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From: Richard Gering <[email protected]>
To: John Treloar <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Out of free storage
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On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, John Treloar wrote:

> I am running pine 3.91 on a linux server. I have recieved some mail with a
> large binary MIME attachment (5MB). When I try to read it (to see the text
> part and save the attachment) I get an 'Out of free storage' message.
>
> Is there a way of increasing the storage space or is this just too big to
> be practical? I couldn't see any options in the setup configuration.
>
> Thanks in anticipation.  :-)

Hi John,

Are you sure that you've not truly run out of memory? (RAM + swap space).
Pine will report the "Out of free storage" message only if it fails to
obtain free memory (using malloc()).

Just run "free" on another terminal at about the time Pine is to display
the message "Out of free storage" and check the amount of free memory left.
If you're running short on memory you can (temporary) obtain additional swap
space by letting Linux swap into a regular file. Checkout the command "swapon"
for more info.

> ______________________________________________________________________________
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Best regards,

- Richard Gering.


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From: [email protected] (Steve Patlan)
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:25:22 GMT
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>   "Mark A. Wille" <[email protected]> writes:
>  How does one upload a file to his/her directory, where then he/she can
>  attach it? Thank you very much for your help.


Well, first you plug your cellular modem into the cigarette lighter of your '74
Plymouth RoadRunner, connect it to your PowerBook 540, and then you insert your Zip
cartridge and select "Upload" from the Apple menu.  Easy.  Then you tell us a little
more about what kind of computer and software and connection you are using before
asking such a silly question.

If you're using Zterm (or the like) on a Mac, you would use the "send files zmodem"
option under the File menu.  You must make sure that you have correctly configured
your System type (Unix/Opus).  Of course, I'm just assuming that "rz" is available on
MCS. (Which should be a safe assumption.)  Zterm issues the "rz" command for you.
This might not be true of all comm programs.  If it's not true for you, you manually
enter "rz" before sending the file.

If you're using a Dos or Windows comm program, you select the appropriate file
transfer option with the appropriate keystroke or menu command.

If you're telnetting into MCS, use the appropriate ftp client for your platform.
"Fetch" on the Mac, "WinFTP" or "WSFtp" on the PC.

- Steve



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The EXMH mail application uses "glimpse" to do full text indexing on
all saved mail messages.

<URL: http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu:1994/glimpsehelp.html>



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From: [email protected] (Fredrick Backman)
Subject: Re: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc
Date: 1 Nov 1995 07:55:06 GMT
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In article [email protected],  Ralf Wenzel <[email protected]> writes:
>Hi!
>
>My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the
>printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to
>print.
>
>Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't
>know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that
>pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the
>name of that file?

I really don't know if there is a temporary file, but perhaps you don't need
it to solve the problem. I would suggest you put this line in your .pinerc:

personal-print-command=cat - | /za/prx

(I guess it's supposed to be /za/prx and not /za/prx/)
You must, however, specify the printer number x.

I believe "cat -" is necessary, though it may seem a bit silly.


/Phred

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email protected]>
To: Fredrick Backman <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc
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If you check the helpful text underneath where you set this up (Start
Pine 3.91, type S for setup, then P for printer) you will see you need to
give a command that the message is *piped* into.... there is no filename
involved.

So as long as the user's "/za/prx" program can accept text piped into it,
instead of just a filename on the command line then the necessary command
is just "/za/prx".

Mike Brudenell                                         <[email protected]>
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On 1 Nov 1995, Fredrick Backman wrote:

> In article [email protected],  Ralf Wenzel <[email protected]> writes:
> >Hi!
> >
> >My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the
> >printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to
> >print.
> >
> >Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't
> >know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that
> >pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the
> >name of that file?
>
> I really don't know if there is a temporary file, but perhaps you don't need
> it to solve the problem. I would suggest you put this line in your .pinerc:
>
> personal-print-command=cat - | /za/prx
>
> (I guess it's supposed to be /za/prx and not /za/prx/)
> You must, however, specify the printer number x.
>
> I believe "cat -" is necessary, though it may seem a bit silly.
>
>
> /Phred
>
> ---
> .-.. .. ...- .. -. --. .. -. .- ...- .- -.-. ..- ..- -- ... ..- -.-. -.- ...
> Fredrick Backman. Research Engineer, handsome, smart, athletic, and modest!!
> Dept of Linguistics, Umea University, 901 87 Umea, Sweden. [email protected]
> URL: <http://www.ling.umu.se/~phred> Phone: +46-90-165676 Fax: +46-90-133162
> "Take a stress pill and think things over." -Hal9000  "Don't Panic!" -HHGTTG
>
>


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From: [email protected] (D Parsons)
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Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:06:34 GMT
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I downloaded pine3.91.tar.Z from ftp.cac.washington.edu but have not been
able to finish its installation. The documentation is ambiguous about
porting versions. The file /doc/pine-ports was absent from the tar file.
Since therewere makefiles with extensions of .sol and .sun I tried
'build sol' and 'build sun'. Both of these aborted with several complaints
about an absent 'default.mk' file. Can anyone tell me where to find a
source file that does indeed work with Solaris2.3. Thanks, Don

--
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Subject: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:55:03 +0100
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Hi!

My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the
printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to
print.

Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't
know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that
pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the
name of that file?

(Pine 3.91 for UNIX SVR4)

Please send a Cc of your answer to me (mail), thanks a lot in advance

       Ralf


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From: [email protected] (Christian Nielsen)
Subject: Re: please help
Date: 1 Nov 1995 00:47:34 GMT
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You might want to check your config

# Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first
# folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
# Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder
collection.
default-fcc=


Jonathan and DearOldDad ([email protected]) wrote:
: [email protected] wrote:
: :    can anyone tell me how I can set a folder in the config setting of pine to keep a copy of the mail I send...in other words a sent-mail folder
: : Thanks ina dvance
: : [email protected]

: Hhmmmm ... sent-mail (as well as INBOX and saved-messages) is one of the
: three default folders in pine.  Either you've been playing with your
: setup config thingy, or your sys admin has disabled it, or ... I give up
: ... anyone else?

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From: Nico van der Horn <[email protected]>
To: The Pine Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: PC-PINE + UUPC Possible ?
Message-Id: <Pine.SCO.3.91.951101160734.2789C-100000@horn>
Organisation: VANDERHORN VOF
Address: Oranjelaan 40
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I am using Pine for a couple of months on SCO Unix and OpenServer.

Because we have some travelling notebook's running Kendra's UUPC with a
standard mail.exe, I wanted to change the MUA to PC-Pine.

I have on hand "pcpine_[fnpsw].zip" but as far as I can see, do they all
need access to a remote INBOX, and I like to work on a local file like $MAIL.

Can someone give me a hint ?

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To: [email protected]
From: [email protected] (Stephen R. van den Berg)
Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog???
Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:25:55 GMT
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References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>

Anders Waller  <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 23 Oct 1995, Sven Guckes wrote:
>> Well, this looks at *all* lines which contain "From".
>> It should be "^From: ", though.
>> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails".

>Correct...Been playing some with egrep, seems the following works, havent
>tested it much yet though...Im sure theres some case whereas it doesnt
>work.

>alias from     'more $MAILPATH | egrep "^From: | ^From "

If you have procmail/formail installed, try:

alias from      'formail -x From: -s <$MAILPATH'

This *does* skip "included non-quoted mails".
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From: Dave Hansen <[email protected]>
To: Pine Info List <[email protected]>
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Does anyone know why messages created in Eudora don't show proper dates in
the index listing in Pine 3.91?  I've just noticed that Eudora doesn't
seem to add a "Date:" header. (at least I don't see one with Rich Headers
turned on) I guess this isn't Pine's fault but does anyone know of a
solution?

Thanks,

--
Dave Hansen
[email protected]





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       To whom ever can help me,


I am currently trying to get a hold of my cousin in the university of
texas . I have not been able to get a holdof her so that she could clarify
what exacltly her address is . So far all I got from her
is"*(her identity which I will not disclose)*@.utexas.edu".

As you might already know this is not the address of the university of
texas . Can you give it to me ?

I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much
appreciated and welcomed .





                                       Thanks for your help,


                                               hsong
                                       University of Alberta (Canada)



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Tom I Helbekkmo ([email protected]) wrote:
      ... lottsa stuff including ...

: and so on.  I'm not sure what sort of query language would be best,
      ... etc etc etc ...
: keyboard shortcuts, of course -- single key commands for the most
      ... etc etc ...
: Comments, anyone?

Try $ to sort.   Tallyho!   G'Day!


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I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine??
Please give me a step by step way of doing it.
Thanks,
Jeff Walter


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good evening all..

i would like to know, if possible, how i might go about:

1. setting up an auto save before replying - trying to keep all
  communications back and forth in the appropriate fcc folders.

2. getting the news reader side to fcc to the list name rather
  than the individual authors.  same trick on saves.

3. dealing with incoming mail from [email protected] that needs to be
  routed back to a different address (or addresses) on reply.

i can do all these things manually, just wondering if i am missing
something that would allow me to make any of them automatic..

thanks in advance, etc,

[email protected]


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I'm  looking for a shareware program to implement a mail
server to suport a mail service at my local net and
for Internet with a single dial-up access.

Does it possible  ?

If you know anything to help me please, email me ok ?

Thanks in advance


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Is it possible to bind a header field to a keystroke? (ie: To: header
goes to address book when ^T is pressed)

Thanks in advance!

 Jim McConnell                                        [email protected]
=============================================================================
"The grass ain't greener, The wine ain't sweeter, Either side of the hill..."



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cancel <[email protected]>


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I have the following problem:
How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages
saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts?
I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't
mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could
contain blank lines.
I'm writing a program to go through these folders and remove most of the
fields from the headers, but I don't know of a reliable way of detecting
the start of each header.  Obviously Pine can do it, does anyone out
there know how?

Thanks
Graham


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Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell
to download or use the cat command.
Phil


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Quoting Graham Minchin:
> I have the following problem:
> How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages
> saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts?
> I'm writing a program to go through these folders and remove most of the
> fields from the headers, but I don't know of a reliable way of detecting
> the start of each header.
> Obviously Pine can do it, does anyone out there know how?

Mail headers are described by RFC0822.
If you just need a simple utility to weed away some header lines
where it does not matter whether the header lines are inside other mails
then you can take a look at the "weedout.sed" at
       http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/scripts

Sven


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On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Mark A. Wille wrote:

> I would also like to know how to do this function.
>
> On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Marty Hood wrote:
>
> > How do you do it?
> >

How do you do!
Well, one way is to export (function E) to a file on the host in your
directory, then download to your PC. Or you can do a disk capture if your
PC communication program has that function.  If you disk capture, its
better done from the exported file using the Unix cat command, that way you
don't get all the Pine menu options as part of the message.  I use a script
(my communications program comes with one) to do all of this.
Phil



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From: [email protected] (Sven Guckes)
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Quoting Scott Matteson:
> Does anyone know how to set Pine to reject all incoming mail messages?

Pine does not receive the mail.  It only looks at folders which are filled
up by the programs which receives the email.
=>  Pine does not have such a setting.

Sven


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Quoting Ryan C.:
> I was wondering if anyone has had any luck rejecting e-mail from a specific
> address?

Use a filter.
ELM's filter allows this with a rule like this:
       if (from = address) then delete

Sven

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I would like to get info on any unix/X based client that
support POP.  Also is there a copy of the POP protocol on
the net that I can fetch?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Dominic


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From: [email protected] (Andrew Brown)
Subject: Alterate Editors and SIGHUP
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We are having some trouble on our HPUX system related to Pine and SIGHUP.
When an alterate editor is open, PINE does not get the SIGHUP signal sent
when the terminal is closed (it is apparently not supposed to).  So, PINE
stays open and keeps trying to reopen the editor, which succeeds or fails
depending on the editor.

Simply enabling the signal handler didn't solve the problem.  So I
substituted exit for the signal handler, and this naturally works, but not
in a very nice way.  Any ideas how we can get PINE to die when the
terminal is closed and an alternate editor is being used?

I don't know why signal handling was disabled while pine waits for the
editor to finish, but I'll bet there is a reason.  Either this could be
changed and a handler that exits cleanly could be added, or pine could
check to see if it's process group still exists, however that's done.

Please e-mail replies to me, as I don't regularly read this group.  Thanks,

Andrew

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From: [email protected] (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Eudora messages
To: [email protected] (Dave Hansen)
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Quoting Dave Hansen:
> Does anyone know why messages created in Eudora don't show proper dates in
> the index listing in Pine 3.91?  I've just noticed that Eudora doesn't seem
> to add a "Date:" header. (at least I don't see one with Rich Headers turned
> on) I guess this isn't Pine's fault but does anyone know of a solution?

Could be a problem with the MTA which sends away the mails.
I don't think that Eudora produces the faulty Date header.
Just guessing here.

Sven


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Thanks for your message on bbs 'last dx'- i have my own e-mailer, now.
That is an amateur radio bbs, and they don't allow netservers, so i was
kind of embarrased to have what is in effect a listserver sending
commercial msgrs. to them....but i just did want to thank you for the
message you sent there.  I am having all the messages from e-books sent
to me (other msgrs. addressed as requested)  so i should be able to get
the information...thanks a lot!  Lee C. W. Hutchison  [email protected]
2700 Que Street, n.w.  mailstop 246 washington, dc  20007
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From: [email protected] (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Bug (ID VI378): When Pine is killed ...
To: [email protected] (K.T.)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:39:01 +0100 (MET)
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Quoting K.T.:
> When one of our user using the modem, and connect to our server and using
> pine (using pico as an editor) to send a email the connection is cut while
> he writing the message.
> At the previous time, he can retrieve the interuupted mail, and continue to
> compose it. However, this time he couldn't retreive the mail. And he want
> to know how he can retrieve back his mail.

It all depends on whether he saved the mail when he wrote it.
If he didn't save the mail when his editor dies the the changes are lost.

Even though pine dies, your editor might still be running.
In that case, the temporary file might still exist, too.
So go and look for the temporary file.

> He has typed this mail for 2 hrs.

Too bad.  I hope he saved the text once in a while.
General rule:  Whenever you don't want to retype what you did - save!

> He also want to know why. This part is what we can't explain and need
> your help.

How should we know why he lost the connection?
This is a local problem which you should find.

> And he also want to know how to prevent the future occurrence.

Tell him to compose mails offline and to transfer them when the mails is
reading for being sent.  That's always the best way.

Sven


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From: [email protected] (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: phone numbers
To: [email protected] (Jeffrey Mark Hoerning)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:45:19 +0100 (MET)
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Quoting Jeffrey Mark Hoerning:
> I would like to get the E-mail address of a faculty member.
> Her name is Barbara Krieger-Brockett Dept of Chemical Engineering.

Hey, this list isn't for looking up people!
Ask [email protected] or take a look at their www server.
First rule:  Ask locally!  Don't bother mailing lists!

Sven


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Date: 1 Nov 1995 06:50:35 GMT
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Hi! I'm using Pine 3.90 on Ultrix 4.4, under TCSH 6.00.02. I've set up my
TERMCAP <vt102> so that the system uses visible bells, not audible ones. To be
more precise, I've appended ":vb=:" to the end of my TERMCAP.

However, I noticed when I used PINE this evening that it ignored that setting,
beeping loud and clear when I hit a wrong key. I'd like to find a way for PINE
to obey the visible bells directive in my TERMCAP definition.

Unless I missed something, there's no way to tell 3.90 to shut up. :-) Is
there something I've missed? If not, I'd like to perhaps recommend that this
feature be added to the 3.92 (or later) wishlist.

Thanks, in advance, for any information or advice. :-)


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Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders
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Message-Id: <[email protected]>
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:45:42 GMT

In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
(Graham Minchin) writes:

  How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages
  saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts?
  I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't
  mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could
  contain blank lines.

A standard Berkeley style folder delineates messages by a "From " line
following a blank line.  Reading from the pine Tech Notes:

Berkeley Mail Format
    This format comes to us from the ancient UNIX
    mail  program,  /bin/mail.   (Note  that this
    doesn't have anything to  do  with  Berkeley,
    but  we call it the Berkeley mail file format
    anyway.) This program was  actually  used  to
    interactively  read  mail at one time, and is
    still used  on  many  systems  as  the  local
    delivery agent.  In the Berkeley mail format,
    a folder is a simple text file.  Each message
    (including  the  first)  must  start  with  a
    separator line which takes approximately  the
    form:

    From [email protected]  Wed Aug 11 14:32:33 1993


    Each  message  ends  with  two  blank  lines.   *
    There  are  actually several different varia-
    tions in the date part of the string,  twenty
    at  last  count.

* I think this should read "two newlines" -- i.e. _one_ blank line.

Hope this helps,
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I don't know if this is going to be right, or if it is even going to help
you, but do you know what your disk space quota on your server is? I know
mine is only 10MB and that fills up fast. Try checking to see if you have
surpassed your quota.

___________________________________________________________________
__Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________
[email protected]______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________
___________________________________________________________________

On 31 Oct 1995, John Treloar wrote:

> I am running pine 3.91 on a linux server. I have recieved some mail with a
> large binary MIME attachment (5MB). When I try to read it (to see the text
> part and save the attachment) I get an 'Out of free storage' message.
>
> Is there a way of increasing the storage space or is this just too big to
> be practical? I couldn't see any options in the setup configuration.
>
> Thanks in anticipation.  :-)
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> John R. Treloar
> SBSS Pty. Ltd., PO Box 130  Bendigo Australia.
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>
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Subject: Seperate incoming folders...
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:32:46 GMT

Since someone in my homehold ungraciously reads my PRIVATE email ALL the time.
 I can't get them to stop, so I have a question.  Is there a
way that (assuming my address is [email protected]), someone can send a
message to "[email protected]", it will go to my folder "Secret"?
This would be kooler than kool.  Or maybe there's a better solution that
I'm not getting. (Yeah, I would use cryptography, but everyone I know is
so lazy that they would just stop writting if I told them to encode the
messages.  Obviously, this would be a good message to respond to publicly.


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I'm Batman! uggg


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Subject: RFD: comp.mail.imap
Date: 1 Nov 1995 22:13:27 -0000
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                    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                  unmoderated group comp.mail.imap

Newsgroup line:
comp.mail.imap          Internet Message Access Protocol discussion group.

Proponent: Neal A. Dillman <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: comp.mail.imap

       Discussions of IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) currently take
place accross ~nine different news groups.  As a result, users are forced to
read and/or post to a number of mail groups in order to acquire the desired
information.  Creating comp.mail.imap will limit the need for crossposting and
create a central place for IMAP related discussion.

CHARTER: comp.mail.imap

To provide a forum for the discussion of IMAP, IMSP, and other protocols
interacting with IMAP and IMSP.  The discussion will include information
about and/or relating to IMAP clients, servers, and "middleware."  The group
will not be moderated.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This message initiates a discussion period to consider the creation of
a comp.mail.imap newsgroup. Discussion will take place on news.groups.
If discussions are made in other newsgroups, they should always be
cross-posted to news.groups.

* This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now.
 A call for votes (CFV) will we issued approximately 3 weeks after this RFD.
 When the CFV is posted, there will be instructions on how to mail your
 votes to the independant vote-taker.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation, and
has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups,comp.mail.headers,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc,
comp.mail.multi-media,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.winsock.mail,
comp.mail,comp.mail.pine,news.groups


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From: Jeffrey Herrera <[email protected]>
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Subject: bug
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Would someone please help me.  There is a bug in my system and no one=20
that I've asked knows how to help.  Whenever I'm in pine, =FD=ADcommands=20
occur on their own and letters pop up on the screen randomly.  I can't=20
even write a sentence before something happens.  All of a sudden I'll be=20
in help or in another folder without even pressing a button.  Writing=20
this message alone has taken about half an hour because of all the problems=

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