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     Undernet IRC FAQ [Part II] (updated 1st Sept. 1996) - Weekly Repost

               Version 1 By Paul Grant (Grant)

               Version 2-3   -   written by Mandar Mirashi (Mmmm)
                                            [email protected]

The FAQ consists of answers to several frequently asked questions on the
IRC newsgroups. Please don't ask these questions again, they've been
answered plenty of times already - and please don't flame someone just
because they may not have read this particular posting.  Thank you.

The FAQ consists of the following sections.

I)       IRC for the newcomer
II)      The Undernet (for the newcomer)
III)     The Undernet (for people on other nets)
IV)      The Undernet (how can you participate?)
V)       Acknowledgements/References
VI)      Undernet IRC server list

This article covers sections II - VI, and includes answers to:


Section II: The Undernet (for the irc newcomer)
- - -----------------------------------------------
2-1)  Well, I understand what a server is. Now what's a net?
2-2)  So far, so good. Now, why's this net called the "Undernet"?
2-3)  How do I find the closest Undernet server to me?
2-4)  Whom do I approach if I have questions?
2-5)  What are some good channels to try?
2-6)  Say...can I join some mailing list which helps with IRC questions,
     or discusses IRC in general?
2-7)  Are there any Undernet ftp/www/gopher sites?


Section III : The Undernet (for people on other nets)
- - -----------------------------------------------------
3-1)  What is the Undernet? Where does the term EFnet come from?
3-2)  Why does the Undernet exist? Do we need another IRC?
3-3)  How is the Undernet IRC protocol different from/better than the
     EFnet (and other nets)?
3-4)  So, can you summarise the advantages of the Undernet?
3-5)  Cool! Do I need to make any changes to my .ircrc file?
3-6)  How do I get to the Undernet from the EFnet (and other nets)?
3-7)  Hmm..someone was foolish enough to hand out ops to an untrustworthy
     person on our channel, who proceeded to do a mass deop, and left.
     Can something be done?
3-8)  Can I move my channel to the Undernet? What are the advantages of
     doing so? How do I register a channel?
3-9)  Can I communicate with someone on the EFnet once I'm on the Undernet?
     (or vice-versa)
3-10) Who are the Undernet programmers?
3-11) What does the future hold for the Undernet?


Section IV: The Undernet (How can I participate?)
- - -------------------------------------------------
4-1)  So, how do I get to be an "IRC op"? Why can't I be one?
4-2)  How do I apply for a link for my server to the Undernet? What are the
     requirements?
4-3)  How do I volunteer to do some work for the Undernet? No, I'm not
     looking for an O line.  I just like being nice and helpful to people.
     How do I participate?
4-4)  I have some ideas for the future design of ircd. I may also be
     interested in doing some programming for the Undernet. Whom do I
     approach?


If you're looking for the answer to, say, question 2-5, and want to skip
everything else, you can search ahead for the regular expression "^2-5".
(/2-5  in case you use vi).

While I have tried my best to keep the FAQ updated, there may be
inadvertent mistakes or omissions. Is there a question that you find
frequently asked, but not mentioned? Please send all suggested additions/
corrections/deletions/comments/etc. to [email protected]

This FAQ (both parts) can be obtained via anonymous ftp from ftp.undernet.org
or ftp.undernet.org under  /irc/docs, or from rtfm.mit.edu under
/pub/usenet/alt.irc/    If ftp does not work from your site, then try
the mail server: send email to [email protected] with

send usenet/news.answers/irc/undernet-faq/part1
send usenet/news.answers/irc/undernet-faq/part2

URL's on the World Wide Web for this FAQ are:

       http://www.undernet.org/~agifford/undernet/underfaq/
       http://www2.undernet.org:8080/~cs93jtl/underfaq/

and, the latest version can always be found at:
       http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/irc/undernet-faq/
                                                             part1/faq.html
       http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/irc/undernet-faq/
                                                             part2/faq.html

P.S. : This FAQ widely refers to the Unix ircII client and many commands
      might not work the same way if you aren't using ircII.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Section II: The Undernet (for the irc newcomer)
================================================

2-1)  Well, I understand what a server is. Now what's a net?

     IRC servers are connected together in a 'tree' like fashion
     (an undirected acyclic graph to be precise). A collection of
     IRC servers is called an IRC net. The command /links will
     display all servers on a net. The command /lusers will display
     the number of users, servers, and channels on a given net.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-2)  So far, so good. Now, why's this net called the "Undernet"?

     The term "Undernet" was suggested in jest by some of the original
     operators (dl, Wildthang and Whizzard) who started it. As time
     went by, the name stuck. :-) Upon hearing the name people often
     think that it's a net where something illegal goes on - which isn't
     quite the case. On the other hand, the name also imparts a mysterious
     angle to the IRC net. On the whole, it's a very friendly net with
     an easy going atmosphere. Most people are nice and helpful to
     newcomers.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-3)  How do I find the closest Undernet server to me?

     Luckily for you, all Undernet servers follow names of the format:

          city.state.country.undernet.org               or,
          city.country.continent.undernet.org

     Thus, you can easily locate the closest server to you. In most
     cases, this also turns out to be closest netwise as well. The
     command /links lists all servers. Choose one which is closest
     to you, and simply type  /server servername. Also, the following
     aliases are set up, country/continent wise:
        us.undernet.org  - USA
        eu.undernet.org  - Europe
        au.undernet.org  - Australia
        ca.undernet.org  - Canada
     You can try a /server countrycode.undernet.org and see if that works
     for you.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-4)  Whom do I approach if I have questions?

     You are always welcome on #wasteland - the help channel. Please
     remember that depending upon the time, #wasteland volunteers may be
     slow in responding since most peek into the window once in a while.
     However, someone or the other is sure to help you out! You may also
     try out #newbies, #help, #irchelp, #oldbies, #newbieplus.

     Another avenue is the [email protected] (general irc help) and
     [email protected] (irc oper mailing list)mailing lists - try
     mailing your question to these. You may even mail your server admin
     for more information (/admin will return information on the admin
     for that server and his/her email address).

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-5)  What are some good channels to try?

     New channels are starting up on the Undernet almost everyday. Given
     the dynamic nature of channels, the channel names can vary, but a few
     are fairly stable.

         Technical: #unix, #hack, #appleiigs, #linux, #linpeople, #amiga,
                    #root, #Windows95, #WindowsNT, #macintosh, #cu-seeme,
                    #c, #visualbasic, #11NSChat
      General chat: #chatzone, #chat, #friendly, #hotsex, #popcorn,
                       #teenchat, #ark, #talk2me, #gayteen, #readyroom,
                       #forest, #thecafe, #vampcafe, #asd, #big-folks,
                       #chitchat, #callahans, #cafebleu
        Age groups: #25plus, #30plus, #41plus, #65plus
              Help: #wasteland, #help, #irchelp, #vmshelp, #newbies,
                       #newbies2, #newbplus
             Games: #riskybus, #jargon, #acro, #chaos, #doomsday, #trivbot
                       #conquest, #chessland, #poker, #Initgame, #boggle
            Sports: #cricket, #football, #baseball
  States/Countries: #canada, #dutch, #india, #slovenija, #ireland,
                       #england, #korea, #russian, #asian, #germany,
                       #taiwan, #quebec, #italia, #mexico, #nz, #latinos
                       #texas
          Religion: #Christians, #bible, #Ccm, #Christian, #wicca, #prayer,
                       #fellowship, #mormon
          TV shows: #loisnclark, #X-files, #animaniacs
         Languages: #espanol, #francais
               Sex: #netsex, #sex, #wetsex, #bdsm, #spanking, #erotica
        Philosophy: #AynRand
     Fantasy/Role-playing:  #waste

     Feel free to try any of these. New channels are created each day.
     you can check out these with a /names or a /list command. The
     Undernet service X also supports keyword searches for registered
     channels.
                /msg X search keyword

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-6)  Say...can I join some mailing list which helps with IRC questions,
     or discusses IRC in general?

     The list  [email protected]  has been set up for people requesting
     general help regarding irc questions. The list
     [email protected]  has been set up as a medium for IRC opers
     to communicate, and discuss ideas, amongst other things. To join
     either of these, send mail to [email protected] with the word
     "help" in the body  which will send you back further information.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-7)  Are there any Undernet ftp/www/gopher sites?

      Undernet FTP sites -> ftp.undernet.org
                            ftp2.undernet.org, ftp3.undernet.org
                            ftp.eu.undernet.org (Europe)

      Undernet WWW URLs ->

         http://www.undernet.org/
         http://esquilino.enserb.u-bordeaux.fr:8001/TOP/irc/index.html
         http://www2.undernet.org:8080/~cs93jtl/Undernet.html
         http://www2.undernet.org:8080/~cs93jtl/IRC.html
         http://www3.undernet.org/~jxm181/unet.html
         http://info.undernet.org

         www.undernet.org is an alias for sci.dixie.edu
         www2.undernet.org is an alias for http2.brunel.ac.uk
         www3.undernet.org is an alias for cac.psu.edu

      Undernet gopher site -> gopher.undernet.org (aka sci.dixie.edu)

         To get to the Undernet gopher site, follow these directions:
         Main menu
           -> Other Gopher and Information Servers/
             -> North America/
               -> USA/
                 -> Utah/
                   -> Dixie College Science Gopher (St. George, Utah)/
                     -> IRC (Internet Relay Chat)/


- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Section III : The Undernet (for people on other nets)
=====================================================


3-1)  What is the Undernet? Where does the term EFnet come from?

     The Undernet is a separate collection of IRC servers on a different
     network. The servers follow a much better server-server protocol,
     while maintaining the same server-client protocol. It's much smaller
     than its counterpart the EFnet, and was designed to supplement the
     EFnet. The term EFnet stands for eris-free net. (eris.berkeley.edu
     was a server on the net which is now no longer there) The small size
     of the Undernet also works to advantage and is often considered by
     many as a good thing. On the Undernet all the operators know one
     another, people are more friendly and there are (as yet) no unsavoury
     characters.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-2)  Why does the Undernet exist? Do we need another IRC?

     Why not? At the moment the EFnet IRC is overloaded with users. There
     are frequent netsplits involving not just the odd servers, but in
     increasing cases a significant number of servers. Too much pressure
     is put onto the EFnet IRC due to the (unforeseen) explosion of users
     it has gained. Many people don't ask _if_ the EFnet irc will survive,
     but when will it go...

     For this reason the Undernet stands out as a Good Thing (tm). It can
     help take the load off of the EFnet IRC and prolong its day of
     judgement, hopefully for long enough that a solution to its problems
     can be found. The Undernet consists of some very highly motivated and
     dedicated people enthusiastic to make a success of their venture.

     There is another reason why the Undernet is here. EFnet IRC is becoming
     more and more politicized, day by day. With various EFnet IRC admins
     forming groups against one another, the amount of co-operation between
     them has become almost nil. The time which they could spend in serving
     you, the user, is instead spent in endless bickering.

     Undernet is a net where the operators are friendly easy going folks, and
     are always happy to help the users as far as possible. Abusing users is
     *highly* frowned upon, and opers follow a certain "Undernetiquette".
     Feel free to ask any questions that you may have, and though you may
     not always be guaranteed of an answer, we will surely do our best to
     help you in any way whenever possible, and in making your stay more
     comfortable.

     Yet another goal of the Undernet is to provide a better environment
     for users to communicate in, with protection against malicious users
     who try to work *against* IRC and its principles. The Undernet has an
     improved server-server protocol which disallows netsplit op riders,
     with no channel desynchs, or intentional nick collides possible.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3)  How is the Undernet IRC protocol different from/better than the
     EFnet (and other nets)?

     As time has gone by, Undernet IRC programmers have come forward with
     innovative solutions to stem some of the problems plaguing the
     current EFnet. A lot of creative solutions have been coded  by our
     major ircd programmer - Run ([email protected]), and implemented
     on the Undernet servers. These include:

     * TSpre8 - This patch makes it impossible for anyone to abuse
       netsplits and ride ops and do mass deops on your channel or lock it
       up. Mode changes are followed with a channel creation TS (timestamp)
       which is used to then reverse invalid mode changes.  TS pre8 also
       includes code which makes it difficult for even irc admins to hack
       their server to do fake mode changes without HACK notices being
       sent to all opers. TSpre8 also enables oper wallops.

     * bquiet - This patch prevents someone banned on the channel to send
       to it or change nicks. Extremely useful since /kick is almost never
       needed, and counters annoying nick changing automatons with a
       single ban until they flood themselves out.

     * silence - This patch cuts off flooding at the *local* server. Thus,
       unlike /ignore where your client continues to receive floods (even
       though you don't see them) and gets ping timed out, silence enables
       you to completely get rid of intentional flooders. To use silence,
       the syntax is: /silence +user@host   or /silence nick.

     * ANC - The anti-nick collide patch foils intentional nick colliders
       who try changing servers during netsplits on the EFnet and obtain
       the same nick in order to collide you when the net rejoins. With
       the anc patch, this is no longer possible, and the person who
       signs on *later* is rejected from the server.

     In addition to the above obligatory patches for all Undernet servers
     (all developed by Run), many Undernet servers also run the foll.
     optional patches:

     * ban - Developed FIRST on the Undernet by SIO, it was soon adopted
       by some servers on the EFnet. This patch allows you to see who
       set bans and when on a channel.

     * To - topic info - Also developed first on the Undernet by SIO, this
       patch allows you to see who set the topic on a channel and the time
       that it was set.

     * S - Signon time  - Another Undernet first, coded by SIO, this patch
       allows you to see when another person on the same server as
       yourself, signed on.

     The foll. patches which are also optionally installed, are more of
     interest to IRC admins:

     * KL - Kill line comments - Developed by Mmmm. Allow you to specify
       a comment on the K line instead of the plain stupid error message
       of "ghosts are not allowed". You may even choose to have a file
       output to a K lines client.

     * TT - Trace times - Developed by Tonto. Appends a number indicating
       in milliseconds, the amount of time lapse since the server last heard
       from the server/ client. Depending upon your Y lines setup, you can
       use this as a judge to determine ping timeouts.

     * Cl - Client connect - Developed by Twilight1. Notifies you of local
       client connects/disconnects. Useful for spotting clone bots.

     * sw - /stats w - Developed on the EFnet by mlv. Lets you gather
       statistics on average client connects per hour, day, etc. and keeps
       track on maxconnections on the server so far.

     * MC - mixed case - Developed by Jon2/mlv. Helpful patch to disallow
       users with mixed case userids (usually fake) from connecting.

     * OF - oper fail - Developed by Jon2/bry. Notifies local opers when
       a local user tried to /oper and failed.

     For more information on these patches and how they work, you can
     ftp to ftp2.undernet.org and fetch /irc/servers/README.patches

     NOTE: The Undernet has been a pioneer in many of these improvements.
     We now have released the latest version of server code u2.9 which
     continues to offer more improvemenets (reduction of interserver
     bursts, anti-ip spoof patch, anti-clone patch, etc) for our users.

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3-4)  So, can you summarise the advantages of the Undernet?

     The Undernet offers users the following advantages:

     * Lesser lag due to more intelligent routing based solely on ping
       times and traceroutes.
     * Fewer netsplits (these too are attended to by an automatic
       routing service which reconnects on splits).
     * No netsplit op riders to harass channels.
     * No channel desynchs and servers telling you that you aren't opped.
     * No nick colliders.
     * All the useful patches discussed in the earlier answer are
       implemented on most servers.
     * User friendly operators willing to help you.
     * Innovative new services such as MURC (check out channel #waste)
     * Channel registration for popular channels
        (http://cervice.undernet.org)

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-5)  Cool! Do I need to make any changes to my .ircrc file (ircII users)?

     Yes, you will need to add the following lines to your .ircrc if you
     use ircII, and would like to take full advantage of all the patches.

# Ban patch
on ^367 * if ([$4] != []) {echo *** $1 \($3 - $stime($4)) $2} {echo *** $1-}

# Topic info patch
on ^333 * echo *** Topic for $1 set by $2 on $stime($3)

# Signon time patch
on ^317 * if (index(012345679 $3) != -1) {echo *** $1 has been idle for $2 seconds.  Signon at $stime($3)} {echo *** $1 has been idle for $2 seconds.}

# TSpre8 - channel creation time
On ^329 "*" echo *** $1 : created $stime($2)

# handy aliases for the silence command and a required on raw_irc
alias silence quote silence
alias sile quote silence
on ^raw_irc "% SILENCE %" echo *** $*

# If you use Daveman's toolbox or any auto rejoin line, remove the old
# on raw_irc for KICK, and use the foll. one instead: (Run)
# [Remove the # symbol at the beginning to uncomment the lines of course]
#
#on ^raw_irc "% KICK % % *" {
#    if ([$3]==[$N])
#      {
#        //quote join $2
#        echo $mid(11 5 $stime($time())) * You have been kicked off channel $2 by $left($index(! $0) $0) \($mid(1 256 $4-)\)
#       }
#     {
#        echo $mid(11 5 $stime($time())) * $3 has been kicked off channel $2 by $left($index(! $0) $0) \($mid(1 256 $4-)\)
#      }
#                           }

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3-6)  How do I get to the Undernet from the EFnet (or other nets)?

     It is very easy to switch to the Undernet if you're currently on the
     EFnet. Simply use the command,
           /server servername
     or if a port is specified  (all European Undernet servers run on
     port  7000)
           /server servername port#

     Most Undernet servers now listen on ports 6660-6669.

     Sometimes, the "symbolic" name for the server may not work, and you
     may need the "numeric" address (a string of numbers) instead. Listed
     in the Appendix is a list of Undernet servers along with their
     numeric addresses and ports wherever relevant.

     All Undernet servers are registered in the undernet.org domain. Also,
     they follow the format: city.state.country.undernet.org or,
     city.country.continent.undernet.org E.g US servers are
               *.US.undernet.org
     and european servers are
               *.eu.undernet.org
     This will make it easy for you to remember how to get to the Undernet.

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3-7)  Hmm..someone was foolish enough to hand out ops to an untrustworthy
     person on our channel, who proceeded to do a mass deop, and left.
     Can something be done?

     The Undernet has a special service known as Uworld which takes care
     of reopping channels, and is accessible by operators. However, strict
     guidelines are in effect for its use. An oper will refuse to use
     Uworld if there already exist chanops on the channel. Uworld can be
     used if a channel has lost channel ops for some reason *and* channel
     users are unhappy about it *and* they are decided upon who's to be
     opped. To make sure that users realise the responsibility of the
     decision of sharing ops with someone else, a time delay may occur
     before the channel is reopped. Above all, it is *your* responsibility
     that you do not lose ops on your channel - an oper is not *obliged*
     to reop channels who lose ops due to carelessness on behalf of the
     current chanops.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-8)  Can I move my channel to the Undernet? What are the advantages of
     doing so? How do I register a channel?

     You're welcome to start up your favourite channel on the Undernet as
     well. Consider the many advantages. Much better facilities for
     chatting, without the annoyingly frequent netsplits; much lesser lag
     (check with /ping #channelname for yourself :); protection against
     netsplit op riders who try to disrupt channels; no channel desynchs;
     amongst the other advantages listed earlier.  We may even be able to
     set up a gateway service between the same channels on both nets, if
     all channel members are willing. (email [email protected],
     if you wish to do this; or email [email protected] or
     [email protected]). Undernet operators are always willing to
     help you in this endeavour, so don't hesitate to ask us.

     *NEW* The Undernet now has a channel service called X, which can
     protect channels. You need to have at least 10-15 supporters for
     for your channel. You can email [email protected] for
     more information or check out http://cservice.undernet.org.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-9)  Can I communicate with someone on the EFnet once I'm on the Undernet?
     (or vice-versa)

     Occasionally, a few gateway services can be found on the Undernet
     which allow you to communicate to someone not on the same net, or
     which link channels. These include 'ul' - programmed by Tonto
     ([email protected]), || - programmed by Wildthang (dvmitche@mailhost.
     ecn.uoknor.edu), Orac - programmed by Ensor ([email protected]),
     and miscellaneous others (including some by Run). Look around if
     any of these is present, and if so, try /msg servicename help.

     You can also be simultaneously on *both* nets if you use ircII. Try
     the command:
                   /window new server servername
     where servername is the name of a server on the other net. This will
     split your screen into two windows, with each window on different
     servers. If you specify a server on a different net, then you will be
     on different nets. You can use Ctrl-x p  (hit ctrl-x, release, then
     hit p) to flip between windows. (if that doesn't work, you may try
     /window goto 1 and  /window goto 2) Type /help window   to get more
     extensive help.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-10) Who are the Undernet programmers?

     The Undernet programming team has many members - all of them very
     enthusiastic and deeply dedicated to the cause. Here's a brief
     description of what each person does/codes/maintains:

     * Run ([email protected]) - Our magic ircd programmer. He
       coded the foll. important patches:
        o TSpre8    o ANC    o bquiet   o silence
       In addition, Run also maintains Undernet's automatic Router. He
       also coded Underworld.nl, a backup for Uworld.

     * WildThang ([email protected]) - Our magic "user services"
       programmer. Wildthang is the coder for Uworld, Murc, quick
       ircIIhelp, and telnet client services. The Undernet hosts the
       world's first MURC (Join #waste on the Undernet to find out what
       a murc is :). Wildthang's also the coder for the gateway service ||.

     * SIO ([email protected]) - Coder for the Undernet Nickserv. Also
       coded the ban, topic and signon info patches which are found with
       the .mu versions of the server.

     * hop ([email protected]) - Our magic ircII client enhancer. Hop
       has done an extensive facelift to current ircII versions. His latest
       version was ircII2.3.17+10.4. The UPDATES file which reflect new
       additions to the client is 500 lines in size! You can ftp this from
       ftp2.undernet.org under /irc/clients

     * Mmmm ([email protected]) - He's responsible for
       maintaining the auto-magic ircII install on sci.dixie.edu. He also
       codes and maintains the smallirc client, and does minor  ircd
       patches and releases.

     * Karll ([email protected]) - Multipurpose programmer. He has
       coded useful routines for both ircd as well as hop's client.

     * Tonto ([email protected]) - He was the author of the gateway service
       'ul'. He's also done some ircd programming for the Undernet.

     * Cym/Kev/Ensor/flux/dl/President/S_Avatar/TheJester/epa/Snarf - these
       are our other programmers who have chipped in useful things from
       time to time.

     * Seks - He's the author of the famous channel service X/W. 'nuff said.

     * All other members of the coder-com mailing list.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-11) What does the future hold for the Undernet?

     All of us envisage a bright future for the Undernet. Userbase has
     been slowly rising. So has the stability of servers in general.
     More and more improvements have been done to the protocol in
     general, and have proven successful.

     Given the surprising success of the Undernet, many attempts have
     been made to imitate it in the form of other nets. Other nets such
     as the Lamenet, 3l33tnet, IAOnet, dalnet, idealnet, etc sprung up in
     recent years.  None of these however have exhibited the originality of
     ideas or creativity  shown by innovative Undernet programmers.
     A famous saying goes: "Imitation is the best form of flattery".

     We hope that you will take time to visit us on the Undernet, and
     share in its bright future. The final goal of Undernet ircd
     programmers is to eliminate or minimize all problems that plague
     the current EFnet. The journey has just begun....

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Section IV: The Undernet (How can you participate?)
=================================================

4-1)  So, how do I get to be an "IRC op"? Why can't I be one?

     The Undernet admins do not give ops to people who *ask* for them.
     If you participate in the net by helping people, and in general
     following proper Undernetiquette, you might merit attention and
     your name may be suggested on the wastelanders mailing list. IRC
     ops are scrutinized carefully before being added. Basically, no
     ops are handed out to people who (i) are hardly around or (ii)
     ignore pleas for help or (iii) want ops just for kill power or
     (iv) want ops because it gives them a sense of "power" over other
     users, and to look "cool". Remember, asking for ops only makes your
     case *worse*. If you're worthy, and other feel that you're competent
     enough, you'll be approached to volunteer for oper. IRC ops are
     expected to have been on IRC for a long time, and must possess an
     adequate amount of knowledge to help Undernet users. They are also
     responsible for keeping servers connected and abiding by the general
     guidelines of the Undernet.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4-2)  How do I apply for a link for my server to the Undernet? What are the
     requirements?

     At the time of writing this document, the Undernet will not consider
     any more links unless you're situated in an exceptionally good
     location (read "one hop off the T3 backbone in the US, or other
     equivalent backbone networks in Europe/elsewhere"). Use traceroute
     and ping to determine your location. If you feel you are eligible
     for a link, read the files in the /irc/newlinks directory at ftp.
     undernet.org. Post your proposal to the wastelanders mailing list
     - [email protected]. Remember, all Undernet servers *must*
     run with the approval of the system admin at that site. If you do not
     receive a response within a week, you can safely assume that the
     Undernet cannot provide you links (though usually, a response, either
     positive or negative will be sent). For a more elaborate discussion,
     you may join #wasteland and talk to other IRC admins to discuss your
     proposal.

     *NEW* -> With the formation of committees on the Undernet, the
     Routing/Servers Committee handles all routing/link decisions. Make
     sure you send a copy of the newlink document to [email protected]
     as well.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4-3)  How do I volunteer to do some work for the Undernet? No, I'm not
     looking for an O line.  I just like being nice and helpful to people.
     How do I participate?

     The Undernet is *always* looking for people like you. We are always
     short of volunteers to help other people. Have you benefitted from
     your experience with the Undernet? Have you enjoyed your time on
     IRC here? We encourage you to give back to the net what you got from
     it. You are encouraged to help. Even if you lurk around on #wasteland
     and familiarize yourself with frequently asked questions on the
     channel, and their answers, it would take a BIG load off many of the
     operators who were quite selflessly devoted to helping you, when you
     started off. You can join the wastelanders mailing list (mail
     [email protected] or [email protected] with the
     word "help" in the body for information on how to subscribe). Please
     do what you can. Every little bit counts!

     *NEW* -> The Undernet has set up a Users' Committee to receive
     input from users like yourself. To subscribe to the mailing list,
     send mail to [email protected] with "subscribe user-com"
     in the body. The URL on the World Wide Web for the User Committee
     home page is http://aslan.pr.mala.bc.ca/~warren/usercom.html

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4-4)  I have some ideas for the future design of ircd. I may also be
     interested in doing some programming for the Undernet. Whom do I
     approach?

     The Undernet is always on the search of new solutions to existing
     problems. If you think you can help us in this endeavour, welcome
     aboard! Subscribe to the wastelanders mailing list (send mail to
     [email protected] with "subscribe wastelanders" in the body)
     and tell us about your ideas. After a period of discussion, and
     depending upon everyone's views, we may give you the "go ahead"
     to program it! Yes, watch *your* code being run on servers around
     the world, with your name in our acknowledgements. The Undernet
     programming team is a tightly knit set of enthusiastic individuals.
     Feel free to participate.

     *NEW* -> The Undernet has set up an ircd coders' committee. To
     subscribe to the mailing list, send mail to [email protected]
     with "subscribe coder-com" in the body.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
=================

* First off, to Jarkko Oikarinen (WiZ) for this wonderful invention.
* To the telnet site maintainers at bradenville where I first accessed irc.
* To the ircII coders (Mike Sandrof, Troy Rollo, Matthew Green, Ian
 Frechette, Jeremy Nelson).
* To Run for his magic improvements to Undernet ircd.
* To Wildthang (Danny) for his advice as a friend and as an awesome
 Undernet irc services programmer.
* To Fizzy (Adrian Hall) for the impetus he lent to the Undernet.
* To TikTok (Donna) who's gonna bear the misery of proofing this.
* To all wastelanders/Undernetters for helpful tips and comments.
* Thanks to all others who have helped me in this faq - you are too
 numerous to mention - you know who you are.
* Thanks also to my critics and enemies. Without your existence, I
 wouldn't have had the inspiration to go on.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
REFERENCES
==========

* The ircII help pages.
* RFC1459
* IRCprimer by Nicholas Pioch.
* alt.irc FAQ by Helen Trillian Rose Davis.

- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

APPENDIX: The Undernet Server List
==================================


Updated:  1st June 1996

- - ----------------------
Explanation of entries
- - ----------------------
 line  1: server name and port number
 line  2: machine name and IP numeric
 line  3: location

- - --------------------
Undernet server list
======================

NORTH AMERICA (Although the default port is 6667, for faster access,
=============  try ports 6660-6669)

CANADA
- - ------
 server: Montreal.QU.CA.undernet.org 6667
machine: aiken.info.polymtl.ca 132.207.4.32
location: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Vancouver.BC.CA.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.direct.ca 199.60.229.15
location: Internet Direct, Vancouver, Canada
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Toronto.ON.CA.undernet.org 6667
machine: oceanus.magic.ca 199.166.230.99
location: Magic Online Services, Toronto, Canada
  admin: [email protected]

USA
- - ---
 server: Norman-r.OK.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: shiloh.nssl.ou.edu 129.15.67.10
location: University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Washington.DC.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc01.irc.aol.com  152.163.173.25
location: America On-Line, Washington DC, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Ann-Arbor.MI.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.cic.net 192.131.22.80
location: CICnet, Ann-Arbor, Michigan, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Chicago.IL.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: tau.wwa.com 198.49.174.36
location: Chicago, Illinois, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Chicago-1.IL.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: raptor.ais.net 199.0.154.14
location: Chicago, Illinois, USA
  admin: [email protected], [email protected]

 server: Phoenix.AZ.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: home.amug.org 204.62.193.83
location: Arizona Macintosh Users' Group, Phoenix, Arizona, USA
  admin: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

 server: Lowell.MA.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: chatter-s2.nis.newscorp.com 206.15.106.129
location: MCI/NewsCorp. Internet Ventures, Lowell, Massachusetts, USA.
  admin: [email protected]

 server: okc.ok.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: apache.wildstar.net 206.103.114.11
location: Wildstar Internet, Oklahoma city, Oklahoma, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Sandiego.CA.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.connectnet.com 207.110.0.52
location: Connectnet Internet services, Sandiego, California, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: StLouis.MO.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: ultra.i1.net 205.216.202.17
location: Internet 1st Inc., St. Louis, Missouri, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Dallas.TX.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: external.csac.net 204.75.137.18
location: Dallas Metroplex, Dallas, Texas, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Springfield.MO.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: spica.getonthe.net 204.71.96.187
location: Ozark Net, Springfield, Missouri, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Saltlake.UT.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.aros.net 205.164.111.16
location: ArosNet IRC server, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Los-Angeles.CA.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.decade.net 198.245.24.80
location: Decade Communications Inc., Los Angeles, California, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Rockhill.SC.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.cetlink.net 206.31.104.10
location: Cetlink, Rockhill, South Carolina, USA.
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Baltimore.MD.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.abs.net 207.114.0.144
location: ABSnet, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Des-Moines.IA.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: ins6.netins.net 167.142.225.6
location: Iowa Network Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA.
  admin: [email protected]

 server: LasVegas.NV.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.wizard.com 199.171.28.9
location: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA.
  admin: [email protected]

 server: NewBrunswick.NJ.US.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc2.worldnet.att.net 204.127.145.17
location: AT&T Worldnet, New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA.
  admin: [email protected]

EUROPE
=======

 server: Caen.FR.EU.undernet.org 7000
machine: ns.ensicaen.ismra.fr 192.93.101.16
location: Ecole Nationale Superieure d'Ingenieurs de Caen, France
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Amsterdam.NL.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: veer.cs.vu.nl 130.37.24.9
location: Vrije Universitet, Amsterdam, Netherlands
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Diemen.NL.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: irc.pi.net 145.220.3.40
location: Planet Internet, Diemen, Netherlands
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Almere.NL.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: londen.tip.nl 195.18.64.100
location: Internet Plaza, Almere, Netherlands.
  admin: [email protected]

 server: London.UK.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: telebsd.aladdin.co.uk 193.119.122.98
Location: Aladdin Internet, London, UK
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Lulea.SE.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: buddy.ludd.luth.se 130.240.16.36
Location: Lulea Academic Computer Society, Lulea, Sweden
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Oslo.NO.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: galgeberg.sn.no 194.143.8.106
Location: Schibsted Nett AS, Oslo, Norway
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Antwerpen.BE.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: antwerpen.planetinternet.be 194.119.232.3
Location: Planet Internet, Vlaanderen, Belgium
  admin: [email protected], [email protected]

 server: Regensburg.DE.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: rrws37.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de 132.199.121.37
Location: Regensburg, Germany.
  admin: [email protected]

 server: Goettingen.DE.EU.undernet.org 6667
machine: alaska.mdv.gwdg.de 134.76.112.2
Location: Goettingen, Germany.
  admin: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]


AUSTRALIA (accessible only within *.au)
=========
 server: Wollongong.NSW.AU.undernet.org 6667
machine: paladin.its.uow.edu.au 130.130.68.10
location: U of Wollongong, Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong, Australia
  admin: [email protected]

NEW ZEALAND
===========
 server: auckland.nz.undernet.org 6667
machine: iconz.co.nz 202.14.100.2
location: Internet Company of New Zealand, Auckland, New Zealand.
  admin: [email protected]

TEST SERVERS / SERVICES
=======================
Delft2.NL.EU.undernet.org
washington-1.dc.us.undernet.org
Uworld.undernet.org
Underworld.nl
undernet.org  (Nickserv)
Fantasy.Worlds.Murc.undernet.org  (Murc)
Router.nl.eu.undernet.org  (Router)
channels.undernet.org (X)


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