tips, suggestions and expanded answers to a number of
    commonly asked beginners' questions.
     http://home.att.net/~jackklein/c/c_main.html

    The Comeau Computing web site features several highly informative
    and useful resource pages, including
     http://www.comeaucomputing.com/resources/litsuggs.html
     http://www.comeaucomputing.com/faqs/cppfaq.html

    Steve Summit has archived some of his longer and more informative
    Usenet posts at
     http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/readings/index2.html

    Check out the C++ Virtual Library for some useful C++ links.
     http://www.desy.de/user/projects/C++.html

    You may wish to look at the C Language Online Journal at
     http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~jxh/CLOJ/

    For some useful code snippets (some portable; others not),
    check out Bob Stout's SNIPPETS archive at
     http://www.snippets.org/

    Karim Ratib's well-indexed code page has links to many useful
    resources.
     http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~ratib/code

    Martin Leslie's C Programming reference site is at
     http://www.gator.net/~garyg/C/c.html

    Jamie Blustein's C Programming Language resources are at
     http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~jamie/.Refs/C-refs.html

    Scott McMahan's C Programmer's Notebook, which discusses a
    number of issues C programmers encounter as their experience
    grows, is at
     http://www.skwc.com/essent/prognotebook.html

    Some questions relating to what standard C is all about are
    answered at
     http://lglwww.epfl.ch/~wolf/c/

    Also, check out

    The Mining Company's C/C++ site,
     http://cplus.miningco.com/

    Jon Morris Smith's C++ resources directory,
     http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~jdm/cpp.html

    Robert Davies' list of online C++ references,
     http://nz.com/webnz/robert/cpp_site.html

    The #C++ site,
     http://www.cl.ais.net/morph/c++/main.html

    and Simo Salminen's Programmers' Oasis C and C++ page.
     http://www.utu.fi/~sisasa/oasis/oasis-cc++.html


19: Should I learn C before learning C++?

    According to a number of C++ experts, including its creator Bjarne
    Stroustrup, and Marshall Cline (the author of the C++ FAQ), the
    answer is a firm no.

    Look up the C++ FAQ to see why Cline thinks you do not need to
    learn C before C++. A post by Bjarne Stroustrup to comp.lang.c++
    addresses this point too.
      http://www.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

    "Learning Standard C++ as a New Language" - a paper by Stroustrup
    available from http://www.research.att.com/~bs/papers.html -
    examines this much-debated issue in great depth, but the paper is
    aimed more at educators than at beginners.


20: What is the difference between C++ and Visual C++?

    C++ is a programming language. Visual C++ is Microsoft's
    implementation of it. When people talk about learning Visual C++,
    it usually has more to do with learning how to use the programming
    environment, and how to use the Microsoft Foundation Classes (MFCs)
    for Windows rather than any language issues. Visual C++ can and
    will compile straight C and C++.


21: What is portability? Why are so many people concerned about it?

   C and C++ are languages that are not tied down to a particular
   platform. This means that, with care, it is possible to write useful
   code in either of these languages that will run on different
   platforms without modification.

   That is not to say that ALL code written in these languages must
   conform strictly to the standards - in practice it is sometimes
   neither possible nor desirable to achieve this aim. However, the job
   of porting code is made easier when any system-specific stuff is
   carefully packaged or abstracted away, so that it is clear and
   straightforward to make the necessary changes during a port.

   In order to be able to do this effectively, it is important to be
   aware of what can and can not be done within the realms of the
   standards set by these languages. That is why a lot of importance is
   placed on adhering strictly to the standards, at least while
   learning.


22: How do I BEGIN to write C or C++ under Visual or Borland C++?

    This question is, strictly speaking, off-topic, but is answered
    here since it's one that seems to plague many beginners.

    To start with, you need to make sure that you are not writing a
    Windows application. Try creating a new project or application
    to target MS-DOS, QuickWin or Win32 Console depending on your
    compiler version. You can then use the Standard C and C++
    libraries to write strictly conforming programs. It's best to
    learn to write standard-conforming programs first before
    branching off into writing Windows programs.

    If you find that you are having a lot of trouble setting up your
    compiler, a good place to ask questions is a newsgroup devoted to
    your compiler. See Question 10 for a list of such groups.


23: HELP! My program seems to compile correctly, but when it runs, a DOS
window flashes and then vanishes.

    This can sometimes occur when you are developing programs using an
    IDE. A command prompt window opens and displays the output, and
    control is passed back immediately to the IDE.

    To get around this, you can look through the various menus to find
    a "View Output Screen" option. Alternatively, you could open a
    command prompt window and change directory to the one your
    executable is going to end up in and run your executable directly
    from there.

    The solution of using a non-standard function to keep the
    executable running until a key is pressed is not a very good idea -
    especially if you are going to run your program outside of the
    development environment.


24: Why doesn't this FAQ cover language issues?

    This is because other better, more comprehensive resources exist
    for this purpose. See the answers to questions 12 and 18.


25: Where can I obtain a copy of the standards for C and C++?

    You cannot obtain copies of the standards for free. This is because
    the standards organisations earn a large part of their revenue from
    selling printed copies.

    The C FAQ tells you how you can obtain copies of the C standard.
    You could also buy "The Annotated ANSI C Standard", by the
    afore-mentioned Herbert Schildt (question 16). Make sure that you
    ignore the annotations completely, however.

    The C++ standard can be obtained online directly from the ANSI
    Electronic Standards store . After registering yourself for free,
    you can download the document in Adobe PDF format on payment of
    $18.00 (US) by credit card.
     http://webstore.ansi.org/ansidocstore/default.asp

    The standards documents can be daunting at first sight; meant, as
    they are, to be as formal and precise as possible. They are NOT
    suitable for learning from, but are intended rather to be used as
    the ultimate authority to check with on any language issue.

    Also, check the comp.std.c++ FAQ.
     http://reality.sgi.com/austern_mti/std-c++/faq.html


26: HELP! I get errors when I try to compile "hello, world"!

    Check your source to make sure you haven't missed any semi-colons
    or braces. Also remember that C and C++ are case-sensitive - Main()
    and main() are completely different, for instance. If you are
    satisfied that the program source is all right, then you probably
    have not set your compiler up properly. You might need to ask one
    of the experts in a newsgroup devoted to your compiler about this -
    see the answer to question 10.

    The sole reason for redirecting compiler setup questions to other
    groups is to reinforce the point that a language is inherently
    separate from an implementation of one. There are simply too
    many different implementations of C and C++, and too many
    subtleties involved in the actual learning of C and C++ for all
    of them to come under the banner of this newsgroup.


27: Which language should I learn first then - C or C++?

    The answer to this depends on your own inclinations. C is a
    smaller, less complex language than C++, and is consequently easier
    to master. However, it is probably easier to get up to speed with
    C++, if you make effective use of the standard library. Some find C
    to be more elegant than C++, others think it to be too "unsafe".
    C++ programmers generally feel that it has features that make it
    easier to write good, robust, readable and maintainable code in
    than in C.

    If you do decide to learn C++, there is little point in learning
    C itself first. See also question 19.

    If you have little or no programming experience, be prepared to
    face a real challenge. C and C++ have enough quirks and subtleties
    to catch out even expert programmers in other languages. It's not
    impossible to learn to program with C or C++ as a first language,
    just more difficult than with Turing, Pascal or a structured
    BASIC, for instance. Programming in C or in C++ is generally
    considered to be a more pleasureable experience than doing so
    in beginners' languages by those experienced in either, but the
    very fact that your freedom is limited and restricted by these
    languages makes them easier to learn.


28: Why are C and C++ so popular and widely-used?

    (First part of answer adapted from a March 1998 comp.lang.c post
    by Kaz Kylheku on "Why Has C Proved To Be Such A Succesful
    Language")

    C has always been a language that never attempts to tie a
    programmer down - it allows for easy implementation, it comes with
    a genuinely useful standard library that can itself be implemented
    in C, and it is both efficient and portable. C has always appealed
    to systems programmers who like the terse, concise manner in which
    powerful expressions can be coded. C was widely distributed with an
    Operating System (Unix) that was actually largely written in C
    itself. Also, C allowed programmers to (while sacrificing
    portability) have direct access to many machine-level features that
    would otherwise require the use of Assembly Language.

    As Dennis Ritchie writes in his paper, "The Development of the C
    Language",

        C is quirky, flawed, and an enormous success. While accidents
        of history surely helped, it evidently satisfied a need for a
        system implementation language efficient enough to displace
        assembly language, yet sufficiently abstract and fluent to
        describe algorithms and interactions in a wide variety of
        environments.

    C++ has its basis in C - extending it by supporting features meant
    to encourage and support the development of large programs. Perhaps
    most importantly, it supports object-oriented programming in a
    familiar setting and framework (that of C). When C++ was created,
    one of the initial aims was to retain compatibility with C to as
    large an extent as possible, and retain its spirit and efficiency.
    It was possible to convert from C to C++ gradually, thus making use
    of C++ (initally, at least) as a "better C", and moving on to
    using other features. This allowed many C programmers to learn C++
    quickly (though using C++ effectively requires a major mind-shift
    for many C programmers).


29: Why is this FAQ so grumpy/terse/curt/unfriendly?

    A lot of questions posted in alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ are posted
    by people who are generally unsure about what they are learning.
    Many beginners fail to appreciate that C and C++ are used on a
    number of platforms, and that what works with a particular compiler
    is not necessarily going to work with another, even on the same
    platform. It is important that a learner be clear about the
    differences between programming in standard C or C++, and
    programming using platform- and compiler-specific extensions. In
    the long run, this approach - that of separating the idea of
    "language" and "platform" - leads to a better understanding of both
    the language and the platform. It is generally accepted that the
    sooner this is appreciated by the learner, the better. Usenet style
    in general tends to be terse and to-the-point and this FAQ reflects
    that, while attempting to be as fully informative as possible.

    This is the only reason for grumpiness - most interested learners
    find alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++ a very pleasant and helpful place
    once they understand this. The newsgroup is nowhere near as grumpy
    as this FAQ might suggest - certainly not towards someone who has
    read and understood all it has to say!
--
{ Sunil Rao }
"...certainly no beast has essayed the boundless, infinitely
inventive art of human hatred. No beast can match its range and
power." - Arundhati Roy, "The God of Small Things", 1997.