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On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I'd just like to be able to read the email with all the characters the
> > user sent.
>
> Here's what I do:
>
> (M)ain (S)etup (C)onfig, display-filters
>
> And add a filter for each charset you want. For iso-8859-1, I have:
>
> _CHARSET(iso-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8
>
> That says that when a message is in that charset, iconv will be invoked
> to convert it to utf-8 (which is what my terminal is configured for).

I've tried this and it doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is
there something I need to do to turn it on? Or something that is
conflicting with it?

-james

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, James Cummings wrote:

> I've tried this and it doesn't seem to have made any difference.

How do you know?

Run Pine at a higher debug level, and make sure that the display-filter
is being invoked. Make sure that the message you are viewing is indeed
in the charset that you have set to convert. Make sure your terminal is
configured for the charset you think it is (I use "xterm -u8" or PuTTY
with translation set to UTF-8).

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Is it possible to make Pine return to the msg index directly when one is
reading messages and hits 'D' on the last message?

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Hi,

some coworkers are having problems viewing the attachments I sent with
PINE 4.58 to them. They get the attachment but Outlook ignores it, so it
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez wrote:

> some coworkers are having problems viewing the attachments I sent with
> PINE 4.58 to them. They get the attachment but Outlook ignores it, so it
> looks like nothing is attached. I guess this is a MS-Outlook bug... could
> anyone confirm or reproduce this behaivor.

I can confirm to have observed this with 4.58. I didn't get to identify
any recurring pattern though under which circumastances. My workaround
was to re-send the whole lump using Outlook.

Haven't seen this behaviour in 4.60 or 4.61 though (yet).

Cheers,

--alexander

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*** Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) some coworkers are having problems viewing the attachments I sent with
:) PINE 4.58 to them. They get the attachment but Outlook ignores it, so
:) it looks like nothing is attached. I guess this is a MS-Outlook bug...
:) could anyone confirm or reproduce this behaivor.

This is a bug in Outlook. You can get around it if you enable

[X] quell-content-id

Read the help associated to this option for an explanation of the bug.

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Because nothing seems to have changed. When reading an iso-8859-1
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Unfortunately debugging has not been compiled into the pine4.61
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Yup, my terminal is certainly set to UTF-8, used an xterm -u8 to
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, James Cummings wrote:

> When reading an iso-8859-1 I get funny things like ~R instead of ' and
> when the message loads there is an annoying flash on the screen.

Save the message to a file, and run it through iconv with different
input encodings, until you find one that fits. I don't think iso-8859-1
has any smart quotes in it, so your message may be mis-labelled. My
guess is it's windows-1252.

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Hmm, now that the bug I had is fixed (but I have a patched version, it'll
be in the next real release presumably), I like stayopen folders.

But I realized that what I'd really like is for mailboxes I go to manually
be added to the stayopen list for that single pine run.

Well, what I really only care about is keeping my location in the mailbox
when I jump around, but that's only doable with stayopen folders. In other
words, I really only personally use one benefit of stayopen folders, and if
that one benefit were added in another way, I would use that way instead,
esp if it lowered usage of the mail server by me.

In other words, if I manually 'g'o to a different folder, I wish it'd
keep my place in the list for that mailbox even if I go back to INBOX.
That could be accomplished by automagically adding all folders I go to to the
stayopen list.

Also, I mentioned this to Jeff Franklin (who fixed the bug), but I'll also
mention it publically as a nitpick -- in the configuration screen, it's
referred to both as "stayopen" and "stay-open". Jeff thought it was
not possible to change at this point, but I sure hate such inconsistency.
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It would appear that on Jul 28, Alexander V Alekseev did say:

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, James Cummings wrote:
>
> > I would like to be able to change what role I'm using
> > to send a message at the editing screen (i.e. to/from/subject,
> > etc.) without needing to manually edit the To/From fields.
> I need this feature too! My case: I have different SMTP servers
> for different roles. So, If I make a mistake in SMTP server name or
> parameters in role, message will never be sent, because I can't change
> role after I compose a message!
>
> Bye. Alex.

I'm not sure I completely understand the problem as I haven't
implemented "Roles" in my pine configuration yet. ( I must say that
this thread has provided me with a lot of how-to details that increases
the likely hood of my doing so. But the times when I want to change my
"From:" or SMTP server are rare enough that it's not that hard to simply
postpone while I go to the setup screen and shuffle the order of the
smtp servers, then resume composing the postponed message & edit the "From"
header...

Still I imagine that If I did bother to configure "Roles" I'd really
dislike still getting stuck with manual workarounds. If I hadn't yet
composed the message, then canceling it and starting over with the "
'#'->reply->role->edit " sequence would be fairly painless. But, of
course, if it wasn't until I had already composed my message that I
discovered I was using the wrong role, I wouldn't want to discard it to
start over using the correct role either.

However, until/unless this feature is offered by pine itself, I offer here
a _VERY_UGLY_ workaround that I use sometimes when I want to convert a
mailing list reply to a new thread. (wanting to keep the quoted text but
lose the "In-Reply-To:" and other threading headers...)

It "should" be just as viable for keeping the edited text while starting a
reply with the appropriate role.

If I wasn't already using it, I'd invoke my alternate editor* (*in my case
it's vim, but anything that can save to a different file name will do).
Save the content to a file. close the alternate editor. And cancel the
message.

Then I start a new message**, (** if it was the role I was changing, I guess
I'd use " '#'->reply->role->edit " to start a new reply with the right role),
Then I'd simply delete the whole message content & read in the saved file into
the blank message.

In my case I'd be using vim and invoke one of these from my ~/.vimrc file
(depending on whether I'd spellchecked the message when I saved it.
which would also have been done by invoking one of these. Note: for those
rare occasions when I'm stuck using a windows versions of vim & pine I
replace the variables with actual hard coded pathnames in the _vimrc
file... but since I don't have a good stand alone windows spellchecker
I'd be using the tmp.txt version)

:map T :w! $snip/tmp.txt
:map t :r $snip/tmp.txt^M
:map s :w^M:w! $spellfile^M:!aspell -c $spellfile^M
:map S :w^MG:r $spellfile^Mkd1G

(of course the "^M"'s depicted above are actually embedded line-feeds
inserted into the ~/.vimrc via vim's "^V" command...)

The spellchecked version takes care of the bulk deleting. So I'd most
likely have finished my reply, spellchecked it from vim, saved the
results before I discovered the wrong role. At which point Knowing that
my $spellfile still contains the spellchecked text, I'd simply cancel,
start a new reply using " '#'->reply->role->edit " Invoke vim with
'^_', reissue the 'S' command. Save changes and send it.

(almost painless so long as I consistently spellcheck from vim)

If you don't like vim, then surely there must be an editor you do like
that will let you do a "save As". And pine's pico offers the "^R"
command to read the file back in...

Or you could just mark the whole message with the mouse and "try" using the
clipboard to copy/paste the content to the new message body...

Lots of luck.

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It would appear that on Aug 2, Eduardo Chappa did say:

> *** Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez ([email protected]) wrote today:
>
> :) some coworkers are having problems viewing the attachments I sent with
> :) PINE 4.58 to them. They get the attachment but Outlook ignores it, so
> :) it looks like nothing is attached. I guess this is a MS-Outlook bug...
> :) could anyone confirm or reproduce this behaivor.
>
> This is a bug in Outlook. You can get around it if you enable
>
> [X] quell-content-id
>
> Read the help associated to this option for an explanation of the bug.

I've had similar complaints from various windows using recipients, only
some of whom use outlook. In my sisters case I was able to get feedback
while I tested the "quell-content-id" In her case, it didn't help.
I can't remember which windows mail client she uses though... None
the less, in all such cases, (outlook or not) if I can convince the
recipient to save the attachment to disk and then opening it from there
rather than trying to open it with the mail client. It has so far, always
turned out that the attachment was actually there & was found by the save
to disk process even though the open it from email client option failed
to find it... Don't have a clue why this is so, But I'd suggest that if
the "quell-content-id" option doesn't solve it, you could try asking the
recipient to save it to disk instead of opening it on the fly...

Just a thought.

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Hello!

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, James Cummings wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to be able to change what role I'm using
> > > to send a message at the editing screen (i.e. to/from/subject,
> > > etc.) without needing to manually edit the To/From fields.
> > I need this feature too! My case: I have different SMTP servers
> > for different roles. So, If I make a mistake in SMTP server name or
> > parameters in role, message will never be sent, because I can't change
> > role after I compose a message!
> >
> > Bye. Alex.
>
> I'm not sure I completely understand the problem as I haven't
> implemented "Roles" in my pine configuration yet. ( I must say that
> this thread has provided me with a lot of how-to details that increases
> the likely hood of my doing so. But the times when I want to change my
> "From:" or SMTP server are rare enough that it's not that hard to simply
> postpone while I go to the setup screen and shuffle the order of the
> smtp servers, then resume composing the postponed message & edit the "From"
> header...
SMTP server is saved in headers of postponed message, so it
can't be changed after message is composed. ;-((

> If I wasn't already using it, I'd invoke my alternate editor* (*in my case
> it's vim, but anything that can save to a different file name will do).
> Save the content to a file. close the alternate editor. And cancel the
> message.
Sometimes I also use it. But postponed message may contain
attachments, which can't be saved this way.

Bye. Alex.

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How can I force pine (4.61) to ask me if I want to
prune my sentmail/readmail ? (I know people usually
ask the opposite!)

I've been waiting for the start of the month to
be prompted to archive my full sent-mail and
read-mail folders, and have just realised (4 days
later *doh*) that it has never asked me this.

How do I turn it on?

I have set (the default) pruning-rule to ask
me, I have set pruning folders, and I have set
it to use YYYY-MM-DD format.

Reading about the last-time-pruned-questioned
variable is confusing, but it is currently 104.8
and so I set it to 104.6 exit pine and reload it.
I'm not prompted to save my old sent-mail or read-mail
and the variable instantly reads 104.8 again.

I'm sure (like with everything else I ask), I'm just
missing something obvious, so what is it?

Many thanks,
-James

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, James Cummings wrote:

> I've been waiting for the start of the month to be prompted to archive
> my full sent-mail and read-mail folders, and have just realised (4
> days later *doh*) that it has never asked me this.

What is "pruning-rule" set to?

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, James Cummings wrote:
>
> > I've been waiting for the start of the month to be prompted to archive my
> > full sent-mail and read-mail folders, and have just realised (4 days later
> > *doh*) that it has never asked me this.
>
> What is "pruning-rule" set to?

As I said in my original message, it is set to ask me.
Specifically ask-ask or the checkbox in the config that says
"Ask about Rename, Ask about deleting".

Surely that means it should *ask* me? no?

-James
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, James Cummings wrote (quoting me):

>> What is "pruning-rule" set to?
>
> As I said in my original message, it is set to ask me.

The format of last-time-prune-questioned is "year.month" where "year" is
the number of years since 1900 (so for this year, 104) and month is the
month counting 1 from January.

If your last-time-prune-questioned is set to 104.8, that means Pine
thinks you were already asked this month, so it won't ask until next.

If you want to force it to ask you, set it to an earlier date, say,
104.7.

That way, when you start Pine, it will see that it is time to prune your
mailboxes, and will ask you. After asking, it will automatically update
the value of last-time-prune-questioned to the current month and year.

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Is there some way I can filter messages that are "From" me, but use a different
real name?

e.g.
From: Alfonso Mclean <[email protected]>

Obviously this is spam, but it's passing my "in my address book", and once in
a while, I *do* want to email myself something. (Sometimes it's just
easier than doing it another way.)
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On Aug 5, James Cummings ([email protected]) typed:

James.: On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Gopi Sundaram wrote:
James.:
James.: > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, James Cummings wrote:
James.: >
James.: > > I've been waiting for the start of the month to be prompted to archive my
James.: > > full sent-mail and read-mail folders, and have just realised (4 days later
James.: > > *doh*) that it has never asked me this.
James.: >
James.: > What is "pruning-rule" set to?
James.:
James.: As I said in my original message, it is set to ask me.
James.: Specifically ask-ask or the checkbox in the config that says
James.: "Ask about Rename, Ask about deleting".
James.:
James.: Surely that means it should *ask* me? no?

Assuimg you have the pruned-folders value filled in.
What's in there?

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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> Is there some way I can filter messages that are "From" me, but use a
> different real name?

Try External Categorizer Commands for the filter. It'll probably be an
expensive operation, especially on large mailboxes.

You'll need to write some code to parse the header, and return the
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*** Gopi Sundaram ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Matt Ackeret wrote:
:)
:) > Is there some way I can filter messages that are "From" me, but use a
:) > different real name?
:)
:) Try External Categorizer Commands for the filter. It'll probably be an
:) expensive operation, especially on large mailboxes.

I don't see why this would be expensive if the folder is large, he only
needs to parse one header of one message, and you can arrange that only
headers be fed to that program, so I think this should be quick in general
(think of opening a message when you are in full headers mode without even
reading the body of the message, that's how long it takes to feed the
headers to the categorizer).

I would have done this with a combination of scores and filters, but I
think your proposed way is much better.

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Another option is to first filter messages with this

From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>

into a mailbox name FromMe (or whatever you want to call it) and
then filter these

From: [email protected]

into your ProbablySpam mailbox.

This should work if your real From: headers always looks the
same.

Yet another option is to always use an Organization header in
messages you send and then filter any message that is From
[email protected] but does not contain your Organization header
into your ProbablySpam box.

Nancy
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On 5 Aug 2004 Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote:
> Obviously this is spam, but it's passing my "in my address book", and once in
> a while, I *do* want to email myself something. (Sometimes it's just
> easier than doing it another way.)

I just reread your message Matt and see that you are using the
"in my address book" condition. I recommend *not* putting your
addresses in the address book that Pine checks. I discuss this on
my Reverse Spam Filtering page, which is here:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/spam/>

--- begin excerpt---
Tip: Do not put your own email addresses in your greenlist
because spammers often forge the From header with your address as
a way to sneak into your green box! Another reason to keep your
addresses out of your greenlist is that you can see how spammy
your messages are (because they will get analyzed and tagged with
a spam score).
--- end excerpt---

If you want your addressess in a Pine address book, put them in a
separate one from the one that the Pine filter checks.

Nancy
Infinite Ink
www.ii.com

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When I send a message to a mailing list in reply to something else.. It shows
up as a new message.. this of course, is a good thing :)

However, I start with all threads collapsed
(regular-index-with-collapsed-threads)

Is there any way to have a thread not recognize messages from myself as new?

My main problem is, I have to expand the thread, go open the message that I
sent, so it wont show an 'N' next to the collapsed thread anymore..

Thoughts?

Thanks

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*** Erik Parker ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) When I send a message to a mailing list in reply to something else.. It
:) shows up as a new message.. this of course, is a good thing :)
:)
:) However, I start with all threads collapsed
:) (regular-index-with-collapsed-threads)
:)
:) Is there any way to have a thread not recognize messages from myself as
:) new?

Erik,

There's a more general mechanism called "filters". You can use it to
change the Status from recent to seen. Press M S R F, you want to activate
the filter on messages from you that are recent. You want to set the
action to remove the new status.

I hope this helps,

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Eduardo,

That worked perfectly.. I didn't realize filters had that ability.

Thanks!

> There's a more general mechanism called "filters". You can use it to
> change the Status from recent to seen. Press M S R F, you want to activate
> the filter on messages from you that are recent. You want to set the
> action to remove the new status.

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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, S.A. Birl wrote:
> James.: Surely that means it should *ask* me? no?
> Assuimg you have the pruned-folders value filled in.
> What's in there?

'archive' which is a directory. If I change it to 'other-archive'
which is a folder on the server, it makes no difference.

I've reset the date to 104.6 in .pinerc each time.

Still don't get prompted.

-james

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*** James Cummings ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) How can I force pine (4.61) to ask me if I want to prune my
:) sentmail/readmail ? (I know people usually ask the opposite!)

James,

Pine does not ask you to prune folders that are remote (accessed through
IMAP). Is that your case?

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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> Pine does not ask you to prune folders that are remote (accessed through
> IMAP). Is that your case?

It shouldn't matter if they are remote or not.

James,
Would you mind sending us ([email protected]) a copy of your
pinerc file? Maybe we could spot something there. A -d9 debug run after
you set back the last-time-pruned would be even more informative if you
want to go to the trouble. Thanks.

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
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*** Steve Hubert ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
:)
:) > Pine does not ask you to prune folders that are remote (accessed
:) > through IMAP). Is that your case?
:)
:) It shouldn't matter if they are remote or not.

I agree, but it does. If your mail/ collection is local, but your
sent-mail is remote, it does matter, the sent-mail folder will not be
purged. The same is true about the read message folder. I really don't
know why this is so, though.

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On 6 Aug 2004 Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
> :) It shouldn't matter if they are remote or not.
>
> I agree, but it does. If your mail/ collection is local, but your
> sent-mail is remote, it does matter, the sent-mail folder will not be
> purged. The same is true about the read message folder. I really don't
> know why this is so, though.

Maybe the problem is because Pine only prunes folders that are in
the *default folder collection*, i.e., the folder collection that
is listed first in the folder-collection list variable. I discuss
this on my Power Pine page in this section:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvPrune>

--- begin excerpt ---
Using Pine's pruned-folders Variable

You can use the pruned-folders variable, along with your
pruning-rule, to automatically move (rename) some mailboxes in
your default folder collection at the beginning of each month. To
force a pruning at some time other than the beginning of the
month, edit the hidden variable last-time-prune-questioned so
that the month field is a number before the current month (for
example, if it is not January, set it to 1).

Starting with Pine 4.61, you have the option of setting the
prune-uses-yyyy-mm feature, which will will make Pine use a
purely numeric date for a pruned mailbox name extension.
--- end excerpt ---

Nancy
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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** James Cummings ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
>
> :) How can I force pine (4.61) to ask me if I want to prune my
> :) sentmail/readmail ? (I know people usually ask the opposite!)
>
> James,
>
> Pine does not ask you to prune folders that are remote (accessed through
> IMAP). Is that your case?

That is the case. IMAP ssl.

-James

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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Steve Hubert wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>
> > Pine does not ask you to prune folders that are remote (accessed through
> > IMAP). Is that your case?
>
> It shouldn't matter if they are remote or not.

They are though.

>
> James,
> Would you mind sending us ([email protected]) a copy of your .pinerc

will do.

> file? Maybe we could spot something there. A -d9 debug run after you set back
> the last-time-pruned would be even more informative if you want to go to the
> trouble. Thanks.

I'd love to but the debian .deb package that is provided for download
doesn't seem to have debugging compiled in and I'm loathe to go
through the work to compile it myself. :-) I could always, I assume
I could just export the folders manually. Just wanted to to do so
automagically.

-James

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*** Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote in...:

:) On 6 Aug 2004 Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
:) > :) It shouldn't matter if they are remote or not.
:) >
:) > I agree, but it does. If your mail/ collection is local, but your
:) > sent-mail is remote, it does matter, the sent-mail folder will not be
:) > purged. The same is true about the read message folder. I really
:) > don't know why this is so, though.
:)
:) Maybe the problem is because Pine only prunes folders that are in the
:) *default folder collection*, i.e., the folder collection that is listed
:) first in the folder-collection list variable. I discuss this on my
:) Power Pine page in this section:

What I meant to say is that I see no reason not to purge a folder in an
IMAP server. I do not see why one needs a collection to do so. I read the
code and it's very explicit that it is because it is located on a server,
but I still don't understand this restriction.

--
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On 7 Aug 2004 Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> I wrote:
> :) Maybe the problem is because Pine only prunes folders that are in the
> :) *default folder collection*, i.e., the folder collection that is listed
> :) first in the folder-collection list variable.
>
> What I meant to say is that I see no reason not to purge a folder in an
> IMAP server. I do not see why one needs a collection to do so. I read the
> code and it's very explicit that it is because it is located on a server,
> but I still don't understand this restriction.

I don't understand this restriction either and I'd love to be
able to prune folders in all my many folder-collections. I posted
about the *default folder collection* restriction for pruned
folders hoping that it might help James to solve his problem.
James, are the folders that you're having problems with in your
default folder collection? Maybe if you post these variable
settings from you pinerc

pruned-folders
default-fcc
folder-collection

we might be able to help.

Nancy
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Nancy McGough wrote:

> On 7 Aug 2004 Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
> solve his problem. James, are the folders that you're having problems with in
> your default folder collection? Maybe if you post these variable settings from
> you pinerc
>
> pruned-folders
> default-fcc
> folder-collection

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> we might be able to help.

I only have the one folder collection.

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*** James Cummings ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) > On 7 Aug 2004 Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
:) > solve his problem. James, are the folders that you're having problems
:) > with in your default folder collection? Maybe if you post these
:) > variable settings from you pinerc
:)
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James,

It looks like Nancy asked the right question. Try setting your default-fcc
to be sent-mail. I think that should work.

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** James Cummings ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
>
> :) > On 7 Aug 2004 Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
> :) > solve his problem. James, are the folders that you're having problems
> :) > with in your default folder collection? Maybe if you post these
> :) > variable settings from you pinerc
> :)
> :) pruned-folders=archive
> :) default-fcc={jamesc.herald.ox.ac.uk/ssl/user=jamesc}sent-mail
> :) folder-collections="Mail on jamesc.herald.ox.ac.uk/ssl/user=jamesc"
> :) {jamesc.herald.ox.ac.uk/ssl/user=jamesc}[]
>
> James,
>
> It looks like Nancy asked the right question. Try setting your default-fcc
> to be sent-mail. I think that should work.

You are right. That automatically prunes it now. However, it does
so on the server. Is there a way to have it instead save to a file
on the machine I'm running pine on?

(Yes, I know I can just export it manually.) I'm just wondering
if there is a way to have the pruning do this?

-James

---
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LEE TSONG

#117-1, Min Sheng E. Road.

Sec. 3, Taipei,

Taiwan

Attn: Dear Friend,

I wish my proposal would not come to you as a surprise. I am LEE TSONG, I
work as you would have seen with CITICORP, although this being a brief
introduction.

Anyway, we had a foreign client (Mohamed Mohd Salaheldin) who deposited
a
huge sum of amount, US$28.5million (Twenty Eight Million Five Hundred
Thousand United States Dollars) with our bank.

Unfortunately, this client was among the victims of EGYPTAIR FLIGHT
NO.990
that crashed on the 31-10-1999 in U.S.A. Confirmable from the below
website
www.cnn.com/us/9911/02/egyptair990.list/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/us/9911/02/egyptair990.list/index.html or

www.greatdreams.com/plane990.htm but, since then we have not had
anybody to
come for the claims as the next of kin. A situation I have monitored
closely
with my position in the bank.

Now, having monitored this deposit and managed it over the years before
his
death, and hence nobody has showed up as the next of kin for the past
two
years plus, I have removed the file to my "private vault".

I now solicit for your assistance to present you as the next of kin as
every
other arrangement has being concluded by me and I am only waiting for a
foreigner to enable me move the funds to his account. This does not
have any
risk attached to it as all the internal documentations would be handled
by
me and every loop holes sealed off.

I therefore request you to confirm your interest by a return message
and I
will furnish you with the full details and what to do concerning this
deal.
What you stand to gain would be discussed and it is negotiable before
the
deal commences.

NOTE: PLEASE KINDLY SEND YOUR REPLY TO THE ADDRESS BELOW

[email protected]

Believing to hear from you soonest.

Kind regards,

LEE TSONG .

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My email address (given shell/login issues is "[email protected]").
However, I want my address to be "[email protected]" So, I
edited the customized header option, and all mail apnow pears as if it is
sent from my preferred address. Nevertheless, mail in the "sent-mail"
folder now does not contain the recipient address but my own. Is there an
easy way to rectify this? That is, I would like each message stored in
the "sent-mail" folder to contain the recipent's address rather than my
own.

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Richard Tucker wrote:

> sent from my preferred address. Nevertheless, mail in the "sent-mail" folder
> now does not contain the recipient address but my own.

add [email protected] to the alt-addresses list in
the config screen, (M)ain->(S)etup->(C)onfig. that should do it.

-Ryan

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Worked perfectly; thanks much :-)

-Richard

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Ryan Barrett wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Richard Tucker wrote:
>
>> sent from my preferred address. Nevertheless, mail in the "sent-mail"
>> folder now does not contain the recipient address but my own.
>
> add [email protected] to the alt-addresses list in the config
> screen, (M)ain->(S)etup->(C)onfig. that should do it.
>
> -Ryan
>
> --
> "I do not like all these things that I used to..."
> -Brad Wolfe
>

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Dear Sir,

Please permit me to crave your indulgence at this point by asking for your
assistance in a

business transaction that will require your ability to collect funds in Europe
and to invest it

on behalf of a third party in your country. Meanwhile, may I iterate you
that you will have total

control of the investment of the funds within your region legally. However
the transaction will

be conducted under all applicable financial rules and regulation to avoid
the interference of

your country financial crime agent.

My name is Mr. Mokan.Y.M. Salzborn , am representing Mr. Jean Bertrand Aristide
(former president

of Haiti) in Latin America, who was recently forced out of power and sent
on exile, as a result

of political rigging of elections. Presently the South Africa government
has offered him asylum

considering the Political logjam in Haiti.

Mr. Jean Bertrand Aristide and his party members, have the sum of one hundred
and fifty six

million United States Dollars for the proposed investment. The funds were
initially raised by the

Party towards their next parliamentary election, but with the present political
problem in Haiti,

Mr. Jean Bertrand Aristide and the Party urge to relocate the funds to your
country for

investment, away from the interest of the public . This will require you
act as the

investment trustee for a minimum period of 2 - 5yrs.You will paid Ten percent
for the collection

of the funds and Twenty Percent profit after tax as the investment trustee.

Note that you are free to employ the services of an investor, managerial
agents or consultant for

To run and invest without the interference ,. But be very careful not to
disclose the source of the funds, for security reasons ?
However there are documents to back proof of source of funds,

meaning I urge you to treat this transaction as confidential as possible.

On your response and ability to handle this transaction, I will forward you
details on how we

intend to carryout the transaction and the possibility of meeting with you
in person before your

collection of the fund.

Best Regards,

Mr. Mokan.Y.M. Salzborn

Email: [email protected]

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HANG SENG BANK LTD.
DES VOEUX RD. BRANCH,
CENTRAL HONG KONG,
HONK KONG.

Dear Sir,
Let me start by introducing myself. I am Mr. Wang Qin credit officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd. I have a concealed business suggestion for you.Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client General. Ibrahim Moussa who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Twenty millions Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notice was sent to him, even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that the General and his family had been killed during the war in bomb blast that hit their home.After further investigation it was also discovered that Gen. Ibrahim Moussa did not declare any next of kin in his official papers including the paper work of his bank deposit. And he also confided in me the last time he was at my office that no one except me knew of his deposit in my bank.
So, Twenty millions Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars is still lying in my bank and no one will ever come forward to claim it. What bothers me most is that according to the to the laws of my country at the expiration 3 years and 10 months the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds.Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is thatI will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Gen. Ibrahim Moussa so that you will be able to receive his funds.

WHAT IS TO BE DONE:

I want you to know that I have had everything planned out so that we shall come out successful. I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Gen. Ibrahim Moussa, all that is required from you at this stage is for you to provide me with your Full Names and Address so that the attorney can commence his job. After you have been made the next of kin, the attorney will also fill in for claims on your behalf and secure the necessary approval and letter of probate in your favor for the move of the funds to an account that will be provided by you. There is no risk involved at all in the matter as weare going adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.
Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 70% for me, 25% for you and 5% for any expenses incurred during the course of this operation. Should you be interested please send me your private phone and fax numbers for easy communication and I will provide you with more details of this operation.
Your earliest response to this letter will be appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Mr. Wang Qin

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Hello,

Pine 4.61 do not display ascii 255 character in message body. It just ignore
it. Option pass-control-characters-as-is is on. I am writing/reading in
windows-1251 and koi8-r charsets. Pine 4.58 works fine...

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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I have been running pine (V3.95) on an AIXV4.3 machine with local NFS
mounts of the remote mail server's homedirs and INBOXes. It's been
running fine for years, inboxes are in /var/spool/mail which is 2755.

2) I installed pine at 4.60 on its successor (not yet in production)
and got it accessing those files via IMAP rather than using NFS
mounts. That installation complained that I should chmod the INBOX
dir to 1777, which I did 2 days ago, and everything seemed to test out
fine....both my old 3.95 Pine worked (NFS mounts) and the new Pine
4.60 (IMAP retrieval) as well.

Problem: This morning, everyone's having this trouble with the old
production V3.95 Pine: The INBOX takes forever (4 minutes to never) to
finish loading, pine sessions seem create high wait percentages...and
when this is occuring, it drags down the performance of the machine
terribly: it takes forever to log onto the machine....something's
being locked.

So I switched the only thing I touched (honest!), the permissions on
the /var/spool/mail INBOX directory back to 2755. Still having the
problem.
The new V4.6 install of pine loads up just fine on the other box. I
have cleaned out some <userid>.lock files in /var/spool/mail, but
things are still hung up. Are there some lockfiles somewhere else? I
looked in /tmp to no avail....
Have any comments, debugging, suggestions, etc.?

In the meantime, I set the inbox path to use IMAP instead of the local
NFS remote mounts, and that works, tho it will be confusing to the
users......

Help!

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I just started using Pine on a new server and everytime I submit a message
to an address for the first time (during a session) I receive the error:

[Mail not sent: sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
(#5.7.1)]

I can eventually submit a message by exiting Pine and resending, but this
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Hi Mark!

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Mark Crispin wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Alexander V Alekseev wrote:
>> Under Linux I use iconv patch, which works much better.
>
> The iconv() patch does not work in many cases in which the code in 4.60 does.

Sorry for the long delay in taking up this comment, but I've sent my
patch to the pine developers a year ago, so I'm quite happy to finally
read the first comment from an official pine developer on this patch.

While being grateful for the first technical comment from a pine developer
on some patch I've submitted a year ago, can I now please request that
you are a bit more specific about the cases where the iconv patch does
not work where the code in 4.60 does?

I know there are some cases and the iconv() patch could certainly be
improved, but if every simple comment about some problem in a patch
takes one year to get back to me, the patch might likely not be included
before 20 years passed.

I think you use "does not work in many cases in which the code in 4.60"
to refer that the ISO-2022-JP conversion feature does not work with this
patch.

Let's acknowledge this, but also let's work on this on a way where we
exchange mails and actual information is passed back and forth, not
unspecific comments.

This special-case code for ISO-2022-JP should be turned into a feature
which can be used generally, as the UTF-8 patch does, right now this special
code for ISO-2022-JP is hard-coded for one specific charset and while
the feature to send as a different charset than you use for display
is desirable, it should be done in a way which is generally useable,
not only to convert ISO-2022-JP to EUC-JP or Shift-JIS, and vice versa.

Such feature can be implemented with the patches I've sent here long ago
by using the config setting "send-charset" and exactly the same function
can be implemented by far less special-case code then than is needed now.

We need two-way communication in order to fix any issues and find
a general way to do things.

> Nor is iconv() available on the other ports of UNIX where Pine runs.

Yes, but:

According to the "pine first use emails by platform by month" graph
at the bottom of http://staff.washington.edu/corey/pine-stats/
Linux is *by far* the OS where the most first use emails come from
while the other Unix-like operating systems were also a noticeable
amount of new user mails are sent are only Solaris and FreeBSD,
but even if combined, their number appears to be not as high to me.

Solaris has iconv(), and FreeBSD should have as well if it ought
to run modern software. From other OSes have a considerable amount
of first use mails have been sent, but most of them were sent
before the turn of the century and it's unlikely that there is
a really big amount if users on such OS es like Ultrix today even
if there might have been a few 100.000 users un Ultrix turing the
late 90ties.

This is however not something which should hold the development
of pine back today. If we co-operate, we can do it in a way were
existing functionality is preserved and the abilities of the operating
systems on which users update pine nowadays to are exploited properly.

Best Regards,
Bernhard Kaindl

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Dear Pine Forum,

Despite the improvement incorporated into pine 4.61 which helps
to display mail coded in UTF-8 in the current display charset, there
are still problems which relate to charsets as recent threads here showed.

A very common issue are the curly quotes which originate from non-UNIX
environments and have no exact 1-to-1 representation in e.g. ISO-8859-1.

The recent thread of this issue showed one of the weaknesses of the
current charset translation code. It's nice to have one compiled into
pine, but it can be done better. For example, these curly quotes can
be recoded to simple US-ASCII quotes if needed by the display charset
in order to display a rought transliteration. Transliteration is just
one of the features which pine can benefit from by using existing code
and not trying to reinvent the weel, years after others have done it.

Just for clarifiaction: I see no reason to replace any code with iconv()
if iconv() does not provide for a simpler alternative when it's available.

The patch is done so that pine continues to work like it used to before
if iconv() is not installed or available on an OS. If it does not, it can
certainly be adressed, it would be a BUG().

People have tried to use display-filters for converting mail content,
but this does indeed not cover mail headers nor the message index view.

Also, a program displaying text using UTF-8 on a terminal has to be
aware of the fact that using UTF-8 means that quite often two or three
bytes represent one character and that in a mail index columns get
out of straight order when display is composed under the assumption
that one byte is one visible character. This is separate from any
recoding and affects the geneal handling of UTF-8 for display, for
conversion. Character input and editing an input buffer is an area
where, in addition, it has to be taken into account that for moving
by one character or for deleting one character, multible bytes have
to be looked at, not only one.

I've produced numerous patches to fix nearly all of these issues in
pine and recently, also in pico.

I've updated these patches to pine 4.61 now. My latest patches are
applied on to of the all.patch from Eduardo Chappa. All information
about this can be found on:

http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/FAQ.html

There, you find a link to the Eduardo's all.patch and my latest patch.

Bernhard
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PS: For developers which want to take a look, I mention two patches
which are included in the big UTF-8 patch but can be used separately:

I've individual patches which address the specific areas:

This patch adds support for UTF-8 to pico, as standalone editor
and as "embedded" library in pine:

http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/4.61/patches/pico-ucs-1a-4chappa.patch

A detailed list of changes is included at the top of this file.

http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/4.61/2004-08-17/pine-utf8-1b.patch

Intented to be applied on top of the this patch a patch for
raw UTF-8 (no converion, just native UTF-8 code) is here:

http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/4.61/2004-08-17/pine-utf8-1b.patch

Again, a detailed list of changes is added at the top of this file.

Most of the other patches in this directory, when put together,
result in the patch for UTF-8. How it's done is found in pine.spec
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Victor Stepanov wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> Pine 4.61 do not display ascii 255 character in message body.

I've tried the latin small letter y with diaeresis(ÿ) which is
allocated to decimal 255 in ISO-8859-1 and reproduced it.

> It just ignore it.

Yes, it's not shown (replaced by no output byte) during message view.

> Option pass-control-characters-as-is is on.

You should not enable this option normally (it's only a workaround
for improper charset support), but it doesn't hurt to have it enabled
or disabled for reproducing this bug.

> I am writing/reading in windows-1251 and koi8-r charsets.
> Pine 4.58 works fine...

I can reproduce it here, using an terminal which uses ISO-8859-1
mode and the "ÿ", when put into the subject field is only surpressed
in the MESSAGE TEXT screen, not in the MESSAGE INDEX screen.

> Any suggestions?

It's clear that it be some routine which is only active in the
MESSAGE TEXT screen.

The culprit is the gf_wrap filter and the use of the code 255 in it
to escape pine-internal data in strings.... It has undergone quite
extensive changes on the way from 4.58 to 4.61 for supporting flowed text.

BTW, the bug is being worked around in Linux/Unux charset translation
patch which is described on:

http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/FAQ.html

That's because pine uses code decimal 255 as an escape code in internal
data and I got very visibly affected by this misuse of of this byte code
during the development of the the above patch. The only way to get around
it was to redefine it to another code in my patch. The patch where I did
this is used in SUSE Linux 9.1, so if it would have triggered a bug,
it would have been reported, I strongly assume.

Bernhard
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The short answer to your question is:

The c-client library already has character set conversion functions which
we wish to use instead of iconv(). iconv() is not available on all the
platforms on which we develop (and *use*) Pine; we also have a Windows
Pine and a Web-based Pine.

In order to use iconv(), we would have to have a truly free (GNU is not
free) implementation of iconv() that we can incorporate and resdistribute
without restriction under the Pine license in all versions. There would
also have to be an excellent technical reason offered as to why we should
abandon the existing c-client support, which we started and used long
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I am having difficulty forwarding my email from one email account (via
Pine) to another. Any help would be extremely appreciated.

I have tried to simply create a .forward file (with the forwarding
address as the only text on teh first line), but this does not work,
And, I did the exact same thing, albeit following the formal circuitous
process, described at http://www.afn.org/AFNforwarding.html

2. From the Pine main menu, press "S" to select "Setup"
3. Press "S" again to select "Signature" setup task.
4. You are now in the Pico editor, working on your signature file called
signature. This is the file that is automatically added to the bottom of
your e-mail messages when you use Pine. If you don't have a signature
file, the screen will be blank, which doesn't matter as you don't need to
have one.
5. Type in the full e-mail address where you want your mail sent, for
example [email protected]
6. Press Ctrl-X to exit. Press "Y" to confirm exit. This has saved the
forwarding address you entered as .signature.
7. Repeat steps 2 and 3 to re-enter the signature editing function.
8. Press Ctrl-R, "Read File" function.
9. Press Ctrl-T, "To Files" function.
10. Use arrow cursor keys to move highlight over the file name
".signature"
11. Press "R" to rename the file.
12. Backspace or delete over the .signature name to change it to
forward, then press <Enter>. Yes, it does start with a period ".".
13. Press "E" to exit file browser.
14. Press Ctrl-C to cancel the "File insert" function.
15. Press "Y" to cancel edit of the .signature file.

Any help will be most welcomed.

Thanks

-Richard

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Bernhard Kaindl wrote:

> BTW, the bug is being worked around in Linux/Unux charset translation
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> http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/FAQ.html

I'm using Pine in Cygwin. I've tried to apply mentioned patch, but build
failed on search.c. BTW, could utf8 patch be solution for me in Cygwin?

Thank you very much for deep explaination.

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Mark Crispin wrote:

MC> The c-client library already has character set conversion functions
MC> which we wish to use instead of iconv(). iconv() is not available on
MC> all the platforms on which we develop (and *use*) Pine; we also have a
MC> Windows Pine and a Web-based Pine.

Where can I find more information about this Web-based Pine? Is it
generally available for download? If not, why not?

Henrik

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Henrik Edlund wrote:
> Where can I find more information about this Web-based Pine? Is it
> generally available for download? If not, why not?

Web Pine is still under internal development and testing. I do not know
what plans have been made about making it generally available outside of
UW.

-- Mark --

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Hello,

This is a message for the owner of the list, this is my third attempt to
contact him/her. I have not received a reply to my messages, so hopefully
this message will be sent to that person by someone.

I read this mailing list using Pine (what a surprise!), and somehow many
of the threads in this list get displayed not as threads, meaning, it
looks as if all messages are a reply to the same message. Which in most
cases are not.

Researching a little bit the situation led me to figure out that the list
manager cuts the references header, leaving only two entries in it. I know
this is not something I am doing on my side because the archives which can
be accessed by ftp have exactly the same problem.

This problem would not happen if the thread algorithm used the
in-reply-to header to process threads. The full story here is that the
in-reply-to header is used only if the references header is not used, when
there is a references header the "in-reply-to" header is ignored. I've
mentioned this shortcoming to Mark, but I've never received an answer as
to improving this shortcoming.

In any case, the problem would be solved if the list manager did not trim
the references header. I read more than a year ago that there was a
project to switch the list manager program, I don't know if that ever
happened, but to me it would be extremely useful if this list used one
that did not trim the references header.

Thanks,

--
Eduardo
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Victor Stepanov wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Bernhard Kaindl wrote:
>
>> BTW, the bug is being worked around in Linux/Unux charset translation
>> patch which is described on:
>>
>> http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/FAQ.html
>
> I'm using Pine in Cygwin. I've tried to apply mentioned patch, but build
> failed on search.c.

Sorry, I've had a notice but it was only in the now version
announcement at the top of the FAQ page.

What I was missing to tell there was that you've to apply Eduardo
Chappa's "all" patch before applying the utf-2a-4.61 patch.

I've added this explanation with a link to the all.patch.gz now
at this place.

> BTW, could utf8 patch be solution for me in Cygwin?

Yes, it could. But about that later.

The problem of code 255 can be worked around opening
pine/pine.h and changing the line
#define TAG_EMBED '\377'
to
#define TAG_EMBED '\021'

While it's only a workaround, it's ok to use it since 021 is control
char DC1 which should be filtered anyway and it's even better to use
this code for TAG_EMBED because what way this code would be filtered
by the control char filter (if not disabled) already so then it's used
internally in pine, it can be assumend it's really an internal character,
oppoesed to \377 which can, as we've seen also be introduced externally
and this could even be used to trick pine into something bad, even
from a security standpoint, this change can be recommended.

You have mentioned that you are writing/reading in windows-1251 and
koi8-r charsets, and while, e.g. if you configure KOI8-R as character-set,
in pine and read a message encoded in windows-1251, pine 4.61 should
display most of it properly, it will not be able to convert some
characters, so especially people living in an environment where
two not 100% overlapping charsets are used, the iconv/UTF-8 patch
can help.

It can help in two ways:

a) If you don't change your setup and only run a pine which uses
libiconv as this patch does, libiconv (if the version you install
supports it for your charset) can transliterate characters which
cannot be converted and since pine's internal charater conversion
code can only convert, but not transliterate (at least not as good
as libiconv) you get a "?" as conversion result when the pine's
default conversion code is used.

With the libiconv library (assuming a version which you install
supports transliteration) it can transliterate the windows-1251
character which represents two "<" in one character to "<<" and
so on, I don't know more examples, I've just found this by chance.

Also, (when I've completely updated the send-charset feature) allow
you to use e.g. the above double-'<' and double-'>' in windows-1251
while writing mail and have all mail you send convered to KOI8-R
with transliteration of double-'<' to << for example.

b) if you can run a pine in a terminal which uses UTF (e.g. in a xterm
from XFree86 on Cygwin) and do the same as in a) but for your
display, no transliteration would be neccesary, in neither direction,
since your pine and display would display any characters which your
fonts support (depending on the fonts any other language from the
region, even polish, czech and so on).

Also, there is a version of the mutt mailreader for Cygwin which also
uses libiconv:

http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt/cygwin.html

An explanation how it install it is found on this page, it's
links to: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2002-06/msg00015.html

Bernhard

PS: For Win32 compilation:

Besides win Win32 version of mutt also uses libiconv, as dynamically
loadable dll (so no static linking), it's here:
http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt/win32.html

It links here, were people can find the dynamically loaded libiconv
dll: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libiconv.htm

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On Aug 18, 2004, 16:20 (-0700) Richard Tucker <richard.tucker@nashvillemail...:

> I am having difficulty forwarding my email from one email account (via Pine)
> to another. Any help would be extremely appreciated.

Pine does not support forwarding of mail. Forwarding should be done by the
mailserver (mail delivery agent and/or mail transfer agent), e.g.
sendmail.

> I have tried to simply create a .forward file (with the forwarding address as
> the only text on teh first line), but this does not work, And, I did the
> exact same thing, albeit following the formal circuitous process, described
> at http://www.afn.org/AFNforwarding.html

The .forward file is used by sendmail, if any, not by pine. You should
direct your question to the administrator of the mailserver to find out
how to forward mail, if there is any support in the mailserver.

Mats

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*** Richard Tucker ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) I am having difficulty forwarding my email from one email account (via
:) Pine) to another. Any help would be extremely appreciated.

Hello Richard,

The directions to create a .forward file are a littel bit complicated. I
am not completely sure they work, but here's another way you can do it.

1. Compose a new message and enter the address that you want to have
messages forwarded in the very first line of the message.

2. Press ^O (CTRL-O) to postpone that message.

3. Go to your postponed-msgs folder and put the cursor over the message
you just composed.

4. Press "V" twice, you will be in a screen that says something like

1 1 lines Text/PLAIN

5. Press "S", you will see a prompt like

SAVE: Copy attachment to file in current directory:

6. Enter ".forward" (without the quotes).

Now you should have a file called ".forward" including the desired
address to where your messages will be redirected.

--
Eduardo
Patches/Help: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Mark Crispin wrote:
>
> The short answer to your question is:
>
> The c-client library already has character set conversion functions which
> we wish to use instead of iconv(). iconv() is not available on all the
> platforms on which we develop (and *use*) Pine; we also have a Windows Pine
> and a Web-based Pine.

When I talk about iconv() I talk about the API (which can be implemented
by other charset conversion routines), not about a specific implementation
of it. The iconv API is part of the Unix 95, Unix 96, XPG4, POSIX and the
Single Unix Specification.

Even if this alone does not say anything if it's a good API, it's indeed
a very powerful standard API which allows to implement converters from
any charset to any other, including (and this is what is lacking in the
current charset converter API (if it can be named as such).

> In order to use iconv(), we would have to have a truly free (GNU is not
> free) implementation of iconv() that we can incorporate and resdistribute
> without restriction under the Pine license in all versions. There would
> also have to be an excellent technical reason offered as to why we should
> abandon the existing c-client support, which we started and used long
> before iconv() existed.

What existed first is a difficult question but in this
http://www.cs.csubak.edu/~jwarwick/include/iconv.h
iconv header file we find:
* COMPONENT_NAME: (LIBICONV)
...
* (C) COPYRIGHT International Business Machines Corp. 1991

It's also found in a document for HP-UX from 03-10-95:
http://wwwpdp.web.cern.ch/wwwpdp/ose/file/new-test/faq/faq_hpux10/UNX1000118.html

The HP man page is btw the best documentation about it's API (it includes
a very instructive code example which shows how it works) which I found:
http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/onlinedocs.py?mpn=B2355-90130&service=hpux&path=../B2355-90130/00/04/450

Solaris 2.5, around 1997:
http://www-lehre.inf.uos.de/~sp/Man/_Man_Solaris_2.5_html/html3/iconv_open.3.html

Digital UNIX Version 3.2c:
http://www.iagu.net/docs/dec/DOCUMENTATION/AA-Q0U4L-TET1_html/relnotes8.html

Of course there was no (and still is no) implementation which could be
incorporated or statically linked into pine, so of course you have a point
there. All I wanted to show is that it's not an obscure interface which
nobody uses.

The point I want to make is that currently, pine has no universal
interface for all charset conversion it needs to do. By saying this,
I mean that pine has, in pine/filter.c,

a converter for ISO-2022-JP to EUC-JP - gf_2022_jp_to_euc()
a converter for EUC-JP to ISO-2022-JP - gf_euc_to_2022_jp()
a converter for 8-bit character-sets - gf_convert_8bit_charset()
a converter for UTF-8 as input charset - gf_convert_utf8_charset()

To convert charsets in as pine filters (byte-oriented).

In pine/string.c, we've, to for converting string data, conerters
to convert
from EUC-JP (or Shift-JIS, on PC) to ISO-2022-JP - trans_euc_to_2022_jp()
from ISO-2022-JP to EUC-JP (or Shift-JIS, on PC) - trans_2022_jp_to_euc()

All these functions are then called from various places in pine, each
time, a lot of special-case code to handle these different converter
routines.

I just think the code could be made cleaner if pine would also internally
use to iconv() API, not by "abandoning the existing c-client support" but
by adding an API to it which allows to extend the internal charset converter
used by pine, whithout having to modify all pine code which calls the
converter in order to do the right thing. This also offers to use an
external converter instead of the internal, once an POSIX API like iconv
is used.

Insisting on never using external libraries, assuming that you'd have to
statically link pine with it and not being able to distribute pine
"free" anymore therefore (which is not the case) is like insisting in
implementing SSL and LDAP inside pine, which are external libaries,
linked dynamically if they are available on the target platform.

Nobody said we can't support SSL or LDAP because it's not guaranteed
to be there on all platforms where pine is used (e.g. pine is not built
with LDAP support on Linux by default, SSL support is not a must-have
to compile pine on Linux, the same applies to additional charsets.

I'm not going to ask you to abadon internal converters, I just say the
internal converter code would need to be supplemented or better, it can
implement a more flexible, standardized interface in order to be
extended or for more (e.g. 8-bit charset conversion with transliteration)
and this interface exists and is called iconv().

I implemented the calling code for iconv() in pine and implementing the
API provider using the existing conversion routines available in pine
is also not this big problem. Currently, I plug iconv() into the "API"
of conversion_table(), which is fine and indeed it gives you more info
than using iconv instead (an indication if the conversion only looses
seome special chars or if it looses some letters), but this can still
be used in parallel to being able to use iconv if wanted, it can even
be made selectable at runtime, using a pine config option, if you want.

In addition a method of fallback could be implemented then, depending
on which conversion engine supports a particular recoding, one can be
picked by preference. Such things can certainly be done then.

What I don't want is a monopoly of one particulare translation engine
because it has a patent of being the only one which is allowed to be
used. That's bad for competition :-)

I don't want to abadon your code, I just say it's API isn't flexible
enough anymore and should be improved to support UTF-8.

Bernhard

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Bernard,
We will try, in the next few weeks, to find time to take a close look at
all the work you have done, and to see if we think it makes sense to
incorporate some of it into the main pine release. We hope that we will be
able to, but we also worry about introducing bugs and inconsistencies, so
we progress slowly. Thank you for all the work!

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Steve Hubert wrote:

> Bernard,
> We will try, in the next few weeks, to find time to take a close look at all
> the work you have done, and to see if we think it makes sense to incorporate
> some of it into the main pine release. We hope that we will be able to, but we
> also worry about introducing bugs and inconsistencies, so we progress slowly.
> Thank you for all the work!

I can attest to the quality of Bernard's work. I have been using it
through several iterations (after contributing a small part of the code).
In my opinion, it makes a huge step forward in internationalizing Pine. I
am able to receive messages from all over the world, and have them
displayed properly in my UTF-8 terminal emulator.

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Ok, I understand that this
(1) isn't directly related to pine and
(2) _sort of_ violates the spirit of IMAP

I love IMAP, but would also cache locally if I could.. since even pine over a
sometimes flaky 802.11 connection can be a pain..

Plus I like the keep everything on server aspect, but caching locally would
speed things up -- yet since it's also on the server, I can blow away my
local cache without caring.

Does anyone know of a way I could cache my mail locally from at least
one account (hopefully two), and then be able to read/delete messages (possibly
even reply), and then later sync up with everything working automagically..?
i.e. deleted messages locally are properly marked deleted on the server,
if I expunge messages from another client, it's all properly synced up.

I actually use a GUI mail program on a powerbook usually but would probably use
pine if I could have this offline reading.

I presume I would have to run other separate tools to do the syncing..
and in case it matters, one account is only accessible when attached to VPN,
so just because I had a net connection wouldn't mean I automatically was
able to sync that acct.
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We're looking at POP3 for one specific application but we don't really want
to make available to our entire user community. I've checked around and
APOP would be the ticket for us as the authentication is done from a file
residing on the POP server. This would allow us to restrict it to our one
application and no one else. Does U of W's ipop3d support APOP
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Subject: deleting plain text part adds silly (IMHO) plain text part
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So I got an internal newsletter thing that is mostly html but has the
completely stupid "you can't read html or your mail program is configured to
not read html" text part.

Yes, I have the prefer plain text config setting turned on.

So I thought hey, I could just delete the plain text part, save it to the
inbox, and view it that way. (If I try to view the html part from the
attachment viewer, then it launches links.. and it looks all messed up there)

But when I delete it and save it, then pine puts in another plain text
part:
[ The following attachment was DELETED when this message was saved: ]
[ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 539 bytes. ]

Which is kind of annoying since it prevents my "workaround" from working.

I knowingly deleted the attachment, why does pine have to tell me that?

BTW, I just turned off the prefer plain text pref and reread the mail.. but
I had expected my workaround to work.

(it was fluff content I didn't need to bother, as usual with most html mail)
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On Aug 24, 2004, 14:18 (-0700) Matt Ackeret <[email protected]> wrote:

> So I thought hey, I could just delete the plain text part, save it to the
> inbox, and view it that way. (If I try to view the html part from the
> attachment viewer, then it launches links.. and it looks all messed up there)
>
> But when I delete it and save it, then pine puts in another plain text
> part:
> [ The following attachment was DELETED when this message was saved: ]
> [ A Text/PLAIN segment of about 539 bytes. ]
>
> Which is kind of annoying since it prevents my "workaround" from working.
>
> I knowingly deleted the attachment, why does pine have to tell me that?

I like the way it is, because when I get mails with large files attached,
I can remove them from the mail and save the rest, knowing that there was
a file. I'd even like to see that the file name is saved too.

But there could be an option. Pine could prompt if you'd like to keep a
stub attachment or not.

Mats

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Mats Dufberg wrote:
> I like the way it is, because when I get mails with large files attached, I
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> file. I'd even like to see that the file name is saved too.
>
> But there could be an option. Pine could prompt if you'd like to keep a stub
> attachment or not.

It's not a *huge* deal, but AFAIK, GUI mail programs that let you remove
attachments don't leave any stub.

I just wanted to mention it since it seemed strange.

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Mats Dufberg wrote:
> I like the way it is, because when I get mails with large files attached, I
> can remove them from the mail and save the rest, knowing that there was a
> file. I'd even like to see that the file name is saved too.
>
> But there could be an option. Pine could prompt if you'd like to keep a stub
> attachment or not.

BTW, I realize my workaround was strange..

I guess I really wish I could've somehow easily toggled (maybe just for
that one message) whether to read the text part or the html part, without
going to the prefs and then back.

Though maybe I can turn off links as my external viewer since I don't use
it much anymore -- I have Safari as my URL viewer already.

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> I like the way it is, because when I get mails with large files attached, I
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> file. I'd even like to see that the file name is saved too.

+1. i delete attachments often, and i like the bread-crumb trail pine leaves.
(sorry matt! :P)

-Ryan

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I DL'd, compiled and installed PINE 4.61 from U of Wash. on my OS X Panther
(10.3.5) Al-PB, and was successful.

But apparently too successful. Now when I click on the Terminal icon on the
dock, PINE launches in a Terminal window. If I quit PINE, it terminates the
shell.

The command that is launched automatically when clicking Terminal is the
following:

/Users/myusername/My\ Apps/pine4.61/bin/pine; exit

so, if I quit PINE, the terminal window prints out the logout messages:

Pine finished
logout
[Process completed]

The only way I can sort of trick it into keeping the shell open is to suspend
PINE by pressing ^Z then fg it, then quitting PINE allows me to go back to the
shell prompt.

I tried snooping in the .login and .cshrc (i use the tcsh) but could not find a
clue (my .login and .cshrc files are not very long or complicated; just a few
aliases).. I also don't have any .term file.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Eduardo
Aug 25 23:14 -0400

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Eduardo De Leon wrote:
> I DL'd, compiled and installed PINE 4.61 from U of Wash. on my OS X Panther
> (10.3.5) Al-PB, and was successful.
>
> But apparently too successful. Now when I click on the Terminal icon on the
> dock, PINE launches in a Terminal window. If I quit PINE, it terminates the
> shell.

It sounds like you're starting up pine automatically through a script
or something.

> so, if I quit PINE, the terminal window prints out the logout messages:
>
> Pine finished
> logout
> [Process completed]

Yeah, if pine was the process that was started, not the shell, then this
is expected.

Actually this isn't exactly the thing I originally thought you were talking
about, but you might want to change your setting in the Shell section of
the Terminal Inspector window.. i.e. the "When the shell exits:" setting.

If you explain how pine is starting up automatically, then I can help more.
(I'm typing this in pine on OSX right now.)

Actually it sounds like *maybe* you changed the setting in the Terminal
preferences.

Did you make it say "Execute this command" and fill in pine there?

If so, then it's behaving completely correctly. You want it to "Execute
the default login shell".

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I think this technically "behaves correctly" but it sure is confusing... and
I think it's caused by people being morons and replying to an existing thread
and changing the subject instead of starting a new thread..

In my carbon-dev mail folder, I did a search for "Burned" because things
weren't all showing up next to each other in threaded mode.

So I ended up with this list:

X N 2533 Aug 11 . | | | |-Jo (4754) [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9 to h
X N 2534 Aug 11 . | | | [ 8] (4520) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2535 Aug 12 | | | [ 9] (4945) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2536 Aug 13 | | | [ 8] (4704) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9 X 2801 Aug 12 . Laurence Harris (4734) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2802 Aug 12 |-John Stiles (5355) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2803 Aug 12 Laurence Harris (4373) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2804 Aug 12 . Laurence Harris (5805) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2805 Aug 12 |-John Stiles (3773) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2806 Aug 12 . Laurence Harris (4345) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2807 Aug 12 |-Scott Thompson (4292) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2808 Aug 13 Chris Reed (4199) RE: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9
X N 2809 Aug 13 Laurence Harris (5901) Re: [OT] Burned CDs cause Mac OS 8-9

If I hit / on the first message (or I suspect any of the first 4 messages,
those items DISAPPEAR from my zoomed list, never to come back again.
(Ok, I just realized I can ZZ and get them back.. previously I was going out
of Zoomed mode and doing the search again.)

Anyway.. Maybe these items should be considered a mini-thread or even
prohibit / from working in this zoomed mode.

I think making the messages disappear (where / can't immediately be followed by
/ again to go back to the previous behavior) is VERY confusing..
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Hello,

Is there a way to group mails by their subject when you are in an open
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jenny Payne wrote:
>Is there a way to group mails by their subject when you are in an open
>PINE folder?

Hit $ -- for sort.. then S for subject

But you probably want to learn more about pine's threading ability, which
is probably closer to what you really want -- grouped by topic, not literal
subject.

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jenny Payne wrote:

> Is there a way to group mails by their subject when you are in an open
> PINE folder?

$ S (dollar-s).

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$S

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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Steve Hubert wrote:
> That was too complex for me to understand. Would it be possible for you to
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> to do to see it? Thanks.

Hmm, I thought the picture would actually show what happened. I knew I
couldn't explain it well.

I don't think I can really send a whole folder, even though it's a public
mailing list.. I probably deleted a bunch of the messages already anyway.

1) do a "w" search that will result in messages from different threads,
INCLUDING some that are NOT at the start of the thread -- that is, someone
REPLIED to a message and just changed the subject, so it "appears" in the
wrong thread.
2) go into Zoomed mode if not already
3) move the cursor to one of these "sub-thread" messages
4) hit /
-> Now the messages disappear from the zoomed mode, even though they're
still selected.

It's because you have collapsed the thread out from underneath pine.
Again, it probably technically behaves correctly but is confusing.

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Hello,

I have discovered a potential crash bug in Pine. The gcos_name()
function contains a buffer overflow. When expanding "&" constructs,
it happily writes outside of the buffer. Once the function has moved
outside that buffer, it will keep writing to the memory forever
without interruption, as the check for when the buffer is full uses
"!=3D" and not "<".

Despite being a buffer overflow, this is probably not a security
problem, as the data involved is set by the user and his or her
system administrator and not by people who send mail to the user.
Nevertheless, I think this bug is worth fixing, as the Right Thing
for a program should be not to assume anything about its input and
to handle various problems well.

I have attached a patch against Pine-4.61, which both makes the
"&" expansion stop in time and makes the end check use "<". To test
this problem, simply change your GCOS field to a string like "First
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Last". The resulting
string when processed by Pine is larger than MAX_FULLNAME.

// Ulf Harnhammar
http://www.advogato.org/person/metaur/

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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Ulf H=E4rnhammar wrote:

> I have attached a patch against Pine-4.61, which both makes the
> "&" expansion stop in time and makes the end check use "<". To test
> this problem, simply change your GCOS field to a string like "First
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Last". The resulting
> string when processed by Pine is larger than MAX_FULLNAME.

Thanks! The fix will be included in the next version of pine.

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Univ. of Washington: Computing and Communications, Seattle

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Distingueshed salutation,

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Please I know that, this letter may sound strange and incredible to you but the CNN and the BBC African bulletin normally have it as their major news features. Therefore for the sake of God and humanity give an immediate positive consideration and reply to me via my e-mail address I will willingly agree to any suitable percentage of the money you will propose as your compensation for your assistance with regards to the above.

Please in view of my sensitive refugee status and as I am still conscious of my father's enemies. I would like you to give this a highly confidential approach.

Thanking you in anticipated co-operation, while I wait to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

Benson Kamara.

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I know this letter may come to you as a surprise considering the fact that we have not had any formal acquaintance before but all the same I would want you for the sake of God to give this an immediate attention in view of the fact that the security of my live and possession is at stake. 
 
I am Jackson Chara from war ravaged <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region><st1:place>Sierra Leone</st1:place></st1:country-region>, but presently domiciled in Abidjan Ivory Coast. My father Chief KAMARA KOJO who before his untimely assassination by the rebels was the Director of Sierra Leone Diamond Corporation (SLDC).He was killed in our government residential house along side two of my other brothers, two house maids and one government attached security guard fortunately for I, my and my mother, we were on a week end visit to our home town As we got the news of the tragedy. We immediately managed to run into a neighbouring <st1:country-region><st1:place><S!
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I had located the security company where the money is deposited with the help of a man of God here in Abidjan and established ownership, please right now with the bitter experiences I had in our country and the war still going on especially in Diamond area which incidentally is where we hail from coupled with the incessant political upheavals and hostilities in this country Ivory coast, I desire seriously to leave here and live the rest of my life into a more peaceful and politically stable country like yours. Hence this proposal and request, I therefore wish you can help me in the following regards<o:p></o:p>
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(1) Assist me to proceed and retrieve the fund from the Security Company and deposit in a non residence account for onward transfer. <o:p></o:p>
(2) Assist me to invest the fund into a lucrative business.<o:p></o:p>
(3) Assist me to get a University admission to further my education in your country.<o:p></o:p>
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Please I know that, this letter may sound strange and incredible to you but the CNN and the BBC African bulletin normally have it as their major news features. Therefore for the sake of God and humanity give an immediate positive consideration and reply to me via my e-mail address I will willingly agree to any suitable percentage of the money you will propose as your compensation for your assistance with regards to the above. <o:p></o:p>
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Please in view of my sensitive refugee status and as I am still conscious of my father's enemies. I would like you to give this a highly confidential approach.<o:p></o:p>
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Thanking you in anticipated co-operation, while I wait to hearing from you.<o:p></o:p>
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Kind regards,<o:p></o:p>
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Respectfull Charles W. Turner, M.D,

Good a thing to write you. I have a proposal for
you-this however is not mandatory nor will I in any
manner compel you to honour against your will.

I am MRS.CHARITY MARTINS,46 years old and the wife of
my late husband MR.ROBERTS MARTINS. My late husband
was a highly reputable busnness magnet-(a cocoa
merchant)who operated in the capital of Ivory coast
during his days.

It is sad to say that he passed away mysteriously in
France during one of his business trips abroad on the
22th.December 2003.Though his sudden death was linked
or rather suspected to have been masterminded by an
uncle of his who travelled with him at that time.
But God knows the truth!

I had my first and only son Elvis when i was 24 years
old and as at then we were happily married.Before his
death on December 22 2003 he called the secretary who
accompanied him to the hospital and told her that he
had a sum of 19.700,000 US DOLLARS (NINETEEN.SEVEN
MILLION USA DOLLARS)kept in a security company in
(AFRICA).

He also said that the security company does not know
the content of the safe Box.He decleared it to the
company as family treasure and used my son's name
ELVIS to Deposit the Box as his only child for next of
kin. He also explained to me that it was because of
this wealth that he was poisoned by his business
assocaites, That I should seek for a foreign partner
in a country of my choice where I will transfer this
money to and use it for investment purposes.

I want you to assist me in clearing this box from the
security company and then transfering the fund inside
the box into your account overseas as a beneficiary of
the fund, and also use it for an investment purpose.
I am just a widow and a refugee in a country i don't
have family nor friend and i really don't know what to
do.Now I want an account overseas where I can transfer
this funds. This is because I have suffered a lot of
set backs as a result of incessant political crisis in
my country LIBERIA and even here in Ivory coast.The
death of my husband actually brought sorrow to my son
and i.

Dearest one,I am in a sincere desire of your humble
assistance in this regards .Your suggestions and ideas
will be highly regarded.

Now permit me to ask these few questions:-
1. Can you honestly help me as your sister or partner?
2. Can I completely trust you?
3. What percentage of the total amount in question
will be good for you after the money is in your
account?

Please,Consider this and get back to me as soon as
possible on this my private e-mail address
at:[email protected]

Thank you so much,
Mrs.Charity Martins and SON.

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Respectfull one,

Good a thing to write you. I have a proposal for
you-this however is not mandatory nor will I in any
manner compel you to honour against your will.

I am MRS.CHARITY MARTINS,46 years old and the wife of
my late husband MR.ROBERTS MARTINS. My late husband
was a highly reputable busnness magnet-(a cocoa
merchant)who operated in the capital of Ivory coast
during his days.

It is sad to say that he passed away mysteriously in
France during one of his business trips abroad on the
22th.December 2003.Though his sudden death was linked
or rather suspected to have been masterminded by an
uncle of his who travelled with him at that time.
But God knows the truth!

I had my first and only son Elvis when i was 24 years
old and as at then we were happily married.Before his
death on December 22 2003 he called the secretary who
accompanied him to the hospital and told her that he
had a sum of 19.700,000 US DOLLARS (NINETEEN.SEVEN
MILLION USA DOLLARS)kept in a security company in
(AFRICA).

He also said that the security company does not know
the content of the safe Box.He decleared it to the
company as family treasure and used my son's name
ELVIS to Deposit the Box as his only child for next of
kin. He also explained to me that it was because of
this wealth that he was poisoned by his business
assocaites, That I should seek for a foreign partner
in a country of my choice where I will transfer this
money to and use it for investment purposes.

I want you to assist me in clearing this box from the
security company and then transfering the fund inside
the box into your account overseas as a beneficiary of
the fund, and also use it for an investment purpose.
I am just a widow and a refugee in a country i don't
have family nor friend and i really don't know what to
do.Now I want an account overseas where I can transfer
this funds. This is because I have suffered a lot of
set backs as a result of incessant political crisis in
my country LIBERIA and even here in Ivory coast.The
death of my husband actually brought sorrow to my son
and i.

Dearest one,I am in a sincere desire of your humble
assistance in this regards .Your suggestions and ideas
will be highly regarded.

Now permit me to ask these few questions:-
1. Can you honestly help me as your sister or partner?
2. Can I completely trust you?
3. What percentage of the total amount in question
will be good for you after the money is in your
account?

Please,Consider this and get back to me as soon as
possible on this my private e-mail address
at:[email protected]

Thank you so much,
Mrs.Charity Martins and SON.

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Debeorisa Austine,
Tel: 874 - 76 - 3648313
Fax: 874 - 76 - 3648315

My name is Debeorisa Austine,I am the operational
manager in account management section incharge of
credit and foreign bills of one of the prime banks
here in South Africa.I am writing in respect of a
foreign customer of my bank who perished on EGYPTIAN
Boeing 737 PLANE CRASH into the red sea with the whole
passengers aboard.

There is an account opened in this bank by this great
late diamond and oil magnet who died without a
written or oral WILL attatched to the account. Since
his death I personally has watched with keen interest
to see the next of kin but all has proved abortive as
no one has come to claim his funds and no other person
knows about this account or anything concerning it,the
account has no other beneficiary and until his death
he was the manager of his company.

The total amount involved is 48,223,000.00 USD.[ Forty
eight million two hundred and twenty three thousand
United States Dollar ].We wish to start the first
transfer with $8,000,000.00[Eight million] and
upon successful transaction without any disappointment
from your side,we shall re-apply for the transfer of
the remaining balance to your account.

I have secretly discussed this matter with the
manager of the bank who I must involve in order to
have a smooth and a successful transfer of the fund to
any foreign bank account which you are going
to nominate. On this note,I want you to act as the
foreign beneficiary of the fund from the deceased by
providing your bank account where the fund will be
transferred for immediate investment on any viable
project as no one has come up to be the next of kin.

The banking ethics here does not allow such money to
stay more than 2 years without claim hence the
money will be recalled to the government treasury as
unclaimed after this long period of domancy.

In view of this I got your contact through my personal
search to see if you can assist by providing your
safe bank account for the transfer or find a reliable
person who will be capable of receiving such amount in
his or her personal account.At the conclussion of the
transfer 65% of the fund will be for me,I will give
you 20% of the total transfer sum, 10% for charity
both in Africa and in your country while the remaining
5% will be set aside to settle expenses both parties
might incure during the transfer process.

Upon the receipt of your reply,I will send to you a
detailed information about the transaction.I will not
fail to bring to your notice that this business is
100% risk and trouble free and that you should not
entertain any fear as all modalities for fund transfer
can be finalized within 7 to 9 banking days, after
you apply to the bank as the beneficiary of the fund
from the deceased.

When you receive this letter.Kindly send me an e-mail
or you can call me or fax me.You should also include
your private fax and phone numbers for easy and safe
communication.

When you receive this letter, Kindly get back to me
through this my privet Email, Tel or Fax :

Tel : 874-763648313
: 874-763648314
Fax : 874-763648315

Email: [email protected]

You should also include your private fax and phone
numbers for easy and safe communication.

Respectfully Yours,

Debeorisa Austine.

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Debeorisa Austine,
Tel: 874 - 76 - 3648313
Fax: 874 - 76 - 3648315

My name is Debeorisa Austine,I am the operational
manager in account management section incharge of
credit and foreign bills of one of the prime banks
here in South Africa.I am writing in respect of a
foreign customer of my bank who perished on EGYPTIAN
Boeing 737 PLANE CRASH into the red sea with the whole
passengers aboard.

There is an account opened in this bank by this great
late diamond and oil magnet who died without a
written or oral WILL attatched to the account. Since
his death I personally has watched with keen interest
to see the next of kin but all has proved abortive as
no one has come to claim his funds and no other person
knows about this account or anything concerning it,the
account has no other beneficiary and until his death
he was the manager of his company.

The total amount involved is 48,223,000.00 USD.[ Forty
eight million two hundred and twenty three thousand
United States Dollar ].We wish to start the first
transfer with $8,000,000.00[Eight million] and
upon successful transaction without any disappointment
from your side,we shall re-apply for the transfer of
the remaining balance to your account.

I have secretly discussed this matter with the
manager of the bank who I must involve in order to
have a smooth and a successful transfer of the fund to
any foreign bank account which you are going
to nominate. On this note,I want you to act as the
foreign beneficiary of the fund from the deceased by
providing your bank account where the fund will be
transferred for immediate investment on any viable
project as no one has come up to be the next of kin.

The banking ethics here does not allow such money to
stay more than 2 years without claim hence the
money will be recalled to the government treasury as
unclaimed after this long period of domancy.

In view of this I got your contact through my personal
search to see if you can assist by providing your
safe bank account for the transfer or find a reliable
person who will be capable of receiving such amount in
his or her personal account.At the conclussion of the
transfer 65% of the fund will be for me,I will give
you 20% of the total transfer sum, 10% for charity
both in Africa and in your country while the remaining
5% will be set aside to settle expenses both parties
might incure during the transfer process.

Upon the receipt of your reply,I will send to you a
detailed information about the transaction.I will not
fail to bring to your notice that this business is
100% risk and trouble free and that you should not
entertain any fear as all modalities for fund transfer
can be finalized within 7 to 9 banking days, after
you apply to the bank as the beneficiary of the fund
from the deceased.

When you receive this letter.Kindly send me an e-mail
or you can call me or fax me.You should also include
your private fax and phone numbers for easy and safe
communication.

When you receive this letter, Kindly get back to me
through this my privet Email, Tel or Fax :

Tel : 874-763648313
: 874-763648314
Fax : 874-763648315

Email: [email protected]

You should also include your private fax and phone
numbers for easy and safe communication.

Respectfully Yours,

Debeorisa Austine.

___________________________________________________________
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FROM:MR. ARIKO
#123CB/PBV,MAIN CITY, JO,BURG,
SOUTH AFRICA.
PHONE: +:PHONE:
+Tel: 874-763-648-313
Fax: 874-76-3648315

(PLEASE REPLY THROUGH MY PRIVATE E-MAIL)

{IN EARNEST,EFFICIENT,STRONG AND RELIABLE BUSINESS
TRANSACTION}

Dear Sir/Ma,

Do not be perplexed with this note, It�s all about
soliciting your attention to transfer the Sum
of{$48Million USD}.{$8M.USD} Will be transferred
first, on a solid agreement and well done as agreed by
both of us the remaining sum (balance)of $40Million
will be transferred accordingly as well.

As an Auditor General (AG) an Equivalent of an
American, Certified Public Accountant {C.P.A} as well,
a personal account officer to the Formal(Diseased), I
believe that we can do this business without any
Hitch, if only you will be trusted and then follow
simple yielding Instructions for a sound smooth
success of this Divine mercy(business), as I already
had a Dream, of God's presence and endorsement of this
business Transaction.We have marshaled out a solid
master plan/arrangements on how best to Actualize this
laudable objective, so we are not trying to experiment
with a transaction of this nature (MAGNITUDE), that
will not/never ever come my way again in my life time.
Our fears now is if this money will be safe in your
custody pending our physical arrival for sharing, etc.

If we agree and never to disagree again, you will
stand to get 30%,5% for the Orphanage, Poor/Less
Privileged, 5% for local and International
expenses incurred by both parties on the course of
transfer, while the balance of 60% will be for me and
my partner.

Note: The formal (diseased), died without Oral or
writing "WILL" and without any "HIRE", so the formal
as a foreigner,because he is a foreigner,
this fund can not be released or paid to an Indigene
here.IT MUST BE A FOREIGNER WITH A VALID INTERNATIONAL
PASS-PORT. So based on this, that is the most reason
why you are contacted in regards, as you know
INHERITANCE is not a crime all over the world, but
will be crime only when you did not follow the Rules,
Laws and rocedures of International Inheritance by
making triple sure to secureing all the necessary
transaction documents to back up the said Inheritance,
or other wise.

Waiting succinctly your positive response URGENTLY
through my private

reat regards,
ARIKO

______________________________________________________________________
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