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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about Clothing for Big Folks: Europe

This document contains information about clothing for fat people in
Europe, excluding the UK, which has its separate FAQ. If you don't
find
what you're looking for here, try one of the related FAQs (see
question
F1 for a complete list).
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Changes from last version:
Added addresses for several stores located in Norway. See section B3.
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Contents

SECTION A: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the Netherlands
A1) How do I convert between sizes?
A2) Where can I find clothing catalogues in the Netherlands?
Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women
Part 2) Unisex or miscellaneous clothing catalogues
A3) Where can I shop for clothes?
Part 1) Retail clothing for women
Part 2) Retail clothing for men
A4) Where can I find bridal wear?
A5) Where can I find sewing/knitting patterns?

SECTION B: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Norway
B1) How do I convert between sizes?
B2) Where can I find clothing catalogues?
Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women
B3) Where can I shop for clothes?
Part 1) Retail clothing for women
Part 2) Retail clothing for men

SECTION C: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Sweden
C1) How do I know what size I am, and how do I convert between sizes?
C2) Where can I find clothing catalogues?
Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women
C3) Where can I shop for clothes?
Part 1) Retail clothing for women

SECTION D: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the rest of Europe
D1) How do I convert between sizes?
D2) Where can I find clothing in the rest of Europe?

SECTION E: European Web Pages about clothing for big folks

SECTION F: Information about this FAQ
F1) Are there other related FAQs?
F2) Posting information
F3) Availability of the FAQ
F4) Contributors

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SECTION A: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the Netherlands

A1) How do I convert between sizes?

Here are some conversions between general European, UK, and US sizes:

Women's dresses and suits
UK size is 2 more than US
European size is 30 more than US
i.e., UK 28 = US 26 = Euro 56

Women's shoes
UK sizes are 1.5 less than US
i.e., UK 8 = US 9.5

Men's suits and coats
UK sizes are the same as US
European sizes are 10 more than US/UK
i.e., UK 56 = US 56 = Euro 66

Men's shirts
UK sizes are the same as US
i.e., UK 20 = US 20

Men's socks
UK sizes are the same as US
i.e., UK 10.5 = US 10.5

Men's shoes
UK sizes are 1 less than US
i.e., UK 10.5 = US 11.5

For better guidelines, here are the measurements for women's sizes in
the Netherlands (all measurements in cm). If your figures differ,
please
pass them on to the FAQ maintainer.

Women's Sizes
Sizes 40 42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56 58

BUST 91 96 100 104 110 116 122 128 134 140
HIP 99 102 105 109 114 120 126 132 138 144
WAIST 75 78 81 85 90 96 102 108 114 120

These are the sizes for normal length women (1.64m). There is also
a set of sizes for short women (under 1.60m) and tall women (unknown).
These are derived from the normal length sizes by dividing by 2
(short)
or multiplying by 2 (tall). Thus a short woman, having the
measurements
of size 52 above would actually have size 26. Some catalogues
cater to short women, and there are sewing patterns for both
short and tall women available.

Bra sizes:
1) Measure around the body directly under the bust. Round the number
to the nearest multiple of 5. This is your bra size.
2) Measure around the fullest part of your bust.
The difference between 2) and your bra size is your cup size.

CUP SIZE AA A B C D DD E F FF G
10-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-30

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A2) Where can I find clothing catalogues in the Netherlands?

Also check the list of shops. Some of them do mail order.
Note that the country telephone code for the Netherlands is 31.

Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women

Ulla Popken BV
Ginnekenstraat 141, 4811 JG Breda
Telephone: 076 - 20 88 21 (mo-fr 8.00-16.30 live, else
machine)
Fax: 076 - 20 94 92
URL: http://www.ullapopken.com/UllaPopken/WorldWide.asp
Sizes: 42 to 56, some models up to 60
bra's C to F cups
(also several shops in the Netherlands, and Germany, Austria
and
Switzerland, see the URL for complete listings)

Part 2) Unisex or miscellaneous clothing catalogues

Wehkamp BV
Postbus 400, 8000 AK Zwolle
Antwoordnummer 600, 8000 XD Zwolle (ordering only, free)
Telephone: 038-264777 (Customer Services)
06-0606 (Free calling, computer ordering only)
038-264264 (ordering only, mo-fr 8.30-21.00
and sa-su 9.00-17.00 live, else computer)
Fax: 038-264830
Sizes: women's 34-60, men's 44-62, bra's AA to G cups

Otto BV
Postbus 90200, 5000 LX Tilburg
Antwoordnummer 5000, 5005 AA Tilburg (ordering only, free)
Telephone: 013-666666 (mo-su 0.00-24.00)
Fax: 013-651565
Sizes: women's 32-62, men's 40-62, bra's A to F cups

Neckermann Nederland BV
Antwoordnummer 28, 4530 VB Terneuzen (free)
Telephone: 01150-40044 (information, mo-fr 9.00-17.00)
01150-40000 (ordering only)
06-0688 (free, computer)
Fax: 01150-40640
Sizes: women's 32-62, men's 40-62, bra's A to F cups

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A3) Where can I shop for clothes?

Note that the country telephone code for the Netherlands is 31.

Part 1) Retail clothing for women

BB Fashions
Noorderhagen 66 c
7511 EM Enschede
tel. 053-4314649
lingerie and clothing

Big Size Fashion
Zuidhoek 214 b
3082 PR Rotterdam
tel. 010-4293466
fax. 010-4295046
stocks luxury lingerie for women (also for transvestites &
transexuals)

Christina mode in grote maten
Walstraat 37
7411 GJ Deventer
tel. 0570-612527
fax. 0570-610955
women's clothing, ranging from casual to well-dressed

Gran Diva
Veerplein 19
Zwijndrecht
tel. 078-6123377
young clothing

Part 2) Retail clothing for men

Club Languit
Laanstraat 83
Baarn
tel. 035 5418665
en
Troelstraplein 14
Meppel,
tel. 052 253683
specializes in clothing for tall and fat men;
jeans up to 62", shirts up to collar 54, jackets up to 70,
underwear up to 14; medium priced
http://www.worldaccess.nl/~clublang/index.htm

G&G Special sizes
Brugstraat 22
9711 HZ Groningen
The Netherlands
tel. +31 50 3121675

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A4) Where can I find bridal wear?

Most bridal shops do made-to-measure bridal wear in all sizes.

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A5) Where can I find sewing/knitting patterns?

Burda Patterns has a magazine for full-figured women,
sizes 44 - 60 and 22-26 (thus short)
This is also available in Belgium and Germany.

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SECTION B: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Norway

B1) How do I convert between sizes?

Sizings are European (see section A1).

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B2) Where can I find clothing catalogues?

Note that 47 is the country code for Norway.

Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women

Ellos AS
Postboks 210
1411 Kolbotn
tel. 66 99 75 00
fax. 66 99 75 99
clothing sizes 36-56, lingerie 36-58
(though not all clothing past size 46-48)

Miss Mary of Sweden
Postordre Nytt AS
Postboks 57
1751 Halden
tel. 69 18 21 00
fax. 69 18 45 45
clothing, lingerie and swimsuits sizes 38-60

B3) Where can I shop for clothes?

Note that 47 is the country code for Norway.

Part 1) Retail clothing for women

BiB Fashion
Grev Wedelsg. 4B
3111 Toensberg
tel.33 31 47 70
sizes 42-56

Big Lady
Skippergt. 23
0154 Oslo
tel. (+47) 22 41 34 51
sizes 44-56

Boutiqe XL
Storgt. 4
1531 Moss
tel. 69 25 77 37
sizes 42-56

Cappuccino
Xkernveien 145 (Xkern Senter)
sizes 36-60

Chic Stor Mote
Gyldeloevegt. 1D
4611 Kristiansand
tel. 38 02 01 80
sizes 42-56

Cinderella
Storgt. 23
2800 Gjoevik
tel. 61 17 56 66
sizes 42-56

Dominique
Gml. Ringeriks vei 37
Bekkestua
67 53 51 14
Sizes 40-60.

Erica Design
Hollendergt. 5
5017 Bergen
tel. 55 23 23 49
sizes 42-56

Gerd's Stor Mote
Bogstadv. 11
0355 Oslo
tel. 22 46 62 20
and also
Romerikssenteret
2040 Kloefta
tel. 63 98 21 28
sizes 42-56

Hanne's Mote
Kongegt. 29
3256 Larvik
tel. 33 18 21 70
sizes 42-56

H&M (chain store)--Oslo
Oslo City
Aker Brygge
Karl Johan
Storo Shopping
Bogstadveien
sizes 38-54/56

KappAhl (chain store)--Oslo
Grensen 3
Oslo City
sizes 42-56
underclothes to 105E

Karma
Markedsgt: 17
8450 Stokmarknes
tel. 76 15 26 80
sizes 42-56

Lady Large
Storgt. 112
3921 Porsgrunn
tel. 35 55 90 20
sizes 42-56

LaLina
Waldemar Thranesgt. 22
0171 Oslo
tel. 22 60 03 80
Lingerie, with Bras Cup A-H
Other sizes 36-58

Lindex/Generous (chain store)--located in Oslo

Bogstadveien 40/42
Erich Mogensxnsv. 38
Karl Johans gt. 27
Storg. 2
Oslo City
Stranden 3 (Aker Brygge)
Stovner Senter 3
sizes 46-52

Marina Rinaldi
Karl Johans gt. 37/41 (Paleet)
Oslo
sizes 38-52

Maxiline
Storgt. 9
6002 Aalesund
tel. 70 13 22 00
sizes 42-56

Mona Lisa
Olav Tryggvasonsgt. 21
7011 Trondheim
tel. 73 92 94 55
sizes 42-56

Monzu'si
Trondhjemsvn. 275
0589 Oslo
tel. 22 72 22 00
sizes 36-58

Pip Stormote
Gamle Stokkav. 1
4300 Sandnes
tel. 51 63 11 61
and also
Oestervaag 9
4013 Stavanger
tel. 51 89 35 55
sizes 42-56

Piraten
Akersgt. 32
0180 Oslo
tel. 22 42 70 91
This one is special. No sizes, just a section with big
clothes
for "big girls". The style is more "alternative", the
stock
consists of skirts and dresses and unisex shirts. The
owner
claims that Pavarotti bought a shirt last time he visited
Oslo!
And not too expensive. Note: I recently went into Piraten.
While I
liked the unique clothes, the nicest outfits were only
offered in
the smaller sizes (approx. size 12). Most of the clothing
offered
for larger sizes were nothing more than shapeless garments
and very
unflattering.

Stort og Flott
Smauet
6800 Foerde
tel. 57 82 00 17
sizes 42-56

Unik
Broetergt. 1
2000 Lillestroem
tel. 63 81 00 94
and also
Oevre Torggt. 3
3017 Drammen
tel. 32 89 45 90
sizes 38-54

Youngs Mote

Youngstorget 1
Oslo
sizes 36-54

Part 2) Retail clothing for men

Dressman/Mr. Big
Storgaten 26
Oslo
sizes to 72

Follestad & Co
Storgt. 28
0184 Oslo
tel. 22 17 36 36
sizes 44-74

Herremagasinet
Storg. 28
Oslo
sizes 44-72
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SECTION C: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Sweden

See also Section E.

C1) How do I know what size I am, and how do I convert between sizes?

Sizings are European (see section A1).

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C2) Where can I find clothing catalogues?

Note that 46 is the country code for Sweden.

Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women

Ellos Ab .
501 86 Boras
tel. 033-33 000
clothing sizes 36-56, lingerie 36-58

Miss Mary of Sweden
Box 44038
.
506 02 Boras
tel. 033-13 72 05
fax. 033-13 40 30
clothing, lingerie and swimsuits sizes 38-60

C3) Where can I shop for clothes?

Part 1) Retail clothing for women

Asico AB
(Lillhagsv"agen 50)
Box 2021
422 43 Hisings-Backa (G"oteborg)
tel. 031-51 87 40

Bella Grande AB
G"otgatan 99
111 62 Stockholm
tel. 08-641 02 57

Berit P.
"Ostra Hamngatan 50A
411 09 G"oteborg
tel. 031-711 56 11

Big Chic
(Fr"olunda Torg)
Box 47
421 44 V"astra Fr"olunda (G"oteborg)
tel. 031 49 70 70

Classy AB
"Ostergatan 2
211 25 Malm"o
tel. 040-30 32 80

Domani Designers
Luntmakaregatan 54
111 37 Stockholm
tel. 08-19 96 54

Eja's XL Mode
("Ostra Torggatan 19)
Box 64
651 03 Karlstad
tel. 054-21 77 74

E'nemesis
Storgatan 44
.
573 32 Tranas
tel. 0140-530 10
fax 0140-530 11

Extra Large Butik
Landsv"agsgatan 4
413 04 G"oteborg
tel. 031-701 00 60

. .
Inte sa smatt
Storgatan 29
272 32 Simrishamn
tel. 0414-148 58

Madame Chic
Kaggensgatan 32
392 32 Kalmar
tel. 0480-234 30

Max-Elle
Kyttgatan 23
811 30 Sandviken
tel. 026-25 29 02

Mulligt & Gulligt
Brytaregatan 15
981 34 Kiruna
tel. 0980-193 51

NK Dam avd. collection plus
"Ostra Hamngatan 42
G"oteborg
tel. 031-10 72 55
sizes 42-52 knitwear and tricot

Robusta i Ronneby
Karlskronagatan 9
372 30 Ronneby
tel. 0457-158 20

Rund & Rosig
Tullportsgatan 7D
761 30 Norrt"alje
tel. 0176-239 02

Stinas kl"adbutik
Svedbergsgatan 11
913 31 Holmsund
tel. 090-17 91 21

Storartat Boutique
H"otorget 1
.
502 32 Boras
tel. 033-41 96 70

XELLE
Alstr"omersgatan 24
541 31 Sk"ovide
tel. 0500-41 38 04

Nya Stadens Torg 1
531 31 Lidk"oping
tel. 0519-286 40

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SECTION D: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the rest of Europe

D1) How do I convert between sizes?

See section A1.

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D2) Where can I find clothing in the rest of Europe?

Not many items in this section so far, please send any other
information
you might have. You might also want to check the lists for the
Netherlands.
Some chains of shops occur across continental Europe, for example Ulla
Popken
(see Section E for URL with complete worldwide store listings).
Also Burda sewing patterns are available in Belgium and Germany.

Drim
Dendermondsesteenweg 1a
Aalst
Belgium
ladies fashions sizes 40-54, including French designers
Gerard Pasquier, Weinberg, Eva Negri, Mary West, Umberto,
Monza...

High and Mighty
Continental Office, Bahnstrasse 40, 40210 Dusseldorf,
Deutschland.
Vox: +49 211 131135
Fax: +49 211 124125
Chain for men's clothing found in the U.K., Germany, Holland,
and Belgium.

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SECTION E: European Web Pages about clothing for big folks

A Finnish page, "Fashion Fit Patterns" provides a service for patterns
created by computer to fit any size. You can send off for information
by email or post. The URL is

http://www.finhost.fi/fashion/fashion.htm

A Swedish page, maintained by "Overviktigas Riksf"orbund (The Swedish
Association of Overweight People) of large-size clothing shops is

http://www.overvikt.se/index.html

This is the page for Marin Mode, a manufacturer of ladies plus size
clothing in the Natherlands. They supply main stores in the
Netherlands
and elsewhere in Europe, and also have the occasional bargain offer
sold directly from their web site.

http://www.etrade.nl/marin_mode

Ulla Popken has women's clothing sizes 12 and up; there are many shops
in Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and Belgium. You can
also order a catalogue online.

http://www.ullapopken.com/UllaPopken/WorldWide.asp

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SECTION F: Information about this FAQ

F1) Are there other related FAQs?

Yes. The list of them below can be found from the following page:

http://www.sover.net/~astarte/fa/faqs.html

fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/canada
information about clothing for large people in Canada
fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/uk
information about clothing for large people in the UK
fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/us
information about clothing for large people in the US
fat-acceptance-faq/health
information about health issues affecting large people
fat-acceptance-faq/research
information about research concerning large people
fat-acceptance-faq/maternity
information about large-size maternity resources
fat-acceptance-faq/sports
information about resources for sports and activities
for large people
fat-acceptance-faq/fitness
information about resources for fitness for large people
fat-acceptance-faq/organizations
information about organizations for large people
fat-acceptance-faq/resources
information about resources for large people (that aren't
covered in the other resources FAQs)
fat-acceptance-faq/physical
information about resources for dealing with the physical
aspects of being large
fat-acceptance-faq/publications
information about publications for large people
fat-acceptance-faq/size-acceptance
information about size-acceptance
big-folks-faq
general information file for alt.support.big-folks

There is some overlap in the topics covered by the FAQs. If you don't
find what you're looking for here, try the other FAQs.

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F2) Posting information

This document is posted monthly to news.answers, alt.answers and
soc.answers, and posted bi-weekly to alt.support.big-folks and
soc.support.fat-acceptance.
Alexandra Nielsen ([email protected]) maintains this FAQ.

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F3) Availability of the FAQ

All FAQs posted to news.answers are archived at rtfm.mit.edu and its
mirror sites. You can get any of these FAQs from rtfm.mit.edu via
anonymous FTP or via the mail archive server. (To get information
about the mail server, send email to [email protected] with the
body of the message containing the word "help", without the quotes.)
FAQs posted to news.answers are also available on the Web from:

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html

This particular FAQ is archived at rtfm.mit.edu and its mirror sites
under the filenames:

/pub/usenet/news.answers/fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe
/pub/usenet/soc.answers/fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe
/pub/usenet/soc.support.fat-acceptance/

Big_Folks_Clothing_Europe_Frequently_Asked_Questions_(FAQ)

It is available on the Web at:

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/
faq/usenet/fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe/faq.html

although the latest version specifically adapted for HTML and
maintained
by the maintainer can be found at

http://home.sol.no/~geirerni/Alexandra/faq_europe.htm

The file Big_Folks_Clothing_Europe_Frequently_Asked_Questions_(FAQ)
contains the last post to soc.support.fat-acceptance which has the
same subject
line as this FAQ. In general, this is the most recent copy of the
FAQ.
Occasionally, however, it is a random post that has the same subject
line as this FAQ. If this is the case, please look in one of the
other files.

The files named europe and the file available via the WWW,
contain the last version of the FAQ posted to news.answers. Since
this FAQ is posted to alt.support.big-folks and
soc.support.fat-acceptance
more often than it is posted to news.answers, sometimes the version
available via these links is not the most recent one.

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F4) Contributors

These are the people who have contributed significant chunks to this
FAQ.

Sharon Curtis ([email protected])
Elly Jeurissen ([email protected])
Birgitta Szanday ([email protected])
Anders Stigo ([email protected])

Also, lots and lots of other people (too many to credit) contributed
information that appears herein, some via email and some on a.s.b-f.
Thanks to them all.

Suggestions for additions/improvements are always welcome.
If you have information you think should be here (either in response
to an existing question or in response to a new question), send it to
the maintainers. If you think another question should be addressed
here, and you do not have the information for it, post the question to
s.s.f-a and drop a note to the maintainers suggesting that it be in
the FAQ. Also, please let us know if any of this material is
incorrect or out-of-date.

In particular, if you have new information about clothing in other
countries, please send it to the maintainers. We would be very happy
to update this information to include more countries.

Copyright 1998 by Alexandra Nielsen ([email protected]).
Permission is granted to copy and redistribute this article in its
entirety for non-commercial use provided that this copyright notice is
not removed or altered. No portion of this work may be sold, either
by itself or as part of a larger work, without the express written
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