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Hey,

I find that I'm just sooooo lazy. While I'm not a horrible
speller, I, as most, make mistakes in spelling & typos. I've not
seen anything about making ispell start up when hitting ctrl-x
for each message. I know this would annoy most people, but I'd
like it. Is there a setting I've missed which does that?

Meph

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From: Kenneth Crudup <[email protected]>
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I've just upgraded to 4.40 vs. 4.33, and I use IMAP to a provider that
does "IMAP before SMTP" (where I have to be authorized via the IMAP
server before I can use the SMTP server, with a 30-minute window).

If I don't get/send any E-mail before the 30-min window expires, I get
"Access Denied" errors when the "SMTP" part fails. This didn't happen
with 4.33, and some rudimentary tracing of the debug output makes it
appear that whatever 4.33 was doing when it was idle isn't being done
in 4.40 .

-Kenny

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Hi, All, :/

I'm just getting started using MyRealBox as my e-mail host, and I must
say it's been a rocky start.

MyRealBox is a free e-mail hosting server that is supported by Novell
as a test-bed for their NIMS (Novell Internet Message System)
platform. Since it's a test-bed, I expect it to not be perfect.

However, it seems to have some IMAP implementation problems, and I'm
wondering if anyone else has seen any of these:

1) It *seems* to note be formatting the IMAP body correctly. I'm not
certain of this, but problems that I've had ("Not a string"
messages, "Junk at end of header" messages, etc.) seem to
correspond to others on comp.mail.pine. The response to those
requests has always been "your server is screwed up and adding
illegal spaces in the IMAP body."

2) I can't get it to SEARCH. No matter what SEARCH terms I use, the
IMAP response is always "* SEARCH" with no message IDs (indicating
that nothing was found).

This is *seriously* frustrating, and while I don't believe this is a
Pine problem specifically, I would sure appreciate anyone's feedback.

Thank you very much,

---Jason

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From: Eric Guilyardi <[email protected]>
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Hello,

I am using pine 3.96 and wish to print my emails via a2ps.
I configured the printing set-up with a custom command and
at the moment, the title I get on the document is 'stdin'.
Is there a way I can send to a2ps another title (like sender's name) ?

Thanks for your help,

Eric

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From: David Dyck <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: a2ps title in printing
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Eric Guilyardi wrote:

> I am using pine 3.96 and wish to print my emails via a2ps.
> I configured the printing set-up with a custom command and
> at the moment, the title I get on the document is 'stdin'.
> Is there a way I can send to a2ps another title (like sender's name) ?

Eric,

I pipe my pine printouts through a perl script that collects the subject
like this one, I don't use a2ps, so you'll need to change the
last few line to invoke a2ps with appropiate args, instead of
psnup. Does this give you and idea?
David

#!/usr/local/bin/perl

$user = $ENV{'LOGNAME'};
while(<STDIN>) {
push(@lines, $_);
if (/^Subject:\s*/) {
$subject=$';
chop $subject;
$subject =~ s/(["`\\\$])/\\$1/g; # quote all special chars \, ", `, $
$cmd = "psnup -N -L \"$user\" -C \"$subject\" | lpr -h";
open(OUT, "|$cmd");
print OUT @lines, <STDIN>;
close OUT;
exit;
}
}

open(OUT, "|psnup -N -C \"user\" | lpr -h");
print OUT @lines, <STDIN>;
close OUT;

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David,

yes it works.

Thanks for your help.

Eric

On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, David Dyck wrote:

|On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Eric Guilyardi wrote:
|
|> I am using pine 3.96 and wish to print my emails via a2ps.
|> I configured the printing set-up with a custom command and
|> at the moment, the title I get on the document is 'stdin'.
|> Is there a way I can send to a2ps another title (like sender's name) ?
|
|Eric,
|
|I pipe my pine printouts through a perl script that collects the subject
|like this one, I don't use a2ps, so you'll need to change the
|last few line to invoke a2ps with appropiate args, instead of
|psnup. Does this give you and idea?
| David
|
|#!/usr/local/bin/perl
|
|$user = $ENV{'LOGNAME'};
|while(<STDIN>) {
| push(@lines, $_);
| if (/^Subject:\s*/) {
| $subject=$';
| chop $subject;
| $subject =~ s/(["`\\\$])/\\$1/g; # quote all special chars \, ", `, $
| $cmd = "psnup -N -L \"$user\" -C \"$subject\" | lpr -h";
| open(OUT, "|$cmd");
| print OUT @lines, <STDIN>;
| close OUT;
| exit;
| }
|}
|
|open(OUT, "|psnup -N -C \"user\" | lpr -h");
|print OUT @lines, <STDIN>;
|close OUT;
|
|

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University of Reading Tel: +44 (0)118 987 5123, ext 7883
Reading RG6 6BB - UK Fax: +44 (0)118 931 8316
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I've experienced a problem with pine 4.40 freezing for about a minute
after running it. I ran it with debug level 9, and no useful output was
revealed.

Here's what I do get:

---
01:07:31.346757
Debug output of the Pine program (debug=9 debug_imap=4). Version 4.40
Wed Oct 10 01:07:31 2001

01:08:52.937194
reading_pinerc "/etc/pine.conf"
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The pause is inbetween this pair of output. I was wondering if anyone else
has experienced this problem. I've seen some billion second patches out
for accessing maildir/qmail boxes. Perhaps this is another billion second
bug?

Thanks for your input & help.

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All,

I get the following message below trying to open a particular mail
folder.

[Invalid UID 00000170 in message 368, rebuilding UIDs ]

and the message # increments as well as the UID number

Does anyone know why I am getting this message?? I can't access any of
the messages in the folder. I'm using pc-pine 4.40.

Thanks

William R. Van Kuyk
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From: Tommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>
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I have major problems with the roles in Pine 4.33 and Pine 4.40. They just
do not work as intended.

I have the following two roles in this order:

Nickname = Hazor
To pattern = <No Value Set>
>From pattern = <No Value Set>
Sender pattern = <No Value Set>
Cc pattern = <No Value Set>
News pattern = <No Value Set>
Subject pattern = <No Value Set>
Recip pattern = <No Value Set>
Partic pattern = <No Value Set>
AllText pattern = <No Value Set>
Score interval = <No Value Set>

Current Folder Type =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
( ) Any
( ) News
( ) Email
(*) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
Folder List = INBOX

Nickname = Ope
To pattern = <No Value Set>
>From pattern = <No Value Set>
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Cc pattern = <No Value Set>
News pattern = <No Value Set>
Subject pattern = <No Value Set>
Recip pattern = <No Value Set>
Partic pattern = <No Value Set>
AllText pattern = <No Value Set>
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Current Folder Type =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Any
( ) News
( ) Email
( ) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
Folder List =

Both of the roles have compose, forward and reply usages defined to
without confirmation. Everything else is in default condition except
for different From: line for both of them.

Now if I try to compose a new message then it works fine. Hazor-role is
offered in INBOX and Ope-role is offered in every other folder.

But if I try to reply or forward to any messages then Pine doesn't find
the right role even that it should!

And Yes, I have tried to check the option:

[X] confirm-role-even-for-default

With this option the Pine always asks which role to use. It becomes rather
annoying to pick the right role every time I am replying to someone when
it could be done automatically by Pine.

Pine knows the right role with compose but not with reply and forward.
Is there something wrong with my configuration or understanding or is
there a serious bug in Pine?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
And then some comments about the following part of the role configuration:

Current Folder Type =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Any
( ) News
( ) Email
( ) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
Folder List =

In the specific-section if you use ^T you can choose only one folder.
Everytime you use ^T all the previous folders in the list get replaced
with the new one.

And does it really have to be an Incoming folder here? It would be very
nice if I could use my read-messages-folders also here.

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and about filtering rules:

Would it be possible to get a NOT-operation
in the filtering rules? It would make easier to filter out mails which
are not sent directly to your address. For example, I could filter all
my mailing lists with normal roles and then as a last role I could write
something like this:

Nickname = Spam
To pattern = [email protected]

! stands here for NOT. I could filter all the rest (probably spam)
somewhere where it could be easily deleted. And all the normal mail
would end up in my INBOX.

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Is there someway to insert my Usenet password into Pine similar to
the /user= token on collections?

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Can regexps be used as filtering strings with Pine ?

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> Can regexps be used as filtering strings with Pine ?

Nope, for that sort of granularity, you'll need to use something like
Procmail, or another tool that handles your mail before Pine gets ahold of
it.

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*** John A. Perry ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Is there someway to insert my Usenet password into Pine similar to
:) the /user= token on collections?

No, If you are using Unix Pine, you need to recompile it. Edit the file
pine4.40/pine/pine.h and add the following line

#define PASSFILE "pine.pwd"

after recompiling, create an empty file called "pine.pwd" in your $HOME
directory. The rest of the process is taken care of by Pine.

If you are using PC-Pine you only need to create an empty file called
"pine.pwd" in the same directory that your PINERC file is in.

You can also hide your password file in some other place by changing the
name to a path relative to $HOME (not a full path, there's a bug in the
code that makes it not work).

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*** Tommi Lahtonen ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I have major problems with the roles in Pine 4.33 and Pine 4.40. They just
:) do not work as intended.
:)
:) Both of the roles have compose, forward and reply usages defined to
:) without confirmation. Everything else is in default condition except
:) for different From: line for both of them.
:)
:) Now if I try to compose a new message then it works fine. Hazor-role is
:) offered in INBOX and Ope-role is offered in every other folder.
:)
:) But if I try to reply or forward to any messages then Pine doesn't find
:) the right role even that it should!

I tried to reproduce this, but couldn't. Could you cut and paste the
definitions of your roles from the .pinerc file?

:) And Yes, I have tried to check the option:
:)
:) [X] confirm-role-even-for-default

You should uncheck this option.

:) and about filtering rules:
:)
:) Would it be possible to get a NOT-operation in the filtering rules?

The way to do this in Pine is to set a score. You must define a score rule
that gives a score, say of 10, to every message that goes to
[email protected], then use the field "Score interval" in the definition
of the filter to set that messages with a score less than 10 be filtered
somewhere else.

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On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Tommi Lahtonen ([email protected]) wrote on Oct 13, 2001:
>
> :) > I tried to reproduce this, but couldn't. Could you cut and paste the
> :) > definitions of your roles from the .pinerc file?
> :)
> :) Here they are:
> :)
> :) # Patterns and their actions are stored here.
> :) patterns-roles=LIT:pattern="/NICK=Hazor/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX" action="/ROLE=1/FROM=Tommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/FCC=sent-mail-hazor/SIG=\/home\/hazor\/bin\/omasig|/RTYPE=NC/FTYPE=NC/CTYPE=NC",
> :) LIT:pattern="/NICK=ope/TO=/FROM=/SENDER=/CC=/RECIP=/PARTIC=/NEWS=/SUBJ=/ALL=/FLDTYPE=ANY" action="/ROLE=1/FROM=Tommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/FCC=sent-mail-ope/SIG=\/home\/hazor\/bin\/opesig|/RTYPE=NC/FTYPE=NC/CTYPE=NC"
>
> Thank you. I noticed that the second filter has values set to <Empty
> Value> and not to <No Value Set>. That makes a difference. "<Emtpy Value>"
> means that the header is not present, but "<No Value Set>" means that you
> do not care if that header exist or the value that it has, so change the
> role "ope" to be

Oops. These must have been from some old testings and I didn't notice the
wrong values anymore. Now it works perfectly. Thank you for your help.

Pine is a great program :)

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On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> Thank you. I noticed that the second filter has values set to <Empty
> Value> and not to <No Value Set>. That makes a difference. "<Emtpy Valu=
e>"
> means that the header is not present, but "<No Value Set>" means that y=
ou
> do not care if that header exist or the value that it has, so change th=
e
> role "ope" to be
>
> LIT:pattern=3D"/NICK=3Dope/FLDTYPE=3DANY" action=3D"/ROLE=3D1/FROM=3DTo=
mmi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/FCC=3Dsent-mail-ope/SIG=3D\/home\/hazor\=
/bin\/opesig|/RTYPE=3DNC/FTYPE=3DNC/CTYPE=3DNC"
>
> and that should make it work.

Now more problems. I have now several roles and some of them work just
like they should work and some of them do not. It looks like that it
depends of the folder name?

I have the following roles:

# Patterns and their actions are stored here.
patterns-roles=3DLIT:pattern=3D"/NICK=3DHazor/FLDTYPE=3DSPEC/FOLDER=3DINBOX=
" action=3D"/ROLE=3D1/FROM=3DTommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/FCC=3Dsent-mail-=
hazor/SIG=3D\/home\/hazor\/bin\/omasig|/RTYPE=3DNC/FTYPE=3DNC/CTYPE=3DNC",
=09LIT:pattern=3D"/NICK=3DTyhj=E4 Joukko/FLDTYPE=3DSPEC/FOLDER=3DTJ" action=
=3D"/INICK=3DHazor/ROLE=3D1/FROM=3DTommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/R=
TYPE=3DNC/FTYPE=3DNC/CTYPE=3DNC",
=09LIT:pattern=3D"/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=3DSPEC/FOLDER=3DW3C" a=
ction=3D"/[email protected]/ROLE=3D1/RTYPE=3DNC/FTYPE=3DNC/CTYPE=
=3DNC",
=09LIT:pattern=3D"/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=3DSPEC/FOLDER=3DScene" acti=
on=3D"/INICK=3Dhazor/ROLE=3D1/FROM=3DTommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/RTYPE=
=3DNC/FTYPE=3DNC/CTYPE=3DNC",
=09LIT:pattern=3D"/[email protected]/FLDTYPE=3DANY" action=3D"/INI=
CK=3Dhazor/ROLE=3D1/FROM=3DTommi Lahtonen <[email protected]>/FCC=3Dsent-=
mail-ope/SIG=3D\/home\/hazor\/bin\/opesig|/RTYPE=3DNC/FTYPE=3DNC/CTYPE=3DNC=
"

The first role works just fine but the second one (Tyhj=E4 Joukko) doesn't
work. Every time I try to compose a message in TJ-folder I get the last
role and not the Tyhj=E4 Joukko -role.

The third role ([email protected]) has the same problem.

fourth role ([email protected]) works just fine. Except if I add another
folder to it for example read-messages-Scene. After that this role still
works in Scene-folder but it will not start working in
read-messages-Scene-folder.

--=20
Tommi Lahtonen, [email protected], <URL: http://www.iki.fi/hazor/>

The most hopelessly stupid man is he who is not aware that he is wise.

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Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible to change
the sound that PCpine plays when a new mail arrives.
It is not using the one defined within the M$windows->control panel
->sounds environment (the one that netscape messenger or
M$ lookout uses).

Thanks/Bertrand

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I had Pine running fine (v4.33) then I updated to OS 10.1. Now, no
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error. Pine functions fine, except when I hit ^X to send a mail. If
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I'm running Pine 4.40 under RedHat Linux 7.1. I'm trying to set up
a Role that applies a specific signature based on what newsgroup I'm
posting to. The problem is that I can go into Role setup, specify the
newsgroup I want the role to apply to on the Newsgroups line, mark the
folder type as News, but it doesn't seem to work correctly. Instead of the
specific newsgroup being affected, ALL newsgroups I select want to use
that signature. It's as if the Newsgroups header field is being ignored
and Pine is just picking up on the fact that I'm posting to a newsgroup
and is setting the sig based on folder-type instead of header content. Or,
I could just be doing it wrong. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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On 20 Oct 2001 John A. Perry ([email protected]) wrote:
> I'm running Pine 4.40 under RedHat Linux 7.1. I'm trying to set up
> a Role that applies a specific signature based on what newsgroup I'm
> posting to. The problem is that I can go into Role setup, specify the
> newsgroup I want the role to apply to on the Newsgroups line, mark the
> folder type as News, but it doesn't seem to work correctly. Instead of the
> specific newsgroup being affected, ALL newsgroups I select want to use
> that signature. It's as if the Newsgroups header field is being ignored
> and Pine is just picking up on the fact that I'm posting to a newsgroup
> and is setting the sig based on folder-type instead of header content. Or,
> I could just be doing it wrong. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Try unsetting all your patterns (so they say <No Value Set>) and then
set the Current Folder Type to

(*) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
Folder List = {my.news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine

where my.news.server is replaced with your news server's name and
comp.mail.pine is replaced with the newsgroup you're setting the role up
for. Now open the folder {my.news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine and
compose a message. Let us know if this works.

HTH,
Nancy
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Nancy McGough wrote:

> On 20 Oct 2001 John A. Perry ([email protected]) wrote:
> > I'm running Pine 4.40 under RedHat Linux 7.1. I'm trying to set up

> Try unsetting all your patterns (so they say <No Value Set>) and then
> set the Current Folder Type to
>
> (*) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
> Folder List = {my.news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine
> for. Now open the folder {my.news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine and
> compose a message. Let us know if this works.

Yes! That seems to do the trick. It's rather obtuse but it works.

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Howdy,

I have a problem that I can only reproduce in 4.40 -- trying the same
thing in 4.33 doesn't generate an error. All versions are being used
under RedHat 7.1, and others in my office have reported similar problems,
while using 4.40.

I get a fair amount of spam, and dutifully report as much as I can to
spamcop. However, some of the spam is not only annoying, but it causes
pine to becom unusable. Specifically, I get some that contain subject
lines similar to the below:

Subject: (=B1=A4=B0=ED) [=C8=F1=BC=D2=BD=C4] =B9=DF=C0=CC =BA=D2=C6=ED=C7=
=CF=B0=C5=B3=AA =C0=DA=C1=D6 =BA=D7=B0=ED =BD=AC =C7=C7=B7=CE=C7=D1 =BA=D0

Of course, that's a lot of characters that I can't read. The body of the
message has a lot more text using characters like that. If I receive a
message like this in 4.40, or go to a folder that contains a message like
this, pine immediately starts generating errors like this:

[Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffb1]

at the bottom of my pine session. The last bit ('ffffffb1') keeps changing
to other hex sequences, which means that this error continues to be
generated repeatedly. A glance at the journal confirms this. This is a
problem because the constant generation of error messages doesn't let me
execute any commands. I think there's so much output that the terminal
can't keep up, and input is hampered. Eventually, the errors stop (I would
imagine that it's reporting an error for each invalid character that it
encounters), but until then, I can't use pine. Sometimes it's a few
minutes before this stops.

I've done the exact same thing in 4.33, using the same .pinerc, and I
don't get the error message. My character-set is set to ISO-8859-1. I
have tried it in US-ASCII, but I can't imagine that would help. I can try
others, but I'm not sure what others will help debug this.

If anyone needs more/better description of the problem, please let me
know. I also have a copy of one of the offending emails, but I'd rather
not send it along unless someone asks for it.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice/smack on the head for not finding an
FAQ about this.

Joel

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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 [email protected] wrote:
>Subject: Pine error on Mac OS X
>I had Pine running fine (v4.33) then I updated to OS 10.1. Now, no
>matter what version of Pine I use (have tried a variety of binaries
>and self compiled versions of 4.33 and 4.40) I always get a recurring
>error. Pine functions fine, except when I hit ^X to send a mail. If
>I have a filter installed (PGP4Pine), the error occurs after I get
>through the filter's prompts. Without a filter installed, it happens
>right away. It seems that right upon the moment of sending, Pine
>gives me the following message:
>
>Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
>Pine Exiting.
>Abort
>
>It drops me back to the command line here. The interesting thing is
>that the mail does actually get sent. What is going on here and how
>might I fix this?

I don't have any filters of this type (send filters?) installed, so I'm
not getting this error. I use pine as my primary mail program on OSX.
(actually I want to get XPine installed to have a SLIGHT GUI shim on top of
a nice, fast, mostly-text-based email program.. so I can have multiple messages
open for example.. but XPine is based upon an older pine, and it looks like
a pain, etc.. I someone knows of another GUI mail program that
1) does IMAP, 2) lets you PREFER plain text, and 3) does > style quoting, and
4) runs natively on OSX, let me know about it.. I bet I've tried the few that
do, and they all have serious problems. Mail comes the closest, but especially
doesn't do #3)

Anyway, sorry, to your problem..

Turn on crash logs in Console.app /System/Applications/Utilities/Console.app
It's in the preferences there

Then make pine crash, and when it does, a log will come up in the Console
program to show where it crashed. Mail that log (ONLY the last crash log,
if there are multiple ones) to the pine list and maybe we can figure
something out.

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On 22 Oct 2001 Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote:
> I someone knows of another GUI mail program that 1) does IMAP, 2) lets
> you PREFER plain text, and 3) does > style quoting, and 4) runs
> natively on OSX, let me know about it.. I bet I've tried the few that
> do, and they all have serious problems. Mail comes the closest, but
> especially doesn't do #3)

Have you tried Mulberry? 2.1.1 was just released and according to

<http://www.cyrusoft.com/mulberry/>

it "includes a Mac OS X 'native' version." I have a comparison of
Mulberry and Pine here

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#mulberryVpine>

I think it satisfies your 4 wishes too.

Let us know if Mulberry is what you're looking for,
Nancy

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To follow up on this email, here are some more tests that I've done:

* downloaded a pre-compiled binary (pine-bin.linux) from the ftp site. I
tried that with my existing .pinerc, and I still got the error.

* bounced the message to another account that I use Pine with to check
mail. I got the same error, so bouncing the message preserves whatever it
is that causes the error.

* Built a clean build (no patches) from source, ran it with my existing
pinerc, still received the error.

* Tried the standard .pinerc that pine generates, only modified the
'inbox-path' and 'folder-collections' variables, and still received the
error.

* Just to be sure this isn't a terminal problem (I'm using xterm), I tried
rxvt, and a Linux virtual terminal. Same problem.

So to sum up, to replicate the error, I can download a binary from the
pine site, start pine up, let it generate a .pinerc, and point it to my
inbox and folder collection. I then go the folder that contains the
message, and I get the error message. So I can be reasonably assured that
none of my own settings are causing this error.

Finally, I grabbed a clean 4.33 binary from the ftp site, and tried the
same steps in the previous paragraph. No error message.

For those interested, here is a cut-and-paste of a few lines from the
journal:

Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffbc
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffd2
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffbd
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffc4
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffb9
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffdf
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffc0
Invalid CHAR in quoted string: ffffffcc

There are many more. I can detect no pattern, but I don't read hex that
often, either.

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I've been looking around, and I'm trying address a common problem with my
users, complaining about Mutt users who send them PGP messages, and the
messages always coming across as application/OCTET-STREAM .

This has been a problem with pgp4pine, pgpenvelope, and pinepg.

We use pinepg with gpg.

I read through dozens of posts to various mailing lists (including this
one), and while I see lots of people having the actual problem, I'm having
a hard time finding a valid solution, other than the popular ending I see
to most of them "Try to convert everyone using mutt to pine".

Has this been addressed in a faq file anywhere? I don't want to drag up a
huge conversation if there is already an answer, I just can't seem to find
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Hi,

Just a quick question.

Does Pine have a facility where it recognises what e-mail address
the message was sent to, and automatically sets the From: field to
the address it was sent to?

Thanks,
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On 20 Oct 2001 John A. Perry ([email protected]) wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Nancy McGough wrote:
> > On 20 Oct 2001 John A. Perry ([email protected]) wrote:
> > > I'm running Pine 4.40 under RedHat Linux 7.1. I'm trying to set up
>
> > Try unsetting all your patterns (so they say <No Value Set>) and then
> > set the Current Folder Type to
> >
> > (*) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
> > Folder List = {my.news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine
> > for. Now open the folder {my.news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine and
> > compose a message. Let us know if this works.
>
> Yes! That seems to do the trick. It's rather obtuse but it works.

I agree that's it's obtuse and I think that the obtuseness could be
fixed by some user interface tweaking. Right now the ADD A ROLE screen
consists of a top *unlabeled* section, followed by a section called
ACTIONS BEGIN HERE, and then a section called USES BEGIN HERE. If the
top section were simply labeled CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE, that would go a
long way towards helping people understand how to interpret the
variables in that section. And actually I think it would be best to
split the CONDITIONS into CURRENT FOLDER CONDITIONS and CURRENT MESSAGE
CONDITIONS to make it clear (I hope) that all the settings above ACTIONS
BEGIN HERE are conditions based on the folder and message that the user
is looking at currently before invoking the role.

Below is the type of thing I'm suggesting:

PINE 4.40 ADD A ROLE RULE

Nickname = <No Value Set: using "Alternate Role">

============================== CURRENT FOLDER CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE ===============================
Current Folder Type =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
( ) Any
( ) News
(*) Email
( ) Specific (Enter Incoming Nicknames or use ^T)
Folder List = <No Value Set>

============================== CURRENT MESSAGE CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE ==============================
To pattern = <No Value Set>
>From pattern = <No Value Set>
Sender pattern = <No Value Set>
Cc pattern = <No Value Set>
News pattern = <No Value Set>
Subject pattern = <No Value Set>
Recip pattern = <No Value Set>
Partic pattern = <No Value Set>
AllText pattern = <No Value Set>
Score interval = <No Value Set>

Message is Important? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is New? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is Deleted? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

Message is Answered? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches
( ) Yes
( ) No

======================================= ACTIONS BEGIN HERE ========================================
(actions)
========================================= USES BEGIN HERE =========================================
(uses)

Nancy
posted to comp.mail.pine & pine-info, and cc'd

REFERENCE:
The message I'm replying to -- and this entire thread & group --
may be available at

<http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/2001.10/msg00019.html>

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Erik,

> I've been looking around, and I'm trying address a common problem with my
> users, complaining about Mutt users who send them PGP messages, and the
> messages always coming across as application/OCTET-STREAM .
<snip>
> Has this been addressed in a faq file anywhere? I don't want to drag up a
> huge conversation if there is already an answer, I just can't seem to find
> it out there.

I sent the following message to the pine-info list in May, but I can't
seem to find it archived online. So here goes:

==== original message ====
> I have a coworker who uses mutt, and sends PGP (or gpg, I suppose)
> encrypted messages on a regular basis. To get pine to handle them, I
> added this to my .procmailrc:
>
> ## to handle mutt PGP messages
> :0 fw
> * ^Content-Type: multipart/encrypted
> | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII"
> ##
>
> This seems to work fine for using pgp4pine to decrypt his messages -
> previously, they came as attachments and I had to save them and invoke gpg
> from the command line to read them.
>
> Since I didn't come up with the above snippet, I don't know if it'll work
> for everyone. I'm using 4.33 on a RedHat box, so YMMV...
==== end original message ====

HTH!

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Ok, here is the log. And to clarify, the crash that happens on OS X
happens with or without the GPG filter. I have uninstalled it and it
still happens:

Date/Time: 2001-10-22 16:49:45 -0400
OS Version: 10.1 (Build 5L14)

Command: pine
PID: 997

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0:
#0 0x00000000 in 0x0
#1 0x7000f81c in _sigtramp
#2 0x0017bb28 in piped_getline
#3 0x70001818 in __sflush
#4 0xc24bc195 in 0xc24bc195

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x4000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000010 lr: 0x7000f81c ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffca40 r2: 0x005eb6a0 r3: 0x00000014
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0xbfffccc8 r6: 0x00000000 r7: 0x00000000
r8: 0x00018001 r9: 0x00000001 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0x00367aa8
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000036 r15: 0x00063810
r16: 0x00000001 r17: 0x80160e88 r18: 0x000603b8 r19: 0x00001107
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000001c r22: 0x70004bc4 r23: 0x70004c58
r24: 0x7016b214 r25: 0x006bac3c r26: 0x8081ab5c r27: 0xc0cc2000
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0xbfffef00 r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x00000001

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<div>Ok, here is the log.  And to clarify, the crash that happens
on OS X happens with or without the GPG filter.  I have
uninstalled it and it still happens:</div>
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<div><tt><font color="#000000">Date/Time:  2001-10-22 16:49:45
-0400<br>
OS Version: 10.1 (Build 5L14)<br>
<br>
Command:    pine<br>
PID:        997<br>
<br>
Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)<br>
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002)
at 0x00000000<br>
<br>
Thread 0:<br>
 #0   0x00000000 in 0x0<br>
 #1   0x7000f81c in _sigtramp<br>
 #2   0x0017bb28 in piped_getline<br>
 #3   0x70001818 in __sflush<br>
 #4   0xc24bc195 in 0xc24bc195<br>
<br>
<br>
PPC Thread State:<br>
  srr0: 0x00000000 srr1:
0x4000d030         <span
></span>       vrsave: 0x00000000<br>
   xer: 0x00000010   lr: 0x7000f81c  ctr:
0x00000000   mq: 0x00000000<br>
    r0: 0x00000000   r1: 0xbfffca40  
r2: 0x005eb6a0   r3: 0x00000014<br>
    r4: 0x00000000   r5: 0xbfffccc8  
r6: 0x00000000   r7: 0x00000000<br>
    r8: 0x00018001   r9: 0x00000001 
r10: 0x00000000  r11: 0x00367aa8<br>
   r12: 0x00000000  r13: 0x00000000  r14:
0x00000036  r15: 0x00063810<br>
   r16: 0x00000001  r17: 0x80160e88  r18:
0x000603b8  r19: 0x00001107<br>
   r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x0000001c  r22:
0x70004bc4  r23: 0x70004c58<br>
   r24: 0x7016b214  r25: 0x006bac3c  r26:
0x8081ab5c  r27: 0xc0cc2000<br>
   r28: 0x00000000  r29: 0xbfffef00  r30:
0x00000000  r31: 0x00000001<br>
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Thanks for the response, however, my understanding is that a role
needs to be setup for each e-mail address...

I own a single domain, and all e-mail sent to it gets routed to my
account. I was just wondering if Pine could automatically detect
what address it was sent to, and then rewrite the From: field, rather
than having to setup Roles for every possible combination....

Or maybe I should stop being so greedy and just do it manually...
:))

Allan.

On 22 Oct 2001, at 16:11, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Allan Crooks wrote:
>
> > Does Pine have a facility where it recognises what e-mail address
> > the message was sent to, and automatically sets the From: field to
> > the address it was sent to?
>
> FAQ.
>
> (M)ain (S)etup (R)ules (R)oles and read the help.
>
> http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/roles.html
>
> --
> Gopi Sundaram
> [email protected]
> http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/
>

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## to handle mutt PGP messages
:0 fw
* ^Content-Type: multipart/encrypted
| formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII"
##

Thanks Joel, this worked perfectly.. mixing this with:

display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/local/pinepg/decrypt _RESULTFILE_ _DATAFILE_ _PREPENDKEY_, _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/local/pinepg/verify _TMPFILE_ _RESULTFILE_

Which is slightly different than what pinepg recommends, they recommend
using "display-filters=_LEADING", however that doesn't work with the
procmail change.

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*** Allan Crooks ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list...:

:) Thanks for the response, however, my understanding is that a role
:) needs to be setup for each e-mail address...
:)
:) I was just wondering if Pine could automatically detect what address it
:) was sent to, and then rewrite the From: field, rather than having to
:) setup Roles for every possible combination....

The problem is that the To: field may contain more than one address, so
you can never really set the From: field to be the To: field of the
original message. In another words, you need a rule that says "if the To:
field contains this address, then use the same address in the From:
field", and that is one of the things that Roles does for you. Regardless
of the mehanism that you use for doing this, it will always be equivalent
to using Roles, so you better use Roles.

--
Eduardo
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From: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Automatic from: fields
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Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> The problem is that the To: field may contain more than one address, so
> you can never really set the From: field to be the To: field of the
> original message.

I caution you that you may need to re-check your assumptions, or may
need to pick a different rationale for your answer. The From: and
Reply-To: fields have always been allowed to contain more than one
address -- this is quite explicitly stated in both RFC 822 and 2822.
(I'll copy the relevant excerpt of RFC 2822 at the end of this message.)

It is true that some mail clients have problems when they encounter
multi-address originator fields, because they assumed that those fields
could only contain a single address, but I had thought that Pine would
have dealt with the situation acceptably.

Regards,
Jacob Morzinski [email protected]

====================== RFC 2822, Section 3.6.2: ======================

3.6.2. Originator fields

The originator fields of a message consist of the from field, the
sender field (when applicable), and optionally the reply-to field.
The from field consists of the field name "From" and a
comma-separated list of one or more mailbox specifications. If the
from field contains more than one mailbox specification in the
mailbox-list, then the sender field, containing the field name
"Sender" and a single mailbox specification, MUST appear in the
message. In either case, an optional reply-to field MAY also be
included, which contains the field name "Reply-To" and a
comma-separated list of one or more addresses.

from = "From:" mailbox-list CRLF

sender = "Sender:" mailbox CRLF

reply-to = "Reply-To:" address-list CRLF

The originator fields indicate the mailbox(es) of the source of the
message. The "From:" field specifies the author(s) of the message,
that is, the mailbox(es) of the person(s) or system(s) responsible
for the writing of the message. The "Sender:" field specifies the
mailbox of the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the
message. For example, if a secretary were to send a message for
another person, the mailbox of the secretary would appear in the
"Sender:" field and the mailbox of the actual author would appear in
the "From:" field. If the originator of the message can be indicated
by a single mailbox and the author and transmitter are identical, the
"Sender:" field SHOULD NOT be used. Otherwise, both fields SHOULD
appear.

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Good idea. It will be in 4.41. Thanks.

Steve

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Nancy McGough wrote:

> [...]
>
> I agree that's it's obtuse and I think that the obtuseness could be
> fixed by some user interface tweaking. Right now the ADD A ROLE screen
> consists of a top *unlabeled* section, followed by a section called
> ACTIONS BEGIN HERE, and then a section called USES BEGIN HERE. If the
> top section were simply labeled CONDITIONS BEGIN HERE, that would go a
> long way towards helping people understand how to interpret the
> variables in that section. And actually I think it would be best to
> split the CONDITIONS into CURRENT FOLDER CONDITIONS and CURRENT MESSAGE
> CONDITIONS to make it clear (I hope) that all the settings above ACTIONS
> BEGIN HERE are conditions based on the folder and message that the user
> is looking at currently before invoking the role.
>
> [...]

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From: "Allan Crooks" <[email protected]>
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On 22 Oct 2001, at 19:50, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> The problem is that the To: field may contain more than one address,
> so you can never really set the From: field to be the To: field of the
> original message. In another words, you need a rule that says "if the
> To: field contains this address, then use the same address in the
> From: field", and that is one of the things that Roles does for you.
> Regardless of the mehanism that you use for doing this, it will always
> be equivalent to using Roles, so you better use Roles.

If I were able to rewrite messages so that the time it reached Pine,
there was some header ("X-Addressed-To" or something similar) in
the message that should be used as the From: field in a reply
message, it might be easier. But can Pine do this (not the
rewriting, but extracting the contents of the header and placing it in
the from field.

Another idea I've had is to rewrite the message headers, but have
Pine send replies with one of the headers intact from the initial
message (so it would have "X-Addressed-To:[email protected]" on
the incoming message and the outgoing message), and get the
message to be rewritten on the way out.

Are either of these two options possible?
Allan.

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Hello,

is there any way to how to sort folders depending
on the folder ?
for example : I want folder A to be sorted by
arrival date but folder B sorted by the From field
and those sorting rules should be saved from one session to
another one.

thanks and best regards/Bertrand

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*** Bertrand PEREZ (REE) ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) is there any way to how to sort folders depending
:) on the folder ?

Pine 4.40 contains a new feature which allows you to do so, press M S R O,
and press "?" to read help on how to set them and "A" to add one.

I also have a patch that allows you to do so, which among other things
does that. The patch is called "Define your own Rules..." and can be
obtained from my web page. The difference between Pine support and my
patch is flexibility, and support of customized folders for saving
messages.

Salu2,

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On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 [email protected] wrote:
>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:51:40 -0400
>From: Tim Gray <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Pine and OS X crash
>Message-ID: <p05101021b7fa37296916@[140.180.142.226]>
...
>Ok, here is the log. And to clarify, the crash that happens on OS X
>happens with or without the GPG filter. I have uninstalled it and it
>still happens:
>
>Date/Time: 2001-10-22 16:49:45 -0400
>OS Version: 10.1 (Build 5L14)
>
>Command: pine
>PID: 997
>
>Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
>Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000
>
>Thread 0:
> #0 0x00000000 in 0x0
> #1 0x7000f81c in _sigtramp
> #2 0x0017bb28 in piped_getline
> #3 0x70001818 in __sflush
> #4 0xc24bc195 in 0xc24bc195
>
>
>PPC Thread State:
> srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x4000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
> xer: 0x00000010 lr: 0x7000f81c ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000
> r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffca40 r2: 0x005eb6a0 r3: 0x00000014
> r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0xbfffccc8 r6: 0x00000000 r7: 0x00000000
> r8: 0x00018001 r9: 0x00000001 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0x00367aa8
> r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000036 r15: 0x00063810
> r16: 0x00000001 r17: 0x80160e88 r18: 0x000603b8 r19: 0x00001107
> r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000001c r22: 0x70004bc4 r23: 0x70004c58
> r24: 0x7016b214 r25: 0x006bac3c r26: 0x8081ab5c r27: 0xc0cc2000
> r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0xbfffef00 r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x00000001

btw do you know you sent this in both text/plain and text/html?

This is very similar to, if not the same as, a problem I have mentioned
previously.. I can crash pine by quitting an URL viewer launched by pine.
I never got a response from this mailing list, so I finally wrote up a bug
in Apple's internal bug system. I am not sure if external users can see
much if any useful info on bugs, but the bug # is 2791338. (You can check
it out at bugreporter.apple.com, but you need a [free] login account to use it)

My crash was:
Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0:
#0 0x00000000 in 0x0
#1 0x7000f81c in _sigtramp
#2 0x70006af0 in nanosleep
#3 0x7000be90 in closedir

These may in fact be the same problem, since I presume pine is launching
GPG (though I see you say it happens without the filter? Are you saying that
EVERY TIME you send a message pine crashes?), and it quits, and causes the
same crash.

Since pine doesn't ship with the OS, I don't suspect that my bug will have
a huge priority, but hopefully they'll track it down to see if it's some kind
of internal OS problem or a pine problem.

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Yes, this happens everytime I send a mail, no matter what plugins are
installed, what settings I use, etc. Every time. It started as soon as I
upgraded to 10.1. Even if I remove the GPG plugin from my system, it
still crashes (default install).

Tim

> These may in fact be the same problem, since I presume pine is launching
> GPG (though I see you say it happens without the filter? Are you saying that
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> same crash.
>

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We finally figured this one out. It will be fixed in pine4.41. The fix is
to uncomment

/* #define vfork fork*/ /* vfork is just a lightweight fork, so can use fork */

in .../pico/osdep/os-osx.h, so that it looks like

#define vfork fork /* vfork is just a lightweight fork, so can use fork */

I'm not sure if it is a MacOS X 10.1 bug or a pine bug. The problem is
that pine is doing a vfork in .../pine/osdep/pipe and then the child is
setting SIGCHLD to its default action. That causes the parent's SIGCHLD
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behavior after a vfork, I'm not sure, but we haven't seen the problem on
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Steve Hubert wrote:
> to uncomment
>
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>
> in .../pico/osdep/os-osx.h, so that it looks like
>
> #define vfork fork /* vfork is just a lightweight fork, so can use fork */

I had to remove vfork in pine/os.c also (which is a symlink). Working
great now! I suspected this was something to do with signal handlers.
It's so annoying to debug them.

-steven

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Hello,

I would like to write a cygwin shell to send in batch
a set of files (specified via a filter in the command line)
attached using pcpine.
I successfully did it but I still need to press the CTRL X and Y
keys on the pcpine windows that are opened to ask it to send
the mail
any of you knows how this can be completly automated ?

thanks and best regards/Bertrand

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hi!

some days ago i checked out pine 4.40 and i had some strange problem.
i have a collection list of mail i always read and usually use the select function to look for new mails there.
it started and worked out fine but when it had finished and wanted to mark them in bold pine exited with the comment
"problem detected".
after that my linux 2.4.8 (on debian) kernel reported:

Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000080
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: printing eip:
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: c013caaa
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: *pde = 00000000
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: Oops: 0000
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: CPU: 1
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: EIP: 0010:[<c013caaa>]
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: eax: 00000080 ebx: d2b11a20 ecx: 00000000 edx: 0000000c
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: esi: 00000000 edi: cf4ca460 ebp: ccaa1fa4 esp: ccaa1f3c
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: Process pine (pid: 9299, stackpage=ccaa1000)
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: Stack: ccaa1f68 c013d321 d2b11aa0 ccaa1f68 00000000 c1cbd000 00000000 ccaa1fa4
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: bfff363c 00000009 00000000 c1cbd04f 0000000c 1cc6ef7b c013da6e c1cbd05b
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: ccaa1fa4 ccaa1fa4 bfff4274 bfff4714 c013a609 bfff4714 00000009 ccaa1fa4
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: Call Trace: [<c013d321>] [<c013da6e>] [<c013a609>] [<c0106d13>]
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel:
Oct 23 14:32:40 localhost kernel: Code: 8b 00 85 c0 74 26 ff 74 24 10 53 ff d0 83 c4 08 85 c0 75 18

i do run this process as my own non-super-user on a smp maschine.
i do not know wether it is a problem of my kernel or not but my pine 4.33 does not cause this trouble so i simply downgraded.

in pine 4.33 i have a problem that is always occuring when i create a new filter for mails where the file for it at this time does not exist.
when i create the filter and exit pine tries to create this file and then immediatelly exits with the same "problem detected"
after that this rule does not exist in my rules. my workaround for that is to manually create that file before creating this filter.

i hope you can fix that :)

regards,
nosy

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, TUBerlin Postmaster wrote:

> Most probably result of a memory fault.

yes, that is what i thought as well but i used memtest to verify that but no hardware faults were displayed.

regards,
nosy

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*** Marlen Caemmerer ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) some days ago i checked out pine 4.40 and i had some strange problem. i
:) have a collection list of mail i always read and usually use the select
:) function to look for new mails there. it started and worked out fine
:) but when it had finished and wanted to mark them in bold pine exited
:) with the comment "problem detected".

It's a bug in Pine. I have a patch for it in my web page (address below).
Look under "Bug Fixes".

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*** Bertrand PEREZ (REE) ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) I would like to write a cygwin shell to send in batch
:) a set of files (specified via a filter in the command line)
:) attached using pcpine.
:) I successfully did it but I still need to press the CTRL X and Y keys
:) on the pcpine windows that are opened to ask it to send the mail any of
:) you knows how this can be completly automated ?

You can't do this kind of operation with Pine. I have, however, a patch
for the unix version of Pine, which you may try with the cygwin version of
Pine. Get the patch from my web page.

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I am a new systems admin.
We have just purchased a new HP Machine and it is running HPUX 11.
I need all the information that I can get to get Pine up and running on this
system.
Any and all help is appreciated.
Thank you.

Jerry Cowan

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From: Mats Dufberg <[email protected]>
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

> I caution you that you may need to re-check your assumptions, or may
> need to pick a different rationale for your answer. The From: and
> Reply-To: fields have always been allowed to contain more than one
> address -- this is quite explicitly stated in both RFC 822 and 2822.

That is correct. Given that, pine should accept multiple addresses in
reply-to. It does when you add it by hand, but it doesn't when you set up
a role for some reason...

Mats

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From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" <[email protected]>
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Subject: SSL Certificates in PC-PINE
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By default PC-Pine allows you either no SSL authentication
(novalidate-cert) which is VERY unsafe. Or requires your server's
certificate to be signed by some approved Certificate Authority
(presumably Verisign).

However, if I have a secure way of recieving my server's
(self-signed) certificate, I don't need Verisign, I just need Pine to
recognize my server's certificate as OK.

Since I don't want to pay Verisign for a cert, and I do have a secure way
of obtaining my server's cert, I see two ways of getting secure server
authentication?
1. Adding my server as a Pine Approved Certificate Authority
-or-
2. Getting Pine specifically to approve this and only this
certificate (e.g. because it matches some client side file).

Can someone tell me how to accomplish either of these?

On a related note, can someone tell me how to install a client side
certificate, so my server can authenticate me?

-Alex-

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I'm updating my Power Pine page to include info about the Windows
Registry and I have a question about this section:

How PC-Pine Finds User Files

As you can see in the table above, most Pine user files reside
in the directory that the pinerc file is in. PC-Pine finds the
pinerc file by looking at:

1. the -p command-line argument
2. The PINERC environment variable (%PINERC%)
3. %HOME%\Pine\pinerc
4. pine.exe directory\pinerc
5. Windows registry value in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\University of Washington\PC-Pine\4.0\PineRC

The first one in this list that exists is what Pine uses as the
pinerc file. All user files listed in the second (green) row of
the table above are read from and written to the directory that
the pinerc file is in. More details about what directories
PC-Pine looks in for files is at the UW's Support Files,
Environment Variables, and Registry Settings: PC-Pine.

My question: Am I correct that the Windows registry vaule for
PineRC is last (#5) in the list or is it somewhere else in the
list?

Thanks,
Nancy

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Hi,

I'm wondering why the Pine doesn't have additional selecting and apply
(aggregate) commands for the mail attachments? There is no problem if the
message has only few attachments, but what if there is more? For this
moment there is no choice to do something like: ";" , "a" , "a", "s" for
the attachments like it is for a message.

I don't know that there are some rules to do this work automatically
either, aren't they?

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I would like to open Pine to boxes other than the INBOX.
This appears not to be possible with simple MAPI, but may be possible with
extended MAPI.

Is there a way via some external API to open Pine to a particular mailbox?

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Hi,

Some body know pine option about How I can to stop spam or mails with
infected attachments?

Thanks in advance by the help.
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez wrote:

> Some body know pine option about How I can to stop spam

If you can figure out how to identify it, then you can set up a filter
rule.

> or mails with infected attachments?

You will be infected by an attachment only if you open it. Always scan
attachments before opening them.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

> You will be infected by an attachment only if you open it.

.. on inferior OS', that is. :-)

-Kenny

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Yes !

I dont use windows... only linux and dont worry :)

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Gopi Sundaram wrote:
>
> > You will be infected by an attachment only if you open it.
>
> ... on inferior OS', that is. :-)
>
> -Kenny
>
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> Work: 5141 California Suite 200, Irvine, CA 92612 (949) 737-2785
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Hi,

I don't know wether this is technically a bug with pine or not.
But maybe somebody has an Idea what might be causing my problem or at
least a pointer in a direction.
I use geOShell (www.geoshellx.com) as my windows shell running
Windows2000.
When I minimize PCPine the CPU load jumps up to 100% CPU all consumed by
the pine task. When I restore the PCPine window everything goes back to
normal. I have verified that this happens only with geOShell. i.e. with
Explorer or litestep (www.litestep.com) as a shell this doesn't happen.
I have checked with the geOShell dev what might be the cause of this but
he has no Idea, what could cause this weird behaviour.
As this only happens with geOShell I presume this has something todo with
the TaskManager/System Tray implementation of geOShell, but I have no idea
where to start
Does PCPine do anything special when minimized?
Or a pointer to where I could start looking for the issue.

Thankful for any hints
Adi

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Hi,

I can't manage to find sources of PC-Pine 4.40. I need them to
apply a patch and recompile it under Windows NT.

Where can I find them ?

Thanks in advance.
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Hi everybody,

I'm new on this mailing-list, I'm a not-so-old user of Pine
under LinuX and Windows (what a pleasure to use same tool on
both platforms especially when it's a so great one), anyway...

I looked at archives and mailing-lists, faqs etc... and could
not find what I'm searching for. It is quite simple :

I defined some rules to automatically move new mails from INBOX
to certain folders like Friends/MisterX or MailingList/Pine etc...
Filters work very well but how can I know where there is new
mails in my folders ?

I have a Folder Collection and what I want is that every
folder containing a new message is highlighted. It could be useful
for newsgroups too.

Only thing I saw to do that is a patch for checking in multiple
incoming folders. Problem is I don't want to declare as Incoming
Folder any folder in my tree that can be a destination for my
rules . In fact, I would like to do same as the patch but not
in Incoming-Folder only, also in Folder-Collections.

Is there a way to do that ??

Thanks in advance.

@++. Erwan.

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Erwan Becquet wrote:

> I can't manage to find sources of PC-Pine 4.40.

The source is not available.

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Hello, I can't find any info on using the X509 Thawte certificates with
pine.

I'm using pine 4.40 on Solaris, my co-workers are all using either
Netscape Mail or Outlook and are sending me mail signed and/or encrypted
with a thawte X509 certificate.

If anyone has any pointers/links that may be of interest I'd be very
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Lou.
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*** Erwan Becquet ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I defined some rules to automatically move new mails from INBOX
:) to certain folders like Friends/MisterX or MailingList/Pine etc...
:) Filters work very well but how can I know where there is new
:) mails in my folders ?

A few ways to know this are:

- press M J that will tell you all the latest messages that Pine sent in
the status line. There you can read what folders got new messages.

- Another way is to go to the specific collection where you filter and
press

; P N

that will select folders (not directories) with new messages. Notice the
menu at the bottom every time you press a key, as you may want to do
something different too. Inorder to be able to execute this command you
need to enable [X] enable-aggregate-command-set.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez wrote:

> I dont use windows... only linux and dont worry :)

Nobody must beleive that unix is protected against mail virus (or rather,
trojan horse in mail). A foreign executable should never be executed under
no OS. Even a shell script could be evil.

Mats

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Mats Dufberg wrote:

> Nobody must beleive that unix is protected against mail virus (or rather,
> trojan horse in mail).

True but:

> A foreign executable should never be executed under no OS.

.. I run an OS that uses apps with the sanity to *not* do this by default
(more exactly, at *all*).

-Kenny "What the hell was Bill *thinking*?" Crudup

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(If this is a FAQ, I apologize; a little research turned up nothing, and I
might have used the wrong query string).

Is there any way I can get Pine to put something akin to:

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:16:05

... instead of:

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:16:05 -0500 (EST)

... as it does now? IOW, can I always get the local time? I'm using the
default headers as shipped with Pine 4.40 .

-Kenny

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

> Is there any way I can get Pine to put something akin to:
>
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:16:05
>
> .... instead of:
>
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:16:05 -0500 (EST)
>
> .... as it does now? IOW, can I always get the local time? I'm using the
> default headers as shipped with Pine 4.40 .

The first is illegal, but in the second format, it should be the local
time, and the the zone should be the local zone.

In time zone -0500 at noon local time it should say

Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:00:00 -0500 (EST)

which is the same moment as

Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:00:00 0000 (UTC)

Mats

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Mats Dufberg wrote:

> The first is illegal, but in the second format, it should be the local
> time, and the the zone should be the local zone.

The problem is, "what's local"? My mail server is in New York City. I'm not.

I'd like to make it so that what Pine *DISPLAYS* is the time of the message
adjusted for whatever arbitrary local time zone I ask it (usually PST8PDT).

If you send me a message in GMT+3, and it gets delayed X hrs on the server,
I still want to see the time you first sent it to the mailer, *at my local
timezone* (GMT-8).

-Kenny

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Ok,

First, thanks for quick answer. It's quite good but problem is :

- About the first method you speak about (use journal), there is
no line about new mail if a filter rule has moved it from INBOX
to a different folder in a Folder-Collection. Or it is my config
which is not ok and it should ?

- About the second (aggregate select new messages), it works well
except it doesn't highlight folders which contains subfolders
containing new messages. It is ok only if you have a folder tree
with depth 1 maxi. It's not my case :-( Or I missed sthing ?

So my problem remains ...

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>*** Erwan Becquet ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
>:) I defined some rules to automatically move new mails from INBOX
>:) to certain folders like Friends/MisterX or MailingList/Pine etc...
>:) Filters work very well but how can I know where there is new
>:) mails in my folders ?
>
>A few ways to know this are:
>
>- press M J that will tell you all the latest messages that Pine sent in
>the status line. There you can read what folders got new messages.
>
>- Another way is to go to the specific collection where you filter and
>press
>
> ; P N
>
>that will select folders (not directories) with new messages. Notice the
>menu at the bottom every time you press a key, as you may want to do
>something different too. Inorder to be able to execute this command you
>need to enable [X] enable-aggregate-command-set.
>
>

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From: Erwan Becquet <[email protected]>
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Subject: Error in IMAP command received by server
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Hi,

it's me again, at least I did not subscribe this mailing-list
for nothing ! :-)

My problem is my IMAP server (a COURIER-IMAP) returns error
messages : "Error in IMAP command received by server". This
seems to be a very generic message. I get it at connection
(it seems to come from my config because with an old config
file, it is ok) and when i update remote data, when a message
comes but not always ... ??

Does someone 's got an idea ?
Is there a way to trace messages exchanged by pine and server
to see which one cause error message ?

Thanks in advance.

PS : Part of my journal showing error messages (even one during
composing this mail !)

===============================================================

Sending mail | |
Writing Fcc
Message sent and copied to "{imap.cnam.fr/user=becquet}inbox.Sent-Mail".
ALL of folder list
Last message marked for deletion. No more folders to TAB to.
Command "y" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help
Error in IMAP command received by server.
1 message expunged from folder "INBOX"
No more messages. No more folders to TAB to.
Command "Left Arrow" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help
Command "Left Arrow" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help
ALL of Information About Setup Command
Command "^T" not defined here. See key menu below.
Command "^T" not defined here. See key menu below.
ALL of folder list
ALL of folder list
Now in directory: {imap.cnam.fr/user=becquet}inbox.Friends.
Filtering Rule Setup changes saved
Writing remote data
Error in IMAP command received by server.
Keyboard lock cancelled
Command "," not defined for this screen. Use ? for help
No help text currently available
No help text currently available
ALL of folder list
No more messages. No more folders to TAB to.
No more messages. No more folders to TAB to.
Now in directory: {imap.cnam.fr/user=becquet}inbox.Friends.
Opening "Friends.Erwan"
rsh to IMAP server timed out
Folder "Friends.Erwan" opened with 2 messages
No more messages in folder
No more messages in folder
Returned to collection's top directory
Closing "Friends.Erwan"...
Closing folder "Friends.Erwan". Keeping all 2 messages.
Opened folder "INBOX" with 44 messages
No more messages. No more folders to TAB to.
Command "Left Arrow" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help
ALL of folder list
ALL of message
ALL of message
Replying using role "Always Use"
Replying using role "Always Use"
Sending mail | |
Writing Fcc
Updating "Answered" Flags
Message sent and copied to "{imap.cnam.fr/user=becquet}inbox.Sent-Mail".
Composing using role "Always Use"
Composing using role "Always Use"
Message cancelled and copied to "dead.letter" file
Composing using role "Always Use"
Composing using role "Always Use"
Error in IMAP command received by server.
Writing postponed message
Composition postponed. Select Compose to resume.

====================================

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Erwan Becquet wrote:

> My problem is my IMAP server (a COURIER-IMAP) returns error messages
> : "Error in IMAP command received by server".

The Courier IMAP server departs from the IMAP protocol in various ways.
This could be a problem with their implementation.

Try running pine -d9, and analyzing the .pine-debug file around where
the error message appears. It should tell you which IMAP command the
server had a problem with.

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Alex,
For what it's worth, I believe your assumption is incorrect.
Absence of server cert validation does not imply that the session is
unencrypted, only that you don't really know who the session is with.
So there are three, not two, possible scenarios.

-teg

p.s. Pine has no notion of "Approved" CAs itself, but relies on whatever
Microsoft, OpenSSL, etc, provide to it.

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote:

>
> By default PC-Pine allows you either no SSL authentication
> (novalidate-cert) which is VERY unsafe. Or requires your server's
> certificate to be signed by some approved Certificate Authority
> (presumably Verisign).
>
> However, if I have a secure way of recieving my server's
> (self-signed) certificate, I don't need Verisign, I just need Pine to
> recognize my server's certificate as OK.
>
> Since I don't want to pay Verisign for a cert, and I do have a secure way
> of obtaining my server's cert, I see two ways of getting secure server
> authentication?
> 1. Adding my server as a Pine Approved Certificate Authority
> -or-
> 2. Getting Pine specifically to approve this and only this
> certificate (e.g. because it matches some client side file).
>
> Can someone tell me how to accomplish either of these?
>
> On a related note, can someone tell me how to install a client side
> certificate, so my server can authenticate me?
>
> -Alex-
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*** Erwan Becquet ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) First, thanks for quick answer. It's quite good but problem is :
:)
:) - About the first method you speak about (use journal), there is
:) no line about new mail if a filter rule has moved it from INBOX
:) to a different folder in a Folder-Collection. Or it is my config
:) which is not ok and it should ?

This sounds like a bug to me. I see that you are using Pine4.40. Every
filter displays on screen where messages are being moved to, which gets
recorded in the journal. Maybe it's a bug.

:) - About the second (aggregate select new messages), it works well
:) except it doesn't highlight folders which contains subfolders
:) containing new messages. It is ok only if you have a folder tree
:) with depth 1 maxi. It's not my case :-( Or I missed sthing ?

Yes I mentioned in my post that this would not work in subdirectories of
the collection. You can't expect Pine to do this because this may take a
lot of resources and time (e.g. imagine if someone put their collection in
/usr)

:) So my problem remains ...

I do not know why you resist to using incoming folders, but I believe
that's a better way of dealing with this kind of folders.

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Eduardo
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