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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions
to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine --
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The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
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accessed:

- In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
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- Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
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- The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
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Hello,

I have been using Pine on various UNIX systems for many years, and I have
only recently heard of being able to use it on my IBM. I have DOS 6.x,
and windows 3.11. I would prefer a dos version, but would like to get
both, to try them both out.

Could someone tell me which version of PC Pine I should get? I don't know
if it matters, but I have a 386DX40, mono VGA screen.

Thanks,

Joseph

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Hi to all!
I use PGP, but I can configure Pine to encoding messages
with it. In Config, in sending filters i put ~pgp/pgp -aes _TMPFILE -o
_RESULTFILE_
this show me the message with PGP encoding, but Pine send
the older message... Can anyone helpme?
ThnakS
********************************* WEBS:
* Fernando Herrera de las Heras * http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1639
* ETSIT U.Politecnica. Madrid * http://www.geocities.com/vienna/2835
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SUBJECT :MGET Herrera
To get my PGP Public key

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In th eaddress book, is it possible to create folders so that I can
store different addresses in different folders according to their
nature?

Thank you !!

Sailing

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On 29 May 1997, Herrera de las Heras wrote:

Hi, Herrera!

> I use PGP, but I can configure Pine to encoding messages
>with it. In Config, in sending filters i put ~pgp/pgp -aes _TMPFILE -o
>_RESULTFILE_ this show me the message with PGP encoding, but Pine send
>the older message... Can anyone helpme?

Well, this sending filter just won't do (what's ~pgp supposed to do, anyway?
Or is it a typo?). Get e.g. pgp-pine by Roland Rosenfeld or papp by Aldo
Valente off the net.

> ThnakS

No PoRBlME!

> To get my PGP Public key
Yeah, what? Hehehe >;->

Cheers,
Robin

- --
Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key"
GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+
PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+**

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: noconv

iQEVAwUBM5FywGe8+XvDOeNZAQFAXQf/Vcae4cU6uDUuHME0RWNpDp8FHeqqug/Y
K8Wis2zDgD2ThevAAowSPqvzPnvWK/2Mo+Lrj0bYfz/ZmZbiwCWg9kXOqMfdYP+l
wXEu836D5MsQVWHif6FdJjdun5eW51RBxOMyfnDDYgIp0yGhhkRfpjQyhSkLWild
1f2PircBQlBMVPRDTpi6+/hRSXNTMmfi6qoivG5/R0ibxU1vyZjoWtygNi72cVRF
q9xB/OvjoS+4/ldZ5W9253keDbehTUPLTFewimqR60uPfLPZkCt1DiweYgJ4+2IC
tqAglgsFa8riOKOeUy3Q1pKtfwkgNuvX9g5zFghDMkDI5RHKl46c7Q==
=MXRW
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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I already asked once about this problem, but could not get a workable
solution. I have now some more elements so perhaps somebody can help me.

- I read my mail with pine 3.95

- I receive mail from a colleague who is sending mail via ELM. He is not
aware of doing anything special. He just sends "normal" mail consisting
of plain text (no attachments)

- however my pine sees his mails as consisting of a "text" MIME attachment.
Of course pine shows me the text correctly without need to invoke any
special viewer. So I can READ his mails.

- however I wish to be able to reply to him as I usually do to everybody
else, including his TEXT. prefixed by > signs, so that I can comment
on his statements, editing etc.

unfortunately when I do reply either I do not get his message included
at all (under my default configuration), or get his message included
as an attachment (if I tic the "include-attachment-in-reply" feature)

I have found a workaround, which is however not elegant. That is :

- I save the mail from inbox into another folder

- I edit the folder and remove a set of header lines

_ I close the editor (if I don't do that pine will see the folder locked
and hangs)

- I reopen the folder in pine, and I am now able to treat his mails as
normal mails without attachments.

The header lines I eliminate are the following (they occur after the "Date"
keyword and before of the "Status: RO" line)

X-Hpvue$Revision: 1.8 $
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Message/rfc822
X-Vue-Mime-Level: 4
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Content-Type: text

I suppose the problem is due to the presence of a couple of Content-Type
lines. Can I just suppress one of those ? and which ?

Or EVEN BETTER what shall I tell my colleague to inhibit the creation of the
faulty lines (assumed is a fault with ELM and not with Pine) ?

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[Posted and mailed]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Chapulin Colorado) writes:
> Can anyone give me any pointers to information or resources on
> using PINE with PGP. I am used to PINE, and like it very much,
> but I just installed PGP and want PINE to handle all that
> functionality for me. Anyway, any pointers will help.

This is a FAQ. There are several well known ways of incorporating Pine
and PGP. Check this URL for the methods that I have been using:

http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html

It is quite simple, provided you are not using a stripped down Unix
(like some Linux flavors) system that lacks some tty functionalities.

Cheers!

Jie
-- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. --
== POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) ==
== www.uc.edu/~yuanj = [email protected] = using Knews (Irix5.3) ==
== PGP key: finger -l [email protected] ==

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On 30 May 1997, Jie Yuan wrote:

> [email protected] (Chapulin Colorado) writes:
>> Can anyone give me any pointers to information or resources on
>> using PINE with PGP. I am used to PINE, and like it very much,
>> but I just installed PGP and want PINE to handle all that
>> functionality for me. Anyway, any pointers will help.
>Check this URL for the methods that I have been using:
> http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html
>It is quite simple, provided you are not using a stripped down Unix
>(like some Linux flavors) system that lacks some tty functionalities.

>:-< There is only one "Unix". Are all other u*ices therefore stripped?

If you're using "a stripped down Unix", try:
(http://www.rhein.de/~roland/)
(http://www.rhein.de/~aldo/pine.html)

They're not quite as "simple", but they work like a charm.

Later,
Robin

- --
Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key"
GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+
PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+**

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3i
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iQEVAwUBM5HVwme8+XvDOeNZAQG7PwgAnVQTOL9OkPq5r+PzCFuWldEX3a8mncdw
+DALU/wIup34kpuebGqy/Eq2WrHGkwJtmEVm1FQB/CfHoaK5ZMe/RRvtuxTCsUTf
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how can i put an extra character or a word in my email addres
so that when i send something it would look like this:

mata*@phakt.usc.edu

so that people would have to remove that start to reply.

it is currently

[email protected]

thank you, anybody who can answer this!

Mata

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Leroy,

I have passed this message on to the International Pine Discussion Forum,
and also to Innosoft Tech Support. I will keep you posted.

Larry

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, David Cantrell wrote:

> Larry,
>
> Could you look into this problem? The TMS number is 14213.
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 1997 9:59 AM
> To: helpdesk
> Cc: IC_WILKELR
> Subject:
>
> Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno 18 in mail_fetchstructure." Exiting pine.
>
> While in Pine on Toshiba laptop, I have received the above message twice
> - once last Friday night and this morning.
>
> Can Technical Support look into this problem?
>
> Thank you.
>
> LeRoy Wilke
> ext 1155
>
>
>

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The error you are getting means that message #18 is not there when Pine
thinks it should have been. This is most often caused by people using
their mail from two different places: they can be both from Pine, or one
from VMS MAIL or PMDF MAIL. In any case, if you deleted some messages
from one place, but pine had it when it opened the folder, then it will
have this problem.

Or, it could be a bug. What version of PMDF are you running? That is,
what is the output of

$ pmdf version

? It may be that you need a new PINE.EXE image from our anonymous FTP
area, ftp.innosoft.com

--Barry

Barry Chametzky
Innosoft International, Inc. Telephone: (818) 919-3600
1050 Lakes Drive FAX: (818) 919-3614
West Covina, California 91790 Web: http://www.innosoft.com

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Larry Wahlers wrote:

> Leroy,
>
> I have passed this message on to the International Pine Discussion Forum,
> and also to Innosoft Tech Support. I will keep you posted.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> > Larry,
> >
> > Could you look into this problem? The TMS number is 14213.
> > Thanks
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 1997 9:59 AM
> > To: helpdesk
> > Cc: IC_WILKELR
> > Subject:
> >
> > Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno 18 in mail_fetchstructure." Exiting pine.
> >
> > While in Pine on Toshiba laptop, I have received the above message twice
> > - once last Friday night and this morning.
> >
> > Can Technical Support look into this problem?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > LeRoy Wilke
> > ext 1155
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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"Unexpected locking failure. No message of desired type"

This cryptic message has been appearing on PINE whenever I send or save a
message. The message appears & the screen locks temporarily, but then it
unfreezes after a few seconds and performs whatever the operation I was
trying to get it to perform. Any suggetstions as to what may be causing
this?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:37:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Erich Billung-meyer <[email protected]>
To: UW Email Robot <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Getting the most out of Pine (last changed Jun 07 1996)

dear robot!

hi! Help! I am a real techie-dweeb and cannot figure the changes out
very well. I accidently found out about typing in "pine" to get back into
my mail. But I have found that my address list is gone... this poses a
big problem because, I now have no record of my friends and family's
e-mail addresses. Are they hidden somewhere else that I could possibly
locate?

Please help! Cheers, Evelyn ([email protected])

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How do i change my address on pine?
I recently logged into an on-line service and got me a new address. My
former address is still valid but i don't want pine to state it on the
e-mails i send. i wish that he would let me choose what address i have and
not force it automaticly. I use pine 3.95 from a Unix platform.

my new address is [email protected]
my former address is [email protected]

so you can guess why i want to change it.

I tried to change my domain name and it changed my address to
[email protected]
which very inventive of it, but it's wrong. what can i do? How can i use
alt-address instead of my real one?
thanks in advance.

[email protected]

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Quoting Sylvain Robitaille:
> Now you'll know you can look at the procmail man page, (man procmail) for
> information on how to use procmail to do what you're trying to do. Admittedly
> procmail isn't exactly aimed at novice script authors, but it can do what
> you're looking for and then some.

Actually it is rather easy to get going with procmail. The NOTES
-section at the end of 'man procmail' contains all information needed
for setup, and includes some simple examples on redirecting mail etc.
More examples are found in 'man procmailex'.

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
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>
>3.96 has been out for a long time now. Does anyone know how close we
>are to the next release??

Actually, I think that 3.96 has only been out a few months now. Is there
something wrong with it? My Linux computer still has 3.95, which I've
not bothered to upgrade yet due to the fact that I've personally had no
problem with it, and my ISP only recently upgraded their Sun version to
3.96

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Hi!
I have a ASCII file that contains several thousand e-mail addresses (each
address per line). I want to make this file as a distribution list of pine.
It seems impossible to do this whithin pine. Is there anyone who has some
suggestion ? Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Feng Wang

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We are currently using Pine, version 3.91 on a UNIX platform. We cannot
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I would be grateful for suggestions on how to get bounce to work. Thanks!

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On Mon, 2 Jun 1997 [email protected] wrote:

>
> Hi!
> I have a ASCII file that contains several thousand e-mail addresses (each
> address per line). I want to make this file as a distribution list of pine.
> It seems impossible to do this whithin pine. Is there anyone who has some
> suggestion ? Your help will be greatly appreciated.

VI-editor, EMACS ? Format the "file" to mimic that of the addressbook and
then import the file into your addressbook.

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On Mon, 2 Jun 1997 [email protected] wrote:

Yo!

>I have a ASCII file that contains several thousand e-mail addresses (each
>address per line). I want to make this file as a distribution list of
>pine. It seems impossible to do this whithin pine.

Yes, that's right.

>Is there anyone who has some suggestion?

Several people, my humble self among them. You could have checked the pine
archive, but among the solutions offered were:

perl
sed
awk
XEmacs
10 iyfegh typists

It's not that hard to do. How much are paying for a good script? Hehehe >;->

>Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Hmmm, yes, I sincerely hope that others will feel the same. "several
thousand" sounds menacing --- you are not by any chance embarking on a major
spamming campaing, are you?

Cheers,
Robin

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I saw in my Pine help section, I could report a bug to you guys. I'm not
sure a bug is what I'm getting but I'll describe what's happening and see
if you have an idea. I access the internet through my former college, VCU
in Richmond, Va. I dial in from home using a Mac II via Kermit. I have
had a subscription to a bulletin board called [email protected].
However, in the past three weeks, I haven't been getting any messages! I
called the person who is the creator, and he said I am still subscribed.
Still I don't receive anything. I have been getting individual e-mail
letters from people, just nothing from this bulletin board.
Any ideas? Thanks, Emily
[email protected]

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Mail the text file to yourself by using CTRL-R to read it into the message
body. When you have the message in Pine, read it, then switch to (T)ake
addresses mode. Once in Take, switch to (L)ist mode, select (A)ll and
(T)ake the addresses, giving Pine a nickname to use for the list. I don't
know if there's a limit on the number of names Pine can handle in a list.

Several thousand seems like an awful lot; I hope you're using this for
legitimate communcation and not for sending unwanted e-mail.

On 2 Jun 1997 12:12:56 -0700, Feng Wang <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a ASCII file that contains several thousand e-mail addresses (each
>address per line). I want to make this file as a distribution list of pine.
>It seems impossible to do this whithin pine. Is there anyone who has some
>suggestion ? Your help will be greatly appreciated.

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Hi:

I'm experiencing very poor performance with pine (tried both 3.93 and
3.95) when reading newsgroups with about 100 articles or more. It takes
several minutes to scroll through each screenful of about 25 article
headers (on a SPARCserver 1000 and an IBM RS/6000 J40)

The last time I looked at the source (a while ago), it was not clear
where the nntp commands were (if at all). Can someone point me to
technical documentation on how pine reads newsgroups using a news server
(i.e. not using local collections)?

I have not had any problems with Netscape Navigator/Communicator or tin.
I strongly suspect "misbehaviour" on pine's interaction with our NNTP
server (running INND 1.5.1).

Thanks,
Vinod Kutty.

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On 2 Jun 1997, Zhao Jiankang wrote:

> Hi. Dear friends. Can PINE auto-reply? Thank you very much.

No. You have to use some other software which hooks into the mail
delivery process, which Pine does not do. Specifics would depend on
more information than you provided (and would no longer be a Pine
question).

Paul <[email protected]>
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I have Pine for windows 3.1 and need information on how to set it up
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There's a mailing list for VMS-Pine users. (I'm not one; I just happened
to notice it.) To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to

[email protected]

with the message body containing the word "subscribe" only.

(Or send e-mail to [email protected] with "subscribe VMS-Pine" in the
message body.) The list owner is [email protected]

On 2 Jun 1997 04:10:59 GMT, [email protected] (L. J. DICKEY) wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone has ever successfully configured PINE
>to run correctly under VMS? I know that it's more at home on
>a UNIX platform, but since I only have access to a VAX machine,
>my only alternative is to try and modify it to work as best as
>possible under VMS. The greatest obstacle is the coexistence
>of the MX program. Well, more on the lines of "the dominance"
>of MX mail and the quirky way it handles folders and files.
>
>What I would like to do is, either, disable MX mail or make
>PINE my primary (dominant) mail program. Something tells me
>that this might no be possible, but I thought there may be
>some sort of way around it. If not, then at least a way of
>configuring PINE to have better control over my e-mail.
>
>If anyone knows the ins-and-out or know where I can gain
>information on setting up PINE under VAX/VMS, please e-mail me.

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Quick work-around: Have the employee forward the mail to himself (or
herself). Before sending the message, he should go to the offending line
and hit CTRL-J to reformat the paragraph.

Disadvantage: The printed message will be from the employee to himself,
though the message text (if the forwarded headers are left intact) will
contain the original sender info.

Long work-around: Save the offending message to a separate folder called,
for example, print. Suspend or exit Pine and use pico to edit the file
mail/print, reformatting the long line with CTRL-J. Go back into Pine, go
to the print folder and print the message. This time you'll get the "real"
message with the "real" headers.

On Wed, 28 May 1997 16:38:09 -0400, Glenn Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have encountered a problem when using Pine 3.95 on SCO UNIX
>(Openserver 5). One of our employees received an e-mail where the
>message was one long string. When it is viewed using Pico, it displays
>correctly - the single line is wrapped into multiple lines onscreen. But
>when this message is printed, the line is not wrapped - it simply prints
>off the right edge of the page.

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hi ,

sometimes before saving the mail in appropriate folder, some
info in the mail need to be deleted etc. Is it possible to
edit the mail . What i am doing now is i forward it to myself
after removing the not-so-required message body.

i am using pine 3.95, Sun OS platform.

tia,
vani.

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Subject: HELP!
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I wrote to you guys to see if you can give me peoples e-mail addresses
that are interested in having people write to them. But I'm unsure if any
of my messages are getting through?????HELP!

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From: [email protected] (Sylvain Robitaille)
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On Fri, 30 May 1997 12:35:19 GMT, Marcia Nutley <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I would like to set up a .forward file. I have tried using PICO but I
>must have the format wrong. All I put in the file was the address of the
>user to whom I want the mail forwarded. Is there also a config setting I
>need to change?

Did this not work? What happened? Did the message get *anywhere*?

Mail forwarding is not really a function of Pine. It's a function of your Mail
Transport Agent. Pine's just a mail reading progam. You need to verify the
configuration of your MTA. For example, on my LInux box, I use sendmail as the
MTA, and in the configuration file, (/etc/sendmail.cf), there is this line:

# Forward file search path
O ForwardPath=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward

>Thanks for the help.
>
>P.S. I'm using PINE 3.91 on a machine running Linux.

You might want to consider upgrading to a newer version. A few features have
been added that some users here find useful.

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Concordia University Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Dear Sir/Madam,
Please guide me as to how to set a password protection to the
pine. I was unable to understand and locate the above topic in the help
text of the pine. I would we awaiting your reply. Please do get back at
the earliest.

Thnaking you,
yours faithfully,

Avinash.

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hi ,

go to main menu , press K , pine prompts to enter the password,
enter the password , then it confirms to lock , press a Y(es).
The screen remains locked with the password until you unlock it
with the same password.

vani

On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Avinash Goyal wrote:

> Dear Sir/Madam,
> Please guide me as to how to set a password protection to the
> pine. I was unable to understand and locate the above topic in the help
> text of the pine. I would we awaiting your reply. Please do get back at
> the earliest.
>
> Thnaking you,
> yours faithfully,
>
> Avinash.
>
>
>
>
>

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Vani P.S wrote:

Hi ,
Thanx for the message but I want to lock my mailbox everytime I
try to login. I mean whenever I login to my account and want to read my
messages, it should prompt me for a password to enter. If the password is
correct it allows me to access teh pine or else it should go back to
prompt or to the menu.
I hope this is possible with the pine now.

Thanking you

Avinash.

> > hi , >
> go to main menu , press K , pine prompts to enter the password,
> enter the password , then it confirms to lock , press a Y(es).
> The screen remains locked with the password until you unlock it
> with the same password.
>
> vani
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Avinash Goyal wrote:
>
> > Dear Sir/Madam,
> > Please guide me as to how to set a password protection to the
> > pine. I was unable to understand and locate the above topic in the help
> > text of the pine. I would we awaiting your reply. Please do get back at
> > the earliest.
> >
> > Thnaking you,
> > yours faithfully,
> >
> > Avinash.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Hmmm.... This _may_ not be a problem with Pine per se...

When compiling the INN 1.5.1 software there is a configuration option in
its config/config.data file called "LIKE_PULLERS". As distributed this is
set to "DONT". If INN is compiled with this setting it lets you read 100
articles within a given NNTP session. It then continues to let you read,
but introduces a one second delay between articles. This is so that
Systems Administrators can reduce the impact of reading sessions from
software packages which try to "suck" a newsfeed from their server.

Note that the delay is introduced after reading 100 articles within an
NNTP *session* (ie, not within any one newsgroup). So after a session has
been used to read 100 articles things slow down dramatically.

You would not notice this effect with Navigator if, for example, it
started off a separate NNTP session (hence with its own fresh 100 article
limit) more often than Pine does. (For example Navigator might be idiotic
enough to start a new session for each article it reads, or for
each newsgroup you open, rather than re-using your existing NNTP
connection ... I really don't know.)

You may like to ask your News Administrator if they compiled INN with the
LIKE_PULLERS option set to DONT. If they did then you might be able to
persuade them to change this to DO and recompile it, or else to edit the
source code and increase the 100 article limit 10, say, 1000.

Cheers,

--
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On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Vinod Kutty wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I'm experiencing very poor performance with pine (tried both 3.93 and
> 3.95) when reading newsgroups with about 100 articles or more. It takes
> several minutes to scroll through each screenful of about 25 article
> headers (on a SPARCserver 1000 and an IBM RS/6000 J40)
>
> The last time I looked at the source (a while ago), it was not clear
> where the nntp commands were (if at all). Can someone point me to
> technical documentation on how pine reads newsgroups using a news server
> (i.e. not using local collections)?
>
> I have not had any problems with Netscape Navigator/Communicator or tin.
> I strongly suspect "misbehaviour" on pine's interaction with our NNTP
> server (running INND 1.5.1).
>
> Thanks,
> Vinod Kutty.
>

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On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, kaye wrote:

> We are currently using Pine, version 3.91 on a UNIX platform. We cannot
> get the bounce command to work. It remails the message back to the
> "bouncer" and not to the intended receiver.
>
> I would be grateful for suggestions on how to get bounce to work. Thanks!

Your problem is almost certainly caused by the defective sendmail front-
end emulation of the MMDF mail router package used by your SCO system
(it's vital to know what flavor of UNIX you're using with problems like
these. the message ID suggests you're running SCO UNIX).

You may not have noticed yet, but another problem is that the addresses
specified in blind-carbon-copy field (bcc:) will become quite visible to
each recipient (oops!).

SCO's SMTP gateway does a much better job in handling both options.
Simply change the "smtp-server" option in the setup configuration screen
into "localhost" (it ought to be set to "<No Value Set>" now). This does
require that your system has TCP/IP configured.

Good luck!

Kind regards,

- Richard Gering.

P.S. Why not upgrade to Pine 3.96 in the process?

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On 2 Jun 1997, GORDON L L wrote:

> I wrote to you guys to see if you can give me peoples e-mail addresses
> that are interested in having people write to them. But I'm unsure if any
> of my messages are getting through?????HELP!

Possibly no one answered because your inquiry is not really
relevant to comp.mail.pine. This is about technical aspects of
installing and using the Pine program, not a dating service.

Paul <[email protected]>
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On 2 Jun 1997 04:10:59 GMT, [email protected] (L. J. DICKEY) wrote:
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has ever successfully configured PINE
>>to run correctly under VMS? I know that it's more at home on
>>a UNIX platform, but since I only have access to a VAX machine,
>>my only alternative is to try and modify it to work as best as
>>possible under VMS. The greatest obstacle is the coexistence
>>of the MX program. Well, more on the lines of "the dominance"
>>of MX mail and the quirky way it handles folders and files.
>>
>>What I would like to do is, either, disable MX mail or make
>>PINE my primary (dominant) mail program. Something tells me
>>that this might no be possible, but I thought there may be
>>some sort of way around it. If not, then at least a way of
>>configuring PINE to have better control over my e-mail.
>>
>>If anyone knows the ins-and-out or know where I can gain
>>information on setting up PINE under VAX/VMS, please e-mail me.

I'm afraid I must claim responsibility for porting PINE to VMS (well, to be
fair, Yehavi Bourvine did the original dirty work and I finished it off).

At present the port is for 3.91. See:
http://alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk/fileserv/pine-vms/

I think there's also a link somewhere in the washington home page for pine:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/
under 'unsupported ports'

Regards,

Andy Harper
Kings College London

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Has anyone looked into using pine as a default unix shell? How secure is
it straight out of the box? What needs to be done to sew it up so that a
user has access to pine and only pine?

CG

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote:

> This is about technical aspects of
> installing and using the Pine program, not a dating service.

Oh.
This explains why I don't get any dates.

ROTFL

Lea

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Actually, I am the co-administrator of our news server, and my colleague
already tried this, hence my post to the group.

I think I should double check the installation to make sure everything is
where it should be.

Thanks,
Vinod Kutty.
University of Illinois at Chicago.

On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote:

> Hmmm.... This _may_ not be a problem with Pine per se...
>
> When compiling the INN 1.5.1 software there is a configuration option in
> its config/config.data file called "LIKE_PULLERS". As distributed this is
> set to "DONT". If INN is compiled with this setting it lets you read 100
> articles within a given NNTP session. It then continues to let you read,
> but introduces a one second delay between articles. This is so that
> Systems Administrators can reduce the impact of reading sessions from
> software packages which try to "suck" a newsfeed from their server.
>
> Note that the delay is introduced after reading 100 articles within an
> NNTP *session* (ie, not within any one newsgroup). So after a session has
> been used to read 100 articles things slow down dramatically.
>
> You would not notice this effect with Navigator if, for example, it
> started off a separate NNTP session (hence with its own fresh 100 article
> limit) more often than Pine does. (For example Navigator might be idiotic
> enough to start a new session for each article it reads, or for
> each newsgroup you open, rather than re-using your existing NNTP
> connection ... I really don't know.)
>
> You may like to ask your News Administrator if they compiled INN with the
> LIKE_PULLERS option set to DONT. If they did then you might be able to
> persuade them to change this to DO and recompile it, or else to edit the
> source code and increase the 100 article limit 10, say, 1000.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Mike Brudenell <[email protected]>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I have tried to install Pine on AIX 4.1.5 but with no luck. I am able to
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H--E--L--P

Thanks in advance,

Ken Schreiber
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>On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Vani P.S wrote:

> Thanx for the message but I want to lock my mailbox everytime I
>try to login. I mean whenever I login to my account and want to read my
>messages, it should prompt me for a password to enter. If the password is
>correct it allows me to access teh pine or else it should go back to
>prompt or to the menu.

Hm? You should have a login prompt for your system, that's enough for the
rest of the u*ix world afaik ;-) Are you trying to prevent others from
reading your mail? Then you should look up a thread about umasking pine
temporary files in the archives (skip the last 90% of the thread, because it
turned into a full-blown flamewar).

There are, of course means to achieve what you want, but I'm not sure your
administrator would like those. CFS would be one that pops to my deseased
mind (Crypto File System). Maybe you could tell us what exactly you need
this kind of protection for. Besides, what do you want to "lock" the file
for? Or are you not talking of "locking" in the u*ix sense?

> I hope this is possible with the pine now.

Has it ever been?

Cheers,
Robin

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote:

>> This is about technical aspects of installing and using the Pine
>> program, not a dating service.

>Oh. This explains why I don't get any dates.

Looking for hot sex? I want you, Lea, right here on my keyboard! Try the
below phone number!!! (c) aol

Yours hornily,
Robin

P.S. Maybe I shouldn't have /dev/nulled all those messages... I need
inspiration for the rest of this thread! [email protected], are you with me?

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Robin S Socha wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
> >On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote:
>
> >> This is about technical aspects of installing and using the Pine
> >> program, not a dating service.
>
> >Oh. This explains why I don't get any dates.
>
> Looking for hot sex? I want you, Lea, right here on my keyboard! Try the
> below phone number!!! (c) aol
> Yours hornily,
> Robin

Boy, I'll bet Paul's sorry he said anything :-)))

Robin, hon, I don't think you get out enough :-) Sex on a
keyboard, with all them little pokey things 'n' stuff? Bleh.

Ob-Pine: HEY! We got upgraded to 3.96 today! WooHoo!

Lea

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
>> >On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote:

>> >> This is about technical aspects of installing and using the Pine
>> >> program, not a dating service.
>> >Oh. This explains why I don't get any dates.

Guess not, but maybe this does:

>Ob-Pine: HEY! We got upgraded to 3.96 today! WooHoo!

*argl* You made me do *it*. I got myself the source, exploded the tarball,
said ./build lnx and this is what I got:

Making Pico and Pilot
cc -g -Dlnx -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -o
pico
/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory
make: *** [pico] Error 1

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Apr 27 20:17
/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld -> ../../bin/ld*

I'm kinda tired and stuff... Anyone got a q&d solution for S.u.S.E. linux,
please?

TIA,
Robin

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Robin S Socha wrote:

> *argl* You made me do *it*. I got myself the source, exploded the tarball,
> said ./build lnx and this is what I got:
<snippysnippysnippy>

See? This is what you get for dicking around with your keyboard.
Harumph.

Lea

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Robin S Socha wrote:

>> *argl* You made me do *it*. I got myself the source, exploded the
>> tarball, said ./build lnx and this is what I got:
><snippysnippysnippy>
>See? This is what you get for dicking around with your keyboard.
^^^^
Hmmm, Freudian slip? A secret message to everyone's subconscience? A pun?
Anyway, sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not *that* close to my keyboard.

>Harumph.

Err... Is that a quote or something?

Robin over and out...

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I have large mailing lists that get archived into folders via procmail,
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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Robin S Socha wrote:

> >See? This is what you get for dicking around with your keyboard.
> ^^^^
> Hmmm, Freudian slip? A secret message to everyone's subconscience? A pun?
> Anyway, sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not *that* close to my keyboard.

What, I look disappointed? Try looking at me crosseyed and see
if the view changes...
No, that wasn't a Freudian slip = it was a play on your
smart-alecky cybersex stuff from earlier. Never mind :-)

Lea

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Hello,

What I am trying to do is to install PC Pine so that I can download my
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I have a 386, with 4 megs, and a mono VGA card/monitor. I downloaded the
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Also, is there a way to put more documentation into the program, for the
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Thanks

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my name is jason my email account is in trouble. when open it by typing
at the sys prompt pine
it comes up and the first thing it says "Bad OR MISSING COMMA?"

[Bad initial keystroke "" (missing comma?)
that is it exactly
i cant recieve mail anymore on this accoutn
i can however send mail to my self and recieve it. if you can help please
send me mail to [email protected]
thanx
jmb

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Jason Bolin wrote:

>my name is jason my email account is in trouble. when open it by typing
>at the sys prompt pine it comes up and the first thing it says "Bad OR
>MISSING COMMA?"
> [Bad initial keystroke "" (missing comma?)

Just what it says. You've toyed around with the setup and now it's broken.
Say:

M(ain)
S(etup)
C(onfig)

and clear the field for "initial keystroke". If you can't do that, edit the
file .pinerc, e.g. by saying:

joe ~/.pinerc

and clear the respective line.

>that is it exactly i cant recieve mail anymore on this accoutn i can
>however send mail to my self and recieve it.

Oops?

Later,
Robin

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why when I type addres list in the main menu the answer is always :empty.
show me the way how to use that main menu ?

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Hi, I've looked in the archives but couldn't spot an answer to this problem.

I'm using PINE 3.96 to connect to an IMAP4 server and am having difficulty
with listing mailboxes. PINE is using the FIND command which is marked as
obsolete in RFC 1730, and our server doesn't support it. Is there a way to
persuade PINE to use the LIST command instead?

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could you please send me a list of all the available newsgroup servers
which i can access using netscape news?

thank you
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When I dial in to our unix mail server and start pine, it does something
which reverses the video colors (changes the black on white to white on
black). It doesn't get reset after I leave Pine.

Is there a simple way I can get Pine to leave the video mode to black text
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Dear Sir or Madam:

I hope you will be able to help me without taking to much time to do it.

Is there any way to know if a message has been read by the receiver?

Thanking you in advance I remain sincerely yours,

Ruth Lazkoz

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On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Ruth Lazkoz Saez wrote:

>I hope you will be able to help me without taking to much time to do it.

Everyone's more than welcome to ask question here, that's what the list is
for :-)

>Is there any way to know if a message has been read by the receiver?

No. It is not even possible to tell if the mail has been received. Compare
the situation to a regular postal system: You post a letter, but unless
you've taken certain steps, you cannot be sure that it has reached its
addressee.

And to answer the next question... :-) Yes, there are certain steps you can
take to make sure your mail has reached its addressee. However, those
involve certain software on behalf of both parties. Here on my system, I'm
running procmail. There are a few people that depend on their mails reaching
me, so I've set up an auto-acknowledging system for them. This system can be
turned on and off via email, either by myself or by them if they feel this
step unnecessary. But, as I said, the other party has to take similar steps,
too. From my experience, it's enough to be notified that a mail could *not*
be delivered (you normally get a message from your ISP after 5 hours and
then again after some days).

Hope that helps.

Robin

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Alas, no... not until Pine 4.00 --which we hope isn't *too* far off.

-teg

On 4 Jun 1997, Andrew Merritt wrote:

>
> Hi, I've looked in the archives but couldn't spot an answer to this problem.
>
> I'm using PINE 3.96 to connect to an IMAP4 server and am having difficulty
> with listing mailboxes. PINE is using the FIND command which is marked as
> obsolete in RFC 1730, and our server doesn't support it. Is there a way to
> persuade PINE to use the LIST command instead?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew
> --
> Andrew Merritt (C=GB;AD=400NET;PD=HP;OU1=HP-Pinewood;SN=Merritt;GN=Andy) 0
> ECO, HP, Pinewood, UK http://www.ice.hp.com/OpenMail *=/^__/
> Disclaimer: I don't speak for HP, and they don't speak for me. ..... o""""(0)
>

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> Hi,
>
> I seem to be having a problem specifying an alternate editor. On a
> different unix account I was able to change the config for an alternate
> editor (vi) with no problems. However with this account I don't seem to
> be able to do so (when I select alternate editor, the screen simply blinks
> and "abnormally terminates" the editor). I think that perhaps my other
> account (in which alt ed worked) may have been a later version of Pine
> (3.95??). Is the problem on version 3.94 something that I can't get
> around?
>
> Thanks,
>
> nina
> [email protected]
>
> ps I don't have any authority to ask our sys admin to update the Pine
> (and they did not know how to handle the editor problem, which is why I'm
> sending this e-mail!)
>
>

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WHERE can I purchase a bulk e mail software package reasonably priced.?please
reply thankyou

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On 3 Jun 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote:

+ Hmmm.... This _may_ not be a problem with Pine per se...
+
+ When compiling the INN 1.5.1 software there is a configuration option in
+ its config/config.data file called "LIKE_PULLERS". As distributed this is
+ set to "DONT". If INN is compiled with this setting it lets you read 100
+ articles within a given NNTP session. It then continues to let you read,
+ but introduces a one second delay between articles. This is so that
+ Systems Administrators can reduce the impact of reading sessions from
+ software packages which try to "suck" a newsfeed from their server.

Nice explanation.

+ Note that the delay is introduced after reading 100 articles within an
+ NNTP *session* (ie, not within any one newsgroup). So after a session has
+ been used to read 100 articles things slow down dramatically.

I am seeing it right now (with 3.96). All I am doing it loading up a
newsgroup with some 10,000 articles unread, and just pushing the space bar
to go the next page (my page length is abour 45 lines or so). First page
display is fast, and just after (probably) second page, things slow down a
lot. All I am trying it to lookup the header, and then probably read a few
of the articles.

I use TIN more frequently than pine to read news ((for multiple reasons).
And I have *never* seen any such delays. So I will rule our the server
immediately. Now that leaves the client. So I will try to look at the code.
(Or probably some developer would have noticed ?)

Regards,
-Roy-

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[email protected] writes:

> WHERE can I purchase a bulk e mail software package reasonably priced.?please
> reply thankyou

Who gets to kill him first? Granted, it would be much more fun if we
didn't have to take turns...

It is nice to notice, however, that the AOL stereotype shows no sign
of becoming obsolete any time in the near future.

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As an alternative to this approach, I have a way of incorporating
PGP with Pine. See my web page at this URL:

http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html.

Cheers!

Jie
-------------------------------------------------------
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Colin Comish) writes:
> On 30 May 1997 16:01:53 +0200, Roland Rosenfeld
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Chapulin Colorado <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone give me any pointers to information or resources on
>>> using PINE with PGP. I am used to PINE, and like it very much,
>>> but I just installed PGP and want PINE to handle all that
>>> functionality for me. Anyway, any pointers will help.
>>
>>Have a look at
>>
>> http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine/
>>
>>Tschoeeee
>>
>> Roland
>>
>>--
>> * Internet: [email protected] * Fido: 2:2450/42 *
>
> Thanks for that, and for producing these files. I grabbed them eagerly
> and have them installed in Pine 3.95.
>
> Despite my very best endevours I can't get the 'pgpdecode' side of
> things working. On reciept of pgp encoded mail, opening the mail
> returens the following error
>
> 'Can't exec /home/m000hn00/bin/pgpdecode
> reason No such file or directory
> pipe command returned an error'
>
> When I escape from there I get the message header and in place of the
> body text I get ' [ error: formatting error: pipe command returned
> error code].
>
> Pine has no difficulty reading the other two scripts (pgpencrypt and
> pgpsign) and all three scripts are located in ~/bin and group and
> ownership are identical and look right.
>
> If anyone cand suggest a soloution or point me in the right direction,
> I would be grateful.
> Colin Comish <[email protected]>

--
-- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. --
== POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) ==
== www.uc.edu/~yuanj = [email protected] = using Knews (Irix5.3) ==
== PGP key: finger -l [email protected] ==

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Hello,

How do I send binary files as an attachment using pine ?

Pl. email.

Thank you.

sunil

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On 4 Jun 1997, Matt Simmons wrote:

> [email protected] writes:
>
> > WHERE can I purchase a bulk e mail software package reasonably priced.?
> > please reply
> > thankyou
>
> Who gets to kill him first? Granted, it would be much more fun if we
> didn't have to take turns...
>
> It is nice to notice, however, that the AOL stereotype shows no sign
> of becoming obsolete any time in the near future.
>

We could draw straws! But I'm with you, I'd rather not have to wait in
line. Anyone else got a better suggestion?

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Hi - after spending a couple hours on trying to solve a problem which
I'm certain other people have, I'm still at a loss.

I'm trying to print messages from PC-Pine for windows to a local
printer with formfeeds between messages. When I do this, no formfeeds
are printed but rather some funny looking control characters. This
has happened with both an epson L1000 printer and a laserjet 2p
printer.

I have the following switches set in config:

[X] print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt
(seems only applicable to unix version)

[X] print-includes-from-line
[X] print-formfeed-between-messages

Alas, doesn't seem to work. Anyone have any advice? It seems that
whatever control code PC-Pine is using as a formfeed isn't recoginized
by the windows print driver. I might try going to the generic text
only printer driver in windows but if I do this I lose the true-type
fonts I believe....

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, Steve Zelazny

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Good morning America.

Here from Indonesian. How to delete the folder in the Inbox message.
I tried to type D, however the folder still exist there...
Show me the way to do this.

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On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Robin S Socha wrote:

> Making Pico and Pilot
> cc -g -Dlnx -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -o
> pico
> /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory
> make: *** [pico] Error 1
Simple, you need to either
1) convince pine to use curses
or 2) install libtermcap.

for (2) it'll be at your favorite sunsite or gnu archive called
termcap-1.3.tar.gz (or later) and you'll need to make sure you've
got an /etc/termcap file.

(Ultra Q&D is a link from libncurses* to libtermcap* in /usr/lib, but
it only sometimes works...)

--
Rob. (Robert de Bath <http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday>)

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
> >> On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Lea wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote:
>
> >> >> This is about technical aspects of installing and using the Pine
> >> >> program, not a dating service.
> >> >Oh. This explains why I don't get any dates.
>
> Guess not, but maybe this does:
>
> >Ob-Pine: HEY! We got upgraded to 3.96 today! WooHoo!
>
> *argl* You made me do *it*. I got myself the source, exploded the tarball,
> said ./build lnx and this is what I got:
>
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Apr 27 20:17
> /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld -> ../../bin/ld*
>
> I'm kinda tired and stuff... Anyone got a q&d solution for S.u.S.E. linux,
> please?
>
>
> TIA,
> Robin
>
> - --
> Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
> To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key"
> GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+
> PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+**
>
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Today I tried using the Pine "suspend" command (Control Z). It worked,
kinda ... I couldn't figure out hwo to "un-suspend" the process and get
back into Pine. I when I tried "exit" I got a message that there were no
suspended jobs; when I tried getting back into Pine I was told that it was
already running.

Could someone please let me know by direct mail (as I don't read the
newsgroup) how to correct whatever I did.

thanks.

bonnie kellogg

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Bonnie Lee Kellogg wrote:

> Today I tried using the Pine "suspend" command (Control Z). It worked,
> kinda ... I couldn't figure out hwo to "un-suspend" the process and get
> back into Pine. I when I tried "exit" I got a message that there were no
> suspended jobs; when I tried getting back into Pine I was told that it was
> already running.

Well whenever we suspend our (Silicon Graphics) copy of Pine it actually
*tells* you how to get back into it:

Pine suspended. Give the "fg" command to come back.
Warning: Your IMAP connection will be closed if Pine
is suspended for more than 30 minutes

Suspended (signal)

Didn't yours?

The "suspend" feature is not unique to Pine, but is commonly implemented
in many UNIX programs. The feature is usually called "job control", and
is documented in the on-line manual page for the shell.

> Could someone please let me know by direct mail (as I don't read the
> newsgroup) how to correct whatever I did.

Perhaps it might be worth starting to read it? Or at least have the
courtesy to check it for a few days looking for the answer to your query?
(After all it is a (two-way) discussion forum, not really an information
service. :-)

> thanks.
>
> bonnie kellogg

Cheers,

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When I am in the Folder Index, what does the "+" on the left hand side represent?

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Joan Forester <forester> wrote:

> When I am in the Folder Index, what does the "+" on the left hand side represent?

In the Folder Index screen type "?" and read the built-in help: in
particular the section beginning "STATUS:".

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Volker Metzler wrote:

> I am using PINE 3.96 on a SUN Sparc and have a problem with display of
> old PINE 3.91 sent-mail (fcc) folders. If I view them with PINE 3.96 the
> name of the sender (my own name) is displayed, while in PINE 3.91 the I
> the reciepients name was displayed as it should be.
> Is there a chance to convert the 3.91-fcc-folders to 3.93-fcc-folders?

Conversion may not be needed. In all the time between versions
3.91 and 3.96, I do not recall anything like this happening to me.
However, in 3.96 you can control the layout of the index listing. Go
into your configuration and read the online help for the field
index-format. Since this is merely a configuration option for how the
display looks, you could play around with it a little to see if that
makes any difference. If it doesn't work, just put it back the way it
was before you started and you have not lost anything. Good luck.

Paul <[email protected]>
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Hi!

First of all I want to say that I LOVE PINE and sing it's praises to
everyone. You have really come up with a wonderful email system that's
easy to use. I wish everyone used it.

QUESTION: How do I get my "saved-messages" folder and "sent-mail" folders
to show up at the beginning of the folder list along with the INBOX? I
have looked through the configuration (Pine 3.95) and can't figure out
how to fix this. I have a long 4-column list and saved-messages and
sent-mail are way down in the s's. Please help. Thanks.

:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:
Mary Greene, Statistical Lab, UC Davis, Davis, CA 95616, 916-752-6096
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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Joan Forester <forester> wrote:

>When I am in the Folder Index, what does the "+" on the left hand side
> represent?

It's a message from Satan. It tells you to read the help that comes with
pine >;-> Try saying ? in the message window:

o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent
directly to your account, your copy is not part of a cc: or a mailing
list.

>P.S. Please note the new phone number.
> (410) 278-4977

Ok. And then?

Cheers,
Robin

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> As an alternative to this approach, see my web page

If you neither want to study any webpages nor install any additional
scripts you can just add the following entries:

display-filters=
_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAG")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp,
_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp -m,
_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp -ka _TMPFILE_

sending-filters=/usr/local/bin/pgp -feat _RECIPIENTS_

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Subject: Re: how i can get base64
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On Sweetmorn, the 10th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3163, Patricia Ibasca
used X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) to write the following message:

>answer to <[email protected]>

Wrong newsgroup, Madam... Apart from that, there are some tools that can
help you to "get" (I presume you mean "decode") base64'ed messages. Check

<a href="http:www.yahoo.com>ME TOO!!!</a>

for further information. There's a search engine that will help you to find
what you need.

Cheers,
Robin

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PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+**

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I have recieved mime format from uk
and it reads like this

- - -- -IF9A79BB433E. (WHAT DOES THIS MEANS?)
CONTENT TYPE: TEXT/PLAIN;CHARSET=USA-ASCII
CONTENT TRANSFER: ENCODING:7BIT
- - - - IF 9A79BB433E
CONTENT IMAGE:IMAGE/JPEG; NAME=B1JPG
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I am not sure what is going on with our system, but my friends who use
american online can send me mail, but the letter is not attached. For
example, their address and subject can be read, but nothing else. Their
letter seems blank is there something wrong with our system.

Sincerely,
Stephanie Blanshard

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Lately whenever I look at my mail in Pine, no messages at all from any
previous time that I had opened Pine remain in my INBOX, MAIL, or NEWMAIL
folders. That is to say, I can look at my mail (even just the lists or
indexes of messages), quit without deleting anything or even
transfer read mail to the MAIL folder, then go back in to Pine and not a
single message from the previous pass remains.

I also have two NEWMAIL (second in lower case) folders that bring in all
new messages in duplicate into two separate but identical/parallel folders
which used to fill up my mailbox (doubling the amount of used up disk
quota space) at an alarming rate. Often now my INBOX and MAIL folders are
empty when I open or re-open Pine. At such times, the folder list shows
NO NEWMAIL folders at all. Is it possible that this old troublesome bug
is causing my new, even more bothersome bug?

Please help. Looking at all the help screens didn't do anything. Thank
you!

--Boundary_[ID_udV+paWf/5ww4QXYDf6Rvg]
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Pine built 22-JAN-1997 11:05:13.29 on host: limpet.innosoft.com
========== struct pine * ==========
ui: login = egertel, full = Elliot H Gertel
home = SYS$USERS:[EGERTEL]
home_dir= SYS$USERS:[EGERTEL]
hostname= acc.fau.edu
localdom= fau.edu
userdom= NULL
maildom= acc.fau.edu
cur_cntxt= []
cur_fldr= {pine.cac.washington.edu:144/anonymous}#news.updates.pine395
actual mbox= {pine.cac.washington.edu}#news.updates.pine395
msgmap: tot=5, cur=5, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival
actual inbox= inbox
inbox map: tot=2, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival
term type=, size=24x80, speed=normal
======= Current_val options set =======
personal-name : Elliot H Gertel
user-id : egertel
inbox-path : inbox
folder-collections : local []
default-fcc : ""
default-saved-msg-fo : MAIL
postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
mail-directory : pine-mail
read-message-folder : MAIL
signature-file : pine.signature
address-book : pine.addressbook
feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set
: enable-alternate-editor-cmd
: enable-bounce-cmd
: enable-flag-cmd
: enable-full-header-cmd
: enable-jump-shortcut
: enable-suspend
: enable-tab-completion
saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
sort-key : arrival
addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
character-set : DEC-MCS
editor : EDIT/TPU
composer-wrap-column : 74
reply-indent-string : >
empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients
image-viewer : pmdf_exe:xv.exe
use-only-domain-name : no
printer : PRINT/DELETE
standard-printer : PRINT/DELETE
last-time-prune-ques : 97.6
last-version-used : 3.95
bugs-fullname : Pine Bug Report
bugs-address : Postmaster
suggest-fullname : Pine Developers
suggest-address : [email protected]
local-fullname : Local Support
local-address : postmaster
kblock-passwd-count : 1
viewer-overlap : 2
scroll-margin : 0
status-message-delay : 0
mail-check-interval : 150
elm-style-save : no
header-in-reply : no
feature-level : sapling
old-style-reply : no
save-by-sender : no
======= Command_line_val options set =======
======= User_val options set (SYS$USERS:[EGERTEL]pine.pinerc) =======
last-time-prune-ques : 97.6
last-version-used : 3.95
======= Global_val options set (pmdf_table:pine.conf) =======
inbox-path : inbox
folder-collections : local []
default-fcc : ""
default-saved-msg-fo : MAIL
postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
mail-directory : pine-mail
read-message-folder : MAIL
signature-file : pine.signature
address-book : pine.addressbook
feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set
: enable-alternate-editor-cmd
: enable-bounce-cmd
: enable-flag-cmd
: enable-full-header-cmd
: enable-jump-shortcut
: enable-suspend
: enable-tab-completion
saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
sort-key : arrival
addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
character-set : DEC-MCS
editor : EDIT/TPU
composer-wrap-column : 74
reply-indent-string : >
empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients
image-viewer : pmdf_exe:xv.exe
use-only-domain-name : no
printer : PRINT/DELETE
standard-printer : PRINT/DELETE
bugs-fullname : Pine bug report
bugs-address : Postmaster
suggest-fullname : Pine Developers
suggest-address : [email protected]
local-fullname : Local Support
local-address : postmaster
kblock-passwd-count : 1
viewer-overlap : 2
scroll-margin : 0
status-message-delay : 0
mail-check-interval : 150
elm-style-save : no
header-in-reply : no
feature-level : sapling
old-style-reply : no
save-by-sender : no
======= Fixed_val options set (pmdf_table:pine.conf-fixed) =======
bugs-fullname : Pine Bug Report
bugs-address : Postmaster
========== Feature settings ==========
no-allow-talk
no-assume-slow-link
no-auto-move-read-msgs
no-auto-open-next-unread
no-auto-zoom-after-select
no-auto-unzoom-after-apply
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no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs
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enable-aggregate-command-set
enable-alternate-editor-cmd
no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly
enable-bounce-cmd
no-enable-cruise-mode
no-enable-cruise-mode-delete
no-enable-dot-files
no-enable-dot-folders
enable-flag-cmd
no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly
enable-full-header-cmd
no-enable-goto-in-file-browser
no-enable-incoming-folders
enable-jump-shortcut
no-enable-mail-check-cue
no-enable-mouse-in-xterm
no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon
enable-suspend
enable-tab-completion
no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting
no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks
no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists
no-expanded-view-of-folders
no-expunge-without-confirm
no-fcc-on-bounce
no-include-attachments-in-reply
no-include-header-in-reply
no-include-text-in-reply
no-news-approximates-new-status
no-news-post-without-validation
no-news-read-in-newsrc-order
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no-use-function-keys
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========== Latest keystrokes ==========

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would you pls arrange to send me information about pine and faq if so
pls arrange to send me.

thanks

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All,

I'm trying to set pine with different incoming folders, as
procmail distributes the messages to diffente folders.

To do so, I've created a folder named inbox where procmail puts
everything, and then I edited .pinerc and put the following:

incoming-folders=sf-lit inbox/sf-lit,
culture inbox/culture,
cnet inbox/cnet,
inbox-read inbox/inbox-read,
nt-sec inbox/nt-sec,
pine inbox/pine-info,

This works fine, however when I'm the last message of one of the
folders and I tell pine to go to the next folder he says "no more incoming
folders" and stays in INBOX.

Does anyone know how to make this work? Also, If there's a way to
make all the folders in a directory show up without having to specify them
individually, I'd be glad to know it!

The other thing I'm trying to set up is that when replying to a
message with different "from", "reply-to", "reply", pine showed a menu and
I had to choose which one of the addresses I want to reply to. I've seen
this work, but I don't know what setting I have to change.

Thanks for your help!

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the tin newsreader has an excellent built in ability to sign or encrypt messages before sending them off, by
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patch for this, where can I get it now and will it be included in the next pine release?

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I am using Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 in an Xterm window.
I am using 'vim' editor as my alternate editor all the time.

Problem:
Whenever I first launch up Pine with all the mouse features enabled, it works
fine and recognizes my mouse clicks and takes the appropriate action.

Now when I compose a new mail or a reply, an action which fires up my
alternate editor, this editor is also mouse-aware. It interprets my mouse
clicks and does with it whatever it is designed to do.

When I exit the editor and send the reply/mail and go back to the main
Index window, or any other Pine screen, my mouse clicks are totally ignored.
Pine seems to have lost control of the mouse!

When I now exit Pine and launch it again, the whole scenario is
repeated. i.e. it initially is mouse-aware, but as soon as I launch a editor
that is also mouse-aware, Pine loses the battle!

I use the 'slrn' newsreader with 'vim' , both of which are mouse-aware
programs and I dont have this problem there! Looks like something peculiar to
Pine 3.95.

Please look into it and let me know what can be done.

Thanks,
--Vikas

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, David Kramer wrote:

> What is the format for the header line requesting return recipt?
>
> Does pine send a return recipt when this header is in the header?

Return-Receipt-To: _your_email_address_

Whether or not you get a receipt back has nothing to do with Pine. It
depends on whether the receiving (other) system honors the request or
not. Some do, many do not. There is nothing, really, that you can do
about it, as there is no way to force it. And a return receipt only
means that the mail was delivered. It says nothing about whether the
intended recipient has actually read the mail -- or even discarded it
unread, for that matter.

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My pine program gave me a message that it is reporting a bug. What does
that mean and can you fix it. I have needed to print messages for a class
and I am unable to do so. The print command seems to work but does not
transfer to the printer. I have checked all connections to the printer and
everything is ok.
Please help

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Hi

I'n using Pine 3.91 and Linux 1.2.1

I have been using pine several years now and with now problems, but
now...

Pine does not get mail one user at all, it only sends mail.
(that user its not root)

All others users it works fine.

It wont even get undeliver mail back to that user , and
/var/spool/mail/"user" there seems to be that users name file and
mail, but Pine does not find that it only show INBOX 0 messages?

Can anyone help me with this problem?

Replys ONLY to [email protected]

(i cant read news verry often so.. reply email thanks)

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Also extractor software

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What is the format for the header line requesting return recipt?

Does pine send a return recipt when this header is in the header?

-------------------------------------------------------------------
DDDD David Kramer [email protected]
DK KD http://www.concentric.net/~dskramer
DKK D
DK KD AMNESIA: Condition that enables a woman who has gone
DDDD through labor to have sex again.

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Hello ppl...

I have a question... Will the next version of PINE have better support for POP3?

Right now to check my mail I have to boot windows and use Eudora...

I don't like X so I can't use Netscape's mail...

One last thing.. When will the next version be out?

Thx..

----------------------

EDevil

<bold>toXyn technologies</bold>, <italic>Inc</italic>.

http://toxyn.pt.eu.org

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On 31 May 1997 00:26:25 -0700, Robin S Socha <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>anyone ever tried E(xport) and then strg+v? Hangs my pine for Linux 3.95.

Geez, I haven't been around in a while. I don't think I understand what you're
asking, Robin? Do you mean as in export a message, then when it asks for the
file name, type 'strg+v'? I just tried it in 3.95, and it seems to work ok.

--
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On 3 Jun 1997 20:57:25 -0700, Jason Bolin <[email protected]> wrote:
>my name is jason my email account is in trouble. when open it by typing
>at the sys prompt pine
>it comes up and the first thing it says "Bad OR MISSING COMMA?"
>
> [Bad initial keystroke "" (missing comma?)
>that is it exactly
>i cant recieve mail anymore on this accoutn
>i can however send mail to my self and recieve it. if you can help please
>send me mail to [email protected]

Have a look in the (S)etup, (C)onfig menu for the initial keystrokes list. If
you don't expect it to contain anything, then make sure it is empty. If you
*do* expect it to contain items, make sure you add them using the (A)dd item
selection. Check the context sensitive help, (?), for information on how it
should be formatted.

If this isn't the problem, then possibly "pine" at your command prompt has
been aliased incorrectly? Type 'which pine' to find out. The response will
tell you if it's been aliased, and to what.

--
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Sylvain Robitaille [email protected]

Assistant to the System Manager
Computing Services Department
Concordia University Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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my school's server does not support pine, but i've been using 3.96 from
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I've just started using Procmail with Pine and have run into an annoying
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the mailing list folders where there may be 40 or so messages and the
last one at the bottom is always the one selected to be read. How can I
get it to start at the 1st message in the folder?

Thanks for any info.
Jason

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>>>apparently disabled pine's inbox. they recommended we change it to 10.2
>>>architecture, but it won't go above 8.0. in a fit of helplessness, our
>>>sysadmins had no other recommendations. i'd appreciate any suggestions
>>>you guys have. thanks.

It sounds more like your inbox may live in a different directory now...

OR

Have your sysadmins pick up the binary or source and re-install it for
you.

Pretty lame on their part...

Mike
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>>>the mailing list folders where there may be 40 or so messages and the
>>>last one at the bottom is always the one selected to be read. How can I
>>>get it to start at the 1st message in the folder?

Change the mail sort order from the Main - Setup - Config menu??? I think
this will fix it.

Mike
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Hi

I am using Pine 3.91 for Unix via Kermit 3.11. Is there anyway I can
block out notorious spammers like cyberpromo? If not, is there some
software which will work?

Please e-mail your reply to: [email protected]

Thanks!

Suzanne Fortin
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WARNING!

DO NOT send me email promoting your product, service, cause get-rich-quick
scheme. I DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH SPAMMERS!!! If you send me unsollicited
e-mail, I will track you down, no matter how forged your header is, and I
will complain to your server or your feeder. You have been warned.

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Someone wrote:

> Hello ppl...
> I have a question... Will the next version of PINE have better support
> for POP3?
> Right now to check my mail I have to boot windows and use Eudora...
> I don't like X so I can't use Netscape's mail...

I use Pine with a pop3 account just fine. In the .pinerc file simply put
a /pop3 after the name of the server in the 'inbox' field. For instance,
if your inbox line says:

{mail.server.net}inbox

change it to:

{mail.server.net/pop3}inbox

Hope that this helps...

--

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Dana Booth <[email protected]>
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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions
to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine --
please consult these resources:

The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes,
Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are
available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be
accessed:

- In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/

- Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the
documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form.

- The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection
(from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to
folder-collections and choose Add Value) as:
*{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[]

The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives
can be accessed:

- In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
(includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information
on how to subscribe to this mailing list)

- Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
subdirectory /pine/pine-info/.

- From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN
MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and
choose Add Value) as:
*{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]

If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before
and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past
messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/
or
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt

If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact
the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service
Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization
provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on
using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from
site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large
number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington
cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other
organizations.)

Sun Jun 8 03:00:06 PDT 1997

-----------------------------------
Pine development and support team
University of Washington
Computing & Communications
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I got the impression the 3.96 version of PC pine was going to support
POP3 mailservers. Anyone know if this is in fact the case?

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On 4 Jun 1997, Ruth Lazkoz Saez wrote:

> I hope you will be able to help me without taking to much time to do it.
>
> Is there any way to know if a message has been read by the receiver?

In general, no. Sorry. Some proprietary mail systems can provide
a receipt indicating that a mail message has been opened, but such
systems are just that -- proprietary and private. There is no standard
on the Internet as a whole providing for what you want. Mail systems
on the Internet are so diverse that I expect it would be technically
difficult to implement such a standard. In Pine (and other mailers),
you can create a Return-receipt-to: header requesting a delivery
receipt, but there is no way to force the receiving system to honor it.
Some do, but many do not. And even if you get such a receipt back, it
only indicates that the mail has been delivered, not that it has been
read.

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Does anyone know how to restrict the number of indices in a news
group retrieved in Pine? For example, is it possible to tell Pine only to
retrieve most recently posted 50 iterms in a news group?

Thanks for your help in advance!

Zeyuan Ren
email: [email protected]

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I got a message that won't allow me to access Wordperfect 6.0. It says
Unable to run C:\WPC 20|MFWIN20.EXE/I-US/#

Can you help?

C. Alexander

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Sorry, no. And even though 4.00 will have the POP driver included, it
still will not offer *offline* support. That is, it requires that you
remain connected while you process mail --just as unix Pine with the POP
driver enabled does.

-teg

On Sun, 8 Jun 1997 [email protected] wrote:

> I got the impression the 3.96 version of PC pine was going to support
> POP3 mailservers. Anyone know if this is in fact the case?
>
>
>
>

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Simple question ...

Can pine compose a message containing a correct message/external-body
component ?

I can add a broken section using the mime.types file but I can't see
any way to convince pine to do it right ... I'm using pine 3.95q on
Linux.

--
Rob. (Robert de Bath <http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday>)

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Is there a way for me to change the value of the From: header field?
I have been hunting through the manuals to no avail.
Please help.
Thank you.

Dr. Ivan Shim
[email protected]

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> From [email protected] Jun 8 19:04:19 1997
> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 20:44:55 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: you
>
> teniss ball bomb

> Rip matcheads off and fill tennis ball(Make a hole)until full.Throw a
> geek.BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.Thank Jolley
> rodger.He helped. IM 12 and i know how.Email me back

<snip>

If you find this not only annoying but also a very illegal use of the
Internet, forward a copy to [email protected] and any other addresses,
like [email protected] and ask them to put a stop to it. I already have.
So far it hasn't bounced back, so I hope the address is valid.

[email protected]

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I have been telnetting into my account at school from home over the
summer. My friends and I all write from our accounts at school so you
would think that there would not be a problem getting eamil through the
system, howeve, lately I have not been receiving email from people that
they have sent to me. I have even tried writing a message to myself and
sending it and I didn't receive it. They have also not been receiving
some of my email. The thing that is really confusing me is that out of
every 4 letter I usually get one and for every three or four that I write,
one or two go through. Do you have any suggestions. Of course I don't
even know if you will get this message or if I will receive your reaponse.
Please try though, I really won't be able to live without my email. Thank
you.
Sincerely,
Amy Smith

"Thanks for noticing me..."
~Eeyore

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On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:27:08 GMT, Hilary Whitehead
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am working away from my UNIX box for a time and would like to forward
>all my mail to another address. I thought this was possible with a
>.forward file that I thought I used in college (several years ago) but
>now I can't figure out how I did it.

Simple. Create a file in your home directory, called .forward, which contains
the address where you want your mail forwarded.

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Computing Services Department
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On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Juhis wrote:
> This is a warning for ALL INTERNET USERS -THERE IS A LETHAL AND
> DANGEROUS VIRUS PROPAGATING ACROSS THE INTERNET through
> message titled "PENPAL GREETINGS!"

No there isn't. See the FAQ in comp.virus or alt.comp.virus.

--
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Is it possible that pine would use
overview database to access newsgroup
articles? This is much faster open one file
overview than several files (sometimes
thousands of them), especially localy.
In the remote access this could be also better.

Best regards,
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repost to Pine-Info

On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, root wrote:

> I would like to use 'pine' for every thing 'mail'-like, but
> I can NOT do the euivelent:
> 'mailx -s "report foo bar in `pwd` set of progream" systemop" $*
>
> since pine does NOT allow init key strokes to the composer, is there
> any work arround?
>
> dave
>

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Amy, the problem most likely isn't in pine itself, but in the mailer
configuration on the system you're using. You should talk to the
administrators of the system (probably [email protected]) to see if they
can track down specific messages to see where they went. It would
probably help them if you could give exact details about which messages
you havn't received (i.e. From who and when)...

Hope this helps,
Rick

On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Amy Smith wrote:

> I have been telnetting into my account at school from home over the
> summer. My friends and I all write from our accounts at school so you
> would think that there would not be a problem getting eamil through the
> system, howeve, lately I have not been receiving email from people that
> they have sent to me. I have even tried writing a message to myself and
> sending it and I didn't receive it. They have also not been receiving
> some of my email. The thing that is really confusing me is that out of
> every 4 letter I usually get one and for every three or four that I write,
> one or two go through. Do you have any suggestions. Of course I don't
> even know if you will get this message or if I will receive your reaponse.
> Please try though, I really won't be able to live without my email. Thank
> you.
> Sincerely,
> Amy Smith
>
> "Thanks for noticing me..."
> ~Eeyore
>
>

=========================================================================
Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide
[email protected] System Admin, Tech Support
Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400
http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/

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Ok guys and gals, what's the secret to printing out a file? I can either
print out my entire "inbox" of messages or I can "print-screen." What the
magic? This is the 21st Century.
Ray ([email protected])

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hi....i cant seem to view my messages when they come in.the only way i can
view it is through my other account. ccan you give me some help.
thank you
tina

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If you got any pics of Mariah Carey can u please send them to me

Thankz

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I just installed pine on a new AIX box where it's sole purpose will be for
dumb terminal email and no shell access. Is it possible (without
re-compiling) to take out the <SETUP> --> <N-ewPassword> feature so my
users cannot chanage their password? Should I just install an older
version that does not have this capability?

Thanks!

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Suggestion for future upgrades:

When I reply to a message from someone whose e-mail ID is in my addresslist,
it would be nice if the Fcc were automatically changed to the one in my
addressfile rather than the default. Is there a way to accomplish this now?
As it is, I have to change it by hand or replace the To line with the one in
my addressbook.

-Martin Einhorn

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Hi,
I am using Pine 3.94. Is there a way to tell Pine to mark old messages
with an O like elm does it instead of a N?

Thanks in advance
Schreini

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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote:
>
> Add the following keyword to the "feature-list" list of values in your
> systemwide Pine configuration file (and to your fixed file too)...
>
> disable-password-cmd
>

Thanks for your time!

Vincenzo

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When I received mail from some e-mail programs like Eudora, the from
field contains some characters like:

Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:01:13 +0100
From:
=?iso-8859-1?Q?An=EDbal_Mayorga_=3Camayorga=40catie.ac.cr=3E?=@computo.catie.ac.

cr
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Subject: ��

This problem is present when the originate user is using Spanish
(acentuation words).

Thanks for your help.

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I've got a client running 3.89 Pine on a Solaris 2.4 system. The
'Mailbox is READONLY' problem just occurred system-wide. It was
solved with a reboot but what mystifies the client - and what I
hoped someone on the list could explain to me - is why that
problem would happen to everyone on site? Is there something
unique to Solaris that causes Pine to think *everyone* has a
duplicate session running?

Lea
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for every one individual that gets pissed off just because he or she thinks
someone has invaded their sorry ass little private space with bulk e-mail,
theres hundreds who like to get new info over their computers. its very
little trouble to delete an unwanted e-mail anyway, so i don't understand
what the big deal is!! whats next, not allowing direct mail through postage
just because you don't want to walk over to the trash can to throw it away!!
making telemarketing legal because you don't have the balls to tell the
person on the other end your not interested!!! this is american free
enterprise and there are many businesses and people who rely on this type of
advertising to make a living! i'm not one of them, but i don't mind deleting
an unwanted e-mail every now and then. who knows, one of them might interest
me someday. this is the 90's. if you don't like free enterprise then build a
log cabin in the woods and fish for food.

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>> Regarding ilegible characters in form field; "Eddie Salazar C."
>> <[email protected]> adds:

Eddie> When I received mail from some e-mail programs like Eudora, the
Eddie> from field contains some characters like:
Eddie> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:01:13 +0100 From:
Eddie> =?iso-8859-1?Q?An=EDbal_Mayorga_=3Camayorga=40catie.ac.cr=3E?=@computo.catie.ac.
Eddie> cr To: [email protected] Subject: AIims
Eddie> This problem is present when the originate user is using
Eddie> Spanish (acentuation words).

This problem is well known :-) Only plain ascii is allowed in the
header of emails, but what you get is iso-8859-1, because you're
friend is using Spanish. There is a workaround with procmail, but
generally, it'd be better if your friend stuck to the conventions,
i.e. he didn't use diacritics in the headers of his emails.

If you like, you can put the following into your .procmailrc:

-------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------
:0 fh
* =\?ISO-8859-[0-9]+\?Q\?
|perl -pe 's#=\?ISO-8859-\d+\?Q\?(.*?)\?=#$s=$1;
$s=~s/\s+(\r?\n)/$1/g;'\
-e '$s=~s/=\r?\n//g; $s=~s/=([\da-fA-F]{2})/pack("C", hex($1))/ge;'\
-e '$s#ge;'
-------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------

HTH,
Robin

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This is the second time that I have had an account that utilized pine. The
first time was when I attended the Univ. of Washington. Initially, my
newsgroup postings worked like everyone else's. By this I mean that my
name appeared in the name collumn identifying me as the sender of the
message on the newsgroups list of messages. Just before I left the U, my
postings began to show either a) the name of the newsgoup ex: To:
alt.politics.britain or b) the name of the party to whom I was responding
ex: To: Jim Smith, in this collumn. This varies with whether I choose to
respond to the original party via email or just post to the group. The
situation is now repeating itself with my current account. Does this sound
familiar to anyone? Is their a way I can fix it?

Thanks,
Kevin McCabe

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>> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:02:30 -0700 (PDT), Kevin McCabe <[email protected]> said:

[...]
Kevin> postings began to show either a) the name of the newsgoup ex:
Kevin> To: alt.politics.britain or b) the name of the party to whom I
Kevin> was responding ex: To: Jim Smith, in this collumn. This varies
Kevin> with whether I choose to respond to the original party via
Kevin> email or just post to the group. The situation is now repeating
Kevin> itself with my current account. Does this sound familiar to
Kevin> anyone? Is their a way I can fix it?

Yep. Quite Easy: stop posting to alt.politics.britain and responding
to Jim Smith. I mean, isn't a.p.b. something like alt.italian.heroes?

Otherwise, keep reading this newsgroup, because the same question will
come up at least twice a week and maybe someday you'll understand that
(as the faq says) this is the wanted behaviour. Ever considered using
Gnus? Hehehe >:->

Later,
Robin

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>> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT),
>> MrPayback
>> who can be reached at: [email protected]
>> (whose comments are cited below with "MrPayback> "),
>> had this to say in article <[email protected]>
>> concerning the subject of re:bulk e-mail
MrPayback> for every one individual that gets pissed off just because
MrPayback> he or she thinks someone has invaded their sorry ass little
MrPayback> private space with bulk e-mail, theres hundreds who like to
MrPayback> get new info over their computers. its very little trouble
MrPayback> to delete an unwanted e-mail anyway, so i don't understand
MrPayback> what the big deal is!! whats next, not allowing direct mail
MrPayback> through postage just because you don't want to walk over to
MrPayback> the trash can to throw it away!! making telemarketing
MrPayback> legal because you don't have the balls to tell the person
MrPayback> on the other end your not interested!!! this is american
MrPayback> free enterprise and there are many businesses and people
MrPayback> who rely on this type of advertising to make a living! i'm
MrPayback> not one of them, but i don't mind deleting an unwanted
MrPayback> e-mail every now and then. who knows, one of them might
MrPayback> interest me someday. this is the 90's. if you don't like
MrPayback> free enterprise then build a log cabin in the woods and
MrPayback> fish for food.

Hey, [email protected], these pricks are GETTING ON MY NERVES! This is
the umptheenth time I've posted a complaint to you. So here's the
deal: I got this nice 100 Mbit line at my disposal. How about me
mailbombing a couple of your "customers"? Either respond with a sound
explanation of why you let them use university resources for this
bullshit or get ready for some serious complaints. K?

Later,
Robin

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>> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT),
>> MrPayback
>> who can be reached at: [email protected]
>> (whose comments are cited below with "MrPayback> "),
>> had this to say in article <[email protected]>
>> concerning the subject of re:bulk e-mail

MrPayback> for every one individual that gets pissed off just because
MrPayback> he or she thinks

"Think"? Now where did MrPayback get that word from?

MrPayback> someone has invaded their sorry ass little private space
MrPayback> with bulk e-mail, theres hundreds who like to get new info
MrPayback> over their computers.

Info? What info? On which "my computer"? You're sucking up university
resources, you little twit.

MrPayback> its very little trouble to delete an unwanted e-mail
MrPayback> anyway, so i don't understand what the big deal is!!

Am I getting something wrong or did he just ask for some kernel
sources in handy chunks? Say, like 1k or something?

MrPayback> whats next, not allowing direct mail through postage just
MrPayback> because you don't want to walk over to the trash can to
MrPayback> throw it away!!

*argl* How stupid can one get? Unsollicited commercial mail is as
illegal as UC faxes... and email is considered to be the same. What
MrPayback is doing is illegal.

MrPayback> making telemarketing legal because you don't have the balls
MrPayback> to tell the person on the other end your not interested!!!

Man, are you wrong... I'd beat the living crap out of you if you had
the guts to show up here... But you don't.

MrPayback> this is american free enterprise and there are many
MrPayback> businesses and people who rely on this type of advertising
MrPayback> to make a living!

Duhhh... What the heck do I care about some lackwit doing "american
free enterprise"? You we do "German slavery" here...

MrPayback> i'm not one of them, but i don't mind deleting an unwanted
MrPayback> e-mail every now and then. who knows, one of them might
MrPayback> interest me someday.

Ok, see if you like X-sources... Reading them can be quite refreshing...

MrPayback> this is the 90's.

Attention all readers, here comes the philosophical part...

MrPayback> if you don't like free enterprise then build a log cabin in
MrPayback> the woods and fish for food.

Yep, that's just what I was planning on doing...

Anyone ever got a reply from [email protected]? Not me --- wonder why?

Later,
Robin

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Eddie,

> =?iso-8859-1?Q?

> This problem is present when the originate user is using Spanish
> (acentuation words).

[S]etup -> [C]onfig -> character-set -> ISO-8859-1

Salutacions, Pere ---- __o CIS: 100340,2110
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