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Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?

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> Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
> don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
> download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?

well, there's StarOffice for linux and solaris. It is free and it will
read MS Word files.

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Leslie Fairall wrote:

> Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
> don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
> download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?

Microsoft has a free Word reader program. Just download and use that.

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Bob Rasmussen wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Leslie Fairall wrote:
>
> > Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
> > don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
> > download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?
>
> Microsoft has a free Word reader program. Just download and use that.

But that still requires a Windows (or possibly Mac) PC, doesn't it?

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If you don't care about the format and just want to read what
they send, try word2x - http://word2x.alcom.co.uk/ and wv -
http://www.wvWare.com/ . I tried word2x once with a contract
and it worked, but failed with other. Since you're a Unix user,
IMO the best way is to convert using tools like those and read
within Pine. StarOffice (a mamuth) should be used only if they
fail.

On 2000-04-01 (Today) at 19:55 -0500, Leslie Fairall typed:

| Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
| don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
| download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Bob Rasmussen wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Leslie Fairall wrote:
>
> > Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
> > don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
> > download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?
>
> Microsoft has a free Word reader program. Just download and use that.

If this reader works in Unix, I'll eat my hat. Microsoft hates Unix (it
has ever since it sold Xenix to SCO).

-Stephen-

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Leslie Fairall wrote:

> Is there a way for me to read Microsoft Word attachments in unix pine? I
> don't have and cannot use Microsoft Word at this time, so I can't just
> download the file and open it in Word. Any suggestions?

You don't say whether you have access to Solaris or not,
but we're using pcv from Sun, and on linux pine, my mailcap
fires off an rsh to a solaris host to display the word/excel/powerpoint...
document on my screen -- works fine most of the time.

We used to use catdoc (and I still do when I'm logged in remotely).
If your desperate, strings will show most of the document.
Another choice would be to ask the sender to mail it to you
in a non-proprietory format (like text).

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Hi:

Thanks to everyone who responded to me so far. I asked my professor to
mail everything in plain text, but he can't seem to do it. I am using
BSDII (don't know what version) and am dialing into my shell account. Is
there a way to use some of these suggested utilities within pine itself? I
would like to be able to view the Word attachment in pine itself, if
possible.

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jacob Morzinski wrote:
> This check will fail on MH folders and on IMAP folders, both of
> which can have a FCC folder which is a folder and is a directory.

A patch which fixes only the problem with the FCC behavior is
attached to this message. Note that a reading of the source
suggests that there are more bugs related to pine's mis-handling
of IMAP. It looks like "Tab" won't find unseen messages on imap
servers, and going back to the folder list from an index listing
is unable to keep track of the current folder when visiting imap
folders. Additionally, the folder selector (^T, when trying to
pick a place to save messages) just flat out Doesn't Work for
people who are trying to save into IMAP -- it only lets them
ascend and descend the heirarchy, and never lets them select a
folder.

Anyway, this patch fixes the fcc behavior, so that you can use a
short-name fcc which pine will look for in your default
collection for saves. (Previously, you had to specify the full
path to your fcc folder.)

Sincerely,
Jacob Morzinski

*** pine4.21/pine/send.c 2000/03/27 09:15:54 3.1
--- pine4.21/pine/send.c 2000/04/02 20:11:56
***************
*** 6022,6028 ****
*fcc_cntxt = ps_global->context_list;

build_folder_list(NULL, *fcc_cntxt, fcc, NULL, BFL_FLDRONLY);
! if(folder_index(fcc, *fcc_cntxt, FI_FOLDER) < 0){
if(ps_global->context_list->next)
sprintf(tmp_20k_buf,
"Folder \"%.20s\" in <%.30s> doesn't exist. Create",
--- 6022,6029 ----
*fcc_cntxt = ps_global->context_list;

build_folder_list(NULL, *fcc_cntxt, fcc, NULL, BFL_FLDRONLY);
! if(!(folder_exists(*fcc_cntxt, fcc) & FEX_ISFILE)
! || (folder_index(fcc, *fcc_cntxt, FI_ANY) < 0)){
if(ps_global->context_list->next)
sprintf(tmp_20k_buf,
"Folder \"%.20s\" in <%.30s> doesn't exist. Create",

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I have been trying to figure out how to include Chinese (simplified)
characters in pine; I've set the character-set variable to
"UNICODE-1-1-UTF-7" though it's probably not necessay. It seems I can
paste in Chinese etc. in "gb2312" character set (Netscape, Windows use)
and pine passes them along fine, though gb2312 is not supported by pine,
so they aren't displayed right; but if I wanted to enter them in Unicode,
then they would be displayed right (I'm guessing most people would not
have unicode fonts installed in Netscape/Windows however)? Any
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On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Jim Worthington wrote:

> I have been trying to figure out how to include Chinese (simplified)
> characters in pine; I've set the character-set variable to
> "UNICODE-1-1-UTF-7" though it's probably not necessay. It seems I can
> paste in Chinese etc. in "gb2312" character set (Netscape, Windows use)
> and pine passes them along fine, though gb2312 is not supported by pine,
> so they aren't displayed right; but if I wanted to enter them in Unicode,
> then they would be displayed right (I'm guessing most people would not
> have unicode fonts installed in Netscape/Windows however)? Any
> suggestions/comments? Thank you,

You don't say whether you're using Pine on Unix or PC-Pine. The following will
assume Pine on Unix.

My perception is that Pine is fairly transparent with characters (unless your
email went through a 7-bit link somewhere). What you enter is what gets
displayed. The character-set variable tells an outgoing message what its
encoding is; it's up to the recipient's mail client to render that properly.

So when you send a message, if you're saying it's encoded in Unicode, you
ought to convert it to Unicode. More on this later.

When Unix Pine receives an email with a character-set designation different
from yours, it simply advises you of that. It doesn't translate at all. It's a
weak point in Unix Pine, IMHO.

Here's a solution, again assuming Unix Pine:

Use Anzio (our product) for your telnet client. Tell Anzio to send to and
receive from the host in UTF8. Tell Pine its character-set is UTF8. Now you
can paste Chinese (Russian, Latvian, etc.) characters in, from any
Unicode-enabled application on your Windows PC. Your email messages will go
out in an internally consistent form. (You could alternatively set Anzio and
Pine to use GB, or various other charsets).

When you receive an email in a particular charset, just set Anzio to match
that charset, and have Pine redisplay the message. You'll see your Chinese,
etc. It is also possible to set up your mailcap to switch Anzio into different
charsets and then display the message with "less" or something similar. Of
course you'll have to have a font with Chinese characters.

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I've just spent much longer than ought to be necessary trying to get all my
keys to work with Pine 4.21 on Unix. My terminfo entry was right.

* Several of my key sequences start with ESC [ 1 (such as ESC [ 1 ~)

* Pine has a default keymap for Sun console (KEY_SWALLOW_Z) that is
ESC [ 1

* My terminfo definition won't take precedence unless
"termdef-takes-precedence" is defined in my feature list

* This is a "hidden" feature

* Consequently, this was way too hard!

Presumable others might have this problem. I propose, in decreasing order of
preference:

1. Remove this from the default keymap.

2. Make termcap-takes-precedence a non-hidden feature.

And finally, would somebody please explain what that key is?

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Hello altogether, sorry a somewhat rather particular question.
Accessing
Linux-based Pine from a
nt40sp5 workstation via
nt's telnet by
vt-100 or ANSI,
everything works perfectly well but
printing from Pine
seems impossible.

On the other hand,
+ printers on NT-workstation do work well with any other software
+ print-out from Pine works well with other telnet,
eg on old PCs with Win3.11 based Attachmate telnet

Any similar experience among us ?
Any hints for trouble-shooting ?
Alternative nt-based telnet or ssh
to be recommended ?

TIA, kind regards, hal ;-)

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On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, H. Bork wrote:

> Hello altogether, sorry a somewhat rather particular question.
> Accessing
> Linux-based Pine from a
> nt40sp5 workstation via
> nt's telnet by

Might as well stop right there. Microsoft's included telnet does NOT have
passthrough print capabilities. You'll need a "functional" telnet
package. Please consider ours.

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Since your accessing from an NT, why not
setup lpr/lpd as a service on your NT, then
setup your local printer as a remote printer from linux
and have pine print to the remote printer which would
then get printed on your NT local printer. The only
caveat, is if it's an HP printer, you will need to
run the print job through a lf -> cr/lf conversion
first, which isn't really that bad, since you can
setup your printer in pine to do that then pipe to lpr.

George

>-----Original Message-----
>From: H. Bork [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:49 PM
>To: Pine Discussion Forum
>Subject: ? printing problem
>
>
>Hello altogether, sorry a somewhat rather particular question.
>Accessing
>Linux-based Pine from a
>nt40sp5 workstation via
>nt's telnet by
>vt-100 or ANSI,
>everything works perfectly well but
> printing from Pine
> seems impossible.
>
>On the other hand,
>+ printers on NT-workstation do work well with any other software
>+ print-out from Pine works well with other telnet,
> eg on old PCs with Win3.11 based Attachmate telnet
>
>Any similar experience among us ?
>Any hints for trouble-shooting ?
>Alternative nt-based telnet or ssh
>to be recommended ?
>
>TIA, kind regards, hal ;-)
>

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We use Tera Term as our telnet client on all Windows variants, and have
had no problems with printing or anything else. It's free and
open-source, and there is an SSH plugin for it as well.

Do a search at www.google.com for tera term ssh and it'll be the first
result.

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On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, H. Bork wrote:

> Hello altogether, sorry a somewhat rather particular question.
> Accessing
> Linux-based Pine from a
> nt40sp5 workstation via
> nt's telnet by
> vt-100 or ANSI,
> everything works perfectly well but
> printing from Pine
> seems impossible.
>
> On the other hand,
> + printers on NT-workstation do work well with any other software
> + print-out from Pine works well with other telnet,
> eg on old PCs with Win3.11 based Attachmate telnet
>
> Any similar experience among us ?
> Any hints for trouble-shooting ?
> Alternative nt-based telnet or ssh
> to be recommended ?
>
> TIA, kind regards, hal ;-)
>
>

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We are currently using PINE 3.96
I downloaded via ftp PINE 4.21 from the precompiled Unix binaries from
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin/

11/17/00 11:33AM 7,918,606 pine-bin.aix4.2

After downloading, I changed the rights and I tried to run the
'pine-bin.aix4.2' and received the following error:

[Can't open inbox (file /var/spool/mail/watkins): not in valid mailbox format]

Does something special have to done to the configuration files (PINE 3.96)
to have PINE 4.2.1 to work?

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Denny Watkins
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Hello Jacob: Thanks for the wonderful patch, it seems to work perfectly.
If you ever get to Chicago, I owe you lunch!!

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On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:47:13 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: probable #mh-related bug in pine v4.21
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jacob Morzinski wrote:
> > This check will fail on MH folders and on IMAP folders, both of
> > which can have a FCC folder which is a folder and is a directory.
>
> A patch which fixes only the problem with the FCC behavior is
> attached to this message. Note that a reading of the source
> suggests that there are more bugs related to pine's mis-handling
> of IMAP. It looks like "Tab" won't find unseen messages on imap
> servers, and going back to the folder list from an index listing
> is unable to keep track of the current folder when visiting imap
> folders. Additionally, the folder selector (^T, when trying to
> pick a place to save messages) just flat out Doesn't Work for
> people who are trying to save into IMAP -- it only lets them
> ascend and descend the heirarchy, and never lets them select a
> folder.
>
> Anyway, this patch fixes the fcc behavior, so that you can use a
> short-name fcc which pine will look for in your default
> collection for saves. (Previously, you had to specify the full
> path to your fcc folder.)
>
> Sincerely,
> Jacob Morzinski
>
> *** pine4.21/pine/send.c 2000/03/27 09:15:54 3.1
> --- pine4.21/pine/send.c 2000/04/02 20:11:56
> ***************
> *** 6022,6028 ****
> *fcc_cntxt = ps_global->context_list;
>
> build_folder_list(NULL, *fcc_cntxt, fcc, NULL, BFL_FLDRONLY);
> ! if(folder_index(fcc, *fcc_cntxt, FI_FOLDER) < 0){
> if(ps_global->context_list->next)
> sprintf(tmp_20k_buf,
> "Folder \"%.20s\" in <%.30s> doesn't exist. Create",
> --- 6022,6029 ----
> *fcc_cntxt = ps_global->context_list;
>
> build_folder_list(NULL, *fcc_cntxt, fcc, NULL, BFL_FLDRONLY);
> ! if(!(folder_exists(*fcc_cntxt, fcc) & FEX_ISFILE)
> ! || (folder_index(fcc, *fcc_cntxt, FI_ANY) < 0)){
> if(ps_global->context_list->next)
> sprintf(tmp_20k_buf,
> "Folder \"%.20s\" in <%.30s> doesn't exist. Create",

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We are currently using PINE 3.96 and AIX 4.3.3.
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Have you tried the AIX 4.1/4.2 binary on AIX 4.3.3? I don't know anything
about AIX except that the AIX Pine binary works on the slightly different
versions in use at the UW.

If it doesn't work, you can get the source and compile it yourself.

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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Denny Watkins wrote:

>
> We are currently using PINE 3.96 and AIX 4.3.3.
> Is there a Unix version of PINE 4.2.1 that will work at
> AIX 4.3.3? The only flavors of binaries is for AIX 4.2.
>
>
> Thanks,
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 [email protected] wrote:

> I've got a particular message (spam) that crashes when I answer the 'reply to
> all recipients' question (I'm trying to complain, and just use 'r' to
> start the reply that I send to all relevant parties). It happens every time.

Hi,

The crash that you've described is a known issue, and should be fixed in
subsequent releases. For the meantime, you can use the patch that I've
attached.

Thanks for alerting us of your problem.

Jeff

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Hello,

I'd like to add a per-address specific `Reply-To:' when
I compose mails. Suppose everytime I compose a mail to
pine-info I'd like the `Reply-To:' be set to `pine-info'
(so that I don't get the message twice). I tried two
things:
=B9) using an addressbook entry: this lets me using
the nick `pine' for `[email protected]'
but not specifying the `Reply-To:'.
=B9) using a role and the `#' instead of the `C' command.
this lets me defining the `Reply-To:', but I cannot
specify a `To:' there.

The ideal thing for me would be if typing `pine' would
enter the correct address *and* the correct Reply-to:
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

is this possible ? -- and how ?

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Pine has a problem with recursive symlinks (on Linux, could not reproduce it on FreeBSD):

To demonstrate:

Add a new user

Make a symlink, "ln -s ~ foobar"

Run pine to create the mail directory

exit pine

Go to $HOME/mail

Make a new symlink:

ln -s ~ foobar

Go to your home directory

Run pine, use "l"

This results in

test3@hoser test3]$ pine

Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
Pine Exiting.
[test3@hoser test3]$

Some of the last lines from the strace file:

open("/home/test3/mail/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/fo!
!
!
!
!
obar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar!
!
!
!
!
/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/Desktop/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/foobar/Desktop/Autostart", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---

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We are currently running PINE 4.21 on an IBM RS6000, running
AIX 4.3.3 unix.

I setup some filters to filter the incoming mail to
particular folders. My question is "Is there a way
that PINE can show which folders have new unread mail?"

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email protected]>
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*** Denny Watkins wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) We are currently running PINE 4.21 on an IBM RS6000, running
:) AIX 4.3.3 unix.
:)
:) I setup some filters to filter the incoming mail to particular
:) folders. My question is "Is there a way that PINE can show which
:) folders have new unread mail?"

It all depends on your settings. If you filter your incoming mail to
folders which are in the collection mail/[] (the one which contains your
sent-mail folder usually) then you can do something that resembles
that. Put the cursor in any folder in that collection and press the
following keys: ; P N (there is a menu in the bottom for more or
different options)

This will select all the folders that have "new" mail, including
sent-mail, which is not that exciting new mail after all.

If you, like me, setup an incoming-folders collection, whose folders
are not in the above mail/[] collection then you have two choices:

- Press the TAB key while in the INBOX, this will sequentially check for
new mail in each folder and if it finds new mail it will ask you to open
it or open it depending on some setting in your .pinerc file. You can
press TAB in any incoming-folder but it won't check the folders *before*
the one you have opened (it will go back to INBOX),unless you apply a
patch that I wrote which makes TAB go in circles in this collection.

- The other option is to have the process of pressing TAB automated,
which you can do if you apply a patch that I wrote, called "Check for New
Mail in Incoming Folders".

All the patches mentioned above can be found by following the link in
the signature of this e-mail.

As a last resource there are a number of programs that check for new
mail in specific folders, but this is done outside Pine. I do not have
more information about it, other than there existence.

I hope this helps.

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i believe this topic doesn't belong in the pine-info mailing list so the
answer has been posted to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup.

I can't take credit for this method of response, I stole it from John
Haverty.

aaron

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*** Aaron S. Hawley wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) i believe this topic doesn't belong in the pine-info mailing list so the
:) answer has been posted to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup.

Probably you are right, but there is not a moderator in this list, so we
better answer in this forum and not make duplicates of the threads.

:) I can't take credit for this method of response, I stole it from John
:) Haverty.

Probably you are refering to the question about setting a "Reply-To:"
header. That question was asked in both forums.

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*** Aaron Hawley ([email protected]) wrote today:

:) but WE are the moderators. also, oi really don't understand the duplicate
:) thread argument.
:)
This is a cut'n paste from http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/

The electronic mailing list Pine-Info covers features, bugs &
-> workarounds, usage, installation, customization and more pertaining to
the Pine software. While unmoderated, it is intended primarily for
discussion of matters of interest to systems/email administrators,
developers, trainers, user support personnel, and others involved with
Pine messaging on a "technical" level.

You see, you can ask questions about usage in the list.

The duplicate thread argument is the one that says that answers to the
same question will go to different forums, making it more difficult to
track if the question was answered, maybe because some people will only
check one forum before answering you'll have two times the same answer in
two different forums, each forum will have its own thread about the same
original question, etc. It's better to leave a thread related to pine (and
only to pine) in one forum and avoid duplication in my opinion.

On the other hand it is not always that clear that a question does not
qualify as a valid question before it is answered (it may happen that the
answer is "this is a bug", which I think it qualifies for this forum)

:)
:) i couldn't find the thread in the newsgroup. but my news server is having
:) trouble (IT dept is doing "maintenance").
:)

I see, that explains it. I did not find your answer either. I guess it
will be posted some moment later there.

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Hello, I'm using PC-Pine at work and am trying to find a better way to
transfer my sent-mail home to Eudora. Every so often I save my sent-mail
messages to my INBOX, then go home and Eudora will download them and place
them in the right folder, but remove enough header info such that the
send-date doesn't show up. There *must* be a better way..

Also, is there a way to *cheat* PC-Pine into letting me enter the program
and compose messages (and postpone them nutil I have a connection) w/o the
IMAP connection? I know pine stores postponed messages *and* the
addressbook locally, so..

Steve

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Hi, have a question and it has stumped me.

Where does pine get its fonts from? I have a user who uses a version of
pine from the network, and she had her pine set up her set printer font
and set window font to be the fixedsys font. When she tried to print,
it printed all garbled. When we switched her font to courier, she was
fine. Why is this font doing this to her print outs when it does not
affect any other users??

Any ideas would be great

Thanks
Amanda Young
Lambton College IT Helpdesk

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Is it possible to export a whole folder full of messages to a single
text-file for backup?

Steve

P.S. Oops, just checked and my PC-Pine functions a bit differently at
home. Where it hangs at work if the network is down, at home if I decline
the dailup prompt I can get in there and compose and all that. Sorry to
bug y'all 'bout that.

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*** Stephen Clay wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Is it possible to export a whole folder full of messages to a single
:) text-file for backup?

I don't think I understand your question. A folder is by definition a file
full of messages. You better backup through the command line.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote:

> :) Is it possible to export a whole folder full of messages to a single
> :) text-file for backup?
>
> I don't think I understand your question. A folder is by definition a file
> full of messages. You better backup through the command line.

Let's say I want to backup all my sent messages in plain-text
form. I know I can export a single message, but can I do this and have
the export target file appended so that *all* the messages in the
sent-mail folder go to *one* text file?

I know the mail folders must be stored w/ some sort of compression
because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.

Steve

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Stephen Clay wrote:

> > I don't think I understand your question. A folder is by definition a file
> > full of messages. You better backup through the command line.
>
> Let's say I want to backup all my sent messages in plain-text
> form. I know I can export a single message, but can I do this and have
> the export target file appended so that *all* the messages in the
> sent-mail folder go to *one* text file?
>
> I know the mail folders must be stored w/ some sort of compression
> because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.

On our UNIX system, the saved message folders (and named folders) are all
stored as plain ASCII files which can be read directly by word processors
(they are in the 'mail' sub-directory off my home directory).
The messages are not organized in the nice layout on the pine screen but
they are readable.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Stephen Clay wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote:
>
> > :) Is it possible to export a whole folder full of messages to a single
> > :) text-file for backup?
> >
> > I don't think I understand your question. A folder is by definition a file
> > full of messages. You better backup through the command line.
>
> Let's say I want to backup all my sent messages in plain-text
> form. I know I can export a single message, but can I do this and have
> the export target file appended so that *all* the messages in the
> sent-mail folder go to *one* text file?
>
> I know the mail folders must be stored w/ some sort of compression
> because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.

Depending on where your mail folders are stored, they may or may not be
accessible from the command line or via FTP. (For example, many IMAP
servers don't allow rsh, ssh, or FTP access.)

To export all the messages in a folder to a single text file, you can use
Pine's aggregate operations. First you have to enable them in Main,
Setup, Config. (I usually do a Whereis for "agg".) Then you can open the
folder, press ; to select, A to select All, then A to Apply a command, and
E to apply the Export command.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> To export all the messages in a folder to a single text file, you can use
> Pine's aggregate operations. First you have to enable them in Main,
> Setup, Config. (I usually do a Whereis for "agg".) Then you can open the
> folder, press ; to select, A to select All, then A to Apply a command, and
> E to apply the Export command.

Works perfectly. Thanks!

Steve

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The way I do it is slightly different - I select a list using ";" then
choose the Apply command, Forward, and choose "yes" to "forward as mime
journal?" prompt. it becomes one file
=09A question of my own - how to attach another email message to one
I'm composing; I tried ^T, went to my sent mail folder, but it would only
attach the entire folder, not let me open it and select a message.
Suggestions? Thanks

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*** Jim Worthington wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) A question of my own - how to attach another email message to one
:) I'm composing; I tried ^T, went to my sent mail folder, but it would only
:) attach the entire folder, not let me open it and select a message.
:) Suggestions? Thanks

You can not attach a message, unless of course you export it first, and
then attach the exported file. However, you can always include, in the
message, other messages in the same folder you are using to compose. You
need to know, however, the number of that message. Press ^R^W to do so.

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I have a program if you are interested called stripmail if you would like
that one.

On 2000-04-13 [email protected] said:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Stephen Clay wrote:
> > I don't think I understand your question. A folder is by
>definition a file > full of messages. You better backup through
the command line. >
> Let's say I want to backup all my sent messages in plain-text
> form. I know I can export a single message, but can I do this
>and have the export target file appended so that *all* the
>messages in the sent-mail folder go to *one* text file?
> I know the mail folders must be stored w/ some sort of compression
> because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.
On our UNIX system, the saved message folders (and named folders)
are all stored as plain ASCII files which can be read directly by
word processors (they are in the 'mail' sub-directory off my home
directory). The messages are not organized in the nice layout on
the pine screen but they are readable.
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote:

> *** Jim Worthington wrote in the pine-info list today:
>
> :) A question of my own - how to attach another email message to one
> :) I'm composing; I tried ^T, went to my sent mail folder, but it would only
> :) attach the entire folder, not let me open it and select a message.
> :) Suggestions? Thanks
>
> You can not attach a message, unless of course you export it first, and
> then attach the exported file. However, you can always include, in the
> message, other messages in the same folder you are using to compose. You
> need to know, however, the number of that message. Press ^R^W to do so.

If you enable full headers (press H) and then forward a message you get a
prompt as to whether you want to forward as an attachment.

jb

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Does anyone have experience converting pine addressbooks
(Global) to other formats, such as Outlook Express and
Netscape?

I have seen a web page that will convert pine to Netscape, etc.

How good are they? Is there an easier way to do the conversion?

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..(and an address book).

First to the developers and pine hard core's. Great job. I thought all
email apps sucked, until I had a fresh look at pine about 6 months ago.
(and no I'm not using pine to right this.)

Generally I don't ask for help from a community I haven't contributed
to, but I am really stuck on this.

I have a situation where I access several IMAP accounts and an address
book in one account. I use pine 4.21 on linux with LDAP support and
IMAP password storage support. This machine is my desktop machine so
the password storage is not as insecure on a multi user machine.

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Not entirely sure what your question is, but the best way to set up
multiple Inboxes from Multiple accounts is to use
Incoming-folders. Enable them in Setup, Config, then add listings for
each one, using the {mail.server.com/user=username}INBOX.or.whatever
syntax.

For IMAP-accessible address books, check out
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#abookIMAP - it's written for
PC Pine, but this part is the same on both platforms.

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Stewart James wrote:

> ...(and an address book).
>
> First to the developers and pine hard core's. Great job. I thought all
> email apps sucked, until I had a fresh look at pine about 6 months ago.
> (and no I'm not using pine to right this.)
>
> Generally I don't ask for help from a community I haven't contributed
> to, but I am really stuck on this.
>
> I have a situation where I access several IMAP accounts and an address
> book in one account. I use pine 4.21 on linux with LDAP support and
> IMAP password storage support. This machine is my desktop machine so
> the password storage is not as insecure on a multi user machine.
>
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Hi again,

Thanks to people who responded. Sorry for any confusion. It was an issue
with pine remembering passwords for who had trouble with my late night
ramble.

I do not know why, and have not investigated further, but the problem was
related to the IMAP address book, or it is just as likely it was just
_me_. In case it was not just me, I will try and outline where I think the
problem was.

When I created a personal IMAP address book, I entered the imapserver as
imap.server/user=sjames this did not work and pine could not initialise
the address book. I took the /user=sjames out of the address book and it
worked fine.

This morning I thought, hey I'll see if the user= will work in the address
book again. And, it worked. I was thinking there is a possible problem
here, related to imap address book initialization and the user=UID IMAP
attribute. How ever as I have said, the other (even more likely) is it was
just _me_.

Again thanks for the help, I'll just sit back and watch the list now. Let
me also apoligise for any I'm away messages people may have recieved
replying to me. Forgot to switch it off. (oops)

Cheers,

Stewart

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Currently we have users logging into a system that runs sendmail. Users run pine 4.04 from a shell like usual. All is well. We will be moving mail service to an independent carrier grade server, no more /var/mail/. User shell accounts will stay on the old system. The users who want to continue to use pine will need to be able to collect mail from the new system.

I know I can use pine.conf.fixed to control the configuration that users use. The problem is that I did a test where I added the new server to the collectionList and the result was not what I expected.

Nicname : foo
Server : foo.bar.com
Path :
view :

The first problem is that Pine asks for username and password for every action. The second problem is that the folders are listed twice, once with foldername and a second time with foldername/. The third problem is that I can't get messages from the inbox.

Has anyone handled this situation in the past?
Is there another way to set this up?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

James Paul

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Hi Leslie,

This brings up a quesiton I have. I have a modem that I can't get to work
in DOS, ahtough it's supposed to do so. However, I have fould some ways
aroudn this. I use a console telnet program to get to my shell account
from my PPP account. I also use Lynx32 at times. Is PcPine for Windows a
console application or strictly Windows?

I want to do this because I bought an old Navigator for a very good price,
and I still use DOS for some things.

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Someone put this in bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ -
our bugtracking system), and asked for it to be forwarded as he claims
[email protected] (the address on the pine web page) to be
bouncing.

************************************************************************
Pine 4.10 has a message sorting function on the index screen, accessed =
with=20
the '$' command. However, there is a problem with the 'F' (From) subop=
tion=20
in that it tends to intermingle different senders together.

Looking at the "From:" lines in the messages in question, I would susp=
ect=20
that it is actually sorting by the sender's username (the part of the =
email=20
address prior to the '@' character), and doesn't have any means of=20
separating different people with the same username.

As an example of this, take messages from the following users:

Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Modra <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>

I currently have a pine session running with the Linux-Kernel emails s=
orted=20
by "From", and those three names occur intermingled as follows:

Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Modra <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Cox <[email protected]>
Alan Modra <[email protected]>

That's just choosing a small section thereof - I have nearly 100 email=
s=20
from Alan Cox in total. However, the only thing they all have in commo=
n is=20
that the sender's username is "alan" as stated above.

Can I suggest that this be changed to use the full email address when=
=20
sorting, rather than the current broken behaviour?

Also, can somebody with the ability to do so please forward this to th=
e=20
pine development team for comments, as I can't find any means for me t=
o=20
contact them !!!=20
************************************************************************
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Trond Eivind Glomsr=F8d
Red Hat, Inc.
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Hi,

after upgrading our sun machine, and successfully lost our systemwide pine
config file, we discoveder that pine asks for username and password every
time it accesses a folder. (including when sending mail and writing fcc to
sent-mail).

Is there a possibility to configure pine to chache the passwords in a
session ?

Thanx,

Csaba TOTH

It may be important to notice that the user login names changed in the way
that now users have to log in whith $username+$domain instead of
$username. (the '+' sign is part of the login name)

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Subject: Problem with sentmail and IMAP
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Here's the situation:

PCPine 4.21. Only collection is "Mail" on server mail.xxxxxx.net, an IMAP4
server.

Initially, there are no folders on the IMAP server, except for my INBOX.

I compose and send one message, and it says that my sentmail folder does not
exist, do you wish to create it. I answer yes, and it creates it. I check
to see if the message gets saved, and it does.

I attempt to send another message, and it again says that my sentmail folder
does not exist, even though it does. Obviously I get an error when I tell
it to create the folder again.

Does anyone know about this problem? What I am I doing wrong?

Christopher J. Pilkington
Supervisor of Technical Services
GHI HMO Select Inc.
Phone: +1 914 340-2341
Fax: +1 914 334-8950
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This sounds like the same problem that Jacob Morzinski from MIT sent me
a patch for 3 weeks ago. Here's his message, along with his patch. It
worked for both him and me...

Mike Stolz ([email protected])
---------------------------------------------------

*** *** ***

>From [email protected] Thu Apr 20 12:24:32 2000
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:47:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jacob Morzinski <[email protected]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: probable #mh-related bug in pine v4.21

On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jacob Morzinski wrote:
> This check will fail on MH folders and on IMAP folders, both of
> which can have a FCC folder which is a folder and is a directory.

A patch which fixes only the problem with the FCC behavior is
attached to this message. Note that a reading of the source
suggests that there are more bugs related to pine's mis-handling
of IMAP. It looks like "Tab" won't find unseen messages on imap
servers, and going back to the folder list from an index listing
is unable to keep track of the current folder when visiting imap
folders. Additionally, the folder selector (^T, when trying to
pick a place to save messages) just flat out Doesn't Work for
people who are trying to save into IMAP -- it only lets them
ascend and descend the heirarchy, and never lets them select a
folder.

Anyway, this patch fixes the fcc behavior, so that you can use a
short-name fcc which pine will look for in your default
collection for saves. (Previously, you had to specify the full
path to your fcc folder.)

Sincerely,
Jacob Morzinski

*** pine4.21/pine/send.c 2000/03/27 09:15:54 3.1
--- pine4.21/pine/send.c 2000/04/02 20:11:56
***************
*** 6022,6028 ****
*fcc_cntxt = ps_global->context_list;

build_folder_list(NULL, *fcc_cntxt, fcc, NULL, BFL_FLDRONLY);
! if(folder_index(fcc, *fcc_cntxt, FI_FOLDER) < 0){
if(ps_global->context_list->next)
sprintf(tmp_20k_buf,
"Folder \"%.20s\" in <%.30s> doesn't exist. Create",
--- 6022,6029 ----
*fcc_cntxt = ps_global->context_list;

build_folder_list(NULL, *fcc_cntxt, fcc, NULL, BFL_FLDRONLY);
! if(!(folder_exists(*fcc_cntxt, fcc) & FEX_ISFILE)
! || (folder_index(fcc, *fcc_cntxt, FI_ANY) < 0)){
if(ps_global->context_list->next)
sprintf(tmp_20k_buf,
"Folder \"%.20s\" in <%.30s> doesn't exist. Create",

** ** ** ** ** ** **
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote:

> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:19:33 -0400
> From: Christopher J. Pilkington <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Problem with sentmail and IMAP
>
> Here's the situation:
>
> PCPine 4.21. Only collection is "Mail" on server mail.xxxxxx.net, an IMAP4
> server.
>
> Initially, there are no folders on the IMAP server, except for my INBOX.
>
> I compose and send one message, and it says that my sentmail folder does not
> exist, do you wish to create it. I answer yes, and it creates it. I check
> to see if the message gets saved, and it does.
>
> I attempt to send another message, and it again says that my sentmail folder
> does not exist, even though it does. Obviously I get an error when I tell
> it to create the folder again.
>
> Does anyone know about this problem? What I am I doing wrong?
>
> Christopher J. Pilkington
> Supervisor of Technical Services
> GHI HMO Select Inc.
> Phone: +1 914 340-2341
> Fax: +1 914 334-8950
> E-mail: [email protected]
>
>
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Have you tried putting in the /user= flag? For example,
{your.imap.server.com/user=$username+$domain}INBOX might work. I've never
dealt with that kind of username, though, so I don't know for sure.

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Toth Csaba wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> after upgrading our sun machine, and successfully lost our systemwide pine
> config file, we discoveder that pine asks for username and password every
> time it accesses a folder. (including when sending mail and writing fcc to
> sent-mail).
>
> Is there a possibility to configure pine to chache the passwords in a
> session ?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Csaba TOTH
>
> It may be important to notice that the user login names changed in the way
> that now users have to log in whith $username+$domain instead of
> $username. (the '+' sign is part of the login name)
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Has anyone experienced this problem and maybe have a hint as to what the
fix may be. We are running Pine 4.21 with Solaris 7. We have installed the
recommended patches. We see this happening on low to medium load. The
error in Pine is 'formatting scroll text 80%' (the percentage is not
always the same). Pine then freezes. You could be in Pine doing anything
when the error occurs. It seems to be happening more frequently and
frequently, especially seeming to happen at a lower load.

Our analyst has done a Truss and this is what he is seeing.
The symptoms are similar in that the functions called are the same
but the address arguments are different. The return values are the same
except for time (of course). He is attempting to rule out hardware
problems. Below is an example of the output from Truss. Any ideas?

Script started on Tue Apr 18 09:28:00 2000
mcmail# truss -p 8016
Received signal #14, SIGALRM, in poll() [caught]
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) Err#91 ERESTART
time() = 956064507
sigaction(SIGALRM, 0xFFBE7FA0, 0xFFBE80C4) = 0
alarm(1) = 0
setcontext(0xFFBE8370)
Received signal #14, SIGALRM, in poll() [caught]
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) Err#91 ERESTART
time() = 956064508
sigaction(SIGALRM, 0xFFBE7FA0, 0xFFBE80C4) = 0
alarm(1) = 0
setcontext(0xFFBE8370)
Received signal #14, SIGALRM, in poll() [caught]
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) Err#91 ERESTART
time() = 956064509
sigaction(SIGALRM, 0xFFBE7FA0, 0xFFBE80C4) = 0
alarm(1) = 0
setcontext(0xFFBE8370)
Received signal #14, SIGALRM, in poll() [caught]
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) Err#91 ERESTART
time() = 956064510
sigaction(SIGALRM, 0xFFBE7FA0, 0xFFBE80C4) = 0
alarm(1) = 0
setcontext(0xFFBE8370)
Received signal #14, SIGALRM, in poll() [caught]
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) Err#91 ERESTART
time() = 956064511
sigaction(SIGALRM, 0xFFBE7FA0, 0xFFBE80C4) = 0
alarm(1) = 0
setcontext(0xFFBE8370)
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) (sleeping...)
Received signal #14, SIGALRM, in poll() [caught]
poll(0xFFBE8714, 1, 5000) Err#91 ERESTART
time() = 956064512
sigaction(SIGALRM, 0xFFBE7FA0, 0xFFBE80C4) = 0
alarm(1) = 0

Ad nauseum

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Hello,

I have a question about the usage of the #public/ collection list. I
would like to share information with other people through this collection
list, however I have the following problems:

- If I give protection 1777 to this directory every user can create/erase
folders in this collection list, which I do not want. If I do not give
this protection Pine complains about the vulnerable mailbox.

- If the folders in this collection have write permission every user can
delete any message they'd like there. I consider this undesirable, since
what I would like is that the user be only able to read messages there,
but if I give only read permissions to the folder, then pine gives some
error messages, which I would not like to give (I would like to enter to
the folder without "errors" or "warning" messages)

What I want is:

- To create a collection list, which be public, but where users can only
have read access to the files in that collection and that pine don't give
me any error messages about vulnerability or otherwise. I would like to
have #public/ to have protection 755 as also the folders in it and that
Pine don't complain about it. Is it there any way to do this? Thanks.

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Dear Fellow Listers,
I can not provide an answer to Christopher's problem, but I have something
similar, and have found no understanding of it.
I have pine v4.20, the Unix pine, installed. Until the end of
1999, sent-mail worked fine and prompted me every time at the beginning of
the month. Since January, this did not happen initially. I got the
prompt for deleting previous month's messages on January 16. I answered
no, and ever since, I gt no sent-mail deletions at the beginning of
February, March, and April. As I am not a very technical person, what I
did was go to "pruned-messages" on the config menu, and typed sent-mail,
but I do not know whether this is going to work on May 1.
If anyone understands the problem, could he/she be so kind as let
me know what I should do?
With Best Regards,
Panagiotis

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Hello,

our problem is the following: mailboxes have been moved from one
machine to the other. In sent-mail folders Pine now list for the
"old" letters not the recipients' name, instead the address in the From
field. (It think because it is the first address found in the header not
identical to the local machine's name). However we still would like to see
the to: addresses in sent-mail folders. How can we overcome this problem?
Any help is greatly appreciated,

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let me get this straight, mail was moved to another machine, which has a
different server name. therefore everyone has new email addresses? thus
pine is incorrectly displaying messages (or not to your liking).

i think the answer is configuring alt-addresses

On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Garamszegi Karoly wrote:

> Hello,
>
> our problem is the following: mailboxes have been moved from one
> machine to the other. In sent-mail folders Pine now list for the "old"
> letters not the recipients' name, instead the address in the From
> field. (It think because it is the first address found in the header
> not identical to the local machine's name). However we still would
> like to see the to: addresses in sent-mail folders. How can we
> overcome this problem? Any help is greatly appreciated,

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*** Aaron S. Hawley wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) i think the answer is configuring alt-addresses

I think this is the right idea. You can use an environment variable (say
$USER) to help you this. In the file /usr/local/bin/pine.conf add to the
alt-addresses something like

alt-addresses=${USER}@new.mail.server

This will solve the problem for anyone who has this value undefined.
However, for those that have it defined (non-empty) this will not help
them, they'll have to add it manually by themselves.

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I've never really looked at the source code, either, but I know there are
quite a few people who have. So I'm forwarding this to pine-info@cac and
comp.mail.pine for others to take a look at.

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From: Toth Csaba <[email protected]>
To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: pine asks for passwd every IMAP folder access

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Scott Leibrand wrote:

Nope, it didn't help.

Maybe pine doesn't store the full name (because of length limitation, or
separator character).

When I commented out the "!strcmp(user, l->user)" part of the condition
from the code where pine searches for match in the history (file imap.c
line 1531, pine 4.21), it behaves the way I wanted. However this might
affect other functions. Unfortunately I'm not skilled enough to fully
understand the code. :(

Thanx for your help.

Csaba

:-Have you tried putting in the /user= flag? For example,
:-{your.imap.server.com/user=$username+$domain}INBOX might work. I've never
:-dealt with that kind of username, though, so I don't know for sure.
:-
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:-On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Toth Csaba wrote:
:-
:->
:-> Hi,
:->
:-> after upgrading our sun machine, and successfully lost our systemwide pine
:-> config file, we discoveder that pine asks for username and password every
:-> time it accesses a folder. (including when sending mail and writing fcc to
:-> sent-mail).
:->
:-> Is there a possibility to configure pine to chache the passwords in a
:-> session ?
:->
:-> Thanx,
:->
:-> Csaba TOTH
:->
:-> It may be important to notice that the user login names changed in the way
:-> that now users have to log in whith $username+$domain instead of
:-> $username. (the '+' sign is part of the login name)
:->
:->
:->
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote:

> Here's the situation:
>
> PCPine 4.21. Only collection is "Mail" on server mail.xxxxxx.net, an IMAP4
> server.
>
> Initially, there are no folders on the IMAP server, except for my INBOX.
>
> I compose and send one message, and it says that my sentmail folder does not
> exist, do you wish to create it. I answer yes, and it creates it. I check
> to see if the message gets saved, and it does.
>
> I attempt to send another message, and it again says that my sentmail folder
> does not exist, even though it does. Obviously I get an error when I tell
> it to create the folder again.
>
> Does anyone know about this problem? What I am I doing wrong?

I posted a little patch for this a while ago; the problem is that Pine
occasionally assumes that it's working with a repository that cannot
have a folder and a directory with the same name. Using something like
cyrus will cause all sorts of little problems like this:

- sentmail doesn't exist, etc. problems
- tabbing through incoming folders doesn't work
- ^T on the 'save to' will not let you select folders

the last problem goes away if you don't fold directories and folders
into one for display (ie, "foldername[.]") - unfortunately, that little
visual improvement makes the latest pine worth using.

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Hello -

New subscriber to the list. Also a newbie to Linux RH 6.1 - now that's
out of the way.

I have been trying to use Pine as my email program. I can send
messages, but for some reason I cannot receive messages. I am presently
using Netscape's email program and have no problem receiving messages.
Can someone help me or at least point me in the right dirtection? I
REALLY like Pine and would like to use it.

Thanks you,

Dick Williams

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A good place to start is http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#uw

If you want to provide specifics, someone here will be able to provide a
more detailed response.

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Dick Williams wrote:

> Hello -
>
> New subscriber to the list. Also a newbie to Linux RH 6.1 - now that's
> out of the way.
>
> I have been trying to use Pine as my email program. I can send
> messages, but for some reason I cannot receive messages. I am presently
> using Netscape's email program and have no problem receiving messages.
> Can someone help me or at least point me in the right dirtection? I
> REALLY like Pine and would like to use it.
>
> Thanks you,
>
> Dick Williams
>
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As I said, I am new to Linux usinfg RH 6.1. Some folks mentioned I should
install *fetchmail* and then configure *fetchmailconf* - well, I'm lost.
According to gnome rpm fetchmail is already installed. I verified this. I
tried to configure it thru the menu in Pine, but still no messages. I don;t
really know what specifics you are looking for. I'm not computer iliterate,
just suffering from 13 years of Microsoft domination......I learn this Linux
stuff sooner or later. :)

Regards.

Dick

> A good place to start is http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#uw
>
> If you want to provide specifics, someone here will be able to provide a
> more detailed response.
>
> --
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> http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
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>
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Dick Williams wrote:
>
> > Hello -
> >
> > New subscriber to the list. Also a newbie to Linux RH 6.1 - now that's
> > out of the way.
> >
> > I have been trying to use Pine as my email program. I can send
> > messages, but for some reason I cannot receive messages. I am presently
> > using Netscape's email program and have no problem receiving messages.
> > Can someone help me or at least point me in the right dirtection? I
> > REALLY like Pine and would like to use it.
> >
> > Thanks you,
> >
> > Dick Williams
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
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Hello,

Is there a way to have multiple colors in a window title ?
Example:

in xterm I can use
echo "<esc>]2;fred <ctrl-g>"
to get the window title `fred'.

I'd like to have something like
echo "<esc>]2;fred <red>lola</red><ctrl-g>"
where <red> is an escape sequence to turn red on.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Johannes Zellner <[email protected]> wrote:
>Is there a way to have multiple colors in a window title ?
[...]
>in xterm I can use
> echo "<esc>]2;fred <ctrl-g>"
>to get the window title `fred'.

Xterms are not able to use colors or other escape sequences in
the title -- only simple text.

Regards,
Jacob Morzinski [email protected]

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We are currently running PINE 4.21 on an IBM RS6000, running
AIX 4.3.3 unix.

We recently ugraded PINE from 3.96 to 4.21.

In some of the folder indexes, I sometimes get the following:

19 Apr 27 Julie Callon (1,284) ATTENTION SENIORS
20 Apr 27 Dusty Johnson (1,157) MAC Drive in movie
tomorrow!!!!!!
21 Apr 27 Mail System Internal (509) DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE --
FOLDER INTERNA
22 Apr 27 Mail System Internal (509) DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE --
FOLDER INTERNA
23 Apr 27 Breneisen Jennifer C (1,002) Kid For a Day
24 Apr 27 Mail System Internal (509) DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE --
FOLDER INTERNA

What causes the DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNA to get in the
folder
more than once?

I have gone as far as to 'mv saved-messages saved-messages-old' at the Unix
level.
and then save any new messages to 'saved-messages' and the
DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNA still gets in the folder more
than once.

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This should be simple. I'm running linux on a home PC with PINE 4.10
installed which I'd like to set up for usenet access. Everything
appears to be in place except for a small hangup. Somehow I need to
give PINE the userid that the remote news server is expecting when I
attempt a connection. Right now the program assumes that the userid
matches that found in the local /etc/password file. Thus I can't
connect to the news server.

I've perused all of the documentation I can find on my system and the
web and have made all of the changes/overrides in the ~/.pinerc and
/etc/pine-conf files that seem to apply but to no avail. I'm stumped.

Any assistance or direction to the appropriate documentation will be
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Try the /user= flag. So it'd look something like
{your.news.server.com/user=username/nntp}

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 [email protected] wrote:

> This should be simple. I'm running linux on a home PC with PINE 4.10
> installed which I'd like to set up for usenet access. Everything
> appears to be in place except for a small hangup. Somehow I need to
> give PINE the userid that the remote news server is expecting when I
> attempt a connection. Right now the program assumes that the userid
> matches that found in the local /etc/password file. Thus I can't
> connect to the news server.
>
> I've perused all of the documentation I can find on my system and the
> web and have made all of the changes/overrides in the ~/.pinerc and
> /etc/pine-conf files that seem to apply but to no avail. I'm stumped.
>
> Any assistance or direction to the appropriate documentation will be
> appreciated.
>
> Kevin
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Thank you. That did the trick. Another question I have, Is it
possible to limit the number of postings from a news group to, say, the
most recent 100? I'm sure I've seen the detail on this somewhere but
can't find it now.

Kevin

On 27 Apr, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> Try the /user= flag. So it'd look something like
> {your.news.server.com/user=username/nntp}
>

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You can enable-aggregate-command-set and then press ; to select messages
by certain criteria, but I don't think you can automatically exclude old
messages without first deleting them (or doing the same thing manually in
the .newsrc).

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 [email protected] wrote:

> Thank you. That did the trick. Another question I have, Is it
> possible to limit the number of postings from a news group to, say, the
> most recent 100? I'm sure I've seen the detail on this somewhere but
> can't find it now.

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Ok, I've been reading about that, too. I'll just have to deal with the
1000+ postings from the groups I'm interested in. Thanks again.

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