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I wanted to post an answer to my previous Pine problem so that it will
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SYMPTOM:
A Unix version of Pine stalls when accessing a folder on an msdos
partition. After a while it goes in to
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mode. Finally it does access the folder but it takes way to long for
practical usage.
CAUSE:
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lock files. If the mailbox exists on the msdos (e.g. some kind of FAT)
partition it can't set the permissions on the file (because msdos file
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in /pinesrc/imap/src/osdep/unix/. You need to be a little careful because
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platform). A good way to verify this is by deleting the file crx_nfs.c to
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to set this option at build-time by,
/build <build_name> CRXTYPE=std <... other options>
Either way, rebuild and see if it works (it did for me).
CAUTIONARY
I have no sense of the security issues associated with this change.
OPED
Unix pine with mailboxes on a FAT partition is a sweet way to share
mailboxes across partitions on a multiboot computer.
Thanks again Eduardo,
Brian
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I am using Procmail to create two different .mbx folders
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These two folders belong to 2 different users:
/home/requests/incoming.mbx, and
/home/confirm/confirmation.mbx
My problem is that when I send messages from either of these
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if I specify a different one in Config, they both send it there).
Is there a way to prompt the user for the fcc location, or better yet to
determine fcc location based on which .mbx folder the user is in?
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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Marci Burgess wrote:
> Is there a way to prompt the user for the fcc location, or better yet
> to determine fcc location based on which .mbx folder the user is in?
I'm not sure if what I'm saying is available in 4.21, but it works in
the latest version (4.44)
Set up roles for each folder with the following settings:
Current Folder Type = Specific (specify the mbx mailbox here)
Set Fcc: (specify the Fcc mailbox for this role)
Tweak the remaining setings for your preferences.
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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Marci Burgess wrote:
> I am using Procmail to create two different .mbx folders
> which several users access at the same time.
>
> These two folders belong to 2 different users:
> /home/requests/incoming.mbx, and
> /home/confirm/confirmation.mbx
>
> My problem is that when I send messages from either of these
> .mbx folders, Pine fcc's to the same folder (sent-mail is the default, or
> if I specify a different one in Config, they both send it there).
>
> Is there a way to prompt the user for the fcc location, or better yet to
> determine fcc location based on which .mbx folder the user is in?
>
> Any help is much apprecited!
Perhaps what you want is this in the pine config:
fcc-name-rule =
Set Rule Values
--- ----------------------
<----- snip ----->
( ) current-folder
Tony
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Hi,
I recently received an HTML encoded email which pine did not render using
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The key difference between this email and another which was rendered as
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Is this a bug or a feature?
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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Tony Tung wrote:
> expected was a line in the header "Mime-Version: 1.0". In fact, when I
> added this line to the incorrectly-rendered email's header, it worked
> fine.
>
> Is this a bug or a feature?
It is a bug for a HTML message to lack a Mime-Version header.
It is a feature for a mail reader to assume a message is plain text
if the message is not properly labeled as anything else. Lack of a
Mime-Version header means that the message was not properly labeled.
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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jacob Morzinski wrote:
> On Thu, 2 May 2002, Tony Tung wrote:
> > expected was a line in the header "Mime-Version: 1.0". In fact, when I
> > added this line to the incorrectly-rendered email's header, it worked
> > fine.
> >
> > Is this a bug or a feature?
>
> It is a bug for a HTML message to lack a Mime-Version header.
>
> It is a feature for a mail reader to assume a message is plain text
> if the message is not properly labeled as anything else. Lack of a
> Mime-Version header means that the message was not properly labeled.
Ah, I see.
Is there some RFC or documentation concerning this that I can present to
the sender of the mail?
Thanks.
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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Tony Tung wrote:
> Is there some RFC or documentation concerning this that I can present to
> the sender of the mail?
The most directly relevant documentation is RFC 2045, the MIME
specification. Section 4 specifies:
Messages composed in accordance with this document MUST include such
a header field, with the following verbatim text:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Most mail readers know how to decode MIME-compliant messages, but
a message that doesn't even _label_ itself as mime-compliant is
certainly not compliant.
(A Content-Type header by itself isn't good enough because there is
more than one type of Content-Type headers, _even for email_, and the
mail reader doesn't know which way to interpret the header until told
that the message is MIME.)
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I read at
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that "Rules-based filtering can now set message state (Important, Deleted,
..)". However, I can't figure out how to do this. With pine 4.44, in the
menu for editing a role, I see "Current Folder Conditions," "Current
Message Conditions," "Actions," and "Uses." None of these allows me to
specify that I'd like a message to be set "Important" (which is what I'd
like to do). I have enable-flag-cmd set (though I don't know if that makes
a difference).
Any help is appreciated!
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On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jessica Perry Hekman wrote:
> that "Rules-based filtering can now set message state (Important,
> Deleted, ...)". However, I can't figure out how to do this. With pine
> 4.44, in the menu for editing a role,
Umm, you're looking at the menu for editing a ROLE. You need to be
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> Umm, you're looking at the menu for editing a ROLE. You need to be
> making a FILTER. The web page talks about Rules-based FILTERING.
Indeed! It works beautifully. Thanks -- and sorry I didn't investigate
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