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> > I find myself in a situation where I would like to have several differe=
nt
> > SMTP servers used depending upon the role patterns being matched. For
> > example, if the message being sent matches "From: [email protected]" I want i=
t
> > to use the "smtp.bar.com/user=3Dfoo" smtp server, but if it matches "Fr=
om:
> > [email protected]" then it happens to use "smtp.someplace.else.com/user=3Dme"=
=2E
>
> I would also like this, it=B4s because of this I digged through my
> pine-archive and found your mail from may. =3D)
>
> Did you or anyone else find a solution to this problem? If so, care to
> share it?

We were just looking into this at the office today.. It's also an option w=
e'd
like to see integrated. Probably wouldn't be that hard to whip up a patch
for.. Maybe I'll look into doing just that.

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Subject: Pine 4.44 and problem wit an attachments
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Hi,

I got the e-mail from "X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)"
which has a two attachments, but unfortunatelly, the Pine doesn't
recognize these attachments correctly.

Instead having these attachment in the attachment view, the Pine shows
them as a normal e-mail content.

Here is a part of header and the e-mail:

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
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To: xxxxx
Subject: RE: Demande de tarifs
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(cut)
begin 600 res_fr.pdf
M)5!$1BTQ+C,-)>+CS],-"C8@,"!O8FH-/#P@#2],:6YE87)I>F5D(#$@#2]/
M(#@@#2]((%L@,3(S,R`R,S,@72`-+TP@,3(Q,34S(`TO12`Q,3DT-S(@#2].
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(cut)

When I redirected this email from an Unix shell to the Netscape mail
Inbox, then I could save correctly the attachments. But from Pine not.
:(

I can send the whole email if it will be necessery.

Regards,
Murphy

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From: Alessandro Selli <[email protected]>
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Il giorno Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Murphy cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: Murphy <[email protected]>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
|Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:09:39 +0200
|Subject: Pine 4.44 and problem wit an attachments
|
|Hi,
|
|I got the e-mail from "X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)"
|which has a two attachments, but unfortunatelly, the Pine doesn't
|recognize these attachments correctly.
|
|Instead having these attachment in the attachment view, the Pine shows
|them as a normal e-mail content.
|
|Here is a part of header and the e-mail:
|
|Return-Path: <[email protected]>
|Received: from hippopotamus.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26])
| by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA08308
| for <xxxx@xxxxxx>; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:39:26 +0200 (MET DST)
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| helo=3Dbe-exchange.netnet.be)
| by hippopotamus.sonytel.be with esmtp (Exim 4.04)
| id 17xMpq-0003fF-00
| for [email protected]; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:25:18 +0200
|Received: by be-exchange with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
| id <T8GS788Z>; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:29:57 +0200
|Message-ID: <054AA7AE9571D511B41400508B44CCAF34C51E@be-exchange>
|From: NETnet Support <[email protected]>
|To: xxxxx
|Subject: RE: Demande de tarifs
|Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:29:57 +0200
|X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm afraid this is what causes the problem. I first learned about this n=
ew
m$ "technology" when some people found themselves unable to open attachment=
s
found in messages composed with out-of-luck express. Some MUA can now hand=
le
this fortmat, some still have problems with it. I found many references to
"X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:", among them:

http://radawana.cg.tuwien.ac.at/mail-archives/lll/199910/msg00217.html

[...]

|Several Microsoft Windows email applications support the Transport Neutral
|Encapsulation Format (TNEF). This is a method for MAPI compliant
|mail programs to transfer data to each other across gateways. Generally, a
|mail agent will create a MIME multipart message containing the text
|body of the mail message, and a single attachment of type application/ms-t=
nef.
|This attachment at least follows the format of MIME messages, if
|not the intent. Usually, this bitstream contains no more information than =
is
|already contained in the headers and body of the message, but instead
|of attaching attachments to the email message as separate MIME attachments=
,
|they are included in the TNEF attachment. To handle this, I wrote
|a program tnef2txt which will dump the information in the TNEF bitstream, =
and
|also dump files to disk which are contained in the bitstream. Just
|run the program without arguments for usage information. You can call this
|program from a mailcap file with the following line:
|
|application/ms-tnef; tnef2txt %s; copiousoutput
|
|or, if you wish to save attachments to disk which are in the bitstream:
|
|application/ms-tnef; tnef2txt -s %s; copiousoutput
|
|
|
|
|Die Adresse ist:
|http://www.fiction.net/blong/programs/
|

On http://www.fiction.net/blong/programs/ you can find the programs:

* tnef2txt - A portable application/ms-tnef parser
* rtfreader - A portable application/ms-rtf parser

Sandro

--=20
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La guerra nutre se stessa

Livio, Ab urbe condita, XXXIV,9

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Alessandro Selli wrote:

>|X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(cut)
> I'm afraid this is what causes the problem. I first learned about this new
>m$ "technology" when some people found themselves unable to open attachments
>found in messages composed with out-of-luck express. Some MUA can now handle
>this fortmat, some still have problems with it. I found many references to
>"X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:", among them:

Thanks for the links with a programs which can extract the attachments
from the e-mail.

Regards,
Murphy

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From: Jesper Maartenson <[email protected]>
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Erik Parker wrote:

> We were just looking into this at the office today.. It's also an
> option we'd like to see integrated. Probably wouldn't be that hard to
> whip up a patch for.. Maybe I'll look into doing just that.

I=B4ve solved this now, using an utility called ssmtp ( can be downloaded=
=20
from ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/mail/mta/ssmtp-2.48.tar.gz ).=
=20

I=B4ve set up my .pinerc changing the sendmail-command to=20
sendmail-path=3D./sendmymail - sendmymail contains the following:

#!/usr/bin/procmail

:0
* ^From.*the role I want to use another smtp-server for
| incoming/ssmtp-2.48/ssmtp -t

:0
| /usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -t -oi

ssmtp uses by default /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf as it=B4s configuration-file,=
=20
this is however easily changed in the Makefile, and you can then have=20
different binaries of ssmtp which uses different configuration files, if=20
you want to have several different smtp-servers depending on role.

/j

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*** Erik Parker ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:> > > I find myself in a situation where I would like to have several
:> > > different SMTP servers used depending upon the role patterns
:> > > being matched. For example, if the message being sent matches
:> > > "From: [email protected]" I want it to use the "smtp.bar.com/user=3Dfoo"
:> > > smtp server, but if it matches "From: [email protected]" then it
:> > > happens to use "smtp.someplace.else.com/user=3Dme".
:> >
:> > I would also like this, it=B4s because of this I digged through my
:> > pine-archive and found your mail from may. =3D)
:> >
:> > Did you or anyone else find a solution to this problem? If so, care
:> > to share it?
:>
:> We were just looking into this at the office today.. It's also an
:> option we'd like to see integrated. Probably wouldn't be that hard to
:> whip up a patch for.. Maybe I'll look into doing just that.

Two remarks, one is that this functionality is coming in Pine4.50, the
other is that there is already a patch for it, which you can get in my web
page (address below). It's called "define your own rules...".

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*** [email protected] wrote today:

:) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
:) + If you cannot read this HUNGARIAN text, you probably got it by mistake. +
:) + Please do nothing. It very rarely happens twice inadvertently. Sorry. +
:) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

At least twice, when I've posted to this list, I've received this message.
Could the person sending me these messages, please fix the bug in the
script sending me these unsolicited messages? (will I get it for a third
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I have Pine 4.44 installed on a RedHat Linux machine. I want pine can read
both the Russian and English email messages. How should I do it?
-Thanks.
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:16:38 -0400
>From: Hong Tian <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>Subject: Russian font for pine
>
>I have Pine 4.44 installed on a RedHat Linux machine. I want pine can read
>both the Russian and English email messages. How should I do it?

Use "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font. Cyrillic fonts contain
standard ASCII for the lower 7 bits, so both English and russian
will display correctly.

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Could the maintainers of this mailing list, please unsubscribe
all users @hix.hu, so that postings to this list do not result in
users receiving these huge inappropriate spam autoresponder
emails in return.

I've sent an email to [email protected] as well requesting that they
fix their email system.

Thanks in advance.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 02:13:38 +0200
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ If you cannot read this HUNGARIAN text, you probably got it by mistake. +
+ Please do nothing. It very rarely happens twice inadvertently. Sorry. +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

======================================================
== ==
== HIX * Hollosi Information eXchange ==
== ==
======================================================
== 2001.12.27. ==
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Hi,
I am using Pine 4.05L. I got this error message when it tried to
expunge the deleted messages.
"Checkpoint File Failure: Bad Address"

As a result, I couldn't delete the messages.
May I know what does this mean? How can I fix it?

Thanx in advance for any pointers.

-Nina

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Mike,

Would you please let me know how to use "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font on
RedHat 7.3?

After using "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font, I will be able to read both
the Russian and English email messages. Can I also write email reply with
both the Russian and English?

Thanks for your help.
Hong

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:16:38 -0400
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>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
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> charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
>I have Pine 4.44 installed on a RedHat Linux machine. I want pine can read
>both the Russian and English email messages. How should I do it?

Use "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font. Cyrillic fonts contain
standard ASCII for the lower 7 bits, so both English and russian
will display correctly.

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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:56:43 -0400
>From: Hong Tian <[email protected]>
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>
>Mike,
>
>Would you please let me know how to use "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font on
>RedHat 7.3?
>
>After using "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font, I will be able to read both
>the Russian and English email messages. Can I also write email reply with
>both the Russian and English?

cd /lib/kbd/consolefonts
ls |less
(find the font you wish to try)
setfont <fontname>

There are various Cyrillic fonts there, however I can't recommend
one specifically as I'm an English only speaker. Play with the
different fonts until you find one that works well. In order wo
type both English and Russian, you'll have to configure your
keyboard for doing multiple languages.

Hope this helps,
TTYL

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Mike,

I did the followings and got the warnings from setfont command:

# cd /lib/kbd/consolefonts
# ls |less -> I pick a fontname
# setfont Cyr_a8x8.psf.gz
Warning: this is a shell wrapper; consider using consolechars(8)
Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
get_console_fl: Invalid argument
# setfont Cyr_a8x8.psf
Warning: this is a shell wrapper; consider using consolechars(8)
Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
get_console_fl: Invalid argument
# setfont Cyr_a8x8
Warning: this is a shell wrapper; consider using consolechars(8)
Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
get_console_fl: Invalid argument

Thanks,
Hong

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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:56:43 -0400
>From: Hong Tian <[email protected]>
>To: 'Mike A. Harris' <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>Subject: RE: Russian font for pine
>
>Mike,
>
>Would you please let me know how to use "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font on
>RedHat 7.3?
>
>After using "setfont" to use a Cyrillic font, I will be able to read both
>the Russian and English email messages. Can I also write email reply with
>both the Russian and English?

cd /lib/kbd/consolefonts
ls |less
(find the font you wish to try)
setfont <fontname>

There are various Cyrillic fonts there, however I can't recommend
one specifically as I'm an English only speaker. Play with the
different fonts until you find one that works well. In order wo
type both English and Russian, you'll have to configure your
keyboard for doing multiple languages.

Hope this helps,
TTYL

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I don't have an answer for you.. It's not able to rewrite your mailbox file..
im assuming you're using unix (I dont know what the L in 4.05 means).. The
only place i see that error generated (It's os specific) is in the
unix_rewrite function.

I'm sure there is an easy answer, like it can't lock your mailbox or
something.. but I don't know it.

EFAULT (BSD Socket, STREAMS): Bad address or the address is not specified or
is invalid.

Someone else probably has the simple answer, i'd run it with truss or strace
and just see what the problem is.

Is there anything in the .pine-debug files?

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> nina ([email protected]) composed today:

> Hi,
> I am using Pine 4.05L. I got this error message when it tried to
> expunge the deleted messages.
> "Checkpoint File Failure: Bad Address"
>
> As a result, I couldn't delete the messages.
> May I know what does this mean? How can I fix it?
>
> Thanx in advance for any pointers.
>
> -Nina
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Good god, no kidding. I just submitted them to Razor as well.

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> Mike A. Harris ([email protected]) composed on Oct 5, 2002:

> Could the maintainers of this mailing list, please unsubscribe
> all users @hix.hu, so that postings to this list do not result in
> users receiving these huge inappropriate spam autoresponder
> emails in return.
>
> I've sent an email to [email protected] as well requesting that they
> fix their email system.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> + If you cannot read this HUNGARIAN text, you probably got it by mistake. +
> + Please do nothing. It very rarely happens twice inadvertently. Sorry. +
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> ======================================================
> == ==
> == HIX * Hollosi Information eXchange ==
> == ==
> ======================================================
> == 2001.12.27. ==
> ======================================================
>
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>they have different parts and titles, but always has 4 parts (including an
>empty text/plain).
>
>Is there some way I can filter on these emails to move them to my
>suspected_spam folder?

Spambouncer is pretty uptodate on blocking known e-mail virus's.
Http://www.spambouncer.org

Or you can just modify the procmail rule in the sb-viruses.rc.

Hope that helps,

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Il giorno Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Erik Parker cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: Erik Parker <[email protected]>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
|Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:40:58 -0500
|Subject: Re: checkpoint failure
|
|
|I don't have an answer for you.. It's not able to rewrite your mailbox fil=
e..
|im assuming you're using unix (I dont know what the L in 4.05 means)..

"L" stands for "local". The pine beeing used was built from locally
modified sources of the official pine distribution.
I can only think of a filesystem inconsistency. If all checks fail, mayb=
e
updating from 4.05 to the latest version (4.44) ... what do the local hacks
consist of?

Sandro

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Hi,

(1) A pine user here requests not to type password when starting Pine after
he logins his user account on RedHat 7.3 Linux. I have to compile the pine
with PASSFILE Compile-time option to resolve it. The problem is that I am
not clear how to compile pine with PASSFILE. I tried several ways, but it
still didn't work. Anyone knows how to do it?

# cd pine-4.44
1) # ./build -passfile lrh -> didn't work!
2) # ./build --passfile lrh -> didn't work!
3) # ./build passfile lrh -> didn't work!
.....

(2) If I want to read both English and Russian emails by Pine, how to
resolve it?

Thanks,
Hong

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*** Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) (1) A pine user here requests not to type password when starting Pine
:) after he logins his user account on RedHat 7.3 Linux. I have to compile
:) the pine with PASSFILE Compile-time option to resolve it. The problem
:) is that I am not clear how to compile pine with PASSFILE. I tried
:) several ways, but it still didn't work. Anyone knows how to do it?

Edit the file "pine4.44/pine/pine.h" and add a line like

#define PASSFILE "lrh"

to that file. This will use a file called "lrh", located in the home
directory of the user using Pine to store passwords. Notice that you can
give a relative path to $HOME too, and it could be a hidden file. Once you
have rebuilt Pine, simply create an empty file with that name on the
location that you specified. The rest of the process is taken care by Pine
once you start it again.

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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

> (1) A pine user here requests not to type password when starting Pine after
> he logins his user account on RedHat 7.3 Linux. I have to compile the pine
> with PASSFILE Compile-time option to resolve it. The problem is that I am
> not clear how to compile pine with PASSFILE. I tried several ways, but it
> still didn't work. Anyone knows how to do it?

Edit pine/osdep/os-lnx.h and define PASSFILE, something like this:

#define PASSFILE ".pine.pwd"

The uesr would then create a file, .pine.pwd, containing his password.

Cheers

Richard

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Eduardo and Richard,

It works!

One more question: What is the different between "pine4.44/pine/pine.h" and
"pine/osdep/os-lnx.h"? Could I use either one of them?

Thanks!
Hong

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*** Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) (1) A pine user here requests not to type password when starting Pine
:) after he logins his user account on RedHat 7.3 Linux. I have to compile
:) the pine with PASSFILE Compile-time option to resolve it. The problem
:) is that I am not clear how to compile pine with PASSFILE. I tried
:) several ways, but it still didn't work. Anyone knows how to do it?

Edit the file "pine4.44/pine/pine.h" and add a line like

#define PASSFILE "lrh"

to that file. This will use a file called "lrh", located in the home
directory of the user using Pine to store passwords. Notice that you can
give a relative path to $HOME too, and it could be a hidden file. Once you
have rebuilt Pine, simply create an empty file with that name on the
location that you specified. The rest of the process is taken care by Pine
once you start it again.

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*** Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) Eduardo and Richard,
:)
:) It works!
:)
:) One more question: What is the different between "pine4.44/pine/pine.h"
:) and "pine/osdep/os-lnx.h"? Could I use either one of them?

Normally files os-xxx.h are reserved for system specific settings. The
file pine.h is for definition of pine variables. Any file ".h" that you
use is fine, see the file headers.h to see why. The reason why I never
recommend os-xxx.h, is because I don't know what the value of xxx in
general is, so I go for what's safe, which is the file pine.h (or several
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Hi,

I noticed, that a Pine 4.44 (as well as the previous versions) doesn't
check (and update) the index list of newsgroups (the list accessed
trough NNTP service), and there is no way to force Pine to do this (the
^H or ^L keys doesn't work for newsgroups).

I made a collection list like this:

NEWS - Arch Pan (Wroc�aw)
News groups on news.arch.pan.wroc.pl/nntp/user=murphy

then I access the news using this collection and everything works fine,
except if I want to see the new posts, I had to go into for example
INBOX folder (means - closing the news folder), then go back to the news
folder again (means - opening this folder again).

Alternative way is to close pine and open it again.
I'm just wondering why there is no way to update the newsgroup list
using some keys like ^H, like it is for a normal list?

Regards,
Murphy

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--On Monday, 07 October2002 20:01 -0700 Eduardo Chappa
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> The reason why I never recommend os-xxx.h, is because I
> don't know what the value of xxx in general is, so I go for
> what's safe, which is the file pine.h (or several others).

Is it possible to specify PASSFILE as a command-line argument to
the build command? If so, I think this would be the easiest way to
do this because:

1) It does not involve finding and editing (and potentially
corrupting) one of the build files

and

2) It could be put into a script and used for future builds. It
seems like I'm always downloading & building Pine and it would be
nice to just use my "mypinebuild" script to do all the configuring
that I want.

Thanks,
Nancy

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Hi,

I am a system Admin. A Pine user on RedHat 7.3 here wants to read (write if
possible) his email with both English and Russian.

(1) I set up "character-set=iso-8859-5" in the pine.conf. But it didn't
work.

(2) I try to use "setfont koi8r-8x8" on RedHat Linux. But I got warning
messages.

Anyone can help me to resolve it?

Thanks,
Hong

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On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>
> I am a system Admin. A Pine user on RedHat 7.3 here wants to read (write if
> possible) his email with both English and Russian.
>

I solved a similar problem by running pine from within emacs, using
emacs-client as an alternate editor, and using pine filters and iconv to
convert messages to the right format.

1) First, set the following options in pine:

character-set=iso-8859-5.
editor=emacsclient

[X] pass-control-characters-as-is
[X] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly

2) Next, set up display-filters to catch messages in other character sets and
display them in iso-8859-5. For instance:
display-filters=
_CHARSET(iso-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t ISO-8859-5
(I don't think this particular example will work, but this is the style of
the filter.)

3) Last, I created an emacs .el file which would start pine and set up the
terminal properly. (The file, pineinemacs.el, is attached.) For russian,
you might want to change references to utf-8 to iso-8859-5. Also change the
paths to the executible file to match your setup. Emacs should be set up to
use the Russian language environment. (See the emacs documentation.) Set
up the .emacs file to load pineinemacs.el.

4) Start emacs with
# emacs -f pine-in-emacs

The result should be a regular pine session inside an emacs frame. When you
try to compose a message, pine will invoke emacs, so the frontmost frame will
be your e-mail editor. To exit back into pine, use C-x #.

This is the way that I do it for UTF-8 composing. I'm pretty sure there is an
easier way to do it for Russian, but this should work. Also, this has the
advantage of using emacs's input methods which make typing mixed russian and
english messages fairly easy. I hope this helps.

Yours,

Zuki

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Yitzchak,

I would like to follow your procedures step by step to set up Russian font
for both pine and emacs:

> [X] pass-control-characters-as-is
I use Pine 4.44 on RedHat, I can find character-set=iso-8859-5,
editor=emacsclient, and enable-alternate-editor-implicitly. But I can't find
the line of pass-control-characters-as-is in pine.conf. Should I recompile
Pine or just add this line of pass-control-characters-as-is to the
pine.conf.

> 2) Next, set up display-filters to catch messages in other character sets
and
> display them in iso-8859-5. For instance:
> display-filters=
> _CHARSET(iso-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t ISO-8859-5
> (I don't think this particular example will work, but this is the style
of
> the filter.)

display-filters should set up on Linux, not on Pine or Emacs, is it right?
How to set up display-filters on RedHat 7.3?

> 3) Last, I created an emacs .el file which would start pine and set up the
> terminal properly. (The file, pineinemacs.el, is attached.) For
russian,
> you might want to change references to utf-8 to iso-8859-5. Also change
the
> paths to the executible file to match your setup. Emacs should be set
up to
> use the Russian language environment. (See the emacs documentation.)
Set
> up the .emacs file to load pineinemacs.el.

Where should I put pineinemacs.el? I don't familiar with Emacs setup. I read
the Emacs documentation, but still not clear yet? To use the Russian
language environment in Emacs, should I use iso-8859-5 or koi8-r? I want to
know how to set up emacs to use the Russian language environment.

I appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Hong

-----Original Message-----
From: Yitzchak M. Gottlieb [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:45 AM
To: Hong Tian
Cc: Pine Discussion Forum
Subject: Re: Pine for both English and Russian

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>
> I am a system Admin. A Pine user on RedHat 7.3 here wants to read (write
if
> possible) his email with both English and Russian.
>

I solved a similar problem by running pine from within emacs, using
emacs-client as an alternate editor, and using pine filters and iconv to
convert messages to the right format.

1) First, set the following options in pine:

character-set=iso-8859-5.
editor=emacsclient

[X] pass-control-characters-as-is
[X] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly

2) Next, set up display-filters to catch messages in other character sets
and
display them in iso-8859-5. For instance:
display-filters=
_CHARSET(iso-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t ISO-8859-5
(I don't think this particular example will work, but this is the style
of
the filter.)

3) Last, I created an emacs .el file which would start pine and set up the
terminal properly. (The file, pineinemacs.el, is attached.) For russian,
you might want to change references to utf-8 to iso-8859-5. Also change
the
paths to the executible file to match your setup. Emacs should be set up
to
use the Russian language environment. (See the emacs documentation.) Set
up the .emacs file to load pineinemacs.el.

4) Start emacs with
# emacs -f pine-in-emacs

The result should be a regular pine session inside an emacs frame. When you
try to compose a message, pine will invoke emacs, so the frontmost frame
will
be your e-mail editor. To exit back into pine, use C-x #.

This is the way that I do it for UTF-8 composing. I'm pretty sure there is
an
easier way to do it for Russian, but this should work. Also, this has the
advantage of using emacs's input methods which make typing mixed russian and
english messages fairly easy. I hope this helps.

Yours,

Zuki

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In response to my advice, Hong Tian sent me some follow-up questions. I had
answered these questions in a private e-mail since I thought they were not
forwarded to the list. Below is a copy of the responses.

Zuki

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:57:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Yitzchak M. Gottlieb <[email protected]>
To: Hong Tian <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Pine for both English and Russian

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

> Yitzchak,
>
> Thank you for your help. I try to follow your setup procedures:
>
> >1) First, set the following options in pine:
>
> I use pine 4.44 on RedHat Linux. I can't find pass-control-characters-as-is
> in pine.conf. Should I add this line in pine.conf.

I usually set pine options using the interface from within pine (from the main
menu, choose setup, then choose config. Or just type M S C into a pine
session.) This edits the .pinerc file which has mostly the same format as
pine.conf, so you can probably just copy and paste.

>
> display-filters is on Linux configuration, not on pine or emacs, right?
> I didn't set up display-filters on Linux before. Would you please let me
> know how to set up display-filters in RedHat Linux?
>

No, it's a pine option. It's accessible with M S C like above.

>
> Where should I put the pineinemacs.el?
>

That depends. If you are doing this for all users on a RedHat system, you can
probably put it in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp. Emacs should be set up to find
it from there.

>
> How to set up Emacs to use the Russian language environment?
>

On RedHat 7.3 (which is what I think you said you are using), from within
emacs, choose the options menu. From the options menu choose the MULE
submenu. From that submenu, choose "set language environment" and choose
Cyrillic-ISO from the Cyrillic submenu.

I hope this helps.
Zuki

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> 4) Start emacs with
> # emacs -f pine-in-emacs

I completed the first 1) 2) 3) steps. After enter # emacs -f pine-in-emacs,
I got the error message:
# emacs -f pine-in-emacs
Symbol's function definition is void: pine-in-emacs

-----Original Message-----
From: Yitzchak M. Gottlieb [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:45 AM
To: Hong Tian
Cc: Pine Discussion Forum
Subject: Re: Pine for both English and Russian

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

>
> I am a system Admin. A Pine user on RedHat 7.3 here wants to read (write
if
> possible) his email with both English and Russian.
>

I solved a similar problem by running pine from within emacs, using
emacs-client as an alternate editor, and using pine filters and iconv to
convert messages to the right format.

1) First, set the following options in pine:

character-set=iso-8859-5.
editor=emacsclient

[X] pass-control-characters-as-is
[X] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly

2) Next, set up display-filters to catch messages in other character sets
and
display them in iso-8859-5. For instance:
display-filters=
_CHARSET(iso-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t ISO-8859-5
(I don't think this particular example will work, but this is the style
of
the filter.)

3) Last, I created an emacs .el file which would start pine and set up the
terminal properly. (The file, pineinemacs.el, is attached.) For russian,
you might want to change references to utf-8 to iso-8859-5. Also change
the
paths to the executible file to match your setup. Emacs should be set up
to
use the Russian language environment. (See the emacs documentation.) Set
up the .emacs file to load pineinemacs.el.

4) Start emacs with
# emacs -f pine-in-emacs

The result should be a regular pine session inside an emacs frame. When you
try to compose a message, pine will invoke emacs, so the frontmost frame
will
be your e-mail editor. To exit back into pine, use C-x #.

This is the way that I do it for UTF-8 composing. I'm pretty sure there is
an
easier way to do it for Russian, but this should work. Also, this has the
advantage of using emacs's input methods which make typing mixed russian and
english messages fairly easy. I hope this helps.

Yours,

Zuki

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On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Hong Tian wrote:

> > 4) Start emacs with
> > # emacs -f pine-in-emacs
>
> I completed the first 1) 2) 3) steps. After enter # emacs -f pine-in-emacs,
> I got the error message:
> # emacs -f pine-in-emacs
> Symbol's function definition is void: pine-in-emacs
>
>

Try opening emacs then type*:

M-x load-library pineinemacs

Then type

M-x pine-in-emacs

If that works, then it means that the file pineinemacs.el is not being
loaded. Add the following line the .emacs file

(load "pineinemacs")

and restart emacs.

Zuki

[*] I'm using emacs conventions M-x means holding down the Meta (usually Alt)
key and pressing x.

PS Should this discussion move off the list at this point? (It's more about
emacs than pine

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I have
[X] prefer-plain-text

turned on...

I've been getting Schwab emails recently (stock closing prices for
my acct) that show up like this:

[ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 201 lines. ]
[ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ]

[ Part 2, Text/HTML 517 lines. ]
[ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ]

Why is it not automatically showing me the first part?

This is pine 4.33.

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You can't use "^X" in sent-mail, so I've cut/paste the "To:" field and used
the "B"ounce command to send mail that got rejected on the remote side for
transient reasons. Is there another way to do this?

-Kenny

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Save the message to the postponed folder, and go Compose. Magic!

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

:>
:>You can't use "^X" in sent-mail, so I've cut/paste the "To:" field and used
:>the "B"ounce command to send mail that got rejected on the remote side for
:>transient reasons. Is there another way to do this?
:>
:> -Kenny
:>
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Hi,

I've configured Pine 4.44 to use me IMAP-SSL Courier-IMAP server with the=
se=20
lines in .pinerc:
inbox-path=3D{myhost/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX
folder-collections=3Dmybox {myhost/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX.[]
and it works just fine. I have three small problems left to solve which I=
=20
couldn't find in the FAQ:

1. Pine stores all sent mail in the folder "sent-mail"... is it possible =
to=20
change so it stores them in the folder "Sent" instead?

2. All my IMAP-folders have a "[.]". after their name in the Folder List,=
but=20
on the disk they have no trailing "[.]". Is it possible to not show that =
in=20
the folder list?

3. When I want to save mails to a folder and presses "tab" to autocomplet=
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On my linux (redhat 7.2) box, I have pine sending
the mail fine.

I'm trying to automate the handling of a
particular class of e-mail (using procmail,
formail, and sendmail) and the headers and
envelope are not coming out right.

I know there is nothing listening on port 25 on
localhost.

So how does pine actually send the mail? Does it
make a direct connection to port 25 on the
addressee machine? Does it pipe it directly into
sendmail, itself?

The question I am trying to answer is, "How in the
world is pine finding something that is configured
right when what I am trying to use is configured
wrong?!"

If I knew what pine is doing, I might copy it for
my automated handling. Or it might help me get
other things configured right.

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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote:
>I'm trying to automate the handling of a
>particular class of e-mail (using procmail,
>formail, and sendmail) and the headers and
>envelope are not coming out right.

On RedHat 7.2 by default sendmail is running. It isn't listening on the
public port but is just binding to the lo interface (127.0.0.1) This
behavior is dictated with the sendmail.mc value:
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

This forces the sendmail daemon to only bind to the 127.0.0.1 interface
and makes it so it's not possible for other machine to send email with it.

By default pine uses localhost to send e-mail.

If sendmail is not running you would need to configure the SMTP host in
the settings of pine.

What is happening to the envelope headers of your message? Looking I see
localhost mentioned, then it goes to your apps server, then to the mail
server, then out to the internet. you can usually trace the exact path of
your sent messages to find out where things are going.

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On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Christopher Fisk wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote:
> >I'm trying to automate the handling of a
> >particular class of e-mail (using procmail,
> >formail, and sendmail) and the headers and
> >envelope are not coming out right.
>
> On RedHat 7.2 by default sendmail is running. It isn't listening on the
> public port but is just binding to the lo interface (127.0.0.1) This
> behavior is dictated with the sendmail.mc value:
> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

I went into the various startup scripts and
disabled things before first connecting the
computer to the net. fetchmail cannot find a
listener on port 25 to do local delivery. I'm
assuming that means pine is not finding a listener
on port 25 to hand off outgoing mail.

> This forces the sendmail daemon to only bind to the 127.0.0.1 interface
> and makes it so it's not possible for other machine to send email with it.
>
> By default pine uses localhost to send e-mail.
>
> If sendmail is not running you would need to configure the SMTP host in
> the settings of pine.

Probably I did that. I'll look.

> What is happening to the envelope headers of your message? Looking I see
> localhost mentioned, then it goes to your apps server, then to the mail
> server, then out to the internet. you can usually trace the exact path of
> your sent messages to find out where things are going.

When Proquest switched to pine (from elm) as the
MUA for unco-operative unix users, I subscribed to
this list at the office to help me learn to use
pine effectively.

The system where I am having problems is dlh.com.
The router and mail server is cosmo.dlh.com with a
192.168.. ip address behind a dialup (diald)
connection.

The thing I am trying to automate is the e-mail
list [email protected], which is implemented by
majordomo at [email protected].

Based on elaborate procmail filtering on
cosmo.dlh.com, a message to [email protected]
gets an "Approved: " header added to it and will
be handed off to [email protected].

Right now, lists.apk.net is rejecting things
because dns does not know about cosmo.dlh.com.
Sendmail is configured to masquerade as dlh.com,
but, for some reason is exposing the domain name
cosmo.dlh.com.

At that point, I thought it might be helpful to
learn why *anything* is working. (I got e-mail
working from the router machine some months ago.
It stopped doing NAT when I dropped diald in, so
everyone is still reading their e-mail on the
router. But that's another project.)

Here are the headers of a message that came to me
at Proquest from pine on that box:

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RFEXC1.psc.bellhow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
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To: "Herrick, Daniel Lance -- daniel lance herrick"
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Subject: Re: hi (fwd)
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Looks like, whatever the transport agent was, it
exposed the domain name cosmo.dlh.com to
mailgw.bellhow.com (we sold the name Bell and
Howell and have to stop using it at the end of the
year - bellhow.com is Proquest.)

That X-Authentication-Warning looks like pine is
running sendmail. It also looks like trying to
send mail to [email protected]
interactively from pine running on cosmo will fail
the same way the automated thing did.

dan

> Christopher Fisk
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>
>

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Hi,
I am suddenly inundated by unwanted mail--this has never happened on my pine
account. In the past the account has been secure, within the university where
I work. Can I filter my mail? How?
Thanks,
JVan

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Il giorno Mon, 14 Oct 2002, daniel lance herrick cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: daniel lance herrick <[email protected]>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
|Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:22:19 -0400
|Subject: Re: How does pine actually send outgoing mail?
|
|
|
|On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Christopher Fisk wrote:
|
|> On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote:
|> >I'm trying to automate the handling of a
|> >particular class of e-mail (using procmail,
|> >formail, and sendmail) and the headers and
|> >envelope are not coming out right.
|>
|> On RedHat 7.2 by default sendmail is running. It isn't listening on the
|> public port but is just binding to the lo interface (127.0.0.1) This
|> behavior is dictated with the sendmail.mc value:
|> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3Dsmtp,Addr=3D127.0.0.1, Name=3DMTA')
|
|I went into the various startup scripts and
|disabled things before first connecting the
|computer to the net. fetchmail cannot find a
|listener on port 25 to do local delivery. I'm
|assuming that means pine is not finding a listener
|on port 25 to hand off outgoing mail.
|

Check your $HOME/.pinerc for a line beginning with "smtp-server=3D" which
defines the SMTP relay host Pine is to use. Syntax:

smtp-server=3DSMTPserver.name[:port-number]

On my computer I commented out the "sendmail-path=3D" line to prevent Pin=
e to
attempt connecting to the unexistant MTA on localhost.

|>
|> If sendmail is not running you would need to configure the SMTP host in
|> the settings of pine.
|
|Probably I did that. I'll look.
|

To know for sure is a MTA is active on your system, just do a telnet
localhost 25:

aselli@aselli ~$ telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 host.domain.tld ESMPT Postfix (1.1.11)
QUIT
221 Bye
Connection closed by foreign host.

Sandro

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I have a similar setup here with courier. Besides annoying users with a
second password prompt, it works wonderfully.

> I've configured Pine 4.44 to use me IMAP-SSL Courier-IMAP server with these
> lines in .pinerc:
> inbox-path={myhost/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX
> folder-collections=mybox {myhost/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX.[]
> and it works just fine. I have three small problems left to solve which I
> couldn't find in the FAQ:

I also have user=${USER} in those options in my
/usr/local/lib/pine.config(.fixed)

>
> 1. Pine stores all sent mail in the folder "sent-mail"... is it possible to
> change so it stores them in the folder "Sent" instead?
>

Change the default-fcc to "Sent".

> 2. All my IMAP-folders have a "[.]". after their name in the Folder List, but
> on the disk they have no trailing "[.]". Is it possible to not show that in
> the folder list?
>

Believe it or not, it looks like quell-empty-directories will prevent
this.

> 3. When I want to save mails to a folder and presses "tab" to autocomplete the
> foldername it fills out the foldername with a trailing dot (".") so I need to
> press backspace every time after an autocomplete. Is it possible to have Pine
> not adding that dot?
>

Try the quell-emtpy-directories

Holler if you need anymore suggestions.

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> > I've configured Pine 4.44 to use me IMAP-SSL Courier-IMAP server with
> > these lines in .pinerc:
> > inbox-path=3D{myhost/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX
> > folder-collections=3Dmybox {myhost/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX.[]
> > and it works just fine. I have three small problems left to solve whi=
ch I
> > couldn't find in the FAQ:
>
> I also have user=3D${USER} in those options in my
> /usr/local/lib/pine.config(.fixed)

Hmm... I don't seem to have that file pine.config or pine.config.fixed=20
anywhere in my system... I'm using RedHat Linux 7.3 i686. In what file sh=
ould=20
I enter those words "user=3D${USER}" ? Can I do it in my ~/.pinerc ?

Thanks alot for your help with "default-fcc" and the magic=20
"quell-emtpy-directories". They both really worked! :)

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> > /usr/local/lib/pine.config(.fixed)
>
> Hmm... I don't seem to have that file pine.config or pine.config.fixed
> anywhere in my system... I'm using RedHat Linux 7.3 i686. In what file should
> I enter those words "user=${USER}" ? Can I do it in my ~/.pinerc ?

I swear I can type, but it's a day off for me, so I'll claim that as my
excuse. It's /usr/local/lib/pine.conf & /usr/local/lib/pine/conf/fixed
for a pretty stock compiled pine.

If you're using redhat, (someone correct me if I'm wrong) I think it's
your /etc/pine.conf & /etc/pine.conf.fixed. The fixed file is for
settings you don't want your users to be able to change. Using these
files saves you from having to create ~/.pinerc files for each user.

> Thanks alot for your help with "default-fcc" and the magic
> "quell-emtpy-directories". They both really worked! :)

Not a problem.

>--))> >--))>
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Il giorno Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Mark T. Valites cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: Mark T. Valites <[email protected]>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
|Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:27:43 -0400
|Subject: Re: Glitches with Courier-IMAP and Pine 4.44
|
|If you're using redhat, (someone correct me if I'm wrong) I think it's
|your /etc/pine.conf & /etc/pine.conf.fixed. The fixed file is for
|settings you don't want your users to be able to change. Using these
|files saves you from having to create ~/.pinerc files for each user.
|

I believe you're right as far as RedHat is concerned. However, on a
Slackware 8.1 I find the file located in /usr/lib/pine/pine.conf. I have n=
o
*fixed file installed by default, however man 1 pine tells me it is to be
located in /usr/lib/pine/pine.conf.fixed .

Sandro

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Hello,

below is a quote of the 'ldapsearch' man page of OpenLDAP v2:

The following command:

ldapsearch -LLL "(sn=smith)" cn sn telephoneNumber

will perform a subtree search (using the default search base
defined in ldap.conf(5)) for entries with a
surname (sn) of smith. The common name (cn), surname (sn) and
telephoneNumber values will be retrieved
and printed to standard output. The output might look something
like this if two entries are found:

dn: uid=jts, dc=example, dc=com
cn: John Smith
cn: John T. Smith
sn: Smith
sn;lang-en: Smith
sn;lang-de: Schmidt
telephoneNumber: 1 555 123-4567

dn: uid=sss, dc=example, dc=com
cn: Steve Smith
cn: Steve S. Smith
sn: Smith
sn;lang-en: Smith
sn;lang-de: Schmidt
telephoneNumber: 1 555 765-4321

So my problem with multiple cn attributes is not home grew: How can I have
pine display one specific cn, in this example it would be "Steve S.
Smith". Is there a standard/RFC somewhere specifying this particular
problem?

To tweak the order of the attributes is not the solution, because
different clients (Netscape Communicate, Mozilla) seem to display either
the first or the last (maybe even a random one).

I have, in particular, a problem with:
1) names that include non-ASCII characters, such as umlauts, accented
letters etc., &
2) persons, who marry.

Both need to have two or more cn/sn/gn attributes to allow _searching_ for
them, e.g.:

1) plain-ASCII variant and native charset ISO-5589-15, &
2) the pre- and post-wedding name.

But when two cn's are present, all the LDAP clients use another
"display name" of the entry found, though, it should be:
1) the native one, &
2) the post-wedding name.

Bye,

--

Steffen Kaiser

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>> Hmm... I don't seem to have that file pine.config or pine.config.fixed
>> anywhere in my system... I'm using RedHat Linux 7.3 i686. In what file
>> should I enter those words "user=${USER}" ? Can I do it in my
>> ~/.pinerc ?
>
> If you're using redhat, I think it's your /etc/pine.conf &
> /etc/pine.conf.fixed.

Thanks I got those files. But I don't really understand where in the
configfile to type "user=${USER}". I tried to put it on a single line but
it still get this when I start Pine:
"HOST: myimapserver.my.domain ENTER LOGIN NAME [myusername] :"
I thought that config ("user=${USER}") would help to avoid that question?

I also have another question... before I switched to Pine with
IMAP/Maildir I had working filtering in my .pinerc . Now only some of the
filterrules seem to work which is strange, also I realizes one need to
type "." instead of "/" to save mail in subfolders. For example this
filterrule works automatically:

LIT:pattern="/NICK=postfix-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=postfix.users/NOKILL=1"

But this rules does not work (no errormessage, it justs no longer filter
these mails after switching to IMAP/Maildir):

LIT:pattern="/NICK=openoffice-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=openoffice.users/NOKILL=1"

But they look very similar to each other, both saves the mail in a
subfolder (postfix.users and openoffice.users) but only the first rule
(postfix.users) seem to work after the switch to IMAP/Maildir.

Any idea why the second rule (openoffice-users) no longer does filter the
mail? If I select messages manually inside Pine by typing ';' + 'T' + 'T'
and "[email protected]" it works, but not automatically when filtering.

Thanks for any help!

--
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Lilla wrote:

> >> Hmm... I don't seem to have that file pine.config or pine.config.fixed
> >> anywhere in my system... I'm using RedHat Linux 7.3 i686. In what file
> >> should I enter those words "user=${USER}" ? Can I do it in my
> >> ~/.pinerc ?
> >
> > If you're using redhat, I think it's your /etc/pine.conf &
> > /etc/pine.conf.fixed.
>
> Thanks I got those files. But I don't really understand where in the
> configfile to type "user=${USER}". I tried to put it on a single line but
> it still get this when I start Pine:
> "HOST: myimapserver.my.domain ENTER LOGIN NAME [myusername] :"
> I thought that config ("user=${USER}") would help to avoid that question?

I have this in my rc file:

inbox-path={localhost/novalidate-cert/user=${USER}}INBOX.

>
> I also have another question... before I switched to Pine with
> IMAP/Maildir I had working filtering in my .pinerc . Now only some of the
> filterrules seem to work which is strange, also I realizes one need to
> type "." instead of "/" to save mail in subfolders. For example this
> filterrule works automatically:
>
> LIT:pattern="/NICK=postfix-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
> action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=postfix.users/NOKILL=1"
>
> But this rules does not work (no errormessage, it justs no longer filter
> these mails after switching to IMAP/Maildir):
>
> LIT:pattern="/NICK=openoffice-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
> action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=openoffice.users/NOKILL=1"
>
> But they look very similar to each other, both saves the mail in a
> subfolder (postfix.users and openoffice.users) but only the first rule
> (postfix.users) seem to work after the switch to IMAP/Maildir.
>
> Any idea why the second rule (openoffice-users) no longer does filter the
> mail? If I select messages manually inside Pine by typing ';' + 'T' + 'T'
> and "[email protected]" it works, but not automatically when filtering.
>
> Thanks for any help!

No idea on the filters - I use procmail.

>
> --
> LH
>
>
>

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> inbox-path={localhost/novalidate-cert/user=${USER}}INBOX.

Thanks, that worked! :)

>> I also have another question... before I switched to Pine with
>> IMAP/Maildir I had working filtering in my .pinerc . Now only some of
>> the filterrules seem to work which is strange, also I realizes one
>> need to type "." instead of "/" to save mail in subfolders. For
>> example this filterrule works automatically:
>>
>> LIT:pattern="/NICK=postfix-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
>> action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=postfix.users/NOKILL=1"
>>
>> But this rules does not work (no errormessage, it justs no longer
>> filter these mails after switching to IMAP/Maildir):
>>
>> LIT:pattern="/NICK=openoffice-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
>> action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=openoffice.users/NOKILL=1"
>
> No idea on the filters - I use procmail.

After testing more it looks like after switching to IMAP/Maildir Pine no
longer can filter the "TO=" automatically, only "SENDER=", strange isn't
it?

--
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> No idea on the filters - I use procmail.

Just curious.. I'm a bit newbie when it comes to filtering (I have always
used Pine's filtering).

How do you use Procmail together with Pine? Do you use it separately? Is
procmail running on the client or on the mailserver?

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*** Lilla ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) >> LIT:pattern="/NICK=postfix-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
:) >> action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=postfix.users/NOKILL=1"
:) >>
:) >> But this rules does not work (no errormessage, it justs no longer
:) >> filter these mails after switching to IMAP/Maildir):
:) >>
:) >> LIT:pattern="/NICK=openoffice-users/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX"
:) >> action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=openoffice.users/NOKILL=1"
:) >
:) > No idea on the filters - I use procmail.
:)
:) After testing more it looks like after switching to IMAP/Maildir Pine
:) no longer can filter the "TO=" automatically, only "SENDER=", strange
:) isn't it?

Right, this is a bug in the Courier IMAP server. Many people have noticed
it, I wonder why it has not been addressed. Has anyone reported it to the
developers of that server?

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On Oct 14, 2002, 09:27 (-0400) daniel lance herrick <[email protected]=
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> So how does pine actually send the mail? Does it
> make a direct connection to port 25 on the
> addressee machine? Does it pipe it directly into
> sendmail, itself?

By default pine runs sendmail directly, that is, it does not need any
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i don't know howto save mail in maildir format on pine4.44
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Hi,

(1) Our mail server is NT Exchange server. I downloaded pine-bin.sun58 and
installed it on Sun Ultra 10. It is working good. The pine.conf is as
following:

user-domain=ias.edu
inbox-path={exchange.ias.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX
character-set=iso-8859-1

(2) Now we decide to use PASSFILE, so the user doesn't need password to
login pine. I download the latest pine.tar.Z and compile using gcc version
2.95.2 as followings:

# cd /download/pine4.44
# ./build gs5
# cp /pine4.44/bin/pine /usr/local/bin
# su - htian
% pine

I use the same pine.conf as before. But I get error message as followings:
[Can't open mailbox {exchange.ias.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX: invalid
remote specification]

Anyone knows what is the problem for this new compiling? How should I
resolve the invalid remote specification?

Thanks,
Hong

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*** Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I use the same pine.conf as before. But I get error message as
:) followings: [Can't open mailbox
:) {exchange.ias.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX: invalid remote
:) specification]

It looks like you did not compile SSL into it, if you want to know if SSL
is compiled into it, start pine as follows:

pine -supported

it will give you a list of drrivers, authenticators, etc that are
supported. At the very top, it should say:

Encryption:
TLS and SSL

if it does not say that, then SSL was not added, and you should see why it
was so. Normally, pine will tell you either at the moment that compilation
starts why it can not add SSL (e.g. the ssl library is in the wrong
directory) or at the end it will tell you another message, of what it
found wrong, and you should try to solve those problems, otherwise, you
won't be able to add SSL support. If you don't care about ssl, and you
want to avoid seeing nasty error messages simply build pine as

build NOSSL xyz

(xyz is the code you need to enter).

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Eduardo,

Pine works good after compiling SSL into it. I compiled with
PASSFILE='pinepass'. It looks that I need to create the "pinepass" file for
each users. We have hundreds of users. Should I create all hundreds of
"pinepass" files, or there may be a way to create only one "pinepass" file
on the top of root? Do you know the simple solution?

Thanks,
Hong

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*** Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I use the same pine.conf as before. But I get error message as
:) followings: [Can't open mailbox
:) {exchange.ias.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX: invalid remote
:) specification]

It looks like you did not compile SSL into it, if you want to know if SSL
is compiled into it, start pine as follows:

pine -supported

it will give you a list of drrivers, authenticators, etc that are
supported. At the very top, it should say:

Encryption:
TLS and SSL

if it does not say that, then SSL was not added, and you should see why it
was so. Normally, pine will tell you either at the moment that compilation
starts why it can not add SSL (e.g. the ssl library is in the wrong
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build NOSSL xyz

(xyz is the code you need to enter).

--
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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
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*** Hong Tian ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) Pine works good after compiling SSL into it. I compiled with
:) PASSFILE='pinepass'. It looks that I need to create the "pinepass" file
:) for each users. We have hundreds of users. Should I create all hundreds
:) of "pinepass" files, or there may be a way to create only one
:) "pinepass" file on the top of root? Do you know the simple solution?

Right, create a passfile for each user, or let every user create it by
themselves, do not create one for everybody, as it's very easy to decrypt
it if it falls in the wrong hands. In PC-Pine a user has the ability to
specify the location of the password file from the command line, I have a
patch in my web page that allows you to do the same but for unix Pine (the
disadvantage is that the location of the password file, but not its
content, will be visible when you execute the "ps" command).

My advise would be that whatever you do, create a password file that will
be hidden from the view of the user, so that they can not tamper with it
in any way. Normally running a script as root that "touches" the password
file for every user should solve this problem for you, and this should be
fast.

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Hong Tian wrote:

> Pine works good after compiling SSL into it. I compiled with
> PASSFILE='pinepass'. It looks that I need to create the "pinepass"
> file for each users. We have hundreds of users. Should I create all
> hundreds of "pinepass" files, or there may be a way to create only one
> "pinepass" file on the top of root? Do you know the simple solution?

You need one for each, I think.

cd /home
for i in *
do
touch $i/pinepass
chown $i.$i $i/pinepass
done

is how I would do it if all the user directories were under /home and
you have UID = GID setup.

May need tweaking for your setup.

TjL

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