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Is there any way within pine to view the raw text of a message? I've
noticed that H will display the underlying HTML, but doesn't do anything
useful for other types of message.
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On Apr 1, 2003, 12:56 (-0000) Michael Abbott <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is there any way within pine to view the raw text of a message? I've
> noticed that H will display the underlying HTML, but doesn't do anything
> useful for other types of message.

To see all codes and everything, hit H and E to export the message as it
arrived to a file.

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*** Michael Abbott ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

MA> Is there any way within pine to view the raw text of a message? I've
MA> noticed that H will display the underlying HTML, but doesn't do
MA> anything useful for other types of message.

Pine4.5X (X = 0,..,3) has two options:

[X] enable-full-header-cmd
[X] enable-full-header-and-text

The first one allows you to use "H" to see all headers of the message, the
second allows you to see the message as it arrived to you. No filtering of
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On Apr 1, 2003, 08:08 (-0800) Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]> wrote:

> *** Michael Abbott ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> MA> Is there any way within pine to view the raw text of a message? I've
> MA> noticed that H will display the underlying HTML, but doesn't do
> MA> anything useful for other types of message.
>
> Pine4.5X (X = 0,..,3) has two options:
>
> [X] enable-full-header-cmd
> [X] enable-full-header-and-text
>
> The first one allows you to use "H" to see all headers of the message, the
> second allows you to see the message as it arrived to you. No filtering of
> the message is done.

Ah! I had missed that change!

Mats

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> > [X] enable-full-header-and-text
> Ah! I had missed that change!

Me too (hence the question!)

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How does one select a group of messages by searching for a string,
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*** Douglas Kline ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:

DK> How does one select a group of messages by searching for a string,
DK> probably using the "w" command or is that not possible?

Hello Douglas,

Just search as you normally would. Press "w". Now enter the string you
are searching for and instead of pressing RETURN press ^X. Pine will
select those messages that match your search.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:47:09 -0800 (PST)
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>Subject: Re: Selecting by String-Matching
>
>*** Douglas Kline ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:
>
>DK> How does one select a group of messages by searching for a string,
>DK> probably using the "w" command or is that not possible?
>
>Hello Douglas,
>
> Just search as you normally would. Press "w". Now enter the string you
>are searching for and instead of pressing RETURN press ^X. Pine will
>select those messages that match your search.

Yeah, I was about to say this too..

Note (I am not trying to be snotty) that this is actually mentioned in the
help for the 'w' command:

Word to search for [] :
^G Help ^X Select Matches ^Y First Msg
^C Cancel Ret Accept ^V Last Msg

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I was about to ask for documentation on this command because I couldn't
find it before sending in my query or after, even knowing the command I
wanted to use. Help for "w" doesn't display what you have when I do it.
How did you bring up that information?

Douglas Kline

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>
> >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:47:09 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
> >To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: Selecting by String-Matching
> >
> >*** Douglas Kline ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:
> >
> >DK> How does one select a group of messages by searching for a string,
> >DK> probably using the "w" command or is that not possible?
> >
> >Hello Douglas,
> >
> > Just search as you normally would. Press "w". Now enter the string you
> >are searching for and instead of pressing RETURN press ^X. Pine will
> >select those messages that match your search.
>
> Yeah, I was about to say this too..
>
> Note (I am not trying to be snotty) that this is actually mentioned in the
> help for the 'w' command:
>
> Word to search for [] :
> ^G Help ^X Select Matches ^Y First Msg
> ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^V Last Msg
>
>
>

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Douglas Kline wrote:

>Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:05:51 -0500 (EST)
>From: Douglas Kline <[email protected]>
>To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Selecting by String-Matching
>
>
>I was about to ask for documentation on this command because I couldn't
>find it before sending in my query or after, even knowing the command I
>wanted to use. Help for "w" doesn't display what you have when I do it.
>How did you bring up that information?

control-G at the prompt you get after typing 'w'.

Yes, as much of a pine fan as I am, there really are more "funky control
characters" than a lot of other UNIX programs. Though I guess that's because
a lot of the other funky control chars are already being used for other things.

>On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>>
>> >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:47:09 -0800 (PST)
>> >From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
>> >To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>> >Subject: Re: Selecting by String-Matching
>> >
>> >*** Douglas Kline ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:
>> >
>> >DK> How does one select a group of messages by searching for a string,
>> >DK> probably using the "w" command or is that not possible?
>> >
>> >Hello Douglas,
>> >
>> > Just search as you normally would. Press "w". Now enter the string you
>> >are searching for and instead of pressing RETURN press ^X. Pine will
>> >select those messages that match your search.
>>
>> Yeah, I was about to say this too..
>>
>> Note (I am not trying to be snotty) that this is actually mentioned in the
>> help for the 'w' command:
>>
>> Word to search for [] :
>> ^G Help ^X Select Matches ^Y First Msg
>> ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^V Last Msg
>>
>>
>>
>
>

top-posting: It's just a bad idea.

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OK. That showed the ^X. The help screen for "w" you get from the help
screen for commands in general didn't mention it. Is there a clearly
organized reference manual for all these commands?
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ has examples but not a
comprehensive list. Thanks for your help.

Douglas Kline

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Douglas Kline wrote:
>
> >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:05:51 -0500 (EST)
> >From: Douglas Kline <[email protected]>
> >To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
> >Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: Selecting by String-Matching
> >
> >
> >I was about to ask for documentation on this command because I couldn't
> >find it before sending in my query or after, even knowing the command I
> >wanted to use. Help for "w" doesn't display what you have when I do it.
> >How did you bring up that information?
>
> control-G at the prompt you get after typing 'w'.
>
> Yes, as much of a pine fan as I am, there really are more "funky control
> characters" than a lot of other UNIX programs. Though I guess that's because
> a lot of the other funky control chars are already being used for other things.

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Maybe everybody already knows this. Instead of using the WhereIs command
to select messages, the "usual" way to select messages is with the
"; Select" command. In order to use the Select command you must turn on
the feature "enable-aggregate-command-set". Then, when you type
; (semicolon) you will be given several methods to choose from for
selecting a set of messages. Since W just matches what is displayed on the
screen it will miss parts of the Subjects or addresses that are truncated
or aren't visible on the Screen. The Select command will look at the
entire message, and is usually faster than W as well. WhereIs existed
before the Select command existed, otherwise it probably wouldn't be
there now.

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Steve Hubert wrote:
>Maybe everybody already knows this. Instead of using the WhereIs command
>to select messages, the "usual" way to select messages is with the
>"; Select" command. In order to use the Select command you must turn on
>the feature "enable-aggregate-command-set". Then, when you type
>; (semicolon) you will be given several methods to choose from for
>selecting a set of messages. Since W just matches what is displayed on the
>screen it will miss parts of the Subjects or addresses that are truncated
>or aren't visible on the Screen. The Select command will look at the
>entire message, and is usually faster than W as well. WhereIs existed
>before the Select command existed, otherwise it probably wouldn't be
>there now.

YABUT..

Especially if I'm just searching for a person or a word in the subject (that I
think is still visible), using 'w' is fewer keystrokes and "faster"
to me.. (Plus, if everything's already been searched once, it's REALLY fast..
does ; do that same caching?)

Yes, I know I too complained that it only searched what was visible on
the screen.. I still think that's kind of annoying.

So if w^X ended up just transforming into a bunch of other keystrokes, I
probably wouldn't care.. but for simple searches, it's more convenient.

I also wish someone would fix the bug where w^X doesn't actually zoom..
Disclaimer, I'm using 4.51, if that was actually fixed in 4.52 or 4.53, sorry.

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> YABUT..
>
> Especially if I'm just searching for a person or a word in the subject (that I
> think is still visible), using 'w' is fewer keystrokes and "faster"
> to me.. (Plus, if everything's already been searched once, it's REALLY fast..
> does ; do that same caching?)

Yeah, me too. I'm not saying 'w' is useless, I was just thinking that
there might be people that don't know about it. (I guess I did sort of say
that it was useless but I didn't mean it :-)
Caching works for ;, too.

> Yes, I know I too complained that it only searched what was visible on
> the screen.. I still think that's kind of annoying.
>
> So if w^X ended up just transforming into a bunch of other keystrokes, I
> probably wouldn't care.. but for simple searches, it's more convenient.
>
>
> I also wish someone would fix the bug where w^X doesn't actually zoom..
> Disclaimer, I'm using 4.51, if that was actually fixed in 4.52 or 4.53, sorry.

I think Eduardo just recently mentioned that one to us. We either didn't
know about it or had forgotten. We'll try to get it fixed. Thanks.

Steve

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Hi,

I looked up pine config and help for
STATUS/FULLSTATUS/IMAPSTATUS and also searched the web but
couldnt figure this out.

If a mail header has X-Priority=1 or X-Priority=High, how
can I quickly see that information in the message index like
say the STATUS field ?

Like for example Lookout shows a '!' in the field if the
column is displayed.

How can this be achieved in Pine ?
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Atul Nene wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I looked up pine config and help for
> STATUS/FULLSTATUS/IMAPSTATUS and also searched the web but
> couldnt figure this out.
>
> If a mail header has X-Priority=1 or X-Priority=High, how
> can I quickly see that information in the message index like
> say the STATUS field ?
>
> Like for example Lookout shows a '!' in the field if the
> column is displayed.
>
> How can this be achieved in Pine ?

You could have an Index Color rule that searched for that header and
colored the index line red.

You could have a Filter rule that searched for that header and set the
Important flag for that message so the '*' would show up in the index
line.

Steve

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On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Steve Hubert wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Atul Nene wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I looked up pine config and help for
> > STATUS/FULLSTATUS/IMAPSTATUS and also searched the web but
> > couldnt figure this out.
> >
> > If a mail header has X-Priority=1 or X-Priority=High, how
> > can I quickly see that information in the message index like
> > say the STATUS field ?
> >
> > Like for example Lookout shows a '!' in the field if the
> > column is displayed.
> >
> > How can this be achieved in Pine ?
>
> You could have an Index Color rule that searched for that header and
> colored the index line red.
>
> You could have a Filter rule that searched for that header and set the
> Important flag for that message so the '*' would show up in the index
> line.

Thanks ! I'll go in for the latter :)

>
> Steve
>
>
>

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Hi!

I've upgrade my OS, from RedHat 7.1 to RedHat 8.0.
I was running Pine 4.33, and now i'm trying to install Pine 4.44
All my users had their "/var/spool/mail/login" file in the RH 7.1
installation, so i just copied those files to my new /var/spool/mail dir.
I copied these files from the original HDD, because i install RH 8.0 in
another one.
I changed the permissions, owner and group for those files, so every user
can see them. Every thing is just fine, but sometimes i get duplicate
entries, in the Index Window. Here's an example:

----------------------------------------
836 Mar 7 (1527) buzon de anuncios de la Carta de la S+ A 837 Mar 7 Carlos Barrera Rod (2317) Re: Saludos!
838 Mar 8 Lino Feliciano Res (2439) propuesta de sesion
839 Mar 7 Carlos Villegas (3765) propuesta de sesion
840 Mar 8 Martha Takane (303 (2607) Memorias del Congreso
841 Mar 10 Raul Montes de Oca (2683) Cambio de titulo.. (fwd)
842 Mar 10 Lourdes Palacios F (2318) Cambio de titulo.. (fwd)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
my user only have one message with this subject
843 Mar 10 Sociedad Matematic (1775) Cambio de titulo.. (fwd)
844 Mar 10 Orlando Avila (342K) Re: Saludos! (fwd)
845 Mar 10 Carlos Barrera Rod (2531) Re: Saludos! (fwd)
846 Mar 10 (2275) Memorias del Congreso (fwd)
847 Mar 10 (1177) Memorias del Congreso (fwd)
848 Mar 10 Martha Takane (303 (3033) Memorias del Congreso (fwd)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The same thing.
849 Mar 10 Sindy Sanchez Gamb (8.2M) carta informativa
850 Mar 10 Ibarra Mercado Vic (2023) RE: Returned mail: see transcript for+ A 851 Mar 10 [email protected] (2106) Re: Cambio de titulo.. (fwd)
852 Mar 10 Sociedad Matematic (1935) Memorias del Congreso (fwd)
853 Mar 10 Carlos Signoret (4954) Re: Ejemplares promocion Boletin
854 Mar 10 J Carlos Gomez Lar (1536) Re: Ejemplares promocion Boletin
----------------------------------------

But when i get in the message (Press Enter Key over the message), has it's
own-correct subject. Sometimes it shows incorrect "From:" or "To:" headers.
But i'm almost sure one user can't see mails that don't belong her/him.
It's just that the mail shows incorrect From: and To: headers.

I think the problem is in how the newer version of Pine try to read at
the mail files. They should probably include a new configuration
tag or something like that they don't.

RH 8.0 have an upgrade i've already download from Red Hat Network, it's:
pine-4.44-14.80.0.i386.rpm

But i still have the problem.

Hope somebody can help me.

Thanks
Gerardo Torres

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We believe that Redhat 8 defaults to setting the environment variable LANG
to en_GB.UTF-8. Pine up through 4.53 does a setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") call
when it starts up. On Redhat 8 this modifies the behavior of functions
in the printf family, causing them to expect UTF-8 input and produce UTF-8
output. Pine does not know how to handle UTF-8. If you look at the index
lines for mail which contains characters which are illegal UTF-8
characters (random 8bit characters will usually be illegal UTF-8) then
printf will return a zero-length string in places where Pine is expecting
a nonzero-length string, causing the index anomolies you are seeing.

The next version of Pine will no longer do the setlocale call. The benefit
of doing it was dubious at best anyway. So the printf behavior won't be
modified. It still won't understand UTF-8 so if you are using a UTF-8
terminal emulator, it still probably won't work correctly. However, if you
are using a non-UTF-8 emulator the LANG environment variable will no
longer cause this problem.

For current Pine, you could recompile and eliminate the setlocale call. It
is in .../pico/osdep/unix. Comment out the line

(void)setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "");

and rebuild Pine. As a user, you can workaround the problem by setting
your LANG environment variable to something like

en_US.iso885915

instead of

en_GB.UTF-8

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Steve Hubert wrote:

> We believe that Redhat 8 defaults to setting the environment variable LANG
> to en_GB.UTF-8. Pine up through 4.53 does a setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") call
> when it starts up. On Redhat 8 this modifies the behavior of functions
> in the printf family, causing them to expect UTF-8 input and produce UTF-8
> output. Pine does not know how to handle UTF-8. If you look at the index
> lines for mail which contains characters which are illegal UTF-8
> characters (random 8bit characters will usually be illegal UTF-8) then
> printf will return a zero-length string in places where Pine is expecting
> a nonzero-length string, causing the index anomolies you are seeing.
>
> The next version of Pine will no longer do the setlocale call. The benefit
> of doing it was dubious at best anyway. So the printf behavior won't be
> modified. It still won't understand UTF-8 so if you are using a UTF-8
> terminal emulator, it still probably won't work correctly. However, if you
> are using a non-UTF-8 emulator the LANG environment variable will no
> longer cause this problem.
>
> For current Pine, you could recompile and eliminate the setlocale call. It
> is in .../pico/osdep/unix. Comment out the line
>
> (void)setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "");
>
> and rebuild Pine. As a user, you can workaround the problem by setting
> your LANG environment variable to something like
>
> en_US.iso885915
>
> instead of
>
> en_GB.UTF-8
>
> Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
> Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle
>

Thank you very much for your fast answer.
I'm going to correct this file and install the new Pine Version (in fact
i'm intalling 4.50 version) by source, because i installed the lastest
version fron RH Network with the rpm file.

I made the change you mentioned for a user account, exporting the LANG
variable, but still have the problem and now i know why...:)...
That's because i'm using latin characters too.
You told me to set the variable to en_US885915, but probably exist a
value in RH for latin characters.
Where should i look for it? and How can i set this variable globally for
my users? or should i make the export in the .bashrc files? and
therefore in the default .bashrc file for the next users i will create?

Thanks again
Gerardo Torres

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I'm afraid you're getting past the point where I feel like I almost know
what I'm talking about. I presume that en_US.iso885915 is related to
ISO-8859-15, which is all about Latin characters. I don't know what the
en_US part of the name implies. On redhat try "man locale" and
"locale -a".

You may also be running into the problem of trying to run pine in a UTF-8
terminal emulator, in which case 8bit character sets like ISO-8859-15
simply won't work. As you can tell, my knowledge of Redhat is limited.
Sorry!

Steve

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Is there anyway to set your 'default username'..

The situation is this..

If a users physical login name is 'foo'.. but they send as 'bar@host'..
and all incoming mail comes to bar@host.. and there is a Role setup 'default'
that matches ALL=bar@host...

It ALWAYS asks 'reply to all recipients' when you are replying to email..
even tho YOUR email address, is the only other recipient besides the sender
you are replying to.

Reply-Use is set to Without confirmation
Compose-Use is set to Without confirmation

Is there any possible way to get it to stop trying to reply-to-all when there
is NO 'all' ?

Thanks.

-erik
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Gerardo Torres Lopez wrote:

> Where should i look for it? and How can i set this variable globally for
> my users? or should i make the export in the .bashrc files? and
> therefore in the default .bashrc file for the next users i will create?

The place to set it globally is in /etc/sysconfig/i18n, which is probably
the thing you want to do.

Jeff

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Dear Erik

Try putting 'bar@host' in the alt-addresses field in .pinerc.

Regards

Suhas

Quoting Erik Parker <[email protected]>:

>
> Is there anyway to set your 'default username'..
>
> The situation is this..
>
> If a users physical login name is 'foo'.. but they send as 'bar@host'..
> and all incoming mail comes to bar@host.. and there is a Role setup
> 'default'
> that matches ALL=bar@host...
>
> It ALWAYS asks 'reply to all recipients' when you are replying to email..
> even tho YOUR email address, is the only other recipient besides the sender
> you are replying to.
>
> Reply-Use is set to Without confirmation
> Compose-Use is set to Without confirmation
>
> Is there any possible way to get it to stop trying to reply-to-all when
> there
> is NO 'all' ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -erik
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Hi,
the configuration of my mailserver has been changed
from direct access /var/mail/user to imap or pop.

I therefore changed the .pinerc inbox-path set to nothing
which works, but is very nasty since pine wants
a password every time i start it.

I searched the internet and found out that fetchmail +
procmail should do what i want.

I configured them and set the inbox path to point to the file
that i get through fetcmail+procmail but pine doesn't
recognize the format. I only see one message and pine
opens the mailbox read-only.

Any hints on that? How can i set this up?
Thanxs in advance, Harald

I add my configuration, maybee theres a problem with
fetchmail + procmail wirting the wrong format. It looks
like a mail format to me, but i'm not an expert.

fetchmailrc
set postmaster "joe"
set no bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 100
poll mailserver with proto POP3
user 'joe' options keep mda "/usr/bin/procmail"

procmailrc
ORGMAIL=/home/joe/mail/joe
DEFAULT=/home/joe/mail/joe

pinerc
inbox-path=/home/joe/mail/joe
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On 11 Apr 2003 Haneu ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> the configuration of my mailserver has been changed
> from direct access /var/mail/user to imap or pop.
>
> I therefore changed the .pinerc inbox-path set to nothing
> which works, but is very nasty since pine wants
> a password every time i start it.

Rather than setting inbox-path to nothing, I suggest that you use
the specification that your provider suggests. Usually it will be
something like this

inbox-path={imap.your.server/ssl/user=UID}INBOX
^^^^
use this qualifier if IMAP over SSL works

Then set up Pine to store your password in an encrypted PASSFILE.
I describe how to set up Pine to use a PASSFILE on my Power Pine
page in this section

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#passfile>

One advantage of using IMAP is that you'll be able to use any
IMAP client on any machine anywhere on the Internet to access
your messages.

> I searched the internet and found out that fetchmail +
> procmail should do what i want.

What exactly is it that you want to do? Do you want to use
fetchmail to snarf messages to your local computer or to some
remote computer that you ssh to? Why don't you want your messages
on the IMAP server -- is it because you can't get Pine to talk to
your IMAP server or because of other reasons? Depending on your
answers, you might be better off waiting for Pine 4.55 (which is
in alpha testing now) and a great new feature it has for snarfing
messages.

-Nancy

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Hi,

I have configured pine 4.53 on Sco Openserver 5.0.4 to use IMAP accounts on a
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If I try to save them into another folder or forward it, then Pine hangs while
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versions of pine (4.10 & 4.33) also, but face the same problem.

What must be going wrong?

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Is it possible to filter using message format, with PINE v4.44 for
Linux?

I am getting an increasing amount of spam, coming in HTML format, where
the body is split into strings that make it difficult to filter.

Using the Alltext field in a filter does not work when seeking HTML
tags, eg, using "href" as a string in the filter Alltext field.

If I could simply filter out all HTML messages, it would solve the
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Bret Busby wrote:

>Is it possible to filter using message format, with PINE v4.44 for
>Linux?
>
>I am getting an increasing amount of spam, coming in HTML format, where
>the body is split into strings that make it difficult to filter.
>
>Using the Alltext field in a filter does not work when seeking HTML
>tags, eg, using "href" as a string in the filter Alltext field.
>
>If I could simply filter out all HTML messages, it would solve the
>problem.

Just use spamassassin. It's simple to set up, and it nails 95%
of my daily spam - roughly 60 per day just at Red Hat alone.

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This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
version 4.55. This release introduces some new functionality and
addresses bugs found in earlier versions.

Perhaps the most notable changes are improved POP3 performance and an
experimental "Mail Drop" setup that can make POP3 access behave more
like some POP3 users expect it to behave. To learn about "Mail Drops",
start Pine, view the Release notes (command "R" from the Main Menu), and
view the "Mail Drop" link.

Specific information about changes can always be found in the built-in
release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), or via any of:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/

http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/

UNIX source code for the latest Pine release is available at:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/
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(MD5: 730e69981d2034d9e031ac665b20f6eb)

Pre-built binaries are available for a small number of UNIX operating
environments for citizens of the U.S. or Canada via:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/

Instructions for building UNIX Pine are in the README file in the
top-level directory of the tar file.

The PC-Pine distribution is also available at the above url, or at:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/setup_pine_4.55.exe
(MD5: 060bf661abe08dc2bc0222357c42bf35)

Alternatively, the zip file (like we've distributed in the past) is also
available at:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm455w42.zip
(MD5: 4d2e982cb6c91cf4c529d2d854cc34b4)

As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Steve Hubert wrote:

> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> version 4.55. This release introduces some new functionality and
> addresses bugs found in earlier versions.

Thanks a lot for this new version!

The User-Agent patch is now available for pine-4.55. See
<http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~nicolas/software.shtml/#pine>.

Note that the sigcolor patch is included in the stock 4.55.

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Steve Hubert wrote:

SH> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
SH> version 4.55. This release introduces some new functionality and
SH> addresses bugs found in earlier versions.

What happened to 4.54?

Henrik

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Steve Hubert wrote:

> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> version 4.55. This release introduces some new functionality and
> addresses bugs found in earlier versions.

Hi!

I get an error when trying to compile on a RedHat 7.1. Seems there is some
requirement of a specific version of LDAP for it to work. When I build
with NOLDAP it works without a hitch.

I get

/usr/lib/libldap.so: undefined reference to `ber_skip_tag'
/usr/lib/libldap.so: undefined reference to `ber_memalloc'
/usr/lib/libldap.so: undefined reference to `ber_memrealloc'
/usr/lib/libldap.so: undefined reference to `ber_get_next'

etc etc before the compilation stops.
My openldap-version is 2.0.17 (RedHat RPM).

Do I need to upgrade?

/j

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>Bugs that have been addressed in this release include:
>
> * Messages may be unexpectedly marked Deleted or expunged if the
> following conditions hold:
> + The folder is accessed using IMAP
> + The feature "Expunge-Only-Manually" is set
> + Some messages in the folder have been Filtered during this
> session
> + The folder contains messages which haven't been displayed in the
> index or viewed in this session
> If these conditions hold, then any messages which were previously
> marked Deleted will be expunged from the folder, and a seemingly
> random set of the messages which haven't been displayed this session
> will be marked Deleted.

Eeek. I'm using 4.51 on my work machine with IMAP and expunge only manually.

I haven't _noticed_ messages accidentally expunging, but this sounds very
scary.

Is there any more info about what triggers this?

I guess I should just update to 4.55.. but this sounds bad.

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On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Jesper Maartenson wrote:

> I get an error when trying to compile on a RedHat 7.1. Seems there is some
> requirement of a specific version of LDAP for it to work. When I build
> with NOLDAP it works without a hitch.
>
> I get
>
> /usr/lib/libldap.so: undefined reference to `ber_skip_tag'
> /usr/lib/libldap.so: undefined reference to `ber_memalloc'

FWIW, I built 4.55 on RH 7.3 with openldap-2.0.27-2.7.3
openldap-devel-2.0.27-2.7.3 and it compiled just fine.

[egreshko@misty pine4.55]$ build NOSSL lrh
make args are CC=cc lrh

Including LDAP functionality

Regards,
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Hi,

I'm using RedHat 8.0 and 9 and the Pine that comes with it (pine-4.44-18
for RedHat 9) can't display 8-bit characters. It skipps showing the rest
of the line in eg SUBJECT or FROM when it sees an 8-bit character like
the three swedish characters. So Pine is now useless :-(

I saw some postings on this on
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70518
and the final comment said by Mike A. Harris was:

"Since the problem has been determined to be due to lack of unicode
support in PINE, there is not much that we at Red Hat can do about
this problem until upstream PINE supports unicode directly."

Is there something I can do to solve this, maybe just a dirty fix or
something? (I suppose it is not fixed in Pine 4.55)

Thanks in advance, I really like to continue to use Pine!

Best,
Jan

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On Apr 18, 2003, 10:37 (+0200) Jan Banan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using RedHat 8.0 and 9 and the Pine that comes with it (pine-4.44-18
> for RedHat 9) can't display 8-bit characters. It skipps showing the rest
> of the line in eg SUBJECT or FROM when it sees an 8-bit character like
> the three swedish characters. So Pine is now useless :-(

I've had no such problems. Maybe it helps to set
character-set = ISO-8859-1

Have you done that?

I use pine 4.53.

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>>I'm using RedHat 8.0 and 9 and the Pine that comes with it (pine-4.44-18
>>for RedHat 9) can't display 8-bit characters. It skipps showing the rest
>>of the line in eg SUBJECT or FROM when it sees an 8-bit character like
>>the three swedish characters. So Pine is now useless :-(
>
> I've had no such problems. Maybe it helps to set
> character-set = ISO-8859-1

I have done that. What version of RedHat are you using?

/Jan

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>>I'm using RedHat 8.0 and 9 and the Pine that comes with it (pine-4.44-18
>>for RedHat 9) can't display 8-bit characters. It skipps showing the rest
>>of the line in eg SUBJECT or FROM when it sees an 8-bit character like
>>the three swedish characters. So Pine is now useless :-(
>
> I've had no such problems. Maybe it helps to set
> character-set = ISO-8859-1
> Have you done that?
> I use pine 4.53.

I've now compiled pine 4.55 and the same character problems exists.. :-(
How does your /etc/sysconfig/i18n look like? Mine looks like this:
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
If I change the LANG-line to LANG="en_US" then the SUBJECT/FROM-lines
with Swedish characters shows up but the swedish chars looks trashed.
They look ok when I type in the "KDE konsole". When I try "xterm" the
Swedish chars are just blank(=dissappered) in pine 4.55.

Any ideas?

/Jan

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On Apr 18, 2003, 12:38 (+0200) Jan Banan <[email protected]> wrote:

> >>I'm using RedHat 8.0 and 9 and the Pine that comes with it (pine-4.44-18
> >>for RedHat 9) can't display 8-bit characters. It skipps showing the rest
> >>of the line in eg SUBJECT or FROM when it sees an 8-bit character like
> >>the three swedish characters. So Pine is now useless :-(
> >
> > I've had no such problems. Maybe it helps to set
> > character-set = ISO-8859-1
> > Have you done that?
> > I use pine 4.53.
>
> I've now compiled pine 4.55 and the same character problems exists.. :-(
> How does your /etc/sysconfig/i18n look like? Mine looks like this:
> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
> SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
> SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"

I don't know what the equivalence under FreeBSD is, but I have set
LANG=sv_SE.ISO_8859-1
in the shell. On the other hand, it does not seem to matter. What is
important, is the setting in pine.

> If I change the LANG-line to LANG="en_US" then the SUBJECT/FROM-lines
> with Swedish characters shows up but the swedish chars looks trashed.
> They look ok when I type in the "KDE konsole". When I try "xterm" the
> Swedish chars are just blank(=dissappered) in pine 4.55.

If LANG is unset, I cannot write a-umlout etc on the command line, but
pine is not effected.

Mats

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On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> Eeek. I'm using 4.51 on my work machine with IMAP and expunge only manually.
>
> I haven't _noticed_ messages accidentally expunging, but this sounds very
> scary.
>
> Is there any more info about what triggers this?

The release note is supposed to be a precise description of what triggers
it. We've only heard of one user who was experiencing this and realized
it. They worked with us extensively to narrow down what the problem was
and to get it fixed.

> I guess I should just update to 4.55.. but this sounds bad.

Yes, if it happens it's definitely bad. You are safe if you update to 4.55
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> > > > I'm using RedHat 8.0 and 9 and the Pine that comes with it
> > > > (pine-4.44-18
> > > > for RedHat 9) can't display 8-bit characters. It skipps showing
> > > > the rest
> > > > of the line in eg SUBJECT or FROM when it sees an 8-bit character
> > > > like the three swedish characters. So Pine is now useless :-(
> > >
> > > I've had no such problems. Maybe it helps to set
> > > character-set = ISO-8859-1
> > > Have you done that?
> > > I use pine 4.53.
> >
> > I've now compiled pine 4.55 and the same character problems exists.. :-(
> > How does your /etc/sysconfig/i18n look like? Mine looks like this:
> > LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
> > SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
> > SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
>
> I don't know what the equivalence under FreeBSD is, but I have set
> LANG=sv_SE.ISO_8859-1
> in the shell. On the other hand, it does not seem to matter. What is
> important, is the setting in pine.

I've also tried "LANG=sv_SE" and "LANG=sv_SE.ISO_8859-1" and before I
upgraded to RedHat 9 (or 8.0) I had LANG="en_US" and it worked. So
obviously there is something in Pine that conflicts with RedHat 9/8.0
since the Swedish characters works perfect when typed directly in the
console (konsole or xterm).

I doubt Pine works with local language chars for anyone in Europe that
uses RedHat 8.0 or 9. Can anyone please confirm that?

Regards,
Jan

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> I doubt Pine works with local language chars for anyone in Europe that
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No problem here with 8.0 via ssh.

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> *** Douglas Kline ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:
>
> DK> How does one select a group of messages by searching for a string,
> DK> probably using the "w" command or is that not possible?
>
> Hello Douglas,
>
> Just search as you normally would. Press "w". Now enter the string you
> are searching for and instead of pressing RETURN press ^X. Pine will
> select those messages that match your search.
>
> --
> Eduardo
> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

This (and subsequent messages) tells me how to find all the messages which
have the specified string *in the Subject*. But what I would find
incredibly useful (so much so that I had assumed it was what the original
questioner was asking) is how to find all those messages containing a
specified string *in the body of the message*. Is there a way of doing
this?

Patrick Wallace
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Earlier today I asked this:

> This (and subsequent messages) tells me how to find all the messages which
> have the specified string *in the Subject*. But what I would find
> incredibly useful (so much so that I had assumed it was what the original
> questioner was asking) is how to find all those messages containing a
> specified string *in the body of the message*. Is there a way of doing
> this?

In fact this requirement has already been addressed (see below). I guess
I wasn't paying enough attention at the time it came through - sorry.

I tried it and it works. Pretty arcane: I would never have got there
from the online help.

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:19:37 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Selecting by String-Matching

Maybe everybody already knows this. Instead of using the WhereIs command
to select messages, the "usual" way to select messages is with the
"; Select" command. In order to use the Select command you must turn on
the feature "enable-aggregate-command-set". Then, when you type
; (semicolon) you will be given several methods to choose from for
selecting a set of messages. Since W just matches what is displayed on the
screen it will miss parts of the Subjects or addresses that are truncated
or aren't visible on the Screen. The Select command will look at the
entire message, and is usually faster than W as well. WhereIs existed
before the Select command existed, otherwise it probably wouldn't be
there now.

Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
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The company LDAP (exchange) directory is organized

"last, first" <[email protected]>

When I look up the addresses one at a time and
carefully move the cursor to the beginning of a
line in the To: or Cc: header, Pine often breaks
the line of the header at the commas in the
comment portion of an address, instead of at the
commas that separate the addresses.

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address, Pine occasionally sticks a new address
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header. Just now, I was putting seven members of
management into the Cc: header of a Technology
Exchange announcement and didn't inspect the
result before sending it out (mea culpa). The
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and the most important had the address mangled:

"lastleast, lastmost"@domain.com,
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<[email protected]>

This is Pine 4.44, running on Solaris, accessing
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*** Patrick Wallace ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

PW> > *** Douglas Kline ([email protected]) wrote in the
PW> > pine-info list...:
PW> >
PW> > DK> How does one select a group of messages by searching for a
PW> > DK> string, probably using the "w" command or is that not possible?
PW> >
PW> > Hello Douglas,
PW> >
PW> > Just search as you normally would. Press "w". Now enter the string
PW> > you are searching for and instead of pressing RETURN press ^X. Pine
PW> > will select those messages that match your search.
PW>
PW> This (and subsequent messages) tells me how to find all the messages
PW> which have the specified string *in the Subject*. But what I would
PW> find incredibly useful (so much so that I had assumed it was what the
PW> original questioner was asking) is how to find all those messages
PW> containing a specified string *in the body of the message*. Is there
PW> a way of doing this?

Yes, press "; t b <string>". This requires that you have the option

[X] enable-aggregate-command-set

enabled. After you press the ";" key read the menu at the bottom so that
you learn all the options that are available when using this command.

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Does anyone out there have a patch for Pine which would display a clock
somewhere aloung the top bar of Pine? Just thought that would be handy.

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:

> Does anyone out there have a patch for Pine which would display a clock
> somewhere aloung the top bar of Pine? Just thought that would be handy.

That would be *really* nice; seconded.

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I've tried all the possible Linux build variations but still end up
with the following error:

Building bundled tools...
cd mtest;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o
./c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
mtest.o: In function `smtptest':
/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest/mtest.c:701: the `gets' function is dangerous and
should not be used.
/usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS): In function `__libc_csu_init':
elf-init.oS(.text+0xb): undefined reference to `__init_array_end'
elf-init.oS(.text+0x10): undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
elf-init.oS(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
/usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS): In function `__libc_csu_fini':
elf-init.oS(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `__fini_array_end'
elf-init.oS(.text+0x3b): undefined reference to `__fini_array_start'
elf-init.oS(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `__fini_array_start'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
make[1]: *** [bundled] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap'
make: *** [slx] Error 2
+---------------------------------------------+
| Problems building c-client |
| |
| Please check the output above for a |
| possible explanation for this failure |
+---------------------------------------------+

Anyone know what I have to do to get this to work? Thanks.....

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If I remove the file /var/spool/mail/$USER and a new mail is sent to my
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Sorry for this lengthy message. It is composed mainly of extracts from
a couple of other messages I found on the web via the Infinite Ink site on
Pine. It concerns getting Pine to download POP messages on its own,
without assistance from an MRA (mail retrieval agent). As a further side
note on my own interest in this subject, let me add the following. I am
trying to assist someone who is developing a very slimmed down version of
Linux (called "Basiclinux") in finding a suitable mail client. Pine seems
an ideal candidate, since it is rich in features and works in console mode
(no big processing demands from a fancy GUI). Basiclinux is based on an
older Slackware release - 7.1. I managed to get Pine from that release
(Pine 4.21) to install without any dependency issues on Basiclinux, a good
sign. It works great as a popmail or IMAP checker. What we'd like to
determine is whether it can, without assistance from an MRA, download all
messages from the server to the local machine - i.e., without the need to
download them manually, one message at a time. I was thinking it could
not be made to do this when I ran across the following 2 posts linked to
from the Infinite Ink site:

#############BEGIN FIRST EXCERPTED MESSAGE#######################

On 2 Mar 2003 Ted Gervais ([email protected]) wrote:
> > > I am using a pop3 process in getting my mail with Pine.
> > > This apparently doesn't actually retrieve the mail (fully) until you kill
> > > it, as it remains on the server. As well, it can't be found on my system
> > > unless I save the message somewhere.
> >
> > For now I suggest that you create a Pine filter that will
> > automatically move the messages. To create a filter, type
> >
> > M Main
> > S Setup
> > R Rules
> > F Filters
> > A Add
>
> Yes this is a start to possibly helping. Remember I just want to bring
> the messages in (email) and have them removed from the server.
>
> I looked at the Rules setup, that you talk about above, but can't see how
> that will bring my mail in and delete it from the server.

The ADD A FILTERING RULE screen is pretty overwhelming but I have
used a Pine filter to move all messages from a POP box to another
mailbox. Below is the screen with the 6 lines that I suggest you
change preceded by a greater than sign (>). Below the screen I
have some comments.

---------- begin ADD A FILTERING RULE screen ----------
>Nickname = Slurp my POP Box

===== CURRENT FOLDER CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE =====

Current Folder Type =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
( ) Any
( ) News
( ) Email
> (*) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
> Folder List = {my.pop.server/user=UID}INBOX

===== FILTERED MESSAGE CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE =====

To pattern = <No Value Set>
From pattern = <No Value Set>
Sender pattern = <No Value Set>
Cc pattern = <No Value Set>
News pattern = <No Value Set>
Subject pattern = <No Value Set>
Recip pattern = <No Value Set>
Partic pattern = <No Value Set>
Add Extra Headers
AllText pattern = <No Value Set>
BdyText pattern = <No Value Set>
Age interval = <No Value Set>
>Score interval = (-INF,INF)

Message is Important? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is New (Unseen)? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is Recent? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is Deleted? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is Answered? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Subject contains raw 8-bit? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

From or ReplyTo is in address book? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes, in any address book
( ) No, not in any address book
( ) Yes, in specific address books
( ) No, not in any of specific address books
Abook List = <No Value Set>

===== ACTIONS BEGIN HERE =====

Filter Action =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
( ) Just Set Message Status
( ) Delete
> (*) Move (Enter folder name(s) in primary collection, or use ^T)
> Folder List = /usr/home/UID/mail/localBox

Set Important Status =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't change it
( ) Set this state
( ) Clear this state

Set New Status =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't change it
( ) Set this state
( ) Clear this state

Set Deleted Status =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't change it
( ) Set this state
( ) Clear this state

Set Answered Status =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't change it
( ) Set this state
( ) Clear this state

===== OPTIONS BEGIN HERE =====

Features =
Set Feature Name
--- ----------------------
[ ] use-date-header-for-age
[ ] move-only-if-not-deleted
[ ] dont-stop-even-if-rule-matches

---------- end ADD A FILTERING RULE screen ----------

Comments:

* I set the score interval to (-INF,INF) to ensure that every
message is matched. It used to be that at least one non-default
condition was needed for a Pine filter to work. It might work
leaving all the conditions in their default state -- let me
know if you experiment with that!

* For the Filter Action, you can move the messages to either an
IMAP mailbox or a local mailbox. The example I give is a local
mailbox, but you could change that to be an IMAP box.

Hope this helps,
Nancy

############END FIRST EXCERPTED MESSAGE#######################

############BEGIN SECOND EXCERPTED MESSAGE###################

On 3 Mar 2003 Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote:
> > > For now I suggest that you create a Pine filter that will
> > > automatically move the messages. To create a filter, type
> [ ... ]

I forgot to mention a key part of this puzzle: After you set up
the filter, add both your POP Box and the Retrieval Box to your
incoming-folders list like this:

incoming-folders={my.pop.server/user=UID}INBOX,
mail/localBox,
etc,

Then you can TAB through your incoming-folders and each time you
go to the POP Box, the "slurp" filter will be triggered. Then
press TAB again and the Retrieval Box (mail/localBox in this
example) will be opened.

Let us know if you get this to work!
Nancy

##########END SECOND EXCERPTED MESSAGE##########################

I tried everything that was written in the two posts in varying
combinationson Pine 4.21, but it simply would not work. There are
some fundamental unclarities. For example, doesn't this scheme presume
that incoming folders are enabled? And where does one stipulate the
incoming-folders argument? Are you supposed to manually edit .pinerc? I
would really like to get this working, but the directions are somehow
fatally flawed. Can someone provide further clarification, confirmation
that it really does/doesn't work, or point me to other helpful resources?

Please do not suggest upgrading to Pine 4.55. We'd like to stick to the
older, dependency-compliant version if at all possible. To use the newest
release would involve alot of extra headaches, like compiling problems
(being a slim distro, Basiclinux does not come by default with a compiler)
and dependency issues (e.g., newer SSL's and possibly other libraries).
If it just won't work to download pop messages without an MRA using Pine 4.21,
please just state so. I've run into many situations using Linux where I've
not been able to have my cake and eat it too - I can take it.

Thank you, James Miller
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JM> What we'd like to determine is whether it can, without assistance from
JM> an MRA, download all messages from the server to the local machine -
JM> i.e., without the need to download them manually, one message at a
JM> time. I was thinking it could not be made to do this when I ran
JM> across the following 2 posts linked to from the Infinite Ink site:

In Pine4.55, which is the last release of Pine, there is a feature called
"Maildrop", which allows you to move e-mail from your INBOX to a local
folder (in general you can move it to another e-mail account if you'd like
to). I believe that would help you in what you want to do.

I have some information about maildrops in my web page at

http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/maildrop/

all feedback is welcome.

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>
> JM> What we'd like to determine is whether it can, without assistance from
> JM> an MRA, download all messages from the server to the local machine -
> JM> i.e., without the need to download them manually, one message at a
> JM> time. I was thinking it could not be made to do this when I ran
> JM> across the following 2 posts linked to from the Infinite Ink site:
>
> In Pine4.55, which is the last release of Pine, there is a feature called
> "Maildrop", which allows you to move e-mail from your INBOX to a local
> folder (in general you can move it to another e-mail account if you'd like
> to). I believe that would help you in what you want to do.
>
> I have some information about maildrops in my web page at
>
> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/maildrop/
>
> all feedback is welcome.
>
Thanks for your response. Apropos of it, here is a relevant excerpt from
my initial message: "Please do not suggest upgrading to Pine 4.55. We'd
like to stick to the older, dependency-compliant version if at all
possible. To use the newest release would involve alot of extra
headaches, like compiling problems (being a slim distro, Basiclinux does
not come by default with a compiler) and dependency issues (e.g., newer
SSL's and possibly other libraries). If it just won't work to download
pop messages without an MRA using Pine 4.21, please just state so. I've
run into many situations using Linux where I've not been able to have my
cake and eat it too - I can take it."

Any other input on downloading messages wihtout an MRA using Pine 4.21?

James Miller

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JM> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
JM> >
JM> > JM> What we'd like to determine is whether it can, without
JM> > JM> assistance from an MRA, download all messages from the server to
JM> > JM> the local machine - i.e., without the need to download them
JM> > JM> manually, one message at a time. I was thinking it could not be
JM> > JM> made to do this when I ran across the following 2 posts linked
JM> > JM> to from the Infinite Ink site:
JM> >
JM> > In Pine4.55, which is the last release of Pine, there is a feature
JM> > called "Maildrop", which allows you to move e-mail from your INBOX
JM> > to a local folder (in general you can move it to another e-mail
JM> > account if you'd like to). I believe that would help you in what you
JM> > want to do.
JM> >
JM> > I have some information about maildrops in my web page at
JM> >
JM> > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/maildrop/
JM> >
JM> > all feedback is welcome.
JM> >
JM> Thanks for your response. Apropos of it, here is a relevant excerpt
JM> from my initial message: "Please do not suggest upgrading to Pine
JM> 4.55. We'd like to stick to the older, dependency-compliant version
JM> if at all possible. To use the newest release would involve alot of
JM> extra headaches, like compiling problems (being a slim distro,
JM> Basiclinux does not come by default with a compiler) and dependency
JM> issues (e.g., newer SSL's and possibly other libraries). If it just
JM> won't work to download pop messages without an MRA using Pine 4.21,
JM> please just state so. I've run into many situations using Linux where
JM> I've not been able to have my cake and eat it too - I can take it."

Sorry, I didn't see it. It would have been nice if you had put this
excerpt at the top of your message.

If you can build 4.21, I see no reason why you can not build 4.55, you can
build 4.55 without ssl support, if that's your problem.

JM> Any other input on downloading messages wihtout an MRA using Pine
JM> 4.21?

no.

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
> JM> Thanks for your response. Apropos of it, here is a relevant excerpt
> JM> from my initial message: "Please do not suggest upgrading to Pine
> JM> 4.55. We'd like to stick to the older, dependency-compliant version
> JM> if at all possible. To use the newest release would involve alot of
> JM> extra headaches, like compiling problems (being a slim distro,
> JM> Basiclinux does not come by default with a compiler) and dependency
> JM> issues (e.g., newer SSL's and possibly other libraries). If it just
> JM> won't work to download pop messages without an MRA using Pine 4.21,
> JM> please just state so. I've run into many situations using Linux where
> JM> I've not been able to have my cake and eat it too - I can take it."
>
> Sorry, I didn't see it. It would have been nice if you had put this
> excerpt at the top of your message.
>
> If you can build 4.21, I see no reason why you can not build 4.55, you can
> build 4.55 without ssl support, if that's your problem.
>
Thanks again for replying. Again, an apropos excerpt from my original
post: "Basiclinux is based on an older Slackware release - 7.1. I managed
to get Pine from that release (Pine 4.21) to install without any
dependency issues on Basiclinux, a good sign." This was a Slackware
package - a tgz file. There was no compiling involved. And, as I
indicated, I doubt SSL is going to be the only dependency problem if I try
upgrading to 4.55 [from my initial post: "To use the newest
release would involve alot of extra headaches, like . . . dependency
issues (e.g., newer SSL's and possibly other libraries")]. If you would
care to help me determine better what dependency problems I might encounter,
you could post an ldd output for Pine 4.55. That could be of some use in
resolving the problems I'm trying to address.

Thanks, James

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JM> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
JM> > JM> Thanks for your response. Apropos of it, here is a relevant
JM> > JM> excerpt from my initial message: "Please do not suggest
JM> > JM> upgrading to Pine 4.55. We'd like to stick to the older,
JM> > JM> dependency-compliant version if at all possible. To use the
JM> > JM> newest release would involve alot of extra headaches, like
JM> > JM> compiling problems (being a slim distro, Basiclinux does not
JM> > JM> come by default with a compiler) and dependency issues (e.g.,
JM> > JM> newer SSL's and possibly other libraries). If it just won't
JM> > JM> work to download pop messages without an MRA using Pine 4.21,
JM> > JM> please just state so. I've run into many situations using Linux
JM> > JM> where I've not been able to have my cake and eat it too - I can
JM> > JM> take it."
JM> >
JM> > Sorry, I didn't see it. It would have been nice if you had put this
JM> > excerpt at the top of your message.
JM> >
JM> > If you can build 4.21, I see no reason why you can not build 4.55,
JM> > you can build 4.55 without ssl support, if that's your problem.
JM> >
JM> Thanks again for replying. Again, an apropos excerpt from my original
JM> post: "Basiclinux is based on an older Slackware release - 7.1. I
JM> managed to get Pine from that release (Pine 4.21) to install without
JM> any dependency issues on Basiclinux, a good sign." This was a
JM> Slackware package - a tgz file. There was no compiling involved.
JM> And, as I indicated, I doubt SSL is going to be the only dependency
JM> problem if I try upgrading to 4.55 [from my initial post: "To use the
JM> newest release would involve alot of extra headaches, like . . .
JM> dependency issues (e.g., newer SSL's and possibly other libraries")].
JM> If you would care to help me determine better what dependency problems
JM> I might encounter, you could post an ldd output for Pine 4.55. That
JM> could be of some use in resolving the problems I'm trying to address.

Pine4.55 and 4.21 need the same libraries to build, extra libraries like
ssl, ldap are optional. Why don't you try it yourself?, I don't why this
is a headache.

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>
> Pine4.55 and 4.21 need the same libraries to build, extra libraries like
> ssl, ldap are optional. Why don't you try it yourself?, I don't why this
> is a headache.
>
Ok. I think we've gone as far as we can with addressing the Pine 4.55
solution to this problem - a discussion I was trying to sort of preempt in
my initial post. Now, what about getting the version that I already
have working (Pine 4.21) to "snarf" messages, as the directions I
initially posted instruct? I could not get Pine 4.21 to "snarf" any
messages using those directions: it would only allow me to read them on
the server and download them one-by-one. Nothing was transferred to
the inbox - the "snarfbox" - I created. Was I perhaps doing something
wrong in setting this up? Were the directions perhaps inadequate or
merely speculative (the comment "Let us know if this works" seemed to
indicate so)? Does anyone else have this working on older releases of
Pine? TIA.

James

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*** James Miller ([email protected]) wrote today:

JM> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
JM> >
JM> > Pine4.55 and 4.21 need the same libraries to build, extra libraries
JM> > like ssl, ldap are optional. Why don't you try it yourself?, I don't
JM> > why this is a headache.
JM> >
JM> Ok. I think we've gone as far as we can with addressing the Pine 4.55
JM> solution to this problem - a discussion I was trying to sort of preempt in
JM> my initial post.

Every problem has several solutions, your solution to the problem is to
try to use a tool that was not designed to do what you want to do, but
want to twist it so that you can accomplish what you want. My advice is
the same. Stop hitting yourself against a wall. Upgrade to Pine4.55.
You'll see the light when you do it, so do it soon.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>
> Every problem has several solutions, your solution to the problem is to
> try to use a tool that was not designed to do what you want to do, but
> want to twist it so that you can accomplish what you want. My advice is
> the same. Stop hitting yourself against a wall. Upgrade to Pine4.55.
> You'll see the light when you do it, so do it soon.
>
Have you tried setting this up Eduardo, using the directions Nancy gave,
and thus know for sure that it won't work? I'm perfectly willing to
accept that, if you have. Or perhaps you have some technical knowledge
beyond hers and know that her proposal will not work? Since I've started
with her directions, I'd like to finish with them (by ruling them out
as ill-informed or confirming by my or someone else's experience that
they really do work) before moving on to other options. I'm not asking
for much, just a confirmation that her solution does or does not work.
And determining that could be a benefit to the Pine community as a
whole: other Pine users could be saved the sort of exercise in
futility I'm going through by trying to follow those directions (those
directions are in the public domain, you know, in the Pine users'
newsgroup). Either it can be generally known that her solution was a
faulty one, or her directions can be corrected or added to so that the
solution really does work as described. Or someone can correct my erroneous
application of them. So, I think I'll keep pursuing this for now.
Anyone else with input on these matters?

Thanks, James

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** James Miller ([email protected]) wrote today:
>
> JM> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
> JM> >
> JM> > Pine4.55 and 4.21 need the same libraries to build, extra libraries
> JM> > like ssl, ldap are optional. Why don't you try it yourself?, I don't
> JM> > why this is a headache.
> JM> >
> JM> Ok. I think we've gone as far as we can with addressing the Pine 4.55
> JM> solution to this problem - a discussion I was trying to sort of preempt in
> JM> my initial post.
>
> Every problem has several solutions, your solution to the problem is to
> try to use a tool that was not designed to do what you want to do, but
> want to twist it so that you can accomplish what you want. My advice is
> the same. Stop hitting yourself against a wall. Upgrade to Pine4.55.
> You'll see the light when you do it, so do it soon.
>
> --
> Eduardo
> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

Something you may not have noticed, James, is
Eduardo's address.

Eduardo is very close to the source of pine.

Now, you could go from that to dismissing his
advice as the typical technical support line that
"we don't support that version anymore, upgrade".

Or, you could deduce that Eduardo knows what he is
talking about when he says that making a current
version would be much less pain than what you are
trying to do.

That said, I believe 4.21 is what was installed
here when they ripped elm out from under me (the
y2k upgrade) and told us that anyone who didn't
use the windows mua could enjoy pine. (Hmmm, that
version is still on autopub and it is, indeed,
4.21.)

We have an imap interface to the exchange server,
not pop (there's another change for the better you
really ought to make). I quickly had pine
automatically collecting e-mail off the imap
server and sorting it into a dozen or more
mailboxes. (Found everything I needed to do that
in the pine help screens - not true of all the
things I'm doing with it.) When I found out that
ldap is a compile time option for pine, the system
administraters upgraded to 4.44 on this system,
with the ldap feature activated, and it is also
picking up my e-mail for me.

dan

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*** James Miller ([email protected]) wrote today:

JM> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
JM> >
JM> > Every problem has several solutions, your solution to the problem is
JM> > to try to use a tool that was not designed to do what you want to
JM> > do, but want to twist it so that you can accomplish what you want.
JM> > My advice is the same. Stop hitting yourself against a wall. Upgrade
JM> > to Pine4.55. You'll see the light when you do it, so do it soon.
JM> >
JM> Have you tried setting this up Eduardo, using the directions Nancy
JM> gave, and thus know for sure that it won't work?

Hello James,

No, I haven't tried them. I know they don't work the way you want them
because I know how to read what's in there.

JM> I'm perfectly willing to accept that, if you have. Or perhaps you
JM> have some technical knowledge beyond hers and know that her proposal
JM> will not work?

That method tries to do the following.

Open the folder defined by that filter (probably INBOX) and get every
possible message from there to a local folder. Put that folder in your
incoming-folders collection and press "TAB" from your INBOX, if there are
new messages in your pop3 INBOX, you won't see them immediately, but in
your local folder where all messages were saved, so if TAB opens that
folder, then you did have new messages, and you just didn't see them in
your INBOX because they were filtered, and if TAB does not open that
folder, then you didn't have new messages to start with.

Main drawback of this method:

Most people will set up this filter in their INBOX, and it will only
work the first time that you opened your INBOX. It will not work in
subsequent openings of INBOX, in particular this means that if new
mail arrives while you are accessing Pine, this new mail will not be
seen by Pine until you quit and restart it.

A slight improvement would be to set up two incoming folders, one to
open the POP3 inbox, and then use this filter to filter new mail to
another incoming folder (or "/var/spool/mail/UID"), which is where you are
actually going to read. This at least avoids the main drawback, since
every time that you open the pop3 folder, messages will be filtered to the
local folder. You may end up with three folders INBOX and other 2 incoming
folders, from where INBOX is useless and only one of the other two really
allows you to read new mail. Not good, but better than quitting Pine to
try to find new mail. This setup can be reduced to two folders, but that
does not avoid the complication of using at least two folders, when one
only wants to use one folder to do the whole process. By the way, I never
recommend to filter e-mail to the mail/ directory, my advice is to put
incoming folders away from the mail/ directory, but that's just my
opinion.

In Pine 4.55, there is a feature called Maildrop. The Maildrop will let
you download all of your messages from a POP3 server to a local folder,
and read them from there without the need to switch folders. Everything
happens in the way users expect it to happen. There is automatic new
message check (which can be disabled if your connection is slow), so you
don't have to reopen the folder and then change from it to the real folder
where messages are. I really mean it, upgrade to Pine4.55.

The only bad thing I can say about maildrops is that setting them up may
be confusing when you don't have much experience setting incoming folders,
so it may not be intuitive for many users. I wish I had an account that
you could borrow where you could see how a maildrop works. You would
probably see why I insist that you try it.

JM> Since I've started with her directions, I'd like to finish with them
JM> (by ruling them out as ill-informed or confirming by my or someone
JM> else's experience that they really do work) before moving on to other
JM> options.

Those directions work, but not in the way that any user would expect it to
work, unless they set them up intentionally this way (and that means, they
know what they are doing). The method described above sounds like "you
must turn on the light in the bedroom before you can run the dishwasher".
It really sounds like there's something wrong in such setup (although if
you put pressure on me to come up with something better, I can't really
think of anything. In case I come up with something better I'll let you
know, but don't hold your breath for it).

JM> I'm not asking for much, just a confirmation that her solution does
JM> or does not work. And determining that could be a benefit to the Pine
JM> community as a whole: other Pine users could be saved the sort of
JM> exercise in futility I'm going through by trying to follow those
JM> directions (those directions are in the public domain, you know, in
JM> the Pine users' newsgroup). Either it can be generally known that her
JM> solution was a faulty one, or her directions can be corrected or added
JM> to so that the solution really does work as described. Or someone can
JM> correct my erroneous application of them. So, I think I'll keep
JM> pursuing this for now. Anyone else with input on these matters?

It's not about Nancy's solution being faulty, it's about understanding the
way it works, and why it has to work that way. Three years ago there was
really no way to do this with Pine, and that was the best approximation
that could be done.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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On Apr 23, 2003, 16:31 (+0100) Adeline Kinehan <[email protected]> wrote:

> If I remove the file /var/spool/mail/$USER and a new mail is sent to my
> Pine account will it create a new /var/spool/mail/$USER file so that the
> new mail is displayed in my inbox?

Well, pine is not responsible for mail delivery.

If your MTA (normally sendmail) and its local deliverer (normally
mail.local) are set up with default settings, mail is delivered to
/var/spool/mail/$USER, and that file is created if it does not exist.

> If not what happens? Mails are not being received by my pine account
> at the moment so I can't test this myself.

Well, it's not a pine problem. It might be that your MTA does not listen
to port 25, or that the MTA is not correctly configured. Test with

$ sendmail -v -bv [email protected]
$ ls | mail -s TEST [email protected]

Otherwise turn to an MTA group.

Mats

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> why can't you select all, save to your local mailbox?
>
Good question. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. I
didn't see a "save all" feature, so I guess my immediate response
should be that I didn't see any very direct way to do this. But I'll be
looking into this further . . .

James

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That's some really interesting information, Eduardo. Sort of a look
behind the scenes at how things are working. I'll be digesting all this
over the next few hours/days.

>On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
> In Pine 4.55, there is a feature called Maildrop. The Maildrop will let
> you download all of your messages from a POP3 server to a local folder,
> and read them from there without the need to switch folders. Everything
> happens in the way users expect it to happen. There is automatic new
> message check (which can be disabled if your connection is slow), so you
> don't have to reopen the folder and then change from it to the real folder
> where messages are. I really mean it, upgrade to Pine4.55.
>
> The only bad thing I can say about maildrops is that setting them up may
> be confusing when you don't have much experience setting incoming folders,
> so it may not be intuitive for many users. I wish I had an account that
> you could borrow where you could see how a maildrop works. You would
> probably see why I insist that you try it.
>
Again, a clarification. This is not for me, as I mentioned in my initial
post. I have Pine 4.53 on my main machine at home and it works fine. It
does just what I want and in the ways I want it to. I am asking these
questions on behalf of a slimmed-down Linux distribution a friend is
updating (again, it's called "Basiclinux"). It is slimmed down because it
targets older hardware (486DX - early Pentium). It also aims to be
somewhat simpler than the big, powerful distros - perhaps lessening the
learning curve for newbies. As I mentioned, it's based on Slackware 7.1.
In order to simplify things, we'd like to use Slackware packages (tgz's)
for all "add-on" utilities and applications. Needless to say, a compiler
is sort of out-of-place in such a distribution - both because it takes up
a lot of precious disk space (120MB for the Slack71 compiler - remember,
the target machines often have drives in the 200MB - 1GB range), but also
because compiling source is not a task that should be expected of newbies.
Incidentally, compiling on a 486 is a real exercize in patience. Ideally,
all add-ons should come from Slack71 - hence part of my fixation with
Pine 4.21 (it comes on the Slack71 CD). Short of that, they should at
least be in tgz format. I'm afraid that, until Pine 4.55
comes out as a .tgz package, it will just not be a realistic option as an
email client for Basiclinux. When it comes out in such a form, it could
then at least become a candidate as an email client, although it would
still have to be tested for dependency problems.

I'll consider your post more carefully - there was alot of information
there. Maybe a workaround can be found for the download-all option. In
any case, as I mentioned previously, Pine 4.21 does work just fine as a
popmail/IMAP checker. It's not as though it's unuseable in its current
state for Basiclinux users. For those who want to download their mail in
batches and write replies offline (for example the Basiclinux user from
New Zealand who has to pay a high cost for internet access by the minute),
some other workaround might be found.

Thanks James

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
> why can't you select all, save to your local mailbox?
>
Because so far I am unable to figure out how to do this. I've gotten as
far as selecting all, but how do I save all? When I try to save, the prog
wants to save only the currently highlighted messsage - despite the fact
the I've selected all. Any further pointers?

James

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, James Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote:
> >
> > why can't you select all, save to your local mailbox?
> >
> Because so far I am unable to figure out how to do this. I've gotten as
> far as selecting all, but how do I save all? When I try to save, the prog
> wants to save only the currently highlighted messsage - despite the fact
> the I've selected all. Any further pointers?
>
Nevermind. I got it. That's the workaround for downloading all messages.
When the message list appears, hit ";", then "A" (for select all), then
"A" again (for apply), then "S" for save. It then saves all to the
folder you select. I think this will be the right workaround for
Basiclinux users who want to download messages in batches and write
replies offline. Thanks to all for your help and suggestions.

James

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, James Miller wrote:

> I've gotten as far as selecting all, but how do I save all?

(A)pply (S)ave will save all selected messages. You can (A)pply many
commands to multiple messages. Check out the bottom of your screen after
you press A to see that you can do.

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Chuck Harding wrote:

> I've tried all the possible Linux build variations but still end up
> with the following error:

I just built it with:

/build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh

Some warnings....but it worked. I've not had a chance to go back and try
it with LDAP or SSL....

Ed

>
> Building bundled tools...
> cd mtest;make
> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
> cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
> cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o
> ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
> mtest.o: In function `smtptest':
> /usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest/mtest.c:701: the `gets' function is dangerous and
> should not be used.
> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS): In function `__libc_csu_init':
> elf-init.oS(.text+0xb): undefined reference to `__init_array_end'
> elf-init.oS(.text+0x10): undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
> elf-init.oS(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS): In function `__libc_csu_fini':
> elf-init.oS(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `__fini_array_end'
> elf-init.oS(.text+0x3b): undefined reference to `__fini_array_start'
> elf-init.oS(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `__fini_array_start'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
> make[1]: *** [bundled] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap'
> make: *** [slx] Error 2
> +---------------------------------------------+
> | Problems building c-client |
> | |
> | Please check the output above for a |
> | possible explanation for this failure |
> +---------------------------------------------+
>
>
> Anyone know what I have to do to get this to work? Thanks.....
>
>

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On 23 Apr 2003 James Miller ([email protected]) wrote:
> >
> Nevermind. I got it. That's the workaround for downloading all messages.
> When the message list appears, hit ";", then "A" (for select all), then
> "A" again (for apply), then "S" for save. It then saves all to the
> folder you select. I think this will be the right workaround for
> Basiclinux users who want to download messages in batches and write
> replies offline. Thanks to all for your help and suggestions.

I'm glad that you figured this out James. BTW, I discuss this
technique (;AAS) and a bunch of other techniques for moving
mailboxes on my Power Pine page in this section:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvMsgs>

Another option you might consider is to use the stand-alone
program called mailutil. If Basiclinux comes with a recent UW
IMAP Toolkit, it should include mailutil (recent versions of Pine
come bundled with mailutil too).

Good luck with Basiclinux (which sounds like it would be useful on my old 486!),
Nancy

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I wonder if you were able to do that. I did

/build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh

but had no chance of luck

----- Original Message -----
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Chuck Harding wrote:
>
> > I've tried all the possible Linux build variations but still end up
> > with the following error:
>
> I just built it with:
>
> ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
>
> Some warnings....but it worked. I've not had a chance to go back and try
> it with LDAP or SSL....
>
> Ed
>
> >
> > Building bundled tools...
> > cd mtest;make
> > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
> > cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
> > cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o
> > ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
> > mtest.o: In function `smtptest':
> > /usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest/mtest.c:701: the `gets' function is
dangerous and
> > should not be used.
> > /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS): In function `__libc_csu_init':
> > elf-init.oS(.text+0xb): undefined reference to `__init_array_end'
> > elf-init.oS(.text+0x10): undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
> > elf-init.oS(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
> > /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS): In function `__libc_csu_fini':
> > elf-init.oS(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `__fini_array_end'
> > elf-init.oS(.text+0x3b): undefined reference to `__fini_array_start'
> > elf-init.oS(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `__fini_array_start'
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
> > make[1]: *** [bundled] Error 2
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap'
> > make: *** [slx] Error 2
> > +---------------------------------------------+
> > | Problems building c-client |
> > | |
> > | Please check the output above for a |
> > | possible explanation for this failure |
> > +---------------------------------------------+
> >
> >
> > Anyone know what I have to do to get this to work? Thanks.....
> >
> >
>
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, David Sudjiman wrote:

> I wonder if you were able to do that. I did
>
> ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
>
> but had no chance of luck

Do you wonder "if" or "how" I was able to do that? :-)

Well, I just tried it and it worked. Maybe I should post the output of
the build process? I can do that when I go home later today. If that
will help....

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Greshko" <[email protected]>
> To: "Pine Discussion Forum" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Anyone built 4.55 on RedHat 9? (fwd)
>
>
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Chuck Harding wrote:
> >
> > > I've tried all the possible Linux build variations but still end up
> > > with the following error:
> >
> > I just built it with:
> >
> > ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
> >
> > Some warnings....but it worked. I've not had a chance to go back and try
> > it with LDAP or SSL....
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > >
> > > Building bundled tools...
> > > cd mtest;make
> > > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
> > > cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
> > > cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o
> > > ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
> > > mtest.o: In function `smtptest':
> > > /usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest/mtest.c:701: the `gets' function is
> dangerous and

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Right.

I need help on installing those pine in my laptop..

Anyone can help?

----- Original Message -----
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> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, David Sudjiman wrote:
>
> > I wonder if you were able to do that. I did
> >
> > ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
> >
> > but had no chance of luck
>
> Do you wonder "if" or "how" I was able to do that? :-)
>
> Well, I just tried it and it worked. Maybe I should post the output of
> the build process? I can do that when I go home later today. If that
> will help....
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Greshko" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Pine Discussion Forum" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: Anyone built 4.55 on RedHat 9? (fwd)
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Chuck Harding wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've tried all the possible Linux build variations but still end up
> > > > with the following error:
> > >
> > > I just built it with:
> > >
> > > ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
> > >
> > > Some warnings....but it worked. I've not had a chance to go back and
try
> > > it with LDAP or SSL....
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Building bundled tools...
> > > > cd mtest;make
> > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
> > > > cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
> > > > cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o
> > > > ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
> > > > mtest.o: In function `smtptest':
> > > > /usr/src/pine4.55/imap/mtest/mtest.c:701: the `gets' function is
> > dangerous and
>
> --
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, David Sudjiman wrote:

> Right.
>
> I need help on installing those pine in my laptop..
>
> Anyone can help?

As I said.... I just "did it". This is on RH 9 mostly up2date

Here is the output from my build...

Script started on Thu 24 Apr 2003 07:01:11 PM CST
]0;egreshko@shrike2:~[egreshko@shrike2 egreshko]$ uname -a
Linux shrike2.greshko.com 2.4.20-9 #1 Wed Apr 2 13:42:50 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
]0;egreshko@shrike2:~[egreshko@shrike2 egreshko]$ tar -zxof pine4.55.tar.gz
]0;egreshko@shrike2:~[egreshko@shrike2 egreshko]$ cd pine4.55
]0;egreshko@shrike2:~/pine4.55[egreshko@shrike2 pine4.55]$ ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
make args are CC=cc lrh

Making c-client library, imapd, and ipopd
eval make CC=cc SSLTYPE=none SPECIALS= lrh
make sslnone
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap'
make[1]: `sslnone' is up to date.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap'
Applying an process to sources...
tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
tools/an "ln -s" src/mailutil mailutil
tools/an "ln -s" src/mlock mlock
tools/an "ln -s" src/dmail dmail
tools/an "ln -s" src/tmail tmail
ln -s tools/an .
make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=none EXTRASPECIALS='' BUILDTYPE=lnp \
SPECIALS="GSSDIR=/usr/kerberos SSLDIR=/usr/share/ssl SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl SSLLIB=/usr/lib"
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap'
Building c-client for lnp...
echo `cat SPECIALS` > c-client/SPECIALS
cd c-client;make lnp EXTRACFLAGS=''\
EXTRALDFLAGS=''\
EXTRADRIVERS='mbox'\
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=''\
PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=none\
GSSDIR=/usr/kerberos SSLDIR=/usr/share/ssl SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl SSLLIB=/usr/lib
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/c-client'
make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=none `cat SPECIALS` OS=lnx \
SIGTYPE=psx CHECKPW=pam CRXTYPE=nfs \
SPOOLDIR=/var/spool \
ACTIVEFILE=/var/lib/news/active \
RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh \
BASECFLAGS="-g -fno-omit-frame-pointer -O6" \
BASELDFLAGS="-lpam -ldl"
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/c-client'
sh -c 'rm -rf auths.c crexcl.c nfstest.c linkage.[ch] siglocal.c osdep*.[ch] *.o ARCHIVE *FLAGS *TYPE c-client.a || true'
Once-only environment setup...
echo cc > CCTYPE
echo -g -fno-omit-frame-pointer -O6 '' > CFLAGS
echo -DCREATEPROTO=unixproto -DEMPTYPROTO=unixproto \
-DMAILSPOOL=\"/var/spool/mail\" \
-DANONYMOUSHOME=\"/var/spool/mail/anonymous\" \
-DACTIVEFILE=\"/var/lib/news/active\" -DNEWSSPOOL=\"/var/spool/news\" \
-DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -DLOCKPGM=\"/etc/mlock\" > OSCFLAGS
echo -lpam -ldl > LDFLAGS
echo "ar rc c-client.a osdep.o mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o utf8.o siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a" > ARCHIVE
echo lnx > OSTYPE
/drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news phile dummy
/mkauths md5 pla log
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/c-client'
echo -DMD5ENABLE=\"/etc/cram-md5.pwd\" >> OSCFLAGS
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/c-client'
ln -s os_lnx.h osdep.h
ln -s os_lnx.c osdepbas.c
ln -s log_std.c osdeplog.c
ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c
ln -s crx_nfs.c crexcl.c
sh -c '(test -f /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h -a lnx != sc5 -a lnx != sco) && ln -s nfstnew.c nfstest.c || ln -s nfstold.c nfstest.c'
Standard password authentication
ln -s ckp_pam.c osdepckp.c
Building without SSL support
ln -s ssl_none.c osdepssl.c
cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c
Building OS-dependent module
If you get No such file error messages for files x509.h, ssl.h,
pem.h, buffer.h, bio.h, and crypto.h, that means that OpenSSL
is not installed on your system. Either install OpenSSL first
or build with command: make lnx SSLTYPE=none
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` misc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` newsrc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smanager.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` utf8.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` siglocal.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` dummy.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pseudo.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` netmsg.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` flstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` fdstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` rfc822.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` nntp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smtp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` imap4r1.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pop3.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` unix.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbox.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mmdf.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` tenex.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mtx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` news.c
news.c: In function `news_open':
news.c:309: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` phile.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mh.c
mh.c: In function `mh_ping':
mh.c:638: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
mh.c: In function `mh_append':
mh.c:895: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mx.c
mx.c: In function `mx_ping':
mx.c:592: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
sh -c 'rm -rf c-client.a || true'
ar rc c-client.a osdep.o mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o utf8.o siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/c-client'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/c-client'
echo lnp > OSTYPE
touch rebuild
sh -c 'rm -rf rebuild || true'
Building bundled tools...
cd mtest;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
mtest.o(.text+0x1516): In function `smtptest':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mtest/mtest.c:701: the `gets' function is dangerous and should not be used.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mtest'
cd ipopd;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/ipopd'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o ipop2d.o ipop2d.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop2d ipop2d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o ipop3d.o ipop3d.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop3d ipop3d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/ipopd'
cd imapd;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/imapd'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -DANOFILE=\"/etc/anonymous.newsgroups\" -DALERTFILE=\"/etc/imapd.alert\" -DUSERALERTFILE=\".imapalert\" -DSHUTDOWNFILE=\"/etc/nologin\" -c -o imapd.o imapd.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -DANOFILE=\"/etc/anonymous.newsgroups\" -DALERTFILE=\"/etc/imapd.alert\" -DUSERALERTFILE=\".imapalert\" -DSHUTDOWNFILE=\"/etc/nologin\" -o imapd imapd.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/imapd'
cd mailutil;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mailutil'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mailutil.o mailutil.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mailutil mailutil.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mailutil'
cd mlock;make || true
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mlock'
cc `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o mlock.o mlock.c
cc `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mlock mlock.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/mlock'
cd dmail;make || true
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/dmail'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o dmail.o dmail.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o dmail dmail.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/dmail'
cd tmail;make || true
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/tmail'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c -o tmail.o tmail.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o tmail tmail.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap/tmail'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/imap'

Making Pico and Pilot
make CC=cc -f makefile.lnx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.h os.h
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o main.o main.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o attach.o attach.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o basic.o basic.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o bind.o bind.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o browse.o browse.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o buffer.o buffer.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o composer.o composer.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o display.o display.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o file.o file.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o fileio.o fileio.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o line.o line.c
cd osdep; make includer os-lnx.c; cd ..
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/osdep'
cc -o includer includer.c
/includer < os-lnx.ic > os-lnx.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/osdep'
rm -f pico_os.c
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c pico_os.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o pico_os.o pico_os.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o pico.o pico.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o random.o random.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o region.o region.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o search.o search.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o window.o window.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o word.o word.c
ar ru libpico.a attach.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o pico_os.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o window.o word.o
ranlib libpico.a
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE main.o libpico.a -lncurses -o pico
libpico.a(pico_os.o)(.text+0x3ef3): In function `errstr':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/pico_os.c:2663: `sys_errlist' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
libpico.a(pico_os.o)(.text+0x3ee7):/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/pico_os.c:2663: `sys_nerr' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o pilot.o pilot.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE pilot.o libpico.a -lncurses -o pilot
libpico.a(pico_os.o)(.text+0x3ef3): In function `errstr':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/pico_os.c:2663: `sys_errlist' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
libpico.a(pico_os.o)(.text+0x3ee7):/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/pico_os.c:2663: `sys_nerr' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead

Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
make CC=cc -f makefile.lnx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.h os.h
/cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o addrbook.o addrbook.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o adrbkcmd.o adrbkcmd.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o adrbklib.o adrbklib.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o args.o args.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o bldaddr.o bldaddr.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o context.o context.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o filter.o filter.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o folder.o folder.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o help.o help.c
/cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o helptext.o helptext.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o imap.o imap.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o init.o init.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o mailcap.o mailcap.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o mailcmd.o mailcmd.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o mailindx.o mailindx.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o mailpart.o mailpart.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o mailview.o mailview.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o newmail.o newmail.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o other.o other.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o pine.o pine.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o reply.o reply.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o screen.o screen.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o send.o send.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o signals.o signals.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o status.o status.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o strings.o strings.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o takeaddr.o takeaddr.c
cd osdep; make includer os-lnx.c; cd ..
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pine/osdep'
cc -o includer includer.c
/includer < os-lnx.ic > os-lnx.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pine/osdep'
rm -f os.c
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c os.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o os.o os.c
echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c
echo "char hoststamp[]="\"`hostname`\"";" >> date.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o adrbkcmd.o adrbklib.o args.o bldaddr.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o takeaddr.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -lncurses `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
os.o(.text+0x13a2): In function `error_description':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pine/os.c:961: `sys_errlist' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
os.o(.text+0x1396):/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pine/os.c:960: `sys_nerr' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o rpload.o rpload.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -o rpload rpload.o ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -lncurses `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
rpload.o(.text+0x1484): In function `err_desc':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pine/rpload.c:652: `sys_errlist' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
./pico/libpico.a(pico_os.o)(.text+0x3ee7): In function `errstr':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/pico_os.c:2663: `sys_nerr' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o rpdump.o rpdump.c
cc -g -DDEBUG -DDEBUGJOURNAL -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -o rpdump rpdump.o ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -lncurses `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
rpdump.o(.text+0xdda): In function `err_desc':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pine/rpdump.c:421: `sys_errlist' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead
./pico/libpico.a(pico_os.o)(.text+0x3ee7): In function `errstr':
/home/egreshko/pine4.55/pico/pico_os.c:2663: `sys_nerr' is deprecated; use `strerror' or `strerror_r' instead

Links to executables are in bin directory:
text data bss dec hex filename
3499332 252400 40412 3792144 39dd10 bin/pine
641302 8420 2144 651866 9f25a bin/mtest
677746 8572 66772 753090 b7dc2 bin/imapd
196262 5268 2876 204406 31e76 bin/pico
193725 5108 2876 201709 313ed bin/pilot
825683 12728 4048 842459 cdadb bin/rpdump
828043 12728 4048 844819 ce413 bin/rpload
640170 8412 1120 649702 9e9e6 bin/mailutil
639168 8416 2144 649728 9ea00 bin/ipop2d
643814 8444 1248 653506 9f8c2 bin/ipop3d
Done
]0;egreshko@shrike2:~/pine4.55[egreshko@shrike2 pine4.55]$ rpm -qs[Ka | grep glibc
glibc-2.3.2-27.9
glibc-debug-2.3.2-27.9
glibc-kernheaders-2.4-8.10
glibc-utils-2.3.2-27.9
glibc-common-2.3.2-27.9
glibc-devel-2.3.2-27.9
glibc-profile-2.3.2-27.9
]0;egreshko@shrike2:~/pine4.55[egreshko@shrike2 pine4.55]$ exit
exit

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> From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>

>On 23 Apr 2003 James Miller ([email protected]) wrote:
>> >
>> Nevermind. I got it. That's the workaround for downloading all messa=
ges.
>> When the message list appears, hit ";", then "A" (for select all), the=
n
>> "A" again (for apply), then "S" for save. It then saves all to the
>> folder you select. I think this will be the right workaround for
>> Basiclinux users who want to download messages in batches and write
>> replies offline. Thanks to all for your help and suggestions.
>
>I'm glad that you figured this out James. BTW, I discuss this
>technique (;AAS) and a bunch of other techniques for moving
>mailboxes on my Power Pine page in this section:
>
> <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvMsgs>
>
I actually spoke too soon. I figured out how to select and download all =
on a machine that had 4.53 installed on it. When I went to try it on the=
machine where I really needed this to work (486DX2 66 with Basiclinux) w=
here Pine 4.21 is installed, it wouldn't work. The ";" ("select") comman=
d was apparently not implemented in 4.21. So I'm sort of back to square =
one with figuring how to download all mesages in Pine 4.21. Incidentally=
, I tried installing 2 later versions of Pine (4.53 and another from Slac=
kware 8.0 [4.44?] - both of which come in Slackware packages), but both h=
ad dependency problems, as I thought they would. I think I've already lo=
oked at the section of your page you reference: is that the one with the =
link to the pine.comp newsgroup discussion I posted at the beginning of t=
his thread, and where you also link to a list of MRA's? Anyway, I'll hav=
e another look in case I haven't already seen it.

>Another option you might consider is to use the stand-alone
>program called mailutil. If Basiclinux comes with a recent UW
>IMAP Toolkit, it should include mailutil (recent versions of Pine
>come bundled with mailutil too).
>
Basiclinux doesn't come with much of anything - not even Xwindows. The b=
ase install is only about 10MB. But it's fairly easy to expand by using =
Slackware packages - preferably from the Slack71 CD. Not sure about the =
IMAP toolkit: I know I've seen a Pine IMAP tgz file in at least some Slac=
kware archives. That might be the one you're talking about. I looked a =
bit at mailutil, but it wasn't immediately obvious to me how that would h=
elp (I don't claim to be a computing guru or anything). If you can give =
further pointers on how mailutil would fill the bill, I'd be interested t=
o hear them.

Thanks, James

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, James Miller wrote:

> I actually spoke too soon. I figured out how to select and download =
> all on a machine that had 4.53 installed on it. When I went to try it =
> on the machine where I really needed this to work (486DX2 66 with =
> Basiclinux) where Pine 4.21 is installed, it wouldn't work. The ";" =

Perhaps it is past time to point out that the
proper solution for what you want to do is to
configure fetchmail to collect the mail from the
server (my cron job runs once an hour) and
procmail to do the local delivery and then use any
pine from essentially its entire history to read
the local mailboxes.

And check whether the server implements IMAP as
well as POP. IMAP comes closer to doing all the
things you expect of mail transport.

After all, pine is not intended to be a Mail
Transport Agent. It is a Mail User Agent.

dan

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*** James Miller ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

JM> >> Nevermind. I got it. That's the workaround for downloading all
JM> >> messages. When the message list appears, hit ";", then "A" (for
JM> >> select all), then "A" again (for apply), then "S" for save. It
JM> >> then saves all to the folder you select. I think this will be the
JM> >> right workaround for Basiclinux users who want to download messages
JM> >> in batches and write replies offline. Thanks to all for your help
JM> >> and suggestions.
JM>
JM> I actually spoke too soon. I figured out how to select and download
JM> all on a machine that had 4.53 installed on it. When I went to try it
JM> on the machine where I really needed this to work (486DX2 66 with
JM> Basiclinux) where Pine 4.21 is installed, it wouldn't work. The ";"
JM> ("select") command was apparently not implemented in 4.21.

James,

Press M S C and [X] enable-aggregate-command-set.

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Ed Greshko wrote:

> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:23:56 +0800
> From: Ed Greshko <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Anyone built 4.55 on RedHat 9? (fwd)
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Chuck Harding wrote:
>
> > I've tried all the possible Linux build variations but still end up
> > with the following error:
>
> I just built it with:
>
> ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh
>
> Some warnings....but it worked. I've not had a chance to go back and try
> it with LDAP or SSL....
>
> Ed
>

Well, as you can see by the headers on this message, it worked. I think
maybe that the library mentioned in my build output was updated by a
recent up2date run which fixed the problem. That's what I get for being
on the bleeding edge B-) Thanks for the responses though.

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> From: daniel lance herrick <[email protected]>

>Perhaps it is past time to point out that the
>proper solution for what you want to do is to
>configure fetchmail to collect the mail from the
>server (my cron job runs once an hour) and
>procmail to do the local delivery and then use any
>pine from essentially its entire history to read
>the local mailboxes.
>
I don't think that's as much a matter of timing as pertinence, or maybe i=
mpertinence. Again, I only brought this subject up because I read on the=
web, following a link from a major Pine promotion site, a post that seem=
ed to indicate the Pine could sort of approximate acting as an MRA, too. =
I personally have never been under the impression that Pine is an MRA pe=
r se, just that it can be sort of tweaked to approximate the behavior of =
one. That could be good news to a newbie, who may not be aware of all th=
e separate components that come together to bring him mail, much less hav=
e any idea how to go about setting them up and making them play nicely to=
gether. And, as I've stated, Basiclinux - the distro on whose behalf I a=
m making these inquiries - makes some pretensions to being newbie-friendl=
y. Pine 4.53 gives a close enough approximation to a full MRA/MUA packag=
e for my purposes (with its select/save all). Now I just need to see if =
4.21 can mimic that. If not, that won't be a huge problem: Basiclinux us=
ers who have cheap internet access can still use Pine 4.21 as a popmail I=
MAP checker, like I do. For those who need to download their mail in bat=
ches other newbie-friendly solutions can likely be found.

Btw, I don't suppose I could send Basiclinux users to you with their fetc=
hmail configuration questions?

>And check whether the server implements IMAP as
>well as POP. IMAP comes closer to doing all the
>things you expect of mail transport.
>
The people I have in mind (mainly the guy in New Zealand) rely on POP, no=
t IMAP.

I'm off to test out Eduardo's latest suggestion for batch saving on Pine =
4.21. Thanks for the tip, Eduardo.

James

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I know I've asked this before, but I've never gotten a response.

In the past few months, I see the following at the bottom of the screen
when I go to a new folder, and/or compose a postponed message (which I guess
is implicitly opening a new folder):

[>SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN<]

Now, what does this *actually* mean? Seems to me like "plain" means no
authentication. Where is the security problem?

How do I fix it from the pine point of view (do I need to upgrade something?)
or if I can find someone that runs the mail servers, what can I specifically
tell them? (Pine isn't "supported" or anything..)

If all else fails, where can I shut up this warning in pine and recompile?

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Dear All,

Thanks to Ed Greshko! it works

I only need to pay more attention with error results. Install ncurses, and
else... Just do the ./build NOSSL NOLDAP lrh

Questions
1. What is SSL support in Pine acctually for?
2. Any chance I can use SSL in my rhl9? how?
3. Can pine455 fetch may email from pop3 server?
4. I'm using fetchmail. As I'm opening pine in a console, I'm fetching
emails from another console. How can I make pine 'refresh' it look and
move all my mail to my pine (or mymbox)?

thx
dave
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*** David Sudjiman ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

DS> Questions
DS> 1. What is SSL support in Pine acctually for?

So that you can authenticate to the server securely. Nobody will be able
to steal your password by "sniffing" the connection.

DS> 2. Any chance I can use SSL in my rhl9? how?

If it is installed, then "./build NOLDAP lrh" should do it.

DS> 3. Can pine455 fetch may email from pop3 server?

Yes, see below.

DS> 4. I'm using fetchmail. As I'm opening pine in a console, I'm fetching
DS> emails from another console. How can I make pine 'refresh' it look
DS> and move all my mail to my pine (or mymbox)?

There are several ways to use to read e-mail from a POP3 account. My
advice is that you use a "maildrop". Press M R to read about maildrops. If
the instructions there are not enough in order to configure a maildrop,
you can try my web page at

http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/maildrop/

where I have directions on configuring maildrops. If you use a maildrop,
you will not need to use fetchmail, and I highly recommend you to try this
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I was surprised today to see that the selected viewer for an
application/octet-stream attachment was apparently determined by the
filename extension overriding the MIME type. I did not think Pine did
this (and in fact, I thought it has been my experience that it did
not). Did this change in some relatively recent version? I'm running
4.44 on FreeBSD. Or maybe I'm hallucinating? I looked through the
built-in help and also searched the pine web without finding an
answer.

Here are the attachment details:

Type : Application
Subtype : OCTET-STREAM
Encoding : BASE64
Parameters : NAME = foo.pdf
Disposition : ATTACHMENT Approx. Size : 741,567 bytes
Display Method : "acroread4 <datafile> 2>/dev/null"

Here are the relevant lines from my .mailcap file:

application/pdf;acroread4 %s 2>/dev/null
application/octet-stream;emacs %s 2>/dev/null

-- Steve

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Hi,

How can I transfer my pine saved mail folder into windows outlook?
thanks

Regards

-Franklin
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Stephen Casner wrote:

> I was surprised today to see that the selected viewer for an
> application/octet-stream attachment was apparently determined by the
> filename extension overriding the MIME type.

What does your mime.types file say about the .pdf extension? If Pine
can't determine what to do with an attachment based on the .mailcap
file, it might use the mime.types file to figure it out.

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>
> JM> >> Nevermind. I got it. That's the workaround for downloading all
> JM> >> messages. When the message list appears, hit ";", then "A" (for
> JM> >> select all), then "A" again (for apply), then "S" for save. It
> JM> >> then saves all to the folder you select. I think this will be the
> JM> >> right workaround for Basiclinux users who want to download messages
> JM> >> in batches and write replies offline. Thanks to all for your help
> JM> >> and suggestions.
> JM>
> JM> I actually spoke too soon. I figured out how to select and download
> JM> all on a machine that had 4.53 installed on it. When I went to try it
> JM> on the machine where I really needed this to work (486DX2 66 with
> JM> Basiclinux) where Pine 4.21 is installed, it wouldn't work. The ";"
> JM> ("select") command was apparently not implemented in 4.21.
>
> James,
>
> Press M S C and [X] enable-aggregate-command-set.
>
Thanks so much for this tip, Eduardo. It got Pine 4.21 working such that
I can easily make it download all messages from the server to a local folder.
This will make Pine 4.21 a great email candidate for Basiclinux users,
even for those who might have difficulty configuring an MRA yet want/need
to retrieve all messages locally.

James

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Hi,

Best is to process your mail with procmail and Cc: mail to your Outlook mailbox.

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On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, Fu Cheng Peng, Franklin (Dr) wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> How can I transfer my pine saved mail folder into windows outlook?
> thanks
>
> Regards
>
> -Franklin
>

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Stephen Casner wrote:

> I was surprised today to see that the selected viewer for an
> application/octet-stream attachment was apparently determined by the
> filename extension overriding the MIME type. I did not think Pine did
> this (and in fact, I thought it has been my experience that it did
> not). Did this change in some relatively recent version? I'm running
> 4.44 on FreeBSD. Or maybe I'm hallucinating? I looked through the
> built-in help and also searched the pine web without finding an
> answer.

Hi Steve,

While attachment handling of files with extensions has changed a little
since the 4.5x series, it looks like the behavior you're seeing has been
there since 4.00. In the current behavior, mailcap entries take
precedence over file extensions *except for* application/octet-stream.
It does sound like the right thing to do is to check for a mailcap entry
for octet-stream as well, and do file extensions only if there is no such
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that, but if you want to fix it for yourself, then the patch below should
suffice.

Thanks for the report,
Jeff

------------

--- mailcap.c.REAL Wed Nov 27 15:22:53 2002
+++ mailcap.c Mon Apr 28 17:11:14 2003
@@ -637,9 +637,7 @@

mc_init();

- if(check_extension ||
- (type == TYPEAPPLICATION
- && subtype && !strucmp(subtype,"octet-stream"))){
+ if(check_extension){
char *namep;
MT_MAP_T e2b;

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On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, Gopi Sundaram wrote:
> What does your mime.types file say about the .pdf extension? If Pine
> can't determine what to do with an attachment based on the .mailcap
> file, it might use the mime.types file to figure it out.

I think that may explain my confusion. On the computer where I saw
the viewer selection based on .pdf extension, this is a
/etc/mime.types file with an "application/pdf pdf" entry. On the
other computer where my mailcap entry for application/octet-stream was
follwed, there was no /etc/mime.types file. (On both machines, the
~/.mime.types file is in the format Netscape likes and pine ignores.)

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Jeff Franklin wrote:
> While attachment handling of files with extensions has changed a little
> since the 4.5x series, it looks like the behavior you're seeing has been
> there since 4.00.

I thought that might be the case as I looked back in the change notes,
but I couln't find anything that explained the extension-based behavior.

> In the current behavior, mailcap entries take
> precedence over file extensions *except for* application/octet-stream.
> It does sound like the right thing to do is to check for a mailcap entry
> for octet-stream as well, and do file extensions only if there is no such
> entry (which should be the majority of cases). We'll go ahead and change
> that, but if you want to fix it for yourself, then the patch below should
> suffice.

Well, maybe not. I set application/octet-stream to invoke emacs
primarily so that I could poke around unknown attachments that might
show up. It is convenient to invoke acroread on when the attachment
has a .pdf extension, so maybe it is reasonable to check for an
association in mime.types first before following the .mailcap entry
for application/octet-stream (if one exists).

I assume that for PC-Pine an application/octet-stream with a nasty
extension such as .exe or .scr will not cause the attachment to be
executed.

-- Steve

p.s. Sorry for you two guys getting two copies of the above message.
The first one went out with the wrong "From:" and hence was rejected
by the pine-info mailer. For some reason, the rule that selects a
role with my [email protected] address when [email protected] is
a participant fails when I "apply reply" on two selected messages
whereas it works fine if I reply to just one message. I assume that
is a bug. Has it been fixed between 4.44 and 4.55?

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Dear users,

I'm using pine455 on my rhl9 tecra8100.

I cannot use my mouse properly to copy and paste text from console or
there should be some tricks that I don't know?

When I was using my mouse, just to move it around the text. My pine got
crazy with its look.

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Can someone tell me why I can't send from PC-Pine (4.55) from my main
account when connected to the internet via a dial-up connection other than
that provided by that accounts provider? Pine logs on to the pop3 server
fine and retrieves all mail from that account (with password entry) when
dialing up via my alternate providers, but if I try to send I get a
recipient address rejected message.

This never was a problem when I telnetted to my former unix shell at the
provider's office and unix pine 4.33 - even if I dialed up on a third
party's account.

I would like to still have the flexibility of sending from my main account
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will enable me to satisfy whatever security requirements are involved?

Thanks in advance

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On Apr 29, 2003, 12:10 (+0200) Bruce Cohen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can someone tell me why I can't send from PC-Pine (4.55) from my main
> account when connected to the internet via a dial-up connection other than
> that provided by that accounts provider? Pine logs on to the pop3 server
> fine and retrieves all mail from that account (with password entry) when
> dialing up via my alternate providers, but if I try to send I get a
> recipient address rejected message.
>
> This never was a problem when I telnetted to my former unix shell at the
> provider's office and unix pine 4.33 - even if I dialed up on a third
> party's account.
>
> I would like to still have the flexibility of sending from my main account
> no matter how I dial in - is there an additional configuration option that
> will enable me to satisfy whatever security requirements are involved?

Normally, SMTP servers are closed for relaying from remote users.
Sometimes relaying is offered through SMTP AUTH. Go to Setup, Config.
Select the "smtp-server" setting and press "?" to read how to set SMTP
AUTH.

Mats

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dufberg: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:18:53 +0100 (CET)
dufberg: From: Mats Dufberg <[email protected]>
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dufberg: Subject: Re: I STILL cannot send mail through Sendmail 8.12.8
dufberg:
dufberg: On Mar 4, 2003, 21:52 (-0500) Jessica Blank <[email protected]> wrote:
dufberg:
dufberg: > When I try to send mail, I get: (in the syslog)
dufberg: >
dufberg: > Mar 4 21:44:27 knife sendmail[22406]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(jessica): can not
dufberg: > write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0,
dufberg: > required=9001): Permission denied
dufberg:
dufberg: Sendmail has been started by the non-priviledged user jessica. It is
dufberg: SGID wheel, but it should probably be SGID smmsp (GID 25). What are the
dufberg: permissions on /var/spool/clientmqueue?
dufberg:
dufberg:
dufberg: Mats

I know this is almost 2 months old, but this problem still exists for me.
I also know that this is sendmail problem, not a Pine problem, because
dtmail gives me the same error. (where's the sendmail mailing list?)

Sorry for non-Pine post. Didnt have time to correct the problem until
now. Google hasnt given me much of an answer.

sendmail 8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit on Solaris 9

I have similar /var/log/syslog errors as Jessica reported:

Apr 29 14:20:36 concept sendmail[3914]: [ID 801593 mail.crit] NOQUEUE: SYSERR(sbirl): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=14, required=25): Permission denied

My 'id -a', uid=100(sbirl) gid=14(sysadmin) groups=14(sysadmin),25(smmsp)

drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 512 Apr 29 15:51 /var/spool/clientmqueue/

I wouldnt open up world permissions on the directory and Im not about to
add all the users into the smmsp group. Must be sendmail.cf problem,
right?

Thanks

-- Birl

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On Apr 29, 2003, 15:57 (-0400) Birl <[email protected]> wrote:

> Apr 29 14:20:36 concept sendmail[3914]: [ID 801593 mail.crit] NOQUEUE:
> SYSERR(sbirl): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/
> (RunAsGid=14, required=25): Permission denied
>
> My 'id -a', uid=100(sbirl) gid=14(sysadmin) groups=14(sysadmin),25(smmsp)
>
> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 512 Apr 29 15:51 /var/spool/clientmqueue/
>
>
> I wouldnt open up world permissions on the directory and Im not about to
> add all the users into the smmsp group. Must be sendmail.cf problem,
> right?

It could be that sendmail is not SGID smmsp.

If sendmail listens to port 25 localhost, you could let pine use SMTP to
send mail instead of calling sendmail directly.

Mats

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On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Stephen Casner wrote:

> I thought that might be the case as I looked back in the change notes,
> but I couln't find anything that explained the extension-based behavior.

The amount of detail provided in the change notes has varied from version
to version. Being a major release, the 4.00 notes probably have a lot of
minor changes that didn't make it to the change notes. Our recent
releases have had more detailed release notes.

> Well, maybe not. I set application/octet-stream to invoke emacs
> primarily so that I could poke around unknown attachments that might
> show up. It is convenient to invoke acroread on when the attachment
> has a .pdf extension, so maybe it is reasonable to check for an
> association in mime.types first before following the .mailcap entry
> for application/octet-stream (if one exists).

Unfortunately, you've already convinced me that the original behavior was
a bug :) Now I'm torn. I think the safe thing to do is to do what is
expected of us in the mailcap file. This is akin to an image/gif file
that has a .exe extension (which is what some viruses have done).
mailcap dictates that we should open it as a gif and not an exe. I think
the same should be true for octet-stream. The downside of this is that it
only allows for the mailcap entry to be used, and never the extension.
Off the top of my head, a solution to the problem at hand could be an
octet-stream mailcap entry that is a wrapper that determines the right
thing to do.

> I assume that for PC-Pine an application/octet-stream with a nasty
> extension such as .exe or .scr will not cause the attachment to be
> executed.

PC-Pine treats all extensions equally: if the attachment is to be viewed
externally (ie not from within pine), prompt to make sure pine should
really do that. We decided against having a list of potentially dangerous
attachments, because that list would be a constantly moving target (.doc
would have to be in this list as well). I think it was mrc who I heard
mention a list of potentially dangerous extensions which numbered in the
hundreds.

> p.s. Sorry for you two guys getting two copies of the above message.
> The first one went out with the wrong "From:" and hence was rejected
> by the pine-info mailer. For some reason, the rule that selects a
> role with my [email protected] address when [email protected] is
> a participant fails when I "apply reply" on two selected messages
> whereas it works fine if I reply to just one message. I assume that
> is a bug. Has it been fixed between 4.44 and 4.55?

That behavior is still there. I think the decision was to not try to role
match on more than message. It might be a more sensible thing to check if
the criteria match all selected messages to determine if a role should be
applied, but I'm probably overlooking something.

Jeff

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On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Jeff Franklin wrote:

> I think the decision was to not try to role match on more than
> message. It might be a more sensible thing to check if the criteria
> match all selected messages to determine if a role should be applied,
> but I'm probably overlooking something.

Indeed. This had been brought up in late 1999.

My suggestion was, if there are multiple messages to match a role
against, just bring up a list of roles for the user to choose from.

Of course it's still annoying that there is no analogue to # for
replying and forwarding. If there were such commands, then replying to
multiple messages with a role would be that much easier: (A)pply
reply-with-role

--
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Just updated to 4.55, and just got resubscribed. Glad to see that Pine now
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sbirl: Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:57:47 -0400 (EDT)
sbirl:
sbirl: dufberg: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:18:53 +0100 (CET)
sbirl: dufberg:
sbirl: dufberg: On Mar 4, 2003, 21:52 (-0500) Jessica Blank <[email protected]> wrote:
sbirl: dufberg:
sbirl: dufberg: > When I try to send mail, I get: (in the syslog)
sbirl: dufberg: >
sbirl: dufberg: > Mar 4 21:44:27 knife sendmail[22406]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(jessica): can not
sbirl: dufberg: > write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0,
sbirl: dufberg: > required=9001): Permission denied
sbirl: dufberg:
sbirl: dufberg: Sendmail has been started by the non-priviledged user jessica. It is
sbirl: dufberg: SGID wheel, but it should probably be SGID smmsp (GID 25). What are the
sbirl: dufberg: permissions on /var/spool/clientmqueue?
sbirl: dufberg:
sbirl: dufberg:
sbirl: dufberg: Mats
sbirl:
sbirl:
sbirl:
sbirl: I know this is almost 2 months old, but this problem still exists
sbirl: for me. I also know that this is sendmail problem, not a Pine
sbirl: problem, because dtmail gives me the same error. (where's the
sbirl: sendmail mailing list?)
sbirl:
sbirl: Sorry for non-Pine post. Didnt have time to correct the problem
sbirl: until now. Google hasnt given me much of an answer.
sbirl:
sbirl:
sbirl: sendmail 8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit on Solaris 9
sbirl:
sbirl: I have similar /var/log/syslog errors as Jessica reported:
sbirl:
sbirl: Apr 29 14:20:36 concept sendmail[3914]: [ID 801593 mail.crit] NOQUEUE: SYSERR(sbirl): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=14, required=25): Permission denied
sbirl:
sbirl: My 'id -a', uid=100(sbirl) gid=14(sysadmin) groups=14(sysadmin),25(smmsp)
sbirl:
sbirl: drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 512 Apr 29 15:51 /var/spool/clientmqueue/
sbirl:
sbirl:
sbirl: I wouldnt open up world permissions on the directory and Im not
sbirl: about to add all the users into the smmsp group. Must be
sbirl: sendmail.cf problem, right?
sbirl:
sbirl:
sbirl: Thanks
sbirl:
sbirl: -- Birl
sbirl:

>From news://comp.mail.sendmail

Ken K> I think you need to sgid the sendmail binary.
Ken K>
Ken K> chmod g+s /path/to/sendmail
Ken K>
Ken K> Not 100% on this one. Also make sure the group is set to smmsp on
Ken K> the binary.
Ken K>
Ken K> ken k

Yes, that it was it.

change from:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 644684 Mar 31 11:47 /usr/lib/sendmail*

change to:
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 644684 Mar 31 11:47 /usr/lib/sendmail*

Thanks to everyone, including Ken K., Mats Dufberg and Mike Brudenell for
their answers.

Thanks

Scott Birl
Senior Systems Administrator Computer Services Temple University
1805 North Broad Street Philadelphia Pennsylvania 19122 United States
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Greetings

Recently I compiled 4.55 wanting to go from my good'ol 4.44.
Compiling was no sweat, but the new runtime has some
peculiarities. Hope y'all can give me some hints what to do.

First, upon starting pine "hangs" a long time reading some
INBOX. I'm using imap so pine should not look for a local inbox(?).
Then pine finally gives up and ask for password to my IMAP-inbox.
I've been using imap successfully for a long time with

inbox-path=3D{imap.server/user=3Dmyusername}inbox

in my .pinerc. This waiting behavior was not present in 4.44. Why
is pine hanging around instead of immediately connect to the
imap server. Is SSL or LDAP spooking around?

Further, when done reading my imap-inbox I'm presented with
the following message

"[Invalid patterns line "use-termdef"]"

I've successfully used colors in 4.44 without any complaints. So, I
reentered my selection of "use-termdef" using pine's own configuration
menu. But still the message appears. But the colors are fine! (The
message is just annoying that's all.)

Here's my build line:
=2E/build CC=3Dgcc SYSTEM_PINERC=3D/etc/pine.conf DEBUG=3D-O lrh
Mostly empty plus

# Controls display of color
# color-style=3Duse-termdef
color-style=3D

System info: Basically Redhat-distro 7.3.
$uname -r
kernel 2.4.18-3pcnet32-patched
(The kernel is 2.4.18. I just had to patch the pcnet32 driver.
Long story not relevant(?).)
$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)
$ rpm -qa|grep glibc
glibc-2.2.93-5
glibc-kernheaders-2.4-7.14
glibc-common-2.2.93-5
glibc-utils-2.2.93-5
glibc-devel-2.2.93-5

All comments are welcome

Regards
Runar J=F8rgensen
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Runar J=F8rgensen wrote:

> Greetings
>
> Recently I compiled 4.55 wanting to go from my good'ol 4.44.
> Compiling was no sweat, but the new runtime has some
> peculiarities. Hope y'all can give me some hints what to do.
>
> First, upon starting pine "hangs" a long time reading some
> INBOX. I'm using imap so pine should not look for a local inbox(?).
> Then pine finally gives up and ask for password to my IMAP-inbox.
> I've been using imap successfully for a long time with
>
> inbox-path=3D{imap.server/user=3Dmyusername}inbox
>
> in my .pinerc. This waiting behavior was not present in 4.44. Why
> is pine hanging around instead of immediately connect to the
> imap server. Is SSL or LDAP spooking around?

I'm still running 4.44 on Solaris.

I always had the infuriating loooonnnng timeout on
startup before it asked for a password.

Recently, for some other reason, I had a system
manager looking at my .pinerc and he added a
portnumber to the inbox-path configuration:

inbox-path=3D{rfexc1.psc.bellhow.com:143}

and that delay disappeared. (The server in this
case is a Microsoft server.)

Finding out what port on the server answers and
putting its number in the configuration might
improve the time delay.

dan

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On 30 Apr 2003 daniel lance herrick ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> Recently, for some other reason, I had a system
> manager looking at my .pinerc and he added a
> portnumber to the inbox-path configuration:
>
> inbox-path={rfexc1.psc.bellhow.com:143}
>
> and that delay disappeared.

This is my #1 tip in the Speeding Up Pine section of my Power
Pine page, which is here:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#speed>

If this doesn't speed up Pine for you, maybe one of the 30 pine
speed tips that I list will!

Hope this helps,
Nancy

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, daniel lance herrick wrote:

> Finding out what port on the server answers and putting its number in
> the configuration might improve the time delay.

A side effect of putting the port number in the server spec is that Pine
won't try preathenticated IMAP via rsh or ssh.

Switching off preauthentication is what you really want to achieve to
stop the long delay at startup. So do it the right way: Set
rsh-open-timeout and ssh-open-timeout to 0.

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Mats,

I did as the help screen instructed and got the error message: SMTP
authentication not available.

Guess I can't do what I wanted to do!

Thanks for the information.

Bruce

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote:

> On Apr 29, 2003, 12:10 (+0200) Bruce Cohen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Can someone tell me why I can't send from PC-Pine (4.55) from my main
> > account when connected to the internet via a dial-up connection other than
> > that provided by that accounts provider? Pine logs on to the pop3 server
> > fine and retrieves all mail from that account (with password entry) when
> > dialing up via my alternate providers, but if I try to send I get a
> > recipient address rejected message.
> >
> > This never was a problem when I telnetted to my former unix shell at the
> > provider's office and unix pine 4.33 - even if I dialed up on a third
> > party's account.
> >
> > I would like to still have the flexibility of sending from my main account
> > no matter how I dial in - is there an additional configuration option that
> > will enable me to satisfy whatever security requirements are involved?
>
> Normally, SMTP servers are closed for relaying from remote users.
> Sometimes relaying is offered through SMTP AUTH. Go to Setup, Config.
> Select the "smtp-server" setting and press "?" to read how to set SMTP
> AUTH.
>
>
>
> Mats
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Hi all,

Which is the option to print from PINE to a printer directly.
I saw the options LP in config options, but not is possible to print, send
me a message in relationship with ANSI.

Thanks in advance.

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, daniel lance herrick wrote:
>
> > Finding out what port on the server answers and putting its number in
> > the configuration might improve the time delay.
>
> A side effect of putting the port number in the server spec is that Pine
> won't try preathenticated IMAP via rsh or ssh.
>
> Switching off preauthentication is what you really want to achieve to
> stop the long delay at startup. So do it the right way: Set
> rsh-open-timeout and ssh-open-timeout to 0.
>
> --
> Gopi Sundaram
> http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/
>

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PC-Pine does not update the file date/time stamp sometimes when I save a
message in a mail folder. I noticed this was the case with 4.44 and it
still is happening with 4.55. It happens on both Win NT 4 and 2K. I have
yet to figure out what the conditions are when it does not update the
date/time.

Any ideas as to why Pine is not updating the date and time? Is it Pine or
Windows that should be updating this when a file is changed?

Thanks.

- Pete

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