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On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Raghavendra Kulkarni wrote:

> I am working on machine X.
> My mails are on machine Y.

If you have an IMAP server running on Y, it takes a couple
of definitions in your .pinerc on X (I'm assuming both X and
Y are Unix machines). For example:

inbox-path={Y.mumble.in:143}INBOX
incoming-folders=/usr/spool/mail/$USER
folder-collections={Y.mumble.in:143}[],
mail/[]

would tell Pine that it's INBOX is on an IMAP server on
Y.mumble.in, a second INBOX is in usr/spool/mail on
X.mumble.in, and both machines have folder collections.

If you don't have an IMAP server on Y, convince your system
administrator to bring one up. I recently installed the
imapd that comes with Pine 4.10 on one of our Tru 64 Unix
machines (aka Digital Unix (aka OSF/1)) and have no
complaints so far. :-) I also access e-mail on a GroupWise
(aka GroupStupid) IMAP server but it has... issues... and I
can't recommend it. :-(

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I am using PC-Pine 4.05 with an IMAP server. No problems until yesterday,
when I find I am unable to delete messags from the INBOX. If I execute an
EXPUNGE, I get:

EXPUNGE failed: Checkpoint file failure: No space left on device

same when exiting PINE, nothing is deleted and another Checkpoint file
failure occurs.

I tried deleting files from the server to make some space--no help.

Any ideas what this is??

Chris Martin
University of North Carolina

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I'm trying to find ways to import address books into Pine. Bascially I want
to run a list from a database with email addresses and names (these will
probably be comma or semicolon separated text files) and import them into
the pine address book. Is this possible? If so, how do I go about it? Is
there a certain number of fields that I need to worry about (i.e. nickname,
name, email address, fcc, comments) or can I define the number of fields to
input? Thanks for the help!

Peace,
Jeff at Youth Encounter
[email protected]
www.youthencounter.org

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We do this on a nightly basis by running a script that uses 'awk' on our
/etc/passwd file and creates a tab delimited addressbook file. It then
does a 'pine -create_lu yourfilename nickname' to create the global
addressbook. Works like a charm.

================================================================================
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Director of System and Network Management P.O. Box 1773
[email protected] Carlisle, PA 17013
Phone: (717) 245-1256
FAX: (717) 245-1690

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jeff Rowdon wrote:

> I'm trying to find ways to import address books into Pine. Bascially I want
> to run a list from a database with email addresses and names (these will
> probably be comma or semicolon separated text files) and import them into
> the pine address book. Is this possible? If so, how do I go about it? Is
> there a certain number of fields that I need to worry about (i.e. nickname,
> name, email address, fcc, comments) or can I define the number of fields to
> input? Thanks for the help!
>
> Peace,
> Jeff at Youth Encounter
> [email protected]
> www.youthencounter.org
>
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Is there any way that I could save messages in folders on disks?

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* Xiaoling Mo <[email protected]> writes:
> Is there any way that I could save messages in folders on disks?

man mcopy
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I can invoke pico with "-m" and it gives me a mouse.
What about pine ?

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On Fri, 3 Oct 2014, Ilia Chipitsine wrote:

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> I can invoke pico with "-m" and it gives me a mouse.
> What about pine ?
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I assume you are referring to pine on UNIX? If so, it will provide mouse
support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is
defined.

In fact, our telnet product for Windows, called Anzio, supports this featur=
e,
giving you mouse support from your Windows PC to a Unix-based Pine.

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Pine has a feature called "enable-mouse-in-xterm".

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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Bob Rasmussen wrote:

>
> I assume you are referring to pine on UNIX? If so, it will provide mouse

Yes, I am. I'm using FreeBSD. I also have X, and DISPLAY variable.
Mouse is still not working with pine.

> support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is

Yes, I'm using xterm.

> defined.
>
> In fact, our telnet product for Windows, called Anzio, supports this feature,
> giving you mouse support from your Windows PC to a Unix-based Pine.

I'm rather interested in Windows-based SSH-client with that feature :-)

Regards,
Ilia Chipitsine

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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote:

> Yes, I am. I'm using FreeBSD. I also have X, and DISPLAY variable.
> Mouse is still not working with pine.
>
> > support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is
>
> Yes, I'm using xterm.

Ok, did you
[X] enable-mouse-in-xterm
enable it in setup/config?

FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm

This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with
Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is
being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text
or commands.

Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is
also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking
left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations.

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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote:

> > In fact, our telnet product for Windows, called Anzio, supports this
> > feature, giving you mouse support from your Windows PC to a
> > Unix-based Pine.
>
> I'm rather interested in Windows-based SSH-client with that feature :-)

I know that VanDyke (http://www.vandyke.com/) has this feature in their
telnet software product (CRT). They also have a product called SecureCRT
that probably does what you want. Check their web page.

Regards,

Mike

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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, David Dyck wrote:

>
> On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote:
>
> > Yes, I am. I'm using FreeBSD. I also have X, and DISPLAY variable.
> > Mouse is still not working with pine.
> >
> > > support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is
> >
> > Yes, I'm using xterm.
>
> Ok, did you
> [X] enable-mouse-in-xterm
> enable it in setup/config?

that did it. Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Ilia Chipitsine

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*** Eduardo Chappa L. ([email protected]) wrote on Sep 22, 1999:

:) *** Bino Gopal ([email protected]) wrote on Sep 20, 1999:
:)
:) :) Well, this isn't a bug though more of a feture request:
:) :)
:) :) Is it possible, in the 'Narrow' function, to allow selection of 'NOT'
:) :) things? I want to be able to select messages from a mailing list, and
:) :) then pick the ones that DON'T have 'router' in the subject. This would be
:) :) a REALLY, TRULY, useful feature! If this example doesn't convince you,
:) :) see the more detailed one below.
:)
:) I wrote a patch for doing something very similar to this for
:) *local folders*, you can select messages according to not containing a

I finally could learn how to talk to the server and the patch works now
for incoming folders. The solution was so easy that I am surprised nobody
taught me before. Anyway, take the patch from the address below.

Have a nice day,

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine

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I just upgraded to pine 4.10 from pine 3.96 (linux). I needed the new
version for its ability to change the From.

The old version was fine as a newsreader. Now, though, pine is incredibly
slow reading in a list of messages like this:
-> 1 Sep 28 Gregor J Jones (1,957) Re: conversion from .eml to elm
2 Sep 30 Charles Prestopine (1,410) Automating Pine in Script
3 Sep 30 Steve Hubert (1,843) Re: Changing the "So and so
4 Sep 30 Jeffrey Goldberg (1,740) Re: 3.96 vs. 4.10?
5 Sep 30 Aaron S. Hawley (1,173) pc-pine and PGP
6 Oct 1 Aaron S. Hawley (2,286) pc-pine and PGP (filter and
7 Oct 1 Eduardo Chappa L. (1,846) Re: pc-pine and PGP (filter and
8 Oct 2 Aaron S. Hawley (2,214) Re: pc-pine and PGP (filter and
9 Oct 4 J. Rieling (1,164) Re: pc-pine and PGP (filter and
10 Oct 1 Marco Fare' (1,061) rsh timeout
11 Oct 2 Mark Derricutt (1,189) KPine - Pine for KDE

It used to be almost instant. Now it is so slow as to make pine unusable
as a newsreader. I still have pine 3.96 installed, and it still works
fine--nice and quick.

I looked at the 4.10 setup configuration. It is quite different layout in
there now.

Near the top there used to be something like:
news-collections = <No Value Set: using "*{news.gcal.ac.uk/nntp}[]">

I can't find this any more. Maybe this is related to my problem?

Thanks very much for any help!

Bill

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I attach my .pinerc file. Maybe the problem is hidden there?
Thanks very much for any help.

Bill

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To Pine Members,

I am a novice to computers and PINE. I find it difficult to open
attachments sent by friends.
For example when the attachment index says as follows

" [Part 2, Application/MS-TNEF 3.8KB]

[Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in
the screen.

- I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the
screen

" 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN
2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF "

Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:-

"Copy attachment to file in home directory:
^G Help ^T To Files
^C Cancel Ret Accept
SAVE ATTACHMENT FILE BROWSER Dir:
/home1/users/ashwanth/home"

When I press >T To Files the following message appears.
"
. (parent dir) mail (dir)
#pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB
&brand=xcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB
core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB"

Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do?

It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says
"Unknown format hence cannot be opened."

Will any one HELP ? Ashwanth Fernando

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Hi Ashwanth!

u can not display attachments directly in Pine, u've done well in saving.

**to have a look at your attachments fill in this URL:

ftp://ashwanth@giasmda.vsnl.net.in

it will open a PW Entry Dialog, fill in your PW, here u are.

**another way is over the WS_FTP9Pro as we use it also at the university:

open the program and fill in.
here u also can edit your account.

hope it helps u and best regards Christina

> For example when the attachment index says as follows=20
>=20
> " [Part 2, Application/MS-TNEF 3.8KB]
>=20
> [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in
> the screen.
>=20
> - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the
> screen
>=20
>=20
>=20
> " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN
> 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF "
>=20
> Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:-
>=20
> "Copy attachment to file in home directory:
> ^G Help ^T To Files
> ^C Cancel Ret Accept
> SAVE ATTACHMENT FILE BROWSER Dir:
> /home1/users/ashwanth/home"
>=20
> When I press >T To Files the following message appears.
> "
> .. (parent dir) mail (dir)
> #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB
> &brand=3DxcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB
> core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB"
>=20
> Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do?
>=20
> It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says
> "Unknown format hence cannot be opened."
>=20
> Will any one HELP ? Ashwanth Fernando
>=20
> --=20
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On Oct 9, 1999 at 18:03, ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote:

> I am a novice to computers and PINE. I find it difficult to open
> attachments sent by friends.
> For example when the attachment index says as follows

['attachment index' (actually message display?) snipped]

> [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in
> the screen.
>
> - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the
> screen

Correct.

> " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN
> 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF "
>
> Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:-
>
> "Copy attachment to file in home directory:
>
> When I press >T To Files the following message appears.

No. Put the cursor on the correct attachment and press S. You may edit the
filename.

> .. (parent dir) mail (dir)
> #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB
> &brand=xcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB
> core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB"
>
> Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do?

Note that your home directory is slightly screwed up. Remove the core dump
and quit saving files with spaces in them. VSNL's rksh won't let you
delete (or even access) them. This is getting off-topic.

> It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says
> "Unknown format hence cannot be opened."

Yes. It can only open certain types of files (mime.types, anyone?)

--
Satya.
http://satyaonline.cjb.net/

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On Oct 9, 1999 at 22:17, Christina Brand wrote:

> **to have a look at your attachments fill in this URL:
>
> ftp://ashwanth@giasmda.vsnl.net.in
>
> it will open a PW Entry Dialog, fill in your PW, here u are.

Except that VSNL doesn't allow ftp access to the home directories.

Mr. Fernando is probably using a dialup shell account with India's VSNL
ISP and using rksh. Many things are not possible.

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Dear Satya,
Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes mine is a shell account. Now I know its
limitations. Thanks, Ashwanth Fernando

On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Satya wrote:

> On Oct 9, 1999 at 18:03, ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote:
>
> > I am a novice to computers and PINE. I find it difficult to open
> > attachments sent by friends.
> > For example when the attachment index says as follows
>
> ['attachment index' (actually message display?) snipped]
>
> > [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in
> > the screen.
> >
> > - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the
> > screen
>
> Correct.
>
> > " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN
> > 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF "
> >
> > Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:-
> >
> > "Copy attachment to file in home directory:
> >
> > When I press >T To Files the following message appears.
>
> No. Put the cursor on the correct attachment and press S. You may edit the
> filename.
>
> > .. (parent dir) mail (dir)
> > #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB
> > &brand=xcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB
> > core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB"
> >
> > Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do?
>
> Note that your home directory is slightly screwed up. Remove the core dump
> and quit saving files with spaces in them. VSNL's rksh won't let you
> delete (or even access) them. This is getting off-topic.
>
> > It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says
> > "Unknown format hence cannot be opened."
>
> Yes. It can only open certain types of files (mime.types, anyone?)
>
> --
> Satya.
> http://satyaonline.cjb.net/
>
>

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ashwanth:

it is my experience that a shell account provides a lot more power
[and options] than a limited functionality account. yes, more power
requires more skill.

-ski

ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote:
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> Dear Satya,
> Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes mine is a shell account. Now I know its
> limitations. Thanks, Ashwanth Fernando

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This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
version 4.20. This latest release introduces a couple of significant new
features, provides performance improvements on several fronts, and fixes a
number of bugs found in earlier releases.

More specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R"
off the Main Menu), and via:

http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/

Source for the latest Pine release is available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz

and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
are available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
and
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed

The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm420w32.zip

As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
before placing Pine into production use.

Enjoy!

The Pine Development Team

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Just installed it and WOW! it rocks! I am no longer getting IMAP
protocol: missing required arguement to fetch. most cool. keep up
the good work dudes!

> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> version 4.20. This latest release introduces a couple of significant new
> features, provides performance improvements on several fronts, and fixes a
> number of bugs found in earlier releases.
>
> More specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R"
> off the Main Menu), and via:
>
> http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/
> and
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/
>
> Source for the latest Pine release is available in:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
> and
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
>
> and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
> are available in:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
> and
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed
>
> The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm420w32.zip
>
> As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
> determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
> before placing Pine into production use.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> The Pine Development Team
>
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Hi,

thanks for the new pine release!

One little problem:

for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window
size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is
running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets
messed up pretty bad.

Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by
"brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some
"include <termio.h>" - everything seems to work o.k.)

Regards,
Peter
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Well, so far I really like it! I love the customized colors and the
filters as well. I know my users will love customizing the colors,
especially the ability to use more than the standard 8 or so colors.
Otherwise, it looks pretty solid. Great job guys!

Robert

On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Michael Seibel wrote:

> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> version 4.20. This latest release introduces a couple of significant new
> features, provides performance improvements on several fronts, and fixes a
> number of bugs found in earlier releases.
>
> More specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R"
> off the Main Menu), and via:
>
> http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/
> and
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/
>
> Source for the latest Pine release is available in:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
> and
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
>
> and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
> are available in:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
> and
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed
>
> The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm420w32.zip
>
> As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
> determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
> before placing Pine into production use.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> The Pine Development Team
>
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I built pine under Solaris 2.6 using gcc with no special options, and
xterm window sizing is fine. It must be a platform-dependent problem.
--Mike

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter Daum wrote:

> One little problem:
>
> for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window
> size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is
> running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets
> messed up pretty bad.
>
> Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by
> "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some
> "include <termio.h>" - everything seems to work o.k.)

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I don't see the green/red pine tree in the system tray (win98) anymore.
Is it supposed to be there? If not, why did it leave? It was very useful
when I have 15 windows going (which is very often). I was using 4.10 and
just copied over the old files. Should I have done anything different?

Robert

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Nevermind - I see it integrated with the taskbar icon. I jumped the gun,
sorry.

Robert

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote:

> I don't see the green/red pine tree in the system tray (win98) anymore.
> Is it supposed to be there? If not, why did it leave? It was very useful
> when I have 15 windows going (which is very often). I was using 4.10 and
> just copied over the old files. Should I have done anything different?
>
> Robert
>
>
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Peter,
There were a couple changes to the linux port that must be causing this
problem for you. We're now using the POSIX terminal driver
(termios.h) instead of the System V driver (termio.h) and we're using the
ncurses library and TERMINFO instead of the termcap library and
TERMCAP. We've been told by several people that these changes are
appropriate for newer linux systems. The changes were made to:

pico/makefile.lnx, pico/osdep/os-lnx.h, pico/osdep/os-lnx.ic, and
pine/makefile.lnx

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On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter Daum wrote:

> Hi,
>
> thanks for the new pine release!
>
> One little problem:
>
> for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window
> size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is
> running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets
> messed up pretty bad.
>
> Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by
> "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some
> "include <termio.h>" - everything seems to work o.k.)
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>

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On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I built pine under Solaris 2.6 using gcc with no special options, and
> xterm window sizing is fine. It must be a platform-dependent problem.

I would agree, looks like all my window sizing under linux went to crap
after I updated to glibc 2.1, not just in pine.

-Ian

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I am having the same difficulty resizing my SuSE 6.1 kernel 2.2.12 system.

Can someone post the exact changes to the files to get this to compile.
I tried changing the files listed below but did not know what to change in the
makefiles or .ic file. I changed the termios.h and TERMINFO entry in the
pico/osdep/os-lnx.h and rebuilt but it errored out.

> Peter,
> There were a couple changes to the linux port that must be causing this
> problem for you. We're now using the POSIX terminal driver
> (termios.h) instead of the System V driver (termio.h) and we're using the
> ncurses library and TERMINFO instead of the termcap library and
> TERMCAP. We've been told by several people that these changes are
> appropriate for newer linux systems. The changes were made to:
>
> pico/makefile.lnx, pico/osdep/os-lnx.h, pico/osdep/os-lnx.ic, and
> pine/makefile.lnx
>
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> Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter Daum wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > thanks for the new pine release!
> >
> > One little problem:
> >
> > for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window
> > size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is
> > running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets
> > messed up pretty bad.
> >
> > Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by
> > "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some
> > "include <termio.h>" - everything seems to work o.k.)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter
> >
>
>

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I had two messages in my saved-messages folder (where I save all incoming
and outgoing messages) that I had mailed out and that both had N flags on
them. Normally, with older versions of Pine, if I looked at those
messages, the N flag would go away, and it would stay gone. Now it
doesn't seem to work that way...

I look at the saved message (in saved-messages), then return to Index.
Then N is gone, as it should be. I then move to another folder index,
then return to the saved-messages index, and the darned N is back! It
isn't supposed to come back!

I'm using the new Pine 4.20 on Solaris 2.6 OS. I built it from source and
in the standard way and it seemed to go well.

Regards,

Mike

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I noticed the same thing and was going to ask the same question.

I've also meant to ask (quite some time ago), if it's possible to ONLY
have the systray icon when Pine is minimized. There's a lot of programs
that do that.

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On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote:

> I don't see the green/red pine tree in the system tray (win98)
> anymore. Is it supposed to be there? If not, why did it leave? It
> was very useful when I have 15 windows going (which is very often).
> I was using 4.10 and just copied over the old files. Should I have
> done anything different?
>
> Robert

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I am working with two installations of Pine -- both on Unix boxes. One is
version 3.94, the other 3.96 When I e-mail a HTML encoded message to myself
at both places, the version 3.94 software presents the raw HTML code when
viewing the body of the message. In contrast, the 3.96 install presents a
version of the HTML that's been converted to plain text.

It looks like the second install is converting and displaying "part 1" of
the message and the first install is displaying the HTML contained in "part
2".

How can I configure the first install to display the "part 1" which is in
plain text, rather than part 2?

Thanks,

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On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 [email protected] wrote, in part:

> Can someone post the exact changes to the files to get this to compile.

Let us know if the attached, one-line diff doesn't do the trick.
Sorry for any problems this is causing...

-mikes

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The linux binary you provide at the ftpsite do not run well under Mandrake
Linux 6.1 anyway. Complains about missing termcap. Haven't looked into
recompiling it myself yet.

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote:

> Peter,
> There were a couple changes to the linux port that must be causing this
> problem for you. We're now using the POSIX terminal driver
> (termios.h) instead of the System V driver (termio.h) and we're using the
> ncurses library and TERMINFO instead of the termcap library and
> TERMCAP. We've been told by several people that these changes are
> appropriate for newer linux systems. The changes were made to:
>
> pico/makefile.lnx, pico/osdep/os-lnx.h, pico/osdep/os-lnx.ic, and
> pine/makefile.lnx
>
>

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I had some errors under Slackware libc5.. Running from SecureCRT via ssh..
but thinking its running in an xterm.. It wasn't too bad, just had some of
a past message showing up on the screen.

CTRL-L is your friend.

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Ian Hall-Beyer wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote:
>
> > I built pine under Solaris 2.6 using gcc with no special options, and
> > xterm window sizing is fine. It must be a platform-dependent problem.
>
> I would agree, looks like all my window sizing under linux went to crap
> after I updated to glibc 2.1, not just in pine.
>
> -Ian
>
> --
> <cosmo> wow, this is kinda nifty. the win98 protocol stack is
> like a chinese finger puzzle, twist and turn in the right places,
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>

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Thanks that worked for me. I can resize till the cows come home!

> On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 [email protected] wrote, in part:
>
> > Can someone post the exact changes to the files to get this to compile.
>
> Let us know if the attached, one-line diff doesn't do the trick.
> Sorry for any problems this is causing...
>
> -mikes
>

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Hello...

I've searched the archive for any mention of this function and found
nothing.

It looks to me like the month_num() function in pine/strings.c may not be
Y2K compliant. This function returns the month number of the month in the
string argument. This month number appears to include the year, making it
months since the millennium, unless I'm reading it wrong. Here's the line
that worries me (line 652):

month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i;

This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be
incorrect next year.

I can find only one call to this function, in init.c (line 4684):

sm->month_num = month_num(sm->name + (size_t)folder_base_len + 1);

Now, sm->name contains the name of a "sent" folder, which *is* of the
format sent-mmm-yyyy, as named by pine. As long as the file continues to
be named correctly it will work, but if someone renames it with a 2-digit
year, it will break next year.

I'd like to give pine a clean bill of health Y2K-wise, but I need to
resolve this first. If I'm missing something obvious, please set me
straight. I admit that I don't know the code as intimately as I would like
to, but time is limited...

Thanks, everybody...

leslie

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Hello All,

I'm hoping one of you have stumbled on this one before and have a fix -
I searched the archives, but this problem is a difficult one to search
for.

I compiled Pine/Pico on a Debian Linux box (stable, 2.1) running on
Alpha hardware. (466MHz EV6)

When you start pico or pine, the results of your keystrokes are lagged
by 3 or 4 keystrokes. For example, I start pico and type "Hello". Only
"He" is displayed. Then I type a "." - the "l" finally appears.

I hit Control-X, the next "l" appears. I type "N", the "o" appears. I
type "n" to answer the 'save changes' prompt I know is there, and the "."
appears after "Hello" appears.

I then have to hit enter three more times, at which point pico finally
exits, and the three returns are processed by my shell.

There's something strange going on. Pine/Pico is the only thing
affected on the system. I've tried different term types, different
shells. It's not Debian specific - a Debian 2.1 Intel box compiles
both programs and they function normally.

Any clues where to start looking? Since it's processor specific, I
assume there's a bad data size assumption in the code, but I prefer a
clue about where to start looking.

Thanks!

- Matt

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Hi all,
I'm trying to get the global_addressbook working, and I get
farther with PC-Pine 4.20 then I have before. I am able to set up a
global_addressbook on my Sun box (where my account info is) and PC-Pine
will read it. However, I am unsure of how I should update the
addrbook. Should I do it through Pine, using a personal addressbook and
adding the entry? I tried doing it the old manual way (vi), but PC-Pine
fails to re-read the global_addressbook until I delete the .aba22827 and
aba22827.lu files and restart PC-Pine.

Help!

Thanks,

Robert

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Where is the best place to send bug reports? Should I be sending them to
this list?

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*** Mike Miller ([email protected]) wrote on Oct 14, 1999:

:) Where is the best place to send bug reports? Should I be sending them to
:) this list?
:)

According to my configuration file it says: [email protected]
But I am also willing to know them, I guess it does not make a big
difference if you post them here too :)

Eduardo
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Hi,

first of pine4.20 is great. :))
Highlighting and all.

Now the Problem :))
I had FROMTO in the index-list, after the update to 4.20,
the column disappeared.

Regards
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*** Adi Sieker ([email protected]) wrote on Oct 15, 1999:

:) Hi,
:)
:) first of pine4.20 is great. :)) Highlighting and all.
:)
:) Now the Problem :)) I had FROMTO in the index-list, after the update
:) to 4.20, the column disappeared.
:)

FROMTO does not exist as a token, usually when pine can not recognize a
token it ignores it (so there you have the dissapeared column), but in
your case it probably occurs that in pine4.10 (or earlier versions yet?)
what comes after the from is tried to be interpreted as a number or a
percentage (like 33% or 15). I do not know if pine had a minimum default
for showing the from field once you asked for it, but this seems to be
what is happening. Maybe a good solution in the same lines as what you had
before would be to replace FROMTO by FROM(2) or even FROMORTO(2).

Have a nice day,

Eduardo
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Hi,

I tried to set the color in pine 4.20, but could not. I am
running pine in xterm on my solaris 2.7 machine.

As per the help, I tried the escape sequence:

ESC [ 3 <color_number> m

but it would not take it.

For example, I came up to setup color menu for the reverse color,
but could not go beyond this:

Reverse Color =
Foreground Background
--------------------------- Sample
( ) < > ( ) < >
(*) < > ( ) < >
( ) < > ( ) < >
( ) < > ( ) < >
( ) < > ( ) < >
( ) < > ( ) < >
( ) < > (*) < >
( ) < > ( ) < >
[ ] Default (terminal's standout mode, usually reverse video)

Any help would be appreciated.

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On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Vibhu AV wrote:

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> I tried to set the color in pine 4.20, but could not. I am
> running pine in xterm on my solaris 2.7 machine.
>

Hi,

Solaris is distributed with an old xterm that is *not* capable of
displaying colors.

You'll have to use cde's dtterm or install another terminal. I go
with rxvt <http://www.rxvt.org>, but there are other terminal emulators,
<http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html#other_versions>.

Greetings,
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Hi,

I am now using color-xterm so that I can use the color
features of pine 4.20. But, I have noticed that the redraw
of the background of the xterm is not done nicely. This is
quite annoying especially when the xterm's bg is not white.
When I scroll up and down a message, for example, the xterm's
original background's
color is used in areas where there is no text, and for the areas
where there is text, the background color that I specified in pine
will be used (which, for normal text is white). This results in a
dirty looking step shaped right hand side on the screen.
This becomes clean when I do "^L".

Has anyone noticed this? Looks like a bug to me.

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Hello..

Great job on 3.20!

I searched through mailing list archives, and noticed that this has been
requested before. What I want is ability to automatically save messages
that are being deleted to a separate folder. Basically, "Delete" would
become "Save to Trash Folder, Mark Deleted".

This would let us easily keep a backup of all old emails without doing
extra work of saving things. It would also be consistent with how
some other email applications operate (Netscape Mail for example), which
allow you to move deleted messages to a Trash folder.

--Vitaliy

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I recently installed PINE on a new FreeBSD 3.3 system and
used the PICO command "-t". However, now I would like to
change that because I want PICO to prompt for save on exit
and allow me to rename the buffer at "Write Out".

How can I undo the "-t" option?

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On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Vitaliy wrote:

> Great job on 3.20!

That's a rather old version.... :-)

> I searched through mailing list archives, and noticed that this has been
> requested before. What I want is ability to automatically save messages
> that are being deleted to a separate folder. Basically, "Delete" would
> become "Save to Trash Folder, Mark Deleted".

You can accomplish this today.

Make your default saved message folder "Trash". When you "save" a message
it will be marked for deletion and moved to "Trash". You can then clean
up your trash as you see fit.

> This would let us easily keep a backup of all old emails without doing
> extra work of saving things. It would also be consistent with how
> some other email applications operate (Netscape Mail for example), which
> allow you to move deleted messages to a Trash folder.

If you want consistency with other email applications then why not use the
other email applications? :-) :-)

You didn't ask for it....but I give you my opinion. I've never been a big
fan of the way other email clients handle this sort of thing. They move
things to a trash folder and you end up spending just as much time later
sorting through the trash to decide again to finally get rid of your
mail. Sure, some clients allow you to set a limit on how long stays in
the trash but a great percentage of the time a mail sits there for the
limit and gets expired. So why waste the storage?

I like this feature just the way it is. When I throw out my trash I
really do want to get rid of it. I don't want it hanging around an extra
3 days in the garage. :-)

Ed

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On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Edward M Greshko wrote:

> > Great job on 3.20!
> That's a rather old version.... :-)
Ack :) I'm sure everyone knows I meant 4.20 :)

> If you want consistency with other email applications then why not use the
> other email applications? :-) :-)

I can type faster than I can click.. I can access my telnet account from
anywhere.. I *extemely* like Pine, especially 4.20 :)

> mail. Sure, some clients allow you to set a limit on how long stays in
> the trash but a great percentage of the time a mail sits there for the
> limit and gets expired. So why waste the storage?

I would just like to have this so I can handle accidental deletions and
to possibly find some ancient emails that I didn't care to save months
later. I would probably never go through Trash unless I was looking for
something missing. Basically, a backup folder.

What I do once in a blue moon is sort my Trash folder by sender/recipient,
delete all obvious spams, cron mails and other useless stuff, and gzip the
rest.

As I think about it - this could easily be done by just putting a second
copy of EVERY incoming message in a separate folder. It'd pretty much
have the same effect, and be pretty easy to do using procmail (or 4.20's
filters!). However, that'd be a "hack", and a feature like that seems
logical and not too complicated to add.

How about "Delete" and "Kill" functions? Delete would moved a message to
Trash and mark as deleted, "Kill" would do what Delete is currently doing.

As for your suggestion - I want to press just one key to delete
:) Especially when I'm in folder index and see a dozen spams in a row -
press+hold D and you've got them all.

--Vitaliy.

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Hello !

Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem.

Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left side
of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are colored
and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced.

Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything
goes bad under screen terminal.

So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ?

Thanx in advance.

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I find this request puzzling. First, of course, most of us don't want to
backup all of our deleted messages. they are being deleted because we want
them to be.
If you wish to backup all your messages I suggest the following. Set your
configuration so that when s and enter are pressed pine moves
automatically to the next message. In this way, you can save any message
you want by pressing s followed by enter and only press delete d when you
mean delete.
Hope this helps. Also, you can create other folders titled by subject so
that if you want to save a message to a specific folder say mywork you
would type s (no space) mywork and hit enter. The message would be file in
the mywork folder and pine (if you set it right) will move on to the next
message. To create these extra folders, just type s and the folder name
you want to use. Pine will reply that that folder does not exist Create?
and just type y and there it is with its first message already saved
inside.
Hope this helps.

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The PC-Pine 4.20 Help > About box says:

PC-Pine for Windows
Version 4.20 with SSL

It's very cool that PC-Pine supports SSL but I haven't been able
to find documentation about how to set this up. Do I need to use
something like {imap.server/ssl} when specifying a server? What
exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers,
and passwords between my desktop and the server?

Also, what other kind of security does PC-Pine support -- ssh?
kerberos? Any idea when we will get to use PGP or S/MIME to
encrypt our messages with PC-Pine?

Thanks!

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On 99-10-17 I wrote:
NtM> It's very cool that PC-Pine supports SSL but I haven't been able
NtM> to find documentation about how to set this up. Do I need to use
NtM> something like {imap.server/ssl} when specifying a server?

I finally found the Help on this and it seems that you can use

{imap.server/user=login/SSL}

or...

{imap.server/user=login/secure}

or both at once...

{imap.server/user=login/SSL/secure}

Unfortunately my IMAP server supports neither the SSL nor the
secure flags. For the first I get an error msg about port 993 and
for the second I get a msg that says "can't do secure
authentication with this server." What exactly should I ask my
ISP for to get both of these working?

I'm still curious about the following Q's:

NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers,
NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server?
NtM>
NtM> Also, what other kind of security does PC-Pine support -- ssh?
NtM> kerberos? Any idea when we will get to use PGP or S/MIME to
NtM> encrypt our messages with PC-Pine?

Thanks again,

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I've run into some random, and very painful problems with 4.20
on slackware linux.. Random message will be marked as new
even after being read. Specifically, Bugtraq, where I show
the past 15 messages new, no matter how many times i read them. (heh)
also i nthe main inbox, sometime just random messages will be marked as
new. I don't see anything different about them.

Any more info needed, let me know, and I will provide.

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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Erik Parker wrote:

> the past 15 messages new, no matter how many times i read them. (heh)

This bug i've encountered in 4.20 as well. And have been able to figger
out how to reproduce it. (on my system at least).

Open up a folder with new messages. Read the message. Don't do anything
to the folder. Close pine and go back to the folder with the STILL new
messages even after being read.

BUT if you goto the folder, read the messages, delete a message. Then
close pine and go back to the folder and they're marked as read.

For this reason I had to go back to my pine4.10 bin. It works fine there.

Looking at the changelog the only thing I can see that would have broke
this is this..

* Sizable performance improvement in Unix format mail handling

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"When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame. -- Al Gore

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I searched the internet for this 'interesting' quote and
found it on many pages, and while Rush attributed it to Gore,
there are early pages that attribute it to Quayle

I used http://google.com to get search
http://www.google.com/search?q=who+caused+the+riots+and+the+killing&site=search&start=10&sa=N
and read the cached copy from
http://snopes.simplenet.com/quotes/quayle.htm

Now to make up for the fact that so far my post didn't have
anything to do with pine I'll add that searching
for pine mail info on google

http://www.google.com/search?q=pine+mail+info&num=10&sa=Google+Search

gives the number 1 result as

http://www.washington.edu/pine/

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Matt Davis wrote:

> ---
> Matt Davis - ICQ# 934680
> http://dogpound.vnet.net/~bigdog/
>
> "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A.,
> my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The
> rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are
> to blame. -- Al Gore

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> It looks to me like the month_num() function in pine/strings.c may not be
> Y2K compliant. This function returns the month number of the month in the
> string argument. This month number appears to include the year, making it
> months since the millennium, unless I'm reading it wrong. Here's the line
> that worries me (line 652):
>
> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i;
>
> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be
> incorrect next year.

No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only
being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps
year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is
19xx.

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Ah yes.. I see it this way too. However, on one.. THe roxen mailing list,
I read the last 5 messages.. quit, came back in, and the last 3 were
marked as read. Then went back about 20 messages, read a few, quit and
came back, they were all still unread. Also, you can REPLY to the email,
and it will still be marked as new. So I'm not sure exactly what it is
doing.

If anyone at washington.edu can't replicate this, I can give you a temp
account to check it out on.

It's a bit of a pain to delete list mail, when you want to save it all for
archiving :)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Matt Davis wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Erik Parker wrote:
>
> > the past 15 messages new, no matter how many times i read them. (heh)
>
> This bug i've encountered in 4.20 as well. And have been able to figger
> out how to reproduce it. (on my system at least).
>
> Open up a folder with new messages. Read the message. Don't do anything
> to the folder. Close pine and go back to the folder with the STILL new
> messages even after being read.
>
> BUT if you goto the folder, read the messages, delete a message. Then
> close pine and go back to the folder and they're marked as read.
>
> For this reason I had to go back to my pine4.10 bin. It works fine there.
>
> Looking at the changelog the only thing I can see that would have broke
> this is this..
>
> * Sizable performance improvement in Unix format mail handling
>
> ---
> Matt Davis - ICQ# 934680
> http://dogpound.vnet.net/~bigdog/
>
> "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame. -- Al Gore
>

Erik Parker
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Thought I'd share this with the rest of you...

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Subject: goto-default-rule bug (or design flaw)

I like the new features in Pine 4.20. There are a couple things that
didn't get fixed, though, that I'd like to draw your attention to.

- I have Incoming-Folders and several collections set up. All my incoming
mail goes to Incoming-Folders, so that's where I want the goto command to
default to. However, the option that should do this doesn't:

inbox-or-folder-in-first-collection
If the current folder is "Inbox", Pine will offer the most recently
visited folder in the default collection found in the "Collection
List" screen. If the current folder is other than "Inbox", "Inbox"
is offered as the default.

Instead of Incoming-Folders, it defines the "first collection" (or
"default collection") as my leibrand.deskmail.washington.edu
collection. Since my Inbox and all my incoming messages are in
Incoming-Folders, that means I can't (G)oto a folder with new messages by
default. Instead, I have to set the goto-default-rule as
inbox-or-folder-in-recent-collection and then make excessive use of ^P and
^N when I want to goto a folder.

Since Pine 4.20 just came out, I'm sure it will be awhile before your next
scheduled release. So is there any way to fix this behavior on my copy of
Pine short of waiting for 4.21 or 4.30?

- What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's
a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only
one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the
only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones.

- Why didn't you implement the suggestion (on comp.mail.pine or pine-info)
of using ^Y and ^V to select the first and last collections in the Goto
and Save windows? And while you're at it, use that for Roles selection,
as well.

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On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote:

> On 99-10-17 I wrote:
>=20
> I'm still curious about the following Q's:
>=20
> NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers,
> NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server?

Yes. If your IMAP server supports SSL connections on port 993, that is.

> Thanks again,
>=20
> --=20
> =A9Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
> For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

--=20
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The new-flag bug has been repaired, but you have to download the new
source and compile it (as of now). Jeff Franklin of the pine team wrote
to tell me this...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

It turns out that it was a bug in imap. The latest version of that
(with the fix) can be found at:

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap/imap-4.7.BETA.tar.Z

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Pine uses code in the imap directory. So you have to have the pine source
(which includes an imap directory), then download the new imap source,
untar, etc., and replace the imap directory in the pine source with the
new imap directory (e.g., rm pine/imap; mv imap-4.7.BETA pine/imap), then
compile pine (build xxx).

I did this on Solaris 2.6 and it worked. Another guy who helped me out
with this (named Brian Stark) compiled under AIX and it also worked for
him. I assume the pine team will be telling you all about this soon.

Regards,

Mike

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Do the UNIX version support SSL as well?

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote:
>
> > On 99-10-17 I wrote:
> >
> > I'm still curious about the following Q's:
> >
> > NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers,
> > NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server?
>
> Yes. If your IMAP server supports SSL connections on port 993, that is.
>
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > --
> > �Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
> > For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/
>
>

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: SSL and other security in PC-Pine?
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No, but the Unix version supports SSH, with one simple tweak to the
=2Epinerc (of course, customize the paths as needed):

# Sets the name of the command used to open a UNIX remote shell connection.
# The default is tyically /usr/ucb/rsh.
rsh-path=3D/usr/local/bin/ssh
#rsh-path=3D

# Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX remote
# shell connection. The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd"
# NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command
# where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the
# host to connnect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the
# fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap")
rsh-command=3D%s %s -q -l %s exec /etc/r%sd
#rsh-command=3D

If you only do that, Pine will behave as it always has except that it will
now encrypt everything it transmits (assuming it successfully gets an SSH
connection). While you're at it, though, you might want to set up
passwordless access using SSH keys. To do so you'll need to have
the SSH daemon running on your mail server, and you'll need write access
to your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file.

Log on to the machine your run Pine on. Run ssh-keygen and create a
public-private key pair. Transfer the PUBLIC KEY ONLY to the mail server,
and put it in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on its own line. If you
use Pico to edit the file, be sure to use the don't-word-wrap option (-w),
since the line will be really long. :)

--=20
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> Do the UNIX version support SSL as well?
>=20
> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>=20
> > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote:
> >=20
> > > On 99-10-17 I wrote:
> > >=20
> > > I'm still curious about the following Q's:
> > >=20
> > > NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, head=
ers,
> > > NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server?
> >=20
> > Yes. If your IMAP server supports SSL connections on port 993, that is=
=2E
> >=20
> > > Thanks again,
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > =A9Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink
> > > For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
> --=20
> Henrik Edlund
> http://www.edlund.org/
>=20
> "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
> Naturally they became heroes."
> Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator
>=20
>=20

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From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra <[email protected]>
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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote:

>_
>_
>_>
>_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i;
>_>
>_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be
>_> incorrect next year.
>_
>_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only
>_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps
>_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is
>_19xx.
>_

Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't
want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that
Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century.

Anyway, I got e-mail from someone at UW saying that this will be fixed in
Pine 4.21. I don't know if he copied it to the list. I guess not.

leslie
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: goto-default-rule bug (or design flaw)

Hmm... It looks like I spoke too soon about the Roles-selection screen.
When I replied to a message in 4.10 that didn't match any of my roles, I
got this:

Reply using role "Default Role" ?
? Help Y [Yes] ^P Prev Role
^C Cancel N No ^N Next Role

As compared to this when it did match a role:

Reply using role "To: sleib" ?
? Help Y [Yes] ^P Prev Role
^C Cancel N No ^N Next Role

Which was good, because I could press Y to reply, N to cancel, or ^P and
^N to select the proper role.

Now, when I reply to a message in 4.20 that doesn't match any of my roles,
I get this:

Use role "To: sleib" for Reply?
? Help Y [Yes] ^T To Select Alternate Role
^C Cancel N No Role

As opposed to this when it does match:

Use role "To: sleib" for Reply?
? Help Y [Yes] ^T To Select Alternate Role
^C Cancel N No Role

Not only is the absense of ^P and ^N annoying, but you can see it changed
its behavior from logical to completely illogical. The message didn't
match any roles, so it should have asked me if I wanted to compose with
the Default Role (or No Role). Instead, the pattern matching of my roles
no longer matters, because it does the same thing whether it matches or
not!

As a workaround, I created ANOTHER role (which I called Default Role) with
leibrand@u as the pattern and everything else as the default. This takes
care of the illogical behavior when replying, but it forces me to either
use the #-then-arrow-keys-then-enter or
c-then-^T-then-arrow-keys-then-enter routes. No longer will a c-then-y or
c-then-^N-then-y suffice. :(

Hope you can fix these bugs soon and get out a 4.21 release so we can
install it on the UA machines.

Keep up the good work,
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Computing & Communications
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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> I like the new features in Pine 4.20. There are a couple things that
> didn't get fixed, though, that I'd like to draw your attention to.
>
> - I have Incoming-Folders and several collections set up. All my incoming
> mail goes to Incoming-Folders, so that's where I want the goto command to
> default to. However, the option that should do this doesn't:
>
> inbox-or-folder-in-first-collection
> If the current folder is "Inbox", Pine will offer the most recently
> visited folder in the default collection found in the "Collection
> List" screen. If the current folder is other than "Inbox", "Inbox"
> is offered as the default.
>
> Instead of Incoming-Folders, it defines the "first collection" (or
> "default collection") as my leibrand.deskmail.washington.edu
> collection. Since my Inbox and all my incoming messages are in
> Incoming-Folders, that means I can't (G)oto a folder with new messages by
> default. Instead, I have to set the goto-default-rule as
> inbox-or-folder-in-recent-collection and then make excessive use of ^P and
> ^N when I want to goto a folder.
>
> Since Pine 4.20 just came out, I'm sure it will be awhile before your next
> scheduled release. So is there any way to fix this behavior on my copy of
> Pine short of waiting for 4.21 or 4.30?
>
> - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's
> a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only
> one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the
> only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones.
>
> - Why didn't you implement the suggestion (on comp.mail.pine or pine-info)
> of using ^Y and ^V to select the first and last collections in the Goto
> and Save windows? And while you're at it, use that for Roles selection,
> as well.
>
> --
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> Training Technical Support Lead
> Computing & Communications
> [email protected]
>
>
>

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Pine 4.20, self-compiled on Solaris (build gs5).

My postponed messages remain in the folder; I am not provided with the
offer to continue them.

I had one message in there for a while, whilst sending others in the
foreground. I sent one large one in the background (many recipients; can
background be made the default?) and found I could no longer send in the
foreground!

The error is "Can't send while background posting. Use postpone."

Yeah, well, I'm not background posting; at least, I can't see any sign of
them...

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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Dave Horsfall wrote:

> The error is "Can't send while background posting. Use postpone."

And the only reason that this got through is because I went to the
postponed folder and (B)ounced it..

Stop Press:

I just went ^X, and it offered to send this one; weird...

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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> [...]
>
> - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's
> a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only
> one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the
> only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones.

HERE, HERE!! I discovered the same thing and have been meaning to send a
message but just haven't got around to it. Actually, I have a half
finish, postponed message just waiting for me. :-)

I hope this can get put back in... soon.

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CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS CURRENT Y2K THREAD RELATES TO THE FOLLOWING
EXCHANGE FROM MARCH? DOES THIS SAME ISSUE EXIST WITH 3.90?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:31:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Jessica Rasku <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Y2K compliance

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Bill Goulette wrote:

> I am running version 3.90 pine for UNIX. Can anyone direct me to the
most
> recent (closest to Y2K compliant) version available?
> Thanks

To my knowledge there are no Y2K concerns with any version of
Pine. The only use of dates as far as I know is in the Date: field of the
message header, and no date that I know of will crash Pine. The problem
that may show up (and probably can't be handled at all), is dealing with
messages with non compliant (hm, RFC 822 specifies a 2 digit date, has
this been updated at some point?) mail readers. But, the problem is that
those messages may be placed in the wrong place in the date sorted list...
Am I sorely mistaken?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

THANKS,
DENNIS

Dennis J. Gurgul
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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Leslie Dreyer Kalra wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote:
>
> >_
> >_
> >_>
> >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i;
> >_>
> >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be
> >_> incorrect next year.
> >_
> >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only
> >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps
> >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is
> >_19xx.
> >_
>
> Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't
> want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that
> Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century.
>
> Anyway, I got e-mail from someone at UW saying that this will be fixed in
> Pine 4.21. I don't know if he copied it to the list. I guess not.
>
> leslie
> --
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>
>

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Hi all,
I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the
index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort
by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Robert

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I haven't had (or been able to reproduce) that problem. The only sorting
problem I've had is with Ilia Chipitsine's message that was supposedly
sent October 20, 2014. For some odd reason it wants to put that message
at the bottom when I sort by date. :)

Did you get the source or binaries from ftp.cac? What OS are you running?

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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote:

>
> Hi all,
> I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the
> index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort
> by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
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> ` [email protected] `
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From: Robert Larmon <[email protected]>
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Well, I didn't know you could get the source for PC-Pine 4.20. ;) I'm
running Win98, and I could reproduce it on another user's account on their
PC. (For the record, we've used PC-Pine 4.10, and found it extremely
stable, except with the Diamond Stealth 3d-2000 video card) Pine 4.10
seems to sort fine.

Robert

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> I haven't had (or been able to reproduce) that problem. The only sorting
> problem I've had is with Ilia Chipitsine's message that was supposedly
> sent October 20, 2014. For some odd reason it wants to put that message
> at the bottom when I sort by date. :)
>
> Did you get the source or binaries from ftp.cac? What OS are you running?
>
> --
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>
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the
> > index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort
> > by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> > ` Robert Larmon `
> > ` PC Systems Analyst `
> > ` USC Law School Computing Services `
> > ` [email protected] `
> > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
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> >
>

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Sorry. I thought you were talking about Unix Pine. I'm not using
PC-Pine, so ignore everything I said. :)

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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote:

>
> Well, I didn't know you could get the source for PC-Pine 4.20. ;) I'm
> running Win98, and I could reproduce it on another user's account on their
> PC. (For the record, we've used PC-Pine 4.10, and found it extremely
> stable, except with the Diamond Stealth 3d-2000 video card) Pine 4.10
> seems to sort fine.
>
> Robert
>
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>
> > I haven't had (or been able to reproduce) that problem. The only sorting
> > problem I've had is with Ilia Chipitsine's message that was supposedly
> > sent October 20, 2014. For some odd reason it wants to put that message
> > at the bottom when I sort by date. :)
> >
> > Did you get the source or binaries from ftp.cac? What OS are you running?
> >
> > --
> > Scott Leibrand
> > [email protected]
> > http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
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> > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. *
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the
> > > index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort
> > > by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> > > ` Robert Larmon `
> > > ` PC Systems Analyst `
> > > ` USC Law School Computing Services `
> > > ` [email protected] `
> > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
>
>
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It's not a problem. Pine only uses 4-digit years for sent-mail folders so
this function will only see 4-digit years in most cases. If somebody does
rename a sent-mail folder to sent-mail.01 then the only thing bad that
will happen is that pine will create (after asking) a sent-mail.2001
folder when maybe the user thinks it should be in .01. Nothing bad
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Dennis Gurgul wrote:

>
> CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS CURRENT Y2K THREAD RELATES TO THE FOLLOWING
> EXCHANGE FROM MARCH? DOES THIS SAME ISSUE EXIST WITH 3.90?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:31:46 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jessica Rasku <[email protected]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Y2K compliance
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Bill Goulette wrote:
>
> > I am running version 3.90 pine for UNIX. Can anyone direct me to the
> most
> > recent (closest to Y2K compliant) version available?
> > Thanks
>
> To my knowledge there are no Y2K concerns with any version of
> Pine. The only use of dates as far as I know is in the Date: field of the
> message header, and no date that I know of will crash Pine. The problem
> that may show up (and probably can't be handled at all), is dealing with
> messages with non compliant (hm, RFC 822 specifies a 2 digit date, has
> this been updated at some point?) mail readers. But, the problem is that
> those messages may be placed in the wrong place in the date sorted list...
> Am I sorely mistaken?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> THANKS,
> DENNIS
>
>
> Dennis J. Gurgul
> Helix Server Management
> 617.724.3169
>
> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Leslie Dreyer Kalra wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote:
> >
> > >_
> > >_
> > >_>
> > >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i;
> > >_>
> > >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be
> > >_> incorrect next year.
> > >_
> > >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only
> > >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps
> > >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is
> > >_19xx.
> > >_
> >
> > Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't
> > want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that
> > Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century.
> >
> > Anyway, I got e-mail from someone at UW saying that this will be fixed in
> > Pine 4.21. I don't know if he copied it to the list. I guess not.
> >
> > leslie
> > --
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> >
> >
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>

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If you answer No to the use role question, you will be put into the
composer with your default settings. In 4.10 No canceled the reply, now No
doesn't cancel the reply, it just means you don't want to use the offered
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> >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i;
> >_>
> >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be
> >_> incorrect next year.
> >_
> >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only
> >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps
> >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is
> >_19xx.
> >_
>
> Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't
> want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that
> Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century.

Hmmm, I would assume that is why it will not fail--it will get "2001" instead
of "01" and interpret the date correctly. If you're still using 2-digit dates
after 1999, you deserve to crash and burn.

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I use Pine on a Unix system, as well as having installed PC-Pine on my PC;
it makes life VERY easy re storing and reading old mail once it's off the
Unix account. The ability to add words to the dictionary (re the
spell-check function) is not available on the Unix version (perhaps not
enabled by the system administrator) but it is on PC-Pine as I set it up.

My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error while
I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I realize that
I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the dictionary and remove
words that you've added in error? (Of course, I do try to proofread
things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.)

Thanks.

Freda Birnbaum, [email protected]
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I asked, re PC-Pine:

> My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error
> while I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I
> realize that I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the
> dictionary and remove words that you've added in error? (Of course, I
> do try to proofread things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.)

I do notice that there is a file in my C:\PINE directory called DICT.U,
which appears to be a list of words, separated by commas, which I have
added to the dictionary. Can I remove some of them with an editor without
breaking something?

Freda Birnbaum, [email protected]
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From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra <[email protected]>
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote:

>_>
>_> Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't
>_> want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that
>_> Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century.
>_
>_Hmmm, I would assume that is why it will not fail--it will get "2001" instead
>_of "01" and interpret the date correctly. If you're still using 2-digit dates
>_after 1999, you deserve to crash and burn.
>_

That's an interesting attitude to take -- you must never have done tech
support (lucky you!). Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is, when
the user comes banging on your door to complain about a 2-digit year
problem, telling him/her that they deserve everything they get will get
you, at best, more grief than you ever want in your life and, at worst, a
bad raise or a pink slip.

The fact is, if your software doesn't handle 2-digit years properly
regardless of what century you're in, it's not Y2K compliant. End of
story. Fortunately, in this case, the bug is tiny and highly unlikely to
be exploited by anyone; even if it is, there is no damage. Nonetheless, it
needs to be fixed.

I think the horse is thoroughly dead.

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Leslie Dreyer Kalra
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I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there is
a program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with color
support. Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes it.

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On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Vibhu AV wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am now using color-xterm so that I can use the color
> features of pine 4.20. But, I have noticed that the redraw
> ...

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Look at the feature named "assume-slow-link".

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On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Pawel S. Veselov wrote:

> Hello !
>
> Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem.
>
> Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left side
> of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are colored
> and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced.
>
> Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything
> goes bad under screen terminal.
>
> So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ?
>
> Thanx in advance.
>
> Bye.
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote:

> I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there
> is a program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with
> color support. Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes
> it.

A little off-topic, perhaps, but can someone explain what "color support"
means in xterm? I can choose colors (background, foreground, cursor) in
the xterm I'm using now, but I assume that "color support" means something
more than that. For example, if pine is running in an xterm with color
support, and it is displaying html with <font color=xxx> in it, will it
show the appropriate colors? Can it do other cool things with colors?

Regards,

Mike

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Yes, there is. You just need to open up the custom dicionary file in a
text editor. Since I don't remember where PC-Pine's dictionary file is
stored, here's what I do with ANY spell-check program on my PC to correct
the dictionary:

Go to Start, Find, Files or Folders. Type the mis-spelled word in the
"containing text" field, either under the first or last tab. Make sure
it's searching for all file types on c:\ (or All Local Drives), and press
Find Now. You should get only a few results, one of which will be your
dictionary file. Open that file with a text editor (notepad, wordpad, or
your favorite word processor) and edit to your heart's content.

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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Freda B Birnbaum wrote:

> I use Pine on a Unix system, as well as having installed PC-Pine on my PC;
> it makes life VERY easy re storing and reading old mail once it's off the
> Unix account. The ability to add words to the dictionary (re the
> spell-check function) is not available on the Unix version (perhaps not
> enabled by the system administrator) but it is on PC-Pine as I set it up.
>
> My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error while
> I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I realize that
> I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the dictionary and remove
> words that you've added in error? (Of course, I do try to proofread
> things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Freda Birnbaum, [email protected]
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Yes. Just make a backup copy and be sure to keep the format the
same. (Don't add extra spaces, for example, or do any weird
word-wrapping).

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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Freda B Birnbaum wrote:

> I asked, re PC-Pine:
>
> > My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error
> > while I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I
> > realize that I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the
> > dictionary and remove words that you've added in error? (Of course, I
> > do try to proofread things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.)
>
> I do notice that there is a file in my C:\PINE directory called DICT.U,
> which appears to be a list of words, separated by commas, which I have
> added to the dictionary. Can I remove some of them with an editor without
> breaking something?
>
> Freda Birnbaum, [email protected]
> "Call on God, but row away from the rocks"
>
>

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Thnaks to Scott for the help!

And, of course

> Open that file with a text editor (notepad, wordpad, or your favorite
> word processor) and edit to your heart's content.

:-) Pico!

(Actually I really love VMS' EVE... sniff... sob...)

Thnaks again.

Freda Birnbaum, [email protected]
"Call on God, but row away from the rocks"

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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> Yes. Just make a backup copy and be sure to keep the format the
> same. (Don't add extra spaces, for example, or do any weird
> word-wrapping).

And Freda adds: Note that the file is ONE LONG LINE... don't hit
carriage-returns or justify it!

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On 99-10-19 Steve Hubert <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you answer No to the use role question, you will be put into the
> composer with your default settings. In 4.10 No canceled the reply, now No
> doesn't cancel the reply, it just means you don't want to use the offered
> role.

But it would still be nice to have the option of using ^N and ^P
to choose a role. In 4.20 you get a prompt like this:

Use role "pine" for Reply?
? Help Y [Yes] ^T To Select Alternate Role
^C Cancel N No Role

How about changing it to be something like this:

Use role "pine" for Reply?
? Help Y [Yes] D Default Role ^N Next Role
^C Cancel ^T To Select Role ^P Previous Role

I think of the default role as a role so to me "No Role" does not
make sense. If you need "N" to mean something you could make it
equivalent to "D" which I suggest above to mean "Default Role."
Also you do not need to say "To Select ALTERNATE Role" because
the role offered (in my case `pine') is in what ^T offers. "To
Select Role" is more accurate (and shorter too!).

Thanks for considering this,
Nancy

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Hello..
I am posting to this list for the first time.

I am a newbie system admin for a small private school's LINUX network. I
just added new students to the system, placing them in the same group as all
the existing students. When a new account tries to send mail in PINE a
message comes up:

Folder "sent-mail" doesn't exist. Create?

The user replies yes and then a message appears saying there is no sent-mail
folder, then it says no such file or directory exists, can't send to FCC.

The school runs PINE 3.96. All the preexisting users can send mail no
problem just the ones recently created are having this problem. The
operating system is LINUX 2.0.29

Any ideas?

Tom Sparks
Pacific Crest Montessori School Seattle Washington.

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Hello

In pine there are 17 different rules to choose from in order to decide
how to save a message to a folder. However these rules do not cover all
the cases, for example for a person with nick "Nickname" I may associate
folders "sent-Nickname" and "save-Nickname" for messages sent to and
received from the person defining "Nickname". There is no such a rule for
sent-mail, because ,at least for your nicks, you can define it at the
moment of adding the nick to your addressbook.

So I decided to write a patch for pine where one can define not only the
fcc for a nick in your addressbook, but also a "save-to" folder, which
will be the folder where pine will offer to save the messages of this
person. If nothing is defined, or the nick is not found, pine will use one
of the 17 rules for saved messages, according to your configuration.

The patch is only for pine4.10, I assume I will make it available in a
couple of days (when I adapt it) to pine4.20/4.21 (if this appears soon).
My transition to pine4.20 has been slow to say the least...

If you are interested, pick the patch from the address below, where more
information about the patch can be found.

Eduardo
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote:

> Look at the feature named "assume-slow-link".

Alternatively, check (with stty) the stated speed of your connection.
Even with an actually fast enough connection, this value can be set to an
artificially low value, at which point Pine will automatically assume a
slow link. (Yes, this happened to me, using TeraTerm with ttssh over an
ethernet connection. Resetting, via .profile, with 'stty 38400' if I've
connected with ssh has fixed this.)

> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Pawel S. Veselov wrote:
>
> > Hello !
> >
> > Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem.
> >
> > Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left side
> > of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are colored
> > and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced.
> >
> > Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything
> > goes bad under screen terminal.
> >
> > So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ?

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Check the permissions on their mail directories. Do they allow file
creation in that folder?

Also, I'd read up on the proper file permissions for some of Pine's files
and folders. They're kinda unintuitive.

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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, TOM wrote:

> Hello..
> I am posting to this list for the first time.
>
> I am a newbie system admin for a small private school's LINUX network. I
> just added new students to the system, placing them in the same group as all
> the existing students. When a new account tries to send mail in PINE a
> message comes up:
>
> Folder "sent-mail" doesn't exist. Create?
>
> The user replies yes and then a message appears saying there is no sent-mail
> folder, then it says no such file or directory exists, can't send to FCC.
>
> The school runs PINE 3.96. All the preexisting users can send mail no
> problem just the ones recently created are having this problem. The
> operating system is LINUX 2.0.29
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Tom Sparks
> Pacific Crest Montessori School Seattle Washington.
>
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Hi Tom,

How did you add those students to the UNIX box, did you add them manually to the
passwd file or did you use an add user script? The reason I ask, is that if you
didn't use a script, the home directories for those students may not exist.
Also Make sure that the home directories are owned by those users and not root.

You should also consider upgrading the version of PINE to the latest.
I hope that helps you some what, if you need to, feel free to email me with any
further questions!!!!

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TOM wrote:
>
> Hello..
> I am posting to this list for the first time.
>
> I am a newbie system admin for a small private school's LINUX network. I
> just added new students to the system, placing them in the same group as all
> the existing students. When a new account tries to send mail in PINE a
> message comes up:
>
> Folder "sent-mail" doesn't exist. Create?
>
> The user replies yes and then a message appears saying there is no sent-mail
> folder, then it says no such file or directory exists, can't send to FCC.
>
> The school runs PINE 3.96. All the preexisting users can send mail no
> problem just the ones recently created are having this problem. The
> operating system is LINUX 2.0.29
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Tom Sparks
> Pacific Crest Montessori School Seattle Washington.
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I've found a bug in 4.20 (it works perfectly in 4.10 BTW). The bug causes
a pine panic, received an abort signal, then crash.

To cause it, create a news folder (m s l) for server put (for example)
news.foo.net/nntp/user=user When pine tries to connect to the server it
says [>Invalid host specifier: news.foo.net/user="user"<] then gives me a
login prompt. If I cancel, nothing bad happens (except a lot of beeping -
can you fix that?) but if you put in the correct password, pine will crash
as mentioned above.

If you omit the user= part, then it works fine except that it uses the
local user - which isn't going to work for the news server. I tried
service=nntp too with no difference.

SunOS 5.5.1 Generic_103640-27 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2

Since I am on the subject can you _please_ put in a way for pine to _post_
to the correct news server!!!! I would be pleased if it was able to simply
realize that the server I'm connected to (i.e. I'm already in a newsgroup
on the server).

I realize that if you simply do compose, and type in a newsgroup it's not
going to work properly. But for compose when reading a newsgroup, or a
reply, it can find the correct news server to post to.

And you can add a server header, or do something like
Newsgrps: server/alt.newsgroup, comp.newsgroup2

Where server is the local nickname for a server as configured in the
folder list screen.

I regularly read newsgroups from 4 different servers, and posting messages
is getting to be a big pain.

-Ariel

PS. When is 4.21 coming out? :) Just asking because of the new flag bug,
plus this one, are a bit of a problem. And BTW I got the new flag stuck
bug also in 4.10 - I just don't know how to reproduce it, but it seems to
depend on the content of the message.

PPS. Another (small) bug report, if I get a message with a content-type of
text/html, but without a mime-version header, pine doesn't render the
message as html - and I think it should. The message might be out of spec,
but if there are no attachments (one part, non mime message) I'm not so
sure it's wrong to omit the mime-version, since it's not using mime really
- just a content type.

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On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Ariel wrote:

> PPS. Another (small) bug report, if I get a message with a content-type of
> text/html, but without a mime-version header, pine doesn't render the
> message as html - and I think it should. The message might be out of spec,

No, it shouldn't. Yes, the message is out of spec. We shouldn't support
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Does anyone know if there is a RPM package for pine 4.20? I would need
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Thanks for your answers!

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But that isn't the issue.... at least that wasn't _my_ issue. With 4.10,
you could change the role by using ^P and ^N from the prompt line, now you
need to use ^T which takes you to a new screen with all the roles
displayed, after selecting, you are returned to the prompt line and again
asked to confirm.

It's much easier just to go ^N ^N ^N Enter.

> - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's
> a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only
> one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the
> only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones.

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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote:

> If you answer No to the use role question, you will be put into the
> composer with your default settings. In 4.10 No canceled the reply, now No
> doesn't cancel the reply, it just means you don't want to use the offered
> role.
>
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Hello, Steve!

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote:

>Look at the feature named "assume-slow-link".

Alas, it turned off :(

[ skipped ]

>>Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem.
>>Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left
>>side of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are
>>colored and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced.

>>Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything
>>goes bad under screen terminal.

>>So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ?

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Hello, Mike!

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

>>I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there is a
>>program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with color support.
>>Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes it.

>A little off-topic, perhaps, but can someone explain what "color support"
>means in xterm?

xterm can show colors or not, despite of TERM environment variable.
Show, xterm supports color if he eligible to :) In fact, you can have
incorrect TERM variable, or termcap/terminfo entry. But if the xterm
supports colors, then you can force pine to draw colored text.

>I can choose colors (background, foreground, cursor) in the
>xterm I'm using now, but I assume that "color support" means something more
>than that. For example, if pine is running in an xterm with color support,
>and it is displaying html with <font color=xxx> in it, will it show the
>appropriate colors? Can it do other cool things with colors?

Confusing. The first question is about xterm colors, and the second is
about pine colors :) Since I understand, pine just doesn't have a feature
for html coloring. But, Lynx has, for example.

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Greetz...

I'm new to the list and have noticed several requests of how-to
procedures to configure PC-Pine for multi-user support, as well
as having it keep the user's password for future logins... I do
realize that keeping the passwords in an easily accessible file
is a definite security hazard, but some people who may be using
a simple peer-to-peer LAN or single machine system may not care
about the security issues.

I just recently downloaded PC-Pine v4.20, and have successfully
configured it to allow multiple users to automatically logon to
their individual POP3 accounts, by keeping their passwords in a
reference file after the initial login... Since some users may
use the same machine, in this case, (regrettably) a windoze '9x
box, I've created a folder with housing different shortcuts for
each user (user1's pine, user2's pine, etc)... To do this, you
will have to create a copy of the pinerc file for each user and
place it in the main directory for PC-Pine. (I used the naming
scheme of user1.prc, user2.prc, etc) Next, I'd suggest that you
edit each user's copy of the pinerc file to specify their login
name, and "home" directory.

Since pine creates a \MAIL directory on the current drive, I've
decided to place the entire package in that directory, and have
separate subdirectories for each user... (ie: \mail\user1, etc)
Pine will try to force each user to use a (nasty) shared folder
for common article types, so you'll have to specify each folder
name in their copy of the pinerc as in the examples below:

inbox-path={mail.ispname.com/pop3/user=user1}inbox

incoming-archive-folders=k:\mail\user1\archives.mtx
pruned-folders=k:\mail\user1\pruned.mtx
default-fcc=k:\mail\user1\sentmail.mtx
default-saved-msg-folder=k:\mail\user\savemail.mtx
postponed-folder=k:\mail\user1\postpond.mtx
read-message-folder=k:\mail\user1\readmail.mtx
form-letter-folder=k:\mail\user1\formltr.mtx
signature-file=k:\mail\user1\pine.sig
address-book=k:\mail\user1\addrbook.lu
...

If you would like pine to save a copy of the password after the
initial session, you may create a blank file called PINE.PWD in
the pine directory. Pine will then prompt the user if they wish
to save their password after the initial login...

After you create shortcuts for each user of pine you'll need to
edit the shortcut properties, and specify the associated pinerc
file for the user in the shortcut's target. Here is an example
target:
K:\MAIL\PINE.EXE -p K:\MAIL\user1.prc

I realize this is an extremely crude configuration method to be
setting up PC-Pine for multi-user support, but it's good enough
for me since I don't have the network worries. :)

Just FYI here: If for some reason you can't seem to find where
PC-Pine saved a copy of a folder, check the environment for the
location of the TEMP (TMP) directory (usually C:\WINDOWS\TEMP),
and also look in the "My Documents" folder in Windoze... :)

Hope this helps somebody!

Later,
Jacknife

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Greetz...

Just wanted to say that I messed up on my last post... There is
an easier way to config pine for multiple users on one machine.
The answer is to create a batch file which defines the variable
$HOME, and launches PC-Pine while pointing to the user's pinerc
file in thier home directory.

Here's a sample batch file with minimum info:

@ECHO OFF
SET HOME=K:\PINE\USER1
K:\PINE\PINE.EXE -p K:\PINE\USER1\PINERC

This will make PC-Pine act a bit more Unix-like, looking in the
user's home directory for all files and directories. Pine will
create a Mail directory under each user's home directory, which
will feel a little more like home for many of us. You will need
to place the PINE.PWD file under the user's home directory now,
since the main directory will not be searched.

Sample Directory Tree for Windoze Based Systems:

K:\Pine
+-- User1
| +-- Mail
| +readmail
| +savemail
| +sentmail
+-- User2
: +-- Mail
. +...

Again, I apologize for my last post... Kinda tired, and I'm not
thinking too clearly. (obviously) Anyway, hope this will clear
up any confusion from my last post. Oh, and forget about what I
said about editing the pinerc file to specify folder locations.
You won't need it with this setup. :)

Later,
Jacknife

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On 99-10-22 Jacknife <[email protected]> wrote:
> @ECHO OFF
> SET HOME=K:\PINE\USER1
> K:\PINE\PINE.EXE -p K:\PINE\USER1\PINERC

You do not need to override the HOME environment variable because
Pine will look in the directory where the pinerc file is for
user-specific files, e.g., pine.pwd. I've got info about this on
my "Setting Up PC-Pine for Power Users" in the section on
"Setting Up PC-Pine for Multiple Users," which is mirrored at:

http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#multUsers
http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#multUsers

Feedback is welcome!

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On 99-10-22 Jacknife <[email protected]> wrote:
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Hello Jacknife,

How do you use PGP and PC-Pine 4.20?

Thanks,
Nancy

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I am also having sorting problems in pine 4.20, but I am a unix system,
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On Solaris 2.6, with the downloaded pine binary, against Sun's solstice
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Arrival. I can reverse. Pine 4.10 worked fine.

I have the sources as well, if someone wants to give me some help on what
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On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Nancy McGough wrote:
> How do you use PGP and PC-Pine 4.20?

It's fairly simple, actually. (I'm using Windoze'9x, remember)
Once I've finished writing a message, I'll copy the text to the
clipboard and use PGP v5.0 to sign the text, and then place the
signed copy in the message body.

The process is similar to messages received with PGP info. I'll
copy the message to the clipboard, (using the > key a few times
will spawn a copy of the message body in notepad) and then I'll
do whatever is needed (verifying, decrypting, etc.).

I've not figured out how to have PGP integrated with PC-Pine to
where it'll automatically perform the needed functions. But to
tell you the truth, I've not really tried. :) Though you could
probably tweak a filter to parse PGP command-line parameters to
automate some processes.

Hope this helps,
Brian

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* Steve Hubert <[email protected]> writes:
> I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there
> is a program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with
> color support. Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes
> it.

*harrump* Make that xiterm, if anything. Probably better choices in
descending order: rxvt, Eterm (ever tried Eterm -t mutt?), konsole
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On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote:

> *** Mike Miller ([email protected]) wrote on Oct 14, 1999:
>
> :) Where is the best place to send bug reports? Should I be sending them to
> :) this list?
> :)
>
> According to my configuration file it says: [email protected]
> But I am also willing to know them, I guess it does not make a big
> difference if you post them here too :)

I reported a simple bug to pine-bugs several months ago, and am disappointed
to see that it wasn't fixed in Pine 4.20... So here is the bug again:

Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it.

My configuration: Pine 4.10 or 4.20 on DEC OSF1 V4.0. I'm using a custom
editor, but I don't think that matters, because repeatedly entering and exiting
my editor does not add blank lines to the end.

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote:

> Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it.

Yes. I have the same problem. If I've postponed something many times, I
have a long string of newlines at the end.

I think pine adds a newline to messages it sends out. Same for messages
it postpones. Could that be it? Similarly, pico adds a newline at the
end of every file it writes.

Mike

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Is there a system configuration variable that can be changed so there is
more information provided with forwarded mail with PINE. Right now, I have
in the body of the message

------Forwarded--------

Is it possible to add WHO it has been forwarded from?

Thanks,

Tom

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The default seems to be to include whatever headers were shown when you
read the message, but I can't find any configuration for it, in .pinerc,
pine.conf, or .pine.conf.fixed. Anyone else know where this option is?
What I did notice is that I get the header below if full headers are off,
but I get the full headers (below the -- Forwarded message -- line) if
they're on.

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Is there a system configuration variable that can be changed so there is
more information provided with forwarded mail with PINE. Right now, I have
in the body of the message

------Forwarded--------

Is it possible to add WHO it has been forwarded from?

Thanks,

Tom

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote:

> I reported a simple bug to pine-bugs several months ago, and am disappointed
> to see that it wasn't fixed in Pine 4.20... So here is the bug again:
>
> Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it.
>
> My configuration: Pine 4.10 or 4.20 on DEC OSF1 V4.0. I'm using a custom
> editor, but I don't think that matters, because repeatedly entering and exiting
> my editor does not add blank lines to the end.

Ummm, I don't see this behavior; Pine 4.20 on (now named) Compaq Tru64
Unix V4.0F. I can postpone right in a line, and when I get back into that
message, the cursor will still be sitting there at the end of the same
line (last character, basically). No extra returns from either Pine or
Pico...
jo

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Hi--

One of my users found this, and I've reproduced it in my pine 4.20
mailbox as well. What happens is this: If you read messages in a folder in
a scattershot manner, the "N" marker will be properly removed from each
read message, and it stays "read" even after you exit the folder and
reopen it. However, if you go to the beginning of a folder (whose contents
are all unread) and start reading messages from the beginning, the N's
will go away, but they reappear once you leave the folder and reopen it.

The best place to reproduce this is in the sent-mail folder. Go to
the top of the message list and read a few messages in sequence. The N's
are now gone. Now leave the folder and reopen INBOX, then go back to
sent-mail. The first few messages in the folder are marked "N" again.

Sounds like an uninitialized variable problem, maybe?

Thanks!

Brian

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I posted this on comp.mail.pine first but unfortunately haven't gotten a
solution to the admittedly relatively minor problems I've noticed.

1) It seems to me that pine 4.20 is now preferring to view text/html over
text/plain when both attachments are on a message. How can I get it to
view the text/plain version instead? I mean automatically, not hit 'v' then
go to the right one, hit return. I really wish this were the default.

2) I LOVE the ability to have URLs (and pseudo-URLs) hilighted and be able to
launch a web browser (Lynx) automatically. This kind of automatic user-
friendliness is what I think a lot of UNIX programs are missing, and it seems
like GUI influence has actually had a good influence in this respect. (Don't
get me wrong, I _love_ UNIX and prefer Lynx over GUI web browsers, and use
pine over GUI mailers even on these fast machines I have at work.)

But anyway, my annoyance is over the Y/N question it asks me when I hit return
on a link. Someone told me that the reason for this was so I could edit the
link. I did realize this function was there after hitting ^G at the prompt.
(I have the options list at bottom turned off).

I understand that, but I still think it would be GREAT to have another option
analogous to the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" (BTW, without this one
feature, I don't think I'd use pine... not like any of you care) for the
URL-viewing capability.

For example "enable-msg-view-urls-implicitly".

Thanks.

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On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jo Knox wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote:
>
> > Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it.
>
> Ummm, I don't see this behavior; Pine 4.20 on (now named) Compaq Tru64
> Unix V4.0F. I can postpone right in a line, and when I get back into
> that message, the cursor will still be sitting there at the end of the
> same line (last character, basically). No extra returns from either
> Pine or Pico...

Are you sure? Did you ^F as far as you could each time? It definitely
happens here. I postponed this message 4 times and it had 4 extra
newlines at the end when I was done.

Here's another bizarre 'feature' of pine/pico that might be relevant
(probably not, but it is interesting). If you use ^J (justify) on the
sets of lines below you will notice that it shifts them downward, and/or
separates them and adds extra blank lines to the text. If there are two
consecutive lines forming a 'paragraph' then it doesn't happen, but one
line alone does it. I have arranged the lines in a few different ways to
allow you to test this. Forward this message and edit it by using ^J on
the lines below.

Mike

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On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jo Knox wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote:
> >
> > > Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it.
> >
> > Ummm, I don't see this behavior; Pine 4.20 on (now named) Compaq Tru64
> > Unix V4.0F. I can postpone right in a line, and when I get back into
> > that message, the cursor will still be sitting there at the end of the
> > same line (last character, basically). No extra returns from either
> > Pine or Pico...
>
> Are you sure? Did you ^F as far as you could each time? It definitely
> happens here. I postponed this message 4 times and it had 4 extra
> newlines at the end when I was done.

My boo-boo; ^F shows the end advancing; I've never noticed it because Pine
remembers the cursor position within the message, and returns there every
time....

> Here's another bizarre 'feature' of pine/pico that might be relevant
> (probably not, but it is interesting).

Yep, I've noticed before that justify is sometimes somewhat unintuitive...
And occasionally, you need to use ^J^J rather than just once!

jo

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Hi,
I installed PC-Pine a few weeks ago and am having two problems
that I hope somebody can help we with. 1) Messages that I have read
during a past session (and left in my inbox) show up as new and
unread messages each time I log back in. 2) While logged in, my program
will not check for new emails. It doesn't matter how many seconds I
specify in my configuration file, it won't pull down news messages until I
end my Pine session and start a new one.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix these
problems?

Thanks,
Bryan Walton

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On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Bryan K. Walton wrote:

> Hi,
> I installed PC-Pine a few weeks ago and am having two problems
> that I hope somebody can help we with. 1) Messages that I have read
> during a past session (and left in my inbox) show up as new and
> unread messages each time I log back in.

Are you using Pine 4.20? If so, that was a known bug in early versions,
and I believe it has been fixed. Try downloading a new copy from ftp.cac.

> 2) While logged in, my program will not check for new emails. It
> doesn't matter how many seconds I specify in my configuration file, it
> won't pull down news messages until I end my Pine session and start a
> new one.

Are you using a POP3 mail server, or an IMAP one? If it's POP3, that's
the way Pine is designed to work. To get messages when they come in,
you'll need to close and open the folder, or close and open Pine if it's
your default Inbox (if you specify it as an Incoming-Folder, you can close
the folder without closing Pine.)

> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix these
> problems?
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan Walton
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> Bryan K. Walton
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> E-Mail: [email protected]
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Hi,
I'm just after joining this mailing list. I'm not sure if usual procedure
is to introduce yourself, but here's a very quick one:
I'm 17 years old, living in Ireland, just north of Dublin. I'm a
member of a local brass band, for which I run a web site at:
http://www.socc.ie/brass

My query is this: I have a list in my Pine address book of band members
and a few other people who have an interest in the band. I have no trouble
getting Pine to send a single message to all of these people, but the
problem is that you end up with everyone's name in the To: field!

But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send
a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name
in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of
people knowing their address.

I have scoured the Pine site, documentationa and this list's archives for
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Thanks in advance,
Trevor Johnston

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In order to do what you're asking,

man majordomo

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Trevor Johnston wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm just after joining this mailing list. I'm not sure if usual procedure
> is to introduce yourself, but here's a very quick one:
> I'm 17 years old, living in Ireland, just north of Dublin. I'm a
> member of a local brass band, for which I run a web site at:
> http://www.socc.ie/brass
>
> My query is this: I have a list in my Pine address book of band members
> and a few other people who have an interest in the band. I have no trouble
> getting Pine to send a single message to all of these people, but the
> problem is that you end up with everyone's name in the To: field!
>
> But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send
> a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name
> in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of
> people knowing their address.
>
> I have scoured the Pine site, documentationa and this list's archives for
> a solution, but no avail.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Trevor Johnston
>
>

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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Trevor Johnston wrote:
>But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send
>a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name
>in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of
>people knowing their address.

Not exactly answering your question, but giving you a workaround:

The usual solution to this problem is sending the mail to yourself on the
To line, with everyone else on the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) line.

Hmm, I saw no answers to my questions of yesterday (how to get text/plain
shown by default and how to get rid of the Y/N question for viewing URLs)..

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Trevor,

> But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send
> a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name
> in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of
> people knowing their address.

When your cursor is in the addressing area type CTRL-R to reveal some hidden
headers. There you will find the Lcc: headers. The "help" on this item is as
follows:

THE MESSAGE COMPOSER'S LCC FIELD

The "Lcc:" (List carbon copy) header is intended to be used when you wish
to send a message to a list of people but avoid having all of their
addresses visible, in order to reduce clutter when the message is
received.

It is similar to the "Bcc" (Blind carbon copy) header in that individual
addressees are hidden, but Lcc is designed to work specifically with
distribution lists you have created in your Pine Address Book. Placing
the nickname of the list on the Lcc line will result in the full name of
your Pine Address Book list being placed on the To: line of the message,
using a special notation that distinguishes it from a real address. You
must leave the To: line blank for your list name to appear there.

Hope this is sufficient.

Regards,
Ed

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On Thursday, 28th October, different people wrote:
> Not exactly answering your question, but giving you a workaround:
> The usual solution to this problem is sending the mail to yourself on the
> To line, with everyone else on the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) line.
>
> (control-R). This will give you "Rich Headers" (more headers); what
> you're looking for can be accomplished with either BCC or LCC!
>
> In order to do what you're asking,
> man majordomo
Wow! *Three* responses in half an hour - I suspect that this is unusually
good, but this is definitely the best mailing list I've yet joined.

Thanks to those who took the time to help: installing and learning
Majordomo would be too much work for what I need the list for. A quick
test of Bcc: shows that this is the way to go. And I never even knew why
it was there...

Thanks,
Trevor Johnston

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Trevor,

> Wow! *Three* responses in half an hour - I suspect that this is unusually
> good, but this is definitely the best mailing list I've yet joined.

It is unusually fast. :-)

> Thanks to those who took the time to help: installing and learning
> Majordomo would be too much work for what I need the list for. A quick
> test of Bcc: shows that this is the way to go. And I never even knew why
> it was there...

I would suggest a closer look at using Lcc: since a small mailing list was its
reason for having been created. If you use the Bcc: field and put the To: field
as yourself then it becomes difficult to do automatic sorting of incoming mails.
With the Lcc: field you get the name of the list and sorting is a breeze.

There are other potential drawbacks to the use of the Bcc: filed. If you place
an address in the Bcc: but forget to put something in the To: then some systems
will add the header "Apparently-To:" to the message. This field will then
contain all the addresses you didn't want to show in the first place.

Regards,
Ed

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Trevor,

> Whoops - upon receiving this message, I'll make use of Lcc: rather than
> Bcc:...never come across that in the Pine manual.

Good choice. :-)

Sometimes this mailing list it too fast.

Ed

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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Ed Greshko wrote:
> headers. There you will find the Lcc: headers. The "help" on this
> item is as follows:
Whoops - upon receiving this message, I'll make use of Lcc: rather than
Bcc: ... I never come across that in the Pine manual. Just what I was
looking for!

Thanks,
Trevor Johnston

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Hi:
In Solaris 2.7, with gcc, I want to compile the 4.20 pine with the two configuration files pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed in two diferent directorys
(for others hosts), I go to .../pine4.20/pine/osdep and in file os-sol.h I make:
..
/*----- System-wide config file ----------------------------------------*/
#define SYSTEM_PINERC "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf:/cnf/pine.conf"
#define SYSTEM_PINERC_FIXED "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed:/cnf/pine.conf.fixed"
..

and in .../pine4.20 I make:
/build gs5

but only work in /usr/local/lib , not in /cnf

I am a novice, but ... what am i doing wrong??
Thanks for any help

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Hi,

I am employing PC-Pine (currently v4.10) in a University's public
PC-Pool. Most people here write in German, English, or other
"western" languages, which are covered by the ISO-8859-1 char-set,
but there are also exchange students from other countries, who
would like to communicate in their native languages.

Is there any reasonably convenient way to occasionally read and
write messages in other encodings (mostly KOI8-R and ISO-8859-5)
in an environment that is still configured for ISO-8859-1?

Actually, it would help if it was possible to set the window font
to some other encoding (even though in the case of KOI8-R this
would probably make the menus unreadable). Is there any way to
do this? In the menu, there is only a choice between different
"western" fonts.

(One way that I already figured is to have people use the Windows
"notepad" as an external editor both for reading and writing
their email and set the font there to whatever they like - it
should work, but I hope, there is a better way ...)

thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Peter
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* Peter Daum <[email protected]> writes:
> Is there any reasonably convenient way to occasionally read and write
> messages in other encodings (mostly KOI8-R and ISO-8859-5) in an
> environment that is still configured for ISO-8859-1?

Using pine, this should be pretty difficult. It would most likely be
much easier to use MEW oder Gnus within a MULE (MUlti-Lingual Emacs)
XEmacs. It will happily grok all languages mentioned above.
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Those are just single files. There is no allowance for a path of config
files. You'll have to use a different binary on each system, or move the
config files to the same location.

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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Fran Gutierrez wrote:

> Hi:
> In Solaris 2.7, with gcc, I want to compile the 4.20 pine with the two configuration files pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed in two diferent directorys
> (for others hosts), I go to .../pine4.20/pine/osdep and in file os-sol.h I make:
> ...
> /*----- System-wide config file ----------------------------------------*/
> #define SYSTEM_PINERC "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf:/cnf/pine.conf"
> #define SYSTEM_PINERC_FIXED "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed:/cnf/pine.conf.fixed"
> ...
>
> and in .../pine4.20 I make:
> ./build gs5
>
> but only work in /usr/local/lib , not in /cnf
>
> I am a novice, but ... what am i doing wrong??
> Thanks for any help
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________
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>
>

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Subject: Bug with Sorting in Unix Pine - Possible Fix
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I have been having a problem sorting messages in Pine 4.20 on my Solaris
2.6 system. I think I have tracked down the problem.

I noticed in Pine 4.10, the sorting was done in pine/mailindx.c, in
sort_folder, line 4029, with

else /* copy ulongs to array of longs */
for(i = g_sort_prog->nmsgs; i > 0; i--)
msgmap->sort[i] = (long) sort[i-1];

In Pine 4.20, this has been moved to a callback routine,

mail_parameters(NULL, SET_SORTRESULTS,
(void *) sort_sort_callback);

It looks like while this callback routine is properly called from
mail_sort_msgs in imap/src/c-client/mail.c, the corresponding callback in
mail_sort_cache was left off. When Pine does an imap_sort with no
stream->scache, I drop into a call to mail_sort_cache which does
nothing. Depending on your server, this might explain why no one else is
having this problem.

Adding in the callback, I have no problems with sorting. Any comments?

Thanks a lot,

David Finberg

unsigned long *mail_sort_cache (MAILSTREAM *stream,SORTPGM *pgm,SORTCACHE
**sc, long flags)
{
unsigned long i,*ret;
/* pass 3: sort messages */
qsort ((void *) sc,pgm->nmsgs,sizeof (SORTCACHE *),mail_sort_compare);
/* optional post sorting */
if (pgm->postsort) (*pgm->postsort) ((void *) sc);
/* pass 4: return results */
ret = (unsigned long *) fs_get ((pgm->nmsgs+1) * sizeof (unsigned
long));
if (flags & SE_UID) /* UID or msgno? */
for (i = 0; i < pgm->nmsgs; i++) ret[i] = mail_uid
(stream,sc[i]->num);
else for (i = 0; i < pgm->nmsgs; i++) ret[i] = sc[i]->num;
ret[pgm->nmsgs] = 0; /* tie off message list */
/* Missing callback? */
if (mailsortresults) (*mailsortresults) (stream,ret,pgm->nmsgs);
return ret;
}

-- Dave

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Hi!

I am trying to use the sending-filters of Pine 4.20 (Linux) to
sign Mails with GnuPG on request. I thought That it would be OK to enter a
sending-filter under the configuration screen of PINE and then pine offers
me the choice to execute one of those filters each time i am sending a
mail. But Nothing happened after entering such a filter. Pine does nether
ask if it should filter the actual mail nor does it filter it without
asking.

What did I wrong? How do I tell Pine to use those filters, configured
under "sending-filters" (or so)???

Thanks for your nice help ;-).

Christian

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