From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 08:12:40 2001 -0800

From [email protected] Tue Jan 2 08:12:40 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:12:39 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA21791;
Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:12:37 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA08346;
Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:12:37 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA20376;
Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:12:04 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA62248
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:05:58 -0800
Received: from graciela ([email protected] [200.45.57.127])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA05474
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:04:58 -0800
Received: (qmail 603 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Jan 2001 15:45:34 -0000
Received: from localhost ([email protected])
by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jan 2001 15:45:34 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101021236480.599-100000@graciela>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:45:34 -0300 (ART)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Size or Amount limit for folders
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <gpirujo@graciela>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I would like my pine to automatically flush the oldest messages from my
folders according to a limit either in the folder file size, in the amount
of messages it contains, or in their dates.

Pruned-folders is not what I am looking for. I don't want to get the
folders cleaned up completely nor monthly. What I need is something that
checks the folders contents everytime I open them, like filters do. Sadly,
I have tried with filters and I can't find a solution. Maybe scoring would
help, but I couldn't find something related to folder size, message count
or message date.

Does anybody know how to work it out? I thank you very much.

--
Guillermo Pereyra Irujo
mailto:[email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Wed Jan 3 10:33:54 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:33:53 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA17558;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:33:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA18009;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:33:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA21144;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:33:19 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA22000
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:30:02 -0800
Received: from turing.cs.qc.edu (turing.cs.qc.edu [149.4.211.164])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24834
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:30:01 -0800
Received: from babbage.cs.qc.edu (babbage [149.4.211.122])
by turing.cs.qc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14623
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:30:00 -0500 (EST)
Received: from cv-home-d.cs.qc.edu (24-168-78-26.nyc.rr.com [24.168.78.26])
by babbage.cs.qc.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04794
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:28:30 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0101022142100.4070-100000@babbage>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:29:58 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Christopher Vickery <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: PC-Pine can't expunge
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

What does "Checkpoint file mismatch (12055 != 30043)"
these almost every time (but not every time) I try to
expunge messages from a folder.

I'm running PC-Pine 4.31 on a win2k machine. Mail comes
into a Solaris machine, where I keep all my folders, address
book, etc. using IMAP. I don't have the problem if I read
the mail using Pine 4.31 running on the Solaris machine.
The problem just started after the new year; I'm not aware
of making any changes to my setup, which was working fine
before.

I tried cleaning all messages out of, for example, my inbox,
but the problem still happens.

Chris Vickery

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Wed Jan 3 16:27:37 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:27:36 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA10430;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:27:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA31431;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:27:34 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA10014;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:26:57 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA29526
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:24:33 -0800
Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA15737
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:24:32 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan ([209.226.178.96])
by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net
(InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP
id <20010104002428.LYGP14993.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@asdf.capslock.lan>;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:24:28 -0500
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f040PPi23861;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:25:25 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:25:25 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine can't expunge
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0101022142100.4070-100000@babbage>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Christopher Vickery <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Christopher Vickery wrote:

>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:29:58 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
>From: Christopher Vickery <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: PC-Pine can't expunge
>
>
>What does "Checkpoint file mismatch (12055 != 30043)"
>these almost every time (but not every time) I try to
>expunge messages from a folder.
>
>I'm running PC-Pine 4.31 on a win2k machine. Mail comes
>into a Solaris machine, where I keep all my folders, address
>book, etc. using IMAP. I don't have the problem if I read
>the mail using Pine 4.31 running on the Solaris machine.
>The problem just started after the new year; I'm not aware
>of making any changes to my setup, which was working fine
>before.
>
>I tried cleaning all messages out of, for example, my inbox,
>but the problem still happens.

Sounds like bad file locking.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2000, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

VMS is a text-only adventure game. If you win you can use unix.

From [email protected] Wed Jan 3 18:59:51 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:59:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA30850;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:59:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA02725;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:59:49 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA08666;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:59:18 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA47308
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:58:19 -0800
Received: from turing.cs.qc.edu (turing.cs.qc.edu [149.4.211.164])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA06527
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:58:18 -0800
Received: from babbage.cs.qc.edu (babbage [149.4.211.122])
by turing.cs.qc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15313;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:58:17 -0500 (EST)
Received: from cv-home-d.cs.qc.edu (24-168-78-26.nyc.rr.com [24.168.78.26])
by babbage.cs.qc.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05416;
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:56:46 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:58:15 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Christopher Vickery <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine can't expunge
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> Sounds like bad file locking.

I don't think so, but your message got me to look and see
that I was running out of disk space on the server's INBOX
partition, and I think dealing with that has solved the
problem. Thanks. Chris

From [email protected] Thu Jan 4 00:47:10 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:47:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA14041;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:47:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA09140;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:47:08 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA15858;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:46:43 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA67176
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:45:21 -0800
Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (IDENT:[email protected] [207.175.42.156])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA05927
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:45:20 -0800
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f048j9H18769;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:45:13 -0500
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101040342371.13898-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:45:09 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: problem opening pine
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
X-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ram=F3n?= Alvarez Rayo <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Ram�n Alvarez Rayo wrote:

>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:25:28 -0600
>From: Ram�n Alvarez Rayo <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
>Subject: Re: problem opening pine
>
>
>>Upgrade to PINE 4.31.
>
>
>ok, that it's done.
>
>but what was the problem ?
>setstate: state info has been munged; not changed.
>
>i has another problem with some permission.

No idea, sorry... I just know that your chances of getting
responses to questions about very old versions of PINE are low,
so I wanted to give useful advice rather than saying nothing as
your question had a good chance of getting ignored.

--
Mike A. Harris Mailing address:
OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave.
Red Hat Inc. Sault Ste. Marie,
(705)949-2136 Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3

From [email protected] Thu Jan 4 01:39:36 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:39:36 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA08916;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:39:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA10206;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:39:34 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA20578;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:39:12 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA26622
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:38:09 -0800
Received: from cisco.com (megha.cisco.com [192.122.173.140])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA06858
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:38:07 -0800
Received: from localhost (vvsri@localhost)
by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05596
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:08:02 +0530 (IST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:08:02 +0530 (IST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Srikanth V. Vallabhaneni" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: problem detected received abort signal from news server
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-978600867=:3718"
Content-ID: <[email protected]>
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
Send mail to [email protected] for more info.

---559023410-851401618-978600867=:3718
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <[email protected]>

Hi,

I saw a mail with the same subject in the archives but did not find the
solution. I am experiencing an identical problem in that pine4.31
crashes with the above message after entering the password to the news
server. I suspect it is a problem with 4.31 because I also have 4.21
running and it works fine with the password.

I've attached contents of debug file for the final moments leading to
the crash (after entering the password). The one difference that I
observed was that in pine4.21 (with the same debug settings), the
following messages were also observed:

15:01:10.157811
build_folder_list: mail_open(vvsri-nt-pc/nntp/[email protected]) OK.
15:01:10.159369
LSUB "{vvsri-nt-pc/nntp/[email protected]}#news.codc-pikachu-team":
delim: '.
',

Thanks,

Srikanth

---559023410-851401618-978600867=:3718
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME=err1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64
Content-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Description:
Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME=err1
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---559023410-851401618-978600867=:3718--
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Thu Jan 4 13:33:25 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:33:24 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA25251;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:33:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA29346;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:33:22 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA19060;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:32:46 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA08264
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:30:08 -0800
Received: from lcars.premierelink.net (lcars.PremiereLink.net [216.36.9.7])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA11760
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:30:06 -0800
Received: from grendel ([216.36.9.31])
by lcars.premierelink.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA00620
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:30:05 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:24:38 -0800
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Justin Fairfax" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Weird errors in pine
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-To: "pine info" <[email protected]>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I downloaded the binary files from the FTP provided on your webpage and have
installed pine on the server I admin but I am having problems

System: SunOS 5.8

The following are the errors I am getting

1. When i am logged in and inside pine within a few minutes I get the
message that another pine session is accessing my mailbox even though I am
the only one on the system testing out pine and I have ran "ps -e |grep
pine" and found no other PID's running pine

Also whenever I try to send mail I get the message that pine cannot write to
the scratch

[>Error finishing scratch file: No space left on device<]

then

[>Write to "sent-mail" FAILED!!!<]

I have a vanilla .pinerc in my home dir and the .conf files are correctly
placed around the server but problems are arising as I said above.

I downloaded and installed pine, imapd, pico, and pilot. I would try to
compile, but I received some weird errors on compile and things wouldn't
work quite right.

Any suggestions?

Justin

/******************************
Justin Fairfax
Programmer
PremiereLink Communications
[email protected]
******************************/

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Thu Jan 4 14:32:58 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:32:58 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA13910;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:32:57 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA31771;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:32:56 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA16336;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:32:21 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA69412
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:31:23 -0800
Received: from cannac.ampr.org (lc0183.zianet.com [216.234.193.182])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA27711
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:31:20 -0800
Received: from localhost (k5di@localhost)
by cannac.ampr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01580;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:32:41 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:32:41 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Weird errors in pine
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Justin Fairfax <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: k5di owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Justin, if you had errors while compiling yet it completed the compile I
would say you didn't have errors, but warnings. An error usually results
in the compile ending and listing the error.

But I'm using Red Hat Linux 6.1 and version 4.31 compiled without a single
error on this machine. It's a single user computer so I don't even use the
normal ../mail directory and procmail sorts my mail.

I suggest you re-load the source code and when you do the ./configuration
step watch for serious errors in that process.

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Justin Fairfax wrote:

> I downloaded the binary files from the FTP provided on your webpage and have
> installed pine on the server I admin but I am having problems
>
> System: SunOS 5.8
>
I think there are binary files on the pine web site for SunOS but
not sure what version so try compiling on your machine. That is the best
course of action. If it compiles without error your sure those binary
files will run on your machine.

> The following are the errors I am getting
>
> 1. When i am logged in and inside pine within a few minutes I get the
> message that another pine session is accessing my mailbox even though I am
> the only one on the system testing out pine and I have ran "ps -e |grep
> pine" and found no other PID's running pine
>
> Also whenever I try to send mail I get the message that pine cannot write to
> the scratch
>
> [>Error finishing scratch file: No space left on device<]
>
> then
>
> [>Write to "sent-mail" FAILED!!!<]
>
> I have a vanilla .pinerc in my home dir and the .conf files are correctly
> placed around the server but problems are arising as I said above.
>
You might need to change the first 5 or 6 entries in .pinerc so
look at those with care. It sounds like the directory you tried to send
"sent-mail" doesn't exist.

> I downloaded and installed pine, imapd, pico, and pilot. I would try to
> compile, but I received some weird errors on compile and things wouldn't
> work quite right.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Justin
>
> /******************************
> Justin Fairfax
> Programmer
> PremiereLink Communications
> [email protected]
> ******************************/
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

Yours Truly,

- Karl F. Larsen, [email protected] (505) 524-3303 -

From [email protected] Thu Jan 4 16:10:48 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:48 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA22175;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:46 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA02993;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:45 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA20760;
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:15 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA69570
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:09:02 -0800
Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA04184
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:09:02 -0800
Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:08:57 -0600
Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:08:53 +0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:08:34 +0800
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Ed Greshko" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Weird errors in pine
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-To: "Justin Fairfax" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" <[email protected]>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Justin,

> 1. When i am logged in and inside pine within a few minutes I get the
> message that another pine session is accessing my mailbox even though I am
> the only one on the system testing out pine and I have ran "ps -e |grep
> pine" and found no other PID's running pine

It doesn't have to be pine that it accessing your inbox and it doesn't have to
be someone on the same system. The message is generated when another process
accesses you inbox. Are you running a PC based email program that is checking
your inbox from time to time?

> Also whenever I try to send mail I get the message that pine cannot write > to
the scratch
>
> [>Error finishing scratch file: No space left on device<]

Sounds like your system is running out of "tmp". What does "df -k" show?

Ed

From [email protected] Sat Jan 6 19:51:18 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:51:18 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA22449;
Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:51:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA04840;
Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:51:16 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA17348;
Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:50:25 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA34470
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:48:40 -0800
Received: from ruoppolo.phy.anl.gov (IDENT:[email protected] [146.139.144.3])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA17743
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:48:39 -0800
Received: from pacu.phy.anl.gov (IDENT:[email protected] [146.139.144.40])
by ruoppolo.phy.anl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09017
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:48:38 -0600
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:48:38 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Ken Teh <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: cant get local issuer certificate
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

My pine-4.30 cannot connect to my imap-2000 server via ssl. It reports
"Can't get local issuer certificate ... " Anyone have any ideas what this
means?

I have a Thawte issued certificate on my imap server and I've had no
problems connecting via ssl with Outlook and Netscape.

The only hint I have is that pine appears to have resolved my mail server
name to its actual DNS registered name although I specified the server's
CNAME in pinerc. The certificate is issued to the server's CNAME, not its
official name. Is this the problem?

I did not build either pine or imap but got them from RedHat.

--
Kenneth Teh Email [email protected]
Physics Division Tel 630.252.3073
Argonne National Laboratory Fax 630.252.2864
9700 S. Cass Ave.
Argonne, IL 60439
USA

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun Jan 7 10:13:45 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:13:45 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA30201;
Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:13:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA18194;
Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:13:43 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA28042;
Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:13:03 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA24876
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:11:34 -0800
Received: from post2.inre.asu.edu (post2.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.73])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA04206
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:11:34 -0800
Received: from conversion.post2.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #47347)
id <[email protected]> for [email protected]; Sun,
07 Jan 2001 11:11:33 -0700 (MST)
Received: from general1.asu.edu (general1.asu.edu [129.219.10.241])
by asu.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #47347) with ESMTP id <[email protected]> for
[email protected]; Sun, 07 Jan 2001 11:11:33 -0700 (MST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by general1.asu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14878 for
<[email protected]>; Sun, 07 Jan 2001 11:11:31 -0700 (MST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 11:11:31 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Can't forward
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

All of a sudden I can no longer forward messages with pine. Even when I hit
reply, and include message, it will not send the body of the message. It does
send the header. This has never been a problem in the past. Any ideas?
jvan
____________________________________________________________________________

J. Clayton Van
English Department LLB 542 "let there be songs,
Arizona State University to fill the air."
http://www.public.asu.edu/~jvanasu Jerry Garcia and Robert Hunter,1971.
____________________________________________________________________________

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Mon Jan 8 06:23:31 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:23:31 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA27403;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:23:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA09153;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:23:28 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA17320;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:22:57 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA55750
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:20:59 -0800
Received: from samantha.planetorange.com ([194.203.205.234])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA15130
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:20:58 -0800
Received: (qmail 8589 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 14:19:53 -0000
Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1)
by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 14:19:53 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101081416060.8238-100000@samantha.planetorange.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:19:53 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nicholas Horwood <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: problems using roles
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi there all

I seem to be having problems getting pattern matching with roles when
replying to e-mails

I have for this list for exemple,

To pattern = [email protected]

in a role for mailing to this list, but when i reply to an e-mail to this
list, it doesn't use the role. it uses the first roles in my list of
roles.

any ideas anyone?

--
Nicholas Horwood www.planetorange.com

Posted using pine 4.31 with custom flags, accents, custom rules and
collapse. For patches see http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
The above should be standard man, they rock!

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Mon Jan 8 08:44:52 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:44:52 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA28105;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:44:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA09828;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:44:50 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA30296;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:44:12 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA68998
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:41:21 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA01901
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:41:20 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA119848;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:41:14 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101080837470.250018-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:41:13 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: problems using roles
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101081416060.8238-100000@samantha.planetorange.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Nicholas Horwood <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Nicholas Horwood ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) To pattern = [email protected]
:)
:) in a role for mailing to this list, but when i reply to an e-mail to this
:) list, it doesn't use the role. it uses the first roles in my list of
:) roles.

Hello Nicholas!

What values are you using for the other configuration options?, you
should be using "No Value Set" for any other configuration setting (e.g.
From:, etc). Actually, at least for this list, I use the sender field, not
the To: field, as the To: field, as you can see, is not always "To:" the
list.

Regards,

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Mon Jan 8 09:39:11 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:39:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA09240;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:39:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA14663;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:39:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA34250;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:38:37 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA15876
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:37:21 -0800
Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA22078
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:37:21 -0800
Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2])
by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA14145;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:37:15 -0800
Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201])
by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA32640;
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:37:14 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.32.0101080935020.30129-100000@shiva1.cac.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:37:14 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: problems using roles
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101081416060.8238-100000@samantha.planetorange.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Nicholas Horwood <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

The matching starts with the first role and goes until a match is found.
So the first role that matches wins. If you have a match that comes before
the role you want to match that is the role that will be used. You can
usually get around this problem by putting more specific roles at the top
of the list and less specific roles at the bottom.

--
Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Nicholas Horwood wrote:

> [...]
> in a role for mailing to this list, but when i reply to an e-mail to this
> list, it doesn't use the role. it uses the first roles in my list of
> roles.
>
> any ideas anyone?

From [email protected] Tue Jan 9 03:07:19 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:07:18 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id DAA09715;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:07:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA08052;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:07:16 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id DAA06672;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:06:49 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id DAA13926
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:04:38 -0800
Received: from nebraska.domeij.org (IDENT:[email protected] [194.236.7.151])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA23921
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:04:36 -0800
Received: from nebraska.domeij.org (IDENT:[email protected] [194.236.7.151])
by nebraska.domeij.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28572
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:04:35 +0100
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:04:35 +0100 (CET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Martin Domeij <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Losing role-information in postponed message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Perhaps this has been discussed before, but here goes anyway:

If I compose a message using an alternate role and then postpone it,
there seems to be no way to get back into it with the role information
intact:

If I do '#', choose the appropriate role, start composing a message,
postpone it with Ctrl-O and then try to get back into it again what will
occur is:

If I do '#' again and choose the appropriate role, I find myself in a
new message.

If I do 'c' I get the question whether I want to continue the postponed
composition. Upon answering 'y', I end up in the postponed message,
however with the alternate role information gone.

Question is, I suppose, whether 'c' should allow you to go into a
postponed mail composed with another role, or if you should have to
choose role with '#' and then get the question about continue postponed
message. I wouldn't know.

/Martin

$ pine -v
Pine 4.30 built Tue Oct 31 15:43:50 EST 2000 on porky.devel.redhat.com

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Tue Jan 9 13:07:20 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:07:20 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA05020;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:07:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA28897;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:07:18 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA26076;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:06:39 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA32634
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:41:05 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA23942
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:41:04 -0800
Received: (qmail 25059 invoked by uid 1828); 9 Jan 2001 20:40:35 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:40:35 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Someone else mentioned this recently. I'm using pine 4.21 on my personal
account (yeah yeah, I've asked for them to upgrade it).. Every once in a while
I see messages where when I reply, no text is in the body.

I have an example of such a message (it's a spam, of course).. What
I noticed is that it has two parts, a text/plain and a text/html.
the text/plain part is 0 bytes long.

I even tried deleting the text/plain part, saving to another folder, and
replying to that message.. It still didn't include any text in the
body.

I am not sure if this is the case for other messages I get where replying
doesn't include any text (sometimes it includes the text as attachments).

Is there some way I can make it include the guts of the message (maybe
even ALL parts) in the reply I make?

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Tue Jan 9 14:02:29 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:02:28 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA17317;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:02:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA26852;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:02:27 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA18138;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:01:41 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA25968
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:22:21 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA31971
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:16:17 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA223290;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:16:16 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101091309340.299462-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:16:16 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Someone else mentioned this recently. I'm using pine 4.21 on my
:) personal account (yeah yeah, I've asked for them to upgrade it)..
:) Every once in a while I see messages where when I reply, no text is
:) in the body.

It may be that the message did not have a body but only attachments
which Pine knows how to display (and does!), so when replying, you only
reply to the empty body.

I agree, however, that it would be nice to have at least the displayed
message included in the reply/forwarded text. After all, it's easier to
delete what you do not want included than including attachments in the
body of the message.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Tue Jan 9 14:06:21 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:06:20 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA14392;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:06:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA27032;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:06:18 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA26318;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:05:30 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA26200
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:28:13 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA25520
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:28:13 -0800
Received: (qmail 13150 invoked by uid 1828); 9 Jan 2001 21:27:44 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:27:44 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101091309340.299462-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:16:16 -0800 (PST)
>From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
>To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
>
>*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
>:) Someone else mentioned this recently. I'm using pine 4.21 on my
>:) personal account (yeah yeah, I've asked for them to upgrade it)..
>:) Every once in a while I see messages where when I reply, no text is
>:) in the body.
>
> It may be that the message did not have a body but only attachments
>which Pine knows how to display (and does!), so when replying, you only
>reply to the empty body.

But it didn't include attachments either even though I have that set in the
prefs.

>
> I agree, however, that it would be nice to have at least the displayed
>message included in the reply/forwarded text. After all, it's easier to
>delete what you do not want included than including attachments in the
>body of the message.
>
>--
>Eduardo
>http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
>
>

[email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Jan 9 14:27:03 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:27:03 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA02776;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:27:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA27751;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:27:01 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA16302;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:26:29 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA37576
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:32 -0800
Received: from durian.team.xtra.co.nz (xtra185136.xtra.co.nz [202.27.185.136])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA06148
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:29 -0800
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(richard authenticated using CRAM-MD5 (0 bits))
by durian.team.xtra.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f09MNQr26637
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:23:27 +1300
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:23:23 +1300 (NZDT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Richard Stevenson <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: How about a /nosecure flag?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hiya

I've got a request... there's a /Secure flag I can use for IMAP
connections, etc. Pine tries to use the secure method (if there is one -
in my case ssh with rimapd) for all mailboxes, meaning I have to wait for
it to time out on my primary mailbox (which I can't ssh to). I'd like to
see a flag that tells Pine not to use the secure connection method
(/Insecure maybe?).

Cheers

Richard

--
Richard Stevenson, Systems Support Specialist, Telecom Xtra
Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155

Windows 2000 - proudly brought to you by the people behind EDLIN

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Tue Jan 9 14:30:38 2001 -0800
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:30:37 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA05228;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:30:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA31659;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:30:33 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA26688;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:30:02 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA31186
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:38 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA11914
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:37 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA227533;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:36 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101091422340.298988-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:36 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) > It may be that the message did not have a body but only attachments
:) >which Pine knows how to display (and does!), so when replying, you only
:) >reply to the empty body.
:)
:) But it didn't include attachments either even though I have that set in the
:) prefs.

Are you sure?, usually attachments are only included as attachments, not
as body of the message.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:33:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA23368;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:33:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA27922;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:33:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA29496;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:32:46 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA21814
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:26:01 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA12459
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:26:00 -0800
Received: (qmail 1739 invoked by uid 1828); 9 Jan 2001 22:25:31 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:25:31 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101091422340.298988-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:23:36 -0800 (PST)
>From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
>To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
>
>*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
>:) > It may be that the message did not have a body but only attachments
>:) >which Pine knows how to display (and does!), so when replying, you only
>:) >reply to the empty body.
>:)
>:) But it didn't include attachments either even though I have that set in the
>:) prefs.
>
>Are you sure?, usually attachments are only included as attachments, not
>as body of the message.

Yup,
[X] include-attachments-in-reply

is turned on, and I just tried replying to the message, and
there was nothing listed in the
Attchmnt:

header field.

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:40:41 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA19571;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:40:40 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA28157;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:40:40 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA28720;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:40:10 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA37704
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:28:07 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA13002
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:28:07 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA195852;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:28:06 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101091427130.301915-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:28:05 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: replying/forwarding doesn't include text
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) >Are you sure?, usually attachments are only included as attachments, not
:) >as body of the message.
:)
:) Yup,
:) [X] include-attachments-in-reply
:)
:) is turned on, and I just tried replying to the message, and
:) there was nothing listed in the
:) Attchmnt:
:)
:) header field.

That's a bug then. Hopefully the Pine team will take care of it soon.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:42:48 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA01810;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:42:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA28243;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:42:46 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA24724;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:42:21 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA51548
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:32:40 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA67776;
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:32:37 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:32:37 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How about a /nosecure flag?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Richard Stevenson <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Richard Stevenson wrote:

> I've got a request... there's a /Secure flag I can use for IMAP
> connections, etc. Pine tries to use the secure method (if there is one -
> in my case ssh with rimapd) for all mailboxes, meaning I have to wait for
> it to time out on my primary mailbox (which I can't ssh to). I'd like to
> see a flag that tells Pine not to use the secure connection method
> (/Insecure maybe?).

To disable ssh authentication for a specific server, just add :143 to the
end of the hostname. This tells Pine to use port 143, the standard IMAP
port, without ssh preauthentication.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:12:23 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA04015;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:12:22 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA18498;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:12:20 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA24776;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:11:52 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA32272
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:08:47 -0800
Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA03938
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:08:44 -0800
Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3])
by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03214
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:08:33 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:08:33 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Incoming Folders
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi!

I use this feature to select new messages through each directory but this option
some times doesn't work properly. Some times if I push TAB key i go to the next
new message, but some times this would work like this even if I have this
message stored in some directory. Maybe someone explain me why this doesn't work
sometimes. maybe this should be a bug?

Regards

Murphy

---------------------------------------------------------------------
^ e-mail: GaduGadu: #297149 ^
^ | ^ [email protected] ^ | ^
| | | [email protected] | | |
|/|\| [email protected] |/|\|
| http://www.mxp.scena.pl/klub/murphy.html |
| Everything is possible - this is only a question of time |
---------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:41:07 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA21517;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:41:06 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA03163;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:41:01 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA25120;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:40:37 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA56034
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:37:50 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA27690
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:37:50 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id NAA19135
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:37:32 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102135320.-245525@no>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:40:42 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I'm going to demonstrate a problem with PC-Pine, an Exchange IMAP
server, and the Message-ID header by sending this message and
then responding to it. I'll then explain the problem...

^X,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=- Sent via PINE 4.31.9: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix -=

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:14:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA20003;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA04512;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:14:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA04380;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:14:14 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA13874
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:10:52 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA13496
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:10:51 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id OAA03134
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:10:29 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102205550.-245525@no>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:13:46 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On 10 Jan 2001, Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote:
> I'm going to demonstrate a problem with PC-Pine, an Exchange IMAP
> server, and the Message-ID header by sending this message and
> then responding to it. I'll then explain the problem...

The message that I'm replying to, which is excerpted above, is
sitting in a folder on an MS Exchange IMAP server. The message
was moved into the folder by a Pine filter.

In the next message I'll describe the problem (assuming it
happens).

^X,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=- Sent via PINE 4.31.9: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix -=

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:59:29 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA07489;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:59:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA02900;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:59:23 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA27028;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:58:58 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA43566
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:49:55 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA23522
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:49:55 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id OAA18459
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:49:24 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102237230.-425009@no>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:52:40 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On 10 Jan 2001, Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2001, Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote:
> > I'm going to demonstrate a problem with PC-Pine, an Exchange IMAP
> > server, and the Message-ID header by sending this message and
> > then responding to it. I'll then explain the problem...
>
> The message that I'm replying to, which is excerpted above, is
> sitting in a folder on an MS Exchange IMAP server. The message
> was moved into the folder by a Pine filter.
>
> In the next message I'll describe the problem (assuming it
> happens).

The problem did happen so you won't all think I'm nuts! Message 1
included these headers:

Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102135320.-245525@no>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:40:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem

Message 2, which was my reply to Message 1, included these
headers:

Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102205550.-245525@no>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:13:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

The problem is the In-Reply-To header in Message 2 -- it *should*
say:

In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102135320.-245525@no>

where this part ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
is the Message-ID of Message 1 but instead it has a Message-ID
that seems to have been generated by ICEX6 (Imperial College
Exchange Server). This is a problem for people who are trying to
follow a thread using a threaded newsreader (which Pine can do
now too thanks to the new $H sort-by-thread command).

I posted some more details about this bug back in November in
comp.mail.pine. You can read that thread here:

http://x64.deja.com/%5BST_rn=ap%5D/viewthread.xp?AN=695100007&search=thread&svcclass=dnserver&ST=PS&CONTEXT=979166439.286392416&HIT_CONTEXT=979166439.286392416&HIT_NUM=10&recnum=%3cPine.WNT.4.30.9.0011181433100.-361455@no%3e%231/1&group=comp.mail.pine&frpage=viewthread.xp&back=clarinet

It would be great if this could be fixed in the next release of
Pine.

Thanks,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=-- Sent via PINE 4.31: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --=

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:22:05 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA14915;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:22:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA08013;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:22:03 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA29930;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:21:09 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA90340
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:12:35 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA09653
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:12:34 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA320690;
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:12:32 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101101701300.349285-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:12:31 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102237230.-425009@no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) It would be great if this could be fixed in the next release of
:) Pine.

It's not clear to me why you think it is a problem with Pine. Pine gets
the value of the headers from the server, so I do not see what Pine can do
about it. The message-id in the in-reply-to header was certainly not
generated by Pine. I certainly don't have that problem with the same
version of Pine. In my opinion you are reporting the bug in the wrong
place. Maybe you should report it to the imap mailing list or
comp.mail.imap or the designer of the IMAP server you are using.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:21:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA25495;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:21:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA16143;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:21:08 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA15314;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:20:31 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA32032
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:17:02 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA29412
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:17:01 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id AAA06869;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:16:45 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101110756550.-68205-100000@no>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:20:23 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On 10 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101101701300.349285-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:12:31 -0800 (PST)
> Sender: [email protected]
> From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
> In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101102237230.-425009@no>
> X-To: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
> X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>
> *** Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
> :) It would be great if this could be fixed in the next release of
> :) Pine.
>
> It's not clear to me why you think it is a problem with Pine. Pine gets
> the value of the headers from the server, so I do not see what Pine can do
> about it. The message-id in the in-reply-to header was certainly not
> generated by Pine. I certainly don't have that problem with the same
> version of Pine. In my opinion you are reporting the bug in the wrong
> place. Maybe you should report it to the imap mailing list or
> comp.mail.imap or the designer of the IMAP server you are using.

As I described back in November in comp.mail.pine, which people
can read in the Deja.com link I gave, the *correct* Message-ID is
in fact on the IC Exchange Server. For example, I can view it
when I type H to view full headers and I've included it in my
excerpt of Eduardo's message above.

Unfortunately, Pine is not using it when it generates the
In-Reply-To header or when Message-ID is included in viewer-hdrs
(that's what my discussion in November was about).

My guess is that MS Exchange stores it's own internal
Message-ID's in addition to the correct standard Internet message
Message-ID. If Microsoft were savvy about Internet standards,
they would have named their internal Message-ID something like
MSEX-Message-ID but as we all know MS does not play fair and does
not respect Internet standards. So even though this might
ultimately be a bug with MS Exchange, it is going to reflect
badly on Pine. Remember what happened back in 1995 when Pine
included a Newsgroups header in a message that was only mailed
privately to a person and then the person replied -- thinking his
reply was private -- and it got both posted and mailed? The Pine
developers argued that those mail clients weren't following
standards, and maybe they weren't, but the whole fiasco really
made Pine look bad and I think that some of the hatred of Pine
that exists today goes back to that fiasco. If Pine doesn't fix
this problem, which it seems like it should be able to do since
the correct Message-ID is in fact sitting on the MS Exchange
server, then my guess is that this will be another example of
Pine looking bad because others aren't following standards.

If this is an MS bug and if they do fix it, there is still the
problem that there will be MS servers for years that have this
old bug.

So, I stand by what I said: I hope this can be fixed in the next
release of Pine.

Thanks,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=- Sent via PINE 4.31.9: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix -=

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:07:17 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA18024;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:07:16 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA29952;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:07:16 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA27572;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:06:52 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA21992
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:03:31 -0800
Received: from hotmail.com (f103.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.103])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA18055
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:03:31 -0800
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:03:28 -0800
Received: from 47.248.0.43 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:03:28 GMT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:03:28 -0000
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Craig Arsenault" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-Originating-IP: [47.248.0.43]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2001 16:03:28.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[09276620:01C07BE8]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi all,
I have a very weird problem..
I've used Pine on HP-UX systems for years - no problems.
However, when i tried to use the Linux version, i ran into a slight problem.

I grabbed 4.30 and compiled it locally (build slx) and it works fine, except
when i try to select messages in my inbox (or any folder) using ":" or ";".
For both keys, it says the following:

Command ":" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help

Looking at "?" in Linux, both ":" and ";" are still listed there.
These work fine for me in the HP-UX version of Pine.

I then grabbed the pine-linux binary from the Univ. Of Wash's FTP site.
Still the same behaviour with their binary.

Am i missing something? Shouldn't this work in the linux version of Pine as
well?
Thanks for any help/suggestions you could give.

--
Craig.
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:21:13 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA29273;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:21:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA30371;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:21:08 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA28660;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:20:16 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA16986
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:12:10 -0800
Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA19662
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:12:05 -0800
Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3])
by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14851;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:11:56 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:11:56 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Craig Arsenault <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

> Looking at "?" in Linux, both ":" and ";" are still listed there.
> These work fine for me in the HP-UX version of Pine.
>
> I then grabbed the pine-linux binary from the Univ. Of Wash's FTP site.
> Still the same behaviour with their binary.
>
> Am i missing something? Shouldn't this work in the linux version of Pine as
> well?

Do You have setted this option below correctly:

[ Advanced Command Preferences ]
[X] enable-aggregate-command-set

If not try switch it. That's all.

Regards

Murphy

---------------------------------------------------------------------
^ e-mail: ^
^ | ^ [email protected] ^ | ^
| | | [email protected] | | |
|/|\| [email protected] |/|\|
| http://www.mxp.w3.pl/klub/murphy.html |
| Everything is possible - this is only a question of time |
---------------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:24:00 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA27388;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:23:59 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA26489;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:23:57 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA22106;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:23:25 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA64178
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:19:37 -0800
Received: from mail.jct.ac.il (mail.jct.ac.il [147.161.1.14])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA01514
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:19:34 -0800
Received: from p-roman.jct.ac.il (p-roman.jct.ac.il [147.161.5.104])
by mail.jct.ac.il (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f0BGKhe21577
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:20:43 +0200 (IST)
Received: from localhost (marcelo@localhost)
by p-roman.jct.ac.il (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA28985
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:21:14 +0200
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:21:14 +0200 (IST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: marcelo teste <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: chekpoint file failure : disk quota exceeded
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

hi all!

i have a problem with my pine in red hat 6.0

I have quota ok in /home and in /var/spool/mail, and i can read nwe mail,
and do all, but i can't erase (delete) any e-mail, when i tried the pine
return chekpoint file failure : disk quota exceeded.

marcelo

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:05:56 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA16562;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:05:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA02185;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:05:55 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA25906;
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:04:54 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA56056
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:01:34 -0800
Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA25864
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:01:33 -0800
Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2])
by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA13615
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:01:33 -0800
Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201])
by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA20448
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:01:33 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.32.0101111200370.3287-100000@shiva1.cac.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:01:33 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC-Pine, Exchange IMAP Server, & Message-ID problem
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.31.9.0101110756550.-68205-100000@no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Nancy,
Could you run with -d imap=4 debugging and send us the debug file or
relevant parts? We need to figure out where the wrong message-id is coming
from. Thanks.

--
Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:37:22 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id FAA10968;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:37:20 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA30955;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:37:15 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA33938;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:36:51 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA51776
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:35:35 -0800
Received: from relay.interalpha.net (relay.interalpha.co.uk [195.26.224.14])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA03839
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:35:33 -0800
Received: from dubacilla.transeda.com (post.transeda.com [195.26.231.66])
by relay.interalpha.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0CDgTi21423
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:42:29 GMT
Received: from milton.transeda.com (milton.transeda.com [195.26.231.67])
by dubacilla.transeda.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0CDcgm09144
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:38:42 GMT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:34:15 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Simon Liddington <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: New mail not detected in POP3 mailbox
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I am accessing my ISP account while at work but new mail is not
detected. I've tried ^L and everything but no luck. Restarting pine
works OK but then I have to retype my password :(

Anyone have any clues?

TIA,
Simon Liddington

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Simon Liddington | Tel (home): 023 8023 7935 |
| [email protected] | Tel (work): 023 8068 3521 |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:06:43 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA04439;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:06:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA28225;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:06:42 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA28536;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:06:24 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA41754
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:05:38 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA62258;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:05:36 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.4.31.99.0101120704080.61088-100000@bp15.u.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:05:36 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New mail not detected in POP3 mailbox
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Simon Liddington <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Simon Liddington wrote:

> I am accessing my ISP account while at work but new mail is not
> detected. I've tried ^L and everything but no luck. Restarting pine
> works OK but then I have to retype my password :(

The only way to fix this is to use IMAP instead. POP3 was not designed
for online access, so it has no method for telling Pine when new mail
arrives.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:47:33 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA06427;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:47:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29178;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:47:31 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA23044;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:47:08 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA69486
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:46:13 -0800
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA18250
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:46:13 -0800
Received: from m1.cs.man.ac.uk (IDENT:[email protected] [130.88.192.2])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29141
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:46:08 -0800
Received: from panther.cs.man.ac.uk by m1.cs.man.ac.uk (8.8.8/AL/MJK-2.0)
id PAA09985; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:46:06 GMT
Received: from localhost (georgi@localhost)
by panther.cs.man.ac.uk (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17311
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:46:03 GMT
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0101121405570.15451-100000@panther>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:46:03 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Georgi Kuzmanov <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: segmentation fault in pico.c
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: panther.cs.man.ac.uk: georgi owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <georgi@panther>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

There is an occasional condition which makes pine/pilot/pico cause a
segmentation fault. I have noticed that, more often than not, it occurs
whenever I try to navigate the file system and select for
attachment/editing/deletion a file with some of the following properties:

- it is outside the home directory
- it has a relatively deep pathname (three or more directories preceding
the basename in the absolute path)
- its name is relatively long, and it possibly contains spaces

I am not sure which of the above factors contribute to the problem, and
which are irrelevant.

I investigated the problem using gdb 4.16 and pilot from pine4.31 compiled
with a native gcc-2.95.2 on a sun4m SPARC Solaris 2.6. It appears that
the problem manifests itself following a call to malloc() in pico.c:1297
from register_key called from display.c:2539 (wkeyhelp). This is not a
guarantee that the problem lies in the implementation of register_key(),
but that is where it manifests itself.

Listed below is the output of two gdb sessions - the first one examining
the core file dumped by pilot after receiving the segmentation fault, and
the second one running pilot to the point in register_key() where the
segmentation fault occurs, with some data inspected and references to
source files and lines in pine4.31.

Apparently, _smalloc() is a part of the libc implementation of malloc().
I have included a disassembled version with an arrow pointing to the
address where the segfault occurred, along with a dump of register
contents, for anyone who knows SPARC assembly.

Georgi Kuzmanov

First Debugging Session
=======================
gdb pilot
(gdb) bt
#0 0xef745af0 in _smalloc ()
#1 0xef745b38 in malloc ()
#2 0x344b0 in register_key (i=3, rval=364620, label=0x408b0 "",
label_printer=0, row=0, col=0, len=0, kn=0x0, kl=0x0) at pico.c:1296
#3 0x27ebc in wkeyhelp (keymenu=0xefffec40) at display.c:2539
#4 0x259d4 in mlyesno (
prompt=0xefffee38 "Delete file \"/var/tmp/gk/dd/ThisIsAVeryLongFileName.txt\"", dflt=0) at display.c:1181
#5 0x1964c in FileBrowse (dir=0xeffff0a8 "/home/georgi", dirlen=256,
fn=0xeffff1a8 "", fnlen=256, sz=0x0, flags=-268440048) at browse.c:818
#6 0x18018 in main (argc=1, argv=0xeffff32c) at pilot.c:132
(gdb) info f 0
Stack frame at 0xefffe860:
pc = 0xef745af0 in _smalloc; saved pc 0xef745b38
called by frame at 0xefffe8c0
Arglist at 0xefffe860, args:
Locals at 0xefffe860
(gdb) info f 1
Stack frame at 0xefffe8c0:
pc = 0xef745b38 in malloc; saved pc 0x344b0
called by frame at 0xefffe930, caller of frame at 0xefffe860
Arglist at 0xefffe8c0, args:
Locals at 0xefffe8c0
(gdb) info f 2
Stack frame at 0xefffe930:
pc = 0x344b0 in register_key (pico.c:1296); saved pc 0x27ebc
called by frame at 0xefffebe0, caller of frame at 0xefffe8c0
source language c.
Arglist at 0xefffe930, args: i=3, rval=364620, label=0x408b0 "",
label_printer=0, row=0, col=0, len=0, kn=0x0, kl=0x0
Locals at 0xefffe930
(gdb) info f 3
Stack frame at 0xefffebe0:
pc = 0x27ebc in wkeyhelp (display.c:2539); saved pc 0x259d4
called by frame at 0xefffedb0, caller of frame at 0xefffe930
source language c.
Arglist at 0xefffebe0, args: keymenu=0xefffec40
Locals at 0xefffebe0
(gdb) info f 4
Stack frame at 0xefffedb0:
pc = 0x259d4 in mlyesno (display.c:1181); saved pc 0x1964c
called by frame at 0xeffff048, caller of frame at 0xefffebe0
source language c.
Arglist at 0xefffedb0, args:
prompt=0xefffee38 "Delete file \"/var/tmp/gk/dd/ThisIsAVeryLongFileName.txt\"", dflt=0
Locals at 0xefffedb0
(gdb) info f 5
Stack frame at 0xeffff048:
pc = 0x1964c in FileBrowse (browse.c:818); saved pc 0x18018
called by frame at 0xeffff2c8, caller of frame at 0xefffedb0
source language c.
Arglist at 0xeffff048, args: dir=0xeffff0a8 "/home/georgi", dirlen=256,
fn=0xeffff1a8 "", fnlen=256, sz=0x0, flags=-268440048
Locals at 0xeffff048
(gdb) info f 6
Stack frame at 0xeffff2c8:
pc = 0x18018 in main (pilot.c:132); saved pc 0x17d8c
caller of frame at 0xeffff048
source language c.
Arglist at 0xeffff2c8, args: argc=1, argv=0xeffff32c
Locals at 0xeffff2c8

Second Debugging Session
========================
gdb pilot
Breakpoint 1, register_key (i=3, rval=2303, label=0x408b0 "", label_printer=0,
row=0, col=0, len=0, kn=0x0, kl=0x0) at pico.c:1272
pico.c:1272: menuitems[i].val = rval;
(gdb) print menuitems[3]
$1 = {val = 2303, action = 0, tl = {r = 0, c = 0}, br = {r = 0, c = 0}, lbl = {
r = 0, c = 0}, label = 0x5a018 "- Prev Pg", label_hiliter = 0, kncp = 0x0,
klcp = 0x0, next = 0x0}
(gdb) break 1296
Breakpoint 2 at 0x34494: file pico.c, line 1296.
(gdb) cont
Continuing.

Breakpoint 2, register_key (i=3, rval=364620, label=0x408b0 "",
label_printer=0, row=0, col=0, len=0, kn=0x0, kl=0x0) at pico.c:1296
pico.c:1296: if(label
pico.c:1297: && (menuitems[i].label =(char *)malloc((strlen(label)+1)*sizeof(char))))
(gdb) print menuitems[3]
$2 = {val = 2303, action = 0, tl = {r = 0, c = 0}, br = {r = 0, c = 0}, lbl = {
r = 0, c = 0}, label = 0x0, label_hiliter = 0, kncp = 0x0, klcp = 0x0,
next = 0x0}
(gdb) step

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0xef745af0 in _smalloc ()
(gdb) print menuitems[3]
$3 = {val = 2303, action = 0, tl = {r = 0, c = 0}, br = {r = 0, c = 0}, lbl = {
r = 0, c = 0}, label = 0x0, label_hiliter = 0, kncp = 0x0, klcp = 0x0,
next = 0x0}
(gdb) bt
#0 0xef745af0 in _smalloc ()
#1 0xef745b38 in malloc ()
#2 0x344b0 in register_key (i=3, rval=364620, label=0x408b0 "",
label_printer=0, row=0, col=0, len=0, kn=0x0, kl=0x0) at pico.c:1296
#3 0x27ebc in wkeyhelp (keymenu=0xefffec40) at display.c:2539
#4 0x259d4 in mlyesno (
prompt=0xefffee38 "Delete file \"/var/tmp/gk/dd/ThisIsAVeryLongFileName.txt\"", dflt=0) at display.c:1181
#5 0x1964c in FileBrowse (dir=0xeffff0a8 "/home/georgi", dirlen=256,
fn=0xeffff1a8 "", fnlen=256, sz=0x0, flags=-268440048) at browse.c:818
#6 0x18018 in main (argc=1, argv=0xeffff32c) at pilot.c:132

Disassembly of _smalloc:
========================
0xef745a68 <_smalloc>: save %sp, -96, %sp
0xef745a6c <_smalloc+4>: call 0xef745a74 <_smalloc+12>
0xef745a70 <_smalloc+8>: sethi %hi(0x5d400), %o1
0xef745a74 <_smalloc+12>: add %o1, 0x314, %o1 ! 0x5d714 <_END_+17332>
0xef745a78 <_smalloc+16>: add %o1, %o7, %o3
0xef745a7c <_smalloc+20>: cmp %i0, 0
0xef745a80 <_smalloc+24>: bne 0xef745a8c <_smalloc+36>
0xef745a84 <_smalloc+28>: ld [ %o3 + 0x5c0 ], %i1
0xef745a88 <_smalloc+32>: mov 8, %i0
0xef745a8c <_smalloc+36>: srl %i0, 3, %o0
0xef745a90 <_smalloc+40>: dec %o0
0xef745a94 <_smalloc+44>: sll %o0, 2, %i2
0xef745a98 <_smalloc+48>: ld [ %i2 + %i1 ], %o1
0xef745a9c <_smalloc+52>: cmp %o1, 0
0xef745aa0 <_smalloc+56>: bne 0xef745af0 <_smalloc+136>
0xef745aa4 <_smalloc+60>: add %i0, 8, %l0
0xef745aa8 <_smalloc+64>: call 0xef745b4c <_malloc_unlocked>
0xef745aac <_smalloc+68>: sll %l0, 6, %o0
0xef745ab0 <_smalloc+72>: tst %o0
0xef745ab4 <_smalloc+76>: bne 0xef745ac4 <_smalloc+92>
0xef745ab8 <_smalloc+80>: st %o0, [ %i2 + %i1 ]
0xef745abc <_smalloc+84>: ret
0xef745ac0 <_smalloc+88>: restore %g0, 0, %o0
0xef745ac4 <_smalloc+92>: clr %o2
0xef745ac8 <_smalloc+96>: st %i0, [ %o0 ]
0xef745acc <_smalloc+100>: mov %o0, %o1
0xef745ad0 <_smalloc+104>: add %o0, %i0, %o0
0xef745ad4 <_smalloc+108>: inc %o2
0xef745ad8 <_smalloc+112>: add %o0, 8, %o0
0xef745adc <_smalloc+116>: cmp %o2, 0x40
0xef745ae0 <_smalloc+120>: bl 0xef745ac8 <_smalloc+96>
0xef745ae4 <_smalloc+124>: st %o0, [ %o1 + 8 ]
0xef745ae8 <_smalloc+128>: clr [ %o1 + 8 ]
0xef745aec <_smalloc+132>: ld [ %i2 + %i1 ], %o1
0xef745af0 <_smalloc+136>: ld [ %o1 + 8 ], %o0 <<<<<====== SIGSEGV
0xef745af4 <_smalloc+140>: add %o1, 8, %i0
0xef745af8 <_smalloc+144>: st %o0, [ %i2 + %i1 ]
0xef745afc <_smalloc+148>: ld [ %o1 ], %o0
0xef745b00 <_smalloc+152>: or %o0, 1, %o0
0xef745b04 <_smalloc+156>: st %o0, [ %o1 ]
0xef745b08 <_smalloc+160>: ret
0xef745b0c <_smalloc+164>: restore

Register dump
=============
g0 0x0 0
g1 0xef7869a0 -277321312
g2 0x64 100
g3 0x0 0
g4 0x0 0
g5 0x0 0
g6 0x0 0
g7 0x0 0
o0 0x0 0
o1 0x6b6168 7037288
o2 0xef7a9714 -277178604
o3 0xef7a3180 -277204608
o4 0xef7a9790 -277178480
o5 0x0 0
sp 0xefffe800 -268441600
o7 0xef745a6c -277587348
l0 0x10 16
l1 0xfbf7fb80 -67634304
l2 0xf656fb50 -162071728
l3 0x10081 65665
l4 0x0 0
l5 0x0 0
l6 0x10000 65536
l7 0x0 0
i0 0x8 8
i1 0xef7a9700 -277178624
i2 0x0 0
i3 0x0 0
i4 0x0 0
i5 0xef7a3180 -277204608
fp 0xefffe860 -268441504
i7 0xef745b30 -277587152
y 0x0 0
psr 0x40001080 1073746048
wim 0x0 0
tbr 0x0 0
pc 0xef745af0 -277587216
npc 0xef745af4 -277587212
fpsr 0x21 33
cpsr 0x0 0

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:02:04 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA00646;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:02:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA29544;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:02:01 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA28116;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:01:30 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA88646
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:00:42 -0800
Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA12735
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:00:41 -0800
Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196])
by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA14323
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:00:40 -0800
Received: from user-8.mobile.duke.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(authenticated)
by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f0CG0eD25600
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:00:40 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:00:34 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Terry Gray <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New mail not detected in POP3 mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.31.99.0101120704080.61088-100000@bp15.u.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

One wacky workaround that, while inelegant, avoids having to restart pine
and re-enter password:

set inbox-path to a dummy local file
add the real POP ISP to incoming folders list
when Pine starts, from the (empty) dummy inbox, tab to the "real" inbox
To check for new mail: Goto <RETURN>, then TAB again to re-open actual
POP inbox

-teg

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Simon Liddington wrote:
>
> > I am accessing my ISP account while at work but new mail is not
> > detected. I've tried ^L and everything but no luck. Restarting pine
> > works OK but then I have to retype my password :(
>
> The only way to fix this is to use IMAP instead. POP3 was not designed
> for online access, so it has no method for telling Pine when new mail
> arrives.
>
>

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:40:43 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA20394;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:40:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA02603;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:40:41 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA29232;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:40:18 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA88680
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:38:53 -0800
Received: from relay.interalpha.net (relay.interalpha.co.uk [195.26.224.14])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA18481
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:38:51 -0800
Received: from dubacilla.transeda.com (post.transeda.com [195.26.231.66])
by relay.interalpha.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0CGjjR01433
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:45:45 GMT
Received: from milton.transeda.com (milton.transeda.com [195.26.231.67])
by dubacilla.transeda.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0CGfsm10073
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:41:55 GMT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:37:27 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Simon Liddington <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New mail not detected in POP3 mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.31.99.0101120704080.61088-100000@bp15.u.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Simon Liddington wrote:
>
> > I am accessing my ISP account while at work but new mail is not
> > detected. I've tried ^L and everything but no luck. Restarting pine
> > works OK but then I have to retype my password :(
>
> The only way to fix this is to use IMAP instead. POP3 was not designed
> for online access, so it has no method for telling Pine when new mail
> arrives.

Hmm, I think I'll have trouble presuading virgin.net to give me IMAP.

If pine can see there is new mail on startup why can't it restart the
connection to see if there is new mail?

I think I'll use Terry Gray's idea for now, thanks Terry.

(Scott, sorry about the empty reply I sent you, I got my keys mixed up!).

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Simon Liddington | Tel (home): 023 8023 7935 |
| [email protected] | Tel (work): 023 8068 3521 |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:18:16 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA09492;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:18:15 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA03824;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:18:15 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA20202;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:17:30 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA49092
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:04:55 -0800
Received: from relay.interalpha.net (relay.interalpha.co.uk [195.26.224.14])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA24810
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:04:46 -0800
Received: from dubacilla.transeda.com (post.transeda.com [195.26.231.66])
by relay.interalpha.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0CHBfR02076;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:11:41 GMT
Received: from milton.transeda.com (milton.transeda.com [195.26.231.67])
by dubacilla.transeda.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0CH7pm10216;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:07:51 GMT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:03:23 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Simon Liddington <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New mail not detected in POP3 mailbox
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Terry Gray <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Terry Gray wrote:

> To check for new mail: Goto <RETURN>, then TAB again to re-open actual
> POP inbox

Better still is TAB RETURN TAB with auto-open-next-unread set.

It's easier to type !! :)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Simon Liddington | Tel (home): 023 8023 7935 |
| [email protected] | Tel (work): 023 8068 3521 |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:30:42 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA24155;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:30:40 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA32201;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:30:40 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA15758;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:30:11 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA23458
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:17:39 -0800
Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA26534;
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:17:38 -0800
Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.14])
by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP
id 2623836CD9; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:17:36 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:17:36 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Bruce Cohen <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New mail not detected in POP3 mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.31.99.0101120704080.61088-100000@bp15.u.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

So why does my pine (3.96 and POP3!) notify me when I'm online - just as
it does on my other account (3.90 and IMAP)????

Bruce Cohen

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Simon Liddington wrote:

> I am accessing my ISP account while at work but new mail is not
> detected. I've tried ^L and everything but no luck. Restarting pine
> works OK but then I have to retype my password :(

The only way to fix this is to use IMAP instead. POP3 was not designed
for online access, so it has no method for telling Pine when new mail
arrives.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:11:06 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA07630;
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:11:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA18521;
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:11:04 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA22692;
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:10:22 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA65170
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:06:50 -0800
Received: from betelgeuse.concentric.net (betelgeuse.concentric.net [207.155.183.76])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA10962
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:06:50 -0800
Received: from qwestinternet.net (ts016d43.nyh-ny.concentric.net [208.36.125.55])
by betelgeuse.concentric.net (8.8.5/)
id JAA02639; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:06:48 -0500 (EST)
[ConcentricHost MX Server]
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:11:24 -0500
Reply-To: [email protected]
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: SirBroccoli <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: unsubscribe
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Accept-Language: en
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:47:51 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id EAA30205;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:47:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA13683;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:47:49 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA26762;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:47:22 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA65464
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:41:11 -0800
Received: from balu.sch.bme.hu (balu.sch.bme.hu [152.66.224.40])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA01885
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:41:10 -0800
Received: from localhost (tusi@localhost)
by balu.sch.bme.hu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25774
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:41:04 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101151227420.17066-100000@balu>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:41:04 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Toth Csaba <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: getting "From:" address from ldap
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Sender: <tusi@balu>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hello,

our campus has a mail server (Sun IMS) which is configured to serve
different virtual domains, and users access their mailbox through imap.
Every email address looks like givenname.surname@organization and it can be
looked up unambiguously based on the imap login name.
There is no address exists like username@hostname.

I tried to patch pine to apply this mail address into the "From:" and
"Return-path:" fields (and after all don't ever use username@hostname, since
no such mailbox exists), but I lost in the code.
Could anyone help out, please, where I should put my ldap query code ?

Csaba

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:45 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA26804;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:43 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA18785;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:43 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA28120;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:19 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA61564
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:06:07 -0800
Received: from webbie.comstyle.com (mail.comstyle.com [206.172.20.10])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA27838
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:06:07 -0800
Received: from ss5 ([206.172.20.171]) by webbie.comstyle.com
(Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66984U100L100S0V35)
with ESMTP id com for <[email protected]>;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:07:11 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:05:54 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Brad <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: UW actually releasing patches for security issues
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Is UW ever going to actually release patches for reported security issues
? or are users of their software stuck having to wait months and months
for a new version to be released that fixes them.

// Brad

[email protected]
[email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:25:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA31935;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:25:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA24579;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:25:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA34220;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:24:40 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA61646
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:21:44 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA09063
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:21:43 -0800
Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0FMLct51096
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:21:38 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by elk.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA42132
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:21:37 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:21:37 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: UW actually releasing patches for security issues
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: elk.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

you got it. they probably won't. that's the usual operating procedure.
they have before. but releasing patches for specific security issues is
probably more trouble to the Pine-Dev team than just releasing new
versions with multiple fixes. it's not always months before a new
versions comes out. if you look at Pine Release Chronology & Version
Changes:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html

you'd see that 3 releases occurred in one month.

aaron

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Brad wrote:

> Is UW ever going to actually release patches for reported security issues
> ? or are users of their software stuck having to wait months and months
> for a new version to be released that fixes them.
>
> // Brad

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:50:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA12724;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:50:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA27040;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:50:48 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA24036;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:50:24 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA53256
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:48:47 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA01712
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:48:46 -0800
Received: (qmail 26840 invoked by uid 1828); 16 Jan 2001 00:48:46 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:48:46 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: filter question
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Ok, this is 4.21 on my personal acct (same disclaimer - I have asked for
it to be updated - apparently it's nontrivial since they use some nonstandard
mailer). Oooh, 4.30 (on my work acct) has more useful help info.. but it
doesn't seem to answer my question..

As much as I personally detest spam filtering, I think I'll finally try
to set one up(*). I don't see an obvious way to do a NOT..

My idea is:

To address != ([email protected] | lateshownews mailinglist | pine mailing
list | a few other mailing lists I'm on)
move to possiblespam folder
(obviously I'll use the real addresses above).

Everything else will still sit in my INBOX. And since pine awesomely
hides filtered messages from me (one of the VERY few times I support hiding
information from the user), I basically won't see the spam messages until I
go look in that folder. (I'm way too untrusting to delete the messages
automatically, even if I almost never get a non-spam message hit by the
filter.)

(*) I think filtering spam is basically giving in and implicity supporting
evilness. I have my address book filled out with anti-spam addresses and
the very useful bwwhois (www.bw.org) helps look up IP numbers for others...
But after getting a threat a few days ago (info on news.admin.net-abuse.email),
maybe I should be a LITTLE bit less zealous about it.

Though if I could *bounce* the messages as if I had never received them, that
would be great.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:48:03 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id UAA26469;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:48:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA25783;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:48:01 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA23816;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:47:37 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA50836
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:46:07 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA85642;
Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:46:04 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.4.31.99.0101152040100.79816-100000@bp15.u.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:46:03 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: filter question
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> To address != ([email protected] | lateshownews mailinglist | pine mailing
> list | a few other mailing lists I'm on)
> move to possiblespam folder

The only way I know of to set up a NOT operator in Pine's filtering is to
use Scores. If you wanted to do that operation, you couldd assign a score
of, say, 10 to each of those conditions, and then set the filter to move
anything with a score less than 10. Of course, scoring can be way more
powerful than that, but that's all I use it for. :)

> (*) I think filtering spam is basically giving in and implicity supporting
> evilness. I have my address book filled out with anti-spam addresses and
> the very useful bwwhois (www.bw.org) helps look up IP numbers for others...

I don't think the two are necessarily connected. I filter spam to a
junk-mail folder, and then use www.spamcop.net to report any mail that is
really UCE (and not just a stupid forward or something that got BCC'd to
me).

> Though if I could *bounce* the messages as if I had never received them, that
> would be great.

Yeah, that'd be cool. If anyone knows how to do this convincingly with
procmail, or even manually, please provide a pointer to the instructions.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:04:03 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA28636;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:04:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA32686;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:04:01 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA23498;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:03:40 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA144178
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:01:59 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA09184
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:01:59 -0800
Received: (qmail 783 invoked by uid 1828); 17 Jan 2001 02:01:58 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:01:58 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: how do I see the score column?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Is there a score column to turn on?

I'm playing with this scoring trick to try to emulate the "if it's not to
me or any of the mailing lists I'm on, put it in a suspected spam folder"
trick.

(He said "scoring".. huh huh, huh huh.)

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:12:20 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id UAA11035;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:12:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA29220;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:12:18 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA26712;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:11:54 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA62890
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:10:25 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA29252
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:10:25 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA200096;
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:10:24 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101162008270.310081-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:10:24 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I see the score column?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Is there a score column to turn on?

Good question, I guess nobody had thought about it before, although now
that you mention it, it makes a lot of sense.

Hopefully, this will be implemented by Pine soon.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:00:08 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA08490;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:00:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA17375;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:59:59 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA32820;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:59:37 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA122486
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:58:01 -0800
Received: from mail.sonytel.be ([193.74.243.200])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA15604
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:57:55 -0800
Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3])
by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18246
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:57:39 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:57:39 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Automating saved attachments
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi!

I have question about attachments: Is it possible to set some filter to
force pine for automatic saving any attachments into specified directory?

Regards

Murphy

---------------------------------------------------------------------
^ e-mail: ^
^ | ^ [email protected] ^ | ^
| | | [email protected] | | |
|/|\| [email protected] |/|\|
| http://www.mxp.w3.pl/klub/murphy.html |
| Everything is possible - this is only a question of time |
---------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:58:48 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA04317;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:58:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA20956;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:58:46 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA32192;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:58:12 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA122314
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:57:13 -0800
Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net [195.66.15.137])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA11570
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:57:12 -0800
Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1214 "EHLO
rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP
id <S65038AbRAQQ4g>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:56:36 +0100
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:51:00 +0100 (CET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Ralph Slooten <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Automating saved attachments
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Would this not also automatically save all those annoying html attachments
that users insist on using for E-mail too? Those are attachmants too :-)

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Piotr Martyniuk wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have question about attachments: Is it possible to set some filter to
> force pine for automatic saving any attachments into specified directory?
>
> Regards
>
> Murphy
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> ^ e-mail: ^
> ^ | ^ [email protected] ^ | ^
> | | | [email protected] | | |
> |/|\| [email protected] |/|\|
> | http://www.mxp.w3.pl/klub/murphy.html |
> | Everything is possible - this is only a question of time |
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

--
ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net
PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/axllent_nl/pubpgp.txt

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:04:46 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA21710;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:04:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA21157;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:04:44 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA31738;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:04:13 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA70670
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:02:58 -0800
Received: from nms.rz.uni-kiel.de (nms.rz.uni-kiel.de [134.245.1.2])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA25090
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:02:57 -0800
Received: from gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de by nms.rz.uni-kiel.de with Local-SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:02:36 +0100
Received: from gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de (gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de [134.245.74.222]) by gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP
id SAA26476 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:02:31 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.30.0101171800170.12427-100000@gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:02:31 +0100 (MET)
Reply-To: pine <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: pine <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: pine-info <[email protected]>
X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

hello,

i can sort the message-index in a folder with the '$' cmd. but when
i leave the folder and come back later, i have to sort again. how
can i sort permanently? do i have to the actual messages in the
file representing that folder? are there external tools for this?

thanx in advance,
andreas bunten

ps: i use pine 4.31 and 4.30 under solaris, digital unix and linux.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:23:29 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA10169;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:23:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA21721;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:23:25 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA29342;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:22:57 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA41490
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:22:15 -0800
Received: from crosseye.zunis.net (216-61-237-70.taascforce.com [216.61.237.70] (may be forged))
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA17573
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:22:14 -0800
Received: from localhost (dan@localhost)
by crosseye.zunis.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0HHL9n20312
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:21:09 -0600
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:21:09 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Dan Fulbright <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.30.0101171800170.12427-100000@gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: crosseye.zunis.net: dan owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

> i can sort the message-index in a folder with the '$' cmd. but when
> i leave the folder and come back later, i have to sort again. how
> can i sort permanently? do i have to the actual messages in the
> file representing that folder? are there external tools for this?

Look in the config screen (MSC) for sort-key.

Dan Fulbright

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:50:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA28337;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:50:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA15904;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:50:08 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA20364;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:49:40 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA70858
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:48:28 -0800
Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net [195.66.15.137])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04632
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:48:27 -0800
Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1401 "EHLO
rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP
id <S66194AbRAQRrW>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:47:22 +0100
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:41:49 +0100 (CET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Ralph Slooten <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.30.0101171800170.12427-100000@gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: pine <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Yeah, I know what you mean. Actually, once you have sorted it the way you
want, press the ";" , and then "a" to select all messages. Once they are
all selected, press the "a" key again to APPLY command, and then the "s"
key to save all the messages. Type in the location (in this case the same
folder you are in), and press enter. You will first get shocked as it'll
appear that the number of messages you have has doubled, however every
second messade is flagged with a delete flag. Now, exit the folder and go
into another, or exit pine, and return to your folder, and all messages
will be in the order you saved them as ;-)

This might sound complicated, but it's not really ;-)

Ralph

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, pine wrote:

> hello,
>
> i can sort the message-index in a folder with the '$' cmd. but when
> i leave the folder and come back later, i have to sort again. how
> can i sort permanently? do i have to the actual messages in the
> file representing that folder? are there external tools for this?
>
> thanx in advance,
> andreas bunten
>
> ps: i use pine 4.31 and 4.30 under solaris, digital unix and linux.
>
>

--
ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net
PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/axllent_nl/pubpgp.txt

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:51:31 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA13917;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:51:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA18127;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:51:30 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA27198;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:50:52 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA34694
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:47:52 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA83672;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:47:45 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.4.31.99.0101171045090.67594-100000@bp15.u.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:47:45 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Automating saved attachments
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Piotr Martyniuk wrote:

> I have question about attachments: Is it possible to set some filter to
> force pine for automatic saving any attachments into specified directory?

No, Pine can't do this. I suspect it'd be pretty easy to find a script or
something that does the job, and just have your .forward file pass a copy
along to the script at delivery time in addition to delivering the message
to your Inbox. Of course, you'd want to put some restrictions on what
gets decoded. For starters, I'd make sure text/html and text/plain
attachments aren't saved to files automatically.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:46:32 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA17490;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:46:31 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA22284;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:46:30 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA31036;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:45:38 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA89036
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:48:49 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA22559
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:48:49 -0800
Received: (qmail 28418 invoked by uid 1828); 17 Jan 2001 19:48:48 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:48:48 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I see the score column?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:10:24 -0800 (PST)
>From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
>To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: how do I see the score column?
>
>*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
>:) Is there a score column to turn on?
>
>Good question, I guess nobody had thought about it before, although now
>that you mention it, it makes a lot of sense.

When I asked the question I think I was remembering the score column
which was recently added to trn.. (I don't use scoring in trn.)

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:06:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA24287;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:06:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA30171;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:06:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA04452;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:05:20 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA63426
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:03:55 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA30517
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:03:55 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA159078;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:03:52 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.31.0101171258390.26522-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:03:51 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.30.0101171800170.12427-100000@gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: pine <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** pine ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) i can sort the message-index in a folder with the '$' cmd. but when
:) i leave the folder and come back later, i have to sort again. how
:) can i sort permanently? do i have to the actual messages in the file
:) representing that folder? are there external tools for this?

You can set *all* your folders to be sorted in the same way by changing
the sort-key configuration option, that may solve your problem.

If you want to have a per-folder-sort-key you can use a patch that I
wrote (which you can pick from my web page below) called "define your own
rules...", after you apply the patch all you need to do is to go to your
configuration option and define something like:

_FOLDER_ == {folder_name} => _SORT_{sort_type}

in the new "sort-rules" configuration option. There's extensive help in my
web page and in pine onli help after you apply the patch on all the
options available to you and how to define more "sort-rules".

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:46:02 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA03317;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:46:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA07698;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:46:00 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA07620;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:45:32 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA152618
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:38 -0800
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA18600
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:38 -0800
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA00482;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:37 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA22896;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:33 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA61296
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:07 -0800
Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA08912
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800
Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2])
by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA05493
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800
Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201])
by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA04627
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.32.0101171600270.17143-100000@shiva1.cac.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Pine 4.32 now available
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-To: Pine Announcement List <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
version 4.32. This release introduces no new major functionality, but
is intended to address bugs found in earlier versions.

Specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R"
off the Main Menu), and via:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/

Source for the latest Pine release is available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz

and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
are available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed

The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm432w32.zip

As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
before placing Pine into production use.

The Pine Development Team

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html
-------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:21:44 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA24405;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:21:43 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA08683;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:21:42 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA07442;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:21:20 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA71754
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:19:54 -0800
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA00735
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:19:54 -0800
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA01398;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:19:53 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA26764;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:18:46 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA96940
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:33:29 -0800
Received: from pitts-gate2.bayer.com (pitts-gate2.bayer.com [198.83.128.6])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA16885
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:33:29 -0800
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com id UAA16490
(InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for [email protected]);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-7);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-6);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-5);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-4);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Received: by pitts-gate2.bayer.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:27 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: User Corin.Drummond.B ([email protected]) not
listed in public Name & Address Book
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="==IFJRGLKFGIR38918UHRUHIHD"
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-To: [email protected]
X-Mimetrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MOXANR/US/BAYER(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at
01/17/2001 08:30:57 PM,
Serialize by Router on MOXANR/US/BAYER(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at
01/17/2001 08:31:13 PM,
Serialize complete at 01/17/2001 08:31:13 PM
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

--==IFJRGLKFGIR38918UHRUHIHD
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Your message

Subject: Pine 4.32 now available

was not delivered to:

[email protected]

because:

User Corin.Drummond.B ([email protected]) not listed in public Name & Address Book

--==IFJRGLKFGIR38918UHRUHIHD
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns;moxanr.pitts.bayer.com

Final-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Diagnostic-Code: X-Notes; User Corin.Drummond.B ([email protected]) not listed in public Name & Address Book

--==IFJRGLKFGIR38918UHRUHIHD
Content-Type: message/rfc822

Received: from pitts-internet2.bayer.com ([198.83.129.6])
by moxanr.pitts.bayer.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5)
with SMTP id 2001011720305774:66632 ;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:30:57 -0500
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu by pitts-gate2.bayer.com with SMTP id UAA16347
(InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for <[email protected]>);
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:33:10 -0500
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA30158;
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:24:28 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA61296
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:07 -0800
Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA08912
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800
Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2])
by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA05493
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800
Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201])
by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA04627
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.32.0101171600270.17143-100000@shiva1.cac.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:00 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-announce>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-announce%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> (Postings are moderated)
From: Steve Hubert <[email protected]>
To: Pine Announcement List <[email protected]>
Subject: Pine 4.32 now available
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN
X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MOXANR/US/BAYER(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at
01/17/2001 08:30:57 PM,
Serialize by Router on MOXANR/US/BAYER(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at
01/17/2001 08:31:13 PM,
Serialize complete at 01/17/2001 08:31:13 PM
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
version 4.32. This release introduces no new major functionality, but
is intended to address bugs found in earlier versions.

Specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R"
off the Main Menu), and via:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/

Source for the latest Pine release is available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz

and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
are available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed

The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm432w32.zip

As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
before placing Pine into production use.

The Pine Development Team

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html
-------------------------------------------------------------

--==IFJRGLKFGIR38918UHRUHIHD--
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html
-------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html
-------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:28:01 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id FAA16347;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:28:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA14435;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:27:55 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA16840;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:27:36 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA151408
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:26:06 -0800
Received: from mccoy.lsa.umich.edu (mccoy.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.61.24])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA29614
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:26:06 -0800
Received: from mozi.admin.lsa.umich.edu (mozi.admin.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.32.139])
by mccoy.lsa.umich.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IDPtd21594
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:25:55 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0101180814530.16490-100000@mozi.admin.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:26:05 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Mark Montague <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: use-sender-not-x-sender feature
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I'm using Pine 4.31. Recently, a user replied to one of my messages
using the address from the X-X-Sender header line (apparently they
are using Eudora which automatically selected this address for them).
The only documentation I can find on X-X-Sender with regards to Pine is:

> FEATURE: use-sender-not-X-Sender
>
> Normally Pine adds a header line labeled X-X-Sender, if the sender is
> different from the From: line. The standard specifies that this header
> line should be labeled Sender, not X-X-Sender. Setting this feature
> causes Sender to be used instead of X-X-Sender.

Questions:

- Why is X-X-Sender added? What's it's purpose? (I.e., why not
just let the MTA add X-Sender instead?)

- What are the ramifications of turning on the use-sender-not-x-sender
feature? How will this affect people responding to messages?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Mark Montague
LS&A Information Technology
The University of Michigan
[email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:31:27 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA29905;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:31:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA22987;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:31:25 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA18246;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:30:52 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA151348
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:27:22 -0800
Received: from webbie.comstyle.com (mail.comstyle.com [206.172.20.10])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA19295
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:27:21 -0800
Received: from ss5 ([206.172.20.171]) by webbie.comstyle.com
(Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66984U100L100S0V35)
with ESMTP id com for <[email protected]>;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:28:53 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:27:09 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Brad <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Pine 4.32 is broken
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Well it's quite obvious that someone screwed up with Pine 4.32 and didn't
even bother to compile test it, pine/helptext.c is not complete.

WTF, and the Pine-Info mailing list archive on the website is missing all
the links except for 3 months in 1996.

// Brad

[email protected]
[email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:45:31 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA01690;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:45:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA16087;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:45:29 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA18344;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:45:11 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA103318
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:44:19 -0800
Received: from rwja.umdnj.edu (rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA29791
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:44:18 -0800
Received: from grindstone.UMDNJ.EDU (grindstone.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.210])
by rwja.umdnj.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04760;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:44:14 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:44:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Cliff Green <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine 4.32 is broken
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Brad <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Brad wrote:

B>Well it's quite obvious that someone screwed up with Pine 4.32 and didn't
B>even bother to compile test it, pine/helptext.c is not complete.

Interesting. What's not there? I must have screwed up somehow: my copy
compiled fine, and doesn't seem to be missing anything. On the other
hand, how would I know?

B>WTF, and the Pine-Info mailing list archive on the website is missing all
B>the links except for 3 months in 1996.

Yeah. Again, interesting. The archives are there, but the links aren't,
and when one explicitly enters a given year.month URL, there's one link,
using the first message's subject, but pointing to the entire month's
folder.

c
--
Cliff Green [email protected]
Academic Computing Service UMDNJ
-=Sent via PINE 4.32: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix=-

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:32:59 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA19929;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:32:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA19211;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:32:57 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA21720;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:32:04 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA65348
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:29:50 -0800
Received: from the.system.at ([193.170.124.123])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA14240
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:29:22 -0800
Received: from localhost (kyrah@localhost)
by the.system.at (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0IGUak05370
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:30:37 +0100
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:30:28 +0100 (CET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: karin kosina <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: possible bug in pine 4.30 ?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: the.system.at: kyrah owned process doing -bs
X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

hi everyone,

i am sorry if this is not the correct forum in which to post this, but
since i did not find any "submit a bug report" links on
www.washington.edu/pine, i thought i might as well get on your nerves =).

i think i have found a bug in pine, namely:

i am using "(*) by-nick-of-from" as my saved-msg-name-rule. now if i want to
save a message from a person that exists in my addressbooks, pine asks me if i
want to save the message in the default folder, i.e. the one named by the
sender's nickname, such as

SAVE Msg #37 to folder in <Mail> [dieter] :

if the folder does not exist, and i hit return (to accept the default), i do
not get an error message. no folder is created, and the message is not saved.
if i type the name explicitly,

SAVE Msg #37 to folder in <Mail> [dieter] :dieter

pine asks me if i want to create a folder:

Folder "dieter" in <Mail> doesn't exist. Create?

and lets me continue to save the message or cancel the action.
i feel that the same should happen if i just hit return and accept.

sorry if this has already been reported before, or fixed in a newer version. i
just thought that i should tell *someone*

have a nice day,
regards,
karin "kyrah" kosina
pgp - public key 0x1FE281EB
http://kyrah.net
http://the.system.at
+-----------------------------------><---------------------------------+
[ calm down - it's only ones and zeros ]
[ kaos keraunos kybernetos ]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: pgpenvelope 2.9.0 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/

iD8DBQE6Zxor7vvdOh/igesRAj3PAJ9iehTDrcMSGarod+Wh/1LaflV8NgCfZfYN
5uQPxT4JwbntDNEVD/tzV8M=
=aR/r
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:14:09 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA29276;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:14:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA25183;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:14:07 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA26602;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:13:20 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA136588
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:01:58 -0800
Received: from durian.team.xtra.co.nz (xtra185136.xtra.co.nz [202.27.185.136])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA17652
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:01:56 -0800
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(richard authenticated using CRAM-MD5 (0 bits))
by durian.team.xtra.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0IJ1wr11242
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:01:58 +1300
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:01:55 +1300 (NZDT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Richard Stevenson <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Display filters in 4.32
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hiya

I built Pine 4.32 on my Linux box yesterday, and it appears to be ignoring
my display filters.. going back to 4.31, they do work on the same
messages. Have there been any changes in this area that aren't in the
docs? My filters:

display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_,
_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_

FWIW, Pine 4.32 immediately shows me the content of PGP messages as is...
it looks as if the filter isn't invoked at all.

Cheers

Richard

--
Richard Stevenson, Systems Support Specialist, Telecom Xtra
Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155

Windows 2000 - proudly brought to you by the people behind EDLIN

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:50:52 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA26653;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:50:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA01717;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:50:49 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA22918;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:50:26 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA83896
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:38:47 -0800
Received: from webbie.comstyle.com (mail.comstyle.com [206.172.20.10])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA31540
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:38:46 -0800
Received: from ss5 ([206.172.20.171]) by webbie.comstyle.com
(Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66984U100L100S0V35)
with ESMTP id com; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:39:28 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:38:38 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Brad <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine 4.32 is broken
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Cliff Green <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

>B>Well it's quite obvious that someone screwed up with Pine 4.32 and didn't
>B>even bother to compile test it, pine/helptext.c is not complete.
>
>Interesting. What's not there? I must have screwed up somehow: my copy
>compiled fine, and doesn't seem to be missing anything. On the other
>hand, how would I know?

Sorry for spouting off so quickly before really looking into the problem a
little closer, looks like I had a corrupt tarball from the FTP site which
affected pine.hlp and thus the autogenerated pine/helptext.c was
incomplete.

// Brad

[email protected]
[email protected]

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:09:26 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA27592;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:09:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA00855;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:09:21 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA25122;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:08:52 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA119110
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:06:47 -0800
Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA07035
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:06:45 -0800
Received: (qmail 7525 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 11:33:56 +1100
Received: from trowel.geac.com.au (134.128.219.30)
by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 11:33:56 +1100
Received: (qmail 19046 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 10:06:41 +1100
Received: from fgh.geac.com.au (134.128.222.46)
by trowel.geac.com.au with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 10:06:41 +1100
Received: from localhost (dave@localhost)
by fgh.geac.com.au with ESMTP id KAA03728
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:05:08 +1100 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:05:08 +1100 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Dave Horsfall <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine 4.32 is broken
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion List <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: fgh.geac.com.au: dave owned process doing -bs
X-No-Archive: Yes
X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
X-Witty-Saying: "Mobius Strip - See other side for instructions"
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Brad wrote:

> Well it's quite obvious that someone screwed up with Pine 4.32 and didn't
> even bother to compile test it, pine/helptext.c is not complete.

In other words, it didn't work for YOU. Worked for me just fine, Solaris
2.6 using GCC and NOSSL. You sure you're allowed near a compiler?

--
Dave Horsfall CL VK2KFU [email protected] Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: * 9978-7490
Geac Computers P/L (ERP Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:10:58 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA18980;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:10:57 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA08873;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:10:57 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA20742;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:10:37 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA23360
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:08:19 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA80578;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:08:17 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:08:17 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: possible bug in pine 4.30 ?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: karin kosina <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, karin kosina wrote:

> SAVE Msg #37 to folder in <Mail> [dieter] :
>
> if the folder does not exist, and i hit return (to accept the default), i do
> not get an error message. no folder is created, and the message is not saved.

I think this bug was reported and fixed in 4.31. If you can, you should
upgrade to 4.32, as there are a number of bugs in 4.30.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:36:20 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA00213;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:36:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA04123;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:36:17 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA24900;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:35:54 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA110568
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:19:22 -0800
Received: from femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([email protected] [24.0.95.89])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA18446
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:19:19 -0800
Received: from C1164653-A ([65.0.43.125]) by femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com
(InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP
id <20010119001917.YWCA7869.femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com@C1164653-A>;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:19:17 -0800
Message-Id: <3A671764.15546.6FCF8D@localhost>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:18:44 -0800
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Keith Wyatt - N6JPA" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: use-sender-not-x-sender feature
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0101180814530.16490-100000@mozi.admin.lsa.umich.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-To: Mark Montague <[email protected]>,
Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

X-Sender or X-X-Sender doesn't mean anything. Sender is often used
for moderation in newsgroups and some mail list. Frankly I think Pine
should simply drop the Sender or X-Sender and if you want it you can
add it with a custom header. X-whatever: blah blah is used as a
comment in mail and news headers.

On 18 Jan 2001, at 8:26, Mark Montague wrote:

>
> I'm using Pine 4.31. Recently, a user replied to one of my messages
> using the address from the X-X-Sender header line (apparently they are
> using Eudora which automatically selected this address for them). The
> only documentation I can find on X-X-Sender with regards to Pine is:
>
> > FEATURE: use-sender-not-X-Sender
> >
> > Normally Pine adds a header line labeled X-X-Sender, if the sender
> > is different from the From: line. The standard specifies that this
> > header line should be labeled Sender, not X-X-Sender. Setting this
> > feature causes Sender to be used instead of X-X-Sender.
>
> Questions:
>
> - Why is X-X-Sender added? What's it's purpose? (I.e., why not
> just let the MTA add X-Sender instead?)
>
> - What are the ramifications of turning on the
> use-sender-not-x-sender
> feature? How will this affect people responding to messages?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Montague
> LS&A Information Technology
> The University of Michigan
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------

--
Best Regards,

Keith
========================================================
http://strongsignals.com The place to find freeware!!
Now with full program descriptions of all freeware!
========================================================

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:26:20 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA02913;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:26:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA05598;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:26:16 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA31746;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:25:57 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA131096
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:23:37 -0800
Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA06507
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:23:37 -0800
Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196])
by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA04435;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:23:37 -0800
Received: from jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(authenticated)
by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f0J1NaD26283;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:23:36 -0800
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101181718250.1244-100000@jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:23:36 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jeff Franklin <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Display filters in 4.32
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Richard Stevenson <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Richard Stevenson wrote:

> Hiya
>
> I built Pine 4.32 on my Linux box yesterday, and it appears to be ignoring
> my display filters.. going back to 4.31, they do work on the same
> messages. Have there been any changes in this area that aren't in the
> docs? My filters:
>
> display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_,
> _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_
>
> FWIW, Pine 4.32 immediately shows me the content of PGP messages as is...
> it looks as if the filter isn't invoked at all.

Hi Richard,

We have seen a few other reports of this problem happening, but so far,
we're unable to reproduce it. We'll let you know if we find out more, but
in the meantime, could you send us some debugging information after
running with the -d 9 option? Is anyone else on this list experiencing
this problem?

Thanks,
Jeff

--
Jeff Franklin <[email protected]>
Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:39:06 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA13591;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:39:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA07309;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:39:05 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA15212;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:38:39 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA126538
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:37:26 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA17447
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:37:26 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA317621;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:37:24 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101181833440.117884-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:37:23 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Display filters in 4.32
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101181718250.1244-100000@jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jeff Franklin <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Jeff Franklin ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) > display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_,
:) > _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_
:) >
:) > FWIW, Pine 4.32 immediately shows me the content of PGP messages as is...
:) > it looks as if the filter isn't invoked at all.
:)
:) Hi Richard,
:)
:) We have seen a few other reports of this problem happening, but so far,
:) we're unable to reproduce it. We'll let you know if we find out more, but
:) in the meantime, could you send us some debugging information after
:) running with the -d 9 option? Is anyone else on this list experiencing
:) this problem?

I could reproduce some variant of this problem. I tried the following
display-filter:

_BEGINNING("<HTML>")_ /usr/local/bin/lynx -force_html _TMPFILE_

which failed on the following text:

<HTML>
<P>test
</HTML>

However, eliminating the quotation signs made it work:

_BEGINNING(<HTML>)_ /usr/local/bin/lynx -force_html _TMPFILE_

I guess the test includes the quotations, and that's the bug.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:10:15 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA20590;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:10:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA07928;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:10:13 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA22380;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:09:47 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA115192
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:06:37 -0800
Received: from durian.team.xtra.co.nz (xtra185136.xtra.co.nz [202.27.185.136])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA28980
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:06:36 -0800
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(richard authenticated using CRAM-MD5 (0 bits))
by durian.team.xtra.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0J36cr11948
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:06:38 +1300
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:06:36 +1300 (NZDT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Richard Stevenson <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Display filters in 4.32
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101181833440.117884-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> I guess the test includes the quotations, and that's the bug.

Hmm... yep. From my debug file for 4.31:

static trigger: "_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_" --> "_BEGINNING(-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED)_" and "/home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_"

And from 4.32:

static trigger: "_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_" --> "_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_" and "/home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_"

The double quotes are the difference. Now I've just got to find the right
place in the source :)

Cheers

R

--
Richard Stevenson, Systems Support Specialist, Telecom Xtra
Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155

Windows 2000 - proudly brought to you by the people behind EDLIN

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:43:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA14963;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:43:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA15872;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:43:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA26556;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:42:45 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA126466
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:41:53 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA24873
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:41:53 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA179049;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:41:50 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101181938040.124348-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:41:50 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Display filters in 4.32
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Richard Stevenson <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Richard Stevenson ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
:)
:) > I guess the test includes the quotations, and that's the bug.
:)
:) Hmm... yep. From my debug file for 4.31:
:)
:) static trigger: "_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_" --> "_BEGINNING(-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED)_" and "/home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_"
:)
:) And from 4.32:
:)
:) static trigger: "_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_" --> "_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_" and "/home/richard/.pgp/verify2.tcsh _TMPFILE_"
:)
:)
:) The double quotes are the difference. Now I've just got to find the right
:) place in the source :)

Make the change in line 3902 in file mailpart.c. You need to eliminate the
quotes from the "str" variable. I do not know if there's already a
function that does that for you (so that if you really meant to have a
quote as the first character of the filter it will be considered). In any
case for what you want this should be easy to do.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:18:55 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id UAA25230;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:18:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA16636;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:18:53 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA27978;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:18:33 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA29232
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:17:59 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA07928
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:17:59 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (HSE-MTL-ppp11845.qc.sympatico.ca [209.226.179.171])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18875;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:13:34 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0J4J2C03660;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:19:02 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:19:01 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.30.0101171800170.12427-100000@gretchen.pz-oekosys.uni-kiel.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: pine <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, pine wrote:

>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:02:31 +0100 (MET)
>From: pine <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
>
>hello,
>
>i can sort the message-index in a folder with the '$' cmd. but when
>i leave the folder and come back later, i have to sort again. how
>can i sort permanently? do i have to the actual messages in the
>file representing that folder? are there external tools for this?
>
>thanx in advance,
>andreas bunten
>
>ps: i use pine 4.31 and 4.30 under solaris, digital unix and linux.

Sort the folder, then do apply->save->enter a temp folder name,
then go inm the temp folder, hit select all (;)->a->apply->save
to the original folder.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"If it isn't source, it isn't software." -- NASA

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:57 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id UAA01155;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA09772;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:55 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA25156;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:36 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA106226
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:05 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA09768
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:04 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA308886;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:03 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101182030560.124730-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:03 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Mike A. Harris ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) Sort the folder, then do apply->save->enter a temp folder name,
:) then go inm the temp folder, hit select all (;)->a->apply->save
:) to the original folder.

This only solves the problem partially, since new messages saved into
the folder won't be sorted according to the sort order specified before,
so eventually you'll have to repeat the same procedure again and again...

Pine still does not have hooks for folders, which would solve this
problem much more easily.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:33:14 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA30288;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:33:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA10882;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:33:12 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA27356;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:32:52 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA94960
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:31:55 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA16750
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:31:54 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (HSE-MTL-ppp11845.qc.sympatico.ca [209.226.179.171])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19067;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:27:30 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0J5WxG03884;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:32:59 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:32:59 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101182030560.124730-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:34:03 -0800 (PST)
>From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
>To: Mike A. Harris <[email protected]>
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: Re: Q: how to sort a folder permanently
>
>*** Mike A. Harris ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:
>
>:) Sort the folder, then do apply->save->enter a temp folder name,
>:) then go inm the temp folder, hit select all (;)->a->apply->save
>:) to the original folder.
>
> This only solves the problem partially, since new messages saved into
>the folder won't be sorted according to the sort order specified before,
>so eventually you'll have to repeat the same procedure again and again...
>
> Pine still does not have hooks for folders, which would solve this
>problem much more easily.

True indeed. I know i'd find that handy for sure.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."
- Aldous Huxley

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:58:43 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA24177;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:58:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA20701;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:58:41 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA26622;
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:58:24 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA106508
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:57:16 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA29550
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:57:15 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (HSE-MTL-ppp11845.qc.sympatico.ca [209.226.179.171])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19406
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:52:46 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0J7wFg04371
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 02:58:15 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 02:58:15 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Parallel builds on SMP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Is there an easy way to build PINE on SMP box with -j2?

Just curious.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If it weren't for C, we'd all be programming in BASI and OBOL.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:31:35 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA02579;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:31:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA15118;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:31:28 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA22882;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:31:10 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA65150
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:35:44 -0800
Received: from mail.sonytel.be ([193.74.243.200])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA01589;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:35:36 -0800
Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3])
by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA28162;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:35:20 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:35:20 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Piotr Martyniuk <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Automating saved attachments
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
X-Cc: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

> > Maybe it is easy if pine is used only under Unix, but what about windows? Maybe
> > in future pine should have this option?
>
> You can recommend it to the Pine dev team by e-mailing
> [email protected], but I don't think there's much demand for such a
> feature, considering that it only requires a couple keystrokes (View,
> Save, Enter) to save an attachment manually.

If it's not to important implement this function then maybe is better to
implement macros in PINE. I'm think that will be nice to have possibility to
record/edit macros for some keystrokes.

Regards

Murphy

--
Everything is possible - this is only a question of time.

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:30:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA23325;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:30:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA28397;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:30:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA27694;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:30:35 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA88676
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:25:07 -0800
Received: from blkbox.com ([email protected] [206.109.97.2])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA18517
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:25:06 -0800
Received: from localhost (swhatley@localhost)
by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA25962
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:25:05 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:25:04 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steven Whatley <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Automating saved attachments
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi all,

I don't know if this has been brought out yet. For attachments in BASE64
and uuencoded stuff, I like using uudeview and uuenview. You can get
uudeview from:

http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~fp/uudeview/

It handles multiple attachments nicely. The tin newsreader now has code
to incorperate uudeview's libuu for much better decoding of multiple part
posts. I can select a bunch of binary threads and decode them all at
once. I hope this info helps.

My $0.02,
Steven

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:00:34 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA00626;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:00:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA23085;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:00:33 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA28308;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:00:14 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA114136
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:59:15 -0800
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA28889
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:59:15 -0800
Received: from smtpgw.sec.bnl.local ([email protected] [130.199.3.16])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA23017;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:59:13 -0800
Received: from bnl.gov ([130.199.128.163])
by smtpgw.sec.bnl.local with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
id 14Jduf-0000qg-00; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:57:17 -0500
Received: from bnl.gov (crimson.itd.bnl.gov [130.199.130.31])
by bnl.gov (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA28066;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:59:12 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:02:05 -0500
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: David Masem <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: [Fwd: Strange error, can you help? Looking for a fix!]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="------------AE342E3A9B6C938C88A5C807"
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-To: [email protected], [email protected]
X-Cc: [email protected]
X-Accept-Language: en
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------AE342E3A9B6C938C88A5C807
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Subject: Re: Strange error, can you help? Looking for a fix!
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:21:57 -0500
From: David Masem <[email protected]>
Organization: ITD
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
CC: [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected],[email protected]

Same behaivor here...

We are running Pine 3.96 on Solaris 2.5.1 and one of our users is
experiencing the exact same error message.

Has this issue ever been addressed ? The obvious reason why I ask is
because this is all I could find at the
Pine website regarding this error message. Presently this only effects
one user and I am concerned if it
propagates.

- David Masem

[email protected]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Strange error, can you help?

To: [email protected]
Subject: Strange error, can you help?
From: [email protected] (Pauline M. Marshall)
Date: 2 Jul 1996 02:46:59 GMT
Sender: [email protected]

Hi there, since upgrading our system to Linux 2.0.0, I have been
recieving
the following error:

[New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes]

I am running pine 3.93. This error doesn't happen every time. Only
every
so often. Has anyone else had this happen? What causes this? Should I

be worried? Any help would be greatly apprecitated.

PS. Please e-mail responces, I don't always get a chance to read news
(unfortunally).

Pauline Marshall
[email protected]

--------------AE342E3A9B6C938C88A5C807
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

Received: from smtpgw.sec.bnl.local ([192.168.1.21]) by exchange.bnl.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21)
id CWQ506J0; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:17:45 -0500
Received: from bnl.gov ([130.199.128.163])
by smtpgw.sec.bnl.local with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
id 14JdJ9-0007oC-00; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:19:52 -0500
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
by bnl.gov (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA18140;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:20:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: from bnl.gov (crimson.itd.bnl.gov [130.199.130.31])
by bnl.gov (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA17839;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:19:05 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:21:57 -0500
X-PH: [email protected]
From: David Masem <[email protected]>
Organization: ITD
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4m)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Strange error, can you help? Looking for a fix!
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Same behaivor here...

We are running Pine 3.96 on Solaris 2.5.1 and one of our users is
experiencing the exact same error message.

Has this issue ever been addressed ? The obvious reason why I ask is
because this is all I could find at the
Pine website regarding this error message. Presently this only effects
one user and I am concerned if it
propagates.

- David Masem

[email protected]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Strange error, can you help?

To: [email protected]
Subject: Strange error, can you help?
From: [email protected] (Pauline M. Marshall)
Date: 2 Jul 1996 02:46:59 GMT
Sender: [email protected]

Hi there, since upgrading our system to Linux 2.0.0, I have been
recieving
the following error:

[New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes]

I am running pine 3.93. This error doesn't happen every time. Only
every
so often. Has anyone else had this happen? What causes this? Should I

be worried? Any help would be greatly apprecitated.

PS. Please e-mail responces, I don't always get a chance to read news
(unfortunally).

--
___
{~._.~} - - - -- --- ---- ----- ----------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
- -
_( Y )_ I'm here, I'm awake, I'm dressed... Pauline M.
Marshall
(:_~*~_:) --=
MightyMouse =--
(_)-(_) ... WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!?
[email protected]
- - - - - -- --- ---- ----- ----------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
- -

--------------AE342E3A9B6C938C88A5C807--

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:14:25 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA29000;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:14:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA04726;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:14:18 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA24698;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:13:56 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA67410
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:11:52 -0800
Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA22462
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:11:46 -0800
Received: from shplatt.rose.hp.com (shplatt.rose.hp.com [15.29.43.228])
by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F41D20
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:11:45 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (griff@localhost)
by shplatt.rose.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id PAA11709
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:12:30 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:12:30 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jared Griffith <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: pine 4.32 attachment bug
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I've seen some strange behavior with the latest pine release (4.32)
concerning the viewing of attachments. The first time I attempted to view
a JPEG attachment (using xv), it failed. Xv complained that the filename
didn't exist. I checked my /var/tmp directory and the file wasn't there.
I repeated the attempt several times and finally the image popped up. I
checked the /var/tmp directory and, strangely, the file was NOT there.
There seems to be a race condition where pine deletes the file before xv
can grab it and xv wins on occasion.

I went back to 4.31 and the problem disappears and the file remains in
/var/tmp until I close xv.

Jared

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:52:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA21747;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:52:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA16998;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:52:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA22842;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:51:40 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA76938
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:50:39 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA12527
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:50:38 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA442577;
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:47:59 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101191746370.245409-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:47:59 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: pine 4.32 attachment bug
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jared Griffith <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Jared Griffith ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) I've seen some strange behavior with the latest pine release (4.32)
:) concerning the viewing of attachments. The first time I attempted to view
:) a JPEG attachment (using xv), it failed. Xv complained that the filename
:) didn't exist.

I have written a patch that deletes the line that causes this problem.
Look for the patch in my web page and look for undex "bug fixes"

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:15:56 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA29385;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:15:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA18621;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:15:54 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA08656;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:15:14 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA126024
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:12:16 -0800
Received: from ascc.artsci.wustl.edu (ascc.artsci.wustl.edu [128.252.93.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04567
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:12:15 -0800
Received: from artsci.wustl.edu (grainger.artsci.wustl.edu [128.252.93.7])
by ascc.artsci.wustl.edu (8.8.5/CTS-JEK1.2) with ESMTP id LAA14832
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:12:14 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:12:14 -0600
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Ken Keller <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: LCC not working in 4.31
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Accept-Language: en
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi!

When using the Lcc field in Pine 4.31 as such:

To : Test List: ;
Cc :
Bcc :
Newsgrps:
Fcc : sent-mail
Lcc : Test List -- Ken Keller <[email protected]>,
ASC <[email protected]>
Attchmnt:
Subject : Test

Pine automatically fills in the To: field with the listname. When
we try to send, we get the error message:

Test List: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses
/home/artsci/admin/ascc/asc/dead.letter... Saved message in
/home/artsci/admin/ascc/asc/dead.letter

The message still gets sent though.

If we remove the listname from the To field and enter a vaild
address, the message is sent correctly to all addresses with no errors.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Ken

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:38:14 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA30554;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:38:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA29778;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:38:12 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA19552;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:37:22 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA21978
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:36:06 -0800
Received: from usc.edu ([email protected] [128.125.253.136])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA14098
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:36:06 -0800
Received: from iris.usc.edu ([email protected] [128.125.4.76])
by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP
id SAA07190 for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:36:06 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (han@localhost)
by iris.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP
id SAA04835 for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:36:04 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:36:04 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Song Han <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi,

I have 600 e-mail addresses in this format (each line ends with a RETURN):

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
.......
.......
.......
.......
[email protected]

How can I send a text file to all 600 people?

Thanks,

Song

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:46:37 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA26070;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:46:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA06178;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:46:34 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA16196;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:46:15 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA60020
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:45:25 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA15339
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:45:23 -0800
Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0N2jKD93372
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:45:20 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by elk.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA57654
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:45:20 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:45:20 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: elk.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

i'm going from my head but try this:

send the file to yourself (or just Fcc it) view the file, press T to take
the addresses, press list mode press A to Select All (press X on any
addresses you don't want to take, like your own), press T to take
addresses and save all these addresses as a distribution list and give
it nickname. that should help you out a lot.

aaron

--
SPAM - Un-solicited Email Sucks
"People who send Spam Suck!"

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:08:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA30490;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:08:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA06678;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:08:08 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA15706;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:07:42 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA106068
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:06:51 -0800
Received: from zeus.med.uottawa.ca (zeus.med.uottawa.ca [137.122.224.2])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA15431
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:06:50 -0800
Received: from localhost (nbirkett@localhost)
by zeus.med.uottawa.ca (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17879;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:05:38 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:05:38 -0500 (EST)
Reply-To: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

As a recipient of these directed mass e-mails (usually from professional
societies to which I belong), one annoyance is having to
scroll through a list of 600 e-mail addresses before reaching the
message. I would encourage you to use a method which 'hides' the address
list. I do this by creating an alias on our UNIX system which I can
access using a single e-mail address (eg. maillist). Then, the message
gets sent to everyone on the list but none of the recipients sees the full
list of people receiving the message, just the address I use. I don't
know if the method below will similarly 'hide' the full list of
recipients.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Aaron S. Hawley wrote:

> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:45:20 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
>
> i'm going from my head but try this:
>
> send the file to yourself (or just Fcc it) view the file, press T to take
> the addresses, press list mode press A to Select All (press X on any
> addresses you don't want to take, like your own), press T to take
> addresses and save all these addresses as a distribution list and give
> it nickname. that should help you out a lot.
>
> aaron
>
> --
> SPAM - Un-solicited Email Sucks
> "People who send Spam Suck!"
>
>
>
>
>

========================================================================
Nicholas Birkett, M.D., M.Sc.
Epidemiology and Community Medicine
University of Ottawa [email protected]
451 Smyth Rd., (613)-562-5800 x 8289 (voice)
Ottawa, Ontario, (613)-562-5465 (fax)
Canada. K1H 8M5
=========================================================================

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:31:12 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA00254;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:31:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA30846;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:31:10 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA24832;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:30:50 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA22300
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:30:10 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA10242
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:30:09 -0800
Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0N3U7D39366
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:30:07 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by elk.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA29716
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:30:06 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:30:06 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: elk.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

to hide annoying addresses use the "Lcc:" field.

aaron

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:35:27 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA23792;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:35:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA09548;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:35:26 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA15624;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:34:51 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA114986
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:33:39 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA24698
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:33:39 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129021.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.140])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03485;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:29:27 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0N3Q8d29402;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:26:08 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:26:07 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Aaron S. Hawley wrote:

>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:45:20 -0500 (EST)
>From: Aaron S. Hawley <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
>
>i'm going from my head but try this:
>
>send the file to yourself (or just Fcc it) view the file, press T to take
>the addresses, press list mode press A to Select All (press X on any
>addresses you don't want to take, like your own), press T to take
>addresses and save all these addresses as a distribution list and give
>it nickname. that should help you out a lot.
>
>aaron
>
>--
>SPAM - Un-solicited Email Sucks
>"People who send Spam Suck!"

Why does your signature, not match the intentions in your
response? Talk about your contradictory emails...

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Press every key to continue.

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:36:07 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA11595;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:36:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA01010;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:36:04 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA15634;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:35:46 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA80694
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:34:05 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA24756
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:34:04 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129021.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.140])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03489;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:29:29 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0N3NfP29385;
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:23:41 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:23:41 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Song Han <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:

>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:36:04 -0800 (PST)
>From: Song Han <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I have 600 e-mail addresses in this format (each line ends with a RETURN):
>
>[email protected]
>[email protected]
>[email protected]
>........
>........
>........
>........
>[email protected]
>
>
>How can I send a text file to all 600 people?

In short - you DONT.

Just in case the short story doesn't explain it clearly, I've
forwarded this to the local admin of usc.edu so he can describe
to you the LONG story of just why you do not want to do that.

The short version of his long story will likely be along the
lines of:

[[email protected]]$ ssh -l root usc.edu
[[email protected]:~]# userdel -r han
[[email protected]:~]# exit
$ /usr/games/quake/quake

SPAM is SPAM is SPAM. Stop SPAM.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're looking for Linux books, guides, and other documentation, visit
the Linux Documentation Project homepage: http://www.linuxdoc.org

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:51:28 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA05667;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:51:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA05675;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:51:26 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA29040;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:51:04 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA41634
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:49:43 -0800
Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA12249
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:49:42 -0800
Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:49:36 -0600
Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:49:34 +0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:49:34 +0800 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Edward M Greshko <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> In short - you DONT.

There are very few absolutes in this world. I would modify your statement
to say, "Normally, you don't/shouldn't".

However, one of the hats that I wear is network/email admin for about 400
people. At times I do need to send messages and sometimes files to my
"customers".

While 400 is a slight bit less than 600 even 600 would be small to a
"real spammer".

A "real spammer" wouldn't waste their time using pine or any other UA to
ply their trade. They'd simply pull spamming SW off the net and set to
work after they pay a few $ for millions of email addresses....some of
which may even be valid. :-)

--
Edward M. Greshko
Technical Manager Syntegra Asia Region

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:19:27 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id DAA32416;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:19:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA16061;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:19:25 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id DAA20052;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:18:55 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id DAA68094
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:17:24 -0800
Received: from zeus.med.uottawa.ca (zeus.med.uottawa.ca [137.122.224.2])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA17935
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:17:24 -0800
Received: from localhost (nbirkett@localhost)
by zeus.med.uottawa.ca (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA18556;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:16:07 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:16:07 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

> >How can I send a text file to all 600 people?
>
> In short - you DONT.

I HATE Spam too. However, there can be legitimate reasons for sending a
mailing to a group of 600 people. I subscribe to e-mail distribution of
Table of Contents from various journals, list of grants available from the
NIH, professional societies who use e-mail to reach their entire
membership list with announcements, etc. These are not abusive.

Spam only relates to mass e-mails to people you have not asked to get the
e-mail.

========================================================================
Nicholas Birkett, M.D., M.Sc.
Epidemiology and Community Medicine
University of Ottawa [email protected]
451 Smyth Rd., (613)-562-5800 x 8289 (voice)
Ottawa, Ontario, (613)-562-5465 (fax)
Canada. K1H 8M5
=========================================================================

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:12:04 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA17282;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:12:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA24638;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:12:02 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA23010;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:11:36 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA135924
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:10:03 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA08280
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:10:02 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129021.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.140])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05793;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:05:50 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0NHBPJ32073;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:11:25 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:11:25 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Nick Birkett (x8289) wrote:

>> >How can I send a text file to all 600 people?
>>
>> In short - you DONT.
>
>I HATE Spam too. However, there can be legitimate reasons for sending a
>mailing to a group of 600 people.

And someone needing to do so would likely know how to do so, or
could ask someone at the local help desk.

Asking on a public mailing list without mentioning the purpose,
in the context that it was done very much appears to be a spammer
in training. If it was indeed legitimate, I would have expected
a "disclaimer" of sorts describing the legitimate use.

Universities have helpdesks to handle these sorts of problems.

>I subscribe to e-mail distribution of Table of Contents from
>various journals, list of grants available from the NIH,
>professional societies who use e-mail to reach their entire
>membership list with announcements, etc. These are not
>abusive.

I'm not arguing that all uses of sending 600 mails at a time are
abusive. I'm saying that the person asking for help looks like a
spammer in training and made no effort to make anyone think
otherwise. If I am wrong, then I apologize for being so, however
I do not in any way think my assumptions are unjustified. I get
30 to 70 spam *every day*, so I am quite anti-spam.

If I receive spam originating from usc now, I know where to turn.
;o)

>Spam only relates to mass e-mails to people you have not asked to get the
>e-mail.

Sure, and judging the message, that was likely to occur IMHO.
Again, if I am wrong about the intent - the poster was not clear
enough to start with on this sensitive info. Kindof like someone
asking how do you mix chemicals to make an explosive that could
kill 5000 people on a mailing list that discusses gunpowder.
They could be using the info to blow up rocks, but at a power
that could potentially kill 5000 people. If someone said however
"How do I make an explosive that could potentially kill 5000
people" the response would be similar to my own. If the intent
was to blow up rocks, and only use people as a guaging factor,
then one should clarify that, lest they be misunderstood.

I also will note that lots of people are jumping in to the
defense of the poster yet nobody knows what the intent was at
all, and there has been no response (that I've seen yet)
indicating the intent or lack of, so I am sticking with my
initial assumption which I think is wholly fair.

In this case, I would rather err on the side of caution and
perhaps make a misjudgement just to fight spam, than to help the
person, perhaps misjudging their intent and help them to spam.
If they truly need to send an honest message to 600 people, they
can find out how to do so quite easily anyway, it isn't rocket
science really.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program. ;o)

Take care,
TTYL

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And 1.1.81 is officially BugFree(tm), so if you receive any bug-reports
on it, you know they are just evil lies.
-- Linus Torvalds

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:38:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA15741;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:38:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA30584;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:38:08 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA21184;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:37:07 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA22430
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:28:40 -0800
Received: from usc-fs1.usc.edu ([email protected] [128.125.150.4])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA25951
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:28:39 -0800
Received: from iris.usc.edu ([email protected] [128.125.4.76])
by usc-fs1.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP
id f0NJR6115940; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:27:06 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (han@localhost)
by iris.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP
id LAA13405; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:26:56 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:26:56 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Song Han <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I hold a PhD degree in Computer Science and now act as a program chair for
an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.

I have checked the man page of pine, but it does not say how to
send an e-mail to a group (hiding the addresses). I felt very bad when you
sent so many e-mails to admins in the department, the
school, the university. Anyway, I thank all for helps.

Song

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Nick Birkett (x8289) wrote:
>
> >> >How can I send a text file to all 600 people?
> >>
> >> In short - you DONT.
> >
> >I HATE Spam too. However, there can be legitimate reasons for sending a
> >mailing to a group of 600 people.
>
> And someone needing to do so would likely know how to do so, or
> could ask someone at the local help desk.
>
> Asking on a public mailing list without mentioning the purpose,
> in the context that it was done very much appears to be a spammer
> in training. If it was indeed legitimate, I would have expected
> a "disclaimer" of sorts describing the legitimate use.
>
> Universities have helpdesks to handle these sorts of problems.
>
>
> >I subscribe to e-mail distribution of Table of Contents from
> >various journals, list of grants available from the NIH,
> >professional societies who use e-mail to reach their entire
> >membership list with announcements, etc. These are not
> >abusive.
>
> I'm not arguing that all uses of sending 600 mails at a time are
> abusive. I'm saying that the person asking for help looks like a
> spammer in training and made no effort to make anyone think
> otherwise. If I am wrong, then I apologize for being so, however
> I do not in any way think my assumptions are unjustified. I get
> 30 to 70 spam *every day*, so I am quite anti-spam.
>
> If I receive spam originating from usc now, I know where to turn.
> ;o)
>
>
> >Spam only relates to mass e-mails to people you have not asked to get the
> >e-mail.
>
> Sure, and judging the message, that was likely to occur IMHO.
> Again, if I am wrong about the intent - the poster was not clear
> enough to start with on this sensitive info. Kindof like someone
> asking how do you mix chemicals to make an explosive that could
> kill 5000 people on a mailing list that discusses gunpowder.
> They could be using the info to blow up rocks, but at a power
> that could potentially kill 5000 people. If someone said however
> "How do I make an explosive that could potentially kill 5000
> people" the response would be similar to my own. If the intent
> was to blow up rocks, and only use people as a guaging factor,
> then one should clarify that, lest they be misunderstood.
>
> I also will note that lots of people are jumping in to the
> defense of the poster yet nobody knows what the intent was at
> all, and there has been no response (that I've seen yet)
> indicating the intent or lack of, so I am sticking with my
> initial assumption which I think is wholly fair.
>
> In this case, I would rather err on the side of caution and
> perhaps make a misjudgement just to fight spam, than to help the
> person, perhaps misjudging their intent and help them to spam.
> If they truly need to send an honest message to 600 people, they
> can find out how to do so quite easily anyway, it isn't rocket
> science really.
>
> Now back to our regularly scheduled program. ;o)
>
> Take care,
> TTYL
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
> This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
> Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> And 1.1.81 is officially BugFree(tm), so if you receive any bug-reports
> on it, you know they are just evil lies.
> -- Linus Torvalds
>

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:21 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA19675;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA31248;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:18 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA26378;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:54:59 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA153024
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:52:21 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA67996;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:51:26 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:51:25 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Song Han <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

If the suggestion to use the (T)ake command didn't work, or you're having
other problems with getting the addresses into an address book entry (and
then into the Lcc: field), I'll be happy to answer any additional
questions you have on this subject. I'm sorry so many people jumped to
unfounded conclusions regarding your motives, but I can understand their
paranoia as an unfortunate consequence of the prevelance of Spam.

Let me know if you need any further help on this issue.
--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected] (Yes, that is a valid address.)
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) *
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:

>
> I hold a PhD degree in Computer Science and now act as a program chair for
> an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
> who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
> accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.
>
> I have checked the man page of pine, but it does not say how to
> send an e-mail to a group (hiding the addresses). I felt very bad when you
> sent so many e-mails to admins in the department, the
> school, the university. Anyway, I thank all for helps.
>
> Song

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:05:35 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA26858;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:05:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA22688;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:05:32 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA29950;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:05:00 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA52966
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:00:20 -0800
Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA06388
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:00:19 -0800
Received: from grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.34])
by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA04231;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:00:18 -0500 (EST)
Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45])
by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA25892;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:00:18 -0500 (EST)
Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73])
by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29766;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:00:18 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP
id PAA05229; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:00:16 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:00:15 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Song Han <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:
> I hold a PhD degree in Computer Science and now act as a program chair for
> an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
> who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
> accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.

There's no easy, universal answer. The "LCC" field is almost right,
but it's not guaranteed to work at your institution. (Do a small scale
test first, if you try use it.)

There are a number of individual, site-specific answers for how to send
mail to many people without overwhelming the message with headers.
Your local help staff may know your local way of accomplishing this.
Particularly if you open with a paragraph resembling the one above
("I'm a program chair; I need to send information to 600 people"),
they may be more likely to know exactly what you're trying to do.

-Jacob Morzinski

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:17:46 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA13724;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:17:45 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA32041;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:17:44 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA26460;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:17:14 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA162852
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:16:24 -0800
Received: from usc.edu ([email protected] [128.125.253.136])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA19308
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:16:24 -0800
Received: from skat.usc.edu ([email protected] [128.125.253.131])
by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP
id MAA18888; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:16:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: from cohiba (cohiba.usc.edu [128.125.10.160])
by skat.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP
id f0NKGG715412; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.21.0101231215500.1392-100000@cohiba>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:17:57 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Mike Walker <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Song Han <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

>I hold a PhD degree in Computer Science and now act as a program chair for
>an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
>who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
>accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.

MM supported putting a mailing list in a file and sending
to @filename; I don't think pine supports that. Try
creating an alias for them in your address book.

>I have checked the man page of pine, but it does not say how to
>send an e-mail to a group (hiding the addresses). I felt very bad when you
>sent so many e-mails to admins in the department, the
>school, the university. Anyway, I thank all for helps.

To hide addresses, put them on the Bcc: (blink carbon copy) line.
So enable your bcc: prompt.

>Song

>On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Nick Birkett (x8289) wrote:
>>
>> >> >How can I send a text file to all 600 people?
>> >>
>> >> In short - you DONT.
>> >
>> >I HATE Spam too. However, there can be legitimate reasons for sending a
>> >mailing to a group of 600 people.
>>
>> And someone needing to do so would likely know how to do so, or
>> could ask someone at the local help desk.
>>
>> Asking on a public mailing list without mentioning the purpose,
>> in the context that it was done very much appears to be a spammer
>> in training. If it was indeed legitimate, I would have expected
>> a "disclaimer" of sorts describing the legitimate use.
>>
>> Universities have helpdesks to handle these sorts of problems.
>>
>>
>> >I subscribe to e-mail distribution of Table of Contents from
>> >various journals, list of grants available from the NIH,
>> >professional societies who use e-mail to reach their entire
>> >membership list with announcements, etc. These are not
>> >abusive.
>>
>> I'm not arguing that all uses of sending 600 mails at a time are
>> abusive. I'm saying that the person asking for help looks like a
>> spammer in training and made no effort to make anyone think
>> otherwise. If I am wrong, then I apologize for being so, however
>> I do not in any way think my assumptions are unjustified. I get
>> 30 to 70 spam *every day*, so I am quite anti-spam.
>>
>> If I receive spam originating from usc now, I know where to turn.
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> >Spam only relates to mass e-mails to people you have not asked to get the
>> >e-mail.
>>
>> Sure, and judging the message, that was likely to occur IMHO.
>> Again, if I am wrong about the intent - the poster was not clear
>> enough to start with on this sensitive info. Kindof like someone
>> asking how do you mix chemicals to make an explosive that could
>> kill 5000 people on a mailing list that discusses gunpowder.
>> They could be using the info to blow up rocks, but at a power
>> that could potentially kill 5000 people. If someone said however
>> "How do I make an explosive that could potentially kill 5000
>> people" the response would be similar to my own. If the intent
>> was to blow up rocks, and only use people as a guaging factor,
>> then one should clarify that, lest they be misunderstood.
>>
>> I also will note that lots of people are jumping in to the
>> defense of the poster yet nobody knows what the intent was at
>> all, and there has been no response (that I've seen yet)
>> indicating the intent or lack of, so I am sticking with my
>> initial assumption which I think is wholly fair.
>>
>> In this case, I would rather err on the side of caution and
>> perhaps make a misjudgement just to fight spam, than to help the
>> person, perhaps misjudging their intent and help them to spam.
>> If they truly need to send an honest message to 600 people, they
>> can find out how to do so quite easily anyway, it isn't rocket
>> science really.
>>
>> Now back to our regularly scheduled program. ;o)
>>
>> Take care,
>> TTYL
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
>> This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
>> Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> And 1.1.81 is officially BugFree(tm), so if you receive any bug-reports
>> on it, you know they are just evil lies.
>> -- Linus Torvalds
>>
>

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:33:34 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA10186;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:33:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA32509;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:33:31 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA24252;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:32:51 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA44706
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:28:00 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA24506
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:28:00 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111139.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.38])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06953;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:23:50 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0NKTOn01145;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:29:24 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:29:24 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Song Han <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:

>I hold a PhD degree in Computer Science and now act as a program chair for
>an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
>who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
>accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.
>
>I have checked the man page of pine, but it does not say how to
>send an e-mail to a group (hiding the addresses). I felt very bad when you
>sent so many e-mails to admins in the department, the
>school, the university. Anyway, I thank all for helps.

Well then, probability has worked against me it seems. ;o) In
all fairness, my assumptions were not irrational. Perhaps I
could have been more patient, however I have a very hair trigger
when it comes to SPAM. I get _way_ too much spam, and the odds
leaned in the SPAM direction heavily - at least from my
viewpoint.

Also, in all fairness, I apologize for getting on your case about
it and not trusting your intentions. Please understand my strong
dislike for SPAM, and try to put yourself in my position also.

Now that you are in "not a spammer afterall" status, I hope we
can clear the water, and forget about the whole thing and move
on. Sorry if I've caused you any problem.

Take care.
TTYL

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're looking for Linux books, guides, and other documentation, visit
the Linux Documentation Project homepage: http://www.linuxdoc.org

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:35:33 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA09002;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:35:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA32596;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:35:31 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA27994;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:35:00 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA128094
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:32:24 -0800
Received: from argo.starforce.com ([email protected] [216.158.56.82])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA25434
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:32:23 -0800
Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost)
by argo.starforce.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/starforce-r1) with ESMTP id f0NKWO111157
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:32:24 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:32:13 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:
> > I hold a PhD degree in Computer Science and now act as a program chair for
> > an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
> > who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
> > accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.
>
> There's no easy, universal answer. The "LCC" field is almost right,
> but it's not guaranteed to work at your institution. (Do a small scale
> test first, if you try use it.)
>
> There are a number of individual, site-specific answers for how to send
> mail to many people without overwhelming the message with headers.
> Your local help staff may know your local way of accomplishing this.
> Particularly if you open with a paragraph resembling the one above
> ("I'm a program chair; I need to send information to 600 people"),
> they may be more likely to know exactly what you're trying to do.

It would be much easier and less load on the mail server to have your site
admin setup a mailing list (sympa, majordomo, listproc) for your
class...this way you or an assistant could just use the administrative
list functions to modify the distribution every quarter as needed.

MUA's weren't really designed for such tasks, list agents are.

- -dwild
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iD8DBQE6bepRmFSlcxy4R48RAvtuAJ9m8/vHBeyqSVSWVu2ZEz6X6+8/5QCdE+8+
aIFIWvf4x8RmZh2BxRmja7I=
=lHLo
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA08595;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA02300;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA20076;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:40:26 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA107270
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:39:23 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA31283;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:39:22 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111139.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.38])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07319;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:35:12 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0NLelX01519;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:40:47 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:40:47 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote:

>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:51:25 -0800 (PST)
>From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
>
>If the suggestion to use the (T)ake command didn't work, or you're having
>other problems with getting the addresses into an address book entry (and
>then into the Lcc: field), I'll be happy to answer any additional
>questions you have on this subject. I'm sorry so many people jumped to
>unfounded conclusions regarding your motives, but I can understand their
>paranoia as an unfortunate consequence of the prevelance of Spam.
>
>Let me know if you need any further help on this issue.

Since he's now confirmed that his request was honorable, and my
assumptions were in fact wrong.. an idea hit me: Why not turn
the tables, and use SPAM tools for holistic purposes?

Download some SPAM software for Linux, and use it for non-spam
purposes. ;o) In other words, use SPAM software to send your
legit email to 600 people. Just audit the code first to make
sure the software doesn't 'share' your mail list with other spam
people. ;o)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fun thing to do as root, in the root directory:
chmod -R 666 *
Just as bad as rm -rf *, but more fun.
"The files are all there, but I can't do anything with them!"
And you can't change permissions, since chmod isn't executable either. :-)

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:43:35 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA17783;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:43:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA25926;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:43:33 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA23578;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:52 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA76412
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:04 -0800
Received: from gnosis.tc.fluke.com (gnosis.tc.fluke.com [129.196.128.63])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA25031
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:04 -0800
Received: from evtvir02.tc.fluke.com (evtvir02.tc.fluke.com [129.196.184.22])
by gnosis.tc.fluke.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA10217
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:01 -0800
Received: FROM dd.tc.fluke.com BY evtvir02.tc.fluke.com ; Tue Jan 23 13:36:13 2001 -0800
Received: from localhost (dcd@localhost) by dd.tc.fluke.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA30529; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:02 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:02 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: David Dyck <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: the man page for pine vs. other pine documentation
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Song Han <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: dd.tc.fluke.com: dcd owned process doing -bs
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:

> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:26:56 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
....
> I have checked the man page of pine, but it does not say how to
> send an e-mail to a group (hiding the addresses).

I think that there is something that could be improved here, as the man
page ( nroff -man pine.1 ) for pine is only 396 lines. The man page
does mention the on-line, context-sensitive help, but the internal file
pine.hlp is 20966 lines (of which only 10890 are unique, but that is
still quite a read.)

Has anyone created any tools to take pine.hlp and generate a tree of
html files that could be passed to a search tool? What about taking
the pine.hlp text and creating a large 'flat' file with index that

The man page doesn't mention the Pine FAQ at
http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/index.html
no does it mention the users guide.
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/user-guide.txt
or the getting started file(s)
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/Getting_Started.ps
(the user-guide and getting_Started files seem to be a few years old
though)

At least the getting started file does discuss distribution lists,
but it doesn't mention the Bcc or Lcc commands.

I guess I learned most of pine by experimenting with the commands and
reading the online help, which is the way that getting started also
suggests that one learn more about pine.

Perhaps those that learn by reading instead of experimenting and exploring
with the program would be better served by a more prominent mention of
the Pine Information Center's web page at
http://www.washington.edu/pine
earlier in the man page.

What do you think?

David

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:51:30 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA14762;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:51:28 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA06997;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:51:27 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA30984;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:51:04 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA104210
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:42:29 -0800
Received: from ux5.isu.edu (ux5-250.isu.edu [134.50.250.6])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA21388
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:42:28 -0800
Received: from isu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by ux5.isu.edu (Netscape
Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7N36R00.HX0 for
<[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:42:27 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:42:27 -0700
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: SMTP Authentication
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Language: en
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Accept-Language: en
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Howdy-
My university recently started requiring SMTP authentication. Does
pine 4.05 (Unix) support this? I tried changing my .pinerc file by
adding my username to the end of my smtp-server line (smtp-server =
smtp.example/user=user.name.here) but evidently that value is a sys-
admin defined value. At this point I am just wondering if it is
possible and how it can be done. I can talk to my sysadmin later if he
needs to do something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Jerad

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:58:01 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA25913;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:58:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA07233;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:57:59 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA04408;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:57:36 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA58682
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:55:52 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA26796;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:55:50 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:55:50 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

There are two types of SMTP authentication that I know of. The first,
which you're trying to enable, is regular password authentication. The
second is POP-before-SMTP (or something like that), and requires you to
first access your INBOX with POP3 before sending something with SMTP.

If the method your school uses is the first, then what you're trying to do
should work when your sysadmin allows you to modify your SMTP server. But
rather than just asking the sysadmin to let you change the value, I'd tell
him what you're trying to do (enable SMTP authentication). He might know
how best to do that for your SMTP server.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [email protected] wrote:

> Howdy-
> My university recently started requiring SMTP authentication. Does
> pine 4.05 (Unix) support this? I tried changing my .pinerc file by
> adding my username to the end of my smtp-server line (smtp-server =
> smtp.example/user=user.name.here) but evidently that value is a sys-
> admin defined value. At this point I am just wondering if it is
> possible and how it can be done. I can talk to my sysadmin later if he
> needs to do something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
> Jerad
>
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:37:09 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA07103;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA32147;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:37:07 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA34848;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:36:08 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA126488
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:22:32 -0800
Received: from ux5.isu.edu (ux5-250.isu.edu [134.50.250.6])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA15467;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:22:02 -0800
Received: from isu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by ux5.isu.edu (Netscape
Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7N50O00.MYZ; Tue, 23 Jan
2001 17:22:00 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:22:00 -0700
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Language: en
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Accept-Language: en
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Thanks for the info - I would just ask my admin how to do it , but he
has no clue right now. The authentication (which is that password
authentication, not the POP thing) was just implemented yesterday and
the Pine issue caught the computer center by suprise. Not many people
use it any more, so the computer center does not support it. Since I am
one of the most vocal computer center student-staff Pine users, I have
been asked to check into the possibility of just resloving the problem
instead of upgrading to a newer version of pine.

So it sounds like you are telling me that it is possible using Pine
4.05, but that I need to have the permissions changed so that I can
edit my smtp-server line in my .pinerc file. Is that correct?
Thanks again!
Jerad
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication

> There are two types of SMTP authentication that I know of. The first,
> which you're trying to enable, is regular password authentication.
> The
> second is POP-before-SMTP (or something like that), and requires
> you to
> first access your INBOX with POP3 before sending something with SMTP.
>
> If the method your school uses is the first, then what you're
> trying to do
> should work when your sysadmin allows you to modify your SMTP
> server. But
> rather than just asking the sysadmin to let you change the value,
> I'd tell
> him what you're trying to do (enable SMTP authentication). He
> might know
> how best to do that for your SMTP server.
>
> --
> Scott Leibrand
> [email protected]
>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Howdy-
> > My university recently started requiring SMTP
> authentication. Does
> > pine 4.05 (Unix) support this? I tried changing my .pinerc file by
> > adding my username to the end of my smtp-server line (smtp-
> server =
> > smtp.example/user=user.name.here) but evidently that value is a
> sys-
> > admin defined value. At this point I am just wondering if it is
> > possible and how it can be done. I can talk to my sysadmin later
> if he
> > needs to do something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
> > Jerad

>

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:44:06 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA15772;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:44:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA09016;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:44:00 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA23108;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:43:31 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA36212
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:32:04 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA17764
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:32:04 -0800
Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0O0W3D14722
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:32:03 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA74652
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:32:03 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:32:03 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

i find it humorous that people are using a discussion mailing list to
bitch how much they hate SPAM. <smiley>

i technically started this discussion (with my .sig), so do i get to stop it?

crazy germans think they can vote spam away:
http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/en/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:05:14 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA18129;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:05:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA02544;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:05:12 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA17198;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:04:42 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA17214
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:02:29 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA29944;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:02:28 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:02:27 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

First of all, upgrading is not difficult at all. You just get and compile
the new version and put the binary somewhere where everyone can access it.
Once you're sure the new version works, you replace the old binary with
the new one.

I don't really know if SMTP authentication was possible in 4.05. It's
been quite a while since I used that version, and I never had to do SMTP
auth.

Regardless of which version of Pine you use, you'll need to reconfigure
the system-wide configuration files to either allow users to change their
SMTP server or have the correct SMTP server for SMTP auth. From what
you've described, it sounds like your system's pine.conf.fixed has the
SMTP server set, and therefore you can't change it. The easiest fix is to
remove the SMTP server variable from pine.conf.fixed and put it it
pine.conf instead. This will let users like you, who need to use SMTP
auth, change your SMTP server value to the correct one for SMTP auth. The
ideal solution, if you can get it to work, would be to set a value for
SMTP server in pine.conf or pine.conf.fixed that includes a user variable,
such as "smtp.server.edu/user=$username". I'm not sure if that'll work,
though, or what variable you'd need to use.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [email protected] wrote:

> Thanks for the info - I would just ask my admin how to do it , but he
> has no clue right now. The authentication (which is that password
> authentication, not the POP thing) was just implemented yesterday and
> the Pine issue caught the computer center by suprise. Not many people
> use it any more, so the computer center does not support it. Since I am
> one of the most vocal computer center student-staff Pine users, I have
> been asked to check into the possibility of just resloving the problem
> instead of upgrading to a newer version of pine.
>
> So it sounds like you are telling me that it is possible using Pine
> 4.05, but that I need to have the permissions changed so that I can
> edit my smtp-server line in my .pinerc file. Is that correct?
> Thanks again!
> Jerad
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:55 pm
> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication
>
> > There are two types of SMTP authentication that I know of. The first,
> > which you're trying to enable, is regular password authentication.
> > The
> > second is POP-before-SMTP (or something like that), and requires
> > you to
> > first access your INBOX with POP3 before sending something with SMTP.
> >
> > If the method your school uses is the first, then what you're
> > trying to do
> > should work when your sysadmin allows you to modify your SMTP
> > server. But
> > rather than just asking the sysadmin to let you change the value,
> > I'd tell
> > him what you're trying to do (enable SMTP authentication). He
> > might know
> > how best to do that for your SMTP server.
> >
> > --
> > Scott Leibrand
> > [email protected]
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy-
> > > My university recently started requiring SMTP
> > authentication. Does
> > > pine 4.05 (Unix) support this? I tried changing my .pinerc file by
> > > adding my username to the end of my smtp-server line (smtp-
> > server =
> > > smtp.example/user=user.name.here) but evidently that value is a
> > sys-
> > > admin defined value. At this point I am just wondering if it is
> > > possible and how it can be done. I can talk to my sysadmin later
> > if he
> > > needs to do something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
> > > Jerad
>
> >
>
>

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:42:39 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA06650;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:42:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA17841;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:42:36 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA31282;
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:42:18 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA144448
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:40:37 -0800
Received: from ias.ernet.in (prakash@[202.41.122.11])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA02691
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:40:31 -0800
Received: (from prakash@localhost)
by ias.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10538;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:35:12 +0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:35:10 +0500 (GMT+0500)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "N.A. Prakash" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Here is a novice's small script to send email to multiple recipients as
separate, individualized messages. (You did mention already having the
list of recipients as a text file with one address to a line.) But this
one uses the mail program on Unix systems, not Pine. Dont know if it
helps. To reduce load on the mail server, maybe you can send the mail in
batches of say 25 or 50, with a gap of say 15 minutes between batches.

prakash
N. A. Prakash, Indian Academy of Sciences, Bangalore

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Song Han wrote:
> an international conference. I need to send e-mails to 600 people
> who submitted papers, telling them several decisions: deadlines,
> accept/decline, final photo-ready versions, etc.

-------------Script start----------
#! /bin/sh
#Script multimailer, for sending a message to multiple recipients
#Prakash, 10 December 1997
#Tell user what it does, if new to it or if parameters not supplied correctly
if [ ! $# = 3 ]
then
echo
echo "OOPS, wrong syntax!!!"
echo
echo "This shell script lets you send a message to multiple recipients."
echo "Each recipient will see only his/her name as recipient."
echo "It is useful when you have a list of many addresses, and want to"
echo "avoid repeating the operation or letting a recipient see many names."
echo "To use it, you should have, in the directory where you run this,"
echo "(i) an ascii file with all the valid addresses, EACH ON A LINE BY"
echo "ITSELF, (ii) an ascii file containing your message."
echo
echo "USAGE: multimailer param1 param2 param3"
echo
echo "Here param1 is the name of the file that contains the recipients' "
echo "addresses; param2 is what you wish to have in the Subject field for "
echo "your message - PLACE THIS WITHIN DOUBLE QUOTES; param3 is the file "
echo "that contains the mail message. Separate the params with a space."
echo
echo "This script uses mailx, not pine. So your message will not be in"
echo "the sent-mail folder in pine. However, the script will create a"
echo "log file with the date of sending, the message, and the list of"
echo "addressees in your home directory for record."
echo
exit
fi
#The action
for i in `cat $1`
do
echo "mailing $i"
echo
echo "If you wish to abort, type Control-C within 5 seconds."
echo "Any mails completed before abort operation WILL be sent!"
echo
sleep 5
mailx -s "$2" $i < $3
done
#Log the action
logfile=~/multimail.`date +%d%h%Y,%R`
now=`date +%d%h%Y,%R`
echo "Sent following msg under Subject "$2" on $now " > $logfile
echo >> $logfile
echo `cat $3` >> $logfile
echo >> $logfile
echo `cat $1` >> $logfile
exit
#Finis
------------Script end---------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:51:51 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA32758;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:51:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA26951;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:51:49 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA19072;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:51:30 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA126036
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:49:52 -0800
Received: from nt-server (209-122-217-34.s34.tnt1.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.217.34])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA09057
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:49:39 -0800
Received: from [192.168.200.9] by nt-server
(ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.5 (1.5.0.8)); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:47:28 -0500
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101240945190.1104-100000@nt-server>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:47:24 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Marc DVer <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Disabling Welcome Message after Update
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: mdver@nt_server
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I am trying to implement PC-Pine on my LAN. One thing that will not be
tolerated is the welcome message displayed when using a particular version
for the first time. How do I disable this? I don't want to have to run
through each's users account every time I update Pine.
Sincerely,
Marc DVer

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:52:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA01398;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:52:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA28342;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:52:10 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA31196;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:51:49 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA34712
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:50:54 -0800
Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA17289
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:50:53 -0800
Received: from mum.cs.sc.edu (mum.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.144])
by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27284
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:50:52 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost)
by mum.cs.sc.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21194
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:51:22 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:51:22 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Gopi Sundaram <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How do I send a text file to 600 people?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine-info Mailing List <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: mum.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, N.A. Prakash wrote:

> Here is a novice's small script to send email to multiple
> recipients as separate, individualized messages.

That places a massive load on the mail server, and is not scalable.
Having a single message with multiple recipient will move this load
downstream from your own mail server. This is not a problem because
the same load will be moved downstream regardless of whether one uses
multiple-recipient messages or multiple messages. It simply eliminates
the load on your mail server.

--
Gopi Sundaram
[email protected]
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:53:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA04693;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:53:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA30428;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:53:48 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA29952;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:53:25 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA80594
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:52:37 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA29438
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:52:37 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id IAA22443
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:51:55 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101241643210.-412879@no>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:52:56 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On 12 Jan 2001, Terry Gray ([email protected]) wrote:
> One wacky workaround that, while inelegant, avoids having to restart pine
> and re-enter password:
>
> set inbox-path to a dummy local file
> add the real POP ISP to incoming folders list
> when Pine starts, from the (empty) dummy inbox, tab to the "real" inbox
> To check for new mail: Goto <RETURN>, then TAB again to re-open actual
> POP inbox

Hey, I like this wacky workaround! You can also do this with a
newsgroup that you read regularly, e.g.:

{news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine,

Since newsgroups are like POP inboxes in that you need to reopen
them to find out if there are any new msgs.

Thanks Teg!
^X,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=-- Sent via PINE 4.31: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --=

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:01:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA03329;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:01:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA30730;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:01:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA24150;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:01:35 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA80584
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:00:58 -0800
Received: from isr5429.urh.uiuc.edu ([email protected] [130.126.209.169])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA10766
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:00:58 -0800
Received: (qmail 17676 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Jan 2001 17:00:57 -0000
Received: from localhost ([email protected])
by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2001 17:00:57 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0101241059360.17614-100000@palanthas.neverending.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:00:57 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Frank Tobin <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: the man page for pine vs. other pine documentation
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: David Dyck <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

David Dyck, at 13:42 -0800 on Tue, 23 Jan 2001, wrote:

I think that there is something that could be improved here, as the man
page ( nroff -man pine.1 ) for pine is only 396 lines. The man page
does mention the on-line, context-sensitive help, but the internal file
pine.hlp is 20966 lines (of which only 10890 are unique, but that is
still quite a read.)

The proper way to handle this would be to not put the information into a
manpage, which is too flat for the purposes needed, but rather to use
info(1) pages, which are hyperlinked, and better for lots of documentation
on things such as how to use CVS, etc.

--
Frank Tobin http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:16:34 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA09810;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:16:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA00973;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:16:31 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA31068;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:14:46 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA144506
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:11:33 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA13594
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:11:30 -0800
Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0OIBQD77518
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:11:26 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA112736
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:11:26 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:11:26 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in
POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101241643210.-412879@no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

this all should be added to the inadequate FAQ:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#5.5

also an FAQ for the "newsgroup wacky workaround" as nancy calls it.

aaron

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Nancy McGough wrote:

> On 12 Jan 2001, Terry Gray ([email protected]) wrote:
> > One wacky workaround that, while inelegant, avoids having to restart pine
> > and re-enter password:
> >
> > set inbox-path to a dummy local file
> > add the real POP ISP to incoming folders list
> > when Pine starts, from the (empty) dummy inbox, tab to the "real" inbox
> > To check for new mail: Goto <RETURN>, then TAB again to re-open actual
> > POP inbox
>
> Hey, I like this wacky workaround! You can also do this with a
> newsgroup that you read regularly, e.g.:
>
> {news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine,
>
> Since newsgroups are like POP inboxes in that you need to reopen
> them to find out if there are any new msgs.
>
> Thanks Teg!
> ^X,
> Nancy

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:39:28 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA10214;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:39:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA01854;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:39:26 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA16174;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:39:00 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA68036
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:37:55 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA20165
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:37:54 -0800
Received: (qmail 18629 invoked by uid 1828); 24 Jan 2001 18:37:54 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:37:54 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Can I make pine not wrap around search?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

In most programs when I search I do want wrap around search, but I realized
that often in pine I just want to search (with 'w') in the messages
higher numbered than the one I'm currently on.

Or even if it only searched in new messages optionally that would
probably suit my needs.. (An example is when searching for build release
notices, I don't want to wait for it to go back and search the zillion
messages I already have, at least not most of the time..)

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:20:44 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA07922;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:20:43 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA28338;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:20:43 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA27104;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:20:15 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA122276
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:18:44 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA14772
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:18:44 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA203208;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:18:41 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101241208510.266159-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:18:39 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in
POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101241643210.-412879@no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Nance McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) Hey, I like this wacky workaround! You can also do this with a
:) newsgroup that you read regularly, e.g.:
:)
:) {news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine,
:)
:) Since newsgroups are like POP inboxes in that you need to reopen
:) them to find out if there are any new msgs.

All of these are very old workarounds, why so much excitement about them?
Also, I see no reason to put a newsgroup as an incoming folder other than
pushing tab to go to it, why would someone want to do this other than this
reason?. Maybe someone can explain to me what the advantage of this is.

Sorry, my mind is too logical to understand this excitement.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:54:07 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA10056;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:54:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA06542;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:54:04 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA17360;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:53:25 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA29578
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:51:41 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA22108
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:51:40 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id MAA01942
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:51:17 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101242045550.-348003@no>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:52:12 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in
POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On 24 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
> *** Nance McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
> :) Hey, I like this wacky workaround! You can also do this with a
> :) newsgroup that you read regularly, e.g.:
> :)
> :) {news.server/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine,
> :)
> :) Since newsgroups are like POP inboxes in that you need to reopen
> :) them to find out if there are any new msgs.
>
> All of these are very old workarounds, why so much excitement about them?
> Also, I see no reason to put a newsgroup as an incoming folder other than
> pushing tab to go to it, why would someone want to do this other than this
> reason?. Maybe someone can explain to me what the advantage of this is.
>
> Sorry, my mind is too logical to understand this excitement.

The excitement for me is that I can now open a frequently
accessed POP or newsgroup folder using only 3 keystrokes namely:

G
CR (carriage return)
TAB

The trick, which Terry described, is making your default inbox
local and bogus (i.e., not receiving any new messages) so that
the first two keystrokes

G
CR

do not take any time at all. Do you, Eduardo, have a POP INBOX
that receives a lot of messages that you check regularly
throughout the day? My guess is that you don't because otherwise
I think you'd appreciate this.

^X,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=-- Sent via PINE 4.32: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --=

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:12:36 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA16316;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:12:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA32031;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:12:35 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA08958;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:12:04 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA67378
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:10:40 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA06846
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:10:39 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA257832;
Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:10:30 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101241406030.266159-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:10:30 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in
POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101242045550.-348003@no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Nance McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) do not take any time at all. Do you, Eduardo, have a POP INBOX
:) that receives a lot of messages that you check regularly
:) throughout the day? My guess is that you don't because otherwise
:) I think you'd appreciate this.

No I do not have a pop3 inbox, but if I had one I would have applied this
trick a long time ago. I think the trick is too old to be excited about
it.

I also access my newsgroups pressing "G CR", TAB is too slow and you
never know where you'll stop if you press it blindly (as most Pine users
do). The "G CR" combination (plus a few ^N if necessary) is the fastest I
think, regardless from where you have your newsgroup.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:31:53 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA06949;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:31:51 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA14323;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:31:51 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA28850;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:31:32 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA57344
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:28:51 -0800
Received: from MIT.EDU (SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.72.1.2])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA04230
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:28:50 -0800
Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP
id AA07955; Thu, 25 Jan 01 03:27:27 EST
Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45])
by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA05899;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:28:45 -0500 (EST)
Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73])
by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA13881;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:28:45 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP
id DAA20333; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:28:44 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:28:43 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Disabling Welcome Message after Update
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101240945190.1104-100000@nt-server>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Marc DVer <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Marc DVer wrote:
> I am trying to implement PC-Pine on my LAN. One thing that will not be
> tolerated is the welcome message displayed when using a particular version
> for the first time. How do I disable this? I don't want to have to run
> through each's users account every time I update Pine.

Near line 590, pine/pine.c checks to see if the user is a first time
user or is using a new version, and calls new_user_or_version() if
the check says to do so. You could modify either the check or the
called funcion, and recompile pine. (I don't think there is any way
to do what you want without recompiling.)

Jacob Morzinski [email protected]

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:17:09 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA00018;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:17:07 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA24650;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:17:07 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA33102;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:11:52 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA153530
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:10:47 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA04267
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:10:47 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id BAA08880
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:10:07 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101250835340.-343593@no>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:11:39 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in
POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On 24 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa ([email protected]) wrote:
> *** Nancy McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:
> :) do not take any time at all. Do you, Eduardo, have a POP INBOX
> :) that receives a lot of messages that you check regularly
> :) throughout the day? My guess is that you don't because otherwise
> :) I think you'd appreciate this.
>
> No I do not have a pop3 inbox, but if I had one I would have applied this
> trick a long time ago. I think the trick is too old to be excited about
> it.

Maybe it is old to you but I had never heard of this trick before
Terry posted it and I've been reading comp.mail.pine and
pine-info for years, and also regularly searching the Internet
for "pine" to find pages that I can link to on my Infinite Ink
Pine web pages. The trick is not putting the POP3 or NNTP mailbox
in your incoming-folders list, it is putting it *second* in the
list and having the first one be a dummy local folder. If your
primary incoming folder is a POP mailbox, this trick (to me at
least) saves a tremendous amount of time throughout the day. What
I think most people do (before they hear about this trick) is
list their primary incoming folder first and then, if it is POP,
when they want to check it for new mail they need to go to
another folder (which takes time and keystrokes to get to and
then time to open) and then come back (which takes more time and
keystrokes).

> I also access my newsgroups pressing "G CR", TAB is too slow and you
> never know where you'll stop if you press it blindly (as most Pine users
> do).

If you leave at least one message in a POP or NNTP mailbox you
will always stop at that box. This is a trick I use to ensure
that pressing TAB stops at key places in my incoming-folder list.

> The "G CR" combination (plus a few ^N if necessary) is the fastest I
> think, regardless from where you have your newsgroup.

Yes I also often use

G
^P (because my primary news collection is listed last)
news.group.name
CR

to go to a newsgroup. But for newsgroups that I read every day
(and these are on multiple news servers) I like to be able to
step through them -- along with all my mailing list folders -- by
just TABbing through my incoming folder list. FYI, many of my
mailing lists are delivered to my POP inbox and when I open it,
Pine filters all those messages into their appropriate
IMAP-accessible folders.

^X,
Nancy

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=-- Sent via PINE 4.32: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --=

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:10:56 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id CAA12484;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:10:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA25571;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:10:54 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA21548;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:10:24 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA67866
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:09:27 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA10000
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:09:27 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA305847;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:09:25 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101250130160.278769-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:09:24 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup wacky workaround (Was: New mail not detected in
POP3)mailbox
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101250835340.-343593@no>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Nance McGough ([email protected]) wrote in the...:

:) If your primary incoming folder is a POP mailbox, this trick (to me
:) at least) saves a tremendous amount of time throughout the day.

That explains your excitement. Me too, I always try to look for ways to
save myself time. That was the motivation of almost all the patches that I
have written and now my pine is very efficient and don't have to use too
long in doing time consuming operations (the most typical is saving from
inbox to specific saving folders, I have it set to be an automatic process
based on predefined rules, this is a long process otherwise). Now I think
I understand your excitement.

I also think that your excitement denotes the fact that Pine is not a
great POP3 client, meaning that it was designed to work as a great IMAP
client, but still has lots of room for improvement in the POP3 side. Maybe
someone more knowledgeable can tell us what are the plans for Pine in this
respect.

:) > I also access my newsgroups pressing "G CR", TAB is too slow and you
:) > never know where you'll stop if you press it blindly (as most Pine users
:) > do).
:)
:) If you leave at least one message in a POP or NNTP mailbox you
:) will always stop at that box. This is a trick I use to ensure
:) that pressing TAB stops at key places in my incoming-folder list.

Oh!, that's quite interesting. Since I am an IMAP user I strive for the
opposite, do not leave new messages in incoming folders, because I want
TAB to continue to the folder I want to go to (yes, I know to which folder
I want to go to, because of another patch). Pressing TAB is usually not a
good friend, but pressing "G fol[TAB]der CR" is the way to go much of the
time.

Have a good day!

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:19:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id CAA07030;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:19:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA16199;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:19:47 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA24676;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:19:31 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA68016
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:18:49 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA14674
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:18:48 -0800
Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA267070;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:18:47 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101250213161.278769-100000@goedel3.math.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:18:47 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Can I make pine not wrap around search?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Matt Ackeret ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list on Jan 24, 2001:

:) Or even if it only searched in new messages optionally that would
:) probably suit my needs.. (An example is when searching for build release
:) notices, I don't want to wait for it to go back and search the zillion
:) messages I already have, at least not most of the time..)

Yes you can search in only new messages, first press "; S N", that should
select only the "New" messages (this means Recent and Unseen messages),
then you can press "; N T", this will enable you to search for text among
the new messages you already selected. After that follow the instrcutions
in the menu in the bottom and that should help you do what you want, or at
least get a good approximation to it.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:51:49 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA05682;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:51:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA21533;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:51:48 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA28878;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:51:28 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA62580
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:50:21 -0800
Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA28361
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:50:20 -0800
Received: from mum.cs.sc.edu (mum.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.144])
by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA38121
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:50:19 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost)
by mum.cs.sc.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06212
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:50:47 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:50:46 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Gopi Sundaram <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Disabling Welcome Message after Update
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine-info Mailing List <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: mum.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

> You could modify either the check or the called funcion, and
> recompile pine. (I don't think there is any way to do what you
> want without recompiling.)

Umm, how about looking into these config options:

last-version-used=
new-version-threshold=

They're in the pinerc file. I wonder if they could go in pine.conf or
something. Setting atleast the latter one to a ridiculously high value
might be a way. Of course, I haven't tried this, so perhaps the OP
could before s/he recompiles Pine (sorry, lost the original message).

--
Gopi Sundaram
[email protected]
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:27:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA05128;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:27:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA22366;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:27:48 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA19668;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:27:23 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA68328
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:26:24 -0800
Received: from nt-server (216-164-200-14.s268.tnt4.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.200.14])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA04531
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:26:21 -0800
Received: from [192.168.200.9] by nt-server
(ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.5 (1.5.0.8)); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:25 -0500
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101251023270.1086-100000@nt-server>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:25 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Marc DVer <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Disabling Welcome Message after Update
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: mdver@nt_server
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

> the check says to do so. You could modify either the check or the
> called funcion, and recompile pine. (I don't think there is any way
> to do what you want without recompiling.)
Um, I'm using PC-Pine. As I understand, the source isn't available for
the current version. At least I thought I saw something like that on teh
website. Am I wrong?

Marc DVer

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:03:30 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA23579;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:03:28 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA12124;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:03:28 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA20362;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:03:07 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA72734
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:43 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA23739
for <[email protected]>; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:43 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA331283;
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:41 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101251847460.470216-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:41 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Disabling Welcome Message after Update
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.32.0101240945190.1104-100000@nt-server>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Marc DVer <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Marc DVer ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list on Jan...:

:) I am trying to implement PC-Pine on my LAN. One thing that will not be
:) tolerated is the welcome message displayed when using a particular version
:) for the first time. How do I disable this? I don't want to have to run
:) through each's users account every time I update Pine.

The only way I would think of doing this in PC-Pine would be by calling
pine through a .bat file whose mission is to edit the pinerc of the user
before pine is opened to change the version number to the desired number.
You must change the value of the variable last-version-used=, e.g.
last-version-used=4.30 means that the last version you used was 4.30 and
if you use 4.31 you'll get the message you want to avoid, so before
starting 4.31 I would change (through sed or otherwise 4.30 to 4.31). Try
experimenting changing the value it has today for a bigger value (like
999.99), that will surely make you forget about this problem for quite a
while.

Unfortunately you can not have access to PC-Pine's code, so there's no
much you can do about it, just trying to trick it is your solution, I
think.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:53:05 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA04019;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:53:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA08916;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:53:04 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA29892;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:52:26 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA94776
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:49:27 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA21660
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:49:27 -0800
Received: (qmail 27058 invoked by uid 1828); 26 Jan 2001 23:49:26 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:49:26 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I'm trying to set up my machine here at work so I can use it when not
logged in via NetInfo (whose name happens to be the same as my mail account's
name)..

I'm logging in as "owner".. so it's putting my return address as
[email protected], which does not exist..

How do I tell it I am really [email protected] even when logged in as owner?
I see nothing obvious in the setup/config.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:50:52 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id QAA05879;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:50:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA20588;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:50:50 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA29966;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:50:33 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA151314
for <[email protected]>; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:49:31 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA06866;
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:49:29 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:49:29 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> I'm logging in as "owner".. so it's putting my return address as
> [email protected], which does not exist..
>
> How do I tell it I am really [email protected] even when logged in as owner?
> I see nothing obvious in the setup/config.

Come on... You of all people should know that this is the most FAQ on
comp.mail.pine (and maybe this mailing list, as well). Check out the FAQ
at the UW, or read Nancy's page on the subject at
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:44:28 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA07217;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:44:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA27329;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:44:27 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA20562;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:42:42 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA41722
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:39:41 -0800
Received: from ux13.cso.uiuc.edu ([email protected] [128.174.5.25])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA20045;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:39:40 -0800
Received: from localhost (ftobin@localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ux13.cso.uiuc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0RGdcm28614;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:39:39 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:39:38 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Frank Tobin <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Scott Leibrand, at 16:49 -0800 on Fri, 26 Jan 2001, wrote:

Come on... You of all people should know that this is the most
FAQ on comp.mail.pine (and maybe this mailing list, as well).
Check out the FAQ at the UW, or read Nancy's page on the subject
at http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/

It's a FAQ because the Pine development team ridiculously thought it would
be useful to restrict users from being able to easily change the user-id
part of the From. If it was possible to do this from the on-line Pine
configuration, such as you can do in the PC-Pine version, it wouldn't be a
FAQ.

--
Frank Tobin http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:34:45 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA07953;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:34:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA07216;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:34:43 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA29666;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:34:19 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA94848
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:32:48 -0800
Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:[email protected] [207.109.151.240])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA06300
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:32:47 -0800
Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111159.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.58])
by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04978;
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:27:28 -0700
Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost)
by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0S5WYG01243;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:32:34 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:32:33 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Frank Tobin <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Frank Tobin wrote:

> Come on... You of all people should know that this is the most
> FAQ on comp.mail.pine (and maybe this mailing list, as well).
> Check out the FAQ at the UW, or read Nancy's page on the subject
> at http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/
>
>It's a FAQ because the Pine development team ridiculously thought it would
>be useful to restrict users from being able to easily change the user-id
>part of the From. If it was possible to do this from the on-line Pine
>configuration, such as you can do in the PC-Pine version, it wouldn't be a
>FAQ.

I agree completely. Also, there seems to be some assumption out
there that people have that just because someone is an engineer,
or works for some big .com company that they automatically are a
super genius knowing all about all programs in /bin, /sbin,
/usr/bin, /usr/sbin, etc.. and god forbid if they do not, and
cannot easily find an answer.

The reality of the situation is that being an expert in a
particular field or endeavor in no way makes one a know-it-all
in that field. Nor does it mean that such a person, being so
skilled is 'Data' from Star Trek. Everyone has areas where they
specialize, and areas where they do not give a shit to know
everything. One can be an expert in one thing, and a newbie in
another.

Just because someone works at apple.com, or anywhere else should
not indicate that the person is an expert in solving every known
problem on their own relating to computers and technology. These
mailing lists exist for the purpose of someone finding answers to
problems.

I agree with you 100% Frank. A lot of software FAQ's exist
because a program does not do what users expect it to do. An
"FAQ" is a hint to software engineers to design the software in
such a way that no FAQ is required. This is an ideal situation
however, which is likely not 100% unachievable in reality. This
particular issue however I feel is definitely solveable. I
personally have helped no less than 50 people in the last couple
years to set up "From:" in PINE. In 3.xy it meant recompiling
PINE after editing a #define in an osdep file. Now it doesn't
require a rebuild, but it does not jump out at joe user who just
wants to type their damned email address into the program like
_every_ other MUA lets one do.

Come to think of it, does anyone have a patch available that
implements this functionality in PINE?

It would be nice to see at the very top of the Setup screen
"Your email address:"

And have it so that everything in PINE defaults to the current
behaviour so old timers and sysadmins are happy, but that joe
user can merrily type in his address. For sysadmins that do not
WANT joe user to do this, they can set a global config option of
some kind in pine.conf or pine.conf.fixed which disables user
editing of email addresses.

Any takers?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate
This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou write thy holy
code. Indenting shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.
Three shalt be the spaces thou shalt count, and the number of the
counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor count
thou two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Eight is
right out. Once the number three, being the third number be
reached, shalt thou move towards indenting thy next line ..

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:01:33 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA17300;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:01:31 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA19777;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:01:31 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA21910;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:01:06 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA101494
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:59:39 -0800
Received: from shell13.ba.best.com ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA14380
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:59:38 -0800
Received: from localhost ([email protected] [206.184.139.144])
by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id XAA14322
for <[email protected]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:59:08 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.32.9.0101280756350.-362643@no>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:01:32 +0000 (GMT)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: ii@no
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Me too! I sent the following suggestion to the pine alpha testing
mailing list in October:

> From: Nancy McGough <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.29.99999.0010231734390.-133207@no>
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:07:33 +0100 (BST)
> To: Pine Pre-Release List
> Subject: The Most FAQ: Changing From
>
> Since the most frequently asked Pine question is "How do I change
> my From header?", it seems clear that something needs to be
> changed in Pine's user interface to make it easier for people to
> figure out if this is allowed on their system and, if it is, how
> to do it.
>
> My suggestion is that you add user-id to the list of variables
> that appear at the top of the Unix Pine Config screen so it looks
> like this:
>
> personal-name = Nancy McGough
> user-id = nancym
> user-domain = ii.com
>
>
> Or if the user-id were fixed, it would look like this:
>
> personal-name = Nancy McGough
> user-id = <VALUE is Fixed: using "nancym">
> user-domain = ii.com
>
>
> And then in the Help screens about user-id and user-domain, give
> links to these:
>
> roles
> expose-hidden-config
> allow-changing-from
> info about the Reply-To header
> info about the Sender, X-Sender, and X-X-Sender headers
> anything else that is related to changing your From header!
>
> This way Unix Pine and PC-Pine will be even more consistent than
> they already are (since PC-Pine already has the user-id variable)
> and, best of all, we will probably stop seeing so many "How do I
> change my From header?" questions in comp.mail.pine and
> pine-info!
>
> Thank you,
> Nancy
>
> PS - I still think that allow-changing-from should not be a
> hidden feature (I suggested this a long time ago).
>
>
> --
> For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/
>
> Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
> = Sent via PINE 4.29.99999: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =

^X,
Nancy no-one-ever-listens-to-me McGough

--
For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
=- Sent via PINE 4.32.9: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix -=

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:11:22 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA09601;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:11:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA20870;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:11:20 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA31222;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:10:59 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA45044
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:09:46 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA51738
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:09:45 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:09:45 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> > Come on... You of all people should know that this is the most
> > FAQ on comp.mail.pine (and maybe this mailing list, as well).
>
> Also, there seems to be some assumption out there that people have
> that just because someone is an engineer, or works for some big .com
> company that they automatically are a super genius knowing all about
> all programs in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, etc.. and god forbid
> if they do not, and cannot easily find an answer.
>
> The reality of the situation is that being an expert in a particular
> field or endeavor in no way makes one a know-it-all in that field.
> Nor does it mean that such a person, being so skilled is 'Data' from
> Star Trek. Everyone has areas where they specialize, and areas where
> they do not give a shit to know everything. One can be an expert in
> one thing, and a newbie in another.
>
> Just because someone works at apple.com, or anywhere else should not
> indicate that the person is an expert in solving every known problem
> on their own relating to computers and technology. These mailing
> lists exist for the purpose of someone finding answers to problems.

My apologies to Matt for making it sound like I though he was an idiot.
Apparently that's how it came across, although that's not what I intended.
The basis for my comment was that I've seen Matt's posts on the Pine
mailing list and/or comp.mail.pine for quite a while, so I thought he
would have come across this FAQ by now. But I agree with everything Mike
said above - that's why I contribute to pine-info and comp.mail.pine. And
I try (but obviously don't always succeed) in doing so without insulting
anyone.

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:01:31 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA25121;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:01:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA15917;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:01:29 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA21766;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:01:09 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA108900
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:57:27 -0800
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA08654
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:57:25 -0800
Received: from students.aurora.edu (mail.aurora.edu [64.107.89.49])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA26213
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:57:25 -0800
Received: from localhost (slowe@localhost)
by students.aurora.edu (8.11.1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0SDunI15229
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:56:49 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:56:49 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve Lowe <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Configuration - 2 Systems - Keeping INBOXes Separate
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Information List <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I am trying to configure Unix Pine 4.31 on my normal SMTP server to access
my INBOX file on another mail system (office versus personal mail).

I have no problems accessing my remote folder collection on the second
system. I just cannot get to that remote system INBOX file.

Does the inbox-path parameter support multiple servers?

Thanks in advance.

-- Steve Lowe
Aurora University

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:35:23 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA28783;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:35:22 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA17265;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:35:22 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA26816;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:35:01 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA27586
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:33:49 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA15121
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:33:49 -0800
Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0SFXmD100708
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:33:48 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA130424
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:33:48 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:33:48 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Configuration - 2 Systems - Keeping INBOXes Separate
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

information on listing multiple inboxes is in the pop inbox section of
nancy's setting up pine for power users.

http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#pop

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Steve Lowe wrote:

>
> I am trying to configure Unix Pine 4.31 on my normal SMTP server to access
> my INBOX file on another mail system (office versus personal mail).
>
> I have no problems accessing my remote folder collection on the second
> system. I just cannot get to that remote system INBOX file.
>
> Does the inbox-path parameter support multiple servers?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -- Steve Lowe
> Aurora University

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:42:03 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA24789;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:42:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA27862;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:42:01 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA25440;
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:41:44 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA58756
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:40:54 -0800
Received: from kanalen.org (IDENT:[email protected] [195.54.133.59])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA02067
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:40:53 -0800
Received: from localhost (jesper@localhost)
by kanalen.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16783
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:40:41 +0100
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:40:41 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jesper Maartenson <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Pine talking LDAP with Exchange?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-PGPKeyID: 0xDD2C1C5F
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi!

I'm about to configure my Pine to talk LDAP with a MS Exchange-server. Any
pointers before I try?

Mvh,

--
Jesper M�rtenson / [email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:30:47 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA09905;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:30:45 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA01283;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:30:44 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA25764;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:30:04 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA18876
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:25:59 -0800
Received: from jnantz.phx.inficad.com (IDENT:[email protected] [208.220.148.137])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA10688
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:25:58 -0800
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[email protected] [127.0.0.1])
by jnantz.phx.inficad.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA02437
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:30:09 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:30:09 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jim <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Pine and PGP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I have installed PGP 6.5.8 for linux. I keep hearing rumors about being
able to use PGP with Pine. How do I set this up?

Thanks

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:53:41 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA24649;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:53:40 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA12541;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:53:39 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA30072;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:53:15 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA55822
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:51:34 -0800
Received: from argo.starforce.com ([email protected] [216.158.56.82])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA20837
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:51:33 -0800
Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost)
by argo.starforce.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/starforce-r1) with ESMTP id f0T8pbD00728
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:51:37 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:51:25 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine and PGP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Jim wrote:

> I have installed PGP 6.5.8 for linux. I keep hearing rumors about being
> able to use PGP with Pine. How do I set this up?

go to www.freshmeat.net, search for "pgp4pine", use it here it works
great. Beware of the file caching on decrypt tho...it only clears the
cache the next time it is executed for expired entries. For this reason i
put "rm -f ~/.pgp4pine.cache" in my .logout file (tcsh).

- -dwild

- ------------ Output from gpg ------------
gpg: Signature made Mon 29 Jan 2001 03:49:03 AM EST using DSA key ID 1CB8478F
gpg: Good signature from "Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iEYEARECAAYFAjp1LxIACgkQmFSlcxy4R48UKQCdGHhBBAxMZPjTHX4xVAROs9Md
6koAnj5xyfjKMW39jOZdDLHhKpgq9gRT
=6FR1
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:15:59 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA27367;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:15:57 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA27829;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:15:57 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA04452;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:15:13 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA117834
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:11:31 -0800
Received: from jnantz.phx.inficad.com (IDENT:[email protected] [208.220.148.137])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA29328
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:11:29 -0800
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[email protected] [127.0.0.1])
by jnantz.phx.inficad.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00836;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:15:23 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:15:15 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jim <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine and PGP
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Thanks for your help, I was able to get pgp4pine installed, but I have one
question. I checked my mail this morning and I had two copies of your
reply, one from you and one via the list. The one from the list had the
following text, the one from you did not. Both had your signature.

> - ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> gpg: Signature made Mon 29 Jan 2001 03:49:03 AM EST using DSA key ID 1CB8478F
> gpg: Good signature from "Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>"

Why did one have the output from gpg and the other did not? Is this
something I need to change at my end?

Thanks

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:29:34 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA05987;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:29:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA21434;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:29:33 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA28444;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:27:51 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA152034
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:22:56 -0800
Received: from argo.starforce.com ([email protected] [216.158.56.82])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA26889
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:22:55 -0800
Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost)
by argo.starforce.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/starforce-r1) with ESMTP id f0TLMs804186;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:22:54 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:22:48 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine and PGP
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jim <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Jim wrote:

> Thanks for your help, I was able to get pgp4pine installed, but I have one
> question. I checked my mail this morning and I had two copies of your
> reply, one from you and one via the list. The one from the list had the
> following text, the one from you did not. Both had your signature.
>
> > - ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> > gpg: Signature made Mon 29 Jan 2001 03:49:03 AM EST using DSA key ID 1CB8478F
> > gpg: Good signature from "Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>"
>
> Why did one have the output from gpg and the other did not? Is this
> something I need to change at my end?

my bad....i had mis-forwarded to the list with the wrong from: address
(used for procmail sorting), and inadvertantly signed the second message
twice.

-dwild

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:48:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA29159;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:48:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA04920;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:48:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA25388;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:47:50 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA102626
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:44:06 -0800
Received: from jnantz.phx.inficad.com (IDENT:[email protected] [208.220.148.137])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA02537
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:44:05 -0800
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[email protected] [127.0.0.1])
by jnantz.phx.inficad.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA01177;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:48:07 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:47:41 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jim <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine and PGP
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I wonder now if it's something at my end. I checked the headers of both
replies you sent. The one you sent to the list was the second one I got
and it was the one where the signature was checked. The one that came
directly from you had a signature, but it wasn't checked at this end.
Also pgp signed messages I got from other people were not checked either.

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Derek Wildstar wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Jim wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your help, I was able to get pgp4pine installed, but I have one
> > question. I checked my mail this morning and I had two copies of your
> > reply, one from you and one via the list. The one from the list had the
> > following text, the one from you did not. Both had your signature.
> >
> > > - ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> > > gpg: Signature made Mon 29 Jan 2001 03:49:03 AM EST using DSA key ID 1CB8478F
> > > gpg: Good signature from "Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>"
> >
> > Why did one have the output from gpg and the other did not? Is this
> > something I need to change at my end?
>
> my bad....i had mis-forwarded to the list with the wrong from: address
> (used for procmail sorting), and inadvertantly signed the second message
> twice.
>
> -dwild
>
>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP 6.5.8
Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6

iQEVAwUBOnYBNpgsFmDTNlInAQHc1ggAg662S8MPQ41JDiSzLQz5moooSLxNCK7u
oKb2wm7uuVIFV/hkCnuGmcXq/0vSQC5NLNVBmOCqF9Z9CoSTEnjGcnhi7NOgbqXr
VthjCfT9PbiZfRD+6uM1lenhybLwWr9s122qvpdRyTug28UL1fralKtfWRxUNei3
w8KkfOvsE28SluosY7gTuaaQrZweWK5gYavJ4VDcQ1vUqcm10Uzgdo61PnD4LbBD
dn9vR/+kfloYrNLK2WPrqtokYh595bK/YBL0IfaQA9Jv0iBn2Ypq0Athdegb53M9
/1xxX7UuI8hz3ko3YVKWnKJlZQ9tv8CO+tT8+Gz0BWh59IOnX4BZMg==
=csro
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:31:11 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA30005;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:31:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA08050;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:31:09 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA19596;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:29:14 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA48356
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:20:25 -0800
Received: from jnantz.phx.inficad.com (IDENT:[email protected] [208.220.148.137])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA27907
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:20:23 -0800
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[email protected] [127.0.0.1])
by jnantz.phx.inficad.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01404
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:24:36 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:24:36 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jim <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Same here
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I thought of calling this message Me too, but thought better of it.

Jeff Franklin asked a few days ago if anyone else had the same problem
with pine 4.32 ignoring display filters. I also have that problem.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:00:03 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA19394;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:00:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA10011;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:59:59 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA24586;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:58:09 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA70848
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:55:55 -0800
Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA00602
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:55:53 -0800
Received: (qmail 1768 invoked by uid 1828); 30 Jan 2001 02:55:52 -0000
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:55:52 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: A few suggestions, and a comment about the FAQ
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

The prompt is:
Select New, Deleted, Answered, or Important messages ?

Is that *implying* that those are the key equivs for those commands?
Because, important messages are really selected with *

The capital letters sure made me THINK those were the equivs.

Also, it sure would be nice if we could turn on automatic help (i.e. the
menu at the bottom) for SOME prompts. Or maybe it'd be easier if we could
turn it OFF for some prompts, then all others it'd be on.

Like most of the time I don't want the 2 lines wasted.. but for something like
the ; menu and submenus, I've only been using them recently, and if it were
always on, great.

Suggestion: Add a "T" for "To you" in the Status submenu, or the Text submenu..
you can make arguments where it should go (since it's not an IMAP status
thing).. And yes, I realize I can do
;[email protected]

But pine already shows me the helpful little "+", so having another faster
way of doing the same thing is not out of line.

I guess I'll send this next one to the pine FAQ address, but
this section is not the most obvious in the world, even to a big CLI geek
like me:

9.5 How do I change my 'From:' line?

From Pine's [M]AIN MENU, choose [S]etup, then [C]onfig. Move down to
the [17]customized-hdrs option. Press "A Add Value". Use the format:
From: "My Real Name" <[email protected]>

Note: You may wish to add 'From:' to the list of
[18]default-composer-hdrs so you can change the From line more easily
when composing new messages. The process is the same as for adding the
"From:" line to the customized-hdrs entry.

Press Return to accept the change, and "E Exit Setup".

Beginning with Pine 4.30, changing of the "from" value is allowed by
default.

Because, after I add the From: address to my customized-hdrs
entry, now the ONLY header I see when I compose a new message is
an editable From: line.. Not From: added as well as the 4 normal ones.

Now, I guess I can (1) clear out that field, (2) compose a new message,
(3) write a list of what headers it puts in by default, (4) go back to prefs
and add in the From: line AS WELL as the headers I see in #3..

But I just decided to be lazy and wait until the network at work is back up..
(I'm trying to set up my non-network user with all of the prefs I need..)

I hope none of this is considered as whining, I do not mean for it to be
taken that way.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:13:49 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA22407;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:13:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA10268;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:13:47 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA18576;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:12:04 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA143880
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:09:52 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA46692;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:09:51 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:09:51 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: A few suggestions, and a comment about the FAQ
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Matt Ackeret <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> 9.5 How do I change my 'From:' line?
>
> From Pine's [M]AIN MENU, choose [S]etup, then [C]onfig. Move down to
> the [17]customized-hdrs option. Press "A Add Value". Use the format:
> From: "My Real Name" <[email protected]>
>
> Note: You may wish to add 'From:' to the list of
> [18]default-composer-hdrs so you can change the From line more easily
> when composing new messages. The process is the same as for adding the
> "From:" line to the customized-hdrs entry.
>
> Press Return to accept the change, and "E Exit Setup".
>
> Beginning with Pine 4.30, changing of the "from" value is allowed by
> default.
>
> Because, after I add the From: address to my customized-hdrs
> entry, now the ONLY header I see when I compose a new message is
> an editable From: line.. Not From: added as well as the 4 normal ones.
>
> Now, I guess I can (1) clear out that field, (2) compose a new message,
> (3) write a list of what headers it puts in by default, (4) go back to prefs
> and add in the From: line AS WELL as the headers I see in #3..

It looks like you may have also added your From: line to the
default-composer-hdrs section. Here's what the help says for that option:

OPTION: Default-Composer-Headers

You can decide which headers you want visible when composing outgoing
email using this option. You can specify any of the regular set, any rich
header or any custom header which you have already defined. If you use
this setting at all, you must specify all the headers you want to see, you
can't just add to the regular header set. The default set is To:, Cc:,
Attchmnt:, and Subject:.

So if you added the From: line there, it's doing what it's supposed to.
But if the default-composer-hdrs is empty and you've only added it to the
customized-hdrs, then you may have found a bug.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:35:00 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA22185;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:34:59 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA31986;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:34:58 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA24784;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:33:06 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA13244
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:27:28 -0800
Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA13731
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:27:25 -0800
Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64])
by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0U3RLD49046
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:27:21 -0500
Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost)
by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA129904
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:27:21 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:27:21 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: A few suggestions, and a comment about the FAQ
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
> > >> Pine FAQ [9.5] <<
> > Note: You may wish to add 'From:' to the list of
> > default-composer-hdrs so you can change the From line more easily
> > when composing new messages. The process is the same as for adding the
> > "From:" line to the customized-hdrs entry.
> >
> > Because, after I add the From: address to my customized-hdrs
> > entry, now the ONLY header I see when I compose a new message is
> > an editable From: line.. Not From: added as well as the 4 normal ones.
> >
> <snip>
>
> It looks like you may have also added your From: line to the
> default-composer-hdrs section. Here's what the help says for that option:
>
<snipped help>
>
> So if you added the From: line there, it's doing what it's supposed to.
> But if the default-composer-hdrs is empty and you've only added it to the
> customized-hdrs, then you may have found a bug.

i support adding to the FAQ an explaination that if you do add just
"From:" to the default-composer-hdrs that it will only show "From:", and
that you need to list all the headers (To, Cc, Attchmnt, Subject) you want
to see. however, i'm not too worried about problems with this. i think
it's pretty intuitive.

aaron

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:02:47 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id UAA10207;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:02:46 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA11358;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:02:45 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA22438;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:00:38 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA136582
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:58:03 -0800
Received: from jnantz.phx.inficad.com (IDENT:[email protected] [208.220.148.137])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA25047
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:58:01 -0800
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[email protected] [127.0.0.1])
by jnantz.phx.inficad.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA01936
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:02:16 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:02:09 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jim <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: same here part 2
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

while looking around on the list archives I found Eduardo's post saying to
go to line 3902 in the file mailpart.c and remove the quotes from the str
variable.

I looked at the mailpart.c file and went to line 3902. The quotes aren't
there.

I also have version 4.32. Is there any differences between the source
code at ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed and the compiled
binaries for pine 4.32?

thanks

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:04:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA09680;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:04:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA12470;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:04:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA26732;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:02:28 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA61348
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:00:20 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA15330
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:00:20 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA142697;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:00:19 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101292052410.65205-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:00:18 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: same here part 2
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jim <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Jim ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) while looking around on the list archives I found Eduardo's post saying to
:) go to line 3902 in the file mailpart.c and remove the quotes from the str
:) variable.
:)
:) I looked at the mailpart.c file and went to line 3902. The quotes aren't
:) there.

Dear Jim,

Sorry I misled you. I seem to have misled a few people with that remark.
What I meant to say was that the variable str is a pointer to a char which
contains as str[0] (as well as str[strlen(str)]) a double quotation sign.
What was needed was a function that removed these quotations signs from
the value of this variable. I have a patch in my web page that does this
for you (see address below).

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:20:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA20056;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:20:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA12786;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:20:52 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA15448;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:20:30 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA135932
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:18:34 -0800
Received: from charisma.math.uiuc.edu (charisma.math.uiuc.edu [130.126.108.20])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA03956
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:18:34 -0800
Received: from u30.math.uiuc.edu (u30.math.uiuc.edu [130.126.108.60])
by charisma.math.uiuc.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0U5IXc06327
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:18:33 -0600 (CST)
Received: from localhost (asari@localhost)
by u30.math.uiuc.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0U5IW200824
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:18:32 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:18:32 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: ASARI Hirotsugu <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: url-viewer in 4.32
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: u30.math.uiuc.edu: asari owned process doing -bs
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hi,

My sysadmin recently upgraded pine from 4.20 to 4.32. I had URL viewer
set up fine in the old version, but now 4.32 doesn't like the same value.
Any ideas?

In my .pinerc:

# List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references).
url-viewers=_TEST("test -h /home/users/asari/.netscape/lock")_ "/usr/local/bin/netscape -remote 'openURL(_URL_,new-window)'",
_TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/local/bin/netscape,
"/usr/local/bin/lynx _URL_"

pine complains that 'test -h ...' does not exist.

I appreciate any insight on this matter.

--
ASARI Hirotsugu // http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~asari/
Graduate Student/Teaching Assistant // mailto:[email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:26:14 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA04489;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:26:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA12878;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:26:12 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA21756;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:25:48 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA57586
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:23:40 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA04531
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:23:40 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA95690;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:23:39 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101292121350.65205-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:23:39 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: url-viewer in 4.32
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: ASARI Hirotsugu <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** ASARI Hirotsugu ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) # List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references).
:) url-viewers=_TEST("test -h /home/users/asari/.netscape/lock")_ "/usr/local/bin/netscape -remote 'openURL(_URL_,new-window)'",
:) _TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/local/bin/netscape,
:) "/usr/local/bin/lynx _URL_"
:)
:) pine complains that 'test -h ...' does not exist.

It's a bug in pine which is not recognizing that it has to eliminate the
quotes from the _TEST_ command. There is a patch that solves this problem
though, which can be obtained from my web page (address below).

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:36:51 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA04037;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:36:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA13076;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:36:49 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA22804;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:31:30 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA87396
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:29:30 -0800
Received: from argo.starforce.com ([email protected] [216.158.56.82])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA05215
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:29:29 -0800
Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost)
by argo.starforce.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/starforce-r1) with ESMTP id f0U5TV305715;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:29:31 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:29:16 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pine and PGP
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jim <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Make sure you have the following in your pine config (the example in the
README is wrong, it shows "_BEGINNING" which will check pgp signatures too
often, like in a reply where the content could possibly be modified.
_LEADING will check the siguature or try to decrypt only if the first text
of the message body begins with -----BEIGN PGP, not the first text of any
line. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.

display-filters =
_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp4pine -d -i _TMPFILE_
sending-filters =
/usr/local/bin/pgp4pine -e -i _TMPFILE_ -r _RECIPIENTS_

Be sure to replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path to pgp4pine.

- -dwild

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Jim wrote:

> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:47:41 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jim <[email protected]>
> To: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
> Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Pine and PGP
>
> I wonder now if it's something at my end. I checked the headers of both
> replies you sent. The one you sent to the list was the second one I got
> and it was the one where the signature was checked. The one that came
> directly from you had a signature, but it wasn't checked at this end.
> Also pgp signed messages I got from other people were not checked either.
>
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Derek Wildstar wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Jim wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for your help, I was able to get pgp4pine installed, but I have one
> > > question. I checked my mail this morning and I had two copies of your
> > > reply, one from you and one via the list. The one from the list had the
> > > following text, the one from you did not. Both had your signature.
> > >
> > > > - ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> > > > gpg: Signature made Mon 29 Jan 2001 03:49:03 AM EST using DSA key ID 1CB8478F
> > > > gpg: Good signature from "Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>"
> > >
> > > Why did one have the output from gpg and the other did not? Is this
> > > something I need to change at my end?
> >
> > my bad....i had mis-forwarded to the list with the wrong from: address
> > (used for procmail sorting), and inadvertantly signed the second message
> > twice.
> >
> > -dwild
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> gpg: Signature made Mon 29 Jan 2001 06:48:06 PM EST using RSA key ID D3365227
> gpg: requesting key D3365227 from wwwkeys.pgp.net ...
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> gpg: Total number processed: 0
> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
>
>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iEYEARECAAYFAjp2UTUACgkQmFSlcxy4R493RQCbBCYJ5BXeT48I7dpMTV66H3lA
pkEAnRiNPNyNXgTFrheP+xhC8vbdeWnw
=8RoT
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:41:44 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA11882;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:41:43 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA13152;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:41:42 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA28030;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:41:21 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA68136
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:39:20 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA06336
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:39:19 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA99134;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:38:45 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101292125050.65205-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:38:45 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: how do I tell pine I'm not "owner"?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: "Mike A. Harris" <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Mike A. Harris ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) I agree with you 100% Frank. A lot of software FAQ's exist
:) because a program does not do what users expect it to do. An
:) "FAQ" is a hint to software engineers to design the software in
:) such a way that no FAQ is required. This is an ideal situation
:) however, which is likely not 100% unachievable in reality.

I think one way to achieve this is by adding a "search" function in the
help section from the main menu which works like a search engine does. So
for example if one wants to know how to change the from field then you
enter "change from" (say) in the search field and pine displays features
that have to do with changing the from field (e.g. "allow-changing-from",
"customized-hdrs" etc). That would make it easier for a person to find
which feature relates to the functionality that the person is looking for.
Just to give you an example, does someone know without any research, in
which feature is the fact that pine deletes the spaces at the end of a
line documented?. Maybe this search function can be implemented in pine's
official site, and make a link from the help in the online documentation
to this site. In any case, as usual, I'm just dreaming out loud.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:04:20 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA32021;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:04:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA03444;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:04:18 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA31378;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:01:06 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA79708
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:58:49 -0800
Received: from jnantz.phx.inficad.com (IDENT:[email protected] [208.220.148.137])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA06849
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:58:47 -0800
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[email protected] [127.0.0.1])
by jnantz.phx.inficad.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA02658
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:03:03 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:02:56 -0700 (MST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jim <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: still not working
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

First I'd like to thank the people who gave me the suggestions for making
pine's display filters work. However I'm still having trouble.

I have pine 4.32 and I'm running it on Red Hat linux 6.2. I downloaded
the pine 4.32 binary file from a site at washington.edu that's linked to
from the pine homepage.

Also a note to Eduardo, I have 4.32. Your site says the patch is for 4.31
and it's included in 4.32.

Here are the relevant parts of my .pinerc file. It appears to properly
process anything I send, but I included that part just in case. When I
open a pgp signed message, pine displays it as if the filter wasn't there.

# This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into
# after MIME decoding, prior to display.
display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /usr/bin/pgp4pine -d -i
_TMPFILE_

# This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME
# encoding, prior to sending
sending-filters=/usr/bin/pgp4pine -e -i _TMPFILE_ -r _RECIPIENTS_

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:11:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA29740;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:11:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA14873;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:11:48 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA19564;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:10:05 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA68206
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:08:09 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA30192
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:08:09 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA146495;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:08:08 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101292306050.65205-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:08:07 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: still not working
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jim <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Jim ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info list on Jan 30, 2001:

:) Also a note to Eduardo, I have 4.32. Your site says the patch is for 4.31
:) and it's included in 4.32.

I guess you took a look at the wrong patch. The one I was refering to is
explained here:

http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/info/quotes.html

you'll have to apply the patch over clean source (not patched source) and
rebuild again.

:) Here are the relevant parts of my .pinerc file. It appears to properly
:) process anything I send, but I included that part just in case. When I
:) open a pgp signed message, pine displays it as if the filter wasn't there.

Exactly, display-filters has nothing to do with this setting.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:46:43 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA22710;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:46:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA04233;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:46:41 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA28622;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:45:03 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA106106
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:42:56 -0800
Received: from argo.starforce.com ([email protected] [216.158.56.82])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA19388
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:42:56 -0800
Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost)
by argo.starforce.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/starforce-r1) with ESMTP id f0U7gvX06178;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:42:57 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:42:41 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: still not working
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Jim <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I had problems with the same command exec on 4.32, 4.31 is fine tho.
Could it be that quote patch?

- -dwild

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jim wrote:

> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:02:56 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jim <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: still not working
>
> First I'd like to thank the people who gave me the suggestions for making
> pine's display filters work. However I'm still having trouble.
>
> I have pine 4.32 and I'm running it on Red Hat linux 6.2. I downloaded
> the pine 4.32 binary file from a site at washington.edu that's linked to
> from the pine homepage.
>
> Also a note to Eduardo, I have 4.32. Your site says the patch is for 4.31
> and it's included in 4.32.
>
> Here are the relevant parts of my .pinerc file. It appears to properly
> process anything I send, but I included that part just in case. When I
> open a pgp signed message, pine displays it as if the filter wasn't there.
>
> # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into
> # after MIME decoding, prior to display.
> display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /usr/bin/pgp4pine -d -i
> _TMPFILE_
>
> # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME
> # encoding, prior to sending
> sending-filters=/usr/bin/pgp4pine -e -i _TMPFILE_ -r _RECIPIENTS_
>
>
>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iEYEARECAAYFAjp2cHsACgkQmFSlcxy4R49b8gCggtGjyxT49qMRYkt80+WI65KG
QNIAn2p7Rxts1EzACoLuY0Xknjip2m76
=HrWF
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:54:44 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA32552;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:54:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA15629;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:54:42 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA28398;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:52:55 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA107060
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:50:56 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA22186
for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:50:56 -0800
Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA155110;
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:50:48 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101292347310.65205-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:50:48 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: still not working
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Derek Wildstar ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) I had problems with the same command exec on 4.32, 4.31 is fine tho.
:) Could it be that quote patch?

Ok, so I take it that you went to the address that I gave you, downloaded
the patch, applied the patch, rebuilt pine and used the new version of
Pine and you still have problems. Is that correct?

With the configuration you posted before, the patch should have solved
your problem, so I am guessing you must be doing something wrong. Could
you tell me step by step what you did? Thanks.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:25:45 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA14235;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:25:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA06121;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:25:43 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA19116;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:22:43 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA107208
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:21:42 -0800
Received: from argo.starforce.com ([email protected] [216.158.56.82])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA19900
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:21:41 -0800
Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost)
by argo.starforce.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/starforce-r1) with ESMTP id f0U9LPG06535;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 04:21:25 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 04:21:08 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: still not working
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101292347310.65205-100000@goedel1.math.washington.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> *** Derek Wildstar ([email protected]) wrote in the pine-info...:
>
> :) I had problems with the same command exec on 4.32, 4.31 is fine tho.
> :) Could it be that quote patch?
>
> Ok, so I take it that you went to the address that I gave you, downloaded
> the patch, applied the patch, rebuilt pine and used the new version of
> Pine and you still have problems. Is that correct?
>
> With the configuration you posted before, the patch should have solved
> your problem, so I am guessing you must be doing something wrong. Could
> you tell me step by step what you did? Thanks.

Didn't try the patch but here's something that may help debug or confirm:

When the filters are entered in pine 4.31 thru the config or .pinerc they
work. With a pine 4.32 binary they work, until they are edited, then stop
working.

- -dwild
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iEYEARECAAYFAjp2h48ACgkQmFSlcxy4R49nwgCghy6XblBqfpy7lASxR9frH0G0
/PsAnj1kQ1e4w/f+npJQLrrxsCMPwlt7
=xEHC
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:33:08 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id BAA26764;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:33:06 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA06243;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:33:06 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA28650;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:31:20 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA108860
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:30:27 -0800
Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA20470
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:30:27 -0800
Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11])
by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA168163;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:30:19 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.32.0101300122480.197429-100000@goedel2.math.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:30:19 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Eduardo Chappa <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: still not working
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Derek Wildstar <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

*** Derek Wildstar ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) Didn't try the patch but here's something that may help debug or confirm:
:)
:) When the filters are entered in pine 4.31 thru the config or .pinerc they
:) work. With a pine 4.32 binary they work, until they are edited, then stop
:) working.

Ok, that explains a lot. Pine4.31 does not have any problem with
display-filters. You won't find any problem in there no matter how hard
you try. There was a change in the way quoting in handled in 4.32 that
made this bug appear. If you absolutely need to have quoting in your
configuration (like in _LEADIN("this sentence has several spaces")_, then
you must apply the patch in order to make pine4.32 work again, but if you
do not need to write quotes (like in _BEGINNING(<HTML>)_ ), then you can
skip the patch. In any case, if the patch is your solution you must apply
it, or wait a few more days until 4.33 appears and then download the
binary. At this time the only solution for 4.32 is to apply the patch.

--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:35:50 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA27873;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA11990;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:35:47 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA25528;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:33:51 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA163042
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:32:19 -0800
Received: from pop3free.com (sense-rickd-200.oz.net [216.39.161.200])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA31656
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:32:17 -0800
Received: from graciela.gpirujo.com by pop3free.com
with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R)
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:31:35 -0800
Received: from localhost (gpirujo@localhost)
by graciela.gpirujo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00670
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:19:04 -0300
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:19:03 -0300 (ART)
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Formatted text
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Return-Path: [email protected]
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [email protected]
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Is there a way to tell pine to replace _text_ or other format instructions
with the correct formatted text? Any one knows where can I learn of other
formats to apply to text in this text-only way?
Thank you!

--
Guillermo Pereyra Irujo
mailto:[email protected]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:31:31 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA07361;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:31:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA23494;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:31:30 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA08562;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:30:50 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA161784
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:29:23 -0800
Received: from postbox.ucolick.org (panther.ucolick.org [128.114.22.199])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA16727
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:29:23 -0800
Received: from isis.ucolick.org (isis.ucolick.org [128.114.22.158])
by postbox.ucolick.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0UKTE122305
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:29:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (stuart@localhost)
by isis.ucolick.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24850
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:28:59 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:28:59 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Stuart Norton <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: cut & paste
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Authentication-Warning: isis.ucolick.org: stuart owned process doing -bs
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I'm using pine 4.03 under UNIX (actually, on a PC through hummingbird
exceed, which shouldn't change matters) and having trouble with the
cut/paste features. Specificially, if I cut text with ^K the text is not
pasted into the X primary cut buffer. According to previous messages on
this list, I thought it should be. Or is that feature just not supported?

I need to write a macro for cutting the entire text of a letter and
pasting it into a different window, and there seems to be no way to do
that with a multiple-page letter...? I can cut the entire text with ^K,
but I can't paste that text into a different window.

The problem occurs with x-mouse enabled or disabled. Any ideas for a
workaround?

Thanks in advance,
Stuart

----------------------------------------------------------------------
--- Stuart Norton ---
--- [email protected] ---
--- Astronomy & Astrophysics - University of California ---
--- Santa Cruz, CA 95064 ---
--- (831) 459-4362 ---
----------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:16:18 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA05342;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA24974;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:16:16 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA19562;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:15:29 -0800
Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.15.205])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA111718
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:07:08 -0800
Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost)
by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA22350;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:07:05 -0800
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:07:04 -0800 (PST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cut & paste
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Stuart Norton <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Stuart Norton wrote:

> I'm using pine 4.03 under UNIX (actually, on a PC through hummingbird
> exceed, which shouldn't change matters) and having trouble with the
> cut/paste features. Specificially, if I cut text with ^K the text is not
> pasted into the X primary cut buffer. According to previous messages on
> this list, I thought it should be. Or is that feature just not supported?
>
> I need to write a macro for cutting the entire text of a letter and
> pasting it into a different window, and there seems to be no way to do
> that with a multiple-page letter...? I can cut the entire text with ^K,
> but I can't paste that text into a different window.
>
> The problem occurs with x-mouse enabled or disabled. Any ideas for a
> workaround?

Pine's ^K/^U cut-and-paste doesn't use any X cut buffers, (or the
clipboard, as Windows users usually refer to it). Instead, it uses an
internal buffer that works no matter whether you're using X, a window
manager, or none of the above.

If you want to copy and paste between windows, you'll need to use your
mouse to select text, and then use the WM's command (usually one of the
mouse buttons) to copy and paste the text. As far as I know, you can't
cut text this way - just copy it.

If the normal mouse selection doesn't work, you may either need to disable
the mouse in Pine (through Main, Setup, Config), or hold down a key
(usually Shift, I think) while you do the selection.

--
Scott Leibrand
[email protected] (Yes, that is a valid address.)
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
* Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) *
* RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. *
* Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:18:00 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA30387;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:17:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA25032;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:17:57 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA19272;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA37812
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:12:30 -0800
Received: from MIT.EDU (SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.72.1.2])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA26739
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:12:29 -0800
Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP
id AA13397; Tue, 30 Jan 01 16:11:02 EST
Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45])
by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA25898;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:12:28 -0500 (EST)
Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73])
by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA12300;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:12:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP
id QAA20024; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:12:26 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:12:21 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cut & paste
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Stuart Norton <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Stuart Norton wrote:
> cut/paste features. Specificially, if I cut text with ^K the text is not
> pasted into the X primary cut buffer.

As far as I can tell (a brief glance at the "Xterm Control Sequences"
document), applications running in an xterm will only interact with
the "X" part of the xterm via mouse-tracking callbacks. It appears
that the only way for the running application to tell the xterm to
highlight a range of text is when both the xterm and the application
agree that they're currently tracking the mouse pointer around the xterm.

Your mileage may vary, but it looks like you'd have to use the mouse.
The only workaround I can think of is to escape out to an alternate
editor, and perhaps have that alternate editor be an X application
like emacs, which could then finish the rest of your script.

Jacob Morzinski [email protected]

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:07:49 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA30583;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA29269;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:07:46 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA30130;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:07:18 -0800
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA125950
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:06:07 -0800
Received: from johanna5.ux.his.no (johanna5.ux.his.no [152.94.1.25])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA20948
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:06:05 -0800
Received: from gorina13.ux.his.no (gorina13.ux.his.no [152.94.1.53])
by johanna5.ux.his.no (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0UN5vA16679
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:05:58 +0100 (MET)
Received: by gorina13.ux.his.no id SAA26184; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:05:55 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:05:55 +0100 (MET)
Reply-To: Atle Weibell <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Atle Weibell <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Lost attachments
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Hello,

I've been using a web-interface for my mail for a long time, due to
travelling and waiting for phone-line to be installed in my apartment.

Now I had 200+ msg in my inbox, and opened it in Pine 4.31. I exited,
saving all read messages to a local folder automatically. When I look at
the messages in the local folder, it seems like all attachments are just
gone...? Or actually it seems like all msgs that did have attachments
now just have the headers left. The body and attachments are just not
there...??

I suppose they are gone forever, and that's bad enough, but why did this
happen??

--
Atle Weibell

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:19:13 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA27310;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:19:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA08439;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:19:10 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA28096;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:18:45 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA58842
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:17:50 -0800
Received: from equake.geol.vt.edu (equake.geol.vt.edu [128.173.184.42])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA15695
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:17:44 -0800
Received: from localhost (snoke@localhost)
by equake.geol.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12363;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:17:32 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:17:32 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Arthur Snoke <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Lost attachments
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Atle Weibell <[email protected]>
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I had something like this happen before and never understood exactly
why. In my case, I had opened Sun's Mailtool, not done anything with the
messages in question, but when I went back into pine (an earlier version
than 4.31) I had exactly your symptom: only the header came up in pine.

The good news is that the rest of the file was still there, complete with
attachments. What I found is that somehow the formatting had gotten
screwed up (Why?...). By comparing the corrupted files with uncorrupted
ones, I was able to manually edit the problem file using a text editor and
get pine to open them okay again.

In my case, I had only a couple of files to deal with.

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:29:37 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA09541;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:29:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list3.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.100])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA17414;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:29:36 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA20976;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:29:05 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA58730;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:27:03 -0800
Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA12295;
Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:27:02 -0800
Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.14])
by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP
id 76CB536DEC; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:27:00 +0100 (MET)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:27:00 +0100 (MET)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Bruce Cohen <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Lost attachments
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Atle Weibell <[email protected]>, [email protected]
X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>,
Jeff Franklin <[email protected]>,
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

Atle,

Have you tried turning on long headers in Pine? I have had similar things
happen to msgs - especially once they are saved to folders. Most of the
time everything is still there, only Pine sees it all as part of the
header.

Maybe if the people on the development team would finally concentrate on
getting "long headers" really solved we would all have a lot less
problems!

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Atle Weibell wrote:

> Hello,

I've been using a web-interface for my mail for a long time, due to
travelling and waiting for phone-line to be installed in my apartment.

Now I had 200+ msg in my inbox, and opened it in Pine 4.31. I exited,
saving all read messages to a local folder automatically. When I look at
the messages in the local folder, it seems like all attachments are just
gone...? Or actually it seems like all msgs that did have attachments
now just have the headers left. The body and attachments are just not
there...??

I suppose they are gone forever, and that's bad enough, but why did this
happen??

--
Atle Weibell

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:09:59 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA14143;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:09:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list1.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.8.99])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29228;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:09:57 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA05944;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:09:23 -0800
Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA135850
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:08:04 -0800
Received: from sjs.com (linux.sjs.com [199.245.191.2])
by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA28626
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:08:03 -0800
Received: from localhost (steve@localhost)
by sjs.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0VF7vA06069
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:07:57 -0500
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:07:57 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Configuring a Virtual User?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I have a account "support-age" but I want the mail to look like it's
been sent from a "support" account and the replyto should be set to
[email protected].
How do I go about configuring Pine to do this?

Regards,
Steve Stuczynski

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:43:56 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id IAA01444;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:43:54 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list4.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.167])
by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA31916;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:43:54 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA16238;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:42:40 -0800
Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA70708
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:41:16 -0800
Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9])
by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA18787
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:41:15 -0800
Received: from mum.cs.sc.edu (mum.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.144])
by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29110
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:41:14 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost)
by mum.cs.sc.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07157
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:41:36 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:41:36 -0500 (EST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Gopi Sundaram <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Configuring a Virtual User?
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine-info Mailing List <[email protected]>
X-Authentication-Warning: mum.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Steve wrote:

> I have a account "support-age" but I want the mail to look like
> it's been sent from a "support" account and the replyto should be
> set to [email protected].

Define a role. (M)ain (S)etup (R)ules (R)oles

Set the pattern for Recipients to be support-age@whatever. You can set
the outgoing From: and Reply-To addresses further down in the screen.

Read the online help. It's very useful.

--
Gopi Sundaram
[email protected]
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/

From [email protected] Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:44:05 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA03415;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:44:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from list2.u.washington.edu ([email protected] [140.142.14.165])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA08707;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:44:04 -0800
Received: from host ([email protected] [140.142.56.13])
by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA28218;
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:43:22 -0800
Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA144122
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:41:41 -0800
Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1])
by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA29687
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:41:41 -0800
Received: from students.aurora.edu (mail.aurora.edu [64.107.89.49])
by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA08660
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:41:40 -0800
Received: from localhost (slowe@localhost)
by students.aurora.edu (8.11.1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f113f5118161
for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:41:05 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:41:05 -0600 (CST)
Sender: [email protected]
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=unsubscribe%20pine-info>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20YourName>
List-Owner: <mailto:[email protected]> (Human contact for the list)
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
From: Steve Lowe <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: IMAPD Compilation Failure
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-To: Pine Information List <[email protected]>
X-X-Sender: <[email protected]>
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

I am attempting to compile unix pine 4.32 on a Digital Alpha running
Digital Tru64 Unix 4.0f. Here is an extract from my typescript generated
during the normal Pine 'build' process:

Script started on Wed Jan 31 21:30:44 2001
# ./build os4
make args are CC=cc

Including SSL functionality
Making c-client library, mtest and imapd
make CC=cc SPECIALAUTHENTICATORS=ssl os4
Applying an process to sources...
tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client
sh -c '(test -d src/kerberos) && (ln -s `pwd`/src/kerberos/* c-client) || true'
tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
ln -s tools/an .

cc -g3 -std0 -O2 `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c
cc: Warning: auth_ssl.c, line 166: In this statement, the referenced type of the pointer value "tmp" is "signed char", which is not compatible with "unsigned char". (ptrmismatch)
RAND_seed (tmp,strlen (tmp));
-----------------^
cc -g3 -std0 -O2 -c utf8.c

`cat ../c-client/CCTYPE` -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c mtest.c
`cat ../c-client/CCTYPE` -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
ld:
Unresolved:
SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.

cc: Warning: pico_os.c, line 2396: The redefinition of the macro "MAX" conflicts with a current definition because the spelling of one or more parameters is different. The redefinition is now in effect. (macroredef)
#define MAX(x,y) ((x) > (y) ? (x) : (y))
------------^

Unresolved:
SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file
*** Exit 1
Stop.

Links to executables are in bin directory:
text data bss dec hex
3399680 1572864 42464 5015008 4c85e0 bin/pine
1351680 131072 6256 1489008 16b870 bin/mtest
size: Cannot open bin/imapd
253952 40960 5072 299984 493d0 bin/pico
253952 40960 4352 299264 49100 bin/pilot
Done

script done on Wed Jan 31 21:34:00 2001
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any suggestions? Do I have to have a link to any openSSL libraries?

Thanks in advance.

-- Steve Lowe
Aurora University

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------