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On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Bosko Radivojevic wrote:

> I'm trying to set-up Roles. Everything is ok, except I'm not able to
> remove Sender line from headers. I know, I can patch the source, but I
> hope there is some 'legal' way to do this. Some hints?

If there was a legal way to do it, I wouldn't have bothered to make a
patch :-)

PINE is pretty aggressive about making sure the Sender: line is present
whenever it even *thinks* that it should be.

TjL

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When trying to compile Pine4.33 I see the following errors.

env_unix.c:296: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without
a cast

make: *** [pico] Error 1

make: *** No rule to make target `../c-client/c-client.a', needed by
`pine'. Stop.

Links to executables are in bin directory:
size: bin/pine: No such file or directory
size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory
size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory
size: bin/pico: No such file or directory
size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory
Done

I am using Mandrake 8.1 and have used the "build sl5" command.

Thanks for any help.

-sb

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Hi,
I have a problem with opening the inbox. When pine is started it takes
ages to open my local inbox. Also when teh inbox is empty. Can anybody
help me?

Peter
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From: "Cornelius C. Noack" <[email protected]>
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On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Peter Grond wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a problem with opening the inbox. When pine is started it takes
> ages to open my local inbox. Also when teh inbox is empty. Can anybody
> help me?
>
> Peter
>
I guess this depends on where your INBOX gets its mail from. I connect
to an IMAP server via modem, and I also have a long wait; but thats the
dial-in process that takes its time to open the mailbox at the IMAP
server. Once I am connected, if I close pine and reopen it later,
the INBOX is there very quickly.

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
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*** Peter Grond ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) I have a problem with opening the inbox. When pine is started it takes
:) ages to open my local inbox. Also when teh inbox is empty. Can anybody
:) help me?

Sounds like a you are using rsh to connect to your server. Edit your
pinerc and make sure that you set

rsh-open-timeout=0

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From: Murphy <[email protected]>
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Subject: The COLLECTION LIST again
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Hi,

I defined the different collection list, each one for the different news groups:

1) Nickname:NEWS-SONY
Server:news.sonytel.be/nntp
Path:#news.
View:

2) Nickname : News Wroc�aw
Server : news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/service=NNTP
Path : #news.
View:

On the Collection List it looks like this:

NEWS - SONY
News groups on news.sonytel.be/nntp

News Wroc�aw
News groups on news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/service=NNTP

The problem is that if go into a 1) and add some news lists like this:

sony.sysadm
sony.utilities

then I add some news lists from 2) like:

pl.rec.gry.komputerowe.sprzet

I should have the such entries in each Folder List for each collection:

News groups on news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/service=NNTP
------------------------------------------------------------------------

pl.rec.gry.komputerowe.sprzet

News groups on news.sonytel.be/nntp
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sony.sysadm
sony.utilities

But in fact in each collection I have all entries (all 3 news lists). It causes
the usage of each news list because from the collection 1) I can't access to
the "pl.*" news lists, and from collection 2) - to the "sony.*" lists.

I think it should be separated because otherwise it mess up the things which
should be separated. Is there a way to set it correctly, to have each
collection consist with only the elements (news-list) which belongs to this
NNTP server?

Regards,
Murphy

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When I open pine in ReadOnly mode, I receive no
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I like readonly mode since it preserves flags
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I ssh to my mail server and read mail there.
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My inbox-path is = <No Value Set: using "inbox">

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Is there a plan to implement a better/more robust reply system?

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I know mutt/emacs have this capability, but I like PINE

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Is it possible that you (or your site) have the

reply-always-uses-reply-to

option set?

-teg

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

>
> Is there a plan to implement a better/more robust reply system?
>
> For example, I am on some mailing lists where the reply-to points to the
> list, and sometimes want to reply to the poster, and vice versa.
>
> I know mutt/emacs have this capability, but I like PINE
>
> TjL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Hello,

I have an inbox with 29,000 message how can I move this to a new
folder with out to much work? Thanks for any help!

Todd

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On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Todd Miller wrote:

> I have an inbox with 29,000 message how can I move this to a new
> folder with out to much work? Thanks for any help!

I converted my old, 14MB mailx-style "mbox" to an imap folder in pine by

- getting the "current view" to be that large folder
- ; a (select all)
- a s (apply/save)
- type the name of the destination folder
- be prepared to wait

also, if want to, you can do an

- a d (apply/delete)

To delete the source messages.

-Kenny

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On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Terry Gray wrote:

> Is it possible that you (or your site) have the
>
> reply-always-uses-reply-to
>
> option set?

Well yes, because otherwise it's pretty annoying to always have to confirm
it.

I want to be able to do something like

r = reply
alt+r = reply to sender
cntl+r = reply to list
shift+r = reply to both

TjL

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Hi there: I have recently migrated my Pine from SUN/Solaris to a PC
running Redhat7.2. It's gone pretty well, but I have two little things
which are bugging the hell out of me. I've looked through all the
documentation I can find, but with no success. I would appreciate very
much any advice anyone might have. Both problems are to do with
"replying".

1) When I reply and include the text of the message, I would like it to
leave a couple of lines blank for my reply; currently it doesn't give me
any space at all.

2) When I "reply to all recipients", it includes me in the list of
recipients, which I don't want.

These are probably pretty simple things but very annoying ... many thanks

Terry Bridges
AAO Sydney

ps. I really should say that I think Pine is a marvellous email tool ...
and I had no idea it had so many features until I started poking around!

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On (2002-06-06 16:07) Todd Miller wrote:

:)Hello,

Hello,

:)
:)I have an inbox with 29,000 message how can I move this to a new
:)folder with out to much work? Thanks for any help!

select them all (press ; then A) and then type A S and select the
destination folder to which you want to move them
then press X to expunge them from your inbox

regards/Bertrand

:)
:)Todd
:)

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*** Terry Bridges ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) 1) When I reply and include the text of the message, I would like it to
:) leave a couple of lines blank for my reply; currently it doesn't give me
:) any space at all.

I guess you are a top poster. Always use a role and define a template file
in that role.

:) 2) When I "reply to all recipients", it includes me in the list of
:) recipients, which I don't want.

Add the e-mail address that is being included in the reply that you are
composing to the alt-addresses configuration option.

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You can even sort it some while you are at it:

Create Rules that recognize pieces of mail in the
INBOX and move them to different mailboxes.

dan

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Todd Miller wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have an inbox with 29,000 message how can I move this to a new
> folder with out to much work? Thanks for any help!
>
> Todd
>

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I frequently access my mail from multiple
computers simultaneously. I use mbx format to
make sure that I don't have locking problems.

However, Pine doesn't appear to want to deal with
mbx addressbooks. Any solutions?

-Alex-

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If I want to specify the date: header explicitly
how do I do that?
Adding "date:" to custom headers does not appear
to work.

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On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote:

> If I want to specify the date: header explicitly
> how do I do that?

No way other than patching the source code

> Adding "date:" to custom headers does not appear
> to work.

Nope, because Pine will re-write it regardless, and I think 'Date' is on
the 'banned headers' list anyway.

I'd suggest adding an X-Date: header if you really want to add the date,
but of course I'm guessing that won't do what you want to do... then again
I don't know why you want to do what you want to do.

Perhaps a more helpful approach would be to ask why you want to add the
date manually, and then I might be able to offer a better suggestion.

TjL

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I like to sort my mail by date.
Dates in the future are effectively appointment
reminders.
I can write a script to mail me stuff with an
arbitrary date header. I don't see why I
shouldn't be able to override Pine's date with my
own.

-Alex-

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote:
>
> > If I want to specify the date: header explicitly
> > how do I do that?
>
> No way other than patching the source code
>
>
> > Adding "date:" to custom headers does not appear
> > to work.
>
> Nope, because Pine will re-write it regardless, and I think 'Date' is on
> the 'banned headers' list anyway.
>
> I'd suggest adding an X-Date: header if you really want to add the date,
> but of course I'm guessing that won't do what you want to do... then again
> I don't know why you want to do what you want to do.
>
> Perhaps a more helpful approach would be to ask why you want to add the
> date manually, and then I might be able to offer a better suggestion.
>
> TjL
>
>
>
>

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Sorry if this isn't the correct place to send this, but pico is packaged
with pine, and I couldn't find any mailing list specifically for pico.

This has been bothering me for about 2 years now. When you press
Control-s in pico, the terminal freezes up. You can't kill it with
control-c, control-d, control-z, or anything else that I could find. You
have to switch to a new terminal and kill the job (and sometimes that
doesn't even restore the terminal).
This is particularly bad because in emacs, control-s is the command key
for searching. So I often hit it accidently in pico, when I meant to do
control-w.
I hope that someone can fix this bug, and I'd be happy if someone could
tell me if there's a fix I could use to stop this from happening.

-John

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On (2002-06-10 09:52) [email protected] wrote:

:)Sorry if this isn't the correct place to send this, but pico is packaged
:)with pine, and I couldn't find any mailing list specifically for pico.
:)
:)This has been bothering me for about 2 years now. When you press
:)Control-s in pico, the terminal freezes up. You can't kill it with
:)control-c, control-d, control-z, or anything else that I could find. You
:)have to switch to a new terminal and kill the job (and sometimes that
:)doesn't even restore the terminal).
:)This is particularly bad because in emacs, control-s is the command key
:)for searching. So I often hit it accidently in pico, when I meant to do
:)control-w.
:)I hope that someone can fix this bug, and I'd be happy if someone could
:)tell me if there's a fix I could use to stop this from happening.

hello,

I think that this is not a PICO problem, if you are using pine
within a UNIX/Linux terminal, CTRL S means to freeze the terminal,
so PICO has nothing to do here. To unlock it you just need to press
CTRL Q.

hope this will help you

regards/Bertrand

:)
:)-John
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, [email protected] wrote:
>This has been bothering me for about 2 years now. When you press
>Control-s in pico, the terminal freezes up.

You can unfreeze it using CTRL+Q

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Oh, you're right. I hadn't known about control-q.

thanks!

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Bertrand PEREZ (REE) wrote:

> On (2002-06-10 09:52) [email protected] wrote:
>
> :)Sorry if this isn't the correct place to send this, but pico is packaged
> :)with pine, and I couldn't find any mailing list specifically for pico.
> :)
> :)This has been bothering me for about 2 years now. When you press
> :)Control-s in pico, the terminal freezes up. You can't kill it with
> :)control-c, control-d, control-z, or anything else that I could find. You
> :)have to switch to a new terminal and kill the job (and sometimes that
> :)doesn't even restore the terminal).
> :)This is particularly bad because in emacs, control-s is the command key
> :)for searching. So I often hit it accidently in pico, when I meant to do
> :)control-w.
> :)I hope that someone can fix this bug, and I'd be happy if someone could
> :)tell me if there's a fix I could use to stop this from happening.
>
>
> hello,
>
> I think that this is not a PICO problem, if you are using pine
> within a UNIX/Linux terminal, CTRL S means to freeze the terminal,
> so PICO has nothing to do here. To unlock it you just need to press
> CTRL Q.
>
> hope this will help you
>
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>
> :)
> :)-John
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>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:01:33 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
>From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>I frequently access my mail from multiple
>computers simultaneously. I use mbx format to
>make sure that I don't have locking problems.

What am I missing? IMAP inherently supports accessing mail from
multiple sites simultaneously.

>However, Pine doesn't appear to want to deal with
>mbx addressbooks. Any solutions?

I don't know this part, about a shared addressbook.

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On 7 Jun 2002 S. Alexander Jacobson ([email protected]) wrote:
> However, Pine doesn't appear to want to deal with
> mbx addressbooks. Any solutions?

A while ago (maybe over a year ago), I experimented with using
c-client MBX format for my remote address books and also could
not get it to work. I posted about my problem either here or in
comp.mail.pine and got a reply from the UW team saying that it
worked for them. I didn't pursue the problem and I don't have
time to do some experiments now. Here are some things that might
affect the situation.

* What is the default mailbox format on you IMAP server? If it is
Unix spool (mbox), then maybe that is part of the problem
(although it seems like it shouldn't be but that might be a
difference between our setups and the UW setup)

* How did you create the abook.cMBX (remote abook in cMBX
format)?

* How did you try to populate it with an address book?

* How did you set up Pine to access this abook? I recommend
directly editing the pinerc rather than using Pine's config
screens because I've had false error messages when using Pine's
config screens to set up a remote address book that already
exists on the server.

HTH,
Let us know if you figure anything out,
Nancy

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In PC-Pine 4.44, if I use dialog boxes and type $ to sort, the
dialog box looks like this

( ) Arrival ( ) From
( ) Subject ( ) To
( ) Ordered Subject ( ) Cc
( ) Size ( ) Date
[ ] Reverse Sort

Note that there is no option to sort by thread.

Also, it would be really great if there were a way to select the
radio buttons and check box using the keyboard, e.g., type Z to
select the siZe radio button.

Thanks,
Nancy

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:

> In PC-Pine 4.44, if I use dialog boxes and type $ to sort, the
> dialog box looks like this
>
> ( ) Arrival ( ) From
> ( ) Subject ( ) To
> ( ) Ordered Subject ( ) Cc
> ( ) Size ( ) Date
> [ ] Reverse Sort
>
>
> Note that there is no option to sort by thread.

Hi Nancy,

This has been fixed in the next version (and sort by Score has been added
too).

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Hi, does anybody know how can I subscribe to the "for sale" mailing list?
I did not know the formal list name, if anybody could help, it will be
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I am running Pine v4.33 on Solaris 8. While attempting to open certain
messages with (as of yet unopened) attachments, pine segmentation faults.
(Under csh this will leave the user with a frozen prompt, while under
tcsh the prompt is still usable.)

The messages have the following in common:
Most have been sent by the klez virus
Most have html attachments (all have attachments)
All appear to have come from a Windows machine

After sifting through the pine newsgroup I've found mention of html
attachments causing Pine v4.02 to seg fault. Somebody also mentioned that
Microsoft doesn't always follow the Mime standard.

Knowing that Klez propagates through Mime encoded html attachments by
exploiting Microsoft Outlook, I'd like to know if Pine is still (as of
v4.33) vulnerable to html attachments. Also, if Outlook is malforming
the Mime headers, could this cause v4.33 to crash?

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

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Yes, like Nancy said, it does work for us. I'm wondering if you are able
to read the folder as a regular mail folder using pine. For example, you
do something like

Goto {imap.server}remote_addressbook

and then look at the messages. Since a remote addressbook is a regular
mail folder that ought to work. Thanks.

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> When I open pine in ReadOnly mode, I receive no
> notification of new messages, and I must exit/restart
> pine to see them (this is the pop3 behavior, iirc)

This is the expected behavior with the traditional UNIX mailbox format
(and also MMDF format). Pine does not lock the mailbox when it is
readonly (to allow some other process to open it readwrite), and as a
result Pine can't handle any changes to the mailbox.

You'll probably notice that if a readwrite process changes the mailbox a
readonly Pine session dies a horrid death.

> I like readonly mode since it preserves flags
> (netscape won't filter mail if I've already read it in
> Pine). Is there a way to get both readonly AND new
> mail notification?

Not in traditional UNIX mailbox format.

The alternative mbx format has a more advanced form of locking which
allows multiple sessions to interoperate, including readonly sessions.

-- Mark --

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Hello all,
I am a Slackware Linux 8.0 user, When I first installed Pico was ok
Now I get command not found what could be wrong

HELP

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Actually Pico stopped working when I rebooted the system

( I am using Slackware Linux 8.0 my Pico suddenly failed=20
I get error command not found )

Ken

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I have messages sorted into a number of mailboxes (like, 30) on my server,
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PC-Pine handles this like a champ. The only problem is telling which
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Usually I log into my webmail program to see what mailboxes have unread
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I'd like to compile a copy of pico staticly to use
in a recovery environment. how would I go about
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Hi,

I've setup a caching NNTP proxy (Delegate) to access various newsgroups,
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When I access the newsgroup with either Free Agent (Win95) or KNode
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FreeBSD 4.4-release
pine 4.44

I need an editor in single user, so I'd like to
compile a copy of pico linked staticly.

what do I need to do?

Thanks

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Is there any way to re-send a message that is already in sent-mail other than:
a. exporting it, editing it and then inserting it in a new message; or
B. using forward; or
c. using reply and including the text of the message.
I'd like to just be able to re-send something that didn't get a reply before.
C isn't too bad; you just have to do a little editing but wondered if
there was an easier way.
thanks.

Cheryl
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From: Robert Larmon <[email protected]>
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You could always Bounce/Redirect the message. Type B, then the address to
which you want to send it.

Robert

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Is there any way to re-send a message that is already in sent-mail other than:
> a. exporting it, editing it and then inserting it in a new message; or
> B. using forward; or
> c. using reply and including the text of the message.
> I'd like to just be able to re-send something that didn't get a reply before.
> C isn't too bad; you just have to do a little editing but wondered if
> there was an easier way.
> thanks.
>
> Cheryl
> >
>
>
>

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` Robert Larmon `
` PC Systems Analyst `
` USC Law School Computing Services `
` [email protected] `
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Save to the postponed folder, then go Compose.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

:>Is there any way to re-send a message that is already in sent-mail other than:
:>a. exporting it, editing it and then inserting it in a new message; or
:>B. using forward; or
:>c. using reply and including the text of the message.
:>I'd like to just be able to re-send something that didn't get a reply before.
:>C isn't too bad; you just have to do a little editing but wondered if
:>there was an easier way.
:>thanks.
:>
:> Cheryl
:>>
:>
:>
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I recently configured my pine to use ldap queries implicitly ...

My ldap servers do not return the mail-host/domain with an email query,

so I get "john doe" <jdoe@missing-hostname>

Is there a way to get pine to use the 'user-domain' as it does with
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Posted and copied on Yahoo INTC board by
slaptwins Neil.
First Time Poster
by: slaptwins (50/M/Phoenix Arizona)
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 06/18/02 03:52 pm
Msg: 313236 of 313259

There is a price for reading some of my messages.
I have posted on the Primedia board but this
board INTC is different. This is serious. This is
historic.
The following link pertains to the stock.
http://www.intel.com/ebusiness/news/sia.htm
Tomorrow.
The price is my opinion about the internet.
The computer industry should have bought up the
television and radio broadcasters.
-The radio stations have been packaged into
several companies but I am not familiar with the
companies.-
Instead the internet situation now is one of
legal limbo.
For posting purposes I think my opinion would be
against the internet, against Windows upgrades
and against open source software programming. But
that is just an off the record comment.
Maybe internet computers should have
indentification software!!
I once had an amateur radio license WB2VBQ. It
expired.
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1) Are there *any* voice recognition programs that work well with PC-Pine?

and if so

2) What voice recognition programs have people had success with?

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Cheryl:

You might already knw this, but be sure to go into your setup menu and
enable the bounce commandbefore you try to bunce a message. Hope this
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Hey pine-ers,

In general, it's good practice to encrypt replies to encrypted messages
you receive. With pine, however, the only way that I know of to do that
is to remember that the message you're replying to is encrypted, and
then manually cycle your sending-filter to the appropriate one just
before sending.

Is there a better option, to ensure that I don't accidentally send out
an unencrypted reply (potentially containing sensitive quoted stuff) to
an email that was originally encrypted? My instinct says "no", since
pine doesn't really know anything about encryption -- it just knows when
to invoke display filters and sending filters.

One option might be to have procmail add some headers to encrypted
messages, and then have pine notice those headers when replying and
automatically apply a sending filter. I don't know of a way to convince
pine to do this, though.

Anything I've overlooked? Have other people run against this problem at
all? If so, how have you solved it (besides just training yourself to
be smarter ;)?

Thanks!

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I am using both linux pine (RH 7.2 and 7.3) and pc-pine and my ISP is
going to change to smtp-auth soon. I searched the archives about my
problem, but found only the thread about yahoo!'s implemantation.
The mailhost offers me the following:
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN

But when trying to send mail, I receive
[>SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN<]

I tried disabling the other authentification modules like
#disable-these-authenticators=CRAM-MD5
#disable-these-authenticators=GSSAPI
#disable-these-authenticators=LOGIN

but still cannot send using AUTH=PLAIN.

Is there any documentation on that I haven't found yet ?

TIA,

Steffan Henke

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From: Mark Crispin <[email protected]>
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Steffan Henke wrote:
> The mailhost offers me the following:
> 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
>
> But when trying to send mail, I receive
> [>SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN<]

This is just a warning. The specification for the AUTH=PLAIN SASL
authentication mechanism indicates that it is only allowed in encrypted
(SSL or TLS) sessions, because bad guys can snoop on your password.

If you are getting an error message saying "SMTP Authentication
cancelled", the actual problem has nothing to do with that warning, but is
instead a bug in that server.

An unsupported patch to qmail which implements SMTP-SASL has a known bug
that renders it non-compliant with the specification (RFC 2554, RFC 2222).

The qmail developers have asked me to emphasize that this is *not* a bug
in qmail, but rather in an unsupported patch that they have nothing to do
with.

The unsupported patch to qmail issues an erroneous response which causes
the authentication to be cancelled. This problem will affect AUTH=GSSAPI
and AUTH=PLAIN, but will not affect AUTH=CRAM-MD5 or AUTH=LOGIN.

Supposedly, the author of the unsupported patch has issued an update which
will fix this.

> I tried disabling the other authentification modules like
> #disable-these-authenticators=CRAM-MD5
> #disable-these-authenticators=GSSAPI
> #disable-these-authenticators=LOGIN
> but still cannot send using AUTH=PLAIN.

Don't disable CRAM-MD5 or GSSAPI or LOGIN.

Try disabling PLAIN instead. That will force it to use LOGIN which should
work.

-- Mark --

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From: Steffan Henke <[email protected]>
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Mark Crispin wrote:

> If you are getting an error message saying "SMTP Authentication
> cancelled", the actual problem has nothing to do with that warning, but is
> instead a bug in that server.

Mark,

the MTA used is exim.

> Don't disable CRAM-MD5 or GSSAPI or LOGIN.
> Try disabling PLAIN instead. That will force it to use LOGIN which should
> work.

Great - that did the trick ! Thx alot, really appreciate your help.

Regards,

Steffan