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Subject: suggestion: recall failed GOTO
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I have Incoming, Mail and News folders. When I use G for GoToFldr, I
sometimes type in the name and forget that my default was Incoming when I
wanted a Mail folder. This must happen to other people. If you know what
I'm talking about, my problem is that I forget to hit ^N to cycle the
folder collections. Then I have to use GoToFldr again, but I have to
re-enter the folder name. So, since this probably happens to other people
too, I suggest the following:

Design pine so that when GoToFldr is used, if GoToFldr fails because the
folder name does not exist, and the current folder hasn't changed since
GoToFldr failed, when GoToFldr is re-entered it will have the last entered
folder name on the command line to be edited.

That will save us some keystrokes.

Thanks for considering this suggestion.

Mike

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While replying message through pine4.10 ,in To field address appears as
follows:
To: S Biswas<[email protected]@ma.bhel.co.in>

and error displayed as "To field: Unexpected characters at end of address:
@ma.bhel.co.in" .

where ma.bhel.co.in is remote mailserver.

Earlier when we were using pine3.91,there was no such error in reply mode.
i.e., in To field address appears as
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Kindly suggest solution.
Thanks.

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Or, even better, perhaps Pine could look for other folders of the same
name in other collections before returning an error? Perhaps include them
in a list-matches type screen?

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On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I have Incoming, Mail and News folders. When I use G for GoToFldr, I
> sometimes type in the name and forget that my default was Incoming when I
> wanted a Mail folder. This must happen to other people. If you know what
> I'm talking about, my problem is that I forget to hit ^N to cycle the
> folder collections. Then I have to use GoToFldr again, but I have to
> re-enter the folder name. So, since this probably happens to other people
> too, I suggest the following:
>
> Design pine so that when GoToFldr is used, if GoToFldr fails because the
> folder name does not exist, and the current folder hasn't changed since
> GoToFldr failed, when GoToFldr is re-entered it will have the last entered
> folder name on the command line to be edited.
>
> That will save us some keystrokes.
>
> Thanks for considering this suggestion.
>
> Mike
>
>

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When I send an email and get a copy of it back, the wrong time sent shows
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For example, I will send this now on Tuesday, August 3, 1999 @ 1:09 a.m.
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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email protected]>
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*** Scott Leibrand ([email protected]) wrote on Aug 2, 1999:

:) Or, even better, perhaps Pine could look for other folders of the same
:) name in other collections before returning an error? Perhaps include them
:) in a list-matches type screen?
:)

Hmm, restrict the search to local folders?. I would hate to have to wait
for pine to check non local folders which takes a lot of time.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html

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Yeah. Ideally you could make it configurable what to search, and you
could cancel the search without waiting for it to finish searching.
Unfortuanately, Pine doesn't let you very easily cancel the kinds of
operations that tend to take awhile. I presume that's because Pine has
called other services and is waiting for them to finish, but it still
would be nice to be able to cancel ANYTHING that's taking too long.

My $.02. :)

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On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote:

> *** Scott Leibrand ([email protected]) wrote on Aug 2, 1999:
>
> :) Or, even better, perhaps Pine could look for other folders of the same
> :) name in other collections before returning an error? Perhaps include them
> :) in a list-matches type screen?
> :)
>
> Hmm, restrict the search to local folders?. I would hate to have to wait
> for pine to check non local folders which takes a lot of time.
>
> Eduardo
> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html
>
>
>

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Hello. I just installed Pine 4.10 on my PC and would greatly appreciate
it if someone would be kind enough to tell me how I can save folders to my
local hard-drive. Alternatively, pointers to FAQs or manuals posted
on the WWW would also be especially welcomed.

Best

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I recently installed PC Pine on my desktop. During the
configuration/installation, a "mail" directory was created off of the root
drive. What types of files can be stored here or what should be getting
saved in here?

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On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Richard Tucker wrote:

> I recently installed PC Pine on my desktop. During the
> configuration/installation, a "mail" directory was created off of the root
> drive. What types of files can be stored here or what should be getting
> saved in here?

I figure that'd be where your local folders would go. Pine will take care
of it. I advise you to leave it alone. If something goes wrong... ask
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Could someone tell me if there is a way to export all the messages I have
in saved-messages to my home directory and ultimately my hard drive all at
once? Thank you. Am using pine 3.96.

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Catherine Thomas wrote:

> Could someone tell me if there is a way to export all the messages I have
> in saved-messages to my home directory and ultimately my hard drive all at
> once? Thank you. Am using pine 3.96.

I think this works in 3.96...

You must have 'select' enabled. Then, in that folder, use ';a' to select
all messages in that folder (I think you'll also have to 'Zoom'). Then
use Apply and Export to export all of the messages.

On the other hand, you can probably do this by simply copying or moving
the folder from the command line.

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I think this works in 3.96...
> You must have 'select' enabled. Then, in that folder, use ';a' to select
> all messages in that folder (I think you'll also have to 'Zoom'). Then
> use Apply and Export to export all of the messages.

Yes it works, at least up to apply. It worked on 3.95 :)

> On the other hand, you can probably do this by simply copying or moving
> the folder from the command line.

Yeh.

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I would like to suggest differing sort criteria for 'inbox' and all other
folders. I use the 'ordered-subject' because of how it works
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just thinking out loud.

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I would like to enquire whether I can delete any Viewed Messages?

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Kevin Metzger wrote:

> I would like to suggest differing sort criteria for 'inbox' and all other
> folders. I use the 'ordered-subject' because of how it works
> for incoming mail, but would like to sort by date in other folders that are
> used for archiving.
>
> just thinking out loud.
>
> kevin
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>

I too wanted to do this, and discovered that I could (under version
4.10) by setting:

sort-key=Date

for all folders, then using:

initial-keystroke-list=i,
$,
o

to put the INBOX back to ordered-subject. Give it a try...

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I like the pine Select feature (using the semi-colon) and wish I could
make even better use of it. My problem is that I often have to find a
collection of messages that are in different folders. I end up having to
reapply the same command in one folder after another. If only PINE could
search across multiple folders simultaneously!

Someone told that Pine 4.00 would implement this feature, and he directed
me this docoment ("Changes from Pine 3.96 to 4.00"):
http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/3.96-to-4.00.html
Where it says, "Select can search multiple folders."

>From what I see in using pine, this is not a very helpful feature. It
does allow me to identify folders that contain a certain string. Of
course, I could do essentially the same thing using "grep -il". With grep
commands I have more options (e.g., case-sensitivity).

What I want is something different. I want to be able to do the same kind
of Select (;) searching across folders that I can now do only within
folders. For example, I want to find every message with "Bob Thomas" in
the "To:" field in the mail folders "199904", "199905", "199906" and
"199907". Right now I'd do it this way:

cat mail/19990[4567] > mail/findbob

Then I'd go into pine, make findbob my default folder, and do the select
operation:

;ttBob Thomas

It would be fabulous if Pine could give me the same result without having
to create the mail/findbob folder. Maybe it could show a pseudo-folder
with listings like this:

199904:
1 Apr 22 Bob Thomas (1,699) You owe me big for this one

199905:
2 May 28 Bob Thomas (2,524) I'll accept only cash

199906:
+ 3 Jun 7 Bob Thomas (2,040) Meet me in the lobby
4 Jun 29 Bob Thomas (456) Where's my money?

199907:
+ 5 Jul 8 Bob Thomas (1,616) Pay me or you'll be sorry

If I could then Select, Apply, etc. from there, that would be superb. If
pine will never do this for me, does anyone know of a program that does
this now?

Regards,

Mike

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Hi Mike (et al),

YES! You anticipated my very email! I was just thinking of the exact
same thing, for the exact same reason! *grin* Is there any info on
whether Pine will have this feature not only for multiple folders, but for
folder collections?! If not, info on another program would be aprreciated
too.

BINO

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I like the pine Select feature (using the semi-colon) and wish I could
> make even better use of it. My problem is that I often have to find a
> collection of messages that are in different folders. I end up having to
> reapply the same command in one folder after another. If only PINE could
> search across multiple folders simultaneously!
>
> Someone told that Pine 4.00 would implement this feature, and he directed
> me this docoment ("Changes from Pine 3.96 to 4.00"):
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/3.96-to-4.00.html
> Where it says, "Select can search multiple folders."
>
> >From what I see in using pine, this is not a very helpful feature. It
> does allow me to identify folders that contain a certain string. Of
> course, I could do essentially the same thing using "grep -il". With grep
> commands I have more options (e.g., case-sensitivity).
>
> What I want is something different. I want to be able to do the same kind
> of Select (;) searching across folders that I can now do only within
> folders. For example, I want to find every message with "Bob Thomas" in
> the "To:" field in the mail folders "199904", "199905", "199906" and
> "199907". Right now I'd do it this way:
>
> cat mail/19990[4567] > mail/findbob
>
> Then I'd go into pine, make findbob my default folder, and do the select
> operation:
>
> ;ttBob Thomas
>
> It would be fabulous if Pine could give me the same result without having
> to create the mail/findbob folder. Maybe it could show a pseudo-folder
> with listings like this:
>
>
> 199904:
> 1 Apr 22 Bob Thomas (1,699) You owe me big for this one
>
> 199905:
> 2 May 28 Bob Thomas (2,524) I'll accept only cash
>
> 199906:
> + 3 Jun 7 Bob Thomas (2,040) Meet me in the lobby
> 4 Jun 29 Bob Thomas (456) Where's my money?
>
> 199907:
> + 5 Jul 8 Bob Thomas (1,616) Pay me or you'll be sorry
>
>
> If I could then Select, Apply, etc. from there, that would be superb. If
> pine will never do this for me, does anyone know of a program that does
> this now?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> --
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> Department of Psychology
> 210 McAlester Hall
> University of Missouri--Columbia
> Columbia, MO 65211
> Phone: (573) 882-5671
> Fax: (573) 882-7710
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Just to follow-up, the method I use now only works for one only folder
collection:

agrep -i -n -d "^From_" '<foo>;<bar>' <filename>

if I want to find something from a certain person in whatever files I list
(usually * for that particular subdir). This also lists the whole
message.

Just fyi. Any suggestions or improvements?

BINO

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I like the pine Select feature (using the semi-colon) and wish I could
> make even better use of it. My problem is that I often have to find a
> collection of messages that are in different folders. I end up having to
> reapply the same command in one folder after another. If only PINE could
> search across multiple folders simultaneously!

<CHOMP>

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Hi all,

1. I am using pine version 4.10. I have configured such that the
program xv is launched when I am looking at a gif/jpg file,
ghostview when it is ps file, acroread when reading a pdf file,
and netscape is launched when I am looking at a URL.

When xv, ghostview, or acroread is launched, it seems to go
in background. In other words, I can continue to read my emails,
and go into news reading, etc. as if the launching of the
"helpers" does not affect me. I can kill the helper programs
whenever I want.

However, when netscape is launched, it does not go in background.
The pine itself is suspended. I have to kill the netscape window
before I can continue with reading my mail or news in pine.

Is this a bug? Or is there an option I have to set, so that
netscape also is launched in background? Here is how I have set
my url-viewers:

url-viewers = _TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/is/bin/netscape
/usr/is/bin/netscape

2. On a different note, is it possible to include an attachment
(a gif/jpg file, or a postscript file etc.) in the middle
of the message body of the email? Some of the mail readers
lets me do that, but in case of pine, it appears that I can
include only at the "Attachments:" section. I would like to
attach in the body, to keep the flow.

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Vibhu A Veerabadrappa wrote:

<snip>

> However, when netscape is launched, it does not go in background.
> The pine itself is suspended. I have to kill the netscape window
> before I can continue with reading my mail or news in pine.
>
> Is this a bug? Or is there an option I have to set, so that
> netscape also is launched in background? Here is how I have set
> my url-viewers:
>
> url-viewers = _TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/is/bin/netscape
> /usr/is/bin/netscape

Change that command line by adding an "&" after the netscape so it reads:

url-viewers = _TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/is/bin/netscape &
/usr/is/bin/netscape &

This runs a process in the background. I'm pretty sure that's what you
need to do; someone confirm (I usually overlook something :)?

> 2. On a different note, is it possible to include an attachment
> (a gif/jpg file, or a postscript file etc.) in the middle
> of the message body of the email? Some of the mail readers
> lets me do that, but in case of pine, it appears that I can
> include only at the "Attachments:" section. I would like to
> attach in the body, to keep the flow.

That I wouldn't know about, but I'm thinking that it's not possible
currently with pine. You could always uuencode it and then insert it in
at the appropriate parts! I don't know if that would 'keep' the flow that
well though. :P~~

BINO

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Bino Gopal wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Vibhu A Veerabadrappa wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > However, when netscape is launched, it does not go in background.
> > The pine itself is suspended. I have to kill the netscape window
> > before I can continue with reading my mail or news in pine.
> >
> > Is this a bug? Or is there an option I have to set, so that
> > netscape also is launched in background? Here is how I have set
> > my url-viewers:
> >
> > url-viewers = _TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/is/bin/netscape
> > /usr/is/bin/netscape
>
> Change that command line by adding an "&" after the netscape so it reads:
>
> url-viewers = _TEST("test -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/is/bin/netscape &
> /usr/is/bin/netscape &
>

No. That does not work either...
:-(

> This runs a process in the background. I'm pretty sure that's what you
> need to do; someone confirm (I usually overlook something :)?
>

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I don't have problems with netscape freezing pine. On unix sunos and
versions from 3.96 to 4.05 I use the following:

In my ~/.pinerc I have

# List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references).
url-viewers=/usr2/SUN4/pine/stuff/pineURL

equake{snoke}28: cat /usr2/SUN4/pine/stuff/pineURL
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url=`echo $1 | sed -e 's/,/%2C/g'`

if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then
if [ -h $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then
/usr/local/bin/netscape -remote "openURL($url)"
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/usr/local/bin/netscape "$url" >/dev/null 2>&1 &
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fi

equake{snoke}29:

Thanks to John Kelso for this.

Arthur Snoke

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Arthur Snoke wrote:

> I don't have problems with netscape freezing pine. On unix sunos and
> versions from 3.96 to 4.05 I use the following:
>
> In my ~/.pinerc I have
>
> # List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references).
> url-viewers=/usr2/SUN4/pine/stuff/pineURL
>
> equake{snoke}28: cat /usr2/SUN4/pine/stuff/pineURL
> #!/bin/sh
>
> url=`echo $1 | sed -e 's/,/%2C/g'`
>
> if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then
> if [ -h $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then
> /usr/local/bin/netscape -remote "openURL($url)"
> else
> /usr/local/bin/netscape "$url" >/dev/null 2>&1 &
> fi
> fi
>
> Thanks to John Kelso for this.

Thank you very much. THis works....

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Some mailing lists offer the choice of subscribing to a digest foramt.

Is it possible to read concatenated mails of this kind as if they were
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Junichi Saito wrote:

> Some mailing lists offer the choice of subscribing to a digest foramt.
>
> Is it possible to read concatenated mails of this kind as if they were
> folders containing normal individual mails ? Are there stand-alone
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Interesting question. Some 'digests' come in MIME format (a collection of
attachments). If you can get it in that format, it works great in Pine.
You can save individual messages and then delete the digest, or you can
save the whole digest, or you can delete messages out of the digest and
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If the digest is not in MIME format, sorry, I don't know anything that can
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Better solution: I used to use digests, now I just receive the list
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that sorts the incoming mail into an Incoming-Folders collection. Pine
handles the separate incoming folders very well. It works great.

Regards,

Mike

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On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, thomas c squillante wrote:

> Whenever I insert text in a Pine e-mail note it strikes over instead.
> Then when I scroll I see that it was really inserted after all.

This sounds like a terminal problem. It really doesn't sound like
a Pine problem at all, as it is doing what you want it to...

> I dial-up to an HP UNIX server with HyperTerminal Private Edition 4.0.

HyperTerminal (if it's related to the HyperTerminal that ships
with Win95), is not known to be a good terminal program. That is
unfortunate. It's unfortunate that many terminal programs are not
``good'' for whatever reason...

Jessica

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On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, thomas c squillante wrote:
>
> > Whenever I insert text in a Pine e-mail note it strikes over instead.
> > Then when I scroll I see that it was really inserted after all.
>
> This sounds like a terminal problem. It really doesn't sound like
> a Pine problem at all, as it is doing what you want it to...

Hmmm - I'm not quite sure about this. I have the same problem when
pasting into an SGI winterm (in fact a wsh shell). The problem is simple -
the UNIX newline character is ^J, but in Pine ^J has an additional meaning
as the `Jusify Paragraph' command. What Pine sees coming in is a sequence
of lines separated by ^J characters, i.e. by Justify commands, and
acts accordingly - rewriting the paragraph after every `newline'.
Such a rewrite leaves the cursor at the end of the paragraph, and
therefore the next line is inserted at the end of the current
paragraph, rather than at the place the cursor was when the
^J arrived. This gives exactly the behaviour that Thomas describes.

What I don't understand is why I get this behaviour when I
insert into a winterm/wsh, but everything goes fine when
I insert into an xterm. Could anyone enlighten me on this?

Mark Peletier

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On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, Mark Peletier wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, thomas c squillante wrote:
> >
> > > Whenever I insert text in a Pine e-mail note it strikes over instead.
> > > Then when I scroll I see that it was really inserted after all.
> >
> > This sounds like a terminal problem. It really doesn't sound like
> > a Pine problem at all, as it is doing what you want it to...
>
> Hmmm - I'm not quite sure about this. I have the same problem when
> pasting into an SGI winterm (in fact a wsh shell). The problem is simple -
> the UNIX newline character is ^J, but in Pine ^J has an additional meaning
> as the `Jusify Paragraph' command. What Pine sees coming in is a sequence
> of lines separated by ^J characters, i.e. by Justify commands, and
> acts accordingly - rewriting the paragraph after every `newline'.
> Such a rewrite leaves the cursor at the end of the paragraph, and
> therefore the next line is inserted at the end of the current
> paragraph, rather than at the place the cursor was when the
> ^J arrived. This gives exactly the behaviour that Thomas describes.

Um, it's entirely possible that I didn't understand the problem.
Yes, this is a real problem that does exist when you do a ``text
transfer'' from any machine to pine. By text insert, I thought that we
were talking about doing a ^R, in Pine, which is a diffrent thing. Which
may appear to do what it sounds like it is doing, on a slow terminal (I
can't tell right now as I'm local to my Pine, and my system isn't loaded
enough that I can tell if it actually displays as it's inserting, or not).
This is STILL a terminal problem, as the terminal does not
recognise that it should use ^M for EOL, not ^J or ^M^J, or anything else.
It is unfortunate that Pine has chosen to use the ^J character for
Justify.
Considering that the initial message said something to the effect
of ``it looks like it is overwriting, but when I rewrite the screen it
has done what I expect it to do'' it does NOT sound like the same problem,
doing ^L does NOT change anything about the actuall contents, only clears
the screen and rewrites it.

> What I don't understand is why I get this behaviour when I
> insert into a winterm/wsh, but everything goes fine when
> I insert into an xterm. Could anyone enlighten me on this?

I have no familiarity with winterm/wsh. I'd say that you have
DEFINATELY proven that this is NOT a Pine bug, by showing that changing
how you access Pine changes the behaviour.

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Hi, folks!
I just signed onto this mailing list since I'm upgrading the colleges
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I posted a request yesterday and didn't see it or anything else--
am i not doing something correctly?

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Do any of you know of a way to invoke pine from a script, specifying
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On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Ed Arnold wrote:

> Do any of you know of a way to invoke pine from a script, specifying
> content of the "Subject:" line? I note that "pine -h" does not say that
> there is a -s (-subject) argument. Also, I've tried specifying
> "Subject: (unspecified)" in -default-composer-hdrs in .pinerc, but
> the value given for Subject in .pinerc is ignored, unlike some other
> fields (e.g. "Reply-To").

Can you explain more precicely what you are doing? You may want
to use a simpler tool that is designed more around what you want. Pine
typicialy is not called from script files, exept in some cases...

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Why bother? For a batch mail solution, which is what this is sounding
like, I'd just use one of the non-interactive mail binaries. Have I
missread your intent?

On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Ed Arnold wrote:

> Do any of you know of a way to invoke pine from a script, specifying
> content of the "Subject:" line? I note that "pine -h" does not say that
> there is a -s (-subject) argument. Also, I've tried specifying
> "Subject: (unspecified)" in -default-composer-hdrs in .pinerc, but
> the value given for Subject in .pinerc is ignored, unlike some other
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Thanks to Michael Seibel <[email protected]> for providing
the answer to my question. To start pine with these lines pre-established:

To: [email protected]
Subject: enough clowning around

use the following command line. (Mikes said I would have to encode
spaces in the subject value as "%20", but apparently that is
implementation dependent. "%20" produced spaces on my machine, but
plain spaces worked also.)

pine -url "mailto:[email protected]?subject=enough clowning around"

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Can anyone point me to a definitive list of pine commands. My internet
provider's version of pine is 3.96. Thank you It can be either in pine or
a document on the net. Thanks again.

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hi,
I want to set up pine.conf.fixed and pine.conf so that all users
can set their .pinerc to print to their locale printers. Some
*nix and some windoze users. (actually over 1k)

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Hello

I downloaded the pico-bin.linux file and I am trying to install it on my
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Hi, I don't know if this is the correct address, but here is my problem.

I have an application that generates an email with mime content,
'multipart/mixed' It is similar to a netscape message which has a combined
enriched / html content.

My problem is this: In pine, the message is unreadable. Pine gives an error
saying the message is corrupt. However, using Mutt and other mail clients, I
can read the messages just fine.

If anyone can provide me with details on how to solve my problem, or an
outine for the correct message format ( I reviewed the mime / eriched rfc's )
It would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Greeting From Pittsburgh,

Please pardon my ignorance of such things,
but after searching all over the Pine Info
Site, I could still not find the answers to
these basic questions:

- Is Pico available for HP UX?

- Where can I find and download PICO as the
stand alone editor without Pine?

- How much du space will pico use?

- Where's the next best Mexican food in
Washington D.C., other than Guapos?

Thanks,
DRH
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attached is the message which is giving me a problem. To see the problem,
just save the attachment to a file and open it with pine.

Thanks for the help.

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>From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Aug 12 14:37:54 1999
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Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
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If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created
with the data reset to initial values.

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Hello Paul McAvoy,

It has come to the attention of Jacob that you have been out-bid!

You no longer have the high bid on the following items:

<center><bigger> **** Item List *** </bigger></center>

<fixed> # Bids Last Bidder Player Year Brand, Desc </fixed>
===========================================================================

<fixed> 59 | 9 $ 3.25 miketmor Davis Ben, 1995 Topps ~ Traded Rookie 74T (OC)

60 | 10 $ 8.50 buendia Delgado Ca, 1992 Bowman ~ 127 Rookie

61 | 7 $ 8.50 HayesKol Delgado Ca, 1992 Bowman ~ 127 Rookie</fixed>

If you would like to re-submit new bids on any of the items you may visit the

following link:

<bold> http://auctomation.com/members/search.php3?cil=59+60+61 </bold>

<italic>-- Thank You! --</italic>

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Hello Paul McAvoy, 

It has come to the attention of Jacob that you have been out-bid! 

You no longer have the high bid on the following items: 

<center><big>**** Item List ***</big></center>

<table border=0 width="100%">

<tr><th>#</th><th>Bids</th><th>Last</th><th>Bidder</th><th>Year<th>Brand<th>Desc</th></tr>

<tr><td colspan=7><hr></td></tr>

<tr><td> 59<td> 9<td>$ 3.25<td>miketmor<td>Davis Ben<td>1995 Topps ~ Traded Rookie 74T (OC)</tr>
<tr><td> 60<td> 10<td>$ 8.50<td>buendia <td>Delgado Ca<td>1992 Bowman ~ 127 Rookie</tr>
<tr><td> 61<td> 7<td>$ 8.50<td>HayesKol<td>Delgado Ca<td>1992 Bowman ~ 127 Rookie</tr>

</table>

If you would like to re-submit new bids on any of the items you may visit the following link: 

<a href="http://auctomation.com/members/search.php3?cil=59+60+61">Click to Review</a> 

-- Thank You! -- 

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Hello Paul,

The only thing I could find was a "space", which made the difference.
Pine does not ignore a trailing space after the separation of the parts in
the message. This is a part of your headers and message:

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In your message, this separation has a trailing space, there's a space
over the "s" in the word ascii, which probably is the reason why pine is
complaining. When I erased that space (everywhere) I could read the
attachment and messages correctly.

I hope this helps. By the way, I also had to erase the character ">" in
front of the word "From", so as to make pine accept your mail format.

Have a nice day,

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html

*** Paul McAvoy ([email protected]) wrote Today:

:) attached is the message which is giving me a problem. To see the problem,
:) just save the attachment to a file and open it with pine.
:)
:) Thanks for the help.
:)
:) Paul
:)
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:)

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Dennis,

> Please pardon my ignorance of such things,
> but after searching all over the Pine Info
> Site, I could still not find the answers to
> these basic questions:
>
> - Is Pico available for HP UX?

Yes.

> - Where can I find and download PICO as the
> stand alone editor without Pine?

ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pine/unix-bin

> - How much du space will pico use?

-rwxrwxr-x 1 172 0 753848 Feb 4 1999 pico-bin.hpux10

> - Where's the next best Mexican food in
> Washington D.C., other than Guapos?

Call Bill. Word has it he knows.

Ed

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Is there any way to check to see if someone has accessed a message that
you sent to them? or even just to see if they have been logged onto their
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* E Hickey <[email protected]> writes:

> Is there any way to check to see if someone has accessed a message that
> you sent to them?

No.

> or even just to see if they have been logged onto their email?

If your admin sucks, finger will tell you that:
[rsocha@kens rsocha] finger root
Mail last read Mon Aug 16 15:29 1994 (EDT)
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On 16 Aug 1999, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> * E Hickey <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Is there any way to check to see if someone has accessed a message that
> > you sent to them?
>
> No.
>
> > or even just to see if they have been logged onto their email?
>
> If your admin sucks, finger will tell you that:
> [rsocha@kens rsocha] finger root
> Mail last read Mon Aug 16 15:29 1994 (EDT)

Um, ``if your admin sucks''?? I'm sorry I don't understand why
providing information is a ``bad thing'', maybe I'm totaly
misunderstanding... What can be really annoying is if your admin has not
configured finger so it does not produce output like:

[ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca]

Welcome to Linux version 2.0.29 at ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca !

2:24pm up 2 days, 18:49, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.05

Login Name Tty Idle Login Time Office Office Phone
jrasku Jessica Rasku 1 Aug 16 14:03 Box 270 (604) 362-9668

when you finge @domain... Ah, but that's NOT what you seem to be
talking about...

Jesica
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On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote:

> What can be really annoying is if your admin has not configured finger
> so it does not produce output like:

man finger

try finger -l user@host.

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On 16 Aug 1999, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> * E Hickey <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Is there any way to check to see if someone has accessed a message that
> > you sent to them?
>
> No.

It depends. In some systems you can check if mail was received by others
within the system. There is nothing that works in general.

> > or even just to see if they have been logged onto their email?
>
> If your admin sucks, finger will tell you that:
> [rsocha@kens rsocha] finger root
> Mail last read Mon Aug 16 15:29 1994 (EDT)

True. It is a security issue. In answer to Jessica's statements:
Disseminating more information is good for the *receiver* but can be very
bad for the sender. I use tcp_wrappers to block finger requests from
outside our cluster of machines.

Mike

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Hello,

I work at a company that is mostly microsoft at least on the desktop
machines. Myself I would rather run Linux, but I am experiencing one
problem. E-mail attachments!!! I think they are running exchange server
5.5 and I am running pine 4.1. Some attachments come through just fine
but others do not show up. The ones that don't show up, I can see that
the e-mail is large but I can't see the attachment. I was just wondering
if any one has experienced this problem. I am hoping that I have
something configured incorrectly. Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks,
Preston

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I received a message yesterday that was 66 MB and contained 565
attachments. A real whopper! My system can handle this, but it seems
that pine does not allow me to extract ('save' in pine lingo) all
attachments to files without doing every attachment one at a time. A
"Save All Attachments" command would be a nice feature.

I was able to use munpack (available for unix and dos) to extract all the
attachments. But to do that I had to save the *entire* e-mail message to
a file, and I couldn't find a way to make pine do it for me. (I used
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hi
i have been recieving emails with attachments and have been trying to save
these attachments through pine. i have been experiencing many
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On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> True. It is a security issue. In answer to Jessica's statements:
> Disseminating more information is good for the *receiver* but can be very
> bad for the sender. I use tcp_wrappers to block finger requests from
> outside our cluster of machines.

This is intresting. Yes, it can be a ``security issue'' but what
about people like myself who may be perfectly willing to have my
information avalable? Would it make any sence what so ever to have a
fingerrc file? I guess that could become a pain on a large system if you
may have to check if individual users have a .fingerrc file. I'm really
asking because the IDEA of it being configurable, is something that I
think would be good, but the practicalities may not allow it to work
``nicely''.

Jessica

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On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I received a message yesterday that was 66 MB and contained 565
> attachments. A real whopper! My system can handle this, but it seems
> that pine does not allow me to extract ('save' in pine lingo) all
> attachments to files without doing every attachment one at a time. A
> "Save All Attachments" command would be a nice feature.

Would be a nice option. Not sure how easy it would be to
implement...

> I was able to use munpack (available for unix and dos) to extract all the
> attachments. But to do that I had to save the *entire* e-mail message to
> a file, and I couldn't find a way to make pine do it for me. (I used
> emacs.) Can the pine 'extract' command be forced to write the entire
> message (including mime-encoded attachments) to disk?

Why don't you save the message to a ``new'' folder, thus creating
a copy in that folder. If you have a problem with getting it in the right
location, you can define a new folder collection. That's what I do at
least. It's easiest for me to save in the default collection and move it
if nesscesary...

Jessica

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>
> > True. It is a security issue. In answer to Jessica's statements:
> > Disseminating more information is good for the *receiver* but can be very
> > bad for the sender. I use tcp_wrappers to block finger requests from
> > outside our cluster of machines.
>
> This is intresting. Yes, it can be a ``security issue'' but what
> about people like myself who may be perfectly willing to have my
> information avalable? Would it make any sence what so ever to have a
> fingerrc file? I guess that could become a pain on a large system if you
> may have to check if individual users have a .fingerrc file.

In fact, current implementations of finger/fingerd already
check whether users have a .project or .plan file in their
home directory. Additionally checking for a .fingerrc
should therefore not be too much of an additional burden
on system resources.

Mark Peletier

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On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Mark Peletier wrote:

> > > True. It is a security issue. In answer to Jessica's statements:
> > > Disseminating more information is good for the *receiver* but can be very
> > > bad for the sender. I use tcp_wrappers to block finger requests from
> > > outside our cluster of machines.
> >
> > This is intresting. Yes, it can be a ``security issue'' but what
> > about people like myself who may be perfectly willing to have my
> > information avalable? Would it make any sence what so ever to have a
> > fingerrc file? I guess that could become a pain on a large system if you
> > may have to check if individual users have a .fingerrc file.
>
> In fact, current implementations of finger/fingerd already
> check whether users have a .project or .plan file in their
> home directory. Additionally checking for a .fingerrc
> should therefore not be too much of an additional burden
> on system resources.

Yes it theory it wouldn't be. But the only time it checks for
those is if it is producing the long listing. If you do an @hostname
look, by default the long listing is not displayed. The idea that I am
sort of thinking about is that there would be a global rc file which may
say something like:

no-show-in-short-listing
no-show-in-long-listing
no-match-in-real-name
no-plan-checking
no-project-checking
no-mail-checking

Those are the options that I'd see as most ``appropriate'', but then, if
someone did a finger @hostname, the user could over-ride, some or all of
these options. Unless the system admin put it in something like a .fixed
file. Anyways, what it would mean is that for each logged in user, there
would have to be a check for the .fingerrc file on a @hostname finger. It
COULD make for a fairly high system load...

Jessica

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* Jessica Rasku <[email protected]> writes:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:
>> I received a message yesterday that was 66 MB and contained 565
>> attachments. A real whopper! My system can handle this, but it seems
>> that pine does not allow me to extract ('save' in pine lingo) all
>> attachments to files without doing every attachment one at a time. A
>> "Save All Attachments" command would be a nice feature.
> Would be a nice option. Not sure how easy it would be to implement...

save to file, man uudeview - and you're there.
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* Jessica Rasku <[email protected]> writes:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:
>> I use tcp_wrappers to block finger requests from outside our cluster of
>> machines.
> This is intresting. Yes, it can be a ``security issue'' but what about
> people like myself who may be perfectly willing to have my information
> avalable?

Pick your poison: vanity or security.

> Would it make any sence what so ever to have a fingerrc file?

I have a .plan. It's linked to /dev/kmem.

> I guess that could become a pain on a large system if you may have to check
> if individual users have a .fingerrc file. I'm really asking because the
> IDEA of it being configurable, is something that I think would be good, but
> the practicalities may not allow it to work ``nicely''.

Get MySQL and Roxen or Apache with PHP (4 is out, Zend kicks ass) and put
up a luser database. This is OT - let's finish this thread.
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Is this the wrong mailing list for this question? If so could someone
point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Preston

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Preston Wade wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I work at a company that is mostly microsoft at least on the desktop
> machines. Myself I would rather run Linux, but I am experiencing one
> problem. E-mail attachments!!! I think they are running exchange server
> 5.5 and I am running pine 4.1. Some attachments come through just fine
> but others do not show up. The ones that don't show up, I can see that
> the e-mail is large but I can't see the attachment. I was just wondering
> if any one has experienced this problem. I am hoping that I have
> something configured incorrectly. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Thanks,
> Preston
>
>

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Try the usenet group: comp.mail.pine

:)

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Preston Wade wrote:

> Is this the wrong mailing list for this question? If so could someone
> point me in the right direction.
>
> Thanks,
> Preston
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Preston Wade wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I work at a company that is mostly microsoft at least on the desktop
> > machines. Myself I would rather run Linux, but I am experiencing one
> > problem. E-mail attachments!!! I think they are running exchange server
> > 5.5 and I am running pine 4.1. Some attachments come through just fine
> > but others do not show up. The ones that don't show up, I can see that
> > the e-mail is large but I can't see the attachment. I was just wondering
> > if any one has experienced this problem. I am hoping that I have
> > something configured incorrectly. Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Preston
> >
> >
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I am currently setting up pine to work with an imap server. All
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sorry to be a little OT here, but has anyone else had problems with pico 3.5
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Is there a way to have two separate Pine configuration files? I have
installed Pine on two different directories on my hard-drive and would
like to have one shortcut link to my personal E-mail account/address and
the other shortcut to my academic account/address. It seems that the same
SMTP, login, and other settings are retained in both shortcut links and I
do not know how to reconfigure the settings for my home account without
altering/losing the settings for my professional one.

Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Best

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On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Richard Tucker wrote:

> Is there a way to have two separate Pine configuration files? I have
> installed Pine on two different directories on my hard-drive and would
> like to have one shortcut link to my personal E-mail account/address and
> the other shortcut to my academic account/address. It seems that the same
> SMTP, login, and other settings are retained in both shortcut links and I
> do not know how to reconfigure the settings for my home account without
> altering/losing the settings for my professional one.

I've not used PC pine myself, I know it is designed for a ``single
occurance'' ussage. I guess there is a problem with some features if it
doesn't know where it is. Anyways, there are a couple of solutions that
could work (neither of them require having two copies of the program
avalable). 1) create a shortcut in Win95/98 or whatever, and have a
diffrent working directory. This will not work if the configuration file
locations are compiled into the binary. 2) Another option is to create a
small batch file which copies the ``relevant'' configuration files into a
working directory, and then back out (if nesscesary). Other ideas may
work also, depending on how PC Pine works...

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On 24/08/99 Richard Tucker wrote:

tucker>Is there a way to have two separate Pine configuration
tucker>files? I have installed Pine on two different directories
tucker>on my hard-drive and would like to have one shortcut link to
tucker>my personal E-mail account/address and the other shortcut to
tucker>my academic account/address. It seems that the same SMTP,
tucker>login, and other settings are retained in both shortcut
tucker>links and I do not know how to reconfigure the settings for
tucker>my home account without altering/losing the settings for my
tucker>professional one.
tucker>
tucker>Any help would be deeply appreciated.
tucker>
tucker>Best
tucker>
tucker>Richard Tucker

leave your professional config as it is

invoke pine with option -pinrerc at the unix prompt
$ pine -pinerc <filename> this will put a fresh pinerc file <filemane>

then invoke it with option pine -p < pinercfile>. here you edit it to suit
your personal needs

reagards
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On 24 Aug 1999, Richard Tucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there a way to have two separate Pine configuration files? I have
> installed Pine on two different directories on my hard-drive and would
> like to have one shortcut link to my personal E-mail account/address and
> the other shortcut to my academic account/address. It seems that the same
> SMTP, login, and other settings are retained in both shortcut links and I
> do not know how to reconfigure the settings for my home account without
> altering/losing the settings for my professional one.

I have information about this on my "Setting Up PC-Pine for Power
Users" page. Here's the table of contents for the page:

* Why Use PC-Pine Rather than Unix Pine in a Telnet Window?
* Before You Begin
* Configuration Overview
+ How PC-Pine Finds User Files
+ Why Separate Program Files and User Files?
+ Why Put User Files in a "Home" Directory?
+ Naming the Directory Where Your Messages are Stored
+ Naming Other Directories
* Typographic Conventions and Terminology Used in These Instructions
* Step by Step Through Downloading and Setting Up PC-Pine
1. Downloading and Unzipping PC-Pine
2. Setting Up Directories and Environment Variables
3. Running Pine the First Time and Setting Essential Pine Variables
4. Feature-List Settings
5. Setting Up Local and Remote Folder Collections
6. Creating an IMAP-Accessible Address Book
7. Copying Addresses in a Local Address Book to an IMAP-Accessible Address Book
8. Testing and Quitting
9. Cleaning Up
* Putting a Shortcut to Your Default Inbox on Your Desktop and Start Menu
* Avoiding MS Word Macro Viruses
* Speeding Up PC-Pine
* Checking for New Messages
* Quick Editing of Pinerc, Mailcap, and Other Files with No File Extension
* Setting Up PC-Pine for Multiple Users
* Switching Your SMTP and NNTP Servers for Different ISP Connections
* Using PC-Pine When You're Offline
* Moving Messages from a Remote Server to Your PC
* Automatically Copying Your IMAP-Accessible Address Book to Your Local Address Book
* Using PC-Pine to Access a POP Inbox

The section you're probably interested in is "Switching Your SMTP
and NNTP Servers for Different ISP Connections." The page is mirrored
at:

Primary: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/
Backup: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/messaging/pine/pc/

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I would like to know how to change login date and time, if anyone know
please help me. Thanks
Brandon

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Quoting Brandon Le ([email protected]):
> I would like to know how to change login date and time, if anyone know
> please help me.

Move further West, Brandon. Cute sig BTW.
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> Quoting Brandon Le ([email protected]):
> > I would like to know how to change login date and time, if anyone know
> > please help me.
>
> Move further West, Brandon. Cute sig BTW.

Moving further East would also be effective.

Both sigs suck. :-) :-)

Ed

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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Both sigs suck. :-) :-)

RSS: Bait swallowed.

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> RSS: Bait swallowed.

Hummm, Gull Able. He was right....

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> www.blr.sc.philips.com/~sreeram

Instead of the above line, if you have:
http://www.blr.sc.philips.com/~sreeram
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as a url and highlight it. This will enable users to jump
to it and open the url directly.

In pine, this feature is got by turning on:

enable-msg-view-urls

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On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Richard Tucker wrote:

> Is there a way to have two separate Pine configuration
> files? I have installed Pine on two different directories
> on my hard-drive and would like to have one shortcut link
> to my personal E-mail account/address and the other
> shortcut to my academic account/address. It seems that
> the same SMTP, login, and other settings are retained in
> both shortcut links and I do not know how to reconfigure
> the settings for my home account without altering/losing
> the settings for my professional one.

Another option is to use multiple incoming folders.

incoming-folders=/usr/spool/mail/$USER,
"MailAndNews" {mailandnews.com:143}INBOX,
"telebot.net" {imap.telebot.net:143}INBOX

My INBOX is our GroupWise imap server. incoming-folders in
my .pinerc makes it easy for me to check mail on my unix
system and the imap servers at MailAndNews.com and
telebot.net. I have to supply my username and password for
each imap server. All outgoing mail uses the smtp server at
co.clark.nv.us. At home I would have to use my ISP's SMTP
server.

folder-collections=mail/[],
{MailAndNews.com:143}[]

folder-collections is handy for saving my e-mail. I only
use my unix host and MailAndNews.

Also, all my replies come from [email protected] and use
the same .signature file. This can be solved with roles in
v4.10 but I'm still using v3.95.

I use Unix Pine so take all of this with some salt.

------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact -------------
------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. -------------
Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT
Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932
[email protected] (not work) PO Box 551761
[email protected] (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA
-------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ ---------------------

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I've recently begun using sorting by Ordered Subject in PC-Pine 4.10.
Twice it has crashed on me as follows:

Sorting by OrderedSubj
about to end_tty_driver
Pine Panic: Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt, nmsgs = 632

save_debug_on_crash: Version 4.10: debug level 2

This was when the mailbox had 631 messages at the time the sort
command was given, so it looks like the sort and incorporation of new
mail are confusing each other.

Is this a known bug? (I looked on PIC for a buglist, but didn't see
one).
-- Steve

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Apologies if this is in the wrong place:

I need to change the To: address when I reply to an email, depending on
it's from: address. Like, I get an email from [email protected], and hit Reply,
pine should change the To: address from [email protected] to [email protected],
because the from: address was [email protected]. Is this possible? How?

Pine 4.10 on Linux Redhat 6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15. I am root, don't grok
sendmail properly. Don't grok procmail.

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email protected]>
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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Vibhu AV wrote:

> Instead of the above line, if you have:
> http://www.blr.sc.philips.com/~sreeram
> then most email readers (such as pine) will identify it
> as a url and highlight it. This will enable users to jump
> to it and open the url directly.
>
> In pine, this feature is got by turning on:
>
> enable-msg-view-urls

I'm not sure precicely when this showed up, but sometime between
3.96 and 4.05. It will be a long time before 4.05 is ``standard'', as
many ISPs don't upgrade software unless they see a definate need for it,
same with Universities and such. I upgraded Pine because it was sugested
as a possible fix for a display problem I had (related to dial in users,
who have ``noncompliant'' ANSI or VT100 terminal emulation...

Jessica

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From: James Kirkpatrick <[email protected]>
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Subject: .pinerc not coming from pine.conf?
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We recently upgraded from Pine 3.96 to 4.10, and noticed that new pine
users' .pinerc files do not seem to include customizations from the
pine.conf file, as happened in 3.96. For example, nntp-server. The debug
file shows it's being found in pine.conf, but examining .pinerc after the
first run shows it set to null.

The only unusual thing I can think of is that pine.conf.fixed is very
short (i.e. it does not repeat settings in pine.conf) but that worked fine
in 3.96.

I'll append the debug file, below. The test user (tcall) can read the
pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed via "more", and the debug file confirms
this.

Puzzled,

Jim Kirkpatrick
[email protected] (the "other" UW :-)

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debug file:

Debug output of the Pine program (debug=2 debug_imap=0). Version 4.10
Fri Aug 27 15:08:58 1999

reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf"
Read 11399 characters:
reading_pinerc "/home/tcall/.pinerc"
Open failed: No such file or directory
reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed"
Read 1149 characters:
---- write_pinerc ----
write_pinerc: pinerc_written = 935788138
======= Current_val options set =======
user-domain : uwyo.edu
nntp-server : news.uwyo.edu
inbox-path : inbox
folder-collections : mail/[]
default-fcc : ""
default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages
postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
mail-directory : mail
read-message-folder : mail
signature-file : .signature
address-book : .addressbook
feature-list : auto-move-read-msgs
: delete-skips-deleted
: enable-aggregate-command-set
: enable-alternate-editor-cmd
: enable-background-sending
: enable-bounce-cmd
: enable-dot-files
: enable-dot-folders
: enable-flag-cmd
: enable-full-header-cmd
: enable-jump-shortcut
: enable-suspend
: enable-tab-completion
: enable-unix-pipe-cmd
: expunge-without-confirm
: quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
sort-key : arrival
addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
folder-sort-rule : alphabetical
composer-wrap-column : 74
reply-indent-string : >
reply-leadin : default
empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients
use-only-domain-name : no
printer : attached-to-ansi
standard-printer : lp
last-version-used : 4.10
bugs-fullname : Pine Developers
bugs-address : [email protected]
suggest-fullname : Pine Developers
suggest-address : [email protected]
local-fullname : Local Support
local-address : postmaster
kblock-passwd-count : 1
viewer-overlap : 2
scroll-margin : 0
status-message-delay : 0
mail-check-interval : 150
user-input-timeout : 0
remote-abook-history : 3
elm-style-save : no
header-in-reply : no
feature-level : sapling
old-style-reply : no
save-by-sender : no
======= Command_line_val options set =======
======= User_val options set (/home/tcall/.pinerc) =======
last-version-used : 4.10
======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) =======
nntp-server : news.uwyo.edu
inbox-path : inbox
folder-collections : mail/[]
default-fcc : ""
default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages
postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
mail-directory : mail
read-message-folder : mail
signature-file : .signature
address-book : .addressbook
feature-list : auto-move-read-msgs
: delete-skips-deleted
: enable-aggregate-command-set
: enable-alternate-editor-cmd
: enable-background-sending
: enable-bounce-cmd
: enable-dot-files
: enable-dot-folders
: enable-flag-cmd
: enable-full-header-cmd
: enable-jump-shortcut
: enable-suspend
: enable-tab-completion
: enable-unix-pipe-cmd
: expunge-without-confirm
: quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
sort-key : arrival
addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
folder-sort-rule : alphabetical
composer-wrap-column : 74
reply-indent-string : >
reply-leadin : default
empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients
use-only-domain-name : no
printer : attached-to-ansi
standard-printer : lp
bugs-fullname : Pine Developers
bugs-address : [email protected]
suggest-fullname : Pine Developers
suggest-address : [email protected]
local-fullname : Local Support
local-address : postmaster
kblock-passwd-count : 1
viewer-overlap : 2
scroll-margin : 0
status-message-delay : 0
mail-check-interval : 150
user-input-timeout : 0
remote-abook-history : 3
elm-style-save : no
header-in-reply : no
feature-level : sapling
old-style-reply : no
save-by-sender : no
======= Fixed_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed) =======
user-domain : uwyo.edu
========== Feature settings ==========
no-compose-cut-from-cursor
no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d
no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs
no-compose-send-offers-first-filter
enable-alternate-editor-cmd
no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly
no-enable-search-and-replace
no-enable-sigdashes
quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file
no-enable-reply-indent-string-editing
no-include-attachments-in-reply
no-include-header-in-reply
no-include-text-in-reply
no-reply-always-uses-reply-to
no-signature-at-bottom
no-strip-from-sigdashes-on-reply
no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation
enable-background-sending
no-enable-delivery-status-notification
no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting
no-fcc-on-bounce
no-fcc-only-without-confirm
no-fcc-without-attachments
no-use-sender-not-x-sender
no-combined-subdirectory-display
no-combined-folder-display
enable-dot-folders
no-enable-incoming-folders
no-enable-lame-list-mode
no-expanded-view-of-folders
no-quell-empty-directories
no-separate-folder-and-directory-entries
no-single-column-folder-list
no-vertical-folder-list
no-combined-addrbook-display
no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks
no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists
no-auto-open-next-unread
delete-skips-deleted
no-enable-cruise-mode
no-enable-cruise-mode-delete
no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only
no-enable-msg-view-attachments
no-enable-msg-view-urls
no-enable-msg-view-web-hostnames
no-enable-msg-view-addresses
no-enable-msg-view-forced-arrows
no-pass-control-characters-as-is
no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm
no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting
no-news-approximates-new-status
no-news-deletes-across-groups
no-news-post-without-validation
no-news-read-in-newsrc-order
no-enable-print-via-y-command
no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt
no-print-includes-from-line
no-print-index-enabled
no-print-formfeed-between-messages
enable-aggregate-command-set
no-enable-arrow-navigation
no-enable-arrow-navigation-relaxed
enable-bounce-cmd
no-enable-exit-via-lessthan-command
enable-flag-cmd
no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly
enable-full-header-cmd
no-enable-goto-in-file-browser
enable-jump-shortcut
no-enable-partial-match-lists
enable-tab-completion
enable-unix-pipe-cmd
no-allow-talk
no-assume-slow-link
auto-move-read-msgs
no-auto-unzoom-after-apply
no-auto-zoom-after-select
no-confirm-role-even-for-default
enable-dot-files
no-enable-fast-recent-test
no-enable-mail-check-cue
no-enable-mouse-in-xterm
no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon
enable-suspend
expunge-without-confirm
no-expunge-without-confirm-everywhere
no-preserve-start-stop-characters
no-quell-folder-internal-msg
no-quell-lock-failure-warnings
no-quell-status-message-beeping
no-quit-without-confirm
no-save-will-advance
no-save-will-not-delete
no-save-will-quote-leading-froms
no-select-without-confirm
no-show-cursor
no-show-plain-text-internally
no-show-selected-in-boldface
no-use-current-dir
no-use-function-keys
no-use-subshell-for-suspend
no-allow-changing-from
no-disable-config-cmd
no-disable-busy-alarm
no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd
no-disable-keymenu
no-disable-password-cmd
no-disable-roles-setup-cmd
no-disable-roles-sig-edit
no-disable-roles-template-edit
no-disable-take-last-comma-first
no-disable-signature-edit-cmd
no-quell-imap-envelope-update
no-quell-partial-fetching
no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence
no-termdef-takes-precedence
Userid: tcall
Fullname: "Thomas Call"
User domain name being used "uwyo.edu"
Local Domain name being used "uwyo.edu"
Host name being used "asuwlink.uwyo.edu"
Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"uwyo.edu"
Context mail/%s: serv:"", ref:"", view: ""
new win size -----<24 80>------
Terminal type: dtterm
Context mail/%s: serv:"", ref:"", view: ""
Context {news.uwyo.edu/nntp}#news.%s: serv:news.uwyo.edu/nntp, ref:"", view: ""
-- html?: HTML
-- html?: BODY
-- html?: BODY
-- html?: HTML
done.
About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX"
Opened folder "inbox" with 0 messages
Sorting by Arrival
---- write_pinerc ----
write_pinerc: pinerc_written = 935788140

---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ----

---- QUIT SCREEN ----
Want_to read: y (121)
- completely_done_with_adrbks -
expunge and close mail stream "inbox"
about to end_tty_driver

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The pine.conf file:

# /usr/local/lib/pine.conf -- system wide pine configuration
#
# Values here affect all pine users unless they've overidden the values
# in their .pinerc files. A copy of this file with current comments may
# be obtained by running "pine -conf". It will be printed to standard output.
#
# For a variable to be unset its value must be null/blank. This is not the
# same as the value of "empty string", which can be used to effectively
# "unset" a variable that has a default or previously assigned value.
# To set a variable to the empty string its value should be "".
# Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and default to "no".
# Except for feature-list items, which are additive, values set in the
# .pinerc file replace those in pine.conf, and those in pine.conf.fixed
# over-ride all others. Features can be over-ridden in .pinerc or
# pine.conf.fixed by pre-pending the feature name with "no-".
#
# (These comments are automatically inserted.)

feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs,
delete-skips-deleted,
enable-aggregate-command-set,
enable-alternate-editor-cmd,
enable-background-sending,
enable-bounce-cmd,
enable-dot-files,
enable-dot-folders,
enable-flag-cmd,
enable-full-header-cmd,
enable-jump-shortcut,
enable-suspend,
enable-tab-completion,
enable-unix-pipe-cmd,
expunge-without-confirm,
quell-dead-letter-on-cancel

# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
smtp-server=

# NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading.
nntp-server=news.uwyo.edu

# Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox
# Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
inbox-path=

# List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox
# Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path
incoming-folders=

# List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is
# the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[]
# Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[]
folder-collections=

# List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host
# than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[]
# Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[]
news-collections=

# List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the
# second indicates the folder read messages in the first should
# be moved to.
incoming-archive-folders=

# List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for
# pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble
pruned-folders=

# Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first
# folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
# Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection.
default-fcc=""

# Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first
# folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
# Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection.
default-saved-msg-folder=

# Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses
# first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4).
# Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn.
postponed-folder=

# Pine compares this value with the first folder collection directory.
# If they match (or no folder collections are defined), and the directory
# does not exist, Pine will create and use it. Default: ~/mail
mail-directory=

# If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting.
read-message-folder=mail

# Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature
signature-file=

# List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s).
# Default: none
# Syntax: optnl-label path-name
global-address-book=

# List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s).
# Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC)
# Syntax: optnl-label path-name
address-book=

# List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set.
# e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom
# Default condition for all of the features is no-.
feature-list=

# Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v)
initial-keystroke-list=

# Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages
default-composer-hdrs=

# Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing
customized-hdrs=

# When viewing messages, include this list of headers
viewer-hdrs=

# Determines default folder name for Saves...
# Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used.
# Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC).
saved-msg-name-rule=

# Determines default name for Fcc...
# Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used.
# Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.)
fcc-name-rule=

# Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices:
# subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival".
sort-key=

# Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort,
# fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname
# Default: "fullname-with-lists-last".
addrbook-sort-rule=

# Sets the default folder and collectionoffered at the Goto Command's prompt.
goto-default-rule=

# Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII.
# Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9).
character-set=

# Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer,
# or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature.
editor=

# Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer.
speller=

# Specifies the column of the screen where the composer should wrap.
composer-wrap-column=

# Specifies the string to insert when replying to message.
reply-indent-string=

# Specifies the string to use when sending a message with no to or cc.
empty-header-message=

# Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments).
image-viewer=

# If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only)
use-only-domain-name=

# Your default printer selection
printer=

# List of special print commands
personal-print-command=

# The system wide standard printers
standard-printer=

# Full name for bug report address used by "Report Bug" command.
# Default: Pine Developers
bugs-fullname=

# Email address used to send bug reports.
# Default: [email protected]
bugs-address=

# Program/Script used by "Report Bug" command. No default.
bugs-additional-data=

# Full name for suggestion address used by "Report Bug" command.
# Default: Pine Developers
suggest-fullname=

# Email address used to send suggestions.
# Default: [email protected]
suggest-address=

# Full name for "local support" address used by "Report Bug" command.
# Default: Local Support
local-fullname=

# Email address used to send to "local support".
# Default: postmaster
local-address=

# Force these address book entries into all writable personal address books.
# Syntax is forced-abook-entry=nickname|fullname|address
# This is a comma-separated list of entries, each with syntax above.
# Existing entries with same nickname are not replaced.
# Example: help|Help Desk|[email protected]
forced-abook-entry=

# This is a number between 1 and 5. It is the number of times a user will
# have to enter a password when they run the keyboard lock command in the
# main menu. Default is 1.
kblock-passwd-count=

# This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments,
# to be used in posting mail messages. Example:
# /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi
# or,
# /usr/local/bin/sendit.sh
# The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory.
# NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input,
# AND operate in the style of sendmail's "-t" option.
sendmail-path=

# This names the root of the tree to which the user is restricted when reading
# and writing folders and files. For example, on Unix ~/work confines the
# user to the subtree beginning with their work subdirectory.
# (Note: this alone is not sufficient for preventing access. You will also
# need to restrict shell access and so on, see Pine Technical Notes.)
# Default: not set (so no restriction)
operating-dir=

# This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into
# after MIME decoding, prior to display.
display-filters=

# This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME
# encoding, prior to sending
sending-filters=

# A list of alternate addresses the user is known by
alt-addresses=

# This is a list of formats for address books. Each entry in the list is made
# up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in
# which order. See help text
addressbook-formats=

# This gives a format for displaying the index. It is made
# up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in
# which order. See help text
index-format=

# The number of lines of overlap when scrolling through message text
viewer-overlap=

# Number of lines from top and bottom of screen where single
# line scrolling occurs.
scroll-margin=

# The number of seconds to sleep after writing a status message
status-message-delay=

# The approximate number of seconds between checks for new mail
mail-check-interval=

# Full path and name of NEWSRC file
newsrc-path=

# Path and filename of news configation's active file.
# The default is typically "/usr/lib/news/active".
news-active-file-path=

# Directory containing system's news data.
# The default is typically "/usr/spool/news"
news-spool-directory=

# Path and filename of the program used to upload text from your terminal
# emulator's into Pine's composer.
upload-command=

# Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by
# the upload-command variable.
# Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the upload.
upload-command-prefix=

# Path and filename of the program used to download text via your terminal
# emulator from Pine's export and save commands.
download-command=

# Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by
# the download-command variable.
# Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the downlaod.
download-command-prefix=

# Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file.
# NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2.
mailcap-search-path=

# Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file.
# NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2.
mimetype-search-path=

# Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a network
# connection. The default is 30, the minimum is 5, and the maximum is
# system defined (typically 75).
tcp-open-timeout=

# Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote
# shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited.
# Zero disables rsh altogether.
rsh-open-timeout=

# Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering
# its new version message on startup.
new-version-threshold=

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

The pine.conf.fixed file:

# /usr/local/lib/pine.conf -- system wide pine configuration
#
# Values here affect all pine users unless they've overidden the values
# in their .pinerc files. A copy of this file with current comments may
# be obtained by running "pine -conf". It will be printed to standard output.
#
# For a variable to be unset its value must be null/blank. This is not the
# same as the value of "empty string", which can be used to effectively
# "unset" a variable that has a default or previously assigned value.
# To set a variable to the empty string its value should be "".
# Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and default to "no".
# Except for feature-list items, which are additive, values set in the
# .pinerc file replace those in pine.conf, and those in pine.conf.fixed
# over-ride all others. Features can be over-ridden in .pinerc or
# pine.conf.fixed by pre-pending the feature name with "no-".
#
# (These comments are automatically inserted.)

# Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine.
personal-name=

# Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
user-domain=uwyo.edu

---------------------------------------------------------------------

The resulting .pinerc file:

# Updated by Pine(tm) 4.10, copyright 1989-1999 University of Washington.
#
# Pine configuration file -- customize as needed.
#
# This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you
# are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration
# file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in
# this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about
# specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine
# notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set.
# For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated
# by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a
# continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value
# must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should
# be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the
# empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and
# default to "no".
# Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine.

# Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine.
personal-name=

# Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
user-domain=

# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
smtp-server=

# NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading.
nntp-server=

# Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox
# Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
inbox-path=

# List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox
# Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path
incoming-folders=

# List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is
# the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[]
# Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[]
folder-collections=

# List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host
# than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[]
# Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[]
news-collections=

# List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the
# second indicates the folder read messages in the first should
# be moved to.
incoming-archive-folders=

# List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for
# pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble
pruned-folders=

# Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first
# folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
# Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection.
default-fcc=

# Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first
# folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
# Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection.
default-saved-msg-folder=

# Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses
# first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4).
# Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn.
postponed-folder=

# If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting.
read-message-folder=

# If set, specifies where form letters should be stored.
form-letter-folder=

# Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature
signature-file=

# List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s).
# Default: none
# Syntax: optnl-label path-name
global-address-book=

# List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s).
# Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC)
# Syntax: optnl-label path-name
address-book=

# List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set.
# e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom
# Default condition for all of the features is no-.
feature-list=

# Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v)
initial-keystroke-list=

# Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages
default-composer-hdrs=

# Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing
customized-hdrs=

# When viewing messages, include this list of headers
viewer-hdrs=

# Determines default folder name for Saves...
# Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used.
# Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC).
saved-msg-name-rule=

# Determines default name for Fcc...
# Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used.
# Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.)
fcc-name-rule=

# Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices:
# subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival".
sort-key=

# Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort,
# fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname
# Default: "fullname-with-lists-last".
addrbook-sort-rule=

# Sets presentation order of folder list entries. Choices: ,
#
# Default: "alpha-with-directories-last".
folder-sort-rule=

# Sets the default folder and collectionoffered at the Goto Command's prompt.
goto-default-rule=

# Sets message which cursor begins on. Choices: first-unseen, first-recent,
# first, last. Default: "first-unseen".
incoming-startup-rule=

# Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII.
# Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9).
character-set=

# Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer,
# or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature.
editor=

# Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer.
speller=

# Specifies the column of the screen where the composer should wrap.
composer-wrap-column=

# Specifies the string to insert when replying to a message.
reply-indent-string=

# Specifies the introduction to insert when replying to a message.
reply-leadin=

# Specifies the string to use when sending a message with no to or cc.
empty-header-message=

# Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments).
image-viewer=

# If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only)
use-only-domain-name=

# Your default printer selection
printer=

# List of special print commands
personal-print-command=

# Which category default print command is in
personal-print-category=

# Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning.
last-time-prune-questioned=99.8

# Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message.
last-version-used=4.10

# This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments,
# to be used in posting mail messages. Example:
# /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi
# or,
# /usr/local/bin/sendit.sh
# The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory.
# NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input,
# AND operate in the style of sendmail's "-t" option.
sendmail-path=

# This names the root of the tree to which the user is restricted when reading
# and writing folders and files. For example, on Unix ~/work confines the
# user to the subtree beginning with their work subdirectory.
# (Note: this alone is not sufficient for preventing access. You will also
# need to restrict shell access and so on, see Pine Technical Notes.)
# Default: not set (so no restriction)
operating-dir=

# This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into
# after MIME decoding, prior to display.
display-filters=

# This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME
# encoding, prior to sending
sending-filters=

# A list of alternate addresses the user is known by
alt-addresses=

# This is a list of formats for address books. Each entry in the list is made
# up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in
# which order. See help text
addressbook-formats=

# This gives a format for displaying the index. It is made
# up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in
# which order. See help text
index-format=

# The number of lines of overlap when scrolling through message text
viewer-overlap=

# Number of lines from top and bottom of screen where single
# line scrolling occurs.
scroll-margin=

# The number of seconds to sleep after writing a status message
status-message-delay=

# The approximate number of seconds between checks for new mail
mail-check-interval=

# Full path and name of NEWSRC file
newsrc-path=

# Path and filename of news configation's active file.
# The default is typically "/usr/lib/news/active".
news-active-file-path=

# Directory containing system's news data.
# The default is typically "/usr/spool/news"
news-spool-directory=

# Path and filename of the program used to upload text from your terminal
# emulator's into Pine's composer.
upload-command=

# Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by
# the upload-command variable.
# Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the upload.
upload-command-prefix=

# Path and filename of the program used to download text via your terminal
# emulator from Pine's export and save commands.
download-command=

# Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by
# the download-command variable.
# Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the downlaod.
download-command-prefix=

# Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file.
# NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2.
mailcap-search-path=

# Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file.
# NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2.
mimetype-search-path=

# If no user input for this many hours, Pine will exit if in an idle loop
# waiting for a new command. If set to zero (the default), then there will
# be no timeout.
user-input-timeout=

# Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a network
# connection. The default is 30, the minimum is 5, and the maximum is
# system defined (typically 75).
tcp-open-timeout=

# Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote
# shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited.
# Zero disables rsh altogether.
rsh-open-timeout=

# Sets the name of the command used to open a UNIX remote shell connection.
# The default is tyically /usr/ucb/rsh.
rsh-path=

# Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX remote
# shell connection. The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd"
# NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command
# where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the
# host to connnect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the
# fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap")
rsh-command=

# Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering
# its new version message on startup.
new-version-threshold=

# List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references).
url-viewers=

# List of mail drivers to disable. See technical notes.
disable-these-drivers=

# Set by Pine; contains data for caching remote address books.
remote-abook-metafile=

# How many extra copies of remote address book should be kept. Default: 3
remote-abook-history=

# Patterns and their actions are stored here.
patterns=

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Hi,i mistakenly wrote all my email addresses into the global address
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Will anyone let me know or explain how to view an attachment in PINE?
I am a novice. Whenever I press 'view attachment' it says try Save.
Please explain. Ashwanth Fernando,India

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PINE only knows how to display text attachements, it cannot handel graphics,
Executable and other binary type files. Save the file to your home directory (I
am assuming UNIX here). It will ask you for a file name, just use the default.
You will then need to ftp the file from your UNIX account over to your local PC.

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ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote:
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> Will anyone let me know or explain how to view an attachment in PINE?
> I am a novice. Whenever I press 'view attachment' it says try Save.
> Please explain. Ashwanth Fernando,India
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* Andy Malato <[email protected]> writes:
> ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote:
>> Will anyone let me know or explain how to view an attachment in PINE? I
>> am a novice. Whenever I press 'view attachment' it says try Save.
> PINE only knows how to display text attachements, it cannot handel
> graphics, Executable and other binary type files.

So what? All you need is the right entry in your mailcap, like:
image/*; ee %s
to launch ElectricEyes to view any kind of image file. What is needed,
though, is an application that can handle a particular attachment. If
someone, e.g., sends you an MS-Word document, you need something like
mswordview or catdoc to view it.

> Save the file to your home directory (I am assuming UNIX here). It will
> ask you for a file name, just use the default. You will then need to ftp
> the file from your UNIX account over to your local PC.

He never said he was using Dildows, was he?
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This should be simple, but it doesn't seem to be working. I want to have
my UNIX based addressbook be shared by my (home) PinePC client. I have an
IMAP configuration and have tried the following for both the personal and
global/shared addressbook variables:

{IMAP host}.addressbook
{IMAP host}~/.addressbook

I get error messages in the form of access denied, cannot read, etc (the
permission for my .addressbook is 666).

What am i doing wrong??

Thanks for any help,
Wil
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On 28 Aug 1999, Wil Irwin <[email protected]> wrote:
> This should be simple, but it doesn't seem to be working. I want to have
> my UNIX based addressbook be shared by my (home) PinePC client. I have an
> IMAP configuration and have tried the following for both the personal and
> global/shared addressbook variables:
>
> {IMAP host}.addressbook
> {IMAP host}~/.addressbook
>
> I get error messages in the form of access denied, cannot read, etc (the
> permission for my .addressbook is 666).

I have instructions for how to set this up in my "Setting Up PC-Pine
for Power Users," which is at:

http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/

The relevant sections are:
* Creating an IMAP-Accessible Address Book
* Copying Addresses in a Local Address Book to an IMAP-Accessible
Address Book

Let me know if you have any suggestions for how to improve my page.

Good luck,
nancy

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I must not have been paying attention... When did Pine become able to read
mailboxes >1MB in size?

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Mike Miller wrote:

> I received a message yesterday that was 66 MB and contained 565
> attachments. A real whopper! My system can handle this, but it seems
> that pine does not allow me to extract ('save' in pine lingo) all
> attachments to files without doing every attachment one at a time. A
> "Save All Attachments" command would be a nice feature.