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Hello pineists

I'm running PC-Pine 4.33 on a win2000 machine. The mail server I use is a
Notes IMAP server.

Everything works fine except viewing/saving attachments. When I try to do
this I get the error message "Invalid or nonexistent document". The IMAP
Telemetry window displays:

00000935 FETCH 23 BODY[2]<0.8192>
00000935 NO FETCH Invalid or nonexistent document

I have no problem sending attachments, though. If I email an attachment to
myself I can view it from my sentmail folder (which in my case is inbox)
but I can't view the attachment that I later recieve (from myself).

Also, I cannot forward any mail which contains attachments (same error as
above).

Can someone help me out if this? Thanks in advance,
/C#

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When I attempt to save a message to a different folder, I get a warning:

"Deleted message parts NOT included in saved copy"

The saved copy looks completely corrupt.

I gradually isolated this to a setscore rule that this messages matches
on. If I remove the setscore rule, saving the same message works fine.
With the setscore rule, I get this error.

Is this a known issue?

Thanks.

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*** Tony Tung ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) When I attempt to save a message to a different folder, I get a warning:
:)
:) "Deleted message parts NOT included in saved copy"
:)
:) The saved copy looks completely corrupt.
:)
:) I gradually isolated this to a setscore rule that this messages matches
:) on. If I remove the setscore rule, saving the same message works fine.
:) With the setscore rule, I get this error.

Hmm, quite interesting. But it's not clear from your message how to
reproduce the bug. Here are a few questions that I have:

- What's the definition of the score rule? (you can change parameters to
protect privacy if you like), just give us the important details. If you
can copy the definition from your .pinerc it's better.

- Is that the only score rule that is affected by the message?
- In which folder are you in when you try to save?
- Is the folder that you try to save local or remote?
- Does the message that you try to save contain attachments?

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On Thu, 3 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Tony Tung ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) When I attempt to save a message to a different folder, I get a warning:
> :)
> :) "Deleted message parts NOT included in saved copy"
> :)
> :) The saved copy looks completely corrupt.
> :)
> :) I gradually isolated this to a setscore rule that this messages matches
> :) on. If I remove the setscore rule, saving the same message works fine.
> :) With the setscore rule, I get this error.
>
> Hmm, quite interesting. But it's not clear from your message how to
> reproduce the bug. Here are a few questions that I have:
>
> - What's the definition of the score rule? (you can change parameters to
> protect privacy if you like), just give us the important details. If you
> can copy the definition from your .pinerc it's better.

LIT:pattern="/NICK=Owner-From/FROM=resume@owner,mailman-owner@owner/FLDTYPE=EMAIL" action="/ISSCORE=1/SCORE=-1"

> - Is that the only score rule that is affected by the message?

I believe so.

> - In which folder are you in when you try to save?

I tried this from INBOX and from a local mail folder.

> - Is the folder that you try to save local or remote?

Local.

> - Does the message that you try to save contain attachments?

Nope.

Also, I am using Pine 4.33 on FreeBSD 4.2 if that makes any difference.

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*** Tony Tung ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) When I attempt to save a message to a different folder, I get a warning:
:)
:) "Deleted message parts NOT included in saved copy"
:)
:) The saved copy looks completely corrupt.
:)
:) I gradually isolated this to a setscore rule that this messages matches
:) on. If I remove the setscore rule, saving the same message works fine.
:) With the setscore rule, I get this error.
:)
:) Is this a known issue?

Congratulations, you've found a bug!. Here's are the steps to reproduce
it, for anyone that wants to test it.

- create a score rule for your own e-mail address, with just your from
address, and set any score to it.
- Send a message to yourself.
- save the message in any folder (I assume that saved messages are marked
deleted)
- Edit the score rule that you created, and save the changes (you do not
need to make changes to it, just pressing return a couple of times
serves the purpose)
- Save the same message again.

You'll see the message about "deleted parts" in the bottom of the
screen, and then when you go to see the message you'll see that the
headers of the message are part of the body of the message.

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Occasionally I reply to emails frm people with "long" addresses. And these
get shortened to 80 characters becasue of the limitation of the reply
lead-in. I have a conventional leadin prototype of

On _DAYDATE_, _FROM_ <_ADDRESS_> wrote:

Rather than the leadin being truncated I'd prefer for it to be wrapped. Is
that possible?

Regards, Trevor

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*** Trevor Jenkins ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) Rather than the leadin being truncated I'd prefer for it to be wrapped. Is
:) that possible?

Not really, unless you hack the code. There is something that you can do,
however, which is using a template file when replying and including the
definition of the reply-leadin string in that file. The only problem that
you'll have will be that you will have two reply-leadin in the same
message, one of them that you'll have to delete, I do not recall if the
reply leadin that you'll generate will be wrapped or not, you may have to
that manually, by pressing ^J.

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Starting with some version of GLIBC, certain variants of the stat function are
no longer available for use. This caused me problems a while ago when trying
to install RealPlayer. I don't know if it's a GLIBC bug (since the functions
still exist in the .h files) or what, but I had to manually change one of the
files in the GLIBC source and recompile the whole thing to get the required
functions.

> This is a first, EVER. In loading PINE on Mandrake-8.0 (Linux) and
> using PINE fine for quite some time I tried to attach a file. I
> tried a file, an image, everything, and received this error before
> PINE crashed, which is also a first for me:
>
> <begin_error>
>
> <program name unknown>: error while loading shared libraries: <main
> program>: undefined symbol: stat
>
> </begin_error>
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> This now leaves me with my favorite email program working fine
> except for attachments. All my co-workers are yelling MUTT and I'm
> quite happy with PINE.
>
> Any ideas ?
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Hello,

I was asked if one could filter deleted messages out of the inbox to
another folder, so I created the following filter:

LIT:pattern="/NICK=Deleted Messages/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX/STATD=YES"
action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=deleted-messages"

In a few words, what the filter does is that it matches any message (all
header patterns are a match because they have <no value set>), and the
only pattern that is matched is that the message must have the "Deleted"
flag. The action from the filter is to move to a folder called
"deleted-messages" which was created by pine when I was exiting the filter
configuration screen. I did not set the "move-only-if-deleted",
configuration option, but somehow no message is being moved to the
"deleted-messages" folder. Why?

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On Fri, 4 May 2001 [email protected] wrote:
>Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
>To: Tony Tung <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Pine] possible bug?
>Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.33.0105032016530.52493-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
>
>*** Tony Tung ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
>:) When I attempt to save a message to a different folder, I get a warning:
>:)
>:) "Deleted message parts NOT included in saved copy"
>:)
>:) The saved copy looks completely corrupt.
>:)
>:) I gradually isolated this to a setscore rule that this messages matches
>:) on. If I remove the setscore rule, saving the same message works fine.
>:) With the setscore rule, I get this error.
>:)
>:) Is this a known issue?
>
>Congratulations, you've found a bug!. Here's are the steps to reproduce
>it, for anyone that wants to test it.
>
> - create a score rule for your own e-mail address, with just your from
> address, and set any score to it.
> - Send a message to yourself.
> - save the message in any folder (I assume that saved messages are marked
> deleted)
> - Edit the score rule that you created, and save the changes (you do not
> need to make changes to it, just pressing return a couple of times
> serves the purpose)
> - Save the same message again.
>
> You'll see the message about "deleted parts" in the bottom of the
>screen, and then when you go to see the message you'll see that the
>headers of the message are part of the body of the message.

This sounds very similar to or the same as the problem I've
been mentioning within the last few months...

When I have been *manually* saving messages from one folder to another,
some of them have the headers included as part of the message.
(I believe my last message on the topic was that I had found two distinct
messages, both messages from the "ShopTalk" mailing list, where one
would consistently screw up when saving it, and one wouldn't..)

I have two score rules,
Nickname = To me or my mailing lists
Recip pattern = [email protected],[email protected],rebates@ya...

Current Folder Type =
(*) Specific
Folder List = INBOX

Message is Important? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches

Message is New? =
(*) Yes

Message is Deleted? =
(*) No

Message is Answered? =
Set Choose One
--- --------------------
(*) Don't care, always matches

Score Value = 100

(and another one the same, FROM me)

and then a filter rule that filters anything that DOESN'T match those,
to my suspected_spam folder.

I do remember at one point I accidentally matched all messages instead
of new messages..

I guess I'll have to play with this. I really don't think my
situation dealt with editing the score rule in the same session though.

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i'm getting disk quota exceeded errors, however, i have 18gb free
on that partition. also, my "quota -v <username>" never comes anywhere
near it's limits. i even went as far as setting up a BRAND new user, and
trying to send mail via pine with him and it sent okay, received okay, but
couldn't save to sent-items or any other folder. i can also upload
via ftp using these accounts so i'm not convinced it's a quota issue. pine
basically works, but, i can't save to any folder and the "beep" "message
append fails, disk quota exceeded" messages everytime i send an email is
KILLING me

any suggestions? i'm using pine 4.33

thank you

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Why is it that when replying to a message Pine sometimes asks 'reply to
all recipients' even when there aren't any other addressess in the header
except the sender and the recipient. Could be the email client that sent
the message?

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Sr. Consultant, Helpdesk Services Phone: (905) 525-9140 ext. 24357
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*** Jessie Kleefstra ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) Why is it that when replying to a message Pine sometimes asks 'reply to
:) all recipients' even when there aren't any other addressess in the header
:) except the sender and the recipient. Could be the email client that sent
:) the message?

It may be that Pine is not recognizing your address as yours. Try adding
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No, I have this "problem" too, however I always thought that Pine looks at
both the "to" and "from" addresses. This is however when replying a message
like this one from a mailing-list. My name is btw filled in the
alt-addresses correctly. I don't believe this to be a bug though in my
case, as Pine just simply asks in a way to whome it's supposed to send the
message to.

On Tue, 8 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Jessie Kleefstra ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
>
> :) Why is it that when replying to a message Pine sometimes asks 'reply to
> :) all recipients' even when there aren't any other addressess in the header
> :) except the sender and the recipient. Could be the email client that sent
> :) the message?
>
> It may be that Pine is not recognizing your address as yours. Try adding
> your address to the alt-addresses configuration option.
>
>

--
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--add-module=src/modules/extra/mod_ldap.c
--enable-module=ldap
--pretty-pretty-please

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*** Ralph Slooten ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) No, I have this "problem" too, however I always thought that Pine looks at
:) both the "to" and "from" addresses. This is however when replying a message
:) like this one from a mailing-list. My name is btw filled in the
:) alt-addresses correctly.

Your name is in the alt-addresses?, it's supposed to be your e-mail
address, and each different entry is supposed to be separated from the
other by a comma.

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No, it's correct, but what I think that he meant is justlike this massage
Iam answering, I press the "r" key, and it asks if I want to include the
origional message, and then it asks, "include all recipients"?

That is what I was meaning... there is a different addresses in the orional
message in the "to" and "from"

On Tue, 8 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Ralph Slooten ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) No, I have this "problem" too, however I always thought that Pine looks at
> :) both the "to" and "from" addresses. This is however when replying a message
> :) like this one from a mailing-list. My name is btw filled in the
> :) alt-addresses correctly.
>
> Your name is in the alt-addresses?, it's supposed to be your e-mail
> address, and each different entry is supposed to be separated from the
> other by a comma.
>
>

--
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--add-module=src/modules/extra/mod_ldap.c
--enable-module=ldap
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*** Ralph Slooten ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) No, it's correct, but what I think that he meant is justlike this massage
:) Iam answering, I press the "r" key, and it asks if I want to include the
:) origional message, and then it asks, "include all recipients"?

That's because messages in this list have a From: and a Cc: field. The
question is therefore if you want to answer to all the addresses in these
fields or just the address in the From: field. I hope I am not
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Yes, that's basically my point. So what I am trying to say to him is that I
don't think it's a bug, but just a simple question based on those reasons
=)

On Tue, 8 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Ralph Slooten ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) No, it's correct, but what I think that he meant is justlike this massage
> :) Iam answering, I press the "r" key, and it asks if I want to include the
> :) origional message, and then it asks, "include all recipients"?
>
> That's because messages in this list have a From: and a Cc: field. The
> question is therefore if you want to answer to all the addresses in these
> fields or just the address in the From: field. I hope I am not
> misunderstanding your point.
>
>

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--enable-module=ldap
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> No, Pine does not know the encodings you mention, so receiving messages
> with those encodings must be a pain to read today.

indeed it is...

especially problematical is that other mailers, eg mutt iirc, follow
the pgp mime standard which makes interoperability extremely
difficult.

i'd /love/ to see support for handling these mime-types properly in
pine.

--paulj

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> > No, Pine does not know the encodings you mention, so receiving messages
> > with those encodings must be a pain to read today.
>
> indeed it is...
>
> especially problematical is that other mailers, eg mutt iirc, follow
> the pgp mime standard which makes interoperability extremely
> difficult.
>
> i'd /love/ to see support for handling these mime-types properly in
> pine.

I have a coworker who uses mutt, and sends PGP (or gpg, I suppose)
encrypted messages on a regular basis. To get pine to handle them, I
added this to my .procmailrc:

## to handle mutt PGP messages
:0 fw
* ^Content-Type: multipart/encrypted
| formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII"
##

This seems to work fine for using pgp4pine to decrypt his messages -
previously, they came as attachments and I had to save them and invoke gpg
from the command line to read them.

Since I didn't come up with the above snippet, I don't know if it'll work
for everyone. I'm using 4.33 on a RedHat box, so YMMV...

--
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This advisory claims that pine prior to 4.33 has security problems
related to creation of temporary files.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:24:03 -0600
From: Linux Mandrake Security Team <[email protected]>
Subject: MDKSA-2001:047 - pine update

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

________________________________________________________________________

Linux-Mandrake Security Update Advisory
________________________________________________________________________

Package name: pine
Date: May 7th, 2001
Advisory ID: MDKSA-2001:047

Affected versions: 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, Corporate Server 1.0.1
________________________________________________________________________

Problem Description:

Versions of the Pine email client prior to 4.33 have various temporary
file creation problems, as does the pico editor. These issues allow
any user with local system access to cause any files owned by any
other user, including root, to potentially be overwritten if the
conditions were right.
________________________________________________________________________

Please verify the update prior to upgrading to ensure the integrity of
the downloaded package. You can do this with the command:
rpm --checksig package.rpm
You can get the GPG public key of the Linux-Mandrake Security Team at
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/RPM-GPG-KEYS
If you use MandrakeUpdate, the verification of md5 checksum and GPG
signature is performed automatically for you.

Linux-Mandrake 7.1:
d91b1f63e60dfdf1602ffbe53a955efe 7.1/RPMS/pine-4.33-1.2mdk.i586.rpm
2d2590d427a89fc5c7b43beef1e32cf8 7.1/SRPMS/pine-4.33-1.2mdk.src.rpm

Linux-Mandrake 7.2:
ef84533d82a85006e9dbfc02f440de0c 7.2/RPMS/pine-4.33-1.1mdk.i586.rpm
bcfef9f61fcd897394701983cc590f96 7.2/SRPMS/pine-4.33-1.1mdk.src.rpm

Linux-Mandrake 8.0:
d40ef2433d1779a1a1d3571542002db9 8.0/RPMS/pine-4.33-1.1mdk.i586.rpm
bcfef9f61fcd897394701983cc590f96 8.0/SRPMS/pine-4.33-1.1mdk.src.rpm

Corporate Server 1.0.1:
d91b1f63e60dfdf1602ffbe53a955efe 1.0.1/RPMS/pine-4.33-1.2mdk.i586.rpm
2d2590d427a89fc5c7b43beef1e32cf8 1.0.1/SRPMS/pine-4.33-1.2mdk.src.rpm
________________________________________________________________________

Bug IDs fixed (see https://qa.mandrakesoft.com for more information):

________________________________________________________________________

To upgrade automatically, use MandrakeUpdate.

If you want to upgrade manually, download the updated package from one
of our FTP server mirrors and upgrade with "rpm -Fvh *.rpm".

You can download the updates directly from one of the mirror sites
listed at:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3.

Updated packages are available in the "updates/[ver]/RPMS/" directory.
For example, if you are looking for an updated RPM package for
Linux-Mandrake 8.0, look for it in "updates/8.0/RPMS/". Updated source
RPMs are available as well, but you generally do not need to download
them.

Please be aware that sometimes it takes the mirrors a few hours to
update.

You can view other security advisories for Linux-Mandrake at:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/

If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact

[email protected]
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________________________________________________________________________

Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID
pub 1024D/22458A98 2000-07-10 Linux Mandrake Security Team
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On Wed, 9 May 2001, Joel Boonstra wrote:

> ## to handle mutt PGP messages
> :0 fw
> * ^Content-Type: multipart/encrypted
> | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII"
> ##

ah... excellent. very useful tip.

> This seems to work fine for using pgp4pine to decrypt his messages -
> previously, they came as attachments and I had to save them and invoke gpg
> from the command line to read them.

same here.

the other problem is pine->mutt. As mutt expects multipart/encrypted.
So my mutt using colleague has his own workarounds for that.

Would be nice if multipart/encrypted could be supported.

> Since I didn't come up with the above snippet, I don't know if it'll work
> for everyone. I'm using 4.33 on a RedHat box, so YMMV...

thanks for the handy procmail rule!

--paulj

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Wednesday, May 09, 2001, 6:46:36 PM, Ed Arnold wrote:

> This advisory claims that pine prior to 4.33 has security problems
> related to creation of temporary files.

Yeah, and ?

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Just had some spam, or industry spam, or something in HTML. Pine 4.30
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(They'd used <meta content="text/html;charset=iso8859-1"> and it was
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from where does PINE read it's "quota" information. like for
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Hello,

I currently can get pine to launch Netscape to view URLs from
within emails. However, I usually already have a Netscape broswer open. I
would like to have pine tell that browser to go to that location. (rather
than open a new window) To do that, this is the command I would need to
enter on the UNIX command line:

netscape -remote 'openURL(<insert_url_here>)'

But I can't figure out how to configure pine to do this. I went
into the config area but all it asks me for is the executable name. The
problem is that I need to stick the trailing ) and ' characters after the
URL name.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeff Shabel

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Jeff,

The following script handles this situation checking for whether netscape
is running.

It also handles pine's ability to read html attachments or messages in
netscape.

John

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#!/bin/sh
# short script to invoke netscape from within pine as a background
# process, so pine can continue. Only arg is the URL.
# Author: Ed Arnold <[email protected]> , but modified by Mike Miller & John
# Soper
NETSCAPE=/usr/bin/netscape
URL=`echo $1 | sed 's/,/%2C/g'`

#
# handle viewing HTML attachment or message files
#
ATTACH=`echo $URL | grep /tmp/img-HTM | wc -l`
if [ $ATTACH = 1 ]; then
cp $URL ${URL}.html
URL=${URL}.html
fi

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$NETSCAPE -noraise -remote openURL$"$URL"\,new_window$ &
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fi
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Jeff Shabel wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I currently can get pine to launch Netscape to view URLs from
> within emails. However, I usually already have a Netscape broswer open. I
> would like to have pine tell that browser to go to that location. (rather
> than open a new window) To do that, this is the command I would need to
> enter on the UNIX command line:
>
> netscape -remote 'openURL(<insert_url_here>)'
>
> But I can't figure out how to configure pine to do this. I went
> into the config area but all it asks me for is the executable name. The
> problem is that I need to stick the trailing ) and ' characters after the
> URL name.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Shabel
>
>
> --
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How can I automatically send an acknowledgement email to the sender?
(maybe correct term would be "AutoReply")?

This is my first email for help with pine, so please forgive me if I do it
wrong. We have a special email account (using PINE 3.96) setup as our
technical "Helpdesk" for all staff to submit problems, questions, and
where we store our resolutions to such. Staff has asked if it would be
possible to have pine automatically send them an email acknowledging that
it was successfully received by the "Helpdesk" email account?

Part 2 of this question: Staff would also like to know if it would be
possible for the "acknowledgement" email to specify what message #, in the
INBOX, their message is? (we average from about 35-150 emails in the
inbox at any given time).

I looked at my configuration as well as your archives and couldn't find
anything that addressed the above questions. Thank you for any help you
can offer.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ :):):):):):) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Linda M. Warner, voice:(302)855-7890
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*** Linda Warner ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) How can I automatically send an acknowledgement email to the sender?
:) (maybe correct term would be "AutoReply")?

You can't do that with Pine, you need to use another tool, like Procmail
to do so.

:) Part 2 of this question: Staff would also like to know if it would be
:) possible for the "acknowledgement" email to specify what message #, in the
:) INBOX, their message is? (we average from about 35-150 emails in the
:) inbox at any given time).

Again, use procmail and keep an outside counter of messages that have
arrived to the inbox, in some file outside your inbox.

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> Again, use procmail and keep an outside counter of messages that have
> arrived to the inbox, in some file outside your inbox.

`grep -c ^From location_of_your_mailbox` might be useful here.

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I'm trying to tune up the behaviour of pine to my own needs, and there is
one thing which I find particolarly annoing...
I'm accessing an imap server, and store all my configurations and
addressbooks there, as I'm the only one who accesses my own computer, (a
linux powered lap top) I'd love to avoid having the need of typing my
password every single time I access to pine, but there seems to be no such
an option in the server setting...
Is there a possibility to find a work around this eccess of security?

Something like

{my.imap.server.here/user="myusernamehere"/password="mypasswordhere"}MYINBOXHERE

I know it is not secure, and averybody can get my pass by looking at my
config file... but it is not so different from what happens with
fetchmail, isn't it?

Thanks for any feedback...

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*** Luca Heltai ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I'm accessing an imap server, and store all my configurations and
:) addressbooks there, as I'm the only one who accesses my own computer, (a
:) linux powered lap top) I'd love to avoid having the need of typing my
:) password every single time I access to pine, but there seems to be no such
:) an option in the server setting...

You need to compile Pine by yourself, and compile as you would normally
do, but add the following:

build xxx EXTRACFLAGS="-DPASSFILE="pine.pwd""

after you've finished compiling, create an empty file in the pine.pwd in
the same directory where your .pinerc file and start pine as usual. You'll
be asked about saving your password for future sessions.

--
Eduardo
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Hi linda,

You might want to look at Request Tracker,
http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/, which might be a useful thing to
setup for your helpdesk.

there are other systems too, eg stonekeeper, req, reqng, php helpdesk.

have a search on freshmeat.net for things like the above names and/or
"request track" "ticket manag", etc..

regards,

Paul Jakma.

On Fri, 11 May 2001, Linda Warner wrote:

> Part 2 of this question: Staff would also like to know if it would be
> possible for the "acknowledgement" email to specify what message #, in the
> INBOX, their message is? (we average from about 35-150 emails in the
> inbox at any given time).
>
> I looked at my configuration as well as your archives and couldn't find
> anything that addressed the above questions. Thank you for any help you
> can offer.

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Hi,
I would like to know is there a feature in Pine to apply filter rules
to mail that has already been downloaded to my Inbox mailbox file? I am a
subscriber to many mail lists and after installing Linux on my home
computer, I forgot to set up my filters before downloading my email. Now I
am stuck with +400 plus emails in my Inbox and would like these split into
their respective separate mailbox files. If pine does not have a feature to
solve my problem, are their any programs or scripts that are available that
can do this? Any information will be appreciated.

pd

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> I would like to know is there a feature in Pine to apply filter rules
> to mail that has already been downloaded to my Inbox mailbox file? I am a
> subscriber to many mail lists and after installing Linux on my home
> computer, I forgot to set up my filters before downloading my email. Now I
> am stuck with +400 plus emails in my Inbox and would like these split into
> their respective separate mailbox files. If pine does not have a feature to
> solve my problem, are their any programs or scripts that are available that
> can do this? Any information will be appreciated.

There may be other ways to do this, but the one that comes to mind is the
aggregate command set. In your pine config screen, check
'enable-aggregate-command-set', and save changes. Back in your inbox, you
will then be able to use the ';' key to select multiple messages based on
various criteria. Once they're selected, you can use the 'a' key to apply
a command to all of them (like save, or delete, or something else).

Hope that helps - when I discovered that, my whole view of pine changed...

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On Sat, 12 May 2001, Paul De Luca wrote:

> Hi,
> I would like to know is there a feature in Pine to apply filter rules
> to mail that has already been downloaded to my Inbox mailbox file? I am a
> subscriber to many mail lists and after installing Linux on my home
> computer, I forgot to set up my filters before downloading my email. Now I
> am stuck with +400 plus emails in my Inbox and would like these split into
> their respective separate mailbox files. If pine does not have a feature to
> solve my problem, are their any programs or scripts that are available that
> can do this? Any information will be appreciated.
>
> pd
>
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Probably the fastest way of doing it is to use a program such as procmail.
In procmail man page there are very good example on how to organize any
file containing mail.
try
man procmailex
and
man procmailrc
once you've installed the software.

Hope that helps. It did with me... I managed to sort out 2000 messages
arrived in a range of 4 years...
:)

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*** Paul De Luca ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I would like to know is there a feature in Pine to apply filter rules
:) to mail that has already been downloaded to my Inbox mailbox file? I am a
:) subscriber to many mail lists and after installing Linux on my home
:) computer, I forgot to set up my filters before downloading my email.

I don't really get this, when you say that you forgot to set up filters,
you meant "procmail filters" or "pine filters"?

If you meant the former, then you need to apply the command:

formail -s procmail /path/to/rcfile < mailbox

if you meant the latter you just need to close your inbox and open it
again. Filters in pine are applied to messages that are already in your
INBOX and are applied when you open that mailbox.

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Hi,
Is there a way to automaticly move messages I delete to another folder (a
trash folder)?

I don't want them to be totally removed, till I select to do it, but I
don't want them to clutter my inbox folder too.

Thanks,
Ilan

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> Hi,
> Is there a way to automaticly move messages I delete to another folder (a
> trash folder)?
>
> I don't want them to be totally removed, till I select to do it, but I
> don't want them to clutter my inbox folder too.
>
> Thanks,
> Ilan
>

Just a suggestion, you could always hit 's, d, enter' and save all
deleted messages in folder 'd'.. with the 'save deletes" function enabled,
that would do it..

there is probably another way.

Erik

"Security is a process, not a product."

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Hi,

Yes you right, but it only searches words on From, To, etc, and Subject
fields. What I'm asking for is how to search a particular word in the bod=
y
of a message.

Thanks,

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Nuno Teixeira
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On Mon, 14 May 2001, jadel wrote:

>
> ctrl+w is the search command
>
> /------------------------------------------------------------\
> |-- jadel menard ::: soundwav3 ::: CompuGlobalHyperMegaNet --|
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> |---------------- goloudorgohome.net/~soundwav3 -------------|
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Hi again,

I forgot to say: search for a specific word in the body of messages from =
a
list of messages. I know that "w" works too in a open message (inside of
it) but from a list of messages, it can't reach the inside or body of the
messages and then search what I need.

What I'm talking is to scan a mail directory and then find a something.

Thanks,

- --
Nuno Teixeira
Dir. T=E9cnico
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On Mon, 14 May 2001, jadel wrote:

>
> ctrl+w is the search command
>
> /------------------------------------------------------------\
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> |---------------- goloudorgohome.net/~soundwav3 -------------|
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> \------------------------------------------------------------/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 15 May 2001, Nuno Teixeira wrote:
>
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> > Hello to all,
> >
> > I'd like to know if it is possible to search for a word in the messag=
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> > body.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - --
> > Nuno Teixeira
> > Dir. T=E9cnico
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On Tue, 15 May 2001, Nuno Teixeira wrote:

> I forgot to say: search for a specific word in the body of messages from a
> list of messages. I know that "w" works too in a open message (inside of
> it) but from a list of messages, it can't reach the inside or body of the
> messages and then search what I need.
>
> What I'm talking is to scan a mail directory and then find a something.

To do that you need to set " enable-aggregate-command-set ".

Then, while in the index display, type ; and follow the prompts.

Ed

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*** Nuno Teixeira ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) I forgot to say: search for a specific word in the body of messages from a
:) list of messages. I know that "w" works too in a open message (inside of
:) it) but from a list of messages, it can't reach the inside or body of the
:) messages and then search what I need.
:)
:) What I'm talking is to scan a mail directory and then find a something.

Hi Nuno,

With the ";" command. Press "; t a", which means that you'll search for
text in all the message (including headers). You can restrict your search
to be to the body of the message if you apply a patch that I wrote which
you can download from my web page, whose address is below.

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[it seems my last email did not make it thru,
apologies if it appears twice]

Hello,
I'm wondering, how I could have html signature. Especially in such
way that if I view it under html-capable mailer like netscape
then it will show as html (images, etc).

Of course I still want to keep while rest of email just as plain
text, and I want to send those emails via pine.

If I use it as attachement it will be attached as TEXT/plain so
not quite what I want. If i put it just directly ( with <html>
tags, it will not be fully-rendered, as the message is still
text/plain). I'm guessing I need somehow to do multip-part
message. But how hard would be that?

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On Tue, 15 May 2001, Nuno Teixeira wrote:

>I forgot to say: search for a specific word in the body of messages from a
>list of messages. I know that "w" works too in a open message (inside of
>it) but from a list of messages, it can't reach the inside or body of the
>messages and then search what I need.
>
>What I'm talking is to scan a mail directory and then find a something.

>From index screen:

;TA<word>

Without the <>'s

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I see that Pine now handles multipart text/html messages, displaying
formatted HTML in colour. But it won't handle a straight text/html
message. Why not ? I get a few of these (spam mostly, I admit) from people
saving a few bytes by not sending any text/plain version

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Andrew,
A neat method was mentioned on another list, in which Pine invokes lynx
and lynx decodes the HTML.
If you go into the view menu using v, and hit enter on the text/html
attachment, lynx is invoked.
This method uses the .mailcap file below:
# Text/html; lynx -force_html -underscore -dump %s ; copiousoutput
text/html; lynx -force_html %s ; needsterminal

I don't know to what extent it can bemodified to use other web browsers in
other circumstances, or if there's a way to do this in PC-Pine.

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>
> I see that Pine now handles multipart text/html messages, displaying
> formatted HTML in colour. But it won't handle a straight text/html
> message. Why not ? I get a few of these (spam mostly, I admit) from people
> saving a few bytes by not sending any text/plain version
>
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> Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376
> [email protected]
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Hi there,

I'm trying to get PC-Pine play nice with my POP3 mailboxes.
As far as I can tell, one can use PC-Pine to access local mail
provided there is a tool that will fetch it from the POP3 server,
like fetchmail or getmail. Problem is, neither of these tools has
a win32 port AFAIK. (getmail is a Python script, so that wouldn't
be a problem, but it uses fcntl, and that _is_ a problem.)

Do you know of a getmail equivalent that would work on NT? I don't
mind if it's a python, perl, ruby or whatever program, as long as
it runs on NT.

TIA.

PS I've searched the pine-info@ archive, read the FAQ and several
other resources, but the only 'solution' I found was 'use getmail'.

[email protected]

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PC-Pine can access your pop3 mailbox directly....

in your Pinerc file

If you only have one:
inbox-path={your.server.name/pop3/user=userid.here}INBOX
You can also have more by using Incoming folders:
incoming-folders="TEST1" {Server.name1/pop3/user=USERID}INBOX,
"TEST2" {Server.name2/pop3/user=USERID}INBOX,
"TEST3" {Server.name3/pop3/user=USERID}INBOX

I hope this helps....

On May 15, 2001 at 18:37 +0200 Cynic wrote:

--> Hi there,
-->
--> I'm trying to get PC-Pine play nice with my POP3 mailboxes.
--> As far as I can tell, one can use PC-Pine to access local mail
--> provided there is a tool that will fetch it from the POP3 server,
--> like fetchmail or getmail. Problem is, neither of these tools has
--> a win32 port AFAIK. (getmail is a Python script, so that wouldn't
--> be a problem, but it uses fcntl, and that _is_ a problem.)
-->
--> Do you know of a getmail equivalent that would work on NT? I don't
--> mind if it's a python, perl, ruby or whatever program, as long as
--> it runs on NT.
-->
--> TIA.
-->
--> PS I've searched the pine-info@ archive, read the FAQ and several
--> other resources, but the only 'solution' I found was 'use getmail'.
-->
-->
--> [email protected]
-->
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So I got a message with these attachments:
1 490 bytes Message/RFC822
1.1 14 lines Text/PLAIN

When I respond, my message is blank, but the attachment field says:
1. [Message] (490bytes) ""

There are other messages I run into that I can't reply to "properly"
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I have "include text in reply" and "prefer-plain-text" turned on, if those
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This is with pine 4.33. Is there anything that I can do to allow me to be
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Hi Eduardo,

Thanks one more time for your great help. It works excellent.

And thanks for the other users that help me in this particular issue.

Bye,

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Dir. T=E9cnico
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On Mon, 14 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Nuno Teixeira ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-i=
nfo...:
>
> :) I forgot to say: search for a specific word in the body of messages =
from a
> :) list of messages. I know that "w" works too in a open message (insid=
e of
> :) it) but from a list of messages, it can't reach the inside or body o=
f the
> :) messages and then search what I need.
> :)
> :) What I'm talking is to scan a mail directory and then find a somethi=
ng.
>
> Hi Nuno,
>
> With the ";" command. Press "; t a", which means that you'll search f=
or
> text in all the message (including headers). You can restrict your sear=
ch
> to be to the body of the message if you apply a patch that I wrote whic=
h
> you can download from my web page, whose address is below.
>
> --
> Eduardo
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I know this. I also know that Pine will read a POP3 inbox
only upon opening it, and have my inbox-path set to a dummy
local inbox so I can TAB between it and the real one to get
it reload the one on my server. But I need a way to fetch
my mail to my workstation - I have several accounts and the
amount of mail I recieve is ~400 messages / 24 hours. It
would fill up my quotas on the servers pretty fast. Also,
all message flags set up during a session are lost, and I
really need to preserve them. So, what I need is:

a program that will periodically fetch my mail (several
accounts) to my workstation, and possibly filter the messages
into folders (this could be left to Pine).

I apologize if there's a flaw in my logic or if I'm overlooking
something obvious, but I'm a hopefully-soon-to-be-former
Eudora user, so many of the principles are a bit alien to me.

At 13:06 15.5. 2001 -0400, William R. Van Kuyk wrote:
>PC-Pine can access your pop3 mailbox directly....
>
>in your Pinerc file
>
>If you only have one:
> inbox-path={your.server.name/pop3/user=userid.here}INBOX
>You can also have more by using Incoming folders:
> incoming-folders="TEST1" {Server.name1/pop3/user=USERID}INBOX,
> "TEST2" {Server.name2/pop3/user=USERID}INBOX,
> "TEST3" {Server.name3/pop3/user=USERID}INBOX
>
>I hope this helps....
>
>
>On May 15, 2001 at 18:37 +0200 Cynic wrote:
>
>--> Hi there,
>-->
>--> I'm trying to get PC-Pine play nice with my POP3 mailboxes.
>--> As far as I can tell, one can use PC-Pine to access local mail
>--> provided there is a tool that will fetch it from the POP3 server,
>--> like fetchmail or getmail. Problem is, neither of these tools has
>--> a win32 port AFAIK. (getmail is a Python script, so that wouldn't
>--> be a problem, but it uses fcntl, and that _is_ a problem.)
>-->
>--> Do you know of a getmail equivalent that would work on NT? I don't
>--> mind if it's a python, perl, ruby or whatever program, as long as
>--> it runs on NT.
>-->
>--> TIA.
>-->
>--> PS I've searched the pine-info@ archive, read the FAQ and several
>--> other resources, but the only 'solution' I found was 'use getmail'.
>-->
>-->
>--> [email protected]
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On Wed, 16 May 2001:
>A neat method was mentioned on another list, in which Pine invokes lynx
>and lynx decodes the HTML.
>If you go into the view menu using v, and hit enter on the text/html
>attachment, lynx is invoked.
>This method uses the .mailcap file below:
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Actually, if you're actually trying to look at the html, using "links"
might be better -- just because it formats tables and such.

That is, I continue to use Lynx a lot for really fast browsing.. but
when I care more about the look, I use links.

http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/

my .mailcap has:
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Thursday, May 17, 2001, 2:21:22 PM, HongMingJian wrote:

> Hi,

> I want to setup colors for pico just like in pine, how?

Pico does not support colors IIRC. Maybe it will sometime in the
near/far future.

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Hi,

I want to setup colors for pico just like in pine, how?

Thanks.

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On Wed, 16 May 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> On Wed, 16 May 2001:
> >A neat method was mentioned on another list, in which Pine invokes lynx
> >and lynx decodes the HTML.
> >If you go into the view menu using v, and hit enter on the text/html
> >attachment, lynx is invoked.
> >This method uses the .mailcap file below:
> ># Text/html; lynx -force_html -underscore -dump %s ; copiousoutput
> >text/html; lynx -force_html %s ; needsterminal
>
> Actually, if you're actually trying to look at the html, using "links"
> might be better -- just because it formats tables and such.
>
> That is, I continue to use Lynx a lot for really fast browsing.. but
> when I care more about the look, I use links.
>
> http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/
>
> my .mailcap has:
> text/html; links %s;needsterminal

It was mentioned recently on this list by John Soper that you can
use netscape to view html attachments if you use a short script.
The short script has the additional benefit that it forks the browser
into the background so pine can continue.

To support this, I have the line "url-viewers=~/bin/ns" in my .pinerc
file. In my .mime.types file, I have the lines "text/html htm" and
"text/html html". The script ~/bin/ns is:

#!/bin/sh
# short script to invoke netscape from within pine as a background
# process, so pine can continue. Only arg is the URL.
# Author: Ed Arnold <[email protected]> , but modified by Mike Miller & John
# Soper
NETSCAPE=/usr/local/bin/netscape
URL=`echo $1 | sed 's/,/%2C/g'`

#
# handle viewing HTML attachment or message files
#
ATTACH=`echo $URL | grep /tmp/img-HTM | wc -l`
if [ $ATTACH = 1 ]; then
cp $URL ${URL}.html
URL=${URL}.html
fi

if [ -h $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then
$NETSCAPE -noraise -remote openURL$"$URL"\,new_window$ &
else
$NETSCAPE "$URL" &
fi

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Using stunnel -v 3:

-v level
verify peer certificate

=B7 level 1 - verify peer certificate if present

=B7 level 2 - verify peer certificate

=B7 level 3 - verify peer with locally installed

One can verify a peer with a locally installed certificate. How
is this done with uw-imap without stunnel?

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Friday, May 18, 2001, 11:49:29 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote:

I have downloaded PCPine, but I do not know what type of
mailboxes it can read, I know about UNIX mailboxes but I don't
imagine that any Windoze mailer stores the mail like that. Or is
there ?

DO you know any mail retrieving program for windoze that PcPine
works well with ?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

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--On Friday, 18 May, 2001 13:32 +0300 Silviu Cojocaru wrote:
> I have downloaded PCPine, but I do not know what type of
> mailboxes it can read,

I think these are the only mailbox formats that PC-Pine can read:

* traditional unix mbox (default format for Unix Pine)
* c-client MBX (default format for PC-Pine)
* mtx
* tenex

If anyone knows differently, please let me know so I can update my
PC-Pine page.

> I know about UNIX mailboxes but I don't
> imagine that any Windoze mailer stores the mail like that. Or is
> there ?

Actually, quite a few Windoze mailers understand traditional Unix
mbox format, including Mulberry, which I'm using right now. I think
that Eudora and Netscape Communicator do too. It's companies who try
not to interoperate with the rest of the Internet world -- and who
have delusions that people will happily use their software forever --
who create proprietary mailbox formats.

> DO you know any mail retrieving program for windoze that PcPine
> works well with ?

What about PC-Pine itself? It speaks both IMAP and POP and once you
have a mailbox open you can select all messages and copy them to a
local mailbox using

; A A S ^N mailboxname

(the number of ^N's depends on where your local folder collection is
in your collection list). You can set up a PC-Pine initial-keystroke
macro to automatically do this download (or you can use a PC-Pine
filter).

I discuss this and a lot more here:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/>

Good luck,
Nancy

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Is there an easy way (without having to edit all users' .pinerc file) to
suppress the greeting text that appears when you upgrade to a new version of
Pine? If I scripted an update to everyone's' .pinerc file to change the
"last-version" to the new version number, would this preclude other changes
from being automatically made to the .pinerc file when the new version is
executed???

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Monday, May 21, 2001, 6:44:00 PM, Michael J. Pape wrote:

> Is there an easy way (without having to edit all users' .pinerc file) to
> suppress the greeting text that appears when you upgrade to a new version of
> Pine?

Why do you want to suppress it ? It only appears once, per
upgrade, I don't think that's such a nuisance.

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Does it really matter why? I have my reasons, and my boss agrees. I simply
don't have the time to justify myself -- is that a prerequisite to posting
to this list?

However, to humor you and other who may be curious I'll give you a short
explanation. There is a bug in the version of Pine that I'm running (4.21),
and in the latest version (4.33), that is causing my users' spool files to
be corrupted. I've verified this with the engineers at Compaq (my platform),
who have in turn verified it with the Pine developers. The pine developers
have given me a fix which includes using the latest beta snapshot of the
imap daemon with version 4.33 of Pine, i.e., I need to upgrade. The fact of
the matter is that I don't want the user community to know that I've
upgraded -- they don't have a need to know, and it would raise more
questions then I care to answer. I may not be a nuisance to most users, but
in the end, it will most certainly be a nuisance to me...

Sorry if this all seems a bit harsh, but I really just wanted to save myself
some time...

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Monday, May 21, 2001, 6:44:00 PM, Michael J. Pape wrote:

> Is there an easy way (without having to edit all users' .pinerc file) to
> suppress the greeting text that appears when you upgrade to a new version
of
> Pine?

Why do you want to suppress it ? It only appears once, per
upgrade, I don't think that's such a nuisance.

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*** Michael J. Pape ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Is there an easy way (without having to edit all users' .pinerc file)
:) to suppress the greeting text that appears when you upgrade to a new
:) version of Pine? If I scripted an update to everyone's' .pinerc file to
:) change the "last-version" to the new version number, would this
:) preclude other changes from being automatically made to the .pinerc
:) file when the new version is executed???

I think the answer to your last question is no. There are some new
variables that are created and updated when they are not found, but even
when I tried to make this fail I couldn't, so it's likely that the answer
to your question is "No".

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On Mon, 21 May 2001, Michael J. Pape wrote:
> Is there an easy way (without having to edit all users' .pinerc file)
> to suppress the greeting text that appears when you upgrade to a new
> version of Pine?

The last time this came up, someone suggested using the variable
"new-version-threshold". It looks close to what you want:

_new-version-threshold_
When a new version of _Pine_ is run for the first time it
offers a special explanatory screen to the user upon startup.
This option helps control when and if that special screen
appears for users that have previously run _Pine_. It takes as
its value a _Pine_ version number. _Pine_ versions less than
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Jacob Morzinski [email protected]

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I installed pc pine on my laptop after using it for ages on my "real"
computer on a linux system...
At the moment I'm trying to tune it up so that all the mail I receive gets
delivered in the proper folder, using pine filters.
Uder linux I used procmail configured in such a way that all the mail that
needed to be sorted out was COPYED on the proper folder.
In such a way I could still read it in my inbox...
Unfortunately it looks like pine does not tell you if you have any new
mail in a folder which is not your inbox folder, so if a mail is received
and filtered, there seems to be no way to know it before you actually open
the folder in which the mail has been moved.
Is there any possibility to make pine say "you have 3 new messages in this
folder." without it being your inbox folder?
Thanks very much.

Luca.

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Adding all of my addresses to the alt-addresses worked for me. Thanks

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On Tue, 8 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Jessie Kleefstra ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
>
> :) Why is it that when replying to a message Pine sometimes asks 'reply to
> :) all recipients' even when there aren't any other addressess in the header
> :) except the sender and the recipient. Could be the email client that sent
> :) the message?
>
> It may be that Pine is not recognizing your address as yours. Try adding
> your address to the alt-addresses configuration option.
>
> --
> Eduardo
> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
>

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I'm testing Pine 4.33 with Solaris 8. I have set up a simple filter but
receive an abort signal. Below is the example. Is it because the 'From
pattern' requires an '@' sign or a '.'? I couldn't find anything in the
documentation that specifically stated this. If so, which other patterns
require this as well? Thanks for your help.

Nickname = test
>From pattern = kleefstr

(*) Specific
Folder List = INBOX

(*) Move
to Folder = testing

Commit changes ("Yes" replaces settings, "No" abandons changes)? y
Folder "testing" in <Mail> doesn't exist. Create? y

[Folder created]

Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
Pine Exiting.

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Hi to all,

Please say me some comment about filters for Im not receive mails with
virus as magistr or another. This is a problem.

Please thanks by the comments.
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On Fri, 25 May 2001, Jessie Kleefstra wrote:

>
> I'm testing Pine 4.33 with Solaris 8. I have set up a simple filter but
> receive an abort signal. Below is the example. Is it because the 'From
> pattern' requires an '@' sign or a '.'? I couldn't find anything in the
> documentation that specifically stated this. If so, which other patterns
> require this as well? Thanks for your help.
>
>
> Nickname = test
> >From pattern = kleefstr
>
> (*) Specific
> Folder List = INBOX
>
> (*) Move
> to Folder = testing
>
> Commit changes ("Yes" replaces settings, "No" abandons changes)? y
> Folder "testing" in <Mail> doesn't exist. Create? y
>
> [Folder created]
>
> Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
> Pine Exiting.
>
> -----
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> Sr. Consultant, Helpdesk Services Phone: (905) 525-9140 ext. 24357
> Computing & Information Services Fax: (905) 528-3773
> ABB-132
> McMaster University
>
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> I installed pc pine on my laptop after using it for ages on my "real"
> computer on a linux system... At the moment I'm trying to tune it up
> so that all the mail I receive gets delivered in the proper folder,
> using pine filters. Uder linux I used procmail configured in such a
> way that all the mail that needed to be sorted out was COPYED on the
> proper folder. In such a way I could still read it in my inbox...
> Unfortunately it looks like pine does not tell you if you have any new
> mail in a folder which is not your inbox folder, so if a mail is
> received and filtered, there seems to be no way to know it before you
> actually open the folder in which the mail has been moved. Is there
> any possibility to make pine say "you have 3 new messages in this
> folder." without it being your inbox folder? Thanks very much.

I'm sure you would like a better solution than this, but here's what I
do...

Go to your folder list and hit ";puz". This will select (and zoom) all
folders with unread messages.

Hope this helps.

Dan Fulbright

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Hi there

I seem to be having problems with pine 3.96. When I receive some mesages
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I know that newer versions of pine are available, but I'm loathe to
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Any assistance (besides telling me to upgrade :P) would be appreciated.

Regards

--Rob

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Hi,
Can I filter the mails which match the "To:" pattern "@foo.com" _OR_ the
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By default, pine does an _AND_.

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*** HongMingJian ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list on May 30,...:

:) Can I filter the mails which match the "To:" pattern "@foo.com" _OR_ the
:) "Cc:" pattern "@bar.com" into a specific folder?

Yes, add all the information into the Recipients Pattern (actually
called in the "Recip Pattern" in the filters screen).

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In pc-pine there is a item called
Config -> IMAP telemetry which displays the
communication between pine and the IMAP server.

How can this be done using unix-pine?

I see no reference to this in the FAQ or other
pine Doc's.

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Hi there

I'm resending, hoping someone can assist me :)

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Hi there

I seem to be having problems with pine 3.96. When I receive some mesages
(haven't been able to narrow down which types, but might be messages with
HTML content) and I reply, the recipient receives their original message
back (and not my response).

I know that newer versions of pine are available, but I'm loathe to
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I have tried searching the archives, but because this is such a peculiar
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Any assistance (besides telling me to upgrade :P) would be appreciated.

Regards

--Rob

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*** Doc Gorby ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) In pc-pine there is a item called Config -> IMAP telemetry which
:) displays the communication between pine and the IMAP server.

In order to save the telemetry, you must either start Pine with the
flag "-d imap=4" (whis displays the maximum possible telemetry) or add the
/debug option to the definition of the server:

inbox-path = {your.imap.server/debug[/other_flags]}INBOX

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*** fingers ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I'm resending, hoping someone can assist me :)

I think there are two reasons why nobody has answered, on the one hand
probably very few people are running that old version of Pine, and second
you haven't really said how to reproduce the problem, so for those that
could try to reproduce it, it's a little difficult to know what to do and
give you suggestions. The only suggestion I can give you is to upgrade, do
the work of changing the keystrokes as you like and keep running 4.33 for
quite some time.

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This is probably an extremely naive question, but I'm using pine 3.96 and
am finding that, unlike other versions of pine I've used before, that the
program doesn't keep copies of my sent messages, and I haven't been able
to work out how to make it save them (other than of course cc'ing myself).
Does anyone know how to do this?
thanks very much,
Tanya Pollard

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I would like cruise mode to return me to the (current) index once all
interesting messages have been exhausted. Is there a way to generate this
behavior?

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*** [email protected] wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) This is probably an extremely naive question, but I'm using pine 3.96
:) and am finding that, unlike other versions of pine I've used before,
:) that the program doesn't keep copies of my sent messages, and I haven't
:) been able to work out how to make it save them (other than of course
:) cc'ing myself). Does anyone know how to do this?

Define

default-fcc = sent-mail

in your configuration.

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One word of warning: At the imap=4 debugging level (in UNIX Pine -- I
have no experience with PC-Pine) your password will appear in the
clear in the .pine-debug1 file.

On Wed, 30 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Doc Gorby ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) In pc-pine there is a item called Config -> IMAP telemetry which
> :) displays the communication between pine and the IMAP server.
>
> In order to save the telemetry, you must either start Pine with the
> flag "-d imap=4" (whis displays the maximum possible telemetry) or add the
> /debug option to the definition of the server:
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> inbox-path = {your.imap.server/debug[/other_flags]}INBOX
>
>

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*** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) One word of warning: At the imap=4 debugging level (in UNIX Pine -- I
:) have no experience with PC-Pine) your password will appear in the
:) clear in the .pine-debug1 file.

It's true that the password will appear, but won't be readable in the
sense that you can know what it is, you still need to decode it in order
to know what it is. However, you can use the information in that file, as
it is, to log into the server, and it's not difficult to make a program
that will decode that information, so as Leonard is saying, be careful
with that information.

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I just added a user to my address book who has a 8 bit char in
his name. The char is the o with two dots above it like:

.
o

But all one char. When added to a distribution list in my
address book, when I hit CTRL-X, PINE segfaults.
Reproduceability about 95%. If the exact name is needed for
debugging, email me and I will supply it.

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When I raise the imap debug level to 4 on my system (running UNIX
Pine 4.33 with SSL) I get a line like the following in my
pine-debug1 file:

IMAP DEBUG 10:50:33.167011 5/30: 00000001 LOGIN ljm XXXXXXXX

where the XXXXXXXX actually contains the clear-text form of the
password that I typed to get a connection to my IMAP server, i.e., it
is _not_ the encrypted form of my password.

On Wed, 30 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) One word of warning: At the imap=4 debugging level (in UNIX Pine -- I
> :) have no experience with PC-Pine) your password will appear in the
> :) clear in the .pine-debug1 file.
>
> It's true that the password will appear, but won't be readable in the
> sense that you can know what it is, you still need to decode it in order
> to know what it is. However, you can use the information in that file, as
> it is, to log into the server, and it's not difficult to make a program
> that will decode that information, so as Leonard is saying, be careful
> with that information.
>
>

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My "root" folder on my MS Exchange 5.5 server is my "inbox", and contains
both new messages and the folder tree into which I've sorted other messages.
When I use pine (4.21 on current Mandrake/RedHat Linux) I can not see the
messages, only the folders. Other IMAP software (Outlook Express) can see
both the folders and the messages.

Can I configure Pine to correctly show both messages and folders within the
same folder?
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On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jonathan wrote:
> My "root" folder on my MS Exchange 5.5 server is my "inbox", and contains
> both new messages and the folder tree into which I've sorted other messages.
> When I use pine (4.21 on current Mandrake/RedHat Linux) I can not see the
> messages, only the folders. Other IMAP software (Outlook Express) can see
> both the folders and the messages.
>
> Can I configure Pine to correctly show both messages and folders within the
> same folder?

If I'm remembering correctly, I think this is a known bug in older
versions of pine. Names on an imap server can be a mailbox or a folder
or both at once -- it's a server configuration issue. Pine 4.21 fails
to cope with a name that is *both* a mailbox and a folder.

I believe that pine4.30 and later fixed this bug.

Sincerely,
Jacob Morzinski [email protected]

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*** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) When I raise the imap debug level to 4 on my system (running UNIX
:) Pine 4.33 with SSL) I get a line like the following in my
:) .pine-debug1 file:
:)
:) IMAP DEBUG 10:50:33.167011 5/30: 00000001 LOGIN ljm XXXXXXXX
:)
:) where the XXXXXXXX actually contains the clear-text form of the
:) password that I typed to get a connection to my IMAP server, i.e., it
:) is _not_ the encrypted form of my password.

Oh wow. There's something wrong in there. I see no reason to authenticate
with a login command, less save this unencrypted information in clear
text. Pine should be issuing a AUTHENTICATE PLAIN command to the server,
because you said it is using SSL, so maybe you do not have a SSL
connection to the server, as you thought you did. Can you see a "+" sign
in your top right corner?

--
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> From: Jacob Morzinski [mailto:[email protected]]

> On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jonathan wrote:
> > My "root" folder on my MS Exchange 5.5 server is my
> > "inbox", and contains both new messages and folders...

> If I'm remembering correctly, I think this is a known bug in older
> versions of pine.

I just installed the binary for 4.33 and I see the same thing -
multi-columned list of sub-folders instead of messages. Perhaps there's a
way to configure the folder view?

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Yes, I have a "+" sign in the top right corner. I also happen to
know that our server (Microsoft Exchange) will only accept SSL
connections.

BTW, I think I reported this as a bug some time ago, though perhaps
too late to make it into 4.33. I've been hoping that there would be
a fix in the next release.

On Wed, 30 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) When I raise the imap debug level to 4 on my system (running UNIX
> :) Pine 4.33 with SSL) I get a line like the following in my
> :) .pine-debug1 file:
> :)
> :) IMAP DEBUG 10:50:33.167011 5/30: 00000001 LOGIN ljm XXXXXXXX
> :)
> :) where the XXXXXXXX actually contains the clear-text form of the
> :) password that I typed to get a connection to my IMAP server, i.e., it
> :) is _not_ the encrypted form of my password.
>
> Oh wow. There's something wrong in there. I see no reason to authenticate
> with a login command, less save this unencrypted information in clear
> text. Pine should be issuing a AUTHENTICATE PLAIN command to the server,
> because you said it is using SSL, so maybe you do not have a SSL
> connection to the server, as you thought you did. Can you see a "+" sign
> in your top right corner?
>
>

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*** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) Yes, I have a "+" sign in the top right corner. I also happen to
:) know that our server (Microsoft Exchange) will only accept SSL
:) connections.
:)
:) BTW, I think I reported this as a bug some time ago, though perhaps
:) too late to make it into 4.33. I've been hoping that there would be
:) a fix in the next release.

Ok, I think I understand now. Exchange must not know the AUTH=LOGIN method
of authentication, which gives you some sensation of encryption. The point
is that the SSL connection must be established before you even
authenticate, so it does not matter what you send afterwards, because it's
already encrypted.

What kind of improvement do you expect?, is it that Pine do not record
LOGIN information in the .pine-debug files?

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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On Wed, 30 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote today:
>
> :) Yes, I have a "+" sign in the top right corner. I also happen to
> :) know that our server (Microsoft Exchange) will only accept SSL
> :) connections.
> :)
> :) BTW, I think I reported this as a bug some time ago, though perhaps
> :) too late to make it into 4.33. I've been hoping that there would be
> :) a fix in the next release.
>
> Ok, I think I understand now. Exchange must not know the AUTH=LOGIN method
> of authentication, which gives you some sensation of encryption. The point
> is that the SSL connection must be established before you even
> authenticate, so it does not matter what you send afterwards, because it's
> already encrypted.
>
> What kind of improvement do you expect?, is it that Pine do not record
> LOGIN information in the .pine-debug files?

Yes, exactly.

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On Wed, 30 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Leonard J. Moss ([email protected]) wrote today:
>
> :) Yes, I have a "+" sign in the top right corner. I also happen to
> :) know that our server (Microsoft Exchange) will only accept SSL
> :) connections.
> :)
> :) BTW, I think I reported this as a bug some time ago, though perhaps
> :) too late to make it into 4.33. I've been hoping that there would be
> :) a fix in the next release.
>
> Ok, I think I understand now. Exchange must not know the AUTH=LOGIN method
> of authentication, which gives you some sensation of encryption. The point
> is that the SSL connection must be established before you even
> authenticate, so it does not matter what you send afterwards, because it's
> already encrypted.
>
> What kind of improvement do you expect?, is it that Pine do not record
> LOGIN information in the .pine-debug files?

Oops, I just shot off a quick reply without thinking it through.

My first choice would be to see the .pine-debug file record all of
the LOGIN information _except_ the password. For example, the
password could be replaced by a string of X-s as I did by hand in a
previous reply on this thread, or by some other string (e.g.,
"<password-omitted>") which most people would be able to recognize
as a place-holder for the real password.

If this is difficult to implement (sorry, I don't understand the
internals of Pine or SSL well enough to judge from your explanation
above), then my second choice would be to suppress all the LOGIN
information.

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On Wed, 30 May 2001, Leonard J. Moss wrote:

>> Ok, I think I understand now. Exchange must not know the AUTH=LOGIN method
>> of authentication, which gives you some sensation of encryption. The point
>> is that the SSL connection must be established before you even
>> authenticate, so it does not matter what you send afterwards, because it's
>> already encrypted.
>>
>> What kind of improvement do you expect?, is it that Pine do not record
>> LOGIN information in the .pine-debug files?
>
>Oops, I just shot off a quick reply without thinking it through.
>
>My first choice would be to see the .pine-debug file record all of
>the LOGIN information _except_ the password. For example, the
>password could be replaced by a string of X-s as I did by hand in a
>previous reply on this thread, or by some other string (e.g.,
>"<password-omitted>") which most people would be able to recognize
>as a place-holder for the real password.
>
>If this is difficult to implement (sorry, I don't understand the
>internals of Pine or SSL well enough to judge from your explanation
>above), then my second choice would be to suppress all the LOGIN
>information.

I can't imagine it being more than a one or two line change to
the sources myself..

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Hai,

I was trying to install pine 4.33 on my system(SunOS 5.6 Generic). The
following error occured
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In file included from mail.c:25:
osdep.h:22: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory
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Can anyone tell me what the problem could be and how to solve it?

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I am on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I just tried to upgrade from Pine 4.21 to Pine
4.33. Some things are not right.

I tried not building the programs but just grabbing the binaries. From
the name, it looks like it is for Solaris 2.8, not 2.7. Is there enough
difference that this could explain all?

If not ...

1. My experience in the past is that when I run a new pine the first
time, it will update my ~/.pinerc, changing the version number in the
header, etc. This did not happen. I tried pine -pinerc pinerc_4.33 and
got one which said 4.05.

2. Always in the past pine has had no problem finding my INBOX even
though I used the default for inbox-path. In the notes I see it expects
the default to be in /usr/spool/mail/myname, whereas it is
/var/mail/myname on my system. Putting that in solved the problem, but I
am confused as to why it worked in the past with 4.21.

3. Once I got my INBOX to appear, I looked at some messages and found
that attachments were handled differently from before. People sending
mail with outlook explorer using the html option always came in as a
message telling me there were two attachments, and it displayed an
enhanced text with underlines in my xterm window under Sun OW. Now it
tells me there are two attachments, but nothing gets displayed even if I
try to view the attachments. Turning off pine and looking at the file in
Sun Mailtool tells me they are still there.

That's as far as I have gotten. Thanks for any suggestions.

Arthur Snoke

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I see an explanation for my problem: my "new" binary says PINE 4.05 in the
upper left-had corner. So the .pinerc did not update as it was not a
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Time to build them myself, I guess.

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Sorry about my previous two messages.

I had mistyped my ln -s to find the new pine and so it went to my old
sunos version of 4.05. I built the binaries and they seem to work.

I see my attachments again -- albeit in their semi-enriched state.

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Everytime I send a message, pine sets its flag to NEW, as i save my
messages to and from different recipients in different folders, this
affects the way the command ;puz acts, as it shows all the folders with
new messages even if the message was sent by me.
Is there a way to change this behaviour?
It might be a good idea to put another action into filters to change the
status of a message, in which case it would be pretty easy to "filter" all
messages sent by myself as READ (I wrote them, so I guess setting them as
NEW is not really intelligent... but it looks this is the default
behaviour....).
Any suggestions?
Luca.

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I can see the messages in my inbox, but I don't have subfolders within inbox if that is where you are talking about. I do have other folders that are not under the inbox folder and I can see messages that I have put in them.

Thanks,
Preston

On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jonathan wrote:

> My "root" folder on my MS Exchange 5.5 server is my "inbox", and contains
> both new messages and the folder tree into which I've sorted other messages.
> When I use pine (4.21 on current Mandrake/RedHat Linux) I can not see the
> messages, only the folders. Other IMAP software (Outlook Express) can see
> both the folders and the messages.
>
> Can I configure Pine to correctly show both messages and folders within the
> same folder?
>

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On Wed, 30 May 2001 [email protected] wrote:
> This is probably an extremely naive question, but I'm using pine 3.96 and
> am finding that, unlike other versions of pine I've used before, that the
> program doesn't keep copies of my sent messages, and I haven't been able
> to work out how to make it save them (other than of course cc'ing myself).
> Does anyone know how to do this?
> thanks very much,
> Tanya Pollard
>

Go to SETUP and configure. Set the default-fcc to the name of the folder
in which you want to save a copy of the sent message.

--raja.

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In the previous episode, Luca Heltai said:

> Everytime I send a message, pine sets its flag to NEW, as i save my
> messages to and from different recipients in different folders, this
> affects the way the command ;puz acts, as it shows all the folders with
> new messages even if the message was sent by me.
> Is there a way to change this behaviour?

>From what I understand, your fcc folder (ie. sent-messages) is not able
to distinguish a fcc folder from any folder you save/export messages to.
Unfortunately, it doesn't treat is "special" by flagging it READ because
it's a "sent" folder.

The way I get rid of the NEW flag is simply with the commands:

; a a * ! n

Perhaps this could be taken in considerating in the next release of
pine? Eduardo?

--dk

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I believe the attached patch might fix this problem.

--
Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

On Fri, 4 May 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> On Fri, 4 May 2001 [email protected] wrote:
> >Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
> >To: Tony Tung <[email protected]>
> >Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Pine] possible bug?
> >Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.33.0105032016530.52493-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
> >
> >*** Tony Tung ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
> >
> >:) When I attempt to save a message to a different folder, I get a warning:
> >:)
> >:) "Deleted message parts NOT included in saved copy"
> >:)
> >:) The saved copy looks completely corrupt.
> >:)
> >:) I gradually isolated this to a setscore rule that this messages matches
> >:) on. If I remove the setscore rule, saving the same message works fine.
> >:) With the setscore rule, I get this error.
> >:)
> >:) Is this a known issue?
> >
> >Congratulations, you've found a bug!. Here's are the steps to reproduce
> >it, for anyone that wants to test it.
> >
> > - create a score rule for your own e-mail address, with just your from
> > address, and set any score to it.
> > - Send a message to yourself.
> > - save the message in any folder (I assume that saved messages are marked
> > deleted)
> > - Edit the score rule that you created, and save the changes (you do not
> > need to make changes to it, just pressing return a couple of times
> > serves the purpose)
> > - Save the same message again.
> >
> > You'll see the message about "deleted parts" in the bottom of the
> >screen, and then when you go to see the message you'll see that the
> >headers of the message are part of the body of the message.
>
> This sounds very similar to or the same as the problem I've
> been mentioning within the last few months...
>
> When I have been *manually* saving messages from one folder to another,
> some of them have the headers included as part of the message.
> (I believe my last message on the topic was that I had found two distinct
> messages, both messages from the "ShopTalk" mailing list, where one
> would consistently screw up when saving it, and one wouldn't..)
>
> I have two score rules,
> Nickname = To me or my mailing lists
> Recip pattern = [email protected],[email protected],rebates@ya...
>
> Current Folder Type =
> (*) Specific
> Folder List = INBOX
>
> Message is Important? =
> Set Choose One
> --- --------------------
> (*) Don't care, always matches
>
> Message is New? =
> (*) Yes
>
> Message is Deleted? =
> (*) No
>
> Message is Answered? =
> Set Choose One
> --- --------------------
> (*) Don't care, always matches
>
> Score Value = 100
>
> (and another one the same, FROM me)
>
> and then a filter rule that filters anything that DOESN'T match those,
> to my suspected_spam folder.
>
> I do remember at one point I accidentally matched all messages instead
> of new messages..
>
> I guess I'll have to play with this. I really don't think my
> situation dealt with editing the score rule in the same session though.
>
>

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*** Steve Hubert ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) I believe the attached patch might fix this problem.

It does fix the problem for me. I hope it does also for the original
poster. Thanks for the patch Steve.

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On Thu, 31 May 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Steve Hubert ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) I believe the attached patch might fix this problem.
>
> It does fix the problem for me. I hope it does also for the original
> poster. Thanks for the patch Steve.

Works for me too.

Thanks!

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*** Luca Heltai ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Everytime I send a message, pine sets its flag to NEW, as i save my
:) messages to and from different recipients in different folders, this
:) affects the way the command ;puz acts, as it shows all the folders with
:) new messages even if the message was sent by me.
:) Is there a way to change this behaviour?

Only if you modify the source code, in this case is a one line
modification, which I do not recommend, but if this really bothers you, do
the following:

Edit the file send.c and in the function write_fcc, there's a line that
says:

if(!context_append(cntxt, fcc_stream, fcc, &msg)){

change it to say:

if(!context_append_full(cntxt, fcc_stream, fcc, "\\SEEN ",NULL, &msg)){

and that will "solve" your problem. Of course, recompile Pine after that.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/