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*** Devil's Claw ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list on Mar...:

:) When I run pine I have to write my password to connect an IMAP server.
:) I use {server_name/user=username}/path_to_inbox. I don't want to write
:) the password any time that I run pine. What I have to do?

- If you are using PC-Pine, you need to create an empty file called
"pine.pwd" in the same directory that contains the pinerc file. However,
starting in Pine4.43 you can specify its location if you start Pine with
the "-passfile" switch, in whose case you must give its full path. This
option is not available for Unix Pine.

- If you are using Unix Pine, you need to recompile Pine. Edit the file
"pine/pine.h" and add the following line to it:

#define PASSFILE "pine.pwd"

Recompile Pine and create an empty file called pine.pwd in your $HOME
directory. The rest of the process will take care of it by itself. The
process will only work if you actually have a file called "pine.pwd", if
it does not exist (because you removed/renamed it) it won't matter if you
recompiled Pine or not with this capability.

 You can hide your password file in a more secure place than your $HOME
directory, you can change "pine.pwd" by a path relative to $HOME, in order
to put the password file somewhere else.

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 I'm wondering what a normal authentication time would be for pine to
access an imap server that is located on the local network. What I mean
is, I've tried both rsh and ssh configurations within pine and on both
I've noticed that it doesn't ask for my username/password until approx 30+
seconds have gone by (timed it on 4 seperate occasions).
 I can make an ssh connection to the same machine in under a few seconds,
not counting how long it takes to enter the password). The newtork it self
appears to be quite responsive with a relatively small load

wetdream:~ # w
 9:46pm  up 9 days,  3:10,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
root     pts/0    daydream.smotrs.  9:46pm  0.00s  0.09s  0.02s  w

the system is running on a 100base-t network and with the exception of the
imap/pine situation is quite fast.

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Hello.

Is there a way to define a "catchup" shortcut in Pine, almost like the
'c' key of Gnus ?

I mean, when I want to mark all articles in a folder as `read', I have
to select them (; a), flag them as read (* , remove flag unread). As I
am subscribed to a number of mailing-lists, repeating this operation is
quite boring.

Thanks in advance,
Nicolas.


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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Nicolas Kowalski ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:
>
> :) Is there a way to define a "catchup" shortcut in Pine, almost like the
> :) 'c' key of Gnus ?
>
> In recent versions of Pine you can enable:
>
>  [X]  news-offers-catchup-on-close
>
> Try to see if the version you are using allows you to do this, or upgrade
> to a newer version of Pine.

I have this option, but it only works for newsgroups. What I would like
is the ability to mark _mail_ folders as read (all articles read),
without deleting mails.

Nicolas.



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*** Nicolas Kowalski ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:

:) Is there a way to define a "catchup" shortcut in Pine, almost like the
:) 'c' key of Gnus ?

In recent versions of Pine you can enable:

[X]  news-offers-catchup-on-close

Try to see if the version you are using allows you to do this, or upgrade
to a newer version of Pine.

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

>Perhaps you could run pine with a high level of debugging output,
>and examine the debug log to see what pine does when it sends
>mail.  If I run "pine -d 7", my log (~/.pine-debug1) has lines of
>the form:
>
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: EHLO localhost
> [...]
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: 250-8BITMIME
> [...]
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: MAIL FROM:<[email protected]>
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: 250 <[email protected]>... Sender ok
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: RCPT TO:<[email protected]>
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: 250 <[email protected]>... Recipient ok
> IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: DATA

Mine looks this same:

IMAP DEBUG 13:28:15 4/2: EHLO localhost
[...]
IMAP DEBUG 13:28:15 4/2: 250-8BITMIME
[...]
IMAP DEBUG 13:28:15 4/2: MAIL FROM:<[email protected]>
IMAP DEBUG 13:28:15 4/2: 250 2.1.0 <[email protected]>... Sender ok
IMAP DEBUG 13:28:15 4/2: RCPT TO:<[email protected]>
IMAP DEBUG 13:28:15 4/2: 250 2.1.5 <[email protected]>... Recipient ok

But even that the header of each email, which contain the ISO-8859-2
characters has a Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE instead
8BIT. :(

Regards,
Murphy

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Jacob Morzinski wrote:
>I should clarify that I performed this test with the
>enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation feature turned off.  If I turn
>it on and send myself mail, my debuglevel 7 log shows
>  IMAP DEBUG 13:14:49 3/29: MAIL FROM:<[email protected]> BODY=8BITMIME
>
>and the mail arrives with headers:
>  MIME-Version: 1.0
>  Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1
>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT

The mine looks always this same, doesn't matter is the
"enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation" feature is turned ON of OFF. :(

Regards,
Murphy

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote:
>I came to the same conclusion, but since Murphy did not get any 8 bit
>connection through I thought that it be that did not use the same SMTP
>server on the inside of his firewall.
>
>The SMTP server on mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200] signals 8BITMIME. What
>about 10.17.0.26 and 10.17.0.27? 10.17.0.27 seems to be the inside of
>193.74.243.200, but maybe it isn't so?
>
>Murphy! Can you connect to 193.74.243.200?

Even if I set this IP address explicitly as a "smtp-server", the Pine
always connect to my localhost first thaen send the emails. The
informations which I got from my sys admins were that we have different
servers for sending and receiving a emails.

I did a test using "Mutt" to send this same type of email and I got
this:

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:49:59 +0200
From: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
To: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
Subject: test
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

Maybe the Pine is set incorectly or maybe I have not the latest version
which has some problem with this (my version is 4.40)?

Regards,
Murphy

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On Apr 2, 2002, 13:54 (+0200) Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

> >The SMTP server on mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200] signals 8BITMIME. Wh=
at
> >about 10.17.0.26 and 10.17.0.27? 10.17.0.27 seems to be the inside of
> >193.74.243.200, but maybe it isn't so?
> >
> >Murphy! Can you connect to 193.74.243.200?
>
> Even if I set this IP address explicitly as a "smtp-server", the Pine
> always connect to my localhost first thaen send the emails. The
> informations which I got from my sys admins were that we have different
> servers for sending and receiving a emails.

Do you have

smtp-server =3D 193.74.243.200

and it sends to localhost? Are you at the same machine? If not, it seems
strange that it does not send to -- or try to send to -- 193.74.243.200.



Mats

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote:

>Do you have
>
>smtp-server = 193.74.243.200

Exactly like this.

>and it sends to localhost? Are you at the same machine? If not, it seems
>strange that it does not send to -- or try to send to -- 193.74.243.200.

Yes it is strange. My debug file contain:

======= Current_val options set =======
         user-domain : sonycom.com
         smtp-server : 193.74.243.200
[...]
=== sending: Sending mail...
call_mailer: via "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem"
Opening pipe: "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" (WRNP)
PID: 11560, COMMAND: /usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 220 caladium.sonytel.be ESMTP Sendmail
8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:10:38 +0200
(MEST)piotr/.pinecfg/addressbook) -
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: EHLO localhost
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-caladium.sonytel.be Hello piotr@localhost,
pleased to meet you
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-EXPN
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-VERB
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-8BITMIME
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-SIZE
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-DSN
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-ONEX
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-ETRN
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-XUSR
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250 HELP
Opened SMTP server "caladium.sonytel.be"
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: RSET
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250 2.0.0 Reset state
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: MAIL FROM:<[email protected]>
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250 2.1.0 <[email protected]>... Sender ok
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: RCPT TO:<[email protected]>
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250 2.1.5 <[email protected]>... Recipient ok
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: DATA
IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by
itself

Even the address of SMTP server is set to the 193.74.243.200 the Pine
connect to the localhost first and it uses the localhost settings to
send this email. The local host is:

Name:    caladium.sonytel.be
Address:  10.34.112.24

Which is different than 193.74.243.200. Why is like this I'm really
don't know, but it looks like the pine make something wrong, because
Mutt can handle this.

Regards,
Murphy

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Murphy wrote:
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>Which is different than 193.74.243.200. Why is like this I'm really
>don't know, but it looks like the pine make something wrong, because
>Mutt can handle this.

OK, I found the problem. The version 4.40 of Pine couldn't do this from
some unknown reason, but version 4.44 can do this without any problems.

Sorry about the commotion.

Regards,
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Hi,

I noticed that sometimes is a hard to maintain some configuration fields
like a Filters, Roles, Scores, etc. when some fields contain too much
searching patterns. For example I have a role with a field:

>From pattern    = @ruhr-uni-bochum.de,@iss.net,@poland.com,@zus.pl,@albedo.art.pl,@memax.k..

Which is very long and impossible to see what kind of the elements are
inside and which ones are maybe redundant or repeated. It would be a
nice to have a options (or maybe a permanent pine fix) to reshape these
fields after each comma into:

>From pattern    = @ruhr-uni-bochum.de,
                 @iss.net,@poland.com,
                 @zus.pl,
                 @albedo.art.pl,
                 @memax.k

this same way like it is done for a attachments. In this view we can
easy see what is inside.

It would be also a nice to have an option to selectively
remove/add/modify only a particular elements from a each field, like it
is done for example in the role definition for the field "Set Other
Hdrs", where we can manage separately each entry.

Regards,
Murphy

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Try including a norsh flag. Here's my pine invocation as an example:

% pine -i -p {hostname/norsh/user=dmk}remote_pinerc



On 4/1/02 9:54 PM, "S.Toms" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm wondering what a normal authentication time would be for pine to
> access an imap server that is located on the local network. What I mean
> is, I've tried both rsh and ssh configurations within pine and on both
> I've noticed that it doesn't ask for my username/password until approx 30+
> seconds have gone by (timed it on 4 seperate occasions).
> I can make an ssh connection to the same machine in under a few seconds,
> not counting how long it takes to enter the password). The newtork it self
> appears to be quite responsive with a relatively small load
>
> wetdream:~ # w
> 9:46pm  up 9 days,  3:10,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
> root     pts/0    daydream.smotrs.  9:46pm  0.00s  0.09s  0.02s  w
>
> the system is running on a 100base-t network and with the exception of the
> imap/pine situation is quite fast.

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On Apr 2, 2002, 14:15 (+0200) Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes it is strange. My debug file contain:
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Current_val options set =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>           user-domain : sonycom.com
>           smtp-server : 193.74.243.200
> [...]
> =3D=3D=3D sending: Sending mail...
> call_mailer: via "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem"
> Opening pipe: "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" (WRNP)
> PID: 11560, COMMAND: /usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 220 caladium.sonytel.be ESMTP Sendmail

I could be that the selection is in the "fixed" file, which you cannot
override.

> 8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:10:38 +0200
> (MEST)piotr/.pinecfg/addressbook) -
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: EHLO localhost
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-caladium.sonytel.be Hello piotr@localhost,
> pleased to meet you
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-EXPN
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-VERB
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250-8BITMIME

Even then, the server supports 8BITMIME.

> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: 250 2.0.0 Reset state
> IMAP DEBUG 14:10:38 4/2: MAIL FROM:<[email protected]>

Here, pine should say BODY=3D8BITMIME. Is that only if it connects to a SMT=
P
server over the wire?



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I have searched around and not found anything about this behavior:

Why is it that pine drops the pop3 session while you are reading mail?  Is
there a way to force pine to download the entire contents of my mailbox so
that I can take my time browsing messages?  Otherwise, I have to exit the
program and restart to get the remainder of my messages.

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I get repeated Inbox closed due to access error.  Why?


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On 2 Apr 2002 Nicolas Kowalski ([email protected]) wrote:
> >  [X]  news-offers-catchup-on-close
>
> I have this option, but it only works for newsgroups. What I would like
> is the ability to mark _mail_ folders as read (all articles read),
> without deleting mails.


I have some ideas for how to do this but first I have a question
for you: Why do you want to do this? If it is so you can
distinguish what arrived since the last time you viewed the
mailbox, you could do the following:

1] Add IMAPSTATUS to your index-format and then only new messages
  will be marked with an N. Old unread messages will be marked
  with a U.

2] Set incoming-startup-rule to one of the "recent" options.
  Here's what I use:


           Set    Rule Values
           ---  ----------------------
           ( )  first-unseen
           (*)  first-recent
           ( )  first-important
           ( )  first-important-or-unseen
           ( )  first-important-or-recent
           ( )  first
           ( )  last


Hope this helps,
Nancy
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Can anyone suggest how to fix the problem with the From address
exemplified on this mail?
The personal name (whatever it is set to) gets duplicated, the
second time inside angular brackets. This means that various
mailers (including my version of pine) cannot reply to such a
mail, because they think the reply mailing address list is
improperly formed.

I should add that the domain name (ic.ac.uk) is also set by me
and I've quelled lookups to the passwd file. I'm running Pine 4.21.

Thanks,    Mike Thompson



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On 3 Apr 2002 Mike Thompson <Mike Thompson ([email protected]) wrote:
> Can anyone suggest how to fix the problem with the From address
> exemplified on this mail?
> The personal name (whatever it is set to) gets duplicated, the
> second time inside angular brackets. This means that various
> mailers (including my version of pine) cannot reply to such a
> mail, because they think the reply mailing address list is
> improperly formed.
>
> I should add that the domain name (ic.ac.uk) is also set by me
> and I've quelled lookups to the passwd file. I'm running Pine 4.21.


That is very bizarre. Here are some things that you can look at.

1] See if there is a pine.conf.fixed file on you system that is
  overriding part of your From setting. This often resides in
  /usr/local/lib but if it's not there look at `man pine' in
  the FILES section to see where it is on your system.

2] Try to set your From header some other way, e.g., using a role
  or using the customized-hdrs variable. I describe both of
  these, and a lot more about your From header, here

  <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/>

Good luck,
Let us know if you're able to solve the problem,
Nancy
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Pine does not have a way to set a foreground color with a transparent
background color. We made a 3/4-hearted effort to add this about a year
ago and ran into several conflicts with the way pine handles the screen
and the transparent background. It seemed like it would be fairly
straight-forward but it turned out to not work. So, no, you can't do that.
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I'm working on PINE 4.33. If I have got a message in X folder and
another in Y is there any way that I can add/attach these two messages
below a third message that I freshly compose ?

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Sreekumar wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:51:43 +0530 (IST)
> From: Sreekumar <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Attach mails from different folders..
>
>
>
> I'm working on PINE 4.33. If I have got a message in X folder and
> another in Y is there any way that I can add/attach these two messages
> below a third message that I freshly compose ?
>
>

My solution may be primitive (I use PINE 4.21), and, a clumsy method, but
what I do, is start the new message, press <CTRL-O> to postpone the
composition, go to a folder that includes a message that I want to
include in the message that I am composing, note the message number
within the folder, press C to compose, then answer Y to "Continue
postponed composition?", select the message that I have begun composing,
go to the point within the composing message, where I want to insert the
existing message from the folder, then <CTRL-R> to read a file then
<CTRL-W> to read a message, then type in the message number within the
folder, when prompted, then repeat the process for any other message that
I want to include. When I am appending messages, to the message that I am
composing, I simply go to the end, and, separate the messages (the new
message, and any that I include), with lines of dots, and, insert the
appended messages, between the lines of dots.

Note: this is for inline inclusion of messages, not for including messages
as attachments.

--
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you'll know what the answer means."
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This procedure shall only allow me take the message from my IMBOX and not
from any other mail folders created in PINE

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Bret Busby wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:00:46 +0800 (WST)
> From: Bret Busby <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Attach mails from different folders..
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Sreekumar wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:51:43 +0530 (IST)
> > From: Sreekumar <[email protected]>
> > To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Attach mails from different folders..
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm working on PINE 4.33. If I have got a message in X folder and
> > another in Y is there any way that I can add/attach these two messages
> > below a third message that I freshly compose ?
> >
> >
>
> My solution may be primitive (I use PINE 4.21), and, a clumsy method, but
> what I do, is start the new message, press <CTRL-O> to postpone the
> composition, go to a folder that includes a message that I want to
> include in the message that I am composing, note the message number
> within the folder, press C to compose, then answer Y to "Continue
> postponed composition?", select the message that I have begun composing,
> go to the point within the composing message, where I want to insert the
> existing message from the folder, then <CTRL-R> to read a file then
> <CTRL-W> to read a message, then type in the message number within the
> folder, when prompted, then repeat the process for any other message that
> I want to include. When I am appending messages, to the message that I am
> composing, I simply go to the end, and, separate the messages (the new
> message, and any that I include), with lines of dots, and, insert the
> appended messages, between the lines of dots.
>
> Note: this is for inline inclusion of messages, not for including messages
> as attachments.
>
>


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I just had another thought about what might be causing your
problem. Do you have your own email address in your Pine address
book? If so, Pine grabs that information when you compose a
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expanding addresses in the To, Cc, Bcc, and Lcc headers). Take a
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Nickname  :
Fullname  :
Fcc       :
Comment   :
Addresses :

and see if there's anything weird about the Fullname and
Addresses settings.

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Sreekumar wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:10:06 +0530 (IST)
> From: Sreekumar <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Attach mails from different folders..
>
>
>
> This procedure shall only allow me take the message from my IMBOX and not
> from any other mail folders created in PINE
>
>

Then it appears to me, that your version of PINE operates differently to
version 4.21, as I have succesfully used the method that I mentioned, many
times.

--
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Armadale
West Australia
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"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Bret Busby wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:26:38 +0800 (WST)
> From: Bret Busby <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Attach mails from different folders..
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Sreekumar wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:10:06 +0530 (IST)
> > From: Sreekumar <[email protected]>
> > To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Attach mails from different folders..
> >
> >
> >
> > This procedure shall only allow me take the message from my IMBOX and not
> > from any other mail folders created in PINE
> >
> >
>
> Then it appears to me, that your version of PINE operates differently to
> version 4.21, as I have succesfully used the method that I mentioned, many
> times.
>
>

There also seems to be another issue with your version of PINE; I assume
that it included the message to which you were replying, in the signature,
with you prefixing the message to which you were replying, with your
response, as, when I replied to your message, the message to which you had
replied, appearing as it did after your signature, conspicuously
disappeared.

Strange...

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Bret Busby
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West Australia
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We are running Pine 3.96 on an old Linux 1.2.13 box and Pine 4.44 on a new
FreeBSD box. Pine 3.96 treats bare (unqualified) addresses as local and
appends the value of either user-domain (if defined) or the name of the
host of which its running (if not), if the address is not in an
addressbook.  Pine 4.44 seems to choke on bare addresses, instead of
appending the user-domain or the name of the host on which its running,
if it can;t find the bare name in an address book it issues an error
message "to address: not in addressbook" and wont leave the to
line until the bare address is either qualified or removed.

Since sendmail appends the local domain to bare addresses,
we'd like to have pine either leave the address bare,
(or qualify it the way pine 3.96 did). what do we need
to add to pine.conf to make this a new default?

Thanks.

Fuzzy



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Hello all,

 How to include different signature during every compose ?

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>  How to include different signature during every compose ?

You can put some program/script which will change it for you every time.
For example: I did this using a specific role, but you can do this in
the general too.

Set Signature   = signat_gen.pl|

The "signat_gen.pl" is a perl script which generates a signature first,
then pine will apply it after (don't forget to put the "|" character at
the end).

Regards,
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Murphy wrote:
> >  How to include different signature during every compose ?
> Set Signature   = signat_gen.pl|
>
> The "signat_gen.pl" is a perl script which generates a signature first,
> then pine will apply it after (don't forget to put the "|" character at
> the end).

 Thank you Murphy.

 Why this Pine Tokens are not parsed during normal compose ?
 Tokens parsed during Reply .

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Bharathi S wrote:

>  Why this Pine Tokens are not parsed during normal compose ?
>  Tokens parsed during Reply .

If you define it from a "SETUP CONFIGURATION" screen in a field

       signature-file            = signature_generator|

Then Pine should first generate the signature and attach it to the mail
during a normal composing mode. I checked it and it's working for a Pine
4.44.

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Hi, folks

Unless I can present a nice "shut up and leave the pine in the distro -
the way you do it now is fine with us - of course you have to add
patches to rpms - who told you this crap about us not wanting people to
distribute pine rpms" type of answer to our dear developers, pine WILL be
dropped from MandrakeLinux distribution.

In case this isn't clear, MandrakeLinux is the second most used
Linux distro these days, and considering the fact that we attract much
more "new users" than any other distribution, we are on the good way to
become nr. 1.

I hope some human beeing from Washington.edu actually reads this list,
and cares enough about seing pine included in a major linux distro
to answer the question(s), or find someone who is able to answer them.

I really don't feel like changing to "mutt" after >10 years of
using pine as my primary (and only) email client. :-(

thx

       Denis
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Subject: Re: [Maintainers] pine removed

Oh, not again. :-(

We've had this shit MANY times already, and I'm sick of looking trough the
pine documentation and reading the legalise docs to assure everyone this
is OK. Is it so difficult to actually ASK the university of washington
what THEY think about the whole story, and rely on their answer, rather
than gueswork and (mis)interpretation of the stuff written in their
licence?

I bet they would be happy to answer, after all Mandrake is the second most
used Linux distribution worldwide, and on a good way to become the Nr. 1
in one year or so.

Pine exists since 1989, and I've yet to hear of University of Washington
complaining about the fact that pine is included (and patched in order to
make it work properly) in a Linux distribution, which is for me a very
good reason to believe that this whole yelling about the pine licence is
nothing but a pile of crap.

Here, I've made this great effort to contact pine "owners", so let's see
what they'll answer. Whatever the answer is, I'll consider it
"official", write a story about it on MandrakeForum, try to push it
towards all the other linux-related sites, and use the URL of that story
in all the future pine-related discussions.

- If their answer is "no, you are doing illegal things, please stop
distributiong pine" I'll make a public apology to all the people I'm right
now reffering to as "overzealus greenhorns with no idea of what they are
doing" (in the best case), stop advertising pine (or better said start
anti-advertising it), and learn how to use mutt. Do I have to eat my hat too?

- In case their answer is "yeah, sure you can do this" and you still
decide to drop pine from the distro, I'll have to install RedHat on my
machine (or at least their pine package).

cu
       Denis
PS: One more thing. Please take a look at these stats, and think about
them a little: http://staff.washington.edu/corey/pine-stats/

On 4 Apr 2002, Pixel wrote:

+ Date: 04 Apr 2002 12:48:22 +0200
+ From: Pixel <[email protected]>
+ Reply-To: [email protected]
+ To: [email protected]
+ Cc: [email protected]
+ Subject: [Maintainers] pine removed
+
+ FYI pine is removed from distro since:
+
+ - it is illegal to distribute a patched binary
+   (http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/legal.html#10.1)
+   whereas our pine has *many* patches!
+
+ - it is illegal to distribute pine together with proprietary software in
+   powerpack
+   (http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-07-02-025-21-OP-CY-DB)
+
+ more: http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#pine
+

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Fuzzy wrote:

> Pine 4.44 seems to choke on bare addresses, instead of appending the
> user-domain or the name of the host on which its running, if it can;t
> find the bare name in an address book it issues an error message "to
> address: not in addressbook" and wont leave the to line until the bare
> address is either qualified or removed.

FAQ.

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/write.html#localuser

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Bharathi S wrote:

>   How to include different signature during every compose ?

See the following URL

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and read the next two Q&As as well.

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Any help...????


I'm working on PINE 4.33. If I have got a message in X folder and
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I'm using and IMAP server for INBOX access and storage of about 50
mailboxes.  I want to be a able to just type in the mailbox name and have
the message saved to the IMAP server mailboxes.

I want to be able to save a message from my INBOX to the IMAP server.
I don't want to have to type in the full path each time I want to save a
message.  You can see it would be very long
imap.hostname.com/ssl/user=bradley/novalidate-cert}~/mail/mailboxname


So I've been trying to set a path name for -- default-saved-msg-folder --
{imap.hostname.com/ssl/user=bradley/novalidate-cert}~/mail/

This does not work.     Again I just want to type in the mailbox name and
have it save to the IMAP collection.  Can't I set this value somewhere.
Can't it be my collections nickname or the full name like above?


Thanks
Brad

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On 5 Apr 2002 Bradley Glonka ([email protected]) wrote:
> I'm using and IMAP server for INBOX access and storage of about 50
> mailboxes.  I want to be a able to just type in the mailbox name and have
> the message saved to the IMAP server mailboxes.


This is the purpose of the "default folder collection." I discuss
how to set up folder collections, including the default folder
collection here

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#setFolders>

This, to me, is one of the most confusing parts of Pine's user
interface.

HTH,
Nancy

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Hey folks,

How can I discover what exactly Pine is doing while it hangs, or slows
down?  I find that *very* frequently I wait for pine to do something.
I'm using Eduardo's fancy threads interface, but using the not-recommended
'force-local-threading' option, as my IMAP server doesn't seem to thread
properly.  So I figure it's just pine trying to compute threads.

But how do I know for sure?  Do I need to run pine through gdb?  I'm
willing to do this, but it's been about 3 years since I used gdb for
anything useful, so I'll have to brush up on that a little.

The reason I'm curious is that I was just on a different LAN, and pine was
pretty zippy then.  Odd, since it was hotel LAN, vs. my work LAN (which is
incredibly fast, and in the next room over from the mail server).

So, any insight would help.  Basically the behavior that I'm seeing is
inconsistent.  While performing various operations, (compose, select a
thread, aggregate commands, single commands, postpone, etc...) pine will
just hang for awhile before carrying out the task.  My pine screen will
freeze, and no keyboard input will happen.  Then, after awhile (a few
seconds) it'll perform whatever action it was trying to do, and then
whatever keyboard input I sent during that time.

A few seconds doesn't sound like much, but it sure does get annoying after
awhile, especially when just quick trying to do something.

Anyway, thanks,

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Joel Boonstra wrote:
> How can I discover what exactly Pine is doing while it hangs, or slows
> down?  I find that *very* frequently I wait for pine to do something.

If you run pine with the "-d 9" command flag, you will get the highest
level of debugging output.  The test that I did appeared to include
timestamps for most logfile entries.  I don't know if you need "9" for
the timestamps or if a less-verbose debuglevel would also give
timestamps.

The procedure I would follow would be to run pine with timestamps in
the debug log, and compare the debug log of a "slow" pine against the
debug log of a "fast" different pine.   I don't expect it to be a
miracle solution, but it may show you where to start examing the
source or where to start debugging.

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See also:

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Joel Boonstra wrote:
> > How can I discover what exactly Pine is doing while it hangs, or slows
> > down?  I find that *very* frequently I wait for pine to do something.
>
> If you run pine with the "-d 9" command flag, you will get the highest
> level of debugging output.  The test that I did appeared to include
> timestamps for most logfile entries.  I don't know if you need "9" for
> the timestamps or if a less-verbose debuglevel would also give
> timestamps.
>
> The procedure I would follow would be to run pine with timestamps in
> the debug log, and compare the debug log of a "slow" pine against the
> debug log of a "fast" different pine.         I don't expect it to be a
> miracle solution, but it may show you where to start examing the
> source or where to start debugging.
>
>



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The following was sent to me by another person in our group.  I've tested
it and, in fact, Pine causes Outlook problems with attachments:


       A heads up on sending attachments from Pine to someone using
       Outlook 2002 (with Office XP).  If you send a message with an
       attachment from Netscape Messenger or Webmail to someone who reads
       their mail with Outlook, the message appears to have an attachment
       (as noted by the paperclip icon and filename below the subject line
       in the header of the message).  However, if you send a message with
       an attachment from Pine to someone reading e-mail with Outlook, the
       paperclip icon and filename do not appear.  In the INBOX listing,
       the paperclip icon appears as long as the message is unread.  As
       soon as you read the message though, the paperclip no longer
       appears on that message's line in the INBOX list. In Outlook, even
       though it appears that there is no attachment with this message, if
       you drag down the "File" menu to "Save attachments", you may save the
       attachment out by its original filename, thus the file is actually
       there, it's just you wouldn't know it by looking at the message
       itself like you would for a message sent from Messenger, Webmail or
       Outlook.

       It should be noted that Messenger and Webmail show that the message
       from Pine has an attachment with no problem.  This is only a
       problem if the message was sent by Pine and read in Outlook.

Is this a known problem or is there something we can do on the Pine end to
make it work properly?  Thanks in advance.

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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Don Newcomer wrote:

DN> The following was sent to me by another person in our group.  I've tested
DN> it and, in fact, Pine causes Outlook problems with attachments:
DN>
DN>
DN>     A heads up on sending attachments from Pine to someone using
DN>     Outlook 2002 (with Office XP).  If you send a message with an
DN>     attachment from Netscape Messenger or Webmail to someone who reads
DN>     their mail with Outlook, the message appears to have an attachment
DN>     (as noted by the paperclip icon and filename below the subject line
DN>     in the header of the message).  However, if you send a message with
DN>     an attachment from Pine to someone reading e-mail with Outlook, the
DN>     paperclip icon and filename do not appear.  In the INBOX listing,
DN>     the paperclip icon appears as long as the message is unread.  As
DN>     soon as you read the message though, the paperclip no longer
DN>     appears on that message's line in the INBOX list. In Outlook, even
DN>     though it appears that there is no attachment with this message, if
DN>     you drag down the "File" menu to "Save attachments", you may save the
DN>     attachment out by its original filename, thus the file is actually
DN>     there, it's just you wouldn't know it by looking at the message
DN>     itself like you would for a message sent from Messenger, Webmail or
DN>     Outlook.
DN>
DN>     It should be noted that Messenger and Webmail show that the message
DN>     from Pine has an attachment with no problem.  This is only a
DN>     problem if the message was sent by Pine and read in Outlook.
DN>
DN> Is this a known problem or is there something we can do on the Pine end to
DN> make it work properly?  Thanks in advance.

FEATURE: quell-content-id

This feature changes the behavior of Pine when sending messages. It is
intended to work around a bug in Microsoft's Outlook XP mail user agent.
As of this writing, Microsoft has acknowledged the bug but has not added
it to the Knowledge Base. We have been told that there will be a post-SP1
hotfix for Outlook XP. This particular bug has bug fix number
OfficeQFE:4781. The nature of the bug is that messages with attachments
which contain a Content-ID header (which standard Pine attachments do) do
not show the attachment indicator (a paperclip) when viewed with Outlook
XP. So the user has no indication that the message contains an attachment.

If this feature is set then Pine will remove most Content-ID headers
before sending a message. If an attachment is of type MESSAGE, then the
existing Content-ID headers inside the message will be left intact. This
would only happen with Pine if a message was forwarded as an attachment or
if a message with a message attached was forwarded. Similarly if an
attachment of type MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE is forwarded, the Content-ID
headers of the alternative parts will not be removed.

Because the Content-ID header is a standard part of MIME it is possible
that setting this feature will break something. For example, if an
attachment has a Content-ID header which is necessary for the correct
functioning of that attachment, it is possible that Pine may remove that
header when the attachment is forwarded. However, it seems fairly safe at
this time.

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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Don Newcomer wrote:

> The following was sent to me by another person in our group.  I've
> tested it and, in fact, Pine causes Outlook problems with attachments:
<snip>
> Is this a known problem or is there something we can do on the Pine
> end to make it work properly?  Thanks in advance.

Yes to both.

Read this message in Google's archive of comp.mail.pine:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.NXT.4.41.0111071619060.22033-100000%40Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>

The work-around applies to later versions of Pine as well.

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 I apologise if this appears twice.  I'd somehow been unsub'd &
sent this an hour or so ago, but I've not seen it.  One more
time...?

 Odd thing this morning with pine 4.44 for Linux on RedHat 7.2,
which I've been running since it came out without trouble.
Whenever I go to the Folder List, the status line changes to
things like this:

[S?6@??6@?]

 Everywhere else, pine's acting fine.  Anyone run into this
before?

 Meph

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I'm looking to access an Exchange 5.5 server with Pine 4.33.  I can see
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Check out the Pine-Exchange mini-HOWTO.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Pine-Exchange/

If you have any questions about it, let me know.

thanks,

Alex.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Stanley, Jon wrote:

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 Hey,

Has anyone been successful setting this up? I have my Global Addressbook
set to  {IMAPSERVER/ssl/imap/novalidate-cert}GlobalAddressBook, but Pine
is unable to read or write to it. When I try, I get

Can't initialize folder
"{IMAPSERVER/ssl/novalidate-cert}Mailboxes/GlobalAddressBook": Permission
Denied

Despite this error message, the file "GlobalAddressBook" actually gets
created on the IMAP server (running IMAP2001 in SSL mode). It has that
"FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" message in it.

The logs on the IMAP server show no errors.


-Yaron

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*** Yaron ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Has anyone been successful setting this up? I have my Global
:) Addressbook set to
:) {IMAPSERVER/ssl/imap/novalidate-cert}GlobalAddressBook, but Pine is
:) unable to read or write to it. When I try, I get
:)
:) Can't initialize folder
:) "{IMAPSERVER/ssl/novalidate-cert}Mailboxes/GlobalAddressBook": Permission
:) Denied

Try pressing M S Z and following the steps from there. That should do it
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On 10 Apr 2002 Yaron ([email protected]) wrote:
> Has anyone been successful setting this up? I have my Global Addressbook
> set to  {IMAPSERVER/ssl/imap/novalidate-cert}GlobalAddressBook, but Pine
> is unable to read or write to it.

Yes, I describe how to do it on my Power Pine page, here:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#abookIMAP>

Here are the first two sentences:

With Pine you can look up addresses in personal address books,
global address books, and LDAP directories. The last two are
usually set up and maintained by a system administrator and
shared by many users.


Hope this helps!
Nancy
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=09Hi all,

I use pine, with fetchmail + procmail.

I have a problem, and I can't resolve it. I read howtos, and docs in intnet=
, but my problem continue.


I use TO in procmail and It duplicate my emails.

for ex:

:0
* ^TOusermail1
folder_usermail1

:0=20
* ^TOusermail2
folder_usermail2

I fI recive an email that contains: To as a usermail1 and Cc or Bcc as a us=
ermail2 I have to use 'c' flag If I want that the usermail2 recive the emai=
l.

If I use (or not) the 'c' flag, procmail dup=F1icate my emails, then the us=
ermail1 have 2 emails and the usermail2 (when I use 'c' flag) recive 2 emai=
ls too.


This is the for 2 usermails, If I use N usermails with their TO each userma=
il recive N email (in the case of 'c' flag)

I don't know how to resolve this problem. Someone can help me?


I want:

=09The user in To recive 1 mail, the user in Cc o Bcc recive its mail.


Thanks




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On 11 Apr 2002 Devil's Claw ([email protected]) wrote:
> I use TO in procmail and It duplicate my emails.
>
> for ex:
>
> :0
> * ^TOusermail1
> folder_usermail1
>
> :0
> * ^TOusermail2
> folder_usermail2
>
> I fI recive an email that contains: To as a usermail1 and Cc or
> Bcc as a usermail2 I have to use 'c' flag If I want that the
> usermail2 recive the email.
> [...]

First, read the links in the section of my Procmail Quick Start
called

 *Warning*: Procmail Can Not Reliably Sort Users' Messages in
 a Virtual Domain

which is here

<http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/#virtualDomain>


Then see if your ISP has set its MTA to insert a header that you
can filter on. Mine (Verio) uses Delivered-To.

HTH,
Nancy

PS - future questions about procmail should go to comp.mail.misc
or the Procmail mailing list.

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Hello,

I am using Pine 4.44 with GnuPG 1.06 on a RedHat 7.2 PC.  When using GnuPG
to display incoming messages, Pine looks as though it verifies the message
correctly, but then none of the message body displays.  I have tried pinepg,
pgp4pine, and my current display filters are:

_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/bin/gpg --verify
_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/bin/gpg -d

When I copy the message from my /var/spool/mail file, I am able to verify
and decrypt correctly.  I have searched the internet and google for days,
read man pages but am coming up somewhat unlucky.  Has anyone else seen this
and have any suggestions?

Thanks,

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Greg Rolling wrote:

> I am using Pine 4.44 with GnuPG 1.06 on a RedHat 7.2 PC.  When using GnuPG
> to display incoming messages, Pine looks as though it verifies the message
> correctly, but then none of the message body displays.  I have tried pinepg,
> pgp4pine, and my current display filters are:
>
> _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/bin/gpg --verify
> _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/bin/gpg -d
>
> When I copy the message from my /var/spool/mail file, I am able to verify
> and decrypt correctly.  I have searched the internet and google for days,
> read man pages but am coming up somewhat unlucky.  Has anyone else seen this
> and have any suggestions?

One:  pgpenvelope <http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/>.  It works
flawlessly for me here :)

Cheers

Richard


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*** Greg Rolling ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I am using Pine 4.44 with GnuPG 1.06 on a RedHat 7.2 PC.  When using
:) GnuPG to display incoming messages, Pine looks as though it verifies
:) the message correctly, but then none of the message body displays.  I
:) have tried pinepg, pgp4pine, and my current display filters are:
:)
:) _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/bin/gpg --verify
:) _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/bin/gpg -d
:)
:) When I copy the message from my /var/spool/mail file, I am able to
:) verify and decrypt correctly.  I have searched the internet and google
:) for days, read man pages but am coming up somewhat unlucky.  Has anyone
:) else seen this and have any suggestions?

You are missing the _TMPFILE_ entry in your definition of the filter.
The _TMPFILE_ must be the input and output and your filter. You should
define your filters to be something like

_LEADING("something")_ /path/to/script _TMPFILE_

and script be something like

/usr/bin/gpg --verify $1 > something; mv something $1

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Hi -

I use pine 4.44 on a SUN Solaris 2.8.  I have defined some xterm defaults
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  "XTerm (Magenta)"  exec xterm -bg white -fg magenta -font 9x15

When I use this xterm  - it used to overwrite the default color settings
that I defined under the .pinerc or via the S(setup), C(config) in pine 4.33

This is used give me the flexibility of overwriting the default if I am
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In Pine 4.44 - this is not happening.  I understand this is the right
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Hello,

is it possible to select Role manually when replying to message? Currently
it is need to make rules (From, To, etc) in configuration section, but
time to time I need to use different roles dynamically (for example,
official letter and unofficial letter, but to same person). Is there
solution for this problem?

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> is it possible to select Role manually when replying to message?

You have to set in the SETUP CONFIGURATION (M, S, C) screen the:
 [ Reply Preferences ]
           [X]  alternate-reply-menu

Then if you press R twice on some message then you will have a chance to
set the different role for a specific email.

Disadvantage of this is that this menu will appear always when you want
to reply, then I'm not sure that it help you for this problem.

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Murphy wrote:

> > is it possible to select Role manually when replying to message?
>
> You have to set in the SETUP CONFIGURATION (M, S, C) screen the:
>   [ Reply Preferences ]
>             [X]  alternate-reply-menu

There isn't such option:

 [ Reply Preferences ]
           [ ]  enable-reply-indent-string-editing
           [ ]  include-attachments-in-reply
           [X]  include-header-in-reply
           [X]  include-text-in-reply
           [ ]  reply-always-uses-reply-to
           [X]  signature-at-bottom
           [ ]  strip-from-sigdashes-on-reply

I'm using Pine 4.44

> Disadvantage of this is that this menu will appear always when you want
> to reply, then I'm not sure that it help you for this problem.

Yes, it is better to have another hot-key for replying using alternate
role.

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Vladimir Litovka wrote:

> There isn't such option:

You are right. I'm using a patched version of Pine 4.44 from a location:

       http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/info/all.html

Where this menu is added and also some more useful things. I'm not sure
that you can achieve this without the patch.

Regards,
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Or maybe you should specify for some role the Reply Use:

Reply Use       =
           Set    Choose One
           ---  --------------------
           ( )  Never
           (*)  With confirmation
           ( )  Without confirmation

And put such "general" rule at the beginning of your roles list. But in
this case you will need to select each time the proper role manually.

The second choice is to put such role in the "middle" of your roles,
after the roles which should be used always automatically, and after
this this role, the roles which are defined for a manual selection.

For example:

I have defined such roles:

   From_SONY
   From_KOLEDZY_Hania
   From_KOLEDZY_All_Murphy
   From_KOLEDZY_ALL_Piotr
   From_POLBOX
   From_TLEN
   From_PULSTAR
->  Default
   To_KOLEDZY_All_Murphy
   To_KOLEDZY_All_Piotr
   To_KOLEDZY_All_Piotr_Work

The "Default" role is always match, and is marked "with confirmation".
If this happen (from some reason) then I can select the alternative
role. I think it can work like this without patching a Pine 4.44, but I
didn't try it.

Regards,
Murphy

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>From main menu use # to get to the role when sending, you can use the
same for replying to a message. If you use 'O' other cmds this will
eventually show up
>
>Subject: Reply using specific Role
>   From: Vladimir Litovka <[email protected]>
>   Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:52:25 +0300 (EEST)
>     To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>
>Hello,
>
> is it possible to select Role manually when replying to message? Currently
> it is need to make rules (From, To, etc) in configuration section, but
> time to time I need to use different roles dynamically (for example,
> official letter and unofficial letter, but to same person). Is there
> solution for this problem?
>
> Thank you.
>
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Veronica Loell wrote:
>>From main menu use # to get to the role when sending, you can use the
>same for replying to a message. If you use 'O' other cmds this will
>eventually show up

Eventually it appear, but if you select # from this point, you will
start a new message composition, not a reply with a role.

Probably if you will set each role for a "Reply -> With confirmation"
you will have always chance to change this role into another.

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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Murphy wrote:

> Probably if you will set each role for a "Reply -> With confirmation"
> you will have always chance to change this role into another.

Yes, I've already did it (pressing 'R' twice is more complicated way :)

I have another question - is it possible to change default selection of
answer? I.e. I want to have 'No' as default when Pine asks me:

Use role "Official letter" for Reply?

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Yeah sorry, I was a little to fast in my testing the reply-function.
It does bring up compose wherever it's invoked. As for the setting
of "with confirmation" unless you specify a match as well that will
match all emails then this will not work.

- Veronica


>
>Subject: Re: Reply using specific Role
>   From: Murphy <[email protected]>
>   Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:43:11 +0200 (MEST)
>     To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>
>On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Veronica Loell wrote:
>>>From main menu use # to get to the role when sending, you can use the
>>same for replying to a message. If you use 'O' other cmds this will
>>eventually show up
>
>Eventually it appear, but if you select # from this point, you will
>start a new message composition, not a reply with a role.
>
>Probably if you will set each role for a "Reply -> With confirmation"
>you will have always chance to change this role into another.
>
>Regards,
>Murphy
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Below is an excerpt of a message I just posted to comp.mail.pine.
The URL is valid but PC-Pine does not turn the whole thing into a
link - it stops just before the % sign...

Hope this can be fixed,
Thanks,
Nancy


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REFERENCE:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=130320020521371474%[email protected]>




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I am using Pine 4.43 prebuilt for Solaris 2.8, and I have had something
happen several times which is a real pain.

I will be composing a message and I go out (cntrl-O) to cut-paste
something from another message and then try to go back to my original
message.  Instead, I get

C0".
Pine Exiting.
Abort

When I restart pine, the message I was composing has disappeared so I have
to start over.

Suggestions?

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Am stuck on this one. Cannot find answer. Don't think this is dependant on the
LDAP stuff?

Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
make CC=gcc LDAPLIBS=../ldap/libraries/libldap.a ../ldap/libraries/liblber.a
LDAPCFLAGS=-DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include -f makefile.gs5
gcc   -g -DDEBUG  -DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include  -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"GSO\"
-DMOUSE  -c  addrbook.c
addrbook.c: In function `addr_book':
addrbook.c:2998: `h_abook_config' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:2998: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
addrbook.c:2998: for each function it appears in.)
addrbook.c:3002: `h_abook_select_nicks_take' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3004: `h_abook_select_nick' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3006: `h_abook_select_checks' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3008: `h_abook_select_listmode' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3010: `h_abook_select_addr' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3013: `h_abook_select_top' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_opened' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_top' undeclared (first use this function)
addrbook.c: In function `search_book':
addrbook.c:6651: `h_oe_searchab' undeclared (first use this function)
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o'


Thanks in advance.

 -- Jim

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No, it doesn't look like it has anything to do with LDAP. Try "build
clean" and start over. It looks like the help routines were incorrectly
built in an earlier build attempt.

--
Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, James Dryfoos wrote:

> Am stuck on this one. Cannot find answer. Don't think this is dependant on the
> LDAP stuff?
>
> Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
> make CC=gcc LDAPLIBS=../ldap/libraries/libldap.a ../ldap/libraries/liblber.a
> LDAPCFLAGS=-DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include -f makefile.gs5
> gcc   -g -DDEBUG  -DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include  -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"GSO\"
> -DMOUSE  -c  addrbook.c
> addrbook.c: In function `addr_book':
> addrbook.c:2998: `h_abook_config' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:2998: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> addrbook.c:2998: for each function it appears in.)
> addrbook.c:3002: `h_abook_select_nicks_take' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3004: `h_abook_select_nick' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3006: `h_abook_select_checks' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3008: `h_abook_select_listmode' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3010: `h_abook_select_addr' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3013: `h_abook_select_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_opened' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c: In function `search_book':
> addrbook.c:6651: `h_oe_searchab' undeclared (first use this function)
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o'
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   -- Jim
>
> --
> James Dryfoos
> Manager - TACEng Proactive Analysis
> Worldcom - http://www.worldcom.com
>
>


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Your best bet might be to try compiling it from the sources yourself. We
don't use Solaris here except to compile pine on every once in a while. It
could be we have a non-standard Solaris or something like that. We use the
"gs5" port to build Solaris pine.

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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Arthur Snoke wrote:

> I am using Pine 4.43 prebuilt for Solaris 2.8, and I have had something
> happen several times which is a real pain.
>
> I will be composing a message and I go out (cntrl-O) to cut-paste
> something from another message and then try to go back to my original
> message.  Instead, I get
>
> C0".
> Pine Exiting.
> Abort
>
> When I restart pine, the message I was composing has disappeared so I have
> to start over.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Arthur Snoke
> [email protected]
>
>


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Thanks. Have tried. Also tried various combinations doing a clean in between each.
Am building with GS5.

 -- Jim


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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Steve Hubert wrote:

> No, it doesn't look like it has anything to do with LDAP. Try "build
> clean" and start over. It looks like the help routines were incorrectly
> built in an earlier build attempt.
>
> --
> Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
> Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, James Dryfoos wrote:
>
> > Am stuck on this one. Cannot find answer. Don't think this is dependant on the
> > LDAP stuff?
> >
> > Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
> > make CC=gcc LDAPLIBS=../ldap/libraries/libldap.a ../ldap/libraries/liblber.a
> > LDAPCFLAGS=-DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include -f makefile.gs5
> > gcc   -g -DDEBUG  -DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include  -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"GSO\"
> > -DMOUSE  -c  addrbook.c
> > addrbook.c: In function `addr_book':
> > addrbook.c:2998: `h_abook_config' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:2998: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> > addrbook.c:2998: for each function it appears in.)
> > addrbook.c:3002: `h_abook_select_nicks_take' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3004: `h_abook_select_nick' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3006: `h_abook_select_checks' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3008: `h_abook_select_listmode' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3010: `h_abook_select_addr' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3013: `h_abook_select_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_opened' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> > addrbook.c: In function `search_book':
> > addrbook.c:6651: `h_oe_searchab' undeclared (first use this function)
> > *** Error code 1
> > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o'
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >   -- Jim
> >
> > --
> > James Dryfoos
> > Manager - TACEng Proactive Analysis
> > Worldcom - http://www.worldcom.com
> >
> >
>


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Ok, this was solved be downloading the source again. Perhaps in last extraction
of source something went wrong?

Thanks for all responces.

 -- Jim


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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, James Dryfoos wrote:

> Am stuck on this one. Cannot find answer. Don't think this is dependant on the
> LDAP stuff?
>
> Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
> make CC=gcc LDAPLIBS=../ldap/libraries/libldap.a ../ldap/libraries/liblber.a
> LDAPCFLAGS=-DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include -f makefile.gs5
> gcc   -g -DDEBUG  -DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include  -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"GSO\"
> -DMOUSE  -c  addrbook.c
> addrbook.c: In function `addr_book':
> addrbook.c:2998: `h_abook_config' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:2998: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> addrbook.c:2998: for each function it appears in.)
> addrbook.c:3002: `h_abook_select_nicks_take' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3004: `h_abook_select_nick' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3006: `h_abook_select_checks' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3008: `h_abook_select_listmode' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3010: `h_abook_select_addr' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3013: `h_abook_select_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_opened' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> addrbook.c: In function `search_book':
> addrbook.c:6651: `h_oe_searchab' undeclared (first use this function)
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o'
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   -- Jim
>
> --
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> Manager - TACEng Proactive Analysis
> Worldcom - http://www.worldcom.com
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In between the

 make CC=gcc ...

line and the addrbook.c lines you should get something like

 ./cmplhlp2.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.h

and later

 ./cmplhelp.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.c

Those two files are where h_abook_config and friends are declared
and defined. A build clean should do this, too, but perhaps you could try
just removing

  .../pine/helptext.h and .../pine/helptext.c

and running the "build gs5" again. Maybe that will show you where it is
failing. Take a look at those two files, they should contain references to
the missing declarations.

Steve

On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, James Dryfoos wrote:

> Thanks. Have tried. Also tried various combinations doing a clean in between each.
> Am building with GS5.
>
>   -- Jim
>
>
> --
> James Dryfoos
> Manager - TACEng Proactive Analysis
> Worldcom - http://www.worldcom.com
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Steve Hubert wrote:
>
> > No, it doesn't look like it has anything to do with LDAP. Try "build
> > clean" and start over. It looks like the help routines were incorrectly
> > built in an earlier build attempt.
> >
> > --
> > Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
> > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, James Dryfoos wrote:
> >
> > > Am stuck on this one. Cannot find answer. Don't think this is dependant on the
> > > LDAP stuff?
> > >
> > > Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
> > > make CC=gcc LDAPLIBS=../ldap/libraries/libldap.a ../ldap/libraries/liblber.a
> > > LDAPCFLAGS=-DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include -f makefile.gs5
> > > gcc   -g -DDEBUG  -DENABLE_LDAP -I../ldap/include  -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"GSO\"
> > > -DMOUSE  -c  addrbook.c
> > > addrbook.c: In function `addr_book':
> > > addrbook.c:2998: `h_abook_config' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:2998: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> > > addrbook.c:2998: for each function it appears in.)
> > > addrbook.c:3002: `h_abook_select_nicks_take' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3004: `h_abook_select_nick' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3006: `h_abook_select_checks' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3008: `h_abook_select_listmode' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3010: `h_abook_select_addr' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3013: `h_abook_select_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_opened' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c:3016: `h_abook_top' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > addrbook.c: In function `search_book':
> > > addrbook.c:6651: `h_oe_searchab' undeclared (first use this function)
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o'
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >   -- Jim
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Dryfoos
> > > Manager - TACEng Proactive Analysis
> > > Worldcom - http://www.worldcom.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>


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Oops, sorry. I didn't see the other responses in the mailing list before
responding to my personal copies. I see now that the problem is solved
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 As I sure has happened in other places, there has been a major push on
our campus for accessability of computing resources for disabled users.

 We have set up a station that uses the JAWS speech software to read the
screen.  For some reason, it does not read the main Pine window.

 We have made the login process work by enabling "Use Dialog Boxes", but
would like to find a way to get it to read the message to the user.  We
are using PC-Pine 4.33, if Pine 4.44 is the key, let me know.

 Anyone have any experience with Pine in this situation?

Thanks,
Steve.



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Hello,

I'm a newbie to Pine and just upgraded from version 4.33 to 4.44, but
now i can't download my emails from the server.
Here is what my configuration looks like:

inbox-path= {mail-rp.acpub.duke.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=rpietro}inbox

customized headers= from:[email protected]

For the customized headers configuration to work, i had to change my
pinerc file, adding "allow-changing-from" in the feature-list.

This configuration was working with 4.33, but in 4.44 i get a
message saying that it cannot connect to my inbox path.

Any suggestions about what i am doing wrong?

thanks,


Rick




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Hi all,

I currently have my default-fcc set to my inbox.  For the most part, this
works quite well.  However, there is a delay between the sending of
the mail and the updating of the folder.  When the folder is updated, pine
rings the bell, falsely making me believe that there is new mail.  Is
there a way to suppress the bell when I am the sender of the new message?

Thanks.

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Tony Tung wrote:
> the mail and the updating of the folder.  When the folder is updated, pine
> rings the bell, falsely making me believe that there is new mail.  Is
> there a way to suppress the bell when I am the sender of the new message?


No, there is not a way to suppress the bell like that.  On the other
hand, you can do away with the delay by going to the last message in
the folder, and then using "N" or down-arrow to try to move beyond
the last message.  When you try to do so, Pine will check for new mail
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> the mail and the updating of the folder.  When the folder is updated,
> pine rings the bell, falsely making me believe that there is new mail.
> Is there a way to suppress the bell when I am the sender of the new
> message?

Actually, I'm just as glad to hear the bell and notice that it's gotten
through.

Freda Birnbaum


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Hi,

At times I like to cut and paste text from an email (Pine 4.44 on Solaris
running under xterm or rxvt -- without enable-mouse-in-xterm) into vi, a new
email message or something else.  Lately, I have been having problem where
spaces are added at the end of each line up to the edge of the screen. These are
inserted along with my selected text and cause the lines to be padded out (with
spaces) longer than should be. This did not used to happen and does not happen
with other xterms/apps ... I have been trying to figure out if this is a Pine
thing or something related to my environment. So far, I have only been able to
duplicate in Pine. It seems like the actual end of line is being lost.

Thanks in advance,

 -- Jim


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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote:

> > the mail and the updating of the folder.  When the folder is updated,
> > pine rings the bell, falsely making me believe that there is new mail.
> > Is there a way to suppress the bell when I am the sender of the new
> > message?
>
> Actually, I'm just as glad to hear the bell and notice that it's gotten
> through.

The fact that the fcc made it doesn't imply that it has gotten to the
intended recipient, though.



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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Tony Tung wrote:

> > Actually, I'm just as glad to hear the bell and notice that it's gotten
> > through.
>
> The fact that the fcc made it doesn't imply that it has gotten to the
> intended recipient, though.

For sure.  It is a clue, though.


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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote:

> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:49:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Freda B Birnbaum <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: fcc to inbox
>
> > the mail and the updating of the folder.  When the folder is updated,
> > pine rings the bell, falsely making me believe that there is new mail.
> > Is there a way to suppress the bell when I am the sender of the new
> > message?
>
> Actually, I'm just as glad to hear the bell and notice that it's gotten
> through.
>
> Freda Birnbaum
>
>
>

I find that the only way to know that email has "gotten through", is by
the use of a return receipt request, which I have so far been unable to
use in PINE (I am using 4.21), so, for messages for which I want that
information, I have to use either Netscape Messenger, or Star Office
Mail. A Bcc to me, gives me a copy in my PINE folders.

I wonder at the reason for the redirection of the Fcc, from instead of
going to the sent-mail folder, to the INBOX folder.

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I have seen this too.   I am using Pine 4.44 on Solaris 2.8.  It is very
frustrating sometimes when you want to save the e-mail into vi - you have
to go to each and every line and take out that extra spaces...

Thanks,
Z

/Shankar

At 5:49pm 04/22/02 -0400, James Dryfoos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At times I like to cut and paste text from an email (Pine 4.44 on Solaris
> running under xterm or rxvt -- without enable-mouse-in-xterm) into vi, a new
> email message or something else.  Lately, I have been having problem where
> spaces are added at the end of each line up to the edge of the screen. These are
> inserted along with my selected text and cause the lines to be padded out (with
> spaces) longer than should be. This did not used to happen and does not happen
> with other xterms/apps ... I have been trying to figure out if this is a Pine
> thing or something related to my environment. So far, I have only been able to
> duplicate in Pine. It seems like the actual end of line is being lost.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>   -- Jim
>
>
> --
> James Dryfoos
> Manager - TACEng Proactive Analysis
> Worldcom - http://www.worldcom.com
>
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Bret Busby wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote:
>
> > Actually, I'm just as glad to hear the bell and notice that it's gotten
> > through.
> >
> > Freda Birnbaum
>
> I find that the only way to know that email has "gotten through", is by
> the use of a return receipt request, which I have so far been unable to
> use in PINE (I am using 4.21), so, for messages for which I want that
> information, I have to use either Netscape Messenger, or Star Office
> Mail. A Bcc to me, gives me a copy in my PINE folders.

There's the enable-delivery-status-notification option.  I don't know
which version it was introduced.  It does not request a
message-has-been-read receipt, however.

> I wonder at the reason for the redirection of the Fcc, from instead of
> going to the sent-mail folder, to the INBOX folder.

It makes it easier to track a conversation.  I don't have to switch back
and forth between inbox and sent-mail.  It also makes the fancy threading
patch by Eduardo Chappa work a lot better.




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*** Tony Tung ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) > I wonder at the reason for the redirection of the Fcc, from instead
:) > of going to the sent-mail folder, to the INBOX folder.
:)
:) It makes it easier to track a conversation.  I don't have to switch
:) back and forth between inbox and sent-mail.  It also makes the fancy
:) threading patch by Eduardo Chappa work a lot better.

The real problem has to do with the handling of the "References:" header
when replying to an e-mail message (or replying to a post in a newsgroup
only through e-mail). I also agree with you that your idea makes threads
look better. It's probable that the best thing to ask for is to ask the
Pine team to add the References header when replying by e-mail. This
header should be used according to RFC 2822, so it would be a good
improvement in Pine. The problems are that:

 - Pine does not generate the References header, if non existing,
   when replying only by e-mail, and

 - Pine drops the References header when replying by e-mail (not if the
   reply goes to a newsgroup, though).

 I modified the fancy thread patch so that Pine adds the References
header when replying by e-mail, precisely for the same reason that Tony
uses his INBOX as fcc folder. I hope this will help aliviate in part the
problem that Tony is trying to solve (this means that exchanging e-mail
between two patched versions of Pine will make threads look good, even if
the fcc is not INBOX, but exchanging e-mail with an unpatched version of
Pine will not, because of the reasons explained above).

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 [email protected] wrote:
>From: James Dryfoos <[email protected]>
>At times I like to cut and paste text from an email (Pine 4.44 on Solaris
>running under xterm or rxvt -- without enable-mouse-in-xterm) into vi, a new
>email message or something else.  Lately, I have been having problem where
>spaces are added at the end of each line up to the edge of the screen. These are
>inserted along with my selected text and cause the lines to be padded out (with
>spaces) longer than should be. This did not used to happen and does not happen
>with other xterms/apps ... I have been trying to figure out if this is a Pine
>thing or something related to my environment. So far, I have only been able to
>duplicate in Pine. It seems like the actual end of line is being lost.

Are you sure that these aren't "format=flowed" messages?

I honestly know very little about this format, but it's some kind of
downwardly-compatible mail sending format so that a mailer that
understands the format can rewrap paragraphs and such, but
it (allegedly) doesn't hurt unaware mailers.

One of the features is that every line ends with space<cr> (or maybe it's
space<lf>).

This leads to a question of mine.  Sometimes I have messages that
DO NOT show up quoted in pine, but DO show up quoted in Mail.app.

For example, to me it shows up as something like:

so and so said:
whatever whatever

Yeah I really agree with you..


and the first two lines appear quoted, but to me it all appears flush on the
left like that.

I can't see anything in the raw text to figure out what's going on.
Is this the same format=flowed situation?

If so, any chance of pine being able to view this format=flowed,
and hopefully even convert to >-quoted lines when replying (and viewing)?


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Does anyone use Pine on the DEC/Compaq Alpha's under Open VMS or on MicroVaxes
under Vax/VMS.  I am looking for an email facility that will receive, store, and
maybe use attachments from Windows Word, Excel, etc.   VMS by default does not
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 Same here.  Anything interesting...?

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Hi, All!

I'm not sure that my question could be really assigned to the pine
society.
I have the following problem:

It is not a secret that one could send email directly from Unix shell
(we use Linux, bash, etc...) with the help of 'mail' program,
e.g. $mail -s "some news" [email protected] < news_file

I need to send some files as email attachment, with single shell
command.
Nowdays I'm using expect script that spawn pine program:
spawn pine -attach_list file1 file2  [email protected]
after that send CTRLX, send "y".

Could you please inform me about additional ways to resolve my problem

Thank you.
Artemii S. Ivanov





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Hi... I'm a long-time pine user and I'm finally about to have pine on
a non-restricted machine (i.e. where I have a shell account), which
means I get to configure pine to send attachments with 'sz'.
This feature rocks but I have the same problem mentioned in the
below message from 2 years ago.

Downloading a wrongly-named file sort of negates the convenience of
the "download" command.  I have to find the file and rename it to the
right name (this is amplified by the fact that I'm downloading to
Windows, where keeping the file extension intact has nice benefits).

Has anything come of this?  Any plans to modify 'download-command'
so that it uses the attachment's real filename?


| To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
| Subject: Downloading Attachments
| From: "Sean Gurevich" <[email protected]>
| Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:03:23 -0500
|
|       I use 'sz' as my 'download-command' option. This works fine for
| downloading the attachment through my telnet app which internally
supports
| zmodem downloading; however, the downloaded file is saved with the temp
| name rather than the attachment name. I'm using Pine v4.05L on UNIX. Is
| there anyway I can change this behavior by modifying the
| 'download-command' property? I'm hoping to get a solution to this
problem
| that doesn't require upgrading to a new version of Pine because I don't
| have control over the server I'm using.



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*** Artemy Ivanov ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) I need to send some files as email attachment, with single shell
:) command. Nowdays I'm using expect script that spawn pine program: spawn
:) pine -attach_list file1 file2 [email protected] after that send CTRLX,
:) send "y".
:)
:) Could you please inform me about additional ways to resolve my problem

You can try a patch that I wrote, which allows you to do this, and which
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Scott Evans wrote:

> Hi... I'm a long-time pine user and I'm finally about to have pine on
> a non-restricted machine (i.e. where I have a shell account), which
> means I get to configure pine to send attachments with 'sz'.
> This feature rocks but I have the same problem mentioned in the
> below message from 2 years ago.
>
> Downloading a wrongly-named file sort of negates the convenience of
> the "download" command.  I have to find the file and rename it to the
> right name (this is amplified by the fact that I'm downloading to
> Windows, where keeping the file extension intact has nice benefits).
>
> Has anything come of this?  Any plans to modify 'download-command'
> so that it uses the attachment's real filename?

I do this very thing. I'll show you my setup, although I don't remember why
everything works the way it does.

The key is a file named ".mailcap", in your home directory. If it's not there,
create it. Here's part of mine:

############ .mailcap ##########
# Note: Pine apparently needs enable-mailcap-param-substitution flag set in
# order to do parameter substitution
image/*;            ~/downstart %s %t; needsterminal
# Note: following depends on entry in /etc/mime.types
Application/PDF;    ~/downstart %s app/pdf; needsterminal
Application/MSWORD; ~/downstart %s app/doc; needsterminal
Application/PCX;          ~/downstart %s app/pcx; needsterminal
###### end .mailcap #####

Pine uses this file to know how to different types. All these entries
reference a shell script in my root directory called downstart. Here it is:

### downstart ###
# format is:
#   parameter 1 is temporary file name
#   parameter 2 is MIME type
#   optional parameter 3 is name
#
# figure out extension based on MIME type
echo "File name is " $1
echo "Data type is " $2
ext=`echo $2 | cut -d"/" -f2`
echo "extension is " $ext
echo "filename should be " $1.$ext
ONAME=$1.$ext;export ONAME
# if we have a name, use it
if [ "$3" != "" ]; then
  ONAME=$3; export ONAME
  echo "filename should NOW be " $3
fi
echo "file name on UNIX is " $1
cat $1 | sz -y -
printf "\n\n\034winstart \${anz_last_recd}\035"
### end downstart ###

The 2nd to the last line actually does the "sz" (send zmodem) command. The
environment variable ONAME is used by sz to name the output name, when the
input name is a pipe.

The last line is specific to our telnet program, Anzio. It tells Anzio to do
the equivalent of a Windows "start" command on the last file received.

The net result is that, for instance, an attachment of type
"Application/MSWORD" will get a ".doc" stuck on it, downloaded, and then the
doc file will get STARTed in Windows, which causes Windows to open it with the
associated program.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
...Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

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Thanks Bob, that's cool.  I tweaked it a little for my usage and it's
working well.  It's too bad that there's no way to preserve the original
filename; after reading the .mailcap RFC I don't see a way to do it.

I guess for a clean solution pine could have a "save attachment with real
name" option or some such.




scott




On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Scott Evans wrote:
>
> > Hi... I'm a long-time pine user and I'm finally about to have pine on
> > a non-restricted machine (i.e. where I have a shell account), which
> > means I get to configure pine to send attachments with 'sz'.
> > This feature rocks but I have the same problem mentioned in the
> > below message from 2 years ago.
> >
> > Downloading a wrongly-named file sort of negates the convenience of
> > the "download" command.  I have to find the file and rename it to the
> > right name (this is amplified by the fact that I'm downloading to
> > Windows, where keeping the file extension intact has nice benefits).
> >
> > Has anything come of this?  Any plans to modify 'download-command'
> > so that it uses the attachment's real filename?
>
> I do this very thing. I'll show you my setup, although I don't remember why
> everything works the way it does.
>
> The key is a file named ".mailcap", in your home directory. If it's not there,
> create it. Here's part of mine:
>
> ############ .mailcap ##########
> # Note: Pine apparently needs enable-mailcap-param-substitution flag set in
> # order to do parameter substitution
> image/*;            ~/downstart %s %t; needsterminal
> # Note: following depends on entry in /etc/mime.types
> Application/PDF;    ~/downstart %s app/pdf; needsterminal
> Application/MSWORD; ~/downstart %s app/doc; needsterminal
> Application/PCX;          ~/downstart %s app/pcx; needsterminal
> ###### end .mailcap #####
>
> Pine uses this file to know how to different types. All these entries
> reference a shell script in my root directory called downstart. Here it is:
>
> ### downstart ###
> # format is:
> #   parameter 1 is temporary file name
> #   parameter 2 is MIME type
> #   optional parameter 3 is name
> #
> # figure out extension based on MIME type
> echo "File name is " $1
> echo "Data type is " $2
> ext=`echo $2 | cut -d"/" -f2`
> echo "extension is " $ext
> echo "filename should be " $1.$ext
> ONAME=$1.$ext;export ONAME
> # if we have a name, use it
> if [ "$3" != "" ]; then
>    ONAME=$3; export ONAME
>    echo "filename should NOW be " $3
> fi
> echo "file name on UNIX is " $1
> cat $1 | sz -y -
> printf "\n\n\034winstart \${anz_last_recd}\035"
> ### end downstart ###
>
> The 2nd to the last line actually does the "sz" (send zmodem) command. The
> environment variable ONAME is used by sz to name the output name, when the
> input name is a pipe.
>
> The last line is specific to our telnet program, Anzio. It tells Anzio to do
> the equivalent of a Windows "start" command on the last file received.
>
> The net result is that, for instance, an attachment of type
> "Application/MSWORD" will get a ".doc" stuck on it, downloaded, and then the
> doc file will get STARTed in Windows, which causes Windows to open it with the
> associated program.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> ....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.
>
> personal e-mail: [email protected]
>  company e-mail: [email protected]
>           voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time)
>             fax: (US) 503-624-0760
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>
>


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hello,
   can i get documentation about the imap library,
which comes along with pine. i wish to write an
application in which i need to access user maildirs
and get access to their mails.

thanks for the help,
nimit.

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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, nimit gupta wrote:
>     can i get documentation about the imap library,
> which comes along with pine.

Look inside the
 imap/docs
folder of the pine distribution.

-Jacob Morzinski


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See the latest FAQs on the IMAP Information Center:
http://www.washington.edu/imap/

7.19 and 7.27 should be of help.  - Lynne


On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, B.H. wrote:

> I have searched around and not found anything about this behavior:
>
> Why is it that pine drops the pop3 session while you are reading mail?  Is
> there a way to force pine to download the entire contents of my mailbox so
> that I can take my time browsing messages?  Otherwise, I have to exit the
> program and restart to get the remainder of my messages.
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Greetings,

I use qmail, procmail, and Courier-IMAP, the last of which requires mail
folders to be Maildirs as subdirectories under the main Maildir, starting
with a dot.  For example:

INBOX:     ~/Maildir/new (cur, tmp)
folder-1:  ~/Maildir/.folder-1/new (cur, tmp)
folder-2:  ~/Maildir/.folder-2/new (cur, tmp)

I'd like to be able to use Pine locally, on the server (i.e. without
making a localhost IMAP connection).

I built Pine 4.44 with the Maildir patch available here:

 http://www.arctic.org/~dean/patches/pine-4.44-maildir.patch

Problem: Pine handles the INBOX maildir just fine, but does not let me use
my mail folders.  I selected "enable-dot-folders" in .pinerc, and set
"mail-directory=~/Maildir/" (I also tried "=~/Maildir") in both
/usr/lib/pine/pine.conf and $HOME/.pinerc, but I can't make my folders
appear in any case.

Suggestions?

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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Kevin DeGraaf wrote:

> Problem: Pine handles the INBOX maildir just fine, but does not let me use
> my mail folders.  I selected "enable-dot-folders" in .pinerc, and set
> "mail-directory=~/Maildir/" (I also tried "=~/Maildir") in both
> /usr/lib/pine/pine.conf and $HOME/.pinerc, but I can't make my folders
> appear in any case.

> Suggestions?

Have you tried "enable lame list mode"? I needed that to see my folders on
Panix.

       -Kenny

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hello,

  i wish to make use of functions which can open
some ones mail and fetch and send and things like
that... so i need to know or see some examples to
understand how to make use of available functions and
different structures.. so can i find some
documentation for that.


with regards,
nimit.

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