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I'm running Pine 4.21 on Solaris.

There is a monthly production process that sends
me several hundred e-mail messages. Pine rules
sort them into a couple local (my directories, not
on the imap server) mail folders, and I leaf
through them with the "n" key looking for
exceptions, speed is entirely satisfactory.

Now, with 1599 messages in the mailbox, I want to
get rid of last month's messages. In the folder
index, I type ahead many "d"s and it takes them
about one per second, or a little slower.

That speed was satisfactory when I was leafing
through the messages with "n", but now I just want
to get rid of the dead past.

Is there any way short of renaming the mailbox
files that would get rid of the old messages at a
suitable speed?

Maybe I should create a rule that would move
anything 45 days old out of those mailboxes into
/dev/null. At least that would run without me
having to shepherd a thousand cycles at one Hertz.

dan

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Try this instead

; d control+w mm/dd/yyyy a d x

Translation:

; = mark messages

d = based on "d"ate

control+w = change date to BEFORE (i.e. "I want to select all messages
dated BEFORE the date that I tell you"

mm/dd/yyyy = month/date/year, ie 6/30/2002

a = apply

d = delete

x = expunge

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Thanks.

I had to Enable_Aggregate_Commands before it would
work, but that feature does exactly what I wanted.

(Read some more help and turned on some other
"advanced" features, while I was there. Now we'll
see if I can remember to learn to use them.)

Again, thank-you Tim,
dan

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

>
> Try this instead
>
> ; d control+w mm/dd/yyyy a d x
>
>
> Translation:
>
> ; = mark messages
>
> d = based on "d"ate
>
> control+w = change date to BEFORE (i.e. "I want to select all messages
> dated BEFORE the date that I tell you"
>
> mm/dd/yyyy = month/date/year, ie 6/30/2002
>
> a = apply
>
> d = delete
>
> x = expunge
>
>
>
>

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From: Susan Dorsey <[email protected]>
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Hey all,

Just went from 4.40 to 4.44 yesterday and have been getting some
inconsistently strange results using control J to justify a paragraph.
Some of the time it works fine. More often nothing happens at all,
paragraph not justified, or "ufs" gets added to the beginning of every
line, overwriting or simply deleting three characters of the line.

This never happened with previous versions of Pine. Has anyone else seen
this? Or know why it's occurring?

Thanks.

Susan Dorsey

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From: Jeff Franklin <[email protected]>
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Susan Dorsey wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Just went from 4.40 to 4.44 yesterday and have been getting some
> inconsistently strange results using control J to justify a paragraph.
> Some of the time it works fine. More often nothing happens at all,
> paragraph not justified, or "ufs" gets added to the beginning of every
> line, overwriting or simply deleting three characters of the line.
>
> This never happened with previous versions of Pine. Has anyone else seen
> this? Or know why it's occurring?

Hi Susan,

There have been a couple of bugs that have been uncovered with justify in
4.44. The bugs have been fixed for the next release, but for the
meantime, if you want to apply the patch below, then the problem you
describe should go away.

Jeff

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Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington

-----------------
--- word.c~ 2001/10/18 20:13:04
+++ word.c 2002/03/05 04:01:56
@@ -372,11 +372,11 @@
{
register int i, n, j, qb;

+ *buf = '\0';
if(*q == '\0')
return(1);

- qb = q[strlen(q)-1] == ' ' ? 1 : 0;
- *buf = '\0';
+ qb = (strlen(q) > 1 && q[strlen(q)-1] == ' ') ? 1 : 0;
for(n = 0, j = 0; ;){
for(i = 0; j <= llength(l) && qb ? q[i+1] : q[i]; i++, j++)
if(q[i] != lgetc(l, j).c)
@@ -482,7 +482,7 @@

default :
if(spaces){ /* flush word? */
- if(line_len
+ if((line_len - qlen > 0)
&& line_len + word_len + 1 > fillcol
&& (line_len = fpnewline(qstr)))
line_last = ' '; /* no word-flush space! */
@@ -510,7 +510,7 @@

if(word_len + 1 >= NSTRING){
/* Magic! Fake that we output a wrapped word */
- if(line_len && !same_word++)
+ if((line_len - qlen > 0) && !same_word++)
line_len = fpnewline(qstr);

line_len += word_len;
@@ -527,7 +527,7 @@
}

if(word_len){
- if(line_len + word_len + 1 > fillcol)
+ if((line_len - qlen > 0) && (line_len + word_len + 1 > fillcol))
(void) fpnewline(qstr);
else if(line_len && !isspace((unsigned char) line_last))
linsert(1, ' ');

---------------------

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What is the status on Pine's support for Maildir?

I applied a patch [1] to a vanilla 4.44 source tree, and Pine seems
content enough to read Maildirs, but there are some issues:

1. I was forced to symlink 'mail' to 'Maildir'; I couldn't convince Pine
(short of digging into the source) to accept a user-configured
directory for the mail folders.

2. I can't (S)ave mail into Maildirs. Attempting this yields an error
message (">Unknown flag: U (garbage)<").

3. Is there any way to have Pine recognize Courier-IMAP's Maildir
subdirectory format in a coherent way? I.e.:

archive.foo
archive.bar
incoming.xyzzy
incoming.baz
blah.foo

should be rendered as:

INBOX/archive/foo
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I realize that I could have Pine work via an IMAP connection to 127.0.0.1,
but I'd like to get it working natively with Maildirs. Any comments?

[1]: http://www.kevindegraaf.net/mirror/pine4.44-Maildir.patch

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Is there any way to get Pine to quit asking whether I want to view the url. Of
course, I realize all I have to do is hit enter twice instead of once, but I'm
writing a script that will allow me to decide whether to save the url to a file
or go to it, the reasoning being that once I go to it I can bookmark it if I
want so don't need to also have it saved. that extra question about whether I
want to view the url is one I'd like to eliminate.

Thanks.

Cheryl

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Hello,

I use ELM in combination with PICO as my editor.
I prefer using all this simple ASCII stuff to anything
'more contemprorary'.

However, for a long time I have been living with the
following problem:

How to get rid of long attachments (from the
original postings to me) that stick to my reply.

The problem is that those (MIME) attachments
stick to my reply as ascii text.
On the other hand, PICO does not seem to provide
a command where I can select the whole piece of
text 'onwards till the EOF', which I could then
delete at one stroke.

So, basically the question is:

[either] how to avoid attachments to be automatically
added to the text of the message edited for reply
[this is of course concerned to ELM rather than PICO]

(or at least) how to reach the end of file in PICO without
scrolling through pages with ^V

Any help is much appreciated.

Alex Yakovlev

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On Jul 7, 2002 at 11:48, [email protected] wrote:

>On the other hand, PICO does not seem to provide
>a command where I can select the whole piece of
>text 'onwards till the EOF', which I could then
>delete at one stroke.

^6 (mark set)
^w (search)
^v (eobuffer)
^k (kill)

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Subject: uncontrollable delay after Xpunge
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I've mentioned this on the list before but didn't get a response...
it seems like there are a few pine developers reading and responding
at the moment so I figured I'd ask again.

When I hit 'x' to expunge (which I do all the time), for about 5 seconds
afterwards I can't do anything else, for instance compose a new message.
I believe this delay is because pine really wants to leave the "1 message
expunged from INBOX" message up for a given amount of time. I've dug
through the source a few times but haven't had a lot of luck tracking
down exactly what displays this message or where the length of time
is set. But I'd really love to see this delay go away... does anyone
have any insights for me?

Thanks.

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Gah! I slightly misspoke. Try expunging a message or two, then
pressing "g" right away to go to another folder. So "x g".
Then you'll see the delay.

scott

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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Scott Evans wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:13:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Scott Evans <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: uncontrollable delay after Xpunge
>
> I've mentioned this on the list before but didn't get a response...
> it seems like there are a few pine developers reading and responding
> at the moment so I figured I'd ask again.
>
> When I hit 'x' to expunge (which I do all the time), for about 5 seconds
> afterwards I can't do anything else, for instance compose a new message.
> I believe this delay is because pine really wants to leave the "1 message
> expunged from INBOX" message up for a given amount of time. I've dug
> through the source a few times but haven't had a lot of luck tracking
> down exactly what displays this message or where the length of time
> is set. But I'd really love to see this delay go away... does anyone
> have any insights for me?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> scott evans :: www.antisleep.com
>
>

I do not know what version of pine you are using, but I have (thus
far) been using 4.21 for Linux (shortly to convert to 4.33 (I think it
is), on a new system build), and I have found that when I expunge, the
filters fail, until the expunge is completed.

The filters in pine are great, but this bug with expunging, makes me too
scared to use it, as a rule. Ususally, when I forget, and, expunge a
folder, I usually regret it as soon as the filters fail, and the error
messages appear. I mainly use the expunging on the INBOX, as the other
folders expunge okay on simply switching folders, but, whenever I manually
expunge, using the x command, the problem occurs. I have somewhere around
70-80 filters, and a similar number of mail folders, and can get a
thousand or so messages in a day (mainly genealogy research and mailing
lists)

Has the bug been overcome in the latest version?

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I have used Pine for mail for years but only recently switched from tin to
Pine for news. I am having a little trouble adjusting.

I cannot seem to set a group to deleted or read. The problem is that each
of my groups has months and months worth of posts and I have to scroll
down to the current day which takes quite awhile.

The instructions on the Pine Web site:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/news.html#8.3

do not work for me.

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On 10 Jul 2002 Neil ([email protected]) wrote:
> I have used Pine for mail for years but only recently switched from tin to
> Pine for news. I am having a little trouble adjusting.
>
> I cannot seem to set a group to deleted or read. The problem is that each
> of my groups has months and months worth of posts and I have to scroll
> down to the current day which takes quite awhile.
>
> The instructions on the Pine Web site:
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/news.html#8.3
>
> do not work for me.

Rather than using

;AA*

which is what is suggested in FAQ 8.3, try this

;AAD

This means "Select All Apply Delete" and should work to "catchup"
(or "mark read") all messages in a newsgroup. I have lots of tips
for using Pine as a newsreader on my Power Pine page. Especially
useful are these two sections:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#speedNNTP>

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#tipsNNTP>

Good luck using Pine as a newsreader,
Nancy

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I apologize for the cross posting, but this is applicable to both lists.

Word from those higher above has it that we will be going to Maildir,
using courier imapd. This is all good & grand. However, we have a
handfull of extremely vocal users who use pine religously (this is not
bad - I love pine. You can't get enable-aggregate-command-set in
outlook!). After evaluating all the unoffical maildir patches, I have
decided that none of them quite meet our demands. Using pine as an imap
client looks like the way to go. However, that one little password
prompt will cause our group of pine users to go beZerk with a capital Z.
So, I started looking into passwordless authentication to localhost.

I came across Scott Leibrand's post at this site below:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html

And some similar information in the pine-info archives.
No luck with the courier archives.

All these assume the uw imap daemon. In docs/tech_notes from the pine
source, the following information appears about creating an /etc/rimapd
symlink to the actualy imapd binary:

With this configuration, the IMAP server runs without
pre-authentication. Each new IMAP connection requires a correct
username and password. IMAP can also be run with pre-authentication
based on the standard _rsh_ mechanism. To enable this, the user
account on the IMAP server must contain a valid file which grants
access to the client machine. Enabling _rimap_ authentication is done
by creating a link called /etc/rimapd to imapd. Basically, what is
happening is that _Pine_ is taking advantage of the ability that rsh
has to use privileged TCP ports so it doesn't have to run in
privileged mode. If the rimap authentication fails it will drop back
to plain password authentication.

I have successfully gotten this to work to my current uw imapd. From the
manpage for (courier) imapd (debian woody), I see the following
information:

imapd may also be invoked from the shell prompt, in which
case it issues a PREAUTH response, then changes the cur
rent directory to either its argument, or the contents of
the MAILDIR environment variable, then attempts to talk
IMAP on standard input and output.

which leads me to think I might be able to get this going similarily to
the uw post by Scott Leibrand. However, all my attempts so far have
failed.

Is it possible to get passwdless, key based ssh authentication from pine
to courier imapd?

Thanks in advance,
-Mark

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I apologize for the cross posting, but this is applicable to both lists.

Word from those higher above has it that we will be going to Maildir,
using courier imapd. This is all good & grand. However, we have a
handfull of extremely vocal users who use pine religously (this is not
bad - I love pine. You can't get enable-aggregate-command-set in
outlook!). After evaluating all the unoffical maildir patches, I have
decided that none of them quite meet our demands. Using pine as an imap
client looks like the way to go. However, that one little password
prompt will cause our group of pine users to go beZerk with a capital Z.
So, I started looking into passwordless authentication to localhost.

I came across Scott Leibrand's post at this site below:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html

And some similar information in the pine-info archives.
No luck with the courier archives.

All these assume the uw imap daemon. In docs/tech_notes from the pine
source, the following information appears about creating an /etc/rimapd
symlink to the actualy imapd binary:

With this configuration, the IMAP server runs without
pre-authentication. Each new IMAP connection requires a correct
username and password. IMAP can also be run with pre-authentication
based on the standard _rsh_ mechanism. To enable this, the user
account on the IMAP server must contain a valid file which grants
access to the client machine. Enabling _rimap_ authentication is done
by creating a link called /etc/rimapd to imapd. Basically, what is
happening is that _Pine_ is taking advantage of the ability that rsh
has to use privileged TCP ports so it doesn't have to run in
privileged mode. If the rimap authentication fails it will drop back
to plain password authentication.

I have successfully gotten this to work to my current uw imapd. From the
manpage for (courier) imapd (debian woody), I see the following
information:

imapd may also be invoked from the shell prompt, in which
case it issues a PREAUTH response, then changes the cur
rent directory to either its argument, or the contents of
the MAILDIR environment variable, then attempts to talk
IMAP on standard input and output.

which leads me to think I might be able to get this going similarily to
the uw post by Scott Leibrand. However, all my attempts so far have
failed.

Is it possible to get passwdless, key based ssh authentication from pine
to courier imapd?

Thanks in advance,
-Mark

>--))> >--))>
Mark T. Valites
Unix Systems Analyst
1 College Circle - 124b1 South Hall
SUNY Geneseo
Geneseo, NY 14454
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> I need an editor in single user, so I'd like to
> compile a copy of pico linked staticly.
>
> what do I need to do?

Too late to answer this? Try this:

cd pine-4.44/pico
make -f makefile.xxx clean
make CC="gcc -static" -f makefile.xxx

where xxx=your system, blah blah blah.

This is assuming you use gcc, of course.

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Hi there.

I've just tried opening a large (12M) email (uuencoded body text), and had
to kill pine from the command line. There were messages from malloc()
about recursive calls. Platform is: FreeBSD 4.4, Pine v 4.44. Anyone
else experienced this?

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On 10 Jul 2002 Mark T. Valites ([email protected]) wrote:
> Is it possible to get passwdless, key based ssh authentication from pine
> to courier imapd?

It seems that DreamHost has this setup. Check out the following
DH Knowledge Base article:

<https://kbase.newdream.net/index.cgi?area=1178>

Maybe Will (who works at DreamHost) will tell us more about the
technical details of setting this up.

I'm curious about this too...
Thanks,
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> It seems that DreamHost has this setup. Check out the following
> DH Knowledge Base article:
>
> <https://kbase.newdream.net/index.cgi?area=1178>
>
> Maybe Will (who works at DreamHost) will tell us more about the
> technical details of setting this up.
>

The setup from the original links I set works exactly as stated. I'm not
too sure about the DreamHost setup, but I would guess they're not running
courier imapd from the output of imapd

(* PREAUTH hoggle.dreamhost.com IMAP4rev1 2000.281 at Thu, 28 Mar 2002
17:13:48 -0800 (PST))

Getting it to work with uw imapd was no problem. I'd like to get it for
courier imapd though. It looks like it *should* go, but still no luck
after two days of banging away at it...

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On 12 Jul 2002 Mark T. Valites ([email protected]) wrote:
> > It seems that DreamHost has this setup. Check out the following
> > DH Knowledge Base article:
> >
> > <https://kbase.newdream.net/index.cgi?area=1178>
>
> The setup from the original links I set works exactly as stated. I'm not
> too sure about the DreamHost setup, but I would guess they're not running
> courier imapd from the output of imapd
>
> (* PREAUTH hoggle.dreamhost.com IMAP4rev1 2000.281 at Thu, 28 Mar 2002
> 17:13:48 -0800 (PST))
>
> Getting it to work with uw imapd was no problem. I'd like to get it for
> courier imapd though. It looks like it *should* go, but still no luck
> after two days of banging away at it...

DH is using Courier IMAP. For example:

telnet mail.dreamhost.com 143
Trying 66.33.208.155...
Connected to mail.dreamhost.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2002 Double Precision,
Inc. See COPYING for distribution information.

But, maybe they haven't updated that Knowledge Base article. Now
I'm really curious to find out the DreamHost details...

Thanks,
Nancy
who signed up for a DreamHost account because I too thought they
were using UW IMAP

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Subject: Problem with new version pine's compilation
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Hello

I have problem with compilation new (4.44) version of pine
on Solaris 2.7 with gcc

Such command by me has been given

"build CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc NOSSL NOLDAP so5

and such effect has been resulted:

dorota:3 ~/src/pine4.44% build CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc NOSSL NOLDAP so5
make args are 'CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc' so5

Making c-client library, imapd, and ipopd
eval make CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc SPECIALS= sol
Applying an process to sources...
tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
ln -s tools/an .
make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox'
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=none EXTRASPECIALS=''
BUILDTYPE=sol
make[1]: Entering directory `/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap'
Building c-client for sol...
echo `cat SPECIALS` > c-client/SPECIALS
cd c-client;make sol EXTRACFLAGS=''\
EXTRALDFLAGS=''\
EXTRADRIVERS='mbox'\
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=''\
PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=none\

make[2]: Entering directory
`/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox'
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=none `cat SPECIALS` OS=sol \
SIGTYPE=psx CHECKPW=psx CRXTYPE=nfs \
SPOOLDIR=/var/spool MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \
ACTIVEFILE=/usr/share/news/active \
RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh \
BASECFLAGS="-g -O2" \
BASELDFLAGS="-lsocket -lnsl -lgen" \
RANLIB=true CC=ucbcc
make[3]: Entering directory
`/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
sh -c 'rm -rf auths.c crexcl.c nfstest.c linkage.[ch] siglocal.c
osdep*.[ch] *.o ARCHIVE *FLAGS *TYPE c-client.a || true'
Once-only environment setup...
echo ucbcc > CCTYPE
echo -g -O2 '' > CFLAGS
echo -DCREATEPROTO=unixproto -DEMPTYPROTO=unixproto \
-DMAILSPOOL=\"/var/mail\" \
-DANONYMOUSHOME=\"/var/mail/anonymous\" \
-DACTIVEFILE=\"/usr/share/news/active\" -DNEWSSPOOL=\"/var/spool/news\" \
-DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -DLOCKPGM=\"/etc/mlock\" > OSCFLAGS
echo -lsocket -lnsl -lgen > LDFLAGS
echo "ar rc c-client.a mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o nntp.o
smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o
phile.o mh.o mx.o;true c-client.a" > ARCHIVE
/drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news phile
dummy
/mkauths md5 pla log
make[4]: Entering directory
`/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
echo -DMD5ENABLE=\"/etc/cram-md5.pwd\" >> OSCFLAGS
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
ln -s os_sol.h osdep.h
ln -s os_sol.c osdepbas.c
ln -s log_std.c osdeplog.c
ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c
ln -s crx_nfs.c crexcl.c
sh -c '(test -f /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h -a sol != sc5 -a sol != sco) &&
ln -s nfstnew.c nfstest.c || ln -s nfstold.c nfstest.c'
Standard password authentication
ln -s ckp_psx.c osdepckp.c
Building without SSL support
ln -s ssl_none.c osdepssl.c
cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c
/bin/sh: ucbcc: not found
make[3]: *** [mail.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
make[2]: *** [sol] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/export/home/pekasz/src/pine4.44/imap'
make: *** [sol] Error 2

The compilation goes further time, however no result with
created binaria has been achieved. Please help, how to

Piotr Kasztelowicz
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Try
build NOSSL NOLDAP gs5

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote:

> Hello
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> I have problem with compilation new (4.44) version of pine
> on Solaris 2.7 with gcc
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> Such command by me has been given
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> "build CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc NOSSL NOLDAP so5

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On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:

> Rather than using
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> This means "Select All Apply Delete" and should work to "catchup"
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Thanks for the help Nancy, your suggestion worked.

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Let's say I want to Reply to someone's message, and intersperse bits of another
message with the quoted text of the current one. How do I do that?

-Kenny

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:
> Let's say I want to Reply to someone's message, and intersperse bits of another
> message with the quoted text of the current one. How do I do that?

I don't know if Pine has a built-in facility for merging messages this
way. However, you can <E>xport the second message to a text file, then
<R>eply to the first message and <Ctrl-R> (in Pico) to insert the saved
text file into the current response.

Kiri

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Hi, Kenny, :)

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

> Let's say I want to Reply to someone's message, and intersperse bits
> of another message with the quoted text of the current one. How do I
> do that?

'Twould be nice if Pine had some facility like that, but I don't know
of any. I simply view the "another message" in Emacs and copy it to
the kill ring, yanking it back into the "current message" for the
reply.

I'd be thrilled if there was a more Piney method because I encounter
this fairly frequently...

---Jason
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http://www.sonos.org/

P.S. - I *sure* wish Pine had some kind of "background create" system
whereby Pine's interface would remain responsive while I edited a
message via an alternate editor.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

> Let's say I want to Reply to someone's message, and intersperse bits
> of another message with the quoted text of the current one. How do I
> do that?

This is kinda clunky: you have to navigate your way to the mailbox that
has the message to be included, and remember its ordinal (for eg, msg 12
of 42).

Then, in your reply text, (^R)ead (^W)InsertMessage and type in the
message number from above (in this example, 12). Pine will add the
reply-leadin, and quote the message you inserted with the
reply-indent-string

Wish item: Pine should let the user navigate to a mailbox, browse the
message index, and pick the message to be inserted.

--
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> Then, in your reply text, (^R)ead (^W)InsertMessage and type in the
> message number from above (in this example, 12).

Heh. This is a pico-specific method, eh?

-Kenny, who uses an alt-editor (vi)

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On 15 Jul 2002 Gopi Sundaram ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> Then, in your reply text, (^R)ead (^W)InsertMessage and type in the
> message number from above (in this example, 12). Pine will add the
> reply-leadin, and quote the message you inserted with the
> reply-indent-string

Another option if all the messages that you want to include in
your reply are in the same mailbox, is to go to the Message Index
of the mailbox and select each message using

:

Then "Apply Reply" by typing

A R

And include the original message my answering Yes to the next
question

Y

Then answer the rest of the questions and edit the headers and
the body as you like.

HTH,
Nancy

PS - you need to enable-aggregate-command-set to be able to do
this.

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Hi, Nancy, :)

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:

> Another option if all the messages that you want to include in your
> reply are in the same mailbox, is to go to the Message Index of the
> mailbox and select each message using

> :
>
> Then "Apply Reply" by typing
>
> A R
>
> And include the original message my answering Yes to the next
> question
>
> Y

Beautiful! Thanks! That helps a lot! Very smooth. Still wish I
could do something while composing, but this goes a long way towards
alleviating that need.

---Jason
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>From: Gopi Sundaram <[email protected]>
..
>Wish item: Pine should let the user navigate to a mailbox, browse the
>message index, and pick the message to be inserted.

Actually I wish there were a way to do something like:

1) select multiple messages through normal means
2) reply to both of them at once..

it would quote both messages, and I guess include all o the recipients (of
course one would have to be extra careful about sending the reply to the right
people).

Heck, I wish a newsreader had this too (I use trn for news).. It's often easier
to reply to parts of multiple messages in one reply. (This would be only
in one thread, for news.)

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On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:

> Another option if all the messages that you want to include in
> your reply are in the same mailbox, is to go to the Message Index
> of the mailbox and select each message using

Thanks! I'll try this.

-Kenny

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On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> Actually I wish there were a way to do something like:
>
> 1) select multiple messages through normal means
> 2) reply to both of them at once..

And it is so. Read Nancy's message yesterday.

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A user is telling me she has in the past used some feature in Pine to
compress and move email messages, but doesn't remember how she did it. I
can't find any commands in Pine which do this in the Help docs. Does
anyone know of this feature? Perhaps she was doing this at the command
line, but it seems unlikely...

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I have been trying to compile pine for mac os x with ssl for over
a week and I'm finally giving up and asking for help. Could
someone please post step-by-step instructions for how to do this.
I think part of my problem is that I have downloaded and
installed Josh Larios procompiled pine for mac os x with ssl (and
it worked!) and I've also installed OpenSSL via the Mac OS X
latest upgrade and also via Fink. So I'm afraid that these 3 SSLs
are causing problems with each other (or at least Pine's build is
confused). Also, if it matters, I'm using the latest Mulberry
with SSL and so I have yet another set of Certs in the Mulberry
directory.

I can do a

./build osx

with no problem. It's just when I do

./build SSLDIR=/System/Library/OpenSSL osx

that it doesn't work.

My conclusion from all this frustration is that 1) not very many
people have compiled pine for mac os x with ssl and 2) this is
way to hard for normal human beings.

Thank you very much,
Nancy

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Hey folks,

I've had it quite a few times with pine 4.44 now that I get tricked into
thinking I have new mail, when I really don't. Here's what happens:

I get new email. Pine notifies me in the status line something like:

New mail! From <someone> about <something I probably don't care about>

Something in the email piques my curiousity, and I go off to Galeon to
check it out.

When I come back (5 minutes later, give or take), the new mail
notification is still in the status line, even though I'm reading the
new mail that it's reporting, and opened it up 5 minutes ago. Is this
expected behavior? Shouldn't that notification disappear after a
certain time that's less than 5 minutes?

I don't remember this happening with previous versions, but I may be
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Joel Boonstra wrote:

> Something in the email piques my curiousity, and I go off to Galeon to
> check it out.

Why would you use two MUAs?

-Kenny, curious

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:

> I have been trying to compile pine for mac os x with ssl for over
> a week and I'm finally giving up and asking for help. Could

I took notes the last time I did this. They're now woefully out of date
(November of 2001) and I'm about to go through and do the whole thing over
again to see what's changed, but you're welcome to read what I've got
right now: http://staff.washington.edu/jdlarios/osx-pine-notes.html

I'll have new notes up for pine 4.44 and OS X 10.1.5 shortly. My problem
is that I'm never sure if the OS X powerbook I'm using has libraries and
headers installed that weren't part of the basic OS, so my instructions
work for me, but may not work for people who haven't added the same
things.

Anyway. I'll let you know when I've got a new version of that document.

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On 22 Jul 2002 Josh Larios ([email protected]) wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:
>
> > I have been trying to compile pine for mac os x with ssl for over
> > a week and I'm finally giving up and asking for help. Could
>
> I took notes the last time I did this. They're now woefully out of date
> (November of 2001) and I'm about to go through and do the whole thing over
> again to see what's changed, but you're welcome to read what I've got
> right now: http://staff.washington.edu/jdlarios/osx-pine-notes.html

Thank you for those notes, which I had read before I posted my
plea for help. I link to them, and your page with Pine and SSL
packaged for OS X, on my main Pine page, in this section

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#osx>

You are the first in the list! Yours, and all the other pages in
that section, are ones I that I've used to try to figure out how
to compile it myself. If anyone knows any other Pine OS X pages,
please tell me.

> I'll have new notes up for pine 4.44 and OS X 10.1.5 shortly. My problem
> is that I'm never sure if the OS X powerbook I'm using has libraries and
> headers installed that weren't part of the basic OS, so my instructions
> work for me, but may not work for people who haven't added the same
> things.
>
> Anyway. I'll let you know when I've got a new version of that document.

That would be great. If you need someone to test your newly
compiled Pine or your new notes, I'd be happy to do that. It
would be great if you could compile in the option to use a
PASSFILE -- that is the main reason that I don't want to use the
version of Pine that's on your site.

Thanks again,
Nancy

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> > Something in the email piques my curiousity, and I go off to Galeon to
> > check it out.
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> Why would you use two MUAs?

Galeon is my web browser (http://galeon.sf.net/). When I say something
'piques my curiousity', that means that there some URL or whatever that
I want to read up on, so I switch over to another app (and usually
another desktop) for awhile.

Sorry for being unclear -- I was trying to get across that I leave the
email open for potentially awhile, and when get around to reading email
again, the new mail notification is still there, even though the mail
has been open for awhile.

Does that clear things up?

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Hi List,
I wish sending previousle written emails to some people. I would like to
send them at various intervals. Can this process be done by Pine automated
by cron?
Pine should automatically insert text into message body from a subdir when
cron prompts for it.
Addresses should be witten into the Bcc field, the To is myself
Thanks
Kreorg

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Hey,

Can't find anything on this, but suspect it must be one of the
features I've chosen. I have something turned on in pine 4.44
in RedHat 7.2. which, when I've scrolled down near the end of a
post & hit the Page Down key, I'm brought to the next message.
I'd like it to just to to the end of the current message, but
hope I won't have to lose the use of the Page Down key to do it.

Is that a setting? If so, which ~is~ it?

Meph

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*** Meph Istopheles ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Can't find anything on this, but suspect it must be one of the
:) features I've chosen. I have something turned on in pine 4.44 in
:) RedHat 7.2. which, when I've scrolled down near the end of a post &
:) hit the Page Down key, I'm brought to the next message. I'd like it to
:) just to to the end of the current message, but hope I won't have to
:) lose the use of the Page Down key to do it.

You must disable [ ] enable-cruise-mode in your configuration screen.

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 [email protected] wrote:
>*** Meph Istopheles ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
>:) Can't find anything on this, but suspect it must be one of the
>:) features I've chosen. I have something turned on in pine 4.44 in
>:) RedHat 7.2. which, when I've scrolled down near the end of a post &
>:) hit the Page Down key, I'm brought to the next message. I'd like it to
>:) just to to the end of the current message, but hope I won't have to
>:) lose the use of the Page Down key to do it.
>
>You must disable [ ] enable-cruise-mode in your configuration screen.

This reminds me of something else that slightly bugs me about pine.

I wish there were some threshhold past which page-down would
not actually cause most of the screen to be blank when you paged down at
the end of a message.

This is HIGHLY subjective so I know not everyone would like it, and that's
also why I mention a threshhold, because there are cases where I wouldn't
like it either.

What I'm talking about is this..

If you're 95% through a message, and hit space, it pages down and you end
up with 2 lines at the top of the screen and the rest a blank screen.

I'm not sure what the threshhold should be, that's why I suggest it be
configurable.

A total absolute guess is -- if the screen will be less than 1/3 full,
then just scroll down to the bottom and leave the other 2/3 of the same
page visible.

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> A total absolute guess is -- if the screen will be less than 1/3 full,
> then just scroll down to the bottom and leave the other 2/3 of the same
> page visible.

And what about the massive number of blank lines that may follow a
message? Do they count as part of a blank screen? What if there are 511
characters on a single line, and you have word-wrapping? Or what if
those characters are whitespace?

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After way way too many hours spent at work this weekend, I took the whole
campus to Maildir format. I also set up pine to be an imap client to
localhost since I didn't like any of the unofficial patches.

For the most part, there have been very few complaints or problems. One
complaint that I'd like to fix is that the .pine-interrupted-mail gets
created when a user's connection dies (or elsewise), but it doesn't get
read when pine starts back up. Anyway to make pine look for this file
again?

And secondly, I've noticed some odd behavior with directories. I can no
longer hit enter to enter a directory, but have to hit "." to enter it.
Any way to make enter work again? Also, I cannot create directories in
pine with add(a), create directory(cntrl-x). It appears to work, but
actually does nothing - ideas?

Lastly, I don't seem to be able to enter a folder with ">" anymore. I
personally have always just hit enter to enter a folder, but some of my
users are (for once) used to following the directions at the bottom of the
screen & hitting ">". Can I make this behaviour return also?

Other than that, pine has been working well as an imap client. Users
haven't compained *too* much about the password prompt & I've been able to
lock it down well with my pine.conf.fixed.

Thanks in advance.
-Mark

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Hello all,

I've been trying to get pine to look into a mysql database to get users
password instead of using the PASSFILE. It all compiles great, but once
I run it, it give a SIGSEGV when it calls mysql_init().

It's been driving me nuts for 6 days. Can anyone help? Or even direct
me where I can get help on this?

Some info: gdb gives this:
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0xff2dd3c0 in convert_dirname ()
from /usr/local/services/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.10

Thanks

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*** Gopi Sundaram ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:
:)
:) > A total absolute guess is -- if the screen will be less than 1/3
:) > full, then just scroll down to the bottom and leave the other 2/3 of
:) > the same page visible.
:)
:) And what about the massive number of blank lines that may follow a
:) message? Do they count as part of a blank screen? What if there are 511
:) characters on a single line, and you have word-wrapping? Or what if
:) those characters are whitespace?

Actually Pine knows how many lines it is going to display at any time. I
have also been bothered by that type of behavior before, and there's a
simple modification (in the source code) that one can do to fix this.

Look at the function scrolltool in the file pine/mailview.c and look for
the command "MC_PAGEDN". Pine computes how many lines to scroll, and saves
that information in the "scroll_lines" variable. All you need to do, is to
make Pine recompute it again. Add the following line before the line
"cur_top_line += scroll_lines;" (do not delete anything)

scroll_lines = min(scroll_lines, scroll_text_lines() -
scroll_lines - cur_top_line);

That seems to work fine for me.

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> That seems to work fine for me.

Thanks.

-Kenny

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Greetings,
I'm in the process of setting up IMAP to work with Pine 4.44 on my
client server. Everything works fine, except that I'd like to be able to
not require my users to give a login and password to get to the IMAP
server. I found the posting for ssh at
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
but I haven't had any luck doing the equivalent steps under SSH2.

Here's what I tried:
Under a user login, I ran ssh-keygen on the client machine, leaving the
passphrase blank. It created the private key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a
and the public key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a.pub

I ftp'ed the id_dsa_1024_a.pub to the IMAP server and placed it under
~user/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_clientmachine.pub

According to the posting, from the client machine, I should be able to
type
ssh (I'm trying ssh2) my.imap.server
and connect without being asked for a password, but it continues to query
me for the password.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Joe DeBattista
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:

> Greetings,
> I'm in the process of setting up IMAP to work with Pine 4.44 on my
> client server. Everything works fine, except that I'd like to be able to
> not require my users to give a login and password to get to the IMAP
> server. I found the posting for ssh at
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
> but I haven't had any luck doing the equivalent steps under SSH2.
>
> Here's what I tried:
> Under a user login, I ran ssh-keygen on the client machine, leaving the
> passphrase blank. It created the private key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a
> and the public key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a.pub
>
> I ftp'ed the id_dsa_1024_a.pub to the IMAP server and placed it under
> ~user/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_clientmachine.pub
>
> According to the posting, from the client machine, I should be able to
> type
> ssh (I'm trying ssh2) my.imap.server
> and connect without being asked for a password, but it continues to query
> me for the password.

First, try running your ssh client with its debugging and/or logging turned
on, you can learn a lot that way.

Second, note that it is possible that the server's sshd is configured to
require both a public key and a password. Again, you'll get a glimpse of this
with the debugging output of your client.

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Joe,

You need to concatonate the public key onto a file called authorized_keys2
in the .ssh directory (or different depending on the ssh version you're
running....). It doesn't explicity say how to do it, but it does
say you need to in the link you posted. You can do this to make it work:

cat some_pub_key >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2

Check the permissions on all the ssh files though! ssh is picky (for good
reason about the perms). ssh -v -v -v won't pick up this problem for you,
but tailing the logs on the sshd machine will.

Once that works, the passworless ssh imapping to preauth'd imapd works
without any problem.

Now if only I could get this to go with the courier imap preauth imapd...

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:

> Greetings,
> I'm in the process of setting up IMAP to work with Pine 4.44 on my
> client server. Everything works fine, except that I'd like to be able to
> not require my users to give a login and password to get to the IMAP
> server. I found the posting for ssh at
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
> but I haven't had any luck doing the equivalent steps under SSH2.
>
> Here's what I tried:
> Under a user login, I ran ssh-keygen on the client machine, leaving the
> passphrase blank. It created the private key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a
> and the public key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a.pub
>
> I ftp'ed the id_dsa_1024_a.pub to the IMAP server and placed it under
> ~user/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_clientmachine.pub
>
> According to the posting, from the client machine, I should be able to
> type
> ssh (I'm trying ssh2) my.imap.server
> and connect without being asked for a password, but it continues to query
> me for the password.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Joe DeBattista
> UCSF, ITS
> INTERNET: [email protected]
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

>--))> >--))>
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Does it still use the authorized_keys file with ssh2?

Joe DeBattista
UCSF, ITS
INTERNET: [email protected]

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark T. Valites wrote:

> Joe,
>
> You need to concatonate the public key onto a file called authorized_keys2
> in the .ssh directory (or different depending on the ssh version you're
> running....). It doesn't explicity say how to do it, but it does
> say you need to in the link you posted. You can do this to make it work:
>
> cat some_pub_key >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
>
> Check the permissions on all the ssh files though! ssh is picky (for good
> reason about the perms). ssh -v -v -v won't pick up this problem for you,
> but tailing the logs on the sshd machine will.
>
> Once that works, the passworless ssh imapping to preauth'd imapd works
> without any problem.
>
> Now if only I could get this to go with the courier imap preauth imapd...
>
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> > I'm in the process of setting up IMAP to work with Pine 4.44 on my
> > client server. Everything works fine, except that I'd like to be able to
> > not require my users to give a login and password to get to the IMAP
> > server. I found the posting for ssh at
> > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
> > but I haven't had any luck doing the equivalent steps under SSH2.
> >
> > Here's what I tried:
> > Under a user login, I ran ssh-keygen on the client machine, leaving the
> > passphrase blank. It created the private key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a
> > and the public key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a.pub
> >
> > I ftp'ed the id_dsa_1024_a.pub to the IMAP server and placed it under
> > ~user/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_clientmachine.pub
> >
> > According to the posting, from the client machine, I should be able to
> > type
> > ssh (I'm trying ssh2) my.imap.server
> > and connect without being asked for a password, but it continues to query
> > me for the password.
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Joe DeBattista
> > UCSF, ITS
> > INTERNET: [email protected]
> >
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
> > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> >--))> >--))>
> Mark T. Valites
> Unix Systems Analyst
> 1 College Circle - 124b1 South Hall
> SUNY Geneseo
> Geneseo, NY 14454
> 585-245-5577
> 585-259-3471 (Cell)
> 585-245-5579 (Fax)
>
>

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authorized_keys2 with openssh2. I'm not sure about commercial ssh2 off
hand. ssh, the Definitice Guide from O'Reilly has it in there.
Unfortuneatly, it's at work & I'm not... I think commercial ssh uses
authorized_keys. There's only two, so try I guess...

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:

> Does it still use the authorized_keys file with ssh2?
>
>
> Joe DeBattista
> UCSF, ITS
> INTERNET: [email protected]
>
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark T. Valites wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > You need to concatonate the public key onto a file called authorized_keys2
> > in the .ssh directory (or different depending on the ssh version you're
> > running....). It doesn't explicity say how to do it, but it does
> > say you need to in the link you posted. You can do this to make it work:
> >
> > cat some_pub_key >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
> >
> > Check the permissions on all the ssh files though! ssh is picky (for good
> > reason about the perms). ssh -v -v -v won't pick up this problem for you,
> > but tailing the logs on the sshd machine will.
> >
> > Once that works, the passworless ssh imapping to preauth'd imapd works
> > without any problem.
> >
> > Now if only I could get this to go with the courier imap preauth imapd...
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > > I'm in the process of setting up IMAP to work with Pine 4.44 on my
> > > client server. Everything works fine, except that I'd like to be able to
> > > not require my users to give a login and password to get to the IMAP
> > > server. I found the posting for ssh at
> > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
> > > but I haven't had any luck doing the equivalent steps under SSH2.
> > >
> > > Here's what I tried:
> > > Under a user login, I ran ssh-keygen on the client machine, leaving the
> > > passphrase blank. It created the private key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a
> > > and the public key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a.pub
> > >
> > > I ftp'ed the id_dsa_1024_a.pub to the IMAP server and placed it under
> > > ~user/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_clientmachine.pub
> > >
> > > According to the posting, from the client machine, I should be able to
> > > type
> > > ssh (I'm trying ssh2) my.imap.server
> > > and connect without being asked for a password, but it continues to query
> > > me for the password.
> > >
> > > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe DeBattista
> > > UCSF, ITS
> > > INTERNET: [email protected]
> > >
> > > --
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
> > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >--))> >--))>
> > Mark T. Valites
> > Unix Systems Analyst
> > 1 College Circle - 124b1 South Hall
> > SUNY Geneseo
> > Geneseo, NY 14454
> > 585-245-5577
> > 585-259-3471 (Cell)
> > 585-245-5579 (Fax)
> >
> >
>
>

>--))> >--))>
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If you're using DSA keys then it's authorized_keys2 in openSSH.

As an aside, there's also a useful feature that make using passphrase-less
keys a bit more secure, eg:

from="<host>",command="exec /usr/local/libexec/imapd",no-pty,no-port-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding ssh-dss AAAAB3NzaC... pine key

Which forces SSHd to run the imap server whenever a login occurs using
your PINE key. That was if someone gets hold of the key, they can (only)
mess with my mail, not get shell access.

Scot

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark T. Valites wrote:

> authorized_keys2 with openssh2. I'm not sure about commercial ssh2 off
> hand. ssh, the Definitice Guide from O'Reilly has it in there.
> Unfortuneatly, it's at work & I'm not... I think commercial ssh uses
> authorized_keys. There's only two, so try I guess...
>
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:
>
> > Does it still use the authorized_keys file with ssh2?
> >
> >
> > Joe DeBattista
> > UCSF, ITS
> > INTERNET: [email protected]
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark T. Valites wrote:
> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > You need to concatonate the public key onto a file called authorized_keys2
> > > in the .ssh directory (or different depending on the ssh version you're
> > > running....). It doesn't explicity say how to do it, but it does
> > > say you need to in the link you posted. You can do this to make it work:
> > >
> > > cat some_pub_key >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
> > >
> > > Check the permissions on all the ssh files though! ssh is picky (for good
> > > reason about the perms). ssh -v -v -v won't pick up this problem for you,
> > > but tailing the logs on the sshd machine will.
> > >
> > > Once that works, the passworless ssh imapping to preauth'd imapd works
> > > without any problem.
> > >
> > > Now if only I could get this to go with the courier imap preauth imapd...
> > >
> > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Joe DeBattista wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > I'm in the process of setting up IMAP to work with Pine 4.44 on my
> > > > client server. Everything works fine, except that I'd like to be able to
> > > > not require my users to give a login and password to get to the IMAP
> > > > server. I found the posting for ssh at
> > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
> > > > but I haven't had any luck doing the equivalent steps under SSH2.
> > > >
> > > > Here's what I tried:
> > > > Under a user login, I ran ssh-keygen on the client machine, leaving the
> > > > passphrase blank. It created the private key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a
> > > > and the public key as ~user/.ssh2/id_dsa_1024_a.pub
> > > >
> > > > I ftp'ed the id_dsa_1024_a.pub to the IMAP server and placed it under
> > > > ~user/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_clientmachine.pub
> > > >
> > > > According to the posting, from the client machine, I should be able to
> > > > type
> > > > ssh (I'm trying ssh2) my.imap.server
> > > > and connect without being asked for a password, but it continues to query
> > > > me for the password.
> > > >
> > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe DeBattista
> > > > UCSF, ITS
> > > > INTERNET: [email protected]
> > > >
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> > >
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> > > Mark T. Valites
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> > > SUNY Geneseo
> > > Geneseo, NY 14454
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> > >
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I would like to do some mail folder maintenance. I am hoping there is
a command sequence within PINE which would make it easier than just using
an editor.

I have several folders which are getting well over a thousand messages in
them as I have been adding to them for a couple of years. What I want to
do is to divide a given folder into two folders so that one folder has all
the files which came prior to 2002 and the second would have all those
which cam since the end of 2001. For example, say I have a folder named
"courses." I would like to have two folders one named "courses01" and the
other "courses." Next year I might divide the current "courses" into
"courses02" and "courses."

Is there a way to "S" a sequential set of messages at once? Or "D" a set?
That would solve my problem.

I am running PINE 4.43 on Sun Solaris 2.8. I tried Help, but did not find
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On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Arthur Snoke wrote:

> Is there a way to "S" a sequential set of messages at once? Or "D" a
> set? That would solve my problem.

Make sure that in the config screen, you have this option set:

[X] enable-aggregate-command-set

After that, in your folder, (;)Select (D)ate, type in the date range.
Then (A)pply (S)ave and type in the mailbox name to save your messages
to.

At each stage, look at the bottom of the screen for interesting options
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Hi,

I have pine set up with a mbx inbox (I created a mailbox INBOX in my home
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