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Hello,
I am trying to filter a message based on an e-mail string in the mail body,
that of my institute (technion.ac.il). It seems that all messages are
flagged,
and I am suspecting that Alltext scans ALL the headers, including those
that are not 'visible' such as 'Delivered-To'. Is this so ?
In this case, is there a way to go around it ?
[I get a lot of mail from a distribution mailing list of Wolfram with
passwords for Mathematica, but only interested in
such mail that is sent to my institute users, the rest, I want to
delete/flag]

Thanks,

Moshe Barak - Head User Support Group Taub Computer Center
Phone: (972 4 829)3689

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http://www.enzotech.net/pine.html

Has a couple things beyond the 4.44 patch had.. Message-id changed a bit, and
instead of just fixing the Sender/X-Sender headers, it also allows for you to
change them now.

It's still a trivial patch.. One recommendation, on the message-id hack, we
change the hostname of the box (This breaks RFC compliance I believe). You may
want to set it to your own from (somehost.domain.com) to something real. Our
reasoning behind this was, even when using roles and other accounts, it still
revealed your boxes primary domain. (Not much you can do about your path
headers of course, but in our situation.. we accomplished what we wanted

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Sorry for the double post, I'm not sure why exactly it did that.. Message only
went out once from this end, according to sendmail. Though, I notice two
X-Sender's listed there.. that's odd.. Never seen that either on any other
lists.. Oh well, it's Monday. =)

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From: David Sudjiman <[email protected]>
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, netmask wrote:
I did ./build lrh NOSSL but here I got the error

osdep.c:66:31: security/pam_appl.h: No such file or directory
osdep.c:82: warning: `struct pam_response' declared inside parameter list
osdep.c:82: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
which is probably not what you want
osdep.c:82: warning: `struct pam_message' declared inside parameter list
osdep.c: In function `checkpw_conv':
osdep.c:86: sizeof applied to an incomplete type
osdep.c:87: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:88: `PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_ON' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:88: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
osdep.c:88: for each function it appears in.)
osdep.c:89: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
osdep.c:89: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:89: `PAM_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:90: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
osdep.c:90: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:92: `PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_OFF' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:93: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
osdep.c:93: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:94: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
osdep.c:94: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:96: `PAM_TEXT_INFO' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:97: `PAM_ERROR_MSG' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:98: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
osdep.c:98: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:99: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
osdep.c:99: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
osdep.c:103: `PAM_CONV_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c: In function `checkpw':
osdep.c:117: `pam_handle_t' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:117: `hdl' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:118: storage size of `conv' isn't known
osdep.c:125: `PAM_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:126: `PAM_RHOST' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:129: `PAM_ESTABLISH_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:131: `PAM_DELETE_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
osdep.c:132: `PAM_AUTH_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** [lnp] Error 2
make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
make: *** [lrh] Error 2

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thx
dave

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give 'em a date, but never give 'em both at once.
-- Jane Bryant Quinn

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Hi,

> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, netmask wrote:
> I did ./build lrh NOSSL but here I got the error

Shouldn't it be....

/build NOSSL lrh

Ed

>
> osdep.c:66:31: security/pam_appl.h: No such file or directory
> osdep.c:82: warning: `struct pam_response' declared inside parameter list
> osdep.c:82: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
> which is probably not what you want
> osdep.c:82: warning: `struct pam_message' declared inside parameter list
> osdep.c: In function `checkpw_conv':
> osdep.c:86: sizeof applied to an incomplete type
> osdep.c:87: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:88: `PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_ON' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:88: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> osdep.c:88: for each function it appears in.)
> osdep.c:89: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
> osdep.c:89: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:89: `PAM_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:90: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
> osdep.c:90: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:92: `PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_OFF' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:93: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
> osdep.c:93: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:94: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
> osdep.c:94: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:96: `PAM_TEXT_INFO' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:97: `PAM_ERROR_MSG' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:98: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
> osdep.c:98: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:99: invalid use of undefined type `struct pam_response'
> osdep.c:99: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
> osdep.c:103: `PAM_CONV_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c: In function `checkpw':
> osdep.c:117: `pam_handle_t' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:117: `hdl' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:118: storage size of `conv' isn't known
> osdep.c:125: `PAM_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:126: `PAM_RHOST' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:129: `PAM_ESTABLISH_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:131: `PAM_DELETE_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
> osdep.c:132: `PAM_AUTH_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1
> make[2]: *** [lnp] Error 2
> make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
> make: *** [lrh] Error 2
>
> --
> thx
> .dave
>
> The rule on staying alive as a forecaster is to give 'em a number or
> give 'em a date, but never give 'em both at once.
> -- Jane Bryant Quinn
>
>

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Well,

I did
/build NOSSL lrh
/build lrh NOSSL
/build lrh SSLTYPE=none

of course every ./build I started it with ./build clean

but none of this respon succesfully

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>

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I don't know why am I sending message twice from my pine444?

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> Shouldn't it be....
>
> ./build NOSSL lrh

Should be.. I don't think these errors are related to that patch though..

If you are building on a Redhat system:

/build NOSSL slx

worked for one of the systems I was compiling on.. (with and without that
patch)

The errors you are getting are from a different ball of wax =)

> > osdep.c:125: `PAM_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > osdep.c:126: `PAM_RHOST' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > osdep.c:129: `PAM_ESTABLISH_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > osdep.c:131: `PAM_DELETE_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > osdep.c:132: `PAM_AUTH_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1
> > make[2]: *** [lnp] Error 2
> > make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
> > make: *** [lrh] Error 2

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Not my error....but.....

BTW, I did compile on RH 7.3 with ./build NOSSL lrh and had no problems.....

Ed

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>
>
> > Shouldn't it be....
> >
> > ./build NOSSL lrh
>
> Should be.. I don't think these errors are related to that patch though..
>
> If you are building on a Redhat system:
>
> ./build NOSSL slx
>
> worked for one of the systems I was compiling on.. (with and without that
> patch)
>
> The errors you are getting are from a different ball of wax =)
>
>
>
> > > osdep.c:125: `PAM_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > > osdep.c:126: `PAM_RHOST' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > > osdep.c:129: `PAM_ESTABLISH_CRED' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> > > osdep.c:131: `PAM_DELETE_CRED' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > > osdep.c:132: `PAM_AUTH_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function)
> > > make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1
> > > make[2]: *** [lnp] Error 2
> > > make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
> > > make: *** [lrh] Error 2
>

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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Erik Parker wrote:
> ./build NOSSL slx
>

Still error...

cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o word.o word.c
ar ru libpico.a attach.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o
display.o file.o fileio.o line.o pico_os.o pico.o random.o
region.o search.o window.o word.o
ranlib libpico.a
cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE main.o libpico.a
-lncurses -o pico
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [pico] Error 1

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Do you have ncurses and ncurses-devel installed on your system?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of David Sudjiman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 14:47
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: RE: Pine 4.50 Privacy Patch
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Erik Parker wrote:
> > ./build NOSSL slx
> >
>
> Still error...
>
> cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -c -o word.o word.c
> ar ru libpico.a attach.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o
> display.o file.o fileio.o line.o pico_os.o pico.o random.o
> region.o search.o window.o word.o
> ranlib libpico.a
> cc -g -DDEBUG -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE main.o libpico.a
> -lncurses -o pico
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [pico] Error 1
>
>
> --
> thx
> .dave
>
> The rule on staying alive as a forecaster is to give 'em a number or
> give 'em a date, but never give 'em both at once.
> -- Jane Bryant Quinn
>
>

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Apologize for my dumb-persistent question...

this is my first time using and compiling pine in my linux box, so please
kindly guide me ;-)

Yes... I didn't install ncurses-devel.. it work... now the build is
completed.

What next? I can't do make or make install just like other compiling
process.. well, I just go straight to ./pinesource/bin/pine to run the
pine.. can I make it installed insidy my box? should I only move the pine
to /usr/local/bin or somewhere? or should I use the the another trick

thx
dave

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Dave,

> Yes... I didn't install ncurses-devel.. it work... now the build is
> completed.

Good....

> What next? I can't do make or make install just like other compiling
> process.. well, I just go straight to ./pinesource/bin/pine to run the
> pine.. can I make it installed insidy my box? should I only move the pine
> to /usr/local/bin or somewhere? or should I use the the another trick

Yes, simply moving what is in the bin directory to /usr/local/bin is normally
sufficient. The only "trouble" you may run into is if your linux distribution
has installed a version of pine and /usr/bin is in your PATH variable before
/usr/local/bin.

Regards,
Ed

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Ok.. it's done now.. thanks alot Ed Greshko!

1. I found several program in ./pinesource/bin/ directory, should I move
all of them as well?
2. I figure out that my pine giving the instruction that semo folder is
vulnerable and need to be changed to 1777.. is that mean chmod 1777 for my
~/mail folder. I did chmod -R 1700 ./mail but those information still
there.

thx
dave

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Dave,

> 1. I found several program in ./pinesource/bin/ directory, should I move
> all of them as well?

If you are only going to use pine....then it is not necessary. If you are not
sure then it doesn't hurt to move them all. Some folks like to run pico
(editor) in stand-alone mode. The imapd, ipop2d, ipop3d are daemons you could
run to provide IMAP and POP2/3 service.

> 2. I figure out that my pine giving the instruction that semo folder is
> vulnerable and need to be changed to 1777.. is that mean chmod 1777 for my
> ~/mail folder. I did chmod -R 1700 ./mail but those information still
> there.

No, it refers to the directory where the MTA (sendmail or other program) puts
the users mailboxes. This is (if I recall) /var/mail.

Ed

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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Ed Greshko wrote:

> If you are only going to use pine....then it is not necessary. If you are not
> sure then it doesn't hurt to move them all. Some folks like to run pico
> (editor) in stand-alone mode. The imapd, ipop2d, ipop3d are daemons you could
> run to provide IMAP and POP2/3 service.

OK, Just the pine

> No, it refers to the directory where the MTA (sendmail or other program) puts
> the users mailboxes. This is (if I recall) /var/mail.

So.. I did chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail ?

The next thing.. I was upgrading this pine444 to pine 450 to get my SENDER
or X-SENDER hidden. How can I do that in pine 450. I get the
pine4.50-privacy.patch. What should I do?

thx
dave

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On 3 Dec 2002 Ed Greshko ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> > 1. I found several program in ./pinesource/bin/ directory, should I move
> > all of them as well?
>
> If you are only going to use pine....then it is not necessary. If you are not
> sure then it doesn't hurt to move them all. Some folks like to run pico
> (editor) in stand-alone mode. The imapd, ipop2d, ipop3d are daemons you could
> run to provide IMAP and POP2/3 service.

I'd also move mailutil, dmail, tmail, rpload, and rpdump because
these might be useful to you if you use IMAP a lot.

Also, don't forget to move all the relevant man pages to the
appropriate man directory, e.g.:

/usr/local/share/man/man1

HTH,
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Moshe Barak wrote:

> I am trying to filter a message based on an e-mail string in the mail
> body,

Is is really the body of the message? Or is it in a header?

> I am suspecting that Alltext scans ALL the headers, including those
> that are not 'visible' such as 'Delivered-To'. Is this so ?

Yes.

If you truly want to filter on text in the body of the message, then
Pine 4.50 includes a BodyText pattern that you can use.

If you want to filter on some specific header or bunch of headers, set
up filters for each possible header. Add the ones that don't appear in
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Hi,

Isn't there any way to display the number of messages (new and read) in
the folder list?. I've searched the archive, but found only the "check all
incoming folders" patch, but I'd like to know if some one knows of a patch
not listed in the unofficial patches page to do this useful (IMO) funcion.

Regards.

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I've lost the postpone (^O) command when I switched to OS X. I hit the key
combination, and nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions ... sorry
if it's been covered before. I did a search of the archive for the past
couple of months and didn't see anything.

Thanks,
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gary Whitehouse wrote:

> I've lost the postpone (^O) command when I switched to OS X. I hit the
> key combination, and nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions

Your terminal could be trapping that key combo. Try "ESC ESC O" instead.
This works for any Ctrl-Key combination.

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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> Try "ESC ESC <key>" instead. This works for any Ctrl-Key combination.

Heh. Thanks!

-Kenny

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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gary Whitehouse wrote:

> I've lost the postpone (^O) command when I switched to OS X.

Which version of Pine (and where'd you get it), and which version of OS X?
Postpone works for me in 10.2.2 with pine 4.50 from
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gary Whitehouse wrote:
>
>> I've lost the postpone (^O) command when I switched to OS X. I hit the
>> key combination, and nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions
>
>Your terminal could be trapping that key combo. Try "ESC ESC O" instead.
>This works for any Ctrl-Key combination.

Also, try typing:

stty everything

at a shell prompt. Is something (discard perhaps?) set to be ^O?

I dunno which version of OSX you're using, but this was a problem at
one point in the past I remember, and I had to manually set the
offending command (or whatever the proper term is) in stty to
something else.

For reasons I don't understand, my discard _is_ set to ^O but it hasn't
been a problem for me in a long time.

so anyway -- check out these settings, and you may be able to put a
setting in your .cshrc file to set the offending command to something
else, which will hopefully solve the problem. Check the manpage for
stty also.

If you need more help, ask, though as you can tell from this reply, I'm
not quite sure what's going on, I just know how to work around it.

Ramble:
BTW, while we're already talking about Mac OS X.. I know there is a
PC-pine, I don't know if it is simply the existing text-only pine running on
windows or whatever, or if it's a slightly GUI-fied pine.

Anyway.. a slightly GUI-fied pine would be my perfect email program. By
slightly GUI-fied, I mean that the only thing I really find lacking in
pine is the comparatively rare (but ongoing) wanting to open messages into
separate windows. Especially for long mailing lists or something, sometimes
I want to read part of it now, leave it open, go back to other things, and
come back to where I was later.

GNUMail so far comes closest to the perfect GUI mail program (it's got
a couple of problems though I was talking with one of the developers a
while back and several of them will be fixed in the next version)...
it's basically "really text based", pretty fast..

Anyway I guess that's a ramble, but I was wondering if anyone had
tried something like this -- I do know about XPine, but I was never able
to get it compiled when I tried way way back. Basically work exactly
as pine is now, optionally (maybe command return vs return) open messages
in new windows, have menu items for commands _as well as_ the existing
commands..

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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Gary Whitehouse wrote:
>
> > I've lost the postpone (^O) command when I switched to OS X. I hit the
> > key combination, and nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions
>
> Your terminal could be trapping that key combo. Try "ESC ESC O" instead.
> This works for any Ctrl-Key combination.

Thanks, that works. I'm in 4.44 -- I believe my ISP recently upgraded to
that when it installed new servers. -- Gary
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> For reasons I don't understand, my discard _is_ set to ^O

*History*, son, history! "Ctrl-O" for "flusho"/discard has been around since
K&R wrote the 2nd version of the UNIX tty line discipline; what I don't
understand is how it's being *trapped* by that LD, as I'd assume that Pine
takes it's controlling TTY out of "cooked" mode.

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Hi again...

I applied the maildir-patch to Pine 4.50, and it's working great!, but I
wonder if it's possible to create "folders" with the structure of
maildirs, so procmail could deliver to those "folders" and then Pine could
use them as incoming-folders, instead of a normal mbox file.

Is this possible?, and if so, how could it be accomplished?. Thanks in
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

>Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 13:50:01 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kenneth Crudup <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Postpone command in Mac OS X
>
>
>On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
>> For reasons I don't understand, my discard _is_ set to ^O
>
>*History*, son, history! "Ctrl-O" for "flusho"/discard has been around since
>K&R wrote the 2nd version of the UNIX tty line discipline; what I don't
>understand is how it's being *trapped* by that LD, as I'd assume that Pine
>takes it's controlling TTY out of "cooked" mode.

I don't know what you mean by LD here.

I didn't explain myself well enough -- what I meant was that I didn't
understand why it was set to ^O _and_ it wasn't interfering with my use of
pine, but it did in the (long) past.. I think around 10.0 or 10.1 timeframe.

Maybe the Terminal application somehow fixed it.. As you can tell, I just type
at the terminal, I don't really understand how all of the low level UNIX stuff
works.. When someone explained how 'screen' works in high level terms to me a
while ago (it makes pseudo-terminals, and a bunch of other stuff), it was
fascinating.

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I presume everyone else is getting his vacation replies? I guess it's smart
enough not to reply to the mailing list.

Could an admin remove him so we don't keep getting these?

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From: Steve Reitsma <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Postpone command in Mac OS X

I will be off until Dec 11th. I will be checking email but not consistently
If you need something done urgently please email Bob.

Thanks
Steve.

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Well, I just moved to pine 450 and expect something that it would help my
sorrow to unreveal my SENDER or X-SENDER

thx
dave

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We've done so much, for so long, with so little,
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, David Sudjiman wrote:

>Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:26:44 +0700 (WIT)
>From: David Sudjiman <[email protected]>
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>Subject: Installing Pine 4.50
>
>Apologize for my dumb-persistent question...
>
>this is my first time using and compiling pine in my linux box, so please
>kindly guide me ;-)
>
>Yes... I didn't install ncurses-devel.. it work... now the build is
>completed.
>
>What next? I can't do make or make install just like other compiling
>process.. well, I just go straight to ./pinesource/bin/pine to run the
>pine.. can I make it installed insidy my box? should I only move the pine
>to /usr/local/bin or somewhere? or should I use the the another trick

ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/pine-4.50-1

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Hello,

In upgrading to 4.50, I noticed a new feature in Pine which does not
appear to be documented in the Release Chronology and Version Changes or
the FAQ and which appears to work with a clean (or non-existent)
pine.conf/.pinerc system file, but goes away with an older file. I've
tried diff'ing the files, and going through each configuration setting by
hand in the Config menu, yet I have not seen something that looks like
this anywhere. Lacking a name, here's a description of that feature:

When replying to a message with original message included, the original
behavior of Pine was to not insert spaces at the top of the message body.
By habit, over the years, I (and all of my users, I'm certain) learned to
enter a few spaces and move back up to the top of the message to begin the
reply. Now, those two spaces are included for me. What is this feature
called, and how does one enable/disable it?

Thanks in advance,

--Sean Goodman
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Sean M. Goodman wrote:
>When replying to a message with original message included, the original
>behavior of Pine was to not insert spaces at the top of the message body.
>By habit, over the years, I (and all of my users, I'm certain) learned to
>enter a few spaces and move back up to the top of the message to begin the
>reply. Now, those two spaces are included for me. What is this feature
>called, and how does one enable/disable it?

Do you mean you are replying _above_ the original message?

That is a really irksome habit some people have (unfortunately it seems to
largely be propogated by some GUI mail programs).

Removing unnecessary text from the reply, and replying underneath each
specific point makes a far better reading experience for the
recipients.

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

[ Top-posting ]

> That is a really irksome habit some people have (unfortunately it seems to
> largely be propogated by some GUI mail programs).

What He Said!

-Kenny

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Sean M. Goodman wrote:

> When replying to a message with original message included, the original
> behavior of Pine was to not insert spaces at the top of the message body.
> By habit, over the years, I (and all of my users, I'm certain) learned to
> enter a few spaces and move back up to the top of the message to begin the
> reply. Now, those two spaces are included for me. What is this feature
> called, and how does one enable/disable it?

I just tried that on a few clean Pine 4.50 and there is no such
'feature' I can think of. It of course would be strange - everytime time
one replies would then have to go to the top of the posting and delete
two lines, then move down to reply?

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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> I applied the maildir-patch to Pine 4.50, and it's working great!, but =
I
> wonder if it's possible to create "folders" with the structure of
> maildirs, so procmail could deliver to those "folders" and then Pine co=
uld
> use them as incoming-folders, instead of a normal mbox file.
>
> Is this possible?, and if so, how could it be accomplished?. Thanks in
> advance.

Forget it. The Pine developers are not interested in modern mail storage=
=20
formats.

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Kevin DeGraaf wrote:
> > I applied the maildir-patch to Pine 4.50, and it's working great!, but I
> > wonder if it's possible to create "folders" with the structure of
> > maildirs, so procmail could deliver to those "folders" and then Pine could
> > use them as incoming-folders, instead of a normal mbox file.
> > Is this possible?, and if so, how could it be accomplished?. Thanks in
> > advance.
> Forget it. The Pine developers are not interested in modern mail storage
> formats.

But that's too bad! :-(

Well, now it's time to configure the full courier-imap suite and start
using webmail+X-based mail client (Kmail -faster- or Evolution)... It'd be
easier if Pine supported maildir (wich is better than mbox, IMHO).

Thank you.

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Kevin DeGraaf wrote:

> The Pine developers are not interested in modern mail storage formats.

I wonder what the statute of limitations is on mailbox formats, before
they become "legacy formats". That's the justification for supporting
MH, which is far worse than maildirs in my opinion.

> --
> Kevin DeGraaf

Your sigdashes are wrong. The correct sequence is "-- " on a line by
itself. Please note the space at the end. You can let Pine add that line
automatically by selecting the enable-sigdashes option in (M)ain (S)etup
(C)onfig

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On Dec 4, 2002 at 20:24, Riemer Palstra wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Sean M. Goodman wrote:
>> When replying to a message with original message included, the original
>> behavior of Pine was to not insert spaces at the top of the message body.
[snip]
>> reply. Now, those two spaces are included for me. What is this feature

>I just tried that on a few clean Pine 4.50 and there is no such
>'feature' I can think of. It of course would be strange - everytime time

Perhaps it is a blank signature file? I think there was an option that
lets pine insert the signature... ah, here it is: signature-at-bottom.
It defaults to off, i.e. signature at top.

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> Your sigdashes are wrong. The correct sequence is "-- " on a line by
> itself. Please note the space at the end. You can let Pine add that lin=
e
> automatically by selecting the enable-sigdashes option in (M)ain (S)etu=
p
> (C)onfig

Which RFC says that you must have a space after your sigdashes, or that y=
ou=20
must use exactly two sigdashes, or that you must use dashes at all?

--=20
Kevin DeGraaf

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Kevin DeGraaf wrote:

> Which RFC says that you must have a space after your sigdashes, or that you
> must use exactly two sigdashes, or that you must use dashes at all?

RFC 2646 if I'm not mistaken.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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The Mac OS X pine port uses the BSD-ish style of terminal control. There
is a routine called Raw in .../pico/osdep/raw.brk that is used for this.
It goes into cbreak mode and sets the flusho character to -1, among other
things. Here's the relevant part.

/*----- Go into raw mode (cbreak actually) ----*/
if(ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCGETP, &_original_tty) < 0)
return(-1);

(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCGETP, &_raw_tty);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCGETC, &_original_tchars);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCGETC, &_raw_tchars);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCGLTC, &_original_ltchars);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCGLTC, &_raw_ltchars);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCLGET, &_original_lmode);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCLGET, &_raw_lmode);

_raw_tty.sg_flags &= ~(ECHO); /* echo off */
_raw_tty.sg_flags |= CBREAK; /* raw on */
_raw_tty.sg_flags &= ~CRMOD; /* Turn off CR -> LF mapping */

_raw_tchars.t_intrc = -1; /* Turn off ^C and ^D */
_raw_tchars.t_eofc = -1;

_raw_ltchars.t_lnextc = -1; /* Turn off ^V so we can use it */
_raw_ltchars.t_dsuspc = -1; /* Turn off ^Y so we can use it */
_raw_ltchars.t_suspc = -1; /* Turn off ^Z; we just read 'em */
_raw_ltchars.t_werasc = -1; /* Turn off ^w word erase */
_raw_ltchars.t_rprntc = -1; /* Turn off ^R reprint line */
_raw_ltchars.t_flushc = -1; /* Turn off ^O output flush */

(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCSETP, &_raw_tty);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCSLTC, &_raw_ltchars);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCSETC, &_raw_tchars);
(void)ioctl(STDIN_FD, TIOCLSET, &_raw_lmode);

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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

>
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
> > For reasons I don't understand, my discard _is_ set to ^O
>
> *History*, son, history! "Ctrl-O" for "flusho"/discard has been around since
> K&R wrote the 2nd version of the UNIX tty line discipline; what I don't
> understand is how it's being *trapped* by that LD, as I'd assume that Pine
> takes it's controlling TTY out of "cooked" mode.
>
> -Kenny

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We're going to cave in and add a feature to suppress those in 4.51.

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, David Sudjiman wrote:

> Well, I just moved to pine 450 and expect something that it would help my
> sorrow to unreveal my SENDER or X-SENDER

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From: Lilla <[email protected]>
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Subject: Show the CNAME instead of the A-record for my imap-server
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Hi,

Is there a way to let Pine _not_ to just show the name of the CNAME of
my imap-server when logging in? I have this in the .pinerc:

inbox-path={imap.mydomain.com/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=${USER}}INBOX
folder-collections=imap \
{imap.mydomain.com/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=${USER}}INBOX.[]

Where "imap.mydomain.com" is a CNAME for "somecomputer.mydomain.com".
The irritating thing is that Pine shows when started:

HOST: somecomputer.mydomain.com USER: myuser ENTER PASSWORD:

instead of the prefered and not confusing (for my users):

HOST: imap.mydomain.com USER: myuser ENTER PASSWORD:

Is it possible to do that or are there a patch for it?

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Hi,

one everlasting bug in PC-Pine:

When you click on a link that contains quote-worthy characters, such as
semicolon, ampersand or question mark, PC-Pine v4.50 (like its anchessors)
uses single-quotes, which are still not understood by Windows programs, at
least not by those I'm using, such as Mozilla v1.1.

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I really need to get off this list. Having to read "the little hooker @
the old men now" is really offensive. This being the english translation
of "lilla horan @ gubbarna nu" from swedish.

>
>Subject: Show the CNAME instead of the A-record for my imap-server
> From: Lilla <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:38:54 +0100
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>
>Hi,
>
>Is there a way to let Pine _not_ to just show the name of the CNAME of
>my imap-server when logging in? I have this in the .pinerc:
>
> inbox-path={imap.mydomain.com/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=${USER}}INBOX
> folder-collections=imap \
>{imap.mydomain.com/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=${USER}}INBOX.[]
>
>Where "imap.mydomain.com" is a CNAME for "somecomputer.mydomain.com".
>The irritating thing is that Pine shows when started:
>
> HOST: somecomputer.mydomain.com USER: myuser ENTER PASSWORD:
>
>instead of the prefered and not confusing (for my users):
>
> HOST: imap.mydomain.com USER: myuser ENTER PASSWORD:
>
>Is it possible to do that or are there a patch for it?
>
>--
>Cheers,
>Lilla
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> I really need to get off this list. Having to read "the little hooker @
> the old men now" is really offensive. This being the english translation
> of "lilla horan @ gubbarna nu" from swedish.

Sorry, no desire here to be offensive... it was just a little joke... I
have changed my name now so it won't offend you in the future...
actually my name _is_ "Lilla". Please no more replies to this stupid thing.

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Hi,

I have set the "iso-8859-2" character set and also the "utf-8" display
filter:

_CHARSET(UTF-8)_ /bin/iconv -f UTF-8 -t 8859-2

But even that the pine displays:

[ The following text is in the "utf-8" character set. ]
[ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-2" character set. ]
[ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ]

Is it a way to suppress the pine displaying such comments if the
correct filter is found and used?

Regards,
Murphy

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This seems new to 4.50 though I'm not positive.

I've seen this a few times..

I'm reading a thread thread, and deleting messages as I read them..
I notice that a new message comes in in this thread.. so I delete the
current message...

But a DIFFERENT message is being shown to me..

I go back to the index, and see the new message sorted properly.

So why did it skip that new message in thread when I hit delete? This wasn't
some really quick timing thing, there was a while between when the new message
alert came in and I tried to view the next message (by deleting the current
message).

While I'm at it -- is there any chance of a background sort upon initial
running of pine? I'm impatient, but I love thread sorts. If I could just
have it open sorted by arrival, but it would sort by thread while I was
reading messages.. that'd be cool.

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Scot Elliott wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Just installed Pine 4.50. Love the threading support - just one question
> re. sorting though. I usually sort in "Arrival" order so that new mail
> is always at the bottom of my INBOX. Thread mode only lets you sort in
> "Sent" order. Are there plans to allow use of the arrival date in thread
> mode?

I believe that the arrival date of the root message is used to sort the
different threads.

> Also - if someone replies to an old thread, the thread doesn't reappear at
> the bottom of the sorted list as I'd expect. Is it possible to sort
> threads based on the latest date of a message in the thread rather than
> the earlierst?

I don't think this is possible, but I agree that a variation of this idea
would certainly make thread sort a lot more useful. Instead of basing it
on the latest date, maybe the threads with unread messages or important
messages should be clumped together at the bottom. Right now, I have to
constantly go to the start of the index and hit "tab" to find the new
messages.

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Scot Elliott wrote:

> Also - if someone replies to an old thread, the thread doesn't reappear at
> the bottom of the sorted list as I'd expect. Is it possible to sort
> threads based on the latest date of a message in the thread rather than
> the earlierst?

Adding to what I wrote earlier -- if you are willing to use pine4.44 with
Eduardo's fancy threading patch, you can have what you described. Simply
turn on the threading (k), and then sort by arrival ($) (a). That appears
to sort the threads based on the latest date of a message in the thread.

Tony

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I think the attached patch should fix this. Thanks!

Steve
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Occasionally, I send a message by email (no newsgroup) that won't
FCC into the proper folder in PINE 4.50. When the message is sent,
but fails to FCC to the correct folder, the first following line
is flashed on the screen. When I view the file in the postponed
folder (saved it in postponed folder after it was sent), the second
following line is flashed on the screen. When I edit the folder
and I remove the field "Newsgroup:" (nothing after the ":"), as
in the the third following line, the second following line doesn't
occur during folder message viewing.

1- [Message sent and copied to .]
2- [Unverified Newsgroup header -- Message MAY or MAY NOT have
been posted]
3- Newsgroups:

This same bug has occurred while posting a message to a newsgroup,
although, I don't have any results from a previous error. I thought
it was a fluke -- just a system anomaly. I believe it started when
I upgraded to PINE 4.50.

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Hi,

How to set alert(beep sound or any) in PINE for every new mail,
while logged in as a user from a PC thro' TELNET.

Pls reply me if there's any specific command or configuration changes
inorder to activate above mentioned feature.

with regards,
kuppu

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Hello,

I am not sure if there are ways to block mail from specified addresses in
PINE, but I know folders can be set up for incoming mail with specified
senders. Is there a way I can set up a folder which catches mail from
multiple e-mail addresses that I specify?

Jenny, who is trying to find a way around the average 60 pesky spam
e-mails a day!

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On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, SoloCDM wrote:

> Occasionally, I send a message by email (no newsgroup) that won't
> FCC into the proper folder in PINE 4.50. When the message is sent,

What folder is it supposed to go to? What is the value of your
configuration variable "fcc-name-rule" and other relevant config?

> but fails to FCC to the correct folder, the first following line
> is flashed on the screen. When I view the file in the postponed
> folder (saved it in postponed folder after it was sent), the second
> following line is flashed on the screen. When I edit the folder
> and I remove the field "Newsgroup:" (nothing after the ":"), as
> in the the third following line, the second following line doesn't
> occur during folder message viewing.
>
> 1- [Message sent and copied to .]

This seems like it is trying to Fcc to nothing. The . is just the period
at the end of the sentence. It shouldn't happen.

> 2- [Unverified Newsgroup header -- Message MAY or MAY NOT have
> been posted]

If the message-id of the message begins with the characters "<Pine.", then
this message should not happen. So I expect you might be using an altered
pine. If so, you have to tell us! Makes it easier to debug.

--
Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jenny Payne wrote:
>I am not sure if there are ways to block mail from specified addresses in
>PINE, but I know folders can be set up for incoming mail with specified
>senders. Is there a way I can set up a folder which catches mail from
>multiple e-mail addresses that I specify?

Set up a SetScores rule that will set the score to mail from those
recipients to a certain value (e.g. -100).

Then set up a Filter rule that moves all mail with that score to
a certain folder.

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On Dec 5, 2002, 00:18 (+0100) Riemer Palstra <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Which RFC says that you must have a space after your sigdashes, or that=
you
> > must use exactly two sigdashes, or that you must use dashes at all?
>
> RFC 2646 if I'm not mistaken.

You probably are. The only time it mentions the "sigdashes" it says:

"There is a convention in Usenet news of using "-- " as the separator
line between the body and the signature of a message. When
generating a Format=3DFlowed message containing a Usenet-style
separator before the signature, the separator line is sent as-is."

(From p. 7 in RFC 2646)

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From: Jenny Payne <[email protected]>
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> On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jenny Payne wrote:
> >I am not sure if there are ways to block mail from specified addresses in
> >PINE, but I know folders can be set up for incoming mail with specified
> >senders. Is there a way I can set up a folder which catches mail from
> >multiple e-mail addresses that I specify?

> Set up a SetScores rule that will set the score to mail from those
> recipients to a certain value (e.g. -100).
> Then set up a Filter rule that moves all mail with that score to
> a certain folder.

Interesting... I've never looked at the SetScores rule options...
Is it possible to delete junk mail by setting it up like this?:

* SetScore
* Include the junk e-mail address in the FROM PATTERN field
* Check "YES" next to "message is deleted"?

This seems like a more direct route if it would work. I'm a graphic
designer, not a programmer... so all of this is new to me!
Jenny

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