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Hello list,

I use PINE 4.58. Is it possible to have the FCC's stored automatically in
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*** Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez ([email protected]) wrote...:

:) I use PINE 4.58. Is it possible to have the FCC's stored automatically
:) in mboxes (as usual) but inside a defined subdirectory of $HOME/mail/ ,
:) let's say, $HOME/mail/sent/ ?.

Hola Rodolfo,

 Yes, press M S C and set

default-fcc                      = sent/sent-mail

Salu2,

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I saw this in PINE but this may not be an issue with PINE per se.  But
here it is:

I sent a message to a PINE user with 5 jpeg attachments that were
roughly 600k in size each.  When the message arrived the totall size of
the mesage was larger than it should have been.   5x600k= 3 meg  but the
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 Is there some "overhead" added to attachement when they are sent? or
does it have to do with sending multiple attachments?  We use PINE 4.44
with Sendmail 8.11.

Thanks!

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On Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:11 AM [GMT-5=EST], Greg Dec <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I saw this in PINE but this may not be an issue with PINE per se.  But
> here it is:
>
> I sent a message to a PINE user with 5 jpeg attachments that were
> roughly 600k in size each.  When the message arrived the totall size of
> the mesage was larger than it should have been.   5x600k= 3 meg  but the
> size of the message was over 4 meg.   I looked at what the recipient
> received and the message stated the attachments were like 800k in size.
>   Is there some "overhead" added to attachement when they are sent? or
> does it have to do with sending multiple attachments?  We use PINE 4.44
> with Sendmail 8.11.
>


Thanks normal.  The encoding process for attachments using MIME adds some
overhead to ensure that the message can pass through mail servers that can't
handle pure binary data.
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*** James Cummings ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) Sitting in my INBOX, I finish reading new messages and press tab.
:) This takes me to a number of the other folders, but misses out some of
:) the incoming folders that I know (if I check manually) have messages
:) marked as New in them.

James,

Do you have any program that is monitoring those folders for new mail? Are
those folders local or remote?

When you say that there is a message that is marked New, do you mean that
that message was not in the folder the last time that you opened it (I
mean closed it, indeed)?. If the message was there the last time that you
were in that folder, but did not read it, the message is not NEW for the
purposes of this test (even though Pine may tell you that it's new because
it has a "N" next to it). If you think that this is your problem, I
recommend you that you switch your index-format variable so that you use
the IMAPSTATUS token instead of the STATUS token. For more information on
this press M S C, move the cursor to index-format and press "?". Messages
that are new for the purposes of the TAB test are marked N, and those that
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>Wonder if there's a workaround for this.
>As a pine and lynx user, I often suspend pine or lynx to do something on
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>Even control-c doesn't abort this mess. In short, I know of no way to get
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Does this _always_ happen?

I don't know the 'real' solution (sounds like it might be a job-control
issue on freebsd, as a handwaving explanation), but you could run under
screen, and then at least be able to kill the process(es) easily.

You might also try links, another text browser, simply to see if it has the
same problem.. then you might be able to narrow it down to lynx or pine.

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Is the inconsistency between shuffling
Filter Rules (where it asks for Up/Down) and
incoming mailboxes (where it asks for Forward/Back)
intentional?  Wouldn't it be easier if these were
all the same? (I like up/down personally.)

Also, with Filter rules, has the idea of being able to
group them been considered?  I have a lot of them, and
it would be useful to me to say "ok, here are all the ones
that deal with weblogs" "there are all the ones that deal
with mailing lists", etc.  Obviously I can shuffle these
so that they are all next to each other, but after you get
a screenful or two of rules this gets fiddly.



-James
(ps: Finding new mail in collections fine now. mea culpa.)

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, James Cummings wrote:
>
> Is the inconsistency between shuffling Filter Rules (where it asks for
> Up/Down) and incoming mailboxes (where it asks for Forward/Back)

i'm far from an expert on this, but i'd guess it's because filter rules
are always listed one per line, but incoming folders (like regular
folders) are listed left-to-right, and continue on the next line.

if your incoming folder nicknames are long, or you read mail on a small
terminal, you might only see one folder per line. if so, you might not
have noticed this distinction.

-Ryan

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Ryan Barrett wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, James Cummings wrote:
> >
> > Is the inconsistency between shuffling Filter Rules (where it asks for
> > Up/Down) and incoming mailboxes (where it asks for Forward/Back)
>
> i'm far from an expert on this, but i'd guess it's because filter rules
> are always listed one per line, but incoming folders (like regular
> folders) are listed left-to-right, and continue on the next line.

Both are listed one per line in my setup.
This is something users can configure. I prefer them to have a line
each.

>
> if your incoming folder nicknames are long, or you read mail on a small
> terminal, you might only see one folder per line. if so, you might not
> have noticed this distinction.

Nicknames are short, and my xterms can be quite large.


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I know that the maildir maildriver is not officially supported, but I only
mention it because it pointed out some things in pine that I think can be
improved.

I've been experiencing crashes when TAB-ing to other folders to see new
messages. After some debugging here's what I found:

When TAB-ing to the next folder, mail_status() is invoked.
That function returns SAFE_STATUS (dtb,stream,mbx,flags);
SAFE_STATUS is #defined as (*dtb->status) (stream,mbx,flags)
and the maildir driver has this in its driver struct:
 NIL,                          /* status of mailbox */
resulting in a call to a NULL function pointer.

I think that there are 2 reasons that this caused a problem at all.

1) The maildir driver does not implement the status function. This is
not really important for the people on this list I suppose, I'll take this
up with someone else.

2) Pine does not always check if the maildriver functions that it uses are
actually defined in the maildriver structure.

It does in the case of the subscribe function:

 return factory ?
   (factory->subscribe ?
    (*factory->subscribe) (stream,mailbox) : sm_subscribe (mailbox)) : NIL;

But not in the case of status (and several other functions):

 if (!dtb) return NIL;         /* only if valid */
 if (stream && ((dtb != stream->dtb) ||
                ((dtb->flags & DR_LOCAL) && strcmp (mbx,stream->mailbox) &&
                 strcmp (mbx,stream->original_mailbox))))
   stream = NIL;               /* stream not suitable */
 return SAFE_STATUS (dtb,stream,mbx,flags);

I can imagine that maildrivers are _required_ to implement some functions,
but the least pine could do is check these function pointers _at_startup_
and give a decent error message if it's NIL, so maildriver programmers
know immediately what's wrong.

For all functions that are optional (i.e. the rest of them), pine should
check if they are implemented _before_using_them_.

I would also like to know if status is one of those functions that is really
required. If so, I need to find some information on what this function is
supposed to do.

Any help will be appreciated.

Maurice van der Pot

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PC-pine 4.53 gives the message

"[ Malformed message. Use "H" to see raw text. ]"

when confronted with a multipart MIME message whose first body part is as
follows:

--=====================_1075847017==_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


--=====================_1075847017==_

The problem seems to be that according to RFC1521 the body part is empty
because all the blank lines are already spoken for in delimiting the
header and the next "encapsulation boundary".  When I added an extra blank
line then the whole message was OK.  The first body part then had 1
(blank) line.

I have seen this now in messages created with both Eudora and Outlook
Express.  The demime code in exiscan also chokes on such messages, but is
such a body part actually illegal?  I haven't managed to find anything
which says that it is in the RFC, and have had no success in searching the
Web.

TYIA

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hi
i know this might be an FAQ but searching things related to this
didn't take me to the exact how-to

have installed pine4.58 to OSX-Panther to do the mail things at it's
terminal

things online is working fine but since am on iBook-Tangerine
wanna take this machine out to caffe and show off in a "what about this
smart mail handling way?"

actually am not that smart enough to handle fetchmail for pine

tested fetchmail for procmail and could open /var/mail/mbox via vi
(could read the raw message inside of it)
so it must be working fine

now how do i do the settings to make fetchmail download mails for pine?

if there's a nice url for this FAQ
thanks in advance!!

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Hello Family,

I apologize in advance if this is answered easily somewhere
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(question)

My .pinerc already saves a sent message to the appropriate
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Can anyone point me to the solution?

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Bill Schoolcraft wrote:
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This .pinerc setting does for me since quite a while :)

customized-hdrs=Bcc: Some Address <[email protected]>

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I read mailing lists, and a typical index page looks like

      1 Feb 28 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr  (7495) BMCR 2003.02.40, Paul Woodruff
(trans.), S
 N   2 Mar  5 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr  (7207) BMCR 2003.03.06, Della
Bianca/Beta, Oinos,
 N   3 Mar  5 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (18K) BMCR 2003.03.07, F.W. Walbank,
Polybius, R
 N   4 Mar  6 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (12K) BMCR 2003.03.08, Karl Christ,
Sulla. Eine
      5 Mar  9 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (11K) BMCR 2003.03.10, Giovanni
Battista Piranes
 N   6 Mar  9 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (10K) BMCR 2003.03.11, Susan
Woodford, Images of
 N   7 Mar 10 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (20K) BMCR 2003.03.12, Greg Rowe,
Princes and Po
 N   8 Mar 12 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (26K) BMCR 2003.03.14, Whitmarsh,
Greek Literatu
 N   9 Mar 13 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (41K) BMCR 2003.03.15, Kovacs,
Euripides. Helen,
 N  10 Mar 14 owner-bmcr-l@brynmawr   (28K) BMCR 2003.03.17, Salomies
(ed.), The Greek

The problem is that I see lots of useless stuff and the actual subjects are
cut off.  How can I make
Pine not show the author of the message or the "BMCR 2003.03.17" part of the
subject?  Is
there anyway to get what is shown in the index to include the output of an
external program run on the message body?  (I ask because BMCR truncates the
subject lines themselves, so I can't see the full subjects even if I make my
screen super wide.  However the full subject lines can easily be extracted
from the message body.)

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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, ziv minot wrote:
>The problem is that I see lots of useless stuff and the actual subjects are
>cut off.  How can I make
>Pine not show the author of the message or the "BMCR 2003.03.17" part of the
>subject?  Is
>there anyway to get what is shown in the index to include the output of an
>external program run on the message body?  (I ask because BMCR truncates the

I don't think there's any way to run it through an external program, but look
at the help for the
index-format
setting in the configuration (from the main menu hit S then C) settings.

I only noticed this recently when looking through the settings.  I haven't
configured it, but it looks like it could be useful.

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Subject: multiple ldap servers / hang
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hi,

i have a couple of feature requests around ldap / address look-ups.

if i type a partially qualified name into the "To:" field in pine and if
the first ldap server returned in the relevant DNS look-up is down, pine
will hang, sending TCP SYNs forever, despite the fact that the DNS look-up
for the ldap server returned multiple responses.

e.g. if the DNS response for "ldap.company.com" returns
10.1.2.3
10.1.2.4
10.1.2.5

and if 10.1.2.3 is down or otherwise unresponsive, pine won't fail-over to
10.1.2.4 or 10.1.2.5 ... nor will the "^C Cancel" command work ... pine
just hangs there, sending TCP SYNs ad infinitum, until killed or until
10.1.2.3 starts responding.

my feature requests:
-^C Cancel would kill the look-up effort
-pine would fail-over to each of the other ldap servers returned in the
DNS response, as needed.  if all fail, then pine would return some kind of
error msg.


if anyone knows of a work-around for either of these, plse let me know.

--sk

Stuart Kendrick
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That's interesting.  But it looks like index-format is not per folder, so I
can't hide the sender in
mailing list messages without doing it for my regular inbox too.  Is this
right?


>From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: format of index
>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:11:22 -0800 (PST)
>
>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, ziv minot wrote:
> >The problem is that I see lots of useless stuff and the actual subjects
>are
> >cut off.  How can I make
> >Pine not show the author of the message or the "BMCR 2003.03.17" part of
>the
> >subject?  Is
> >there anyway to get what is shown in the index to include the output of
>an
> >external program run on the message body?  (I ask because BMCR truncates
>the
>
>I don't think there's any way to run it through an external program, but
>look
>at the help for the
>index-format
>setting in the configuration (from the main menu hit S then C) settings.
>
>I only noticed this recently when looking through the settings.  I haven't
>configured it, but it looks like it could be useful.

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, ziv minot wrote:

>That's interesting.  But it looks like index-format is not per
>folder, so I can't hide the sender in mailing list messages without
>doing it for my regular inbox too.  Is this right?

Currently I'm using a patched version of the Pine 4.58 from the
Eduardo's page (http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/) which
offers something like "index-rules" feature, where you can define many
different index formats. The help screen says it all:

                                                            OPTION: Index-Rule

   This option is used to superseed the value of the option index-format for
   specific folders. In this form you can have different index-formats for
   different folders. For example an entry here may be:

   _FOLDER_ == {INBOX} => _INDEX_{IMAPSTATUS DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%)}

   This configuration option is just one of many that allow you to override
   the value of some global configurations within Pine. There is a help text
   explaining how to define all of them, which you can read by following this
   link.

So I think this is what you are looking for. ;)

Regards,
Murphy

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*** Murphy ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, ziv minot wrote:
:)
:) >That's interesting.  But it looks like index-format is not per
:) >folder, so I can't hide the sender in mailing list messages without
:) >doing it for my regular inbox too.  Is this right?
:)
:) Currently I'm using a patched version of the Pine 4.58 from the
:) Eduardo's page (http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/) which
:) offers something like "index-rules" feature, where you can define many
:) different index formats.

You can also do this using the "Other" rules, press M S R O to set up one.
It's not as flexible as my patch, but for most needs works well. However,
for this problem I think that the best solution is to use the patch, since
it can be used to remove text from the subject when displaying the index
(take a look at the TRIM and REXTRIM tokens).

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.

OTCBB: LETH

Recommended Price---1.00

Results from latest 10-Q:

Working Capital--- 23.4 million vs. deficit

Total Assets--- 36.8 million vs. 16.8 million

10 day target--- 1.75

30 day target--- 3.20

Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Help for RCI Users wrote:
>Is there any way to use Pine to compose a message in HTML?  Specifically, I

argh!

HTML mail -- just say no!

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On Feb 23, 2004, 16:38 (-0500) Help for RCI Users <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is there any way to use Pine to compose a message in HTML?  Specifically, I
> have a user who wants to include a link in a message and not have the
> underlying URL be visible (except, of course, when viewing full headers).

I don't think there is any simple solution. I think most Pine users
prefer not to use html.

If you create an HTML file that could be attached as text/html. Besides
that, using a different mail client is probably the best solution.


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*** Help for RCI Users ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) Is there any way to use Pine to compose a message in HTML?
:) Specifically, I have a user who wants to include a link in a message
:) and not have the underlying URL be visible (except, of course, when
:) viewing full headers).

Yes. What needs to be done is to change the content-type to text/html.
This can not be done by editing headers, but it must be done at sending
time.


:)
:) At the moment when we send a message in what we think is html format it
:) is received as plain text containing all the html scripts

Hi,

 You should try to change the mime type of the message. Here's how to
change the type to text/html:

Create a script. Fore purposes of this message we will call it
"change_mime". This script should contain something like:

#!/bin/sh
echo -n "Content-Type:text/html" > $2

Do not forget to give yourself execution permission for this script
(otherwise Pine will not see it later!)

Go to your configuration file, and where it says sending-filters write

sending-filters=/full/path/to/change_mime _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_

Now when you press ^X to send the message you should be able to select the
filter "change_mime" when sending a message that you would like the
recipient to receive in text/html Content-Type.

Notice that there is an option "compose-send-offers-first-filter". Take a
look at the help for that feature to see if you want to enable it or not.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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I read in the archive something regarding this error.  I am seeing it
quite often (Pine 4.58)...

I wrote to a developer asking why his messages tended to trigger this
error.  This is what he said:

  Mmmh. It's a bug in SF / pine. Pine fails over the text that the SF
  mailman adds:

  http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click

  So technically SF should translate the =345 in QP, otherwise mailers
  could see this line as a QP line.


His messages, for what it's worth, are posted on a Source Forge mailing
list for Sylpheed Claws (a GUI mail reader).

I don't know if there is anything that Pine developers care to do about
this (they may not see the need, if it is a Source Forge problem), but it
may explain WHY it happens, at any rate.

Best of luck,


William Smith     [email protected]
Fall River, MA    http://www.chezsmith.com
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TLPE at 1.12    Currently 3.35  High 4.40 UP 293%
SWYC at .18     Currently .71   High .81 UP 350%
DNYY at .47     Currently 1.42  High 1.85 UP 294%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play
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Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
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Price--- 1.20
Sales Orders Received '03--- over $150 Million +300% growth vs. '02
Est. Sales Growth '04--- +165%
Results from latest 10-Q:
Total Assets--- 36.8 million vs. 16.8 million
Cash--- 23.4 million vs. deficit
Shareholders Equity--- 12.0 million vs. 2.2 million
Shares Outstanding--- 29 mill
Est. Shares in Float--- 7 mill
Proj. Value Per Share--- 3.25 -- 3.50
Rating--- Urgent Buy

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The unique proprietary technology of the Biosphere fills an urgent
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designed to significantly impact the global waste problem while
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:
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profits from the sale of electricity created from the waste conversion on =
a
continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity =

which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate permitting, =

installation and continuous worldwide monitoring of the Biosphere Process =

System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of obtaining Department =

of Environmental Quality permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state=
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Louisiana. This is a monumental event for LETH which opens the
floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel=

effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-term announcement.

LETH has begun to catch the profit-making attention of investors by
embracing a major foothold on the global waste problem while a major push =

for generating electricity from alternative sources continues to be the ho=
t
topic due to shortages and massive power failures. LETH contains all the
ingredients for major profits as global demand to solve two crisis areas, =

waste and electrical energy, reaches unprecedented levels. We view this
perfectly timed convergence of events as the catalyst for additional contr=
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that will perpetuate the shattering of the Company's own sales records. We=

are seeing substantial gains for early investors in a ground floor opportu=
nity
that carries our highest rating for short-term trading profits.

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may be forward looking statements within the meaning of The Private
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Wall Street Financial Times Newsletter

Specializing in Undervalued Small Cap Stocks for Immediate Breakout

We have the #1 track record for our picks in 2004:

GETC at .12             Currently .50   High .68 UP 467%
TLPE at 1.12    Currently 3.35  High 4.40 UP 293%
SWYC at .18     Currently .71   High .81 UP 350%
DNYY at .47     Currently 1.42  High 1.85 UP 294%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)

Price--- 1.35

Sales Orders Received '03--- over $150 Million +300% growth vs. '02
Est. Sales Growth '04--- +165%
Results from latest 10-Q:
Total Assets--- 36.8 million vs. 16.8 million
Cash--- 23.4 million vs. deficit
Shareholders Equity--- 12.0 million vs. 2.2 million
Shares Outstanding--- 29 mill
Est. Shares in Float--- 7 mill
Proj. Value Per Share--- 3.25 -- 3.50
Rating--- Urgent Buy

LETH is thriving as an emerging world leader in the conversion of waste
materials into electrical energy by utilizing their Biosphere Process Syst=
em,
making them the hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares=

are ready to explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for LETH with no signs of
slowing. The numbers continue to stack-up as sales orders for the Biospher=
e
exceed $150 Million over the past year while the stock price doesn't yet
reflect the appearance of these impressive figures on an upcoming balance =

sheet. We are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the stock is und=
er
accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this recently filed data.

The unique proprietary technology of the Biosphere fills an urgent
worldwide need for cost-effective renewable energy sources and a
corresponding universal need to solve critical problems in the disposal of=

waste. The Biosphere System provides the highest level of innovative
technology while securing worldwide acceptance for a revolutionary product=

designed to significantly impact the global waste problem while
simultaneously generating electricity.

The Biosphere System enables LETH to draw revenue from the disposal of
various types of waste at 5 to 7 tons per hour including such materials as=
:
Municipal Solid Waste, refinery wastes, agricultural surpluses or effluent=
s,
medical waste, industrial waste, shale oil, sour natural gas, and the huge=

market of used tires are all converted in the Biosphere Process. LETH also=

profits from the sale of electricity created from the waste conversion on =
a
continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity =

which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate permitting, =

installation and continuous worldwide monitoring of the Biosphere Process =

System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of obtaining Department =

of Environmental Quality permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state=
of
Louisiana. This is a monumental event for LETH which opens the
floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel=

effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-term announcement.

LETH has begun to catch the profit-making attention of investors by
embracing a major foothold on the global waste problem while a major push =

for generating electricity from alternative sources continues to be the ho=
t
topic due to shortages and massive power failures. LETH contains all the
ingredients for major profits as global demand to solve two crisis areas, =

waste and electrical energy, reaches unprecedented levels. We view this
perfectly timed convergence of events as the catalyst for additional contr=
acts
that will perpetuate the shattering of the Company's own sales records. We=

are seeing substantial gains for early investors in a ground floor opportu=
nity
that carries our highest rating for short-term trading profits.

Required LETH information: Certain statements contained in this newsletter=

may be forward looking statements within the meaning of The Private
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From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Need help regarding Pine version, design documentation and test
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 [email protected] wrote:

> I am planning to go for pine program as a case study in my research. I was
> able to download the software but i have problem downloading the version
> which i want.
> 1.I want to download pine4.50 and when i clicked on that its going to the
> page where i can download the software but ultimately when i downloaded
> the software its showing pine4.58 which is the current version. How to
> download the version which i want?

You can find old source at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu in the directory
/pine/old. Pine4.58 is sort of 4.50 with most of the bugs worked out.

> Since pine is a open source program
>
> 2. Is there proper design
> documentation and architecture for pine? If so where can I get it.

No such thing exists. Pine has been developed by a very small group of
people at the Univ. of Washington. Since it is such a small group there
has been no need for formal design plans. We just talk to each other.

> 3.Does pine program has proper test suites? If so where can i find them

No, unfortunately it does not.

> I will appreciate your help.
>
> Best regards,
> Sunil.

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Pine Development Team, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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