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From: Simon White <[email protected]>
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30-Jun-03 at 20:55, Mike A. Harris ([email protected]) wrote :
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Simon White wrote:
> >
> >Yes, you're probably not building with the correct build type - the lrh
> >for RH7.2 and later probably doesn't take into account the changes in
> >the filesystem (again) in RedHat...
>
> Please back such statements up with actual data to support your
> claims, and point out exactly how any such changes you can find
> violate any Linux standard.

Sorry?

I didn't say that it violated a standard, merely that it had changed. A
number of things break between major revisions of RedHat and other
distros, this is to be expected. They are not even expected to be binary
compatible. GCC versions change (RH is on GCC 3.x now, I believe)...

However, with regard to Pine, this means that the configuration that is
fixed in the build scripts for 7.x will probably not work with RH9.x...
because RH9.x adheres more strictly TO standards, ironically.

I don't see what was negative about my post nor why you took umbrage to
it, I'm just trying to help the person who is unable to compile.

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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Simon White wrote:

> > claims, and point out exactly how any such changes you can find
> > violate any Linux standard.
>
> Sorry?
>
> I didn't say that it violated a standard, merely that it had changed. A
> number of things break between major revisions of RedHat and other
> distros, this is to be expected. They are not even expected to be binary
> compatible. GCC versions change (RH is on GCC 3.x now, I believe)...
>
> However, with regard to Pine, this means that the configuration that is
> fixed in the build scripts for 7.x will probably not work with RH9.x...
> because RH9.x adheres more strictly TO standards, ironically.
>
> I don't see what was negative about my post nor why you took umbrage to
> it, I'm just trying to help the person who is unable to compile.

I've still not seen, probably missed it, where the compile errors have
been posted.

I've compiled pine 4.56 on RH9 just fine...

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01-Jul-03 at 15:56, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote :
> I've still not seen, probably missed it, where the compile errors have
> been posted.
>
> I've compiled pine 4.56 on RH9 just fine...

Maybe SSL isn't installed on the machine that won't compile it, or the
libs are not being "found" somehow, I don't know.

Maybe the original poster could confirm that he has the SSL libraries
installed (not just SSL applications, but the headers and stuff)?

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From: Hong Tian <[email protected]>
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Ed,

I tried to compile Pine 4.56 on RedHat9/gcc 3.2.2, but I got the errors as
followings. Do you know how to resolve it?

Thanks,
Hong
--------------

# uname -srv
Linux 2.4.20-6 #1 Thu Feb 27 10:06:59 EST 2003

# rpm -qa | grep openssl
openssl-0.9.7a-5
openssl-devel-0.9.7a-5

# gcc -v
gcc version 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)

# tar xvf pine.tar
# cd pine4.56
# ./build SSLDIR=/usr/share/ssl \
> SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs \
> SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl \
> SSLLIB=/usr/lib \
> lrh
.....
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:72:18: krb5.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:179,
from osdep.c:218:
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:132: parse error before "krb5_enctype"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:134: parse error before "FAR"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:135: parse error before '}' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:147: parse error before "kssl_ctx_setstring"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:147: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:148: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:149: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:149: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:150: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:151: parse error before "kssl_ctx_setprinc"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:151: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:153: parse error before "kssl_cget_tkt"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:153: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:155: parse error before "kssl_sget_tkt"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:155: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:157: parse error before "kssl_ctx_setkey"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:157: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:159: parse error before "context"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:160: parse error before "kssl_build_principal_2"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:160: parse error before "context"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:163: parse error before "kssl_validate_times"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:163: parse error before "atime"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:165: parse error before "kssl_check_authent"
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:165: parse error before '*' token
/usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:167: parse error before "enctype"
In file included from osdep.c:218:
/usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:909: parse error before "KSSL_CTX"
/usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:909: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:931: parse error before '}' token
make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/download/pine4.56/imap/c-client'
make[2]: *** [lnp] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/download/pine4.56/imap/c-client'
make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/download/pine4.56/imap'
make: *** [lrh] Error 2
+---------------------------------------------+
| Problems building c-client |
| |
| Please check the output above for a |
| possible explanation for this failure |
+---------------------------------------------+

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Greshko [mailto:[email protected]]
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Simon White wrote:

> > claims, and point out exactly how any such changes you can find
> > violate any Linux standard.
>
> Sorry?
>
> I didn't say that it violated a standard, merely that it had changed. A
> number of things break between major revisions of RedHat and other
> distros, this is to be expected. They are not even expected to be binary
> compatible. GCC versions change (RH is on GCC 3.x now, I believe)...
>
> However, with regard to Pine, this means that the configuration that is
> fixed in the build scripts for 7.x will probably not work with RH9.x...
> because RH9.x adheres more strictly TO standards, ironically.
>
> I don't see what was negative about my post nor why you took umbrage to
> it, I'm just trying to help the person who is unable to compile.

I've still not seen, probably missed it, where the compile errors have
been posted.

I've compiled pine 4.56 on RH9 just fine...

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01-Jul-03 at 08:40, Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote :
> I tried to compile Pine 4.56 on RedHat9/gcc 3.2.2, but I got the errors as
> followings. Do you know how to resolve it?
> # tar xvf pine.tar
> # cd pine4.56
> # ./build SSLDIR=/usr/share/ssl \
> > SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs \
> > SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl \
> > SSLLIB=/usr/lib \
> > lrh

Are these the correct paths?

> ......
> /usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:72:18: krb5.h: No such file or directory

Do you need kerberos? Disabling it would be easier, but you have a
problem with not having kerberos devel libs, maybe? Does "locate krb5.h"
find anything?

All the errors appear to be related to kerberos...

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I need SSL, but don't need Kerberos. I know I can disable SSL by using
"NOSSL". Is there a option like NOKERBEROS? Do you know how to disable
Kerberos?

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon White [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Compiling pine 4.4.5 on RedHat9/gcc 3.2.2 (fwd)

01-Jul-03 at 08:40, Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote :
> I tried to compile Pine 4.56 on RedHat9/gcc 3.2.2, but I got the errors as
> followings. Do you know how to resolve it?
> # tar xvf pine.tar
> # cd pine4.56
> # ./build SSLDIR=/usr/share/ssl \
> > SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs \
> > SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl \
> > SSLLIB=/usr/lib \
> > lrh

Are these the correct paths?

> ......
> /usr/include/openssl/kssl.h:72:18: krb5.h: No such file or directory

Do you need kerberos? Disabling it would be easier, but you have a
problem with not having kerberos devel libs, maybe? Does "locate krb5.h"
find anything?

All the errors appear to be related to kerberos...

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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Ed Greshko wrote:

>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:58:57 +0800
>From: Ed Greshko <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
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>Subject: Re: Compiling pine 4.4.5 on RedHat9/gcc 3.2.2 (fwd)
>
>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Simon White wrote:
>
>> > claims, and point out exactly how any such changes you can find
>> > violate any Linux standard.
>>
>> Sorry?
>>
>> I didn't say that it violated a standard, merely that it had changed. A
>> number of things break between major revisions of RedHat and other
>> distros, this is to be expected. They are not even expected to be binary
>> compatible. GCC versions change (RH is on GCC 3.x now, I believe)...
>>
>> However, with regard to Pine, this means that the configuration that is
>> fixed in the build scripts for 7.x will probably not work with RH9.x...
>> because RH9.x adheres more strictly TO standards, ironically.
>>
>> I don't see what was negative about my post nor why you took umbrage to
>> it, I'm just trying to help the person who is unable to compile.
>
>I've still not seen, probably missed it, where the compile errors have
>been posted.
>
>I've compiled pine 4.56 on RH9 just fine...

I have as well, which is why I responded to his FUD mail. ;o)

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I have a mailserver using qmail as Mail Transfer Agent, and use
Maildir as qmail script not Mailbox. When open pine, there is message :

can`t open Maildir:not selectable folder

I`ve changed
1. file /var/qmail/rc become :

qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail

2. file .pinerc

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Can somebody solve my problem?

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02-Jul-03 at 22:00, Nugroho Pratomo Ariyanto ([email protected]) wrote :
>
> I have a mailserver using qmail as Mail Transfer Agent, and use
> Maildir as qmail script not Mailbox. When open pine, there is message :
>
> can`t open Maildir:not selectable folder

I don't believe that Pine supports Maildir:

http://www.washington.edu/imap/documentation/formats.txt.html

However c-client apparently has 3rd party patches for it. Maybe I'm
wrong and it's only the IMAP server from UW that doesn't support it,
maybe someone else can shed some light on this.

Solution: access Maildir folders from Pine via an IMAP server from
Courier or Cyrus.

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I have built Pine4.56 for linux and have used all the defaults, setting
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correctly viewable in my sent-mail folder when viewed on that same host e.g.

21 Feb 6 To: User Support (7565) Re: mercury

However, when I log on to a different linux host (e.g. pc2.dur.ac.uk)
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being from my mail name, without the To: part:

21 Feb 6 D T Rand (7565) Re: mercury

This is presumably something to do with the fact that the messages are
stored in the sent-mail folder with the hostname in the form:

From [email protected] Sat Feb 21 17:27:50 2003 +0000

It may be of relevance that our NIS domain name is "cc".

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Hi,

when using the quell-content-id feature for better interoperability with MS
Outlook, Pine crashes if both of the following conditions hold:

- more than one attachment
- the resulting message is rejected by the smtp server (e.g. because it is too big)

Pine crashes in pine/send.c:7401 because part->body.id is 0x0 on the second part
- which is bad for strcmp((*ppa)->id, part->body.id)

I tried to fix this (see the attached diff), but now the message header gets
corrupted if pine returns from an unsuccessful attempt to send the message via
smtp. Symptoms I experienced:
- one of the attachment was deleted from the list but stored when postponing
- a string like "UNEXPECTED DATA after ..." was appended to the recipient list

Maybe you wizards could have a look ?

Heiko Rommel
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I am currently running Pine 4.21 on a Redhat 6.2 box.

We frequently get emails which say something like:

[The following is in Windows-1252 Character Set]
[Your display is set for ISO-8859-1]
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How can I get Pine to accept both the Windows-1252 and this
iso-8859-1.

I assume that if this is fixed, that the special Spanish characters
will show up correctly on the screen and print correctly on the
printer. (or is this a separate problem.)

I don't anticipate udating to a newer Redhat version on this server
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Can anyone give me pointers on this one, please.

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Greetings=2C

Did you get my mail=2C the one i sent yesterday=2C because i never got your reply=3F Is it that you never got it or you don't want to help=2C Im hurt
My chest is ripping=2E Why don't you see=3F I need your help=2E Why wouldn't you answer when I need you the most=3F Are you going to leave me and my family for thr Darkness to swallow our light=2C drifting into the night with blurry vision=2C slim sight no where to turn=2C no way to fight=2E It can't be possible=2E I feel we can do this together and both have good results at the end=2C For you its good pay and friend=2C for me freedom and safety =2E Hope you are in a Good state of Mind=2E to hear me now=2E We are one=2C under the Shelter of the Most High=2E I know its hard on your side due to present scam on the Internet but please this is not one ot them=2C I have proof of all my claims=2E

I am the only hope for my kids=2C because their Father is dead=2E My heart is filled with sorrow=2C The future we planned for our kids is shattered=2C and i have to move on because that's the only way i can make him proud=2C as he watches over us from the sky=2E Before he died we were planning to leave Angola for the United States of America with our entire Household=2C but some how unknown people assassinated him while he was driving home and my brother in-law Fredrick lost his wife and 3 kids that same day in that accident=2E I have lived my life in confusion=2C not knowing what's going on=2C not even seeing or knowing how it will end=2E

My Husband was Founder of The National Independence for the Total Independence of Angola=2C Jonas Savimbi=2C which was the reason of his suddenenemies=2E As a woman each time i remember how he died=2C i always feel like its High time we left this Country=2C which is the Basic reason of this Contact=2E We wish to leave this country to seek greener pastures overseas=2E

Myself and my brother In-law Fredrick have been trying to reach out for help=2C and we were able to raise money from the Sale of our Family House=2C from My husbands personal savings and most especially from the Savings of the Organization and Diamond Royalties and Companies that mined precious stones in the areas he controlled in Angola=2E At the conclusion of our quest to raise money from all these sources=2C we realized Seventy- Five Million United States Dollars=2E We did not have any bank to save such a huge amount for us or transfer them to a foreign account=2E

Hoodlums and thieves gradually disturbed us=2E Inside it's tearing me apart=2C but i have to keep it together=2C so i moved on=2E We decided to arrange the Funds in 4 trunks boxes and took it along with us to Mauritius=2E The boxes of money as been lodged=2C as photo material and artifacts on behalf of a foreigner with a security company here in Mauritius for safekeeping=2E Now need your assistance and cooperation in getting the funds overseas from Mauritius=2E

I am willing to give you give you a certain percentage of this fund=2E I will be happy if you could serve as our guardian=2E The money is useless to us here=2C as we can't spend it here=2E If we could get them out of here we could easily meet up with it elsewhere=2E But i can't do that on my own=2C as movement and association with the outside world is restricted for now

Please its no longer safe here anymore for me=2C i don't even know what the future holds for my kids=2C they have stopped school for 5 months now=2E -I wish to assure you of a good business relationship and all logistic is in place for success at the end of this=2E Please try to forward me a phone number i can reach you so i can give you more details on the exact role which is required of you for the successfully conclusion of this transaction's I look forward to your earliest response=2C Please I need your help and I believe with your help my life and that of my family will be safe=2E

Peace=2C Reconciliation and Progress
Rosa=2E

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Maybe this has been discussed already, Im too lazy to look.

My one folder is thread-sorted. I reply to an email message that
contains no Subject line. The FCC is the same folder as the message Im
replying to.

After the message is sent and FCC'd, there's no indication of a thread.
However using the / key shows my reply underneath the original.

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+ 468 Jun 24 [email protected] (639)
+ 470 Jun 24 [email protected] (720)

+ A 468 Jun 24 [email protected] (639)
469 Jun 24 To: [email protected] (539) |-Re: dinner?
+ 470 Jun 24 [email protected] (720)

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What I expect is something like this:
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438 Jun 19 To: Mousy (1236) - Shape toys
+ A 439 Jun 19 Mousy (1899) - |-Re: Shape toys
440 Jun 19 To: Mousy (2041) - |-Re: Shape toys
+ 441 Jun 19 Mousy (894) |-discovery

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chappa: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:54:51 -0700 (PDT)
chappa: From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
chappa: To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
chappa: Subject: Re: 'NextNew' using threaded message index
chappa:
chappa: *** [email protected] wrote in the pine-info list today:
chappa:
chappa: :) How can I make TAB (or any key) jump to new messages ANYWHERE within a
chappa: :) folder?
chappa:
chappa: You can't TAB backwards or cyclically. I don't like this, but that's the
chappa: way it is. The best that you can do is to select messages by status (say
chappa: New) and zoom on the folder. In this way, all new messages will be listed
chappa: one after the other.
chappa:
chappa: --
chappa: Eduardo
chappa: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
chappa:

Much like web browsers, couldnt SHIFT+TAB be used the jump backwards?

There's an idea.

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Allow me to clarify:

Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:01:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Birl <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Threads and empty subject lines in 4.55

Maybe this has been discussed already, Im too lazy to look.

My one folder is thread-sorted. I reply to an email message that
contains no Subject line. The FCC is the same folder as the message Im
replying to.

After the message is sent and FCC'd, there's no indication of a thread.
However using the / key shows my reply underneath the original.

Example:
-------

+ 468 Jun 24 [email protected] (639)
+ 470 Jun 24 [email protected] (720)

+ A 468 Jun 24 [email protected] (639)
469 Jun 24 To: [email protected] (539) |-Re: dinner?
+ 470 Jun 24 [email protected] (720)

========================================================================================

What I expect is something like this: (note the - here | which are
| absent above)
------------------------------------ |
v

438 Jun 19 To: Mousy (1236) - Shape toys
+ A 439 Jun 19 Mousy (1899) - |-Re: Shape toys
440 Jun 19 To: Mousy (2041) - |-Re: Shape toys
+ 441 Jun 19 Mousy (894) |-discovery

Has this issue already been covered?
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> Allow me to clarify:
>
> [...]
>
> What I expect is something like this: (note the - here | which are
> | absent above)
> ------------------------------------ |
> v
>
> 438 Jun 19 To: Mousy (1236) - Shape toys
> + A 439 Jun 19 Mousy (1899) - |-Re: Shape toys
> 440 Jun 19 To: Mousy (2041) - |-Re: Shape toys
> + 441 Jun 19 Mousy (894) |-discovery
>
>
> Has this issue already been covered?

No, it has not been covered. I've attached a patch relative to 4.56 source
code. The patched routine is the same in 4.55, so the patch should work
there as well. Thanks!

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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HI-
has anyone encountered difficulty printing (Pine 4.44) using Mac OS
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must not be setting the printer correctly on unix. Any helpful advice?

thanks so much,

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I was simply trying to 'go' from my INBOX to my suspected_spam folder.

This is with pine 4.33, sorry, so it may very well be fixed already..

Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxnet.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...bdone.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-1/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done.
#0 0xef5c5ca0 in _malloc_unlocked ()
(gdb) bt
#0 0xef5c5ca0 in _malloc_unlocked ()
#1 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#2 0xef5d3e04 in get_pri_dirs ()
#3 0xef5d3784 in ttyname_r ()
#4 0x13b3ac in tty_chmod ()
#5 0x13b4a0 in end_tty_driver ()
#6 0x1006f0 in panic ()
#7 0x11ebb0 in auger_in_signal ()
#8 <signal handler called>
#9 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
#10 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#11 0x188000 in fs_get (size=100) at fs_unix.c:30
#12 0x186458 in mail_new_cache_elt (msgno=181) at mail.c:4847
#13 0x17a09c in mm_cache (stream=0x389450, msgno=181, op=30) at mail.c:141
#14 0x17cbe0 in mail_elt (stream=0x389450, msgno=181) at mail.c:1087
#15 0x1aeb78 in unix_parse (stream=0x389450, lock=0xefffc308, op=1768743)
at unix.c:1149
#16 0x1ac290 in unix_open (stream=0x389450) at unix.c:408
#17 0x17c9e0 in mail_open (stream=0x389450,
name=0xefffdd68 "mail/suspected_spam", options=0) at mail.c:999
#18 0x10084c in pine_mail_open ()
#19 0x65294 in context_open ()
#20 0xa86d8 in do_broach_folder ()
#21 0xa9648 in visit_folder ()
#22 0x9e750 in process_cmd ()
#23 0xb1bbc in index_lister ()
#24 0xb0df0 in mail_index_screen ()
#25 0xfbe88 in main ()
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I copied this setting from a global 4.53 pine.conf file (on server A):

inbox-path="IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX

to my personal 4.55 .pinerc file, stripping "inbox-path=",
under "folder-collections="

ie:
folder-collections={imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX

But Pine doesnt like the fact that [] is missing from the
folder-collections line.

Ive also tried:

folder-collections="IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX[]
folder-collections="IMAP Folders" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}[]

Neither allow me to access my remote INBOX. I can access my remote
folders with the 2nd string, but my remote INBOX is not in that folder
list.

I tried configuring my .pinerc's "inbox-path", but I cannot have 2 INBOXes
at the same time. The one overwrites the other.

I want to keep my local INBOX (on server B) as the primary, but I want the
ability to check the INBOX of the IMAP server (server C).

What am I doing wrong? Or is this not supported?

Thanks.
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Hi Birl!

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> Ive also tried:
>
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> folder-collections="IMAP Folders" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}[]
>
> What am I doing wrong? Or is this not supported?
>

You must use "Setup -> collectionLists"

I hope that helps.

Bye

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Rico Barth said unto me:

Rico: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:06:20 +0200 ([iso-8859-1] Westeurop=E4isch=
e Sommerzeit)
Rico: From: Rico Barth <[email protected]>
Rico: To: Birl <[email protected]>
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Rico: Subject: Re: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen
Rico:
Rico:
Rico: Hi Birl!
Rico:
Rico: On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
Rico:
Rico: > Ive also tried:
Rico: >
Rico: > folder-collections=3D"IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-=
cert}INBOX[]
Rico: > folder-collections=3D"IMAP Folders" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidat=
e-cert}[]
Rico: >
Rico: > What am I doing wrong? Or is this not supported?
Rico: >
Rico:
Rico: You must use "Setup -> collectionLists"
Rico:
Rico: I hope that helps.
Rico:
Rico: Bye
Rico:
Rico: Rico

Nope.

It added
"IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX[]

to my .pinerc file, which was one of the methods I already tried

As I mentioned in the original post, the remote IMAP server does not have
INBOX listed with the other IMAP folders. Totally separated.

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*** Birl ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) [Deleted configuration of Pine]
:) I want to keep my local INBOX (on server B) as the primary, but I want
:) the ability to check the INBOX of the IMAP server (server C).
:)
:) What am I doing wrong? Or is this not supported?

Der Birl,

I discuss how to configure "incoming folders" in my web page, take a look
at this page:

http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/collections/incoming-folders/

I hope this helps.

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Eduardo Chappa said unto me:

chappa: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
chappa: From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
chappa: To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
chappa: Subject: Re: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen
chappa:
chappa: *** Birl ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
chappa:
chappa: :) [Deleted configuration of Pine]
chappa: :) I want to keep my local INBOX (on server B) as the primary, but I want
chappa: :) the ability to check the INBOX of the IMAP server (server C).
chappa: :)
chappa: :) What am I doing wrong? Or is this not supported?
chappa:
chappa: Der Birl,
chappa:
chappa: I discuss how to configure "incoming folders" in my web page, take a look
chappa: at this page:
chappa:
chappa: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/collections/incoming-folders/
chappa:
chappa: I hope this helps.
chappa:
chappa: Eduardo
chappa: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

In a way it does.

I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather
the "Collection List" screen (M L Main screen --> Folder List).
The same screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.

I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed), with
TAB cycling turned on. I have no intention of constantly checking this
backup email account every time I press the TAB key.

So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite what
Im looking for.

Maybe it can be in a future release?

Thanks.
Birl

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> In a way it does.
>
> I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather
> the "Collection List" screen (M L Main screen --> Folder List).
> The same screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.
>
> I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed), with
> TAB cycling turned on. I have no intention of constantly checking this
> backup email account every time I press the TAB key.
>
> So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite what
> Im looking for.
>
> Maybe it can be in a future release?

sticking to features currently in pine, open two
copies of pine in different windows, using
different .pinerc files specifying each INBOX in
one of them.

Possibly some variation of what I do would help -
I have a number of rules that move messages into
different local folders, having one of the
folders, named "local" as a catchall for mail that
is not automatically sorted. When I am not
actively cycling through the incoming folders
(using <tab>) I leave the "local" box open on the
screen. Pine continues to scan the INBOX
periodically, quietly moving mail to various
folders and beeping when some message appears in
INBOX and does not get moved out, but also beeping
when it notices that it has put new mail into the
"open" mailbox, "local".

I have no idea if that would work with both of the
boxes being IMAP boxes, can't think of any reason
why it would not.

dan

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daniel lance herrick said unto me:

dan: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:23:59 -0400 (EDT)
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dan: Subject: Re: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen
dan:
dan:
dan:
dan: On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
dan:
dan: > In a way it does.
dan: >
dan: > I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather
dan: > the "Collection List" screen (M L Main screen --> Folder List).
dan: > The same screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.
dan: >
dan: > I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed), with
dan: > TAB cycling turned on. I have no intention of constantly checking this
dan: > backup email account every time I press the TAB key.
dan: >
dan: > So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite what
dan: > Im looking for.
dan: >
dan: > Maybe it can be in a future release?
dan:
dan:
dan:
dan: sticking to features currently in pine, open two
dan: copies of pine in different windows, using
dan: different .pinerc files specifying each INBOX in
dan: one of them.

But that would be too easy :P

dan: Possibly some variation of what I do would help -
dan: I have a number of rules that move messages into
dan: different local folders, having one of the
dan: folders, named "local" as a catchall for mail that
dan: is not automatically sorted. When I am not
dan: actively cycling through the incoming folders
dan: (using <tab>) I leave the "local" box open on the
dan: screen. Pine continues to scan the INBOX
dan: periodically, quietly moving mail to various
dan: folders and beeping when some message appears in
dan: INBOX and does not get moved out, but also beeping
dan: when it notices that it has put new mail into the
dan: "open" mailbox, "local".

It's not a filtering-type issue. The IMAP account is nothing more than a
backup email account that I have to clean out every now and again.

dan: I have no idea if that would work with both of the
dan: boxes being IMAP boxes, can't think of any reason
dan: why it would not.
dan:
dan: dan

FTR, there's only 1 local INBOX and 1 IMAP INBOX.

Or maybe I miss understand your point?

Thanks.

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*** Birl ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather the
:) "Collection List" screen (M L Main screen --> Folder List). The same
:) screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.
:)
:) I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed),
:) with TAB cycling turned on. I have no intention of constantly checking
:) this backup email account every time I press the TAB key.
:)
:) So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite
:) what Im looking for.
:)
:) Maybe it can be in a future release?

That's of course an interesting idea. I like the current set up, but
several people have mentioned that they would like the setup that you are
proposing. Pine is not flexible enough to do this for you.

The people that you need to ask for this feature read this mailing list
too, although I don't recall having seen an answer to this feature
request.

Eduardo
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On Jun 25, 2003, 10:11 (-0700) Bailo, John <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are 25,000 emails in a PINE account that I want to forward, as
> individual messages to another account.

There are two ways transfering a received mail to another account, using
traditional forward or resending the email ("bounce").

With traditional forward you create a new email, in which you incorporate
the "old" email. That incorporation could be just inlining, or as MIME
digest.

With resending you just put the mail into the mail stream again keeping
all headers untouched with the following exceptions: The "Received"
headers are downgraded to "X-Received", and a number of "Resend" headers
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With traditional forward you can add a comment to the receipient on why
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> The emails are still all bundled together and sent.

Select "bounce" and the messages are sent one by one.

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Greetings!

"#" allows a user to choose a role to compose a new message with. In index
and message views, could it also allow the user to reply to the current
message using the selected role? I believe adding "R [ReplyAs]" to the
role selector screen would work.

I know that I can have Pine always ask me for a role when I reply, but in
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Hi,

I save a copy of each outgoing message into an IMAP Folder (File
Carbon Copy). From time to time I get a "Folder Closed Due To Access
Error" for the folder I want to save to. After that error the Inbox
folder has the same access error.

As a workaround I send each outgoing message to myself (Bcc). After
the access error I have to exit and start PC-Pine (version 4.55) and
then save the message I had sent to myself into the folder I
originally wanted to save it. I saw this problem with any older
PC-Pine version.

My impression is that something goes wrong with the connection.
Perhaps the IMAP server disconnects the connection from time to time?
But its not predictable. We use the Microsoft Exchange Server
(IMAP4rev1, Version 5.5.2653.23). Perhaps that is the problem :-(

Did anybody else see this problem? How can it fixed?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Hello,

I've been an avid pine user for, geez, 8 years or so. Each release is
always exciting, and I keep finding more and more cool features that I
love.

However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
don't get messages everyday.

If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).

Thanks in advance!

Bryan

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I have a question about PC-Pine. (So glad its pine and pico have been
ported to Winblows) My question is. Is it possable to setup a local inbox?
Currently my inbox is my default pop3 account. I would like to keep a
local copy of the mail rather than having to login into my pop3 to get my
mail. If not thats fine and I will just use it as is. As much as I like
pine and pico I am not overly knowledgeable about how much can be
configured with in it.

Thank you in advance for any information you are able to relay to me.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've been an avid pine user for, geez, 8 years or so. Each release is
> always exciting, and I keep finding more and more cool features that I
> love.
>
> However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
> and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
> help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
> don't get messages everyday.
>
> If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
> please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
> didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).
>

I have no patch but would like to join your call for this feature ;)
A split view (right side shows folder names and count of messages) would be even better.

Heiko Rommel
SuSE Linux AG

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On 14 Jul 2003 Mark Johanson ([email protected]) wrote:
> Is it possable to setup a local inbox?
> Currently my inbox is my default pop3 account. I would like to keep a
> local copy of the mail rather than having to login into my pop3 to get my
> mail.

Do you want your 'local inbox' to be synchronized with your remote
inbox? If so, Pine doesn't do that but there are tools that you
can use to do that, some of which I list here:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#linksSync>

If you want to snarf the remote inbox down to your 'local inbox',
Pine 4.55 and later can do that using the maildrop feature and
the #move namespace. I have some details and links here:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvMove>

Hope that helps,
Nancy

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Karsten Wolff wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I save a copy of each outgoing message into an IMAP Folder (File
> Carbon Copy). From time to time I get a "Folder Closed Due To Access
> Error" for the folder I want to save to. After that error the Inbox
> folder has the same access error.
>
> As a workaround I send each outgoing message to myself (Bcc). After
> the access error I have to exit and start PC-Pine (version 4.55) and
> then save the message I had sent to myself into the folder I
> originally wanted to save it. I saw this problem with any older
> PC-Pine version.
>
> My impression is that something goes wrong with the connection.
> Perhaps the IMAP server disconnects the connection from time to time?
> But its not predictable. We use the Microsoft Exchange Server
> (IMAP4rev1, Version 5.5.2653.23). Perhaps that is the problem :-(
>
> Did anybody else see this problem? How can it fixed?
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Karsten
>
I have the same problem once in a while (with pcpine). It happens \
when, after working on something else for an extended period (say,
about 3 minutes).
It has nothing to do (at least in my case) with the IMAP server: it
happens when I save the outgoing mail to a local SENT folder. But
(again in my case) the message, though irritating, is harmless:
after leaving pcpine and restarting it, I find that the message has
be properly saved!

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Hi,

I didn't try saving a message to a local folder. But for an IMAP
folder I get somtimes an "Access Error" or much worse the mail is
saved but corrupt afterwords (no header, text and attachment line
jumbled). This happens more often the bigger the mail is.

Karsten

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Cornelius C. Noack wrote:

> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:09:08 +0200 ((MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit)
> From: Cornelius C. Noack <[email protected]>
> To: Karsten Wolff <[email protected]>
> Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.55: INBOX folder closed due to Acess Error
>
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Karsten Wolff wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I save a copy of each outgoing message into an IMAP Folder (File
> > Carbon Copy). From time to time I get a "Folder Closed Due To Access
> > Error" for the folder I want to save to. After that error the Inbox
> > folder has the same access error.
> >
> > As a workaround I send each outgoing message to myself (Bcc). After
> > the access error I have to exit and start PC-Pine (version 4.55) and
> > then save the message I had sent to myself into the folder I
> > originally wanted to save it. I saw this problem with any older
> > PC-Pine version.
> >
> > My impression is that something goes wrong with the connection.
> > Perhaps the IMAP server disconnects the connection from time to time?
> > But its not predictable. We use the Microsoft Exchange Server
> > (IMAP4rev1, Version 5.5.2653.23). Perhaps that is the problem :-(
> >
> > Did anybody else see this problem? How can it fixed?
> > Any help is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karsten
> >
> I have the same problem once in a while (with pcpine). It happens \
> when, after working on something else for an extended period (say,
> about 3 minutes).
> It has nothing to do (at least in my case) with the IMAP server: it
> happens when I save the outgoing mail to a local SENT folder. But
> (again in my case) the message, though irritating, is harmless:
> after leaving pcpine and restarting it, I find that the message has
> be properly saved!
>
> ccn.
>

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Heiko Rommel said unto me:

rommel: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:13:09 +0200 (CEST)
rommel: From: Heiko Rommel <[email protected]>
rommel: To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
rommel: Subject: Re: looking for feature/patch
rommel:
rommel: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:
rommel:
rommel: > Hello,
rommel: >
rommel: > I've been an avid pine user for, geez, 8 years or so. Each release is
rommel: > always exciting, and I keep finding more and more cool features that I
rommel: > love.
rommel: >
rommel: > However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
rommel: > and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
rommel: > help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
rommel: > don't get messages everyday.
rommel: >
rommel: > If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
rommel: > please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
rommel: > didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).
rommel: >
rommel:
rommel: I have no patch but would like to join your call for this feature ;)
rommel: A split view (right side shows folder names and count of messages) would be even better.
rommel:
rommel: Heiko Rommel
rommel: SuSE Linux AG

Knowing that the original poster has been using Pine a little longer than
I have (at least 6 years for me), I would like to recall to memory the
following feature:

Say you have a series of "Incoming Folders" setup. In the index screen of
(let's say) the INBOX, if you press TAB, Pine will go to the next folder
in the list. If there's new email in that folder it will ask you if you
want to read X number of new messages, otherwise it skips that inactive
folder.

Does this current feature suit your needs?

Just curious.
Birl

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> Heiko Rommel said unto me:
>
> rommel: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:13:09 +0200 (CEST)
> rommel: From: Heiko Rommel <[email protected]>
> rommel: To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> rommel: Subject: Re: looking for feature/patch
> rommel:
> rommel: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:
> rommel:
> rommel: > Hello,
> rommel: >
> rommel: > I've been an avid pine user for, geez, 8 years or so. Each release is
> rommel: > always exciting, and I keep finding more and more cool features that I
> rommel: > love.
> rommel: >
> rommel: > However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
> rommel: > and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
> rommel: > help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
> rommel: > don't get messages everyday.
> rommel: >
> rommel: > If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
> rommel: > please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
> rommel: > didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).
> rommel: >
> rommel:
> rommel: I have no patch but would like to join your call for this feature ;)
> rommel: A split view (right side shows folder names and count of messages) would be even better.
> rommel:
> rommel: Heiko Rommel
> rommel: SuSE Linux AG
>
>
> Knowing that the original poster has been using Pine a little longer than
> I have (at least 6 years for me), I would like to recall to memory the
> following feature:
>
> Say you have a series of "Incoming Folders" setup. In the index screen of
> (let's say) the INBOX, if you press TAB, Pine will go to the next folder
> in the list. If there's new email in that folder it will ask you if you
> want to read X number of new messages, otherwise it skips that inactive
> folder.
>
> Does this current feature suit your needs?
>

Not excactly. Consider you wait for answers in folder xxx while reading mails in your INBOX.
If you press TAB you might be asked if you would like to see new mails in vvv
just because vvv is before xxx in the folder list and vvv has new mails in it.

Being able to see the status of each incoming folder while reading INBOX
without pressing anything would be ideal (for me;).

Heiko Rommel
SuSE Linux AG

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
>
> Knowing that the original poster has been using Pine a little longer than
> I have (at least 6 years for me), I would like to recall to memory the
> following feature:
>
> Say you have a series of "Incoming Folders" setup. In the index screen of
> (let's say) the INBOX, if you press TAB, Pine will go to the next folder
> in the list. If there's new email in that folder it will ask you if you
> want to read X number of new messages, otherwise it skips that inactive
> folder.
>
> Does this current feature suit your needs?
>

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. It doesn't really suit my needs unfortunately. I
would much rather be able to simply see how many messages are there,
especially if I have 20 new messages in my inbox but am waiting for an
important message in folder "important", it would be much easier and more
reliable if I could simply see there is a new message there.

Maybe I would be better off with a mail checking program that could check
folders (if one exists)?

Thanks,

Bryan

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*** Bryan Koschmann - GKT ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:

:) However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder
:) list, and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would
:) really help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check
:) some as they don't get messages everyday.
:)
:) If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
:) please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
:) didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).

As far as I know, there is no patch to do what you want, but I wrote a
patch that will tell you *which* incoming folders have new mail. You can
configure which incoming folders you want to have checked at any time.
I've never extended my patch to do this because it would slow down
checking for new mail considerably. As far as I could get from this thread
you care more about knowing which folder has new messages, rather than how
many new messages there are in that folder. If that's right, I suggest
that you try my patch which you can get from my web site.

Finally, I want to call the attention to a new feature of Pine,

[X] tab-checks-recent

which has the effect that when you are in the incoming-folder
collections, that if you press TAB in the folder screen then Pine will
tell you how many new messages there are in that folder.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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As it was written on Jul 15, thus Bryan Koschmann spake unto the masses:

Bryan: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
Bryan: From: Bryan Koschmann - GKT <[email protected]>
Bryan: To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Bryan: Subject: Re: looking for feature/patch
Bryan:
Bryan: On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
Bryan: >
Bryan: > Knowing that the original poster has been using Pine a little longer than
Bryan: > I have (at least 6 years for me), I would like to recall to memory the
Bryan: > following feature:
Bryan: >
Bryan: > Say you have a series of "Incoming Folders" setup. In the index screen of
Bryan: > (let's say) the INBOX, if you press TAB, Pine will go to the next folder
Bryan: > in the list. If there's new email in that folder it will ask you if you
Bryan: > want to read X number of new messages, otherwise it skips that inactive
Bryan: > folder.
Bryan: >
Bryan: > Does this current feature suit your needs?
Bryan: >
Bryan:
Bryan:
Bryan: Hi,
Bryan:
Bryan: Thanks for the reply. It doesn't really suit my needs unfortunately. I
Bryan: would much rather be able to simply see how many messages are there,
Bryan: especially if I have 20 new messages in my inbox but am waiting for an
Bryan: important message in folder "important", it would be much easier and more
Bryan: reliable if I could simply see there is a new message there.
Bryan:
Bryan: Maybe I would be better off with a mail checking program that could check
Bryan: folders (if one exists)?
Bryan:
Bryan: Thanks,
Bryan:
Bryan: Bryan

Maybe a simple shell script that merely checks the size of the file could
do for now?

Something like (not checked for accuracy):

-------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
CurrentSize=`ls -l FILE | awk '{print $5}'`

while [ 1 ]
do
if [ `ls -l FILE | awk '{print $5}'` -gt $CurrentSize ]
then
....
fi
done
-------------------------------------------------------

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> Maybe a simple shell script that merely checks the size of the file
> could do for now?

biff can check arbitrary mbox files.

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Hello,

A bug which sends Pine into an infinite loop is present in the "X
eXtraHdr" command available in the "Roles/Filters/Scores/Other rules"
screens. The bug can be reproduced by adding an extra header when the
"BdyText pattern" line is the first line in the screen.

A patch to fix this bug can be downloaded from my web page.

Aside question: Why is there a "O Other Cmds" option in the menu for the
"Nickname" in this screen?. I found a bug related to that, but I can't
reproduce it now :(.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
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Hello all:

After being partially chastized in another mailing list, I wanted to
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[ Part 1.2, Application/PGP-SIGNATURE 270bytes. ]
[ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ]

My .mailcap has

application/pgp-signature; /usr/bin/less %s ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"

which works well when I use "V". But how can I get Pine (4.55) to
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A bug which sends Pine into an infinite loop is present in the "X
> eXtraHdr" command available in the "Roles/Filters/Scores/Other rules"
> screens. The bug can be reproduced by adding an extra header when the
> "BdyText pattern" line is the first line in the screen.
>
> A patch to fix this bug can be downloaded from my web page.

Thanks, Eduardo, your patch looks right to us, too.

> Aside question: Why is there a "O Other Cmds" option in the menu for the
> "Nickname" in this screen?. I found a bug related to that, but I can't
> reproduce it now :(.

It shouldn't be there but I can't see any bug that it would cause.
Pressing O should cause it to set km->which to (1 % 1), which is zero.
But, as you know, the fix is

*** other.c.old Fri Jul 18 10:32:27 2003
--- other.c.new Fri Jul 18 10:32:51 2003
***************
*** 764,770 ****

static struct key config_role_keys[] =
{HELP_MENU,
! OTHER_MENU,
EXIT_SETUP_MENU,
{"C", "[Change Val]", {MC_EDIT,3,{'c',ctrl('M'),ctrl('J')}}, KS_NONE},
PREV_MENU,
--- 764,770 ----

static struct key config_role_keys[] =
{HELP_MENU,
! NULL_MENU,
EXIT_SETUP_MENU,
{"C", "[Change Val]", {MC_EDIT,3,{'c',ctrl('M'),ctrl('J')}}, KS_NONE},
PREV_MENU,

Thanks!
Steve

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*** Steve Hubert ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
:)
:) > Aside question: Why is there a "O Other Cmds" option in the menu
:) > for the "Nickname" in this screen?. I found a bug related to that,
:) > but I can't reproduce it now :(.
:)
:) It shouldn't be there but I can't see any bug that it would cause.
:) Pressing O should cause it to set km->which to (1 % 1), which is zero.
:) But, as you know, the fix is

Thank you Steve. I appreciate the patch. After several trials, I figured
out that the "bug" was not in Pine4.56, but in 4.44 (one can add an extra
header in the Nickname line). I did not remember that I had run an old
version of Pine before I wrote that line. Sorry for the false alarm.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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James --

Aurora University is using Pine 4.55 on two 5.1 Compaq alpha systems.
I build the 4.55 version using 'build os4'.

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Did you ever find the coreect options? Ever since I went up to 5.1a,
ine has not been working, even a copy I compiled from a fresh
download.

thanks,
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hi all,

is there any mail archiving facility (similar to outlook) in pine

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As it was written on Jul 26, thus Hrishikesh Deshpande spake unto Pine...:

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hgd: hi all,
hgd:
hgd: is there any mail archiving facility (similar to outlook) in pine
hgd:
hgd: Hrishikesh

You mean like the "prune" feature of Pine that renames files?
ie: INBOX becomes INBOX-Jul-2003

??

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Does Pine use the XOVER or XHDR command when connecting to NNTP servers?
Can I get Pine to do even more verbose debugging?

I've re-arragned the email below for top-to-bottom reading:

---------- Forwarded message ----------

> Hello TeraNews Admins:
>
> Im having trouble using (UNIX) Pine 4.55 to connect to
> free.teranews.com:119
>
> It used to work before (months ago), but now I cannot log in. 400
> error. I know Im entering the correct username and password.
>
>
>
> Here's the output from Pine's debug file:
>
>
> ---- FOLDER LISTER ----
> IMAP 09:57:45 7/24 mm_log babble: Trying IP address [66.150.105.111]
> IMAP 09:57:56 7/24 mm_log babble: Trying IP address [66.150.105.111]
> === folders_for_sub called ====
>
>
> ---- FOLDER LISTER ----
> About to open folder "comp.mail.sendmail" inbox: "INBOX"
> Close - saved inbox state: max 1833
> IMAP 09:58:04 7/24 mm_log babble: Reusing connection to free.teranews.com
> IMAP 09:58:04 7/24 mm_log error: 200 Are you happy now?
> IMAP 09:58:07 7/24 mm_log error: Login aborted
>
>
>
>
>
> Dont know why the debug file mentions IMAP. I specifically configured
> it for NNTP.
>
>
> I opened up a telnet session too, just to make sure I could get to port
> 119. It worked. I dont know anything about the NNTP protocol to send
> some test commands to the server.
>
>
> 4:36:18pm Thu: Jul-24-2003 % telnet free.teranews.com 119
> Trying 66.150.105.111...
> Connected to free.teranews.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 200 Welcome 155.247.27.102 cnt 1
>
>
>
> Look forward to your response.
>
> Thanks.
> Birl

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:48:59 -0500 (EST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Problems connecting to free.teranews.com via Pine 4.55

If it connected in the telnet session then you should be able to connect.
If the news client uses the xhdr command then you need to disable it..

Thanks,
Tera News Support.

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There are also the config options "read-message-folder" and
"incoming-archive-folders" that you may want to take a look at.

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> Does Pine use the XOVER or XHDR command when connecting to NNTP servers?
> Can I get Pine to do even more verbose debugging?

Mark knows all the nitty-gritty about pine's NNTP stuff and he is not at
work for a while. Pine certainly does use the XOVER command. I don't know
about XHDR.

Start pine with more debugging with command line flags. You'll get a whole
lot with

pine -dimap=4,verbose=9

You may want to leave the imap=4 but scale the verbosity back some. The
lines that look like

IMAP DEBUG ...

should give you all the NNTP commands used (despite the misleading "IMAP")
when you connect to the news server. Alternatively, you may be able to get
this information using the Journal command off the Main menu followed by
"DebugView" if it is included in the pine you are running.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:

> However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
> and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
> help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
> don't get messages everyday.

In case it makes a difference, I also am waiting anxiously for this
feature to eventually make its appearance (please). I have a smallish
list of folders that I check regularly, and a count of unread messages (or
even just a * on folders with unread messages) in the folder view would
make an enormous difference to me.

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As it was written on Jul 28, thus Steve Hubert spake unto Pine Discussion Forum:

Steve: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:42:19 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Steve: From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Steve:
Steve: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
Steve:
Steve: > Does Pine use the XOVER or XHDR command when connecting to NNTP servers?
Steve: > Can I get Pine to do even more verbose debugging?
Steve:
Steve: Mark knows all the nitty-gritty about pine's NNTP stuff and he is not at
Steve: work for a while. Pine certainly does use the XOVER command. I don't know
Steve: about XHDR.
Steve:
Steve: Start pine with more debugging with command line flags. You'll get a whole
Steve: lot with
Steve:
Steve: pine -dimap=4,verbose=9
Steve:
Steve: You may want to leave the imap=4 but scale the verbosity back some. The
Steve: lines that look like
Steve:
Steve: IMAP DEBUG ...
Steve:
Steve: should give you all the NNTP commands used (despite the misleading "IMAP")
Steve: when you connect to the news server. Alternatively, you may be able to get
Steve: this information using the Journal command off the Main menu followed by
Steve: "DebugView" if it is included in the pine you are running.
Steve:
Steve: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Steve: Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

Thanks for the information Steve. Here's additional information for Mark:

I used "pine -dimap=5,verbose=9" and tail'ed about the last 200 lines of
the debug file:

(Sidenote: One thing I noticed when I tried to set -dimap=9, it was
dropped to 5.
When I tried to set verbose=20, it stayed at 20 but no
additional information was provided.)

---- FOLDER LISTER ----
busy_alarm(1, Formatting scroll text, 106a6c, 0)
build_folder_list: {free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.%s NULL
busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0)
same_stream: {free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.%s == /var/mail/sbirl
same_stream: no dice
pine_mail_open: opening "{free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.x" (stream was NULL) flag=0x50 OP_HALFOPEN OP_SILENT
same_stream: {free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.x == NULL
same_stream: no dice
IMAP 09:45:45 7/29 mm_log babble: Trying IP address [66.150.105.111]
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:46 7/29: 200 Welcome 155.247.27.102 cnt 1
IMAP 09:45:46 7/29 mm_notify babble: -no folder- (nostream) : Welcome 155.247.27.102 cnt 1
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:46 7/29: LIST EXTENSIONS
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:46 7/29: 215 list active
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:46 7/29: MODE READER
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:46 7/29: .
build_folder_list: mail_open(free.teranews.com/nntp) OK.
LSUB "{free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.comp.mail.sendmail": delim: '.',
cancel_busy_alarm(-1)
cancel_busy_alarm(-1)
@@@@ current:1838
set_titlebar - style: 1 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 4 total_pl: 4
0 ? Help 0
1 O OTHER CMDS 0
2 < ClctnList 22
3 > [View Fldr 22
4 P PrevFldr 44
5 N NextFldr 44
6 - PrevPage 68
7 Spc NextPage 66
8 A Add 88
9 D Delete 88
10 R Rename 110
11 W WhereIs 110
row: -2, real_row: 38, column: 0
new mail called (0 0 1)
- adrbk_maintenance -
check_point(GoodTime)
******** new mail returning -1 ********
q_status_message(ALL of folder list)
output_message(ALL of folder list)
STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0
cancel_busy_alarm(-1)
Read char returning: 13 RETURN
Read command returning: 13 RETURN
New_mail_count zeroed
PROCESS_CMD return: 1
About to open folder "comp.mail.sendmail" inbox: "INBOX"
Close - saved inbox state: max 1838
busy_alarm(1, Opening "comp.mail.sendmail", 0, 1)
q_status_message(Opening "comp.mail.sendmail" )
STATUS: diff:-1, displayed: 1059486346, now: 1059486347
d_q_status_message(ALL of folder list)
output_message(Opening "comp.mail.sendmail" )
STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0
pine_mail_open: opening "{free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.comp.mail.sendmail" flag=0x0
IMAP 09:45:47 7/29 mm_log babble: Reusing connection to free.teranews.com
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:47 7/29: GROUP comp.mail.sendmail
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:47 7/29: 200 Are you happy now?
IMAP 09:45:47 7/29 mm_log error: 200 Are you happy now?
q_status_message(200 Are you happy now?)
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:47 7/29: QUIT
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:47 7/29: 480 Username/password required
mm_login trial=0 user= service=nntp
d_q_status_message(Opening "comp.mail.sendmail" )
output_message(200 Are you happy now?)
alarm_signal()
d_q_status_message(200 Are you happy now?)
mm_login: host=free.teranews.com
imap_get_passwd: checking user=sbirl alt=0 host=free.teranews.com
imap_get_passwd: no match
=== optionally_enter called ===
string:"" y:0 x:-3 length: 100 append: 0
passwd:1 prompt:"HOST: free.teranews.com (INSECURE) USER: sbirl ENTER PASSWORD: " label:""
suspend_busy_alarm
0 ^G Help 0
1 ^C Cancel 0
2 (null) xxx 25
3 Ret Accept 22
4 (null) (null) 44
5 (null) (null) 44
6 (null) (null) 66
7 (null) (null) 66
8 (null) (null) 88
9 (null) (null) 88
10 (null) (null) 110
11 (null) (null) 110
row: -2, real_row: 38, column: 0
[snip] <--- note my modification, password deleted
Read char returning: 13 RETURN
resume_busy_alarm
imap_set_passwd
imap_set_passwd: user=sbirl altflag=0
imap_set_passwd: host=free.teranews.com
imap_set_passwd: passwd="" <--- note my modification, password deleted
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:52 7/29: AUTHINFO USER sbirl
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:52 7/29: 205 Bye
IMAP 09:45:52 7/29 mm_log warning: 205 Bye
q_status_message(205 Bye)
mm_login trial=1 user=sbirl service=nntp
output_message(205 Bye)
alarm_signal()
d_q_status_message(205 Bye)
mm_login: host=free.teranews.com
=== optionally_enter called ===
string:"" y:0 x:-3 length: 100 append: 0
passwd:1 prompt:"HOST: free.teranews.com (INSECURE) USER: sbirl ENTER PASSWORD: " label:""
suspend_busy_alarm
0 ^G Help 0
1 ^C Cancel 0
2 (null) xxx 25
3 Ret Accept 22
4 (null) (null) 44
5 (null) (null) 44
6 (null) (null) 66
7 (null) (null) 66
8 (null) (null) 88
9 (null) (null) 88
10 (null) (null) 110
11 (null) (null) 110
row: -2, real_row: 38, column: 0
[snip] <--- note my modification, password deleted
Read char returning: 13 RETURN
resume_busy_alarm
imap_set_passwd
IMAP DEBUG 09:45:56 7/29: AUTHINFO USER sbirl
IMAP 09:45:56 7/29 mm_log warning: 400 NNTP connection broken (command)
q_status_message(400 NNTP connection broken (command))
Opened folder 0 "nil" (context: "{free.teranews.com/nntp}#news.%s")
cancel_busy_alarm(-1)
Old folder: "INBOX"
Reactivate inbox 1838 1838 59f3e0
conf_scroll_screen()
new mail called (0 2 3)
set_titlebar - style: 1 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0
output_message(400 NNTP connection broken (command))
STATUS cmd:120, max:5, min3
0 ? Help 0
1 O OTHER CMDS 0
2 < Main Menu 22
3 > [View Cltn 22
4 P PrevCltn 44
5 N NextCltn 44
6 - PrevPage 68
7 Spc NextPage 66
8 (null) (null) 88
9 (null) (null) 88
10 (null) (null) 111
11 W WhereIs 110
row: -2, real_row: 38, column: 0
cancel_busy_alarm(-1)
Read char returning: 81 Q
Read command returning: 81 Q
New_mail_count zeroed

The password is valid and at the time entered in correctly. As I told the
TeraNews administrators, my telnet session was successful: (password
masked)

# telnet free.teranews.com nntp
Trying 66.150.105.111...
Connected to free.teranews.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Welcome 155.247.27.102 cnt 1
AUTHINFO USER sbirl
381 More authentication information required
AUTHINFO PASS **************
281 Authentication accepted: cnt: 1
HELP
100 Legal commands
authinfo user Name|pass Password
article [MessageID|Number]
body [MessageID|Number]
check MessageID
date
group newsgroup
head [MessageID|Number]
help
ihave
last
list [active|active.times|newsgroups|subscriptions]
listgroup newsgroup
mode stream
mode reader
newgroups yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] [<distributions>]
newnews newsgroups yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] [<distributions>]
next
post
slave
stat [MessageID|Number]
takethis MessageID
xgtitle [group_pattern]
xhdr header [range|MessageID]
xover [range]
xpat header range|MessageID pat [morepat...]