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I am using PCPine 4.4 on my computer.  I want to use Netscape to
activate URLs.  Although the path for netscape.exe is listed in my
configuration, Pine insists on loading Explore, but does not insert
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Any suggestions on how to get the URL to pop up in Netscape and find
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Subject: Sending body of message as html from the command line (outgoing.patch)
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Has anyone ever tried to include a body of a message as html from the
command line?  Using a sending-filter like one on this list a while
back:

sending-filters=/<pathToExecutable>/mime_types _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_

Where: mime_types is:

#!/bin/sh
echo "Content-Type:text/html" > $2

That works fine from within perl's gui, but say if you use:

pine -I '^X,y' -subject 'the subject line' -attach myfile.ps <
messageBody.html

with the outgoing.patch, it doesn't pay attention to any of the settings
you've setup (just sending the messageBody as plain text (TEXT/PLAIN).
Then if you remove the " -I '^X,y' ", and it brings you into pine's gui,
you hit ^X,y and it works fine!  Sending the redirected input fine!
It's a crazy thing and I don't know if anyone will understand what I'm
getting at, but its worth a try.  Also, I've found that you can do it
inline iff you use '-attach messageBody.html', w/o any additional
attachments or redirected message body's.  Then the option header shows
the correct text/html.  Has anyone ever successfully done this, is there
another way of going about this..perhaps a way of specifying each
individual attachment's type in-line (via the command line).  I'd like
to be able to make a doc in html, have it look decent with an additional
attachment included.  Ideally, it would be cool to use inline display of
an html attachment, but I know some people frown on that sort of thing.
The pine version I'm using is pine 4.44 with all.patch compiled in.

Thanks





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Our new system administrator just completed upgrading SSH, along
with upgrading openssl.  Since then, I can only get to my mail server
in a non-secure mode using PC-Pine.

Any suggestions?

Other applications using SSH appear to work correctly.

-- Steve Lowe
   Aurora University

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Steve,
The new SSHD was compiled using openssl-0.9.6e.

Dave

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Hi Kyle,

   Sorry I couldnt send mail to you directly cause I dont have the digital
ID. Thanks a lot for your information. I already download the patch file for
Pine version 4.20. Anyway, we need to compile Pine in order to apply the
patch. Can you tell me how to compile Pine? Besides that, do you know
normally where is the source code of Pine stored ? Thank you very much.

Regards,
Lim


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Hey Lim,

Yeah, there is.  You need to install the outgoing.patch .  You can get it
from http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/. It is called "Pine sends
e-mail from the command line".  You can follow the instructions on that page
to find out how to use it.  If ya need any pointers, let me know.  Thanks.

~Kyle




























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Hello,

There are few question which still bothering me about News and Pine.

1) The first is about multi NNTP servers and way how the pine uses them to
send a post to the news groups.

The problem occurs when I try to post a message to the one NNTP server from one
news collection defined like this:

   NEWS - SONY
       News groups on news.sonytel.be/nntp

   NEWS - Arch Pan (Wroc�aw)
       News groups on news.arch.pan.wroc.pl/nntp/user=murphy

Then normal reaction is to set both NNTP severs to the "nntp-server" field in
the SETUP CONFIGURATION screen, but this solution doesn't work so nice because
it try to send a message using each news server from the specified list as long
as it find the correct one.

I think the Pine should take the server name from a collection definition list,
not from "nntp-server" list in case when the server is not defined in the
"nntp-server" or there is more nntp servers defined in the collection list.

2) The second issue is a problem when the different NNTP servers contains this
same news group names.

In this case there is no way to define some role which will explicitly
recognise which NNTP server to use to send a post to the news groups.

Using the previous collection definition, where each one can contain a group
named "alt.news", posting to the group we have only the "alt.news" in the
"Newsgrps:" header field and no info about which NNTP server will be used to
send this message.

There is also no rule to NNTP servers, either in a pure Pine 4.44 or patched
version.

3) There is no way to refresh and automatically download a new posted messages
from a opened newsgroup message index. Shortcut CTRL+L doesn't work for this
screen. Only opening the another folder and go back to the newsgroup window
can help this or closing a Pine and open it again.

Assuming: Looks like a Pine at this moment is not able to fully handle a
newsgroups trough a NNTP servers.

Regards,
Murphy

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Hi. I already downloaded the latest Pine version 4.44 source code, which is
contained in the pine.tar.Z. Can anyone tell me how to recompile Pine
program and install it and apply patch for it from the pine.tar.Z file?

Currently I am using Pine 4.20. I also downloaded a patch file in order to
make Pine can send mail from command line. According to Pine web site, to
apply the patch, we need to compile Pine first, then apply the patch and
then compile again. How to compile Pine? Where is the source code?

Patch Pine 4.20 or install Pine 4.44, which one is easier and safer?

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http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/installation.html (?)

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Halo Kyle,
       I am using Turbo Linux as my server OS. I downloaded the file named
"pine.tar.Z". If we compile the new PINE, it wont affect other program in my
server rite? If compilation failed, can I still use back the old PINE (the
one I use currently) ? Thank you.

Regards,
Nick Lim Eng Keong

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Hi, I just downloaded the lastest PINE source code from PINE website. The file
name called pine.tar.Z. How can I extract this file in order to get the source
code? I am using Turbo Linux as my server OS. Thank you very much.

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Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
1) ./build clean
2) ./build lnx

Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
down the message displayed while I compiled Pine 4.44( see attachment).
Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Lim Eng Keong

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Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
1) ./build clean
2) ./build lnx

Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
down the message displayed while I compiled Pine 4.44( see attachment).
Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Lim Eng Keong



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make args are CC=3Dcc  lnx

Making c-client library, imapd, and ipopd
eval make CC=3Dcc SPECIALS=3D lnx
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
make[1]: `lnxok' is up to date.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
Applying an process to sources...
tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
ln -s tools/an .
make build EXTRACFLAGS=3D'' EXTRALDFLAGS=3D'' EXTRADRIVERS=3D'mbox' =
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=3D'' PASSWDTYPE=3Dstd SSLTYPE=3Dnone =
EXTRASPECIALS=3D'' BUILDTYPE=3Dlnx
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
Building c-client for lnx...
echo `cat SPECIALS`  > c-client/SPECIALS
cd c-client;make lnx EXTRACFLAGS=3D''\
EXTRALDFLAGS=3D''\
EXTRADRIVERS=3D'mbox'\
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=3D''\
PASSWDTYPE=3Dstd SSLTYPE=3Dnone\

make[2]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
You are building for traditional Linux *without* shadow
passwords and with the crypt function in the C library.
If your system has shadow passwords, or if crypt is not
in the C library, you must use slx, sl4, or sl5 instead!
make build EXTRACFLAGS=3D'' EXTRALDFLAGS=3D'' EXTRADRIVERS=3D'mbox' =
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=3D'' PASSWDTYPE=3Dstd SSLTYPE=3Dnone `cat SPECIALS` =
OS=3Dlnx \
SIGTYPE=3Dpsx CRXTYPE=3Dnfs \
SPOOLDIR=3D/var/spool \
ACTIVEFILE=3D/var/lib/news/active \
RSHPATH=3D/usr/bin/rsh \
BASECFLAGS=3D"-g -O"
make[3]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
sh -c 'rm -rf auths.c crexcl.c nfstest.c linkage.[ch] siglocal.c =
osdep*.[ch] *.o ARCHIVE *FLAGS *TYPE c-client.a || true'
Once-only environment setup...
echo cc > CCTYPE
echo -g -O '' > CFLAGS
echo -DCREATEPROTO=3Dunixproto -DEMPTYPROTO=3Dunixproto \
-DMAILSPOOL=3D\"/var/spool/mail\" \
-DANONYMOUSHOME=3D\"/var/spool/mail/anonymous\" \
-DACTIVEFILE=3D\"/var/lib/news/active\" =
-DNEWSSPOOL=3D\"/var/spool/news\" \
-DRSHPATH=3D\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -DLOCKPGM=3D\"/etc/mlock\" > OSCFLAGS
echo   > LDFLAGS
echo "ar rc c-client.a mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o =
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o =
nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o =
news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a" > ARCHIVE
/drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news phile =
dummy
/mkauths  md5 pla log
make[4]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
echo -DMD5ENABLE=3D\"/etc/cram-md5.pwd\" >> OSCFLAGS
make[4]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
ln -s os_lnx.h osdep.h
ln -s os_lnx.c osdepbas.c
ln -s log_std.c osdeplog.c
ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c
ln -s crx_nfs.c crexcl.c
sh -c '(test -f /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h -a lnx !=3D sc5 -a lnx !=3D =
sco) && ln -s nfstnew.c nfstest.c || ln -s nfstold.c nfstest.c'
Standard password authentication
ln -s ckp_std.c osdepckp.c
Building without SSL support
ln -s ssl_none.c osdepssl.c
cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` misc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` newsrc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smanager.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` utf8.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` siglocal.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` dummy.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pseudo.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` netmsg.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` flstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` fdstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` rfc822.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` nntp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smtp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` imap4r1.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pop3.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` unix.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbox.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mmdf.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` tenex.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mtx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` news.c
news.c: In function `news_open':
news.c:300: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible =
pointer type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` phile.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mh.c
mh.c: In function `mh_ping':
mh.c:639: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer =
type
mh.c: In function `mh_append':
mh.c:896: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer =
type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mx.c
mx.c: In function `mx_ping':
mx.c:582: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer =
type
sh -c 'rm -rf c-client.a || true'
ar rc c-client.a mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o =
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o =
nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o =
news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a
make[3]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
echo lnx > OSTYPE
touch rebuild
sh -c 'rm -rf rebuild || true'
Building bundled tools...
cd mtest;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/mtest'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS`   -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o =
./c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
mtest.o: In function `prompt':
/calc/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/mtest/mtest.c:517: the `gets' function is =
dangerous and should not be used.
./c-client/c-client.a(osdep.o): In function `checkpw':
/calc/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client/osdep.c:77: undefined reference to =
`crypt'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/mtest'
make[1]: *** [bundled] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
make: *** [lnx] Error 2

Making Pico and Pilot
make CC=3Dcc -f makefile.lnx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.h os.h
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o main.o =
main.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o attach.o =
attach.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o basic.o =
basic.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o bind.o =
bind.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o browse.o =
browse.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o buffer.o =
buffer.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o composer.o =
composer.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o display.o =
display.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o file.o =
file.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o fileio.o =
fileio.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o line.o =
line.c
cd osdep; make includer os-lnx.c; cd ..
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pico/osdep'
cc -o includer includer.c
/includer < os-lnx.ic > os-lnx.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pico/osdep'
rm -f pico_os.c
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c pico_os.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o pico_os.o =
pico_os.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o pico.o =
pico.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o random.o =
random.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o region.o =
region.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o search.o =
search.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o window.o =
window.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o word.o =
word.c
ar ru libpico.a attach.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o =
display.o file.o fileio.o line.o pico_os.o pico.o random.o region.o =
search.o window.o word.o
ranlib libpico.a
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE main.o libpico.a  =
-lncurses -o pico
/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lncurses: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [pico] Error 1

Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
make CC=3Dcc -f makefile.lnx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.h os.h
/cmplhlp2.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.h
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o addrbook.o =
addrbook.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o adrbkcmd.o =
adrbkcmd.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o adrbklib.o =
adrbklib.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o args.o =
args.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o bldaddr.o =
bldaddr.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o context.o =
context.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o filter.o =
filter.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o folder.o =
folder.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o help.o =
help.c
/cmplhelp.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o helptext.o =
helptext.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o imap.o =
imap.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o init.o =
init.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailcap.o =
mailcap.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailcmd.o =
mailcmd.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailindx.o =
mailindx.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailpart.o =
mailpart.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailview.o =
mailview.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o newmail.o =
newmail.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o other.o =
other.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o pine.o =
pine.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o reply.o =
reply.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o screen.o =
screen.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o send.o =
send.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o signals.o =
signals.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o status.o =
status.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o strings.o =
strings.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o takeaddr.o =
takeaddr.c
cd osdep; make includer os-lnx.c; cd ..
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pine/osdep'
cc -o includer includer.c
/includer < os-lnx.ic > os-lnx.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pine/osdep'
rm -f os.c
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c os.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o os.o os.c
echo "char datestamp[]=3D"\"`date`\"";" > date.c
echo "char hoststamp[]=3D"\"`hostname`\"";" >> date.c
cc    -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o =
adrbkcmd.o adrbklib.o args.o bldaddr.o context.o filter.o folder.o =
help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o =
mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o =
signals.o status.o strings.o takeaddr.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a =
./c-client/c-client.a  -lncurses `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lncurses: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [pine] Error 1

Links to executables are in bin directory:
size: bin/pine: No such file or directory
size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory
size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory
size: bin/pico: No such file or directory
size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory
size: bin/rpdump: No such file or directory
size: bin/rpload: No such file or directory
size: bin/ipop2d: No such file or directory
size: bin/ipop3d: No such file or directory
Done


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> Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
> Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
> 1) ./build clean
> 2) ./build lnx
>
> Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
> down the message displayed while I compiled Pine 4.44( see attachment).
> Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

I don't believe attachments survive the distribution list SW.  Best to cut'n
paste.

Have you tried Linux platforms other than "lnx"?

Ed


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On Aug 8, 2002 at 15:03, Lim Eng Keong wrote:

>Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
>Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
>1) ./build clean
>2) ./build lnx

You don't have ncurses. You don't have crypt(). I don't know where
you'd get crypt.

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> Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
> down the message displayed while I compiled Pine 4.44( see attachment).
> Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

When you read the attachment you sent you see the following statement...

make[2]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
You are building for traditional Linux *without* shadow
passwords and with the crypt function in the C library.
If your system has shadow passwords, or if crypt is not
in the C library, you must use slx, sl4, or sl5 instead!

And then later in the attempt to build you see...

/calc/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client/osdep.c:77: undefined reference to
`crypt'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1

Hummm...do you see a pattern starting to develop?

Ed


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PINE 4.44 (and possibly older versions) seems to have problems
with German umlauts being used.  The full bug details are
available in Red Hat bugzilla at:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70518

Is anyone aware of a bugfix for this problem?


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On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:49:52 +0930 (CST)
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>Subject: Re: [pine] problems with 8-bit characters (such as German umlauts)
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>At 2002-08-08 04:14 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
>> PINE 4.44 (and possibly older versions) seems to have problems
>> with German umlauts being used.  The full bug details are
>> available in Red Hat bugzilla at:
>
>Wh�t kind of pr�bl�ms?

The ones in the bug report referenced in my original email.


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Hey there pine folks,

I emailed this a few months ago, then forgot about it (there was no
discussion about it).  But I just noticed this behavior again, and if a
new version of pine is happening, this might be an easy thing to fix.

Joel

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Subject: (b)ounce munges flags

Hey,

This may or may not be a bug -- I'v replicated it as far back as 4.33, so
I figure someone would've found it by now.

But, when I open my inbox (or any mailbox, for that matter), hit 'b' on a
message that has the 'new' flag set, then ^C (cancel), the 'new' flag is
unset, and the message is no longer flagged as new.

Is this the expected behavior?  A quick search of the archive reveals no
previous report of this.

For the record:

Redhat 7.1
Pine 4.44 (patched, but replicated with clean builds of everything back to
4.33; versions past that not tested)
courier-imap mail server (version available if necessary)

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Hi folks,

I have a pb: in our organization (unfortunately like in=20
most of them), the mail is managed via MS Exchange server.
I want to use PCPine as email client and it works fine
to READ email, I have no pb.
When I want to send an email to someone WITHIN the
coporate, it works also fine (I use the exchange server
as the SMTP server)
BUT when I want to send a mail outside, that doesn't work,
the exchange server is configure to not accept SMTP requests
to outside email addresses :-(((

my admins want me to use lookout HUGHH!

does anyone knows any kind of "local SMTP" server that will
be able to talk with exchange using the same protocol
than lookout so that I can configure pine to use the local SMTP
which will relay to exchange ????

       pcpine ----> local "smtp proxy" ----> MS EXCHANGE

thanks a lot/Bertrand
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Hi!

Sometimes my inbox gets set to READONLY because of me reading my mail
through webmail or with IMAP or something like that. Is there someway to
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All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before (pine
4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't login,
waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session; (2) while
logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the next attempt to
run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 session". There is
nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session still running I could
kill). It's happened twice so far, the first time I could log in after 5
minutes (new mail had been delivered in the meantime - maybe that was the
problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.

If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get right
back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only time I
haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine session running
as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and then kill and log
right back on.

I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?

(Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't get
in, "mailbox locked by other server")

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

Bruce Cohen




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This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't
die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail
server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail never
got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had the
lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to knock
your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing the
offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock" files
too, if you're using that style of locking.)

Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went
away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured
out why the server processes were hanging.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:03 AM
To: Pine Discussion Forum
Subject: mailbox locked by other session



All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before
(pine
4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't
login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
(2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the next
attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 session".
There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session still
running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first time I
could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in the
meantime - maybe that was the
problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.

If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get right
back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only time I
haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine session running
as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and then kill and log
right back on.

I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?

(Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't
get in, "mailbox locked by other server")

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

Bruce Cohen




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Problem is I can't kill anything - and I can't logon to the popper
either - tried telnetting there - same story. At least I can't by
telnetting to port 110 and logging in with USER and PASS: the lock
applies there also. Is there a way to just telnet there and see what
processes are running? I suppose I could kill it if I could find it
since I am the owner. My knowledge of the popper commands is very
limited, however, I believe I only know USER, PASS, LIST, DELE (or at
least that's all I remember). Is there any documentation to be found on
this?

Sending mail to myself does seem to help, albeit not immediately - at
least at some point within the next half hour I can get back on again - so
at some point it manages to get unlocked.

Bruce

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't
> die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail
> server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail never
> got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had the
> lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to knock
> your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing the
> offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock" files
> too, if you're using that style of locking.)
>
> Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went
> away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured
> out why the server processes were hanging.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:03 AM
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: mailbox locked by other session
>
>
>
> All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before
> (pine
> 4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't
> login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
> (2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the next
> attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 session".
> There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session still
> running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first time I
> could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in the
> meantime - maybe that was the
> problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.
>
> If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get right
> back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only time I
> haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine session running
> as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and then kill and log
> right back on.
>
> I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?
>
> (Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't
> get in, "mailbox locked by other server")
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce Cohen
>
>
>
>
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
> Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.

       And if you're willing to change providers to get a shell,
Nancy McGough has a list on her site.

       Anybody happen to know which of those is good about keeping
its pine reasonably up to date?

       Also, even among ISP's that offer shell accounts, so-called
national availability may mean less than meets the eye. Speakeasy
claims it, for instance -- but its only "local" dialup in area code
540 is in Fredericksburg, just south of DC, although that area
extends to the opposite end of Virginia.

--
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I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.  I'm not aware
of any documentation, but I didn't look too hard either.  It wasn't my
primary responsibility at the time, and the problem was fixed on
upgrade.

It is entirely possible it is a different problem too, since my problem
was with imap.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:38 PM
To: Sobocinski, Todd
Cc: Pine Discussion Forum
Subject: RE: mailbox locked by other session



Problem is I can't kill anything - and I can't logon to the popper
either - tried telnetting there - same story. At least I can't by
telnetting to port 110 and logging in with USER and PASS: the lock
applies there also. Is there a way to just telnet there and see what
processes are running? I suppose I could kill it if I could find it
since I am the owner. My knowledge of the popper commands is very
limited, however, I believe I only know USER, PASS, LIST, DELE (or at
least that's all I remember). Is there any documentation to be found on
this?

Sending mail to myself does seem to help, albeit not immediately - at
least at some point within the next half hour I can get back on again -
so at some point it manages to get unlocked.

Bruce

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't=20
> die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail=20
> server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail=20
> never got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had=20
> the lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to=20
> knock your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing

> the offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock"

> files too, if you're using that style of locking.)
>
> Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went

> away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured

> out why the server processes were hanging.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:03 AM
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: mailbox locked by other session
>
>
>
> All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before=20
> (pine
> 4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't=20
> login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
> (2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the=20
> next attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3=20
> session". There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session

> still running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first=20
> time I could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in=20
> the meantime - maybe that was the
> problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.
>
> If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get=20
> right back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only=20
> time I haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine=20
> session running as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and

> then kill and log right back on.
>
> I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?
>
> (Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't

> get in, "mailbox locked by other server")
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce Cohen
>
>
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>  For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: =20
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
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Since 1997 I have successfully used aggregate command to export multiple
messages from binary news groups.  Well, now many in usenet are encoding with
yenc.  I understand yenc files are 8-bit.  Well, so far after exporting all the
sections to a file on my unix shell, I download them with the ftp program in a
DOS-box.  I've tried both ascii--and--binary.  So far, no matter which yenc
decoding programs, dos/windows, the files never work.
So I wondered if there were a conversion that Pine does on files like this
which would make them worthless?  I know nothing about saving binaries from
trn, so I am happy with pine4.44.
Any suggestions please---thanks
Hart




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Since 1997 I have successfully used aggregate command to export multiple
messages from binary news groups.  Well, now many in usenet are encoding with
yenc.  I understand yenc files are 8-bit.  Well, so far after exporting all the
sections to a file on my unix shell, I download them with the ftp program in a
DOS-box.  I've tried both ascii--and--binary.  So far, no matter which yenc
decoding programs, dos/windows, the files never work.
So I wondered if there were a conversion that Pine does on files like this
which would make them worthless?  I know nothing about saving binaries from
trn, so I am happy with pine4.44.
Any suggestions please---thanks
Hart



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I have a shell account - and can kill any processes on the shell that
are a problem.

This is different: the process is on the server itself...

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Beartooth wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:
>
> > I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
> > Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.
>
>       And if you're willing to change providers to get a shell,
> Nancy McGough has a list on her site.
>
>       Anybody happen to know which of those is good about keeping
> its pine reasonably up to date?
>
>       Also, even among ISP's that offer shell accounts, so-called
> national availability may mean less than meets the eye. Speakeasy
> claims it, for instance -- but its only "local" dialup in area code
> 540 is in Fredericksburg, just south of DC, although that area
> extends to the opposite end of Virginia.
>
> --
> Beartooth the Stubborn <karhunhammas (at) lserv.com>, double retiree,
> linux hatchling w/ RH 7.2; ssh'd (DSL) to pine 4.43 on ISP's SunOS 5.8;
> Opera 6.02, Pan 0.11.2, Galeon 1.2.5, & Mozilla 1.0
> standard disclaimer : Keep in mind that I have no idea what I am talking
> about
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Today I came back after a week on vacation and had two problems with
pine, one on my personal acct, one on my work acct.

On the personal acct, I started up pine, and it crashed and core dumped.
I successfully started up pine again right after that..  I presume it
crashed running filters or something... since there were over 300 new
messages in this mailbox.  This is running pine 4.33 on:
% uname -a
SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc

I'm using IMAP to access the account.

On my work account, I just about died thinking pine had nuked my mail.
I selected new, narrowed to select only recipients "carbon-dev".. that was
around 400 of over 1000 new messages..  saved to another folder..
I went to the other folder, verified the messages were there, went back to
INBOX.. expunged..

Then it showed my INBOX with only the FIRST message in the mailbox,
and the message at the bottom of the screen was "No more messages in folder"
or something like that.

It was in some funky state..  while still in that state, I ran pine again in
another terminal window and my mail was just fine (whew)..  I finally got the
first mail to quit, and at that point it rightfully said:
Pine finished -- Closed folder "INBOX". Kept all 2,568 messages.

This is running pine 4.44, and I'm on Mac OS X 10.2 final.  (Though I think
the pine was compiled way back on 10.1.5)

So basically -- what caused pine to get so confused in these cases?

For the crash, maybe I forget how to use core dumps, because I don't get
any symbols..  I simply did a "core core" and then 'bt'.

(gdb) bt
#0  0xef5c5c84 in ?? ()
#1  0xef5c5b14 in ?? ()
#2  0x188000 in ?? ()
#3  0x1875c4 in ?? ()
#4  0x8c980 in ?? ()
#5  0x1206a4 in ?? ()
#6  0x120bd0 in ?? ()
#7  0x120434 in ?? ()
#8  0x13deec in ?? ()
#9  0x1006bc in ?? ()
#10 0x11ebb0 in ?? ()
#11 0xef5b89e4 in ?? ()
#12 0xef5c5c1c in ?? ()
#13 0xef5c5b14 in ?? ()
#14 0x1ca4d8 in ?? ()
#15 0x1ca798 in ?? ()
#16 0x13e0c0 in ?? ()
#17 0x13e2b0 in ?? ()
#18 0x120978 in ?? ()
#19 0x11f67c in ?? ()
#20 0xef5b89e4 in ?? ()
#21 0xef5c61dc in ?? ()
#22 0xef5c6a94 in ?? ()
#23 0xef5c5c1c in ?? ()
#24 0xef5c5b14 in ?? ()
#25 0x188000 in ?? ()
#26 0x187654 in ?? ()
#27 0x17d5bc in ?? ()
#28 0x181afc in ?? ()
#29 0x181cfc in ?? ()
#30 0x181cfc in ?? ()
#31 0x17ee8c in ?? ()
#32 0x17ece4 in ?? ()
#33 0x12dff4 in ?? ()
#34 0xb6efc in ?? ()
#35 0xaa4e4 in ?? ()
#36 0xa8d08 in ?? ()
#37 0xfbc4c in ?? ()
(gdb) quit

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Basically -- I started up pine, it crashed.  I started up pine again, it
worked.  4.33 on "SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc".

I remembered (or rather, guessed and was right) how to get a real backtrace
with a core file..

Dunno if this leads anybody to a useful fix..


/home/mattack % gdb /usr/local/bin/pine
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6),
Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
(gdb) core core
Core was generated by `pine'.
Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxnet.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-1/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/nss_files.so.1...done.
#0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
#1  0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#2  0x188000 in fs_get (size=81) at fs_unix.c:30
#3  0x1875c4 in cpystr (
   string=0x33dc18 "{vax.area.com/user=mattack}INBOX : Message 2691 UID 8870259 greater than last 56") at misc.c:68
#4  0x8c980 in add_review_message ()
#5  0x1206a4 in status_message_write ()
#6  0x120bd0 in output_message ()
#7  0x120434 in flush_status_messages ()
#8  0x13deec in end_screen ()
#9  0x1006bc in panic ()
#10 0x11ebb0 in auger_in_signal ()
#11 <signal handler called>
#12 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
#13 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#14 0x1ca4d8 in init_stack ()
#15 0x1ca798 in tparm ()
#16 0x13e0c0 in moveabsolute ()
#17 0x13e2b0 in MoveCursor ()
#18 0x120978 in status_message_write ()
#19 0x11f67c in alarm_signal ()
#20 <signal handler called>
#21 0xef5c62bc in realfree ()
#22 0xef5c6a94 in cleanfree ()
#23 0xef5c5c1c in _malloc_unlocked ()
#24 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#25 0x188000 in fs_get (size=3) at fs_unix.c:30
#26 0x187654 in textcpy (dst=0x33c89c, src=0x3991f8) at misc.c:101
#27 0x17d5bc in mail_fetch_header (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
   lines=0xefffdcb8, len=0xefffdcb4, flags=10) at mail.c:1351
#28 0x181afc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
   pgm=0x3a5358) at mail.c:2973
#29 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
   pgm=0x3a5268) at mail.c:3009
#30 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
   pgm=0x3a51f0) at mail.c:3009
#31 0x17ee8c in mail_search_default (stream=0x33c7e0,
   charset=0xa3b <Address 0xa3b out of bounds>, pgm=0x3a51f0, flags=22)
   at mail.c:1971
#32 0x17ece4 in mail_search_full (stream=0x33c7e0, charset=0x0, pgm=0x3a51f0,
   flags=22) at mail.c:1938
#33 0x12dff4 in match_pattern ()
#34 0xb6efc in calculate_some_scores ()
#35 0xaa4e4 in process_filter_patterns ()
#36 0xa8d08 in do_broach_folder ()
#37 0xfbc4c in main ()
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

>
> Basically -- I started up pine, it crashed.  I started up pine again, it
> worked.  4.33 on "SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc".
>
> I remembered (or rather, guessed and was right) how to get a real backtrace
> with a core file..
>
> Dunno if this leads anybody to a useful fix..
>
>
> /home/mattack % gdb /usr/local/bin/pine
> GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
>  under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
> GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6),
> Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> (gdb) core core
> Core was generated by `pine'.
> Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.

>From one who has absolutely no Mac experience,

"Bus error" is usually a reference to a hardware
difficulty, not software. And it's not a very
specific reference - it says that something on the
bus violated the bus protocols, and everything is
on the bus.

If you're running on a unix-like system, look in
places like /var/log/messages to see if there are
other traces of the event that give a hint of what
system was involved in the "Bus error". (Windows
has a thing called an "Event viewer" that
sometimes reveals a hint. Undoubtedly the Mac has
a place where it remembers things that might turn
out to be interesting.)

dan



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It looks like pine triggered an alarm signal for the busy spinner from
within malloc and then it re-entered malloc to print the message. So it
looks like it is pine's fault and we should be able to fix it for the next
release. Thanks for the stack trace.

(That's an unusual hostname for something running SunOS!)

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On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

>
> Basically -- I started up pine, it crashed.  I started up pine again, it
> worked.  4.33 on "SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc".
>
> I remembered (or rather, guessed and was right) how to get a real backtrace
> with a core file..
>
> Dunno if this leads anybody to a useful fix..
>
>
> /home/mattack % gdb /usr/local/bin/pine
> GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
>  under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
> GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6),
> Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> (gdb) core core
> Core was generated by `pine'.
> Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxnet.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-1/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/nss_files.so.1...done.
> #0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
> #1  0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
> #2  0x188000 in fs_get (size=81) at fs_unix.c:30
> #3  0x1875c4 in cpystr (
>     string=0x33dc18 "{vax.area.com/user=mattack}INBOX : Message 2691 UID 8870259 greater than last 56") at misc.c:68
> #4  0x8c980 in add_review_message ()
> #5  0x1206a4 in status_message_write ()
> #6  0x120bd0 in output_message ()
> #7  0x120434 in flush_status_messages ()
> #8  0x13deec in end_screen ()
> #9  0x1006bc in panic ()
> #10 0x11ebb0 in auger_in_signal ()
> #11 <signal handler called>
> #12 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
> #13 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
> #14 0x1ca4d8 in init_stack ()
> #15 0x1ca798 in tparm ()
> #16 0x13e0c0 in moveabsolute ()
> #17 0x13e2b0 in MoveCursor ()
> #18 0x120978 in status_message_write ()
> #19 0x11f67c in alarm_signal ()
> #20 <signal handler called>
> #21 0xef5c62bc in realfree ()
> #22 0xef5c6a94 in cleanfree ()
> #23 0xef5c5c1c in _malloc_unlocked ()
> #24 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
> #25 0x188000 in fs_get (size=3) at fs_unix.c:30
> #26 0x187654 in textcpy (dst=0x33c89c, src=0x3991f8) at misc.c:101
> #27 0x17d5bc in mail_fetch_header (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     lines=0xefffdcb8, len=0xefffdcb4, flags=10) at mail.c:1351
> #28 0x181afc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     pgm=0x3a5358) at mail.c:2973
> #29 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     pgm=0x3a5268) at mail.c:3009
> #30 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     pgm=0x3a51f0) at mail.c:3009
> #31 0x17ee8c in mail_search_default (stream=0x33c7e0,
>     charset=0xa3b <Address 0xa3b out of bounds>, pgm=0x3a51f0, flags=22)
>     at mail.c:1971
> #32 0x17ece4 in mail_search_full (stream=0x33c7e0, charset=0x0, pgm=0x3a51f0,
>     flags=22) at mail.c:1938
> #33 0x12dff4 in match_pattern ()
> #34 0xb6efc in calculate_some_scores ()
> #35 0xaa4e4 in process_filter_patterns ()
> #36 0xa8d08 in do_broach_folder ()
> #37 0xfbc4c in main ()
> (gdb)
>
>
> [email protected]
>
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote:

> "Bus error" is usually a reference to a hardware difficulty, not software.

Not necessarily. It's also the error you (can; depending on the arch) get when
you do unaligned accesses. Something like:

long * ptr = (char *) 0x3
*ptr = 1L;

       -Kenny


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On my desktop sytem, it appears that Pine outputs spaces all the way
to the right margin of the xterm window rather than outputting a
carriage return at the end of the actual text.  This may the expected
behavior when displaying the message index, but my complaint is that
it also happens when displaying the text of messages.  The problem is
that when I select text from the Pine window to paste into an editor,
I get all the extra spaces at the end.

This behavior began when I upgraded the desktop system from FreeBSD
4.2-RELEASE to FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE and, as part of that, upgraded Pine
from 4.33 to 4.44.  However, I still have the 4.33 accessible, and it
behaves the same as 4.44 on the new system.  So it must be some other
component of FreeBSD, right?  Not so fast...

I also have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE and Pine 4.44 where
the problem does not occur when running Pine locally.  Yet if I ssh
from the laptop to the desktop and run Pine on the desktop, the
problem occurs.  So it is not xterm or the X selection mechanism.

I concluded that the problem is extra spaces being output because if
in one xterm window I run Pine, then quit Pine, then run ls to
generate more output, and finally select text including some lines
that were part of the Pine display and some from the subsequent
command output, all the Pine lines extend to the right margin, but the
subsequent lines do not.

There were changes in the TERMCAP between FreeBSD 4.5 and 4.6, but I
copied the TERMCAP setting from the laptop and set it in a shell on
the desktop, and the problem still occurred.

The Pine 4.44 binaries are identical on both systems, as are the
libncurses.so.5 files.  TERMCAP I made the same.  The Pine
configuration files are the same.  What's left?

                                                       -- Steve

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Pine doesn't output linefeed characters at the ends of lines. Instead, it
clears the line, moves the cursor, and writes the characters where it
wants them. If you are using color and the termcap entry doesn't have back
color erase, then pine uses spaces to clear the line in the background
color. So maybe that is what is happening to you. It's worth a shot,
anyway. Try turning off color (Setup/Kolor, scroll to top, choose
no-color) and see if the problem goes away. One way to see what pine is
outputting to the screen is to run it inside a "script" session.

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Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Stephen Casner wrote:

> On my desktop sytem, it appears that Pine outputs spaces all the way
> to the right margin of the xterm window rather than outputting a
> carriage return at the end of the actual text.
> [...]

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