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   INTRODUCTION TO REC.ARTS.EROTICA AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
                     [ Last changed: July 25, 1995 ]

CREDITS
Originally by: Evan Leibovich ([email protected])
Later by: Tim Pierce ([email protected])
Now maintained by: Discord ([email protected])


Copyright 1995 by Discord.  Permission is granted to copy and
redistribute this document electronically provided that it remains
complete and unmodified.  CD publishers take note: this does not
include you.

This FAQ has been substantially rewritten as of 06/10/95, upon my
taking over from Tim Pierce as moderator for the group.  While I feel
that Tim's policies were well thought out and wise, and am keeping many
of them, I felt the FAQ needed a good overhaul, and I will be making
some changes.

For the most up-to-date copy of this FAQ, send mail to
[email protected] with the subject "FAQ".  The FAQ will be
placed on the Web very shortly.  You can also retrieve the most recently
posted version of the FAQ via ftp from MIT or one of its mirrors:
ftp rtfm.mit.edu /pub/usenet/news.answers/erotica.faq
or via the FAQ archive on the Web at:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/FAQ-List.html

Moderator of rec.arts.erotica: Discord ([email protected]).
Backup moderator: Michael Handler ([email protected]).

Contents-list:

 Q: What's rec.arts.erotica all about, anyhow?
 Q: What will happen if I post to rec.arts.erotica?
 Q: What do you base your reviews on?
 Q: What types of stories will be rejected?
 Q: What are the guidelines for violent posts?
 Q: What should I include in my submission?
 Q: Do you ever edit or modify submissions before approving them?
 Q: What if my submission is rejected?
 Q: Can I post anonymously?
 Q: Can you please cancel my last post?
 Q: There's never anything in this group but this FAQ.  What's wrong?
 Q: How do I subscribe to this group?/How do I get hot stories sent to
    me? (And other such questions.)
 Q: Can I get rec.arts.erotica via e-mail?
 Q: Is there a publicly-accessible site which archives this group?
 Q: Where can I get sexy GIFs?
 Q: What do you do with non-story mail?


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Q: What's rec.arts.erotica all about, anyhow?
[kept from last version, unchanged]

 This news group is intended to be a low-volume, noise-free
 environment in which to find erotic literature, and pointers of
 where to find other erotic materials.  It is here for the enjoyment
 of the Usenet community and no other reason.

 Original submissions, and works either released into the public
 domain, or copyrighted but without restriction of distribution, are
 welcome.

 There aren't many rules here, but there are some. I don't think
 they're too outlandish, and I'm always open to change if some policy
 is too restrictive.  But your reasons had better be good...

 If you have suggestions or problems regarding the answers that
 follow, please write me.  Posting to the newsgroup should also work,
 because most news systems automatically mail posts to moderated
 groups (such as rec.arts.erotica) to the moderator's mailbox.

 Do not post or mail requests for stories of names of archive sites.
 Such requests will go ignored.

------------------------------
Q: What will happen if I post to rec.arts.erotica?
[kept from last version, virtually unchanged]

 For information on canceling articles that have already been
 posted, please see below.

 First, your post will be sent to me automatically via e-mail, so
 that I can review it.  Therefore, don't expect your post to show up
 within a few minutes after being composed.  It'll have to wait until
 the next time I log on and have time to review new submissions.  If
 traffic is high, this might be more than a few days (and has taken
 two weeks or more in the past).

 Next, I check it over for acceptability (see below).  If your
 submission meets all of the guidelines required of rec.arts.erotica
 postings, I will "approve" it and have it posted to the newsgroup.
 I will also save a copy of your post in the rec.arts.erotica
 archives.  Please note that by submitting to this newsgroup, you are
 implicitly granting permission for your work to be archived here and
 at any other archive of rec.arts.erotica that someone might be
 maintaining.

 Before approving a submission, however, I will add a Keywords header
 line to your submission containing a list of the topics explored
 therein.  This permits people who are either strongly interested or
 strongly disinterested in particular topics to determine quickly
 whether they will find your post interesting.

 The following keywords are used to describe a post's content:

   admin:     administrative announcements, indexes of stories, etc.
   anal:      anal penetration/fisting
   animal:    bestiality and animals
   annc:      announcements other than administrative: freeware, etc.
   bond:      bondage (physical restraint)
   fdom:      domination by females
   f-solo:    female masturbation and other solitary activities
   ff:        female-female contact
   furry:     sentient non-human characters (e.g. "Journal Entries")
   gothic:    vampires and other Gothic subjects (e.g. "Night Music")
   group:     group sex and threesomes
   heavy:     "heavy" forms of bdsm
   hist:      historical/medieval pieces that do -not- necessarily fall into
              the genre of "speculative fiction"
   humor:     joke posts or amusing stories (e.g. "Barbeque of Doom")
   incest:    incestuous relationships
   m-solo:    male masturbation and other solitary activities
   mc:        mind control
   mdom:      domination by males
   mf:        male-female contact
   mild:      "mild" forms of bdsm
   mm:        male-male contact
   mutual:    mutual masturbation or other non-solo masturbatory depictions
   nc:        non-consensual situations
   oral:      mouth-to-genital contact
   pedo:      pedophilia (pre-pubescent) (e.g. "Misty")
   poem:      poetry
   rape:      rape scenes and other violent non-consensual sexuality
   romance:   heavily romantic pieces
   rough:     rough sex that is consensual but not precisely S&M
   scat:      scatology and coprophilia
   series:    long stories split into sections (e.g. "Marie")
   sexless:   no overt sexual depiction
   sf:        speculative fiction: sci-fi, heavy fantasy, and the like
   sm:        sadism and masochism
   teen:      consensual sex involving teenagers and postpubescents
   tg:        transgendered (all stages)
   tv:        cross-dressing, feminization
   violence:  violent, not (necessarily) sexual/sadistic
   water:     watersports and urophilia

 Before posting an article to rec.arts.erotica, I also add a header
 line entitled "X-Moderator-Review."  This line contains a numeric
 rating which may fall between 1 and 10, and a one-line summary of my
 opinion of the post.  This entire header is purely subjective, and
 may freely be ignored if you do not find it useful.

------------------------------
Q: What do you base your reviews on?

 My opinion, and my opinion only.  Obviously, this isn't necessarily
 going to be your opinion or even -anyone- else's.  However, once you
 read for a while, my reviews and ratings will probably give you a
 rule of thumb to help you scan through the stories, and that is the
 purpose of such a review.

 Some things I particularly look at in a story include:
   * Grammar, spelling, and the like.  If there are minor errors or
     occasional run-on sentences, I'm not going to mind, but major
     flaws ruin a story for me.  [Really poor grammar or spelling
     may get a post rejected.]
   * Dialogue.  Poorly executed dialogue really bugs me.  I'm not
     looking for perfection here, but things like "oh baby, do me
     hard with your throbbing man meat" are going to turn me off,
     turn my stomach, and lower my rating.
   * Continuity.  This one is harder to explain, but I'm basically
     looking for a certain flow to a story.  If it jumps around
     or is somehow choppy, it isn't likely to hold my interest, or
     that of other readers.
   * Realism.  I don't mean "realistic" in the sense that I think
     everything in the story should be real-world possible, I mean
     believable plot lines and situations, and internally consistent
     ones as well.
   * Originality.  This one is very important.  There are only so
     many stories in the world, but it is possible to tell the
     with a fresh outlook.  The fresher the outlook, the more likely
     I am to like the story.  Stories that basically boil down to
     "boy meets girl, boy fucks girl, boy goes home" really aren't
     what I consider original, but if there's good detail involved,
     things that fill in the spaces well, I will think more highly
     of the story.

------------------------------
Q: What types of stories will be rejected?

Stories with formatting, grammar, or spelling that is sufficiently poor
as to make the story difficult to read.  The following things will
probably get your post rejected (taken [mostly] verbatim from the old
version of the FAQ):

 * Screen lines of more than 75 characters.
 * Right-justified margins.  They are good in theory but, when using
   a fixed-width printing medium, make text nearly illegible.
 * Inconsistent (or, worse, consistent) misspellings.  I don't mean
   an occasional misspelling; I'm talking about a great quantity.
 * An embarrassment of ellipses.
 * Paragraphs that continue for more than a screen's worth of text
   (24 lines in most cases).
 * Accidental changes of tense in the middle of a story.
 * Any common grammar mistake that hasn't already been mentioned.

Unlike the old moderator, I am unwilling to correct minor errors in the
spelling or grammar of a story; if they are truly minor, then they go
out the way they came in.  If they are in great quantity, then back the
story goes to the submitter, with a note asking them to please make the
corrections (or send the story elsewhere, if they prefer).

Other types of posts I will reject include:

  * Anything that I do not classify as erotica.  Note that
    "erotica" and "sex" are -not- equivalent terms.
  * Ads, personals, discussion/comments, or other non-story
    postings.  Discussion should be done in alt.sex.stories.d
    (and all stories will have the followup set that that group).
  * Copyrighted work that is not electronically redistributable.
    These stories -are- being archived.
  * Stories about copyrighted or trade-marked characters.
  * Anything submitted from a remailer that does not allow for
    return mail.  [See below for more detail.]
  * Extremely violent stories.  [See below for more detail.]
  * Binaries of any type.
  * Anything that has previously been posted on rec.arts.erotica.
  * Stories containing full names.  If you want to use "Mr. Smith",
    that's fine.  If you want to use "Jean", that's fine.  Using
    "Gertrude Hepstein" is not; it may be fictional, but it may
    not be, and I'm not willing to take that risk.

------------------------------
Q:  What are the guidelines for violent posts?

 Posts in which the violence is either in the form of, for the
 lack of a better phrase, tastefully done rapes is fine.  BDSM
 related stories are also fine; I know those can get fairly
 extreme, and I will post them if there seems to be a -reason-
 for the violence within them.

 However, posts in which there is what I feel to be gratuitous
 violence or non-consensual acts will probably be rejected.

 I realize there is a fine line between these two categories, and
 I may reject something that someone else would find to be perfectly
 valid.  However, I do not wish to argue about rejections made on
 this basis.  If you have a story rejected on these grounds but
 feel it deserves to be posted, you have the option of posting to
 alt.sex.stories, which is unmoderated.

 Some of you may recall that I myself have written BDSM stories
 with, if not extreme by some people's standards, at least fairly
 heavy S&M content.  I think that I can judge what is within the
 bounds of a reasonable part of a story and what is done merely for
 shock value; I don't feel this group needs the latter.

 Also in the category of violent posts are snuff stories.  I realize
 that many people find these to be valid, but I myself do -not-
 consider them to be erotica.  I will not make a prohibition against
 such stories, and I will take them on a case-by-case basis, but
 do not be surprised if you submit a snuff story and I reject it
 based on this guideline.

------------------------------
Q: What should I include in my submission?
[kept nearly unchanged from the previous version]

 Approved postings now carry an "Archive-name" header which is
 parsable by "rkive" and other archive-maintenance software.

 Because of this, it would make my life slightly easier if you
 include *both*:

    * a descriptive Subject line.  Note that "story" and "submission"
      are not what I consider descriptive.

    * a suggestion for a one-word archive name.  The archive name
      should be no longer than 14 characters if possible, and should
      consist only of alphanumeric characters and hyphens.  If you do
      not include an archive name, one will be chosen for you.


------------------------------
Q: Do you ever edit or modify submissions before approving them?

 Aside from adding the review header and keywords, I will not
 be editing posts in any way.

 This is a change from the way Tim Pierce handled the group.

 As I mentioned above regarding grammar and spelling, if there are
 only a few errors, the post will go out the way it is.  I do not
 have any inclination to be a proofreader (at least not for free).
 Adding that to my duties would, I feel, distract me from the main
 purpose of this group, which is to get (reasonably) well-written
 erotica out on the 'net for people to read.

 I -may- make an exception in the case of excessive line length, if
 that is the sole problem with the post.

------------------------------
Q: What if my submission is rejected?
[kept unchanged from previous version]

 An unmoderated newsgroup for erotica, alt.sex.stories, was created
 some time ago.  There are also other newsgroups for posting general
 fiction and verse, such as rec.arts.prose and rec.arts.poems.  If
 your post is rejected from rec.arts.erotica, you may either edit it
 so that it falls within the guidelines for submission and then
 resubmit it, or you may post it directly to one of the above-named
 unmoderated newsgroups.

------------------------------
Q: Can I post anonymously?

 Old readers and posters take note!  This represents a definite
 change from the old policy on this group.

 Any post to rec.arts.erotica must be submitted by someone with
 a valid e-mail address.  This means, I must be able to send a
 piece of mail to the address that is on the post.

 I -will- be allowing submissions from Penet accounts, as well
 as from what I recognize as established sites that allow
 anonymous accounts.  Currently, this means Nyx and the freenets.
 There must be some sort of name connected with the signon, but
 it doesn't have to be a "real" name (i.e., it can be a "handle").

 The remailers where return mail cannot be sent to the poster are
 specifically excluded, in other words.  There needs to be some
 way for return mail to get to you.

 The reason I require these limitations is that, if something in
 in the story is offensive (or worse) to someone, I don't want
 to deal with the flak; all author's are responsible for the
 content of their own stories.  (Critics take note.)

 I will continue to not accept submissions from "root", "guest",
 "news", "postmaster", and the like.

------------------------------
Q: Can you please cancel my last post?
[kept unchanged from previous version]

 I reserve the right to cancel posts which have already been approved
 to rec.arts.erotica, for any reason.  This includes, but is not
 limited to, submissions which violate someone's copyright, which are
 subsequently shown to be reposts of old rec.arts.erotica material,
 or which prove to be intended primarily to harass or humiliate
 another Usenet participant.

 I also reserve the right to refuse to cancel any post which was sent
 somehow in error.  It is your responsibility to check and proofread
 messages before they are sent, to know your local site's policy on
 postings to Usenet, and to understand what it means to have your
 name appear in the header of a post to rec.arts.erotica.  I cannot
 be responsible for such mistakes, and I don't think it's appropriate
 to unnecessarily inconvenience readers of this newsgroup by
 canceling posts that were submitted carelessly.

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Q: There's never anything in this group but this FAQ.  What's wrong?
[kept unchanged from previous version]

 The most likely problem is that although the newsgroup appears on
 your system locally, for some reason some site upstream from you is
 not passing it along.  As a result, you will only receive
 rec.arts.erotica articles which have been cross-posted to newsgroups
 that *are* sent to you.  This FAQ is one such article; it is
 cross-posted to news.answers and rec.answers, among others.

 To solve this problem you will need to speak with your system
 administrator, or with the administrator of a site that feeds you
 news.  I am afraid that I cannot help you further in this.

------------------------------
Q: How do I subscribe to this group?/How do I get hot stories sent to
  me?  (And other such questions.)

 My consultant rates for Unix-related questions are $80/hr, one
 quarter hour minimum, payable in advance for e-mail questions.
 Alternately, you can ask tech support on your local system to
 show you how to subscribe to a newsgroup.

------------------------------
Q: Is there a publicly-accessible site which archives this group?
[kept unchanged from previous version]

    * NOTE: I do not have the time to send individual posts in *
    * the rec.arts.erotica archive to people, nor do I have    *
    * the resources to make the archive available via FTP or   *
    * mail server.  Any requests I receive for reposts, old    *
    * old submissions, or to be subscribed or unsubscribed     *
    * from mailing lists, are likely to be dropped in the bit- *
    * bucket without comment or acknowledgment.               *

 Such archive sites almost certainly do exist, but many do not wish to
 make their existence publicly known because of the crush of archive
 requests which invariably results from such an announcement.  Please
 do not jeopardize the existence of erotica archive sites by posting
 their names.  I will include the name of such a site here only if the
 administrator of the service has given me permission.

 If you manage such an archive site and are willing to announce it
 publicly, please notify me and I will include it in this posting,
 which I hope will be updated from time to time with new information
 of this kind.  If you are willing to *publicly* archive
 rec.arts.erotica but do not have copies of the archives, I will be
 happy to supply you with copies of past submissions.

 NOTE: I am presently attempting to resolve some difficult copyright
 issues with respect to the rec.arts.erotica archives.  Until I have
 finished, I will be unable to send even archivists copies of this
 material.  Please have patience.

 The following archives of rec.arts.erotica have been made known to
 me:

    FTP sites:
      None.  If you manage such a site, please let me know
      so I can include the information in this FAQ.

    Mail Servers:

      * [email protected]

        Send mail to [email protected] with the word "help"
        in the body of the message.  Note that this archive contains
        a variety of erotic texts, but does not presently archive all
        posts to rec.arts.erotica.

      * [email protected]

        Send mail to [email protected] with the Subject
        header "LIST" to get an alphabetical list of available files
        and retrieval instructions.  "LIST-NEW" will return a list of
        files ordered from newest to oldest.  Appending "-SIZE" to
        either of these commands tells the server to include the size
        of each available file as well as its name.

        Follow these instructions *exactly* or it will not work.  If
        you experience problems or confusion, send mail to
        [email protected] and ask for assistance.  Like the hermes
        server above, this one does not presently include everything
        posted to rec.arts.erotica.

        (Note that the name of this machine is "dido," not "dildo."
        For the literary-minded among you, "Dido" was Aeneas's lover.
        Do not send mail to "dildo.fa.indiana.edu" or you will look
        very silly.)

    WWW Servers:

      * http://zeus.genie.uottawa.ca:8000/~lavoie/Stories/erotica/

        This site maintains a partial archive of rec.arts.erotica and
        alt.sex.stories. It indexes the stories by archive name and
        includes an extremely powerful search engine for easy
        retrieval of posts which match particular criteria. For
        questions or problems relating to this service, send mail to
        Philippe Lavoie ([email protected]).

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME MAIL IF YOU EXPERIENCE PROBLEMS WITH THESE
    SERVICES.  I WILL BE UNABLE TO HELP YOU.

 If you are willing to offer your resources to augment any of these
 services, *please* let me know.  I would like to distribute the load
 of archive requests and mailing list subscriptions over as wide a
 base as possible, in order to prevent any single site from becoming
 overwhelmed.

------------------------------
Q: Can I get rec.arts.erotica via e-mail?
[kept unchanged from previous version]

 I do not know of any mailing list reflector of rec.arts.erotica
 currently in operation.  If you administer such a mailing list and
 would like it advertised here, please let me know.

------------------------------
Q: Where can I get sexy GIFs?
[kept unchanged from previous version]

 I haven't a clue.  Nor do I wish to get one, on this subject.

------------------------------
Q: What do you do with non-story mail?

 It depends.  There are several classes non-story mail falls under,
 although I deal with many of them by simply deleting them.

   Anything that is covered elsewhere in this FAQ (such as "how do I
   subscribe" messages): delete unanswered: I will send someone a copy
   of the FAQ if they tell me that they don't have access to the group
   and that's why they are asking; ditto if it's been a while since
   the last time the FAQ has been posted.

   Spammage: ("Make Money Fast" and things I -know- to be posted in
   multiple groups of this nature): delete unanswered, unless it happens
   multiple times, at which point I send a note to them, CC'd to the
   postmaster at their site.

   "I want to get laid" and other similar notes: delete unanswered.

   Ads: I may or may not post an ad.  The decision is based on the topic
   of the ad and just how commercial it comes across.  I'm currently
   debating whether or not to post ads for BBSs.  I may post ads for
   people looking for story submissions to webzines and other, similar
   things.  I do not post ads selling sex; those are dealt with by a
   note to the postmaster of the originating system.

   Discussion-oriented notes: generally, I delete these unanswered when
   it is obvious there was a crosspost to rec.arts.erotica.
   "Discussion" of the "write me for hot chat" type I delete
   unanswered.  Other types of discussion I will respond to with an
   explanation that rec.arts.erotica is not a discussion group.

   GIFs and other images: delete unanswered.

   Questions not covered by the FAQ, or people asking for clarification
   of things in the FAQ: answer as soon as I can.  Sometimes this may
   be a while.  It's likely to take less time if these are directed
   to [email protected].

   Praise or insults: Usually I save the praise and delete the insults,
   and answer neither.  Originally I was going to answer all the
   praise and supportive notes I've gotten, but they numbered, um,
   LOTS.  So, A Generic Thank-You (but nonethless a heartfelt one)
   applies to all those.

 The "delete unanswered" method may seem harsh, but if I took the time
 to answer every single piece of mail asking me a question covered by
 the FAQ, it would defeat the purpose of the FAQ.  The autoreply that
 -every- note gets contains instructions on how to get the FAQ.
--
Moderator, rec.arts.erotica.  Submissions to [email protected].
Administrative mail to [email protected].  Please, no reposts, first drafts,
or requests for "subscriptions," stories, GIFs, or archive sites.