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In article <
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Rick Troxel <
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>In article
><
[email protected]>
>
[email protected] (Glenn Leavell) writes:
>
> > > 4) Add an option that makes the 'n' (NextMsg) command in the
> > > INDEX skip over messages marked for deletion.
> >
> > Try the [TAB] key. You might need to set some options in your
> > configuration. Basically, it will cause you to jump to the next
> > new/unread message.
>
> Yes, I use it regularly. But, it only goes to the next new/unread
> message. Several new Pine users here have mentioned to me that they
> would like to be able to quickly be able to get to the next message
> that has not been marked for deletion. Maybe that's being too picky,
> though.
>
>With the delete-skips-deleted feature selected, the above task can be
>performed in 1 to 2 keypresses: Just press N to advance to the very next
>message. If it's marked for deletion (check the upper right corner),
>press D and you're there; otherwise you're _already_ there.
Thanks for the response. Good point and good tip.
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Glenn Leavell,
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From: Mr Kevin Yeung <
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To: Steven Feinholz <
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Cc:
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Subject: Re: Signature files at bottom
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On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, Steven Feinholz wrote:
> 2) When Forwarding an email to another destination, the signature
> file gets placed BEFORE the included text, instead of at the
> bottom of the entire email message.
This doesn't sound to be a bug to me because you may want to write a
short note to your recipient so the whole message looks like this:
<headers>
<short notes, saying Hi and telling him/her you're forwarding something>
<your signature>
<forwarded message follows>
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From: Chip Old <
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Subject: Personal Mail Flag
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What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should
appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages
in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+",
even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming
personal messages _do_ show the "+", but enough do not to cause me to
miss important messages occasionally. Several of our other users have
complained of the same thing.
We're using Pine 3.91 SOL on a Sun Sparc Server running Solaris.2.3
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> Comes here Mr. Mr Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine"
> group in this article on 31 Jan 1995 10:47:32 -0800:
>>
>> I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail.
>> When I use the (C)ompose command to send a new message, the out-going mail
>> is correctly copied to the corresponding fcc. But if I use the (R)eply
>> command to reply messages FROM these people, the out-going messages will
>> still go to sent-mail, which is not what I want. I have to manually edit
>> the header everytime and I find this really troublesome. Is there a way
>> to get things work (I'm using Pine 3.91)? Or will Pine 3.92(?) checks the
>> addresses of all out-going mails, compare them with the entries in
>> addressbook and copy them to the correct folders? Thank you.
>
>
> It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail'
> value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add
> <Empty Value> instead by A to add and hit return immediately.
>
> But by doing this, you will not have a default-fcc for others who haven't
> graced you .addressbook. Suit yourself.
>
>
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Nope. That's not it. I have the same problem. With some addresse Fcc is
recognized with others it isn't. (That is, Fcc is properly set even when
I take the address from the message I'm replying to, but just
for certain addresses (Fcc is set for all addresses in my addressbook)).
My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the
addressbook.
Suggestions, anybody?
tm
P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to
re-adjust the posting by hand.
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Hi all --
Two requests:
1) How do I convert .addressbook format to .mailrc format (berkeley format)?
I have found brk2pine.sh in the source distribution, but I want to go in the
other direction. I need this because I automate mailing and it is easier to
use mailx than pine for this, but I want to use the same mailing aliases as in
my .addressbook.
2) How does one convert .mh aliases ( name1: alias1, alias2, etc.), which
are pretty much the same as sendmail alias format, to .addressbook format?
This is to help a friend who is interested in converting from mh to pine.
I assume that all that is necessary is some awk or sed script, but I am not
the strongest at this.
Email as well as followup requested.
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On 23 Jan 1995 09:45:43 -0800 Joyce Y. Wong (
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| I am looking for pine compiled for a silicon graphics machine
| running irix 4.0
ftp://venezia.rockefeller.edu/pub/penev/IRIX4/pine-3.91
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Knute Snortum (
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: On 23 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote:
: celestial.com *does* (or did) exist; I've been on there, but perhaps like
: you, I haven't been able to connect to them recently, and I *really* want
: to!
I've answered this by private mail a lot recently, so a posting is
definitely in order. ftp.celestial.com recently changed IP aggresses,
and most of the world hasn't found out about it. Someone (probably me)
needs to prod them about DNS propagation.
ftp.celestial.com is now a CNAME (alias) for camco1.celestial.com, which
is IP address 192.136.111.2
Another place to find my binaries package for Pine 3.91 for SCO is
odi.cwc.whecn.edu. They're on the other side of MCI from me, through
Sprintnet to Westnet. MCInet recently had a few serious routing
glitches, so if you've been unable to get to WHECN, you probably can now,
since MCInet has settled down.
Gunther Anderson
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Hello! Many thanks to all the people that have helped with their
suggestions in regards the pine program.
My question...is there a way to have the spell checker in pine
ignore my signature (from the .signature file) as well as some of the
text in letters that I might be replying to every time I use it.
...thanks
...mike
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How can you force PC-Pine 3.91 to save passwd on disk, so the user
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Comes here Mr. Mr Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group
in this article on 31 Jan 1995 10:47:32 -0800:
+ I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail.
+ When I use the (C)ompose command to send a new message, the out-going mail
+ is correctly copied to the corresponding fcc. But if I use the (R)eply
+ command to reply messages FROM these people, the out-going messages will
+ still go to sent-mail, which is not what I want. I have to manually edit
+ the header everytime and I find this really troublesome. Is there a way
+ to get things work (I'm using Pine 3.91)? Or will Pine 3.92(?) checks the
+ addresses of all out-going mails, compare them with the entries in
+ addressbook and copy them to the correct folders? Thank you.
It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' value
to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add <Empty Value>
instead by A to add and hit return immediately.
But by doing this, you will not have a default-fcc for others who haven't
graced you .addressbook. Suit yourself.
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From: Paul Ribeiro <
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To: Info Pine <
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Subject: pc-pine(dos) with packet drivers
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Hi,
we use cutcp here as our main connection program and was wondering
if anyone has used the dos version of pc-pine with vanilla pktdrv
and the config.tel from cutcp? From the testing I've done, pine
can't seem to figure out how to connect to the nameserver to lookup
hostnames.
thanks,
/P
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From: Don Sugarman <
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To:
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Subject: HP Mail Client Configuration
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If someone out there in the Pine forest set up an HP (HP/UX 9.05) as a
mail client to a Sun (4.???) mail host/server, HELP!
I have collected some information from HP on this mixed environment and
downloaded and installed a bunch of patches supposedly prerquisite to
this configuration.
My problem is that the modified sendmail.cf file doesn't look like the
sendmail.cf file on a Sun mail client, so I can't correlate the entries.
Please reply by personal mail to
[email protected], since this
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Don Sugarman, Project Engineer
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If someone out there in the Pine forest set up an HP (HP/UX 9.05) as a
mail client to a Sun (4.???) mail host/server, HELP!
I have collected some information from HP on this mixed environment and
downloaded and installed a bunch of patches supposedly prerquisite to
this configuration.
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> Date: Fri, 27 JAN 1995 15:41:40 -0500
> From: Leigh A Johnson <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Re: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap?
>
>
> On 26 Jan 1995, Joyce Y. Wong wrote:
>
> >
> > how do i set up my pine account so i can read news there?
> > which configuration item is it?
> >
> > i normally read news with trn
> >
> > thanks
> > joyce
>
> from Pine main menu, go into setup, then into configuration. On the
> first page of the config stuff, enter news.gmu.edu where it asks for news
> server (nntp-site). exit all the way out of pine, then go back in and
> look at your folder lists. this will pull in all of the news groups, so
> you'll have to go and unsubscribe to any you've already unsubscribed to
> in tin. Also, they'll be listed in alpha order. I'm still working on
> how to rearrange the order they're listed in ... if anyone knows, feel
> free (please!) to fill me in.
>
Couple of corrections
*enter news.gmu.edu where it asks for news server (nntp-site).
Enter news-server where it asks for news server (nntp-site). or if it
does't work ask you sysadmin for the exact server in you site
Manually arrange your .newsrc in the order you want
and if [X] is placed in setup-config as above
[X] news-read-in-newsrc-order
pine shows the news in your newsrc order instead of alpha order
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I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the
laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that
you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have
one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function
keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what
terminal emulator he uses.
Thanks in advance.
----
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I am interested in the potential of using e-mail between sites in the UK
and Russia for teaching language students. We have contacts in Russia but
the problem is that I don't understand how to transmit Russian
characters as opposed to Roman characters. It is possible to use the
Roman equivalents but to do this one Russian character often requires
about three Roman, in one case six were used. This is also not beginners
stuff..I have spent all week trying to learn how to say hello, so I
should know! I am not much more advanced with my knowledge of e-mail so
any comments would be helpful.
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Try
sort < input-file > sorted-file
"man sort" will give you details on how sort works...
Mike
On 1 Feb 1995, John Dulaney wrote:
> Date: 1 Feb 1995 17:33:04 GMT
> From: John Dulaney <
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> To:
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> Subject: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How?
>
> I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find
> any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one.
> Thanks for all help! Best, John
>
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> - 'C'omposing a message gives the following message:
>
> Continue postponed composition (answering "No" won't erase it)?
>
> Answering 'Y'es does not continue
Edit the configuration file to say:
postponed-folder=""
The accompanying notes state that postponing a composition is not
supported. This seems to be not just a consequence that the command
(CTRL/O) on VAX/VMS already does something different; there is an
alternative way to issue the command (ESC ESC O) but this does not
seem to work either (unless someone knows better).
Some of your other problems may be associated with choosing to configure
inbox-path=NEWMAIL. I received advice from someone else in email saying
this is not a good choice, as things are today: it is better to leave
it as INBOX and then go explicitly to NEWMAIL.
I agree it would be nice if this worked more in accordance with VMS
MAIL procedures, but possibly it's not so simple to implement. What
would I know, I'm only trying to use this package, not mend it ;-)
I'll be interested in the answer to your other problems (!)
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>I have Pine running on a VMS system. Works fine as long as you have
>an existing MAIL.MAI file. If you are a new VMS user who has does not have
>a MAIL.MAI file and then invokes PINE,...., craaassssshhh. It dumps its
>stack because no MAIL.MAI file is found.
This used to happen with another 3rd party mail implementation we used.
We fixed it by sending a mail to every new user, as they were registered,
using of course VMS "MAIL". Sometimes the stupid solutions are the
best!
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: Broddi Reyr Hansen (
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: : How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text,
: : say few screen fills and then del it!!!
: Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press
: Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the
: end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text.
This works fine if I use pine directly on a Sun workstation (in an xterm
window) or if I telnet to the Sun from a PC clone running various PC
communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a
Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal,
when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6".
That's right, no "[ Mark Set ]". I've also seen this with some different
Mac comm programs when dialing in with a modem and received the same
result.
My guess is this is a problem with terminal emulation and really isn't
Pine's fault, but I am curious if anyone has seen this and has a
work-around?
I would appreciate any help you can send me!
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> how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there
> knows? meb
>
Well, for Chinese text I run pine in cxterm and then just enter
the text as a would in a text editor such as celvis (a vi clone with
2-Byte support). Works fine....except there is no way to set the charset
to something standard....since there isn't a standard for Chinese in
MIME. (Since the last time I checked.)
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950131161053.13826K-100000@hostsw7>,
Steven Feinholz <
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>I have set the signature-at-bottom in my Configuration Setup and
>have experienced the following:
>
>1) When Replying to an email message while including the original
> text, the signature file gets appended to the end of the
> email.
>
>2) When Forwarding an email to another destination, the signature
> file gets placed BEFORE the included text, instead of at the
> bottom of the entire email message.
>
>Is this the normal operation of "signature-at-bottom" or is this
>a bug?
I would say it is. When you are replying to e-mail, the quoted stuff
is considered to be part of your message, and hence the bottom of the
message is at the end of the quoted text. However, when you are
forwarding stuff, your message is what you add to clarify things, and
usually implies that you are not making changes to the message being
forwarded, so your message ends before the included text.
- frank
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On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Michael C. Newell wrote:
> Try
> sort < input-file > sorted-file
>
> "man sort" will give you details on how sort works...
> Mike
--------------------
Mike, thanks. I also read your note in the newsgroup and have
thoroughly read the man sort file but I still have a problem.
I know you're prob. very busy but if you know where I can go?
The prob. is that I have first lines followed by indented lines.
They are CD-ROM titles with a few lines of descriptions and price.
Prob. is I only want the first line of each little paragraph
sorted by dictionary, not every line. That would put the whole thing into
a mess and I absolutely need the lines of description.
Any hope?
Much thanks and if you're too busy no problem.
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>
[email protected] wrote:
> : Broddi Reyr Hansen (
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> : : How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text,
> : : say few screen fills and then del it!!!
> : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press
> : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the
> : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text.
[snip]
> communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a
> Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal,
> when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6".
[snip]
> --
> David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL
>
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I had the same problem at one time. However with a little creative trial
and error, I found the sollution for it. Hold the SHIFT key down in that
sequence (i.e. CTRL-SHIFT-^). That way it looks at the "^" instead of "6".
Good luck.
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In <Pine.SOL.3.91.950201052833.26804A-100000@mail>
[email protected] (Chip Old) writes:
>What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should
>appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages
>in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+",
>even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming
According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message
received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you
an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit
(Reply) you'll get the "+".
Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header.
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On Wed, 25 Jan 1995, Jim Gerland wrote:
> Date: Wed, 25 JAN 1995 13:25:44 GMT
> From: Jim Gerland <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Does Pine 3.91 have News Authentication?
>
>
> If not, is there plans to add it?
> Thanks,
>
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Comes here Mr. AJDevoir with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this
article on 2 Feb 1995 01:06:38 GMT:
+ > How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text,
+ > say few screen fills and then del it!!!
+ > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press
+ > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard).
+ I found the sollution for it. Hold the SHIFT key down in that
+ sequence (i.e. CTRL-SHIFT-^). That way it looks at the "^" instead of "6".
When all else fails, esc esc ^ (twice escape key, shift6) works for me, even for
^c, esc esc c works.
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How do I go about filtering incoming mail? I'd like to have
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box (based on what's in the subject). This *IS* possible,
correct?
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Is it possible to add an email address to a mailing list in
pine? I know you can "^T"ake the address while reading a
message, but I'd like to "^T"ake the address and add it to
a mailing list. Can it be done? It's a pain to have to
manually add people to mailing lists...
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->This is a repost. I did not get any answers. Hope it isnt too much to=20
->ask. Will appreciate any help for a newcomer (2=AB months on the net).
->Thank you.
->
->On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Ray McAllister wrote:
->
->> =09Question 1, Please help! How can I access or see what is in my "Home=
->=20
->> Directory"? I cannot seem to find it anywhere on either hard drive, to se=
->e
->> what is in it; to use it, or to delete it. Thanks a million.
->> =09Question 2, Where or how can I get a manual for Pine?
->> =09Question 3, When I go into rz to bring a pre-existing file into=20
->> my home directory I sometimes end up with the Procom 2 screen telling me=
->=20
->> Port in use, yet I have hung up. How can I get rid of Port in use and=20
->> continue with Procom and pine without closing everything back to C:?
->> =09Ray McAllister
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote:
> In <Pine.SOL.3.91.950201052833.26804A-100000@mail>
[email protected] (Chip Old) writes:
>
> >What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should
> >appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages
> >in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+",
> >even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming
>
> According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message
> received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you
> an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit
> (Reply) you'll get the "+".
>
> Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header.
Sorry, I believe you are mistaken.
If you look in the help for the Index screen you will see...
o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent
directly to your account, your copy is not part of a cc: or a
mailing list.
What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left
Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account
name. If they match then you will get the "+".
Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system
call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account
on hobbes. If you send email to
[email protected] it will
show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to
[email protected] I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that
it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains.
Ed
Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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We recently went to Pine 3.91 and I just sent my first Bounce message to
the correct address and of course not knowing what will appear at the
other party's screen---in reference to the headers with the name of the
misdirected address etc. (about 20-30 lines minimum), can someone tell me
if "Bounce" will strip all the extraneous lines off before it gets to the
other party; (Don't tell me to ask the other party the next day!) And it
will just show as a regular email message and hopefully no indication that
it had to be resent?
TIA,
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On 2 Feb 1995, Tom Cole wrote:
> We recently went to Pine 3.91 and I just sent my first Bounce message to
> the correct address and of course not knowing what will appear at the
> other party's screen---in reference to the headers with the name of the
> misdirected address etc. (about 20-30 lines minimum), can someone tell me
> if "Bounce" will strip all the extraneous lines off before it gets to the
> other party; (Don't tell me to ask the other party the next day!) And it
> will just show as a regular email message and hopefully no indication that
> it had to be resent?
Did you ever think about bouncing a message to yourself to see
what headers may or may not be added???
Pine adds the headers:
Resent-Date:
Resent-From:
Resent-To:
Resent-Message-Id:
So, there is an indication that it was "resent".
Ed
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> Where can I find a copy of Procmail ?
> <<< Caution Signature File Under Construction >>>
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Comes here Mr. Michael A. Naud with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group
in this article on 1 Feb 1995 10:43:18 -0800:
+ I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the
+ laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that
+ you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have
+ one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function
+ keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what
+ terminal emulator he uses.
Use the man page on 'stty' on your system for exact syntax for remapping
some other(any other) key in lieu of control key. Hope this helps.
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Comes here Mr. the mole with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this
article on Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800:
+ >> I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail.
+ >
+ > It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail'
+ > value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add
+ > <Empty Value> instead by A to add and hit return immediately.
+ Nope. That's not it. I have the same problem. With some addresse Fcc is
+ My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the
+ addressbook.
Unless my Pine is slightly different here, it works for me.
What does your fcc-name-rule point to? by-recipient ? by-default ?
+ P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to
+ re-adjust the posting by hand.
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I am looking for pine source appropriate to or compiled for a DEC Alpha running OSF.
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>
> I can "export" and "append" many messages (one at a time) to a single file.
>
> What I want to do is "export" several messages all at once, to a single file.
> A 'block' of messages, if you will.
>
> I hope that this isn't embarrassingly simple.
>
Sorry, it is!
Select the ones you need to export
(eg ; n 1,5,17 - but there are other ways depending on the rules for
selection)
then type
A E
and they will all be exported together.
> thanking you,
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>
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I can't figure out how pico's justification works.
When quoting people I often need to enter blank lines between
or within paragraphs but hitting the return key often causes
pico to justify the paragraphs.
This might have something to do with the terminal emulation that
I'm using: NCSA Telnet for Mac.
Is there anyway I can prevent pico from "randomly" interpreting my
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One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both
annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to
Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to
reply anywhere else.
I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am
asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply".
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> Is there any way to build pine so that it doesn't send "NOOP" out the nntp
> port?
No, there isn't.
The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this?
Do you or your users enjoy the prospect of having connections dropped due
to a timeout? Remember, Pine caches much more thoroughly than most NNTP
clients, so it is perfectly possible for a very active Pine user to have
a seemingly "idle" NNTP session.
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Bill Filtz (bfiltz@grits) wrote:
: Anyone having success with dialing into an internet site using a Mac 7100
: and a hayes compatible modem to emulate the VT100/102 keyboard and use
: Pine? I've tried it with the ClarisWorks comm package and the Mac Comm
: Center software that came with the modem.
: I have ^G, ^C, ^X, and ^T working. The cursor pad, delete, and some
: others don't. Also, the screen doesn't always clear, particularly when going
: from the menu to the inbox folder index.
I'm dialing in from a 6100 using ZTerm and it works beautifully. All
commands work. The cursor pad is limited to up-cursor and down-cursor,
but that's just because Pine doesn't recognize left and right to do
anything. Try Zterm with ANSI or VT-10x emulation.
Josh
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"Why do I want to do this?"
Our INN 1.4 news server software doesn't *have* a NOOP command!
This means that they get logged and reported the following day by e-mail
as "host xxx used invalid command yyy".
Yes, I know the solution is to "fix INN to have a NOOP command"! :-)
Mike Brudenell
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On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Mark Crispin wrote:
> On 31 Jan 1995, Jack Bryans wrote:
> > Is there any way to build pine so that it doesn't send "NOOP" out the nntp
> > port?
>
> No, there isn't.
>
> The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this?
>
> Do you or your users enjoy the prospect of having connections dropped due
> to a timeout? Remember, Pine caches much more thoroughly than most NNTP
> clients, so it is perfectly possible for a very active Pine user to have
> a seemingly "idle" NNTP session.
>
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote:
> "Why do I want to do this?"
> Our INN 1.4 news server software doesn't *have* a NOOP command!
> This means that they get logged and reported the following day by e-mail
> as "host xxx used invalid command yyy".
> Yes, I know the solution is to "fix INN to have a NOOP command"! :-)
According to the text of the file, I have done this: I don't remeber doing
it, but still ... . Anyway the file .../nnrpd/nnrpd.c now has:
...
{ "next", CMDnextlast, FALSE, 1, 1,
NULL },
/* BJC 941109A: added the following line */
{ "noop", CMD_unimp, FALSE, 1, CMDany,
NULL },
{ "post", CMDpost, TRUE, 1, 1,
NULL },
...
It's at about line 100 of the file. It would appear from the lack of
other 941109A comments that that's the only change, but I'm not that certain.
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message
> > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you
>
> Sorry, I believe you are mistaken.
>
> o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent
You are quite correct. I haven't read the documentation since I installed
the first version of PINE here. I have no idea where I came up with this.
Pardon my waste of bandwidth.
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> Comes here Mr. the mole with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group
> in this article on Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800:
> + [... description of irregular behavior of fcc and reply ...]
> + My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the
> + addressbook.
>
> Unless my Pine is slightly different here, it works for me.
>
> What does your fcc-name-rule point to? by-recipient ? by-default ?
Thanks for the hint, I set it to 'by-recipient' and now when I reply to
a message sent by somebody who also happens to be in addressbook the
proper fcc folder is set. But now, of course, I won't get sent-mail as a
default fcc folder for people who aren't in my addressbook, I get their
username as default fcc....
>
> + P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to
> + re-adjust the posting by hand.
>
> Okay.
Still unquoteable. (To much space at the left margin.)
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Good morning,
I am a newcomer in pine-info. I looked at the FAQ but did not find any
answer to my problem.
How can I configurate PINE so that my adress is
[email protected] and not duhaimj%
[email protected].
After registering to certain mailing list I got the following when I use
the mailing:
You are not authorized to mail to list GOPHER-L from
your
duhaimj%
[email protected] account. You might be authorized to
post
to the list from another of your accounts or under a slightly
different
....
Thank in advance for your help
Johanne Duhaime
ircm
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Hi,
There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget
about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine
for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if I had more
time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for
Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ?
Any suggestion is welcome
Please report in comp.mail.pine too !
Guy
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Barry Landy (
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: One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both
: annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to
: Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to
: reply anywhere else.
: I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am
: asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply".
Replys are normally sent to the 'From' address, unless there is a
different 'Reply To' in the incoming message., in which case you are
given the option of either replying to the 'Reply To' or to the 'From'
(which is usually the author).
The default answer 'Y' (yes) at the prompt, sends to the 'Reply To'
address. Unless your setup works different from mine, you don't get
asked that option unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the
incomming, so the situation only occurs maybe 5 or 10% of the time.
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From: Ted Stern <
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These questions *weren't* in the FAQ!
Does anyone have any nice sed, awk or perl scripts to convert
addressbook format *TO* Berkeley .mailrc alias format? This is so my
automated mailing can use my pine addresses.
Also, does anyone have scripts for converting mh mailing aliases to pine
addressbook format?
I asked this on just the newsgroup but got no reply.
TIA,
-- Ted
============================================================================
Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20
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From: "Steven D. Majewski" <
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On 2 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote:
> There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget
> about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine
> for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if
I had more
> time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for
> Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ?
>
> Any suggestion is welcome
> Please report in comp.mail.pine too !
> Guy
>
Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac,
that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or
Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty
interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software )
If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface
around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ?
( I have a copy of a mostly working socket interface to MacTCP that I
found at NCSA. For other reasons, for the project for which I hunted
that down, I ended up using the native MacTCP API. I still have an
object library of it, but when I last tried to recompile it with the
latest MPW, it didn't compile, and I didn't have time to look for
the problem, and again a reason not to use the socket interface showed
itself, so I didn't look at it again. )
[ Query cross posted to comp.sys.mac.programmer & comp.sys.mac.comm ]
---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) <
[email protected]> |---
---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |---
---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |---
---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |---
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I've had the same problem using pine 3.91 over a dial-up. A couple of
times pine dumped me clear out to the which host? prompt on the Michnet
lines, and even trashed the Michnet connection. I set the flag to "slow
modem" even though I have a 14.4, and have not had a lot of problems
since. Sometimes still, though, 3.91 "goes to sleep" during a compose
session, and I just go and make a cup of coffee. It usually wakes up in
2-3 minutes. 3.91 is so much nicer than 3.89 that I put up with this.
Maybe it's not in pine at all, but in pico?
Jace
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I just downloaded pine3.91. I am on SCO 3.2.4.2. I can't seem to fine
netdb.h.
Any suggestions?
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I have read the help info for folders and news folders, but was wondering
if anyone has accomplished the following:
I can change one of my remote news folders to read
UseNet_Number_1 *{another.computer/nntp}[local.*]
and I get only the "local.*" groups. That part works. Here is my
question- how do I put 2 items in the [], say local.* and morelocal.* ?
I tried UseNet_Number_1 *{another.computer/nntp}[local.*, morelocal.*]
but it thinks the comma separates another entry. I tried just a space and
got another error. Is this possible?
I also haven't figured out that LINES environmental variable question (it
affects pine but pico defaults back to 24 lines) if anyone has that answer.
laters.....
*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*
*: Joe Ducharme
[email protected] :*
*: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :*
*: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :*
*: <<
http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :*
*: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :*
*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*
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Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus
Date: 2 Feb 1995 21:20:18 GMT
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Michael A. Naud (
[email protected]) wrote:
> I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the
> laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that
> you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have
> one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function
> keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what
> terminal emulator he uses.
For the MacTerminal keyboard (whatever that is), the ` (accent grave) sends
an escape. Maybe two of those?
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Bruce C. Law v. (805) 639-0051
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Easier investing research -- online.
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>Ralf Matthies (
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>: On 19 Jan 1995, Richard Hsiung wrote:
>: > I got a mail from someone with an attachment (supposedly), well, in the
>: > message, it tells me I need BinHex 4.0 to convert it?! Where do I find
>: > BinHex and how do I get this attachment back into file form?
>: you will find BinHex on the following aFTP servers:
>: ftp.demon.co.uk /simtel20/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip
>: micros.hensa.ac.uk /mirrors/simtel/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip
>: PS: Ask me, if you have more questions... ;-)
What does Binhex do and why is it needed? I have the same problem
when sending an attached file (simple text file) from a PC (with
eudora) to my UNIX workstation (reading with pine). If I use pine
to send and read the attached file (as a test), there is no problem.
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Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How?
Date: 2 Feb 1995 12:49:27 -0600
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In article <
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JDulaney <
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> Prob. is I only want the first line of each little paragraph
>sorted by dictionary, not every line. That would put the whole thing into
>a mess and I absolutely need the lines of description.
> Any hope?
> Much thanks and if you're too busy no problem.
> Best, John
Just sorting is not going to hack it. Unix utilities such as awk or the
publicly available perl should handle the task. In fact, one of the
examples in the original awk book covered this.
Regards,
Dennis
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Hello... I'm trying to select a bunch of my old articles from the news
section of pine and mark them for deletion by trying the keystrokes ;aad
As soon as I press the ; key, I get a message that the key is not
supported on the screen (I'm at the index of the articles for that group.)
Any ideas?
Cheers!
Roby
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Comes here Mr. Vic Menayang with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in
this article on 2 Feb 1995 07:44:43 -0600:
+ I can't figure out how pico's justification works.
+ When quoting people I often need to enter blank lines between
+ or within paragraphs but hitting the return key often causes
+ pico to justify the paragraphs.
+ This might have something to do with the terminal emulation that
+ I'm using: NCSA Telnet for Mac.
+ Is there anyway I can prevent pico from "randomly" interpreting my
+ return key as Ctrl-J. Or, is there anyway to disable pico's
+ justification altogether?
Looks like the keymappings/settings aren't set right on your mac. I use
NCSA Telnet/Mac 2.6, and never had this problem. Go under Setup Keys
and see if you can re-configure your keymappings.
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Hello,
OS: aix3.2.5
PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91
When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long
imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make
it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our
environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this
happens?
Thanks,
Farid Hamjavar
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In article <
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> Reading this week's (or last, I'm not sure) _Communications Week_
> magazine, I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw an article
> on IMAP. Pretty succinct in content.
>
> --Paul
Well, that's IMAP4, not IMAP2 (or bis or +). The most important
question is when IMAP4 servers and clients will be available!
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Comes here Mr. Barry Landy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in
this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:53:10 +0000:
+ A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default
+ savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to
+ default-folder). I agree that this would be useful.
Either I'm missing the point or something...isin't there a default-folder
already set if you choose that option, the folder being correctly named
saved-messages ?
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Hi.....
I'm putting this on pine-info since the original question arose
on this list. I tried to respond directly to Marc....but the mail
bounced :-(
----- The following addresses had delivery problems -----
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.. while talking to peseta.ucdavis.edu.:
>>> RCPT To:<
[email protected]>
<<< 550 <
[email protected]>... User unknown
550
[email protected]... User unknown
Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3
FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C
---------- Forwarded message ----------
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From: Ed Greshko <
[email protected]>
To: Marc Blanchard <
[email protected]>
Subject: Re: your mail
On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote:
> thanks for the info. unfortunately I need to be taken by the hand. the
> local people here don't know what a cxterm or a vi clone is. maybe you
> can tell me. thanks awfully. meb
OK....
cxterm is "Chinese Xterm". It supplies an input method to
accomodate the various input methods used by the Chinese. You see,
each Chinese character is 2-Byte...and there are many thousand Chinese
characters. To enter one Chinese character may require 3 or 4 keystrokes
depending on the input method used. I think cxterm provides for 6 input
methods. Three for Hanzi (Beijing) and three for BIG5 (Taiwan). It is
also extensible to allow you to add on additional input methods. In addition
you can type in the hex values for characters.
As for a vi clone....it is simply a program that has all of the
same functions of vi except that it is modified to handle 2-Byte characters
and 8-bit inputs properly.
Let me know if you have additional questions....
Ed
Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
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Dyck NH <
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>Where can I find a copy of Procmail ?
The latest version is v3.10. So you might try using archie to find
something nearby.
In case that doesn't work:
ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz
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I would like to know if PINE 3.91 has the capability to request a return
receipt from the person that the message is addressed to. It would be
nice to receive some sort of acknowledgement that your message did reach
its destination. If anybody knows of how we would be able to do this,
please inform. Thank you.
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From: Ian Russell Ollmann <iano@wong>
Subject: Bug (ID ZH8IY): Random Chance or Deus ex Machina?
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:16:27 -0800
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Here's a funny one. I pressed down all three buttons on my mouse at the same
time while the pointer was on the pine window (sgi 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5, Pine
3.91) and the compose-bug-report function came up. It seems to be
reproducible. Since the bug seems to want to report itself, I thought I'd
oblige and send it along. I don't see this as a pressing problem (unless
taken literally, in which case it is - sorry for the pun), but I just thought
you should know...
:-)
Ian Ollmann
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========== struct pine * ==========
ui: login = iano, full = Ian Russell Ollmann
home = /home/iano
home_dir= /home/iano
hostname= wong
localdom= wong
userdom= NULL
maildom= wong
cur_cntxt= mail/[]
cur_fldr= INBOX
actual mbox= /nfs/wong/usr/mail/iano
msgmap: tot=1, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival
inbox is mail_stream
term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq4, size=65x80, speed=normal
======= Current_val options set =======
personal-name : Ian Russell Ollmann
user-id : iano
nntp-server : 137.131.120.6
inbox-path : /nfs/wong/usr/mail/iano
folder-collections : mail/[]
news-collections : News *{137.131.120.6/nntp}[]
default-fcc : /home/iano/mail/sent-mail-Feb95
postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
mail-directory : mail
read-message-folder : /home/iano/mail/Feb95
signature-file : .signature
address-book : .addressbook
feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders
: enable-aggregate-command-set
: enable-bounce-cmd
: enable-full-header-cmd
: enable-jump-shortcut
: enable-mail-check-cue
: enable-unix-pipe-cmd
: preserve-start-stop-characters
initial-keystroke-li : i
customized-hdrs : Reply-To
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fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
sort-key : arrival
addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
image-viewer : xv
use-only-domain-name : scripps.edu
printer : lpr -Pnec
standard-printer : lpr
last-time-prune-ques : 96.8
last-version-used : 3.91
bugs-fullname : Pine Developers
bugs-address :
[email protected]
elm-style-save : no
header-in-reply : no
feature-level : sapling
old-style-reply : no
save-by-sender : no
======= Command_line_val options set =======
======= User_val options set (/home/iano/.pinerc) =======
personal-name : Ian Russell Ollmann
nntp-server : 137.131.120.6
inbox-path : $MAIL
folder-collections : mail/[]
news-collections : News *{137.131.120.6/nntp}[]
default-fcc : ~/mail/sent-mail-$MONYR
read-message-folder : ~/mail/$MONYR
feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders
: enable-aggregate-command-set
: enable-bounce-cmd
: enable-full-header-cmd
: enable-jump-shortcut
: enable-mail-check-cue
: enable-unix-pipe-cmd
: preserve-start-stop-characters
initial-keystroke-li : i
customized-hdrs : Reply-To
image-viewer : xv
use-only-domain-name : scripps.edu
printer : lpr -Pnec
last-time-prune-ques : 96.8
last-version-used : 3.91
======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) =======
inbox-path : inbox
default-fcc : sent-mail
postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
mail-directory : mail
signature-file : .signature
address-book : .addressbook
saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
sort-key : arrival
addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
use-only-domain-name : no
printer : attached-to-ansi
standard-printer : lpr
bugs-fullname : Pine Developers
bugs-address :
[email protected]
elm-style-save : no
header-in-reply : no
feature-level : sapling
old-style-reply : no
save-by-sender : no
======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) =======
========== Feature settings ==========
no-assume-slow-link
no-auto-move-read-msgs
no-auto-open-next-unread
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: A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default
: savemail (ie the one you get if you have the
: saved-msg-name-rule set to default-folder).
: I agree that this would be useful.
: Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development,
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote:
> Here's a funny one. I pressed down all three buttons on my mouse at the same
> time while the pointer was on the pine window (sgi 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5, Pine
> 3.91) and the compose-bug-report function came up. It seems to be
> reproducible. Since the bug seems to want to report itself, I thought I'd
> oblige and send it along. I don't see this as a pressing problem (unless
> taken literally, in which case it is - sorry for the pun), but I just thought
> you should know...
Not so strange....and not a bug.
What screen comes up would depend on where you are in pine and
what is in the paste buffer for your mouse. Just for fun, after reading
you message I moved my mouse into the pine window (main menu) and depressed
all three buttons. I ended up in a compose session with an address from
my address book in the To: field. Why? Well, my mouse paste buffer
contained thac. In the main menu the "t" and the "h" are undefined.
So, the "a", "c" key strokes were taken......
So, no mystery....and no bug.
Ed
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I earlier wrote:
: >BTW - I picked up on the OS/2 groups that a port of pico is
: >available ftp, which I'm using right now to write this message.
: >It works pretty well. I'm planning on using it for accessing
: >UUCP news through my BBS. Now, I just have to work ou
John McGing (
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: Is this on hobbes? Where?
No, it is available from abrown.student.harvard.edu. It is "beta,"
but I haven't run into any serious problems yet. In fact, the only
problem I had was trying to reply to a post one time where the
poster did not put any <CR>'s in his post at all.
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I am running on a CDC Mips box using EP/IX by CDC. Is this a version of
Pico and Pine that I can run? I have tried to fin one and can't, not even
on cac.washgton.edu. Any help would be appreciated. Please send email
to
[email protected]. Thanks
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> The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this?
Well, getting along w/the world as we find it includes placating bnews,
cnews, & INN, at the least. INN has never recognized NOOP & logs every one
of them. While we're ok for now for spool space, we're hurting for / space,
which, for us, includes /usr/local/news & all its logs. A days supply of
NOOPs takes over 10K of log space.
Sure, it can be argued that INN should be changed to accommodate every new
newsreading client that comes along. I'd rather have all s'ware that speaks
or adds nntp get along w/INN as it is.
INN's timeouts are generous. W/all the PC & mac rewsreaders on our net, we
see a few timeouts logged. But they are trivially minor compared to the
NOOP logging.
Jack
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But what about when you want to reply to a mail from a mailing
list but reply only to the sender (not to the entire list)?...
___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector!
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Barry Landy wrote:
> One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both
> annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to
> Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to
> reply anywhere else.
> I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am
> asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply".
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On 2 Feb 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote:
> Date: 2 FEB 1995 12:07:09 -0800
> From: Steven D. Majewski <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ]
>
> On 2 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote:
>
> > There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget
> > about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine
> > for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if
> I had more
> > time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for
> > Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ?
> >
Actually, there are several Mac IMAP clients. Here is an excerpt from the
list in
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Client MIME? Source/Vendor Status
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
MACINTOSH
ECSMail Mac Yes ISA Corp. 2.1 Alpha (I think 3.x is in Beta)
Mail Drop Yes Baylor U. Beta
MacMS No Stanford U. Obsolete
Mailstrom 1.05 No Stanford U. Released, but buggy on some Macs
Mailstrom 2.0x Yes Adam Treister In development
POPmail No UMinn Uses POP paradigm; deletes mail
Siren Mail Yes Siren Software Planned product
TWG Pathways No Wollongong Released
Zmail Yes Zcode IMAP support Planned
>
> Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac,
> that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or
> Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty
> interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software )
>
One of the Pine Team members did a little preliminary look at doing a Mac
port and was basing it on Mint. But he dropped that in favor of a MachTen
port, which is complete and in Pine 3.91.
> If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface
> around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ?
>
Yes, c-client works on the Mac.
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How about having the TAB-completion on the ^R (include-file) option? :-)
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Can anyone help me with procmail? I'm about to give up on it. I thought I
had the correct .forward file, but apparently not. Everything else seems
to work ok. If I do:
procmail < test.msg
where test.msg is a message I sent myself containing all of the proper
headers and everything, procmail works perfectly. But when I send it to
myself using Pine, one of two things happens. Either the mail never
arrives or it does not get sorted like it is supposed to. I'm pretty sure
I just need the correct .forward file for SunOS. I have read the SunOS
man file. It says:
For instance, to invoke the vacation program, user js
creates a ~/.forward file that contains the line:
\js, "|/usr/ucb/vacation js"
so that one copy of the message is sent to the user, and
another is piped into the vacation program.
I have tried:
"|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed"
as a way of passing it on to the procmail program, but it just goes
straight to my normal mailbox. I have the permissions on the .forward
file set world readable. Any ideas?
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A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default
savemail (ie the one you get if you have the
saved-msg-name-rule set to default-folder).
I agree that this would be useful.
=======================================================================
Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development,
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On 3 Feb 1995, Tracy R. Reed wrote:
> I have tried:
>
> "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed"
>
> as a way of passing it on to the procmail program, but it just goes
> straight to my normal mailbox. I have the permissions on the .forward
> file set world readable. Any ideas?
Try:
"|exec /home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail -Y #treed"
Actually, I think your biggest problem is the treed v.s. #treed.
Without the # procmail tries to treat treed as an argument.
Ed
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how do i set up my pine account so i can read news there?
which configuration item is it?
i normally read news with trn
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Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 18:44:13 -0800
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On 2 Feb 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote:
> Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac,
> that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or
> Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty
> interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software )
A fellow by the name of Chris Newman at CMU gave me a package called
NiftyTerm which essentially is a VT100 emulator + Telnet application. My
thinking about a Mac Pine (PineApple?) would be to excise the Telnet
code, and graft c-client, Pine, and Pico in its place.
> If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface
> around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ?
c-client is ported to the Mac, and mtest runs just fine. I have a nice
MacTCP interface for c-client that I wrote myself that (among other
things) runs a mini event loop so even though it's blocked on TCP I/O you
can still manipulate windows, switch to other apps, abort the current app,
etc. Unlike Mailstrom's TCP code, my code works.
I, like many others, have been very disappointed with Mailstrom, and
expelled it from my Mac's hard disk some time ago. Mail Drop, on the
other hand, works quiet well, if a bare-bones IMAP client is alright. I
have higher hopes of seeing Mail Drop get dolled up than I have of seeing
a usable Mailstrom.
The main thing you would need to do in c-client on the Mac is have some
sort of monitor/throttle on memory use so c-client can cache, but purge
the cache (via mail_gc() calls) as necessary when memory becomes low.
This idea was originally going to be used in PC-Pine, but memory is so
tight in the 640K limit that we ended up not caching at all. On the Mac,
I'd give it a meg or two of free memory to play around in.
I've thought of writing my own native GUI interface for the Mac, but I
have plenty of other things to do. What's more, my GUIs tend to reflect
the fact that I'm an engineer, not an artist -- hyper-functional, but not
necessarily pretty, with button panels from hell.
I've thought of writing one anyway, but it'd probably be in VisualWorks,
so it'd not be very helpful for the general Mac community.
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On 2 Feb 1995, Barry Cornelius wrote:
> According to the text of the file, I have done this: I don't remeber doing
> it, but still ... . Anyway the file .../nnrpd/nnrpd.c now has:
> ...
> { "next", CMDnextlast, FALSE, 1, 1,
> NULL },
> /* BJC 941109A: added the following line */
> { "noop", CMD_unimp, FALSE, 1, CMDany,
> NULL },
> { "post", CMDpost, TRUE, 1, 1,
> NULL },
> ...
What a great idea! Every Internet protocol should have a NOOP command.
Seriously, this is a bug in the NNTP protocol.
We *did* have timeout problems before this NOOP pinging was put in. I
think that I used to have a HELP command, and I got complaints that the
entire help transcript was being logged (so the NOOP was an improvement).
As far as servers which obsessively log commands sent to them, and the
consequent loss of disk space -- are you aware that you have given every
cracker on the Internet instructions of how to hit you with a denial of
service attack?
It's important that any logging which you have installed is careful not to
allow randoms to fill up your disk. In particular, for non-authenticated
connections, you should be *very* restricted in what events you log. If
you log authentication failures, you need to have a throttle in order to
limit the number of such events that can happen in a particular interval.
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Comes here Mr. Root Guy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this
article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:09:26 -0700:
+ Hello... I'm trying to select a bunch of my old articles from the news
+ section of pine and mark them for deletion by trying the keystrokes ;aad
+ As soon as I press the ; key, I get a message that the key is not
+ supported on the screen (I'm at the index of the articles for that group.)
+ Any ideas?
Perhaps by setting the enable-aggregate-command-set option in the Setup/Config
screen would resolve this.
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Comes here Mr. Lee Kadin with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this
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+ I just downloaded pine3.91. I am on SCO 3.2.4.2. I can't seem to fine
+ netdb.h. Any suggestions?
Pine3.91 has been already ported to SCO Unix. Here's the URL:
ftp://camco1.celestial.com/pub/sco-ports/unix/
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Mark,
I usually find your response to be reasonable and well thought out. In
this case I am in doubt. It seems to me that there are two issues and I
am not clear about what you are saying about them.
The first is a protocol issue. Nntp has a well defined protocol
specified in an RFC. To complicate this, there are proposed extensions
and refinements which are not yet in the form of an RFC. But Rich Salz
is one of the folks deeply involved in this revision. So the question is
whether the NOOP is a part of the protocol (or is likely to be in the
extensions). If the answer is no then Pine should not generate the NOOPs.
This is as broader issue than just nntp. In other areas the pine crew
make quite a point of following the standards and reject lots of
suggestions on that basis. In this I believe they are correct.
The second issue is whether client designers know in the abstract what
timeout behaviour should be better than the folks who are running the
servers. I tend to think that the server operators know better in the
specific cases and should adjust the timeouts if there are serious problems.
/dan
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Is there a way to generate a smaller pine binary? Mine is about
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Was : Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ]
> Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac,
> that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or
> Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty
> interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software )
Dunno ! Has anyone informations on that ?
>
> If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface
> around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ?
It's in the pine 3.91 package, under the c-client directory, here's is
some piece of it :
/*
* Program: Operating-system dependent routines -- Macintosh version
*
* Author: Mark Crispin
* 6158 Lariat Loop NE
* Bainbridge Island, WA 98110-2098
* Internet:
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*
* Date: 26 January 1992
* Last Edited: 14 September 1994
*
* Copyright 1994 by Mark Crispin
*
*/
/* This is a totally new operating-system dependent module for the Macintosh,
* written using THINK C on my Mac PowerBook-100 in my free time.
* Unlike earlier efforts, this version requires no external TCP library. It
* also takes advantage of the Map panel in System 7 for the timezone.
*/
Guy
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I am using the Unix Pine 3.89 as the shell for dial in users. My hope is
that users can only get/send email or netnews. I like Pine a lot, it is
really good for new users (all we have here in Anguilla). I have some
questions.
First, about security. I don't want users to be able to get out of Pine.
Are there any recommended settings to tighten up security? How tight can
it get? I think I don't want them to be able to read or write files on
the Unix machine except for their folders.
I noticed the "-r" restricted flag. This is kind of what I am after, but
I want the users to still have folders and be able to send mail. I may
just modify that a bit.
Second, is there a PC-Pine for PCs that dial into a Unix system? I have not
used the PC-Pine, but it looks like it is for PCs on a network. Do I have
to use SLIP or UUPC on all the PCs? Is there other software that runs on
PCs so users can write and read mail offline so they don't need to stay
connected to my machine so long? (Cable and Wireless is very slow about
getting me more phone lines - nearly 3 months now.)
Thanks,
-- Vince
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Greetings,
Can I get instructions for decompressing, compiling, and installing
pine on a Pyramid OSx system? I realise this may be a tall order, but
I'm starting from scratch here, and just trying to get a usable mail
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On 24 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote:
> Ok ... I finally got pine, and I've been playing around with it, and I
> suddenly realize that the cursor keys on our Wyse60 terminals are not
> working inside Pine ...
>
> It looks like the cursor keys send ^K, ^J, ^H, and ^L, which Pine uses
> for other purposes. Is there a way to remap these keys inside Pine, or
> do I initialize the terminal to a different type going in???
>
> Anybody ever run into this?
Oh yes. Our solution (which we haven't implemented yet) is to make the
Wyse60's ansi. On our system you would set the TERM variable to
wyse60ak and do a tset. It doesn't fix everything (PgUp and PgDn don't
work for instance) but it's a start.
Be careful! If your other packages are expecting non-ansi keyboards
you'll need to undo what you did above. Also, if you flip from session
to session, you may wind up with the wrong keyboard in the wrong program.
Some day we will make all our programs talk ansi, but for now I just use
the control keys. Other people have mini-scripts that take them into and
out of ansi as they go in and out of pine, but watch out for task switching!
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Hi,
I have read the fact sheet by Richard Shima at Cleveland Freenet and
gather that it is not easy to make French accents print out. However has
anyone made them print in unix-aix-pine(Korn shell). I have posted
several messages to francophones and have received a suggestion to try to
get some free Eudora software. Suggestions from anyone working on the
same type of system are most welcome. We use character based
workstations, not windows at the moment.
Appended is a message containing other info someone sent me for c shell.
Could this be made to work in k shell and if so how?
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|\^/| Diane Bradley -
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\ / 100 West 49th Avenue
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Comme toi je viens de me battre avec ma station pour lui faire
afficher les accents. Je viens de gagner la bataille. Sur un
Sun en Solaris 2 j'ai mis
setenv LANG fr
setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1
/usr/bin/stty -istrip cs8
dans mes fichiers d'environnement .cshrc ou .login. Ca semble marcher
egalement sans la derniere ligne. Ca marchait sur la console, mais pas
dans Openwindows. Pour que ca marche en Openwindows il faut avoir
SETDISPLAYSCREEN() {
DISPLAY=${BASEDISPLAY}.$1
if winsysck x11 ; then
:
else
echo No display available for screen $1
exit 1
fi
eval `svenv -env`
}
dans le fichier .openwin-init. Ca ne marchait pas tant que je
n'avais pas la ligne "eval `svenv -env`".
Pour AIX je ne peux rien dire.
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Hi,
How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my
signature file appends at the bottom?
Please reply me. Thanks.
Mel
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I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who has managed to
get PC-PINE 3.91 working with PC-NFS 5.1 (DOS 6.00). I'd like to
know how you did it!
Rather than going into a lot of detail here, suffice it to say that
pine cannot find the inbox (it gives "[Host not found: xxxxx]"). I
can connect to the host just fine from all other applications, and
can successfully connect to the IMAP server ("telnet xxxx 143").
Pine: no go.
-steve
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Hi folks-
Just have one question concerning EWAN telnet for Winsock, and PINE. A
user tried to print an e-mail message from his account (which uses pine),
through EWAN Telnet, a Winsock App. However, the print job didn't go
through. Instead, EWAN or PINE erased the e-mail message. Does anyone
have any insight concerning this problem? If so, I would really
appreciate a response. TIA!
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I need to type lines longer than 72 columns but somehow PICO/PINE keeps
wrapping the lines after, say, 72 columns. Is there anyway to turn off
that feature of auto-wrapping? Or is there anyway to set the right margin
beyond 72 columns?
The reason I need to go beyond 72 columns is that I'm sending commands to
a listserver which somehow does not recognize the usual continuation
characters &. At the moment, I use VI to prepare the files and then send
them off either by ELM or MAIL. Othertimes, I use PINE to read my usual
mails. A little bit cumbersome!
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I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R,
but I wasn't successful in doing so.
I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result.
If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the
patches.
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Ilan
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I'm trying to resolve a printing problem for a friend using
Qmodem V4.5 as his PC communications software. It appears
that Qmodem does not understand the ansi escape sequences
for printing which are sent by PINE when invoking the "Y"
(attached-to-ansi print) function.
Since I use TELIX, I'm not that familiar with Qmodem. Does
anyone know if it's possible to configure Qmodem to recognize
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I teach introductory classes to students using e-mail for the first time
all over our campus (15,000+ students). Many times the class rooms that I
visit are not networked. Using a laptop and LCD Projector, I can run a
powerpoint slide show and then demo PCPINE (which looks almost identical
to pine under unix) except that I can't seem to compose due to the
fact that it looks for an imap server. Is there any way to fake it so
that it thinks I can compose? (I really don't want to send anything -
just show students how pine works.)
Any help will be appreciated!
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On 3 Feb 1995, Kolsam Mel Keo wrote:
> Date: 3 FEB 1995 17:01:15 GMT
> From: Kolsam Mel Keo <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Need help with signature!
>
>
> Hi,
>
> How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my
> .signature file appends at the bottom?
>
> Please reply me. Thanks.
>
> Mel
>
>
if you are using pine 3.91 just create a file called .signature in
you home directory
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>
[email protected] (Farid Hamjavar) writes:
> OS: aix3.2.5
> PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91
>
> When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long
> imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make
> it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our
> environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this
> happens?
I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an
extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an
error message "IMAP Connection Went Away".
Only workaround I've come up with is to let Pine time out until the
"Break connection?" prompt, break the connnection, postpone the message,
then quit and restart Pine.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you. My service provider is no help, and a
previous post here yielded no suggestions.
Anyone have any ideas to resolve the connection timeout problem?
Roland
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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 23:41:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Terry Gray <
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To:
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Cc:
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Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long
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Are either of you using an alternate-editor?
When an alternate editor is active, Pine is asleep and unable to "ping"
the IMAP server to prevent the server timeout. This is a problem, but so
far we don't have a good solution for it.
-teg
On 4 Feb 1995
[email protected] wrote:
> >
[email protected] (Farid Hamjavar) writes:
> > OS: aix3.2.5
> > PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91
> >
> > When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long
> > imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make
> > it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our
> > environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this
> > happens?
>
> I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an
> extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an
> error message "IMAP Connection Went Away".
>
> Only workaround I've come up with is to let Pine time out until the
> "Break connection?" prompt, break the connnection, postpone the message,
> then quit and restart Pine.
>
> Sorry I don't have an answer for you. My service provider is no help, and a
> previous post here yielded no suggestions.
>
> Anyone have any ideas to resolve the connection timeout problem?
>
> Roland
>
>
>
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Subject: procmail problems! ARGH!
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I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to
mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a
SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is:
"|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed"
And my .procmailrc file is:
PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended
:0:
* ^From.*
[email protected]
from_me
:0
* ^Subject:.*Flame
/dev/null
I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put
all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the
forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I
checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I
think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting
anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder.
I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the
mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions?
--
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Aerospace Engineering
San Diego State University
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I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to
mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a
SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is:
"|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed"
And my .procmailrc file is:
PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended
:0:
* ^From.*
[email protected]
from_me
:0
* ^Subject:.*Flame
/dev/null
I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put
all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the
forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I
checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I
think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting
anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder.
I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the
mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions?
--
Tracy Reed
Aerospace Engineering
San Diego State University
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From: Mr Kevin Yeung <
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> I need to type lines longer than 72 columns but somehow PICO/PINE keeps
> wrapping the lines after, say, 72 columns. Is there anyway to turn off
> that feature of auto-wrapping? Or is there anyway to set the right margin
> beyond 72 columns?
Hi, try "pico -w". Bye.
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Sorry, but I agree with Glenn. Having to take my fingers off the
home keys is a major reason why I don't use pine unless I'm forced to.
- Andy
Barry Landy (
[email protected]) wrote:
: On 23 Jan 1995, Glenn Leavell wrote:
: > 1) In INDEX mode, allow the 'k' and 'j' keys to be used to move the current
: > pointer up and down (j key would only function like this if
: > jump short cut were turned on). This convention can be
: > found in vi, Elm, Gopher, and other utilities, so it makes things
: > somewhat consistent.
: >
: I think this is a dreadful idea. It of course harks back to long dead
: terminals which had arrows engraved on those keys, accessed, I think, in
: ESCAPE mode.
: As someone who teaches Pine, its transparency is a major virtue, and
: those places where this breaks down (like the dreadful Y for prYnt)
: cause problems; when teaching it is wonderful for A to be Add, C compose
: and so on. Previous and Next are enough alternatives to up-arrow and
: down-arrow, thanks.
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote:
> According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message
> received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you
> an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit
> (Reply) you'll get the "+".
>
> Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header.
No, that can't be the problem. Some non-reply messages addressed to me
get the "+" flag, others don't.
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote:
> What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left
> Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account
> name. If they match then you will get the "+".
That can't be it. I get mail addressed to:
Francis Old <
[email protected]>
Francis E. Old <
[email protected]>
Chip Old <
[email protected]>
Francis "Chip" Old <
[email protected]>
<
[email protected]>
The only one that _never_ sets the "+" flag is the one beginning with
Francis "Chip" Old. The others sometimes set it, sometimes not.
> Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system
> call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account
> on hobbes. If you send email to
[email protected] it will
> show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to
>
[email protected] I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that
> it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains.
Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Mail addressed to
[email protected] forwarded to
[email protected] should show
up in your Inbox on cdc.com still addressed to
[email protected], so it shouldn't set the "+" flag. Mail
addressed directly to
[email protected] should show up on cdc.com with
the "+" flag.
That's how it works for me, at least.
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On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Tracy R. Reed wrote:
> I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to
> mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a
> SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is:
>
> "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed"
You need to have a # in front of your username, otherwise 'treed' is
treated like an argument for frocmail (which doesn't exist):
"|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail #treed"
On the system I'm on this syntax works fine:
"|IFS=' ' && exec /home/ma/csgrad1/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #treed"
hth,
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The form you have is telling procmail to look for a procmail rcfile
with the filename "treed"
Try:
"|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail #treed"
> Subject: procmail problems! ARGH!
> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Summary:
> Keywords:
> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0]
>
> I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to
> mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a
> SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is:
>
> "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed"
>
> And my .procmailrc file is:
>
> PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin
> MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists
> DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional
> LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended
>
> :0:
> * ^From.*
[email protected]
> from_me
>
> :0
> * ^Subject:.*Flame
> /dev/null
>
> I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put
> all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the
> forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I
> checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I
> think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting
> anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder.
> I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the
> mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions?
>
> --
> Tracy Reed
> Aerospace Engineering
> San Diego State University
>
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I just ftp'd pine3.91, and I see the "build" file will compile pine for
ultrix, next, sun, ptx, and a32, but no mention of AUX. Is anyone running
pine on A/UX 3.0 or later?
In contrib/aux.port I found aux.diff, and the README says:
This is a first cut at a port of Pine to A/UX 3.0 by Marcelo Gallardo
<
[email protected]>. This port arrived too late to be merged into
the Pine 3.85 release, but is expected to be included in a future release.
Does anyone know if these changes were included in pine 3.91? If not, can
anyone tell me how to use aux.diff?
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Yep. Just use Alt+three-digit-number. E-mail me for details.
On 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote:
> how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there
> knows? meb
>
>
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I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please
e-mail.
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Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here.
I know nothing about computer languages etc.
Much appreciated!
Best, John
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[ Article crossposted from crl.general ]
[ Author was Bob Corbett ]
[ Posted on 3 Feb 1995 09:40:25 -0800 ]
I have having a frustrating problem inPine.
If I have two message that come in and I want to edit them into
one message, I try to forward the first one to myself, then cut some
stuff out. I then forward the second message to myself and try to
paste the first message into the second. NOthing happens.
Control ^ works just find.
Control K cuts just as it's supposed.
Control U will repaste INSIDE any message, but will not
repaste into a new message.
Somewhere I read that perhaps esc esc U would do it. NOpe.
Is it impossible to cut and paste from message to message or am
I doing something wrong?
Please help.
Thanks, Bob Corbett
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Comes here Mr. Rheinhardt with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in
this article on Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:25:08 -0500:
+ I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive?
This is currently not avail. however what i would do is (E)xport the mail to
$HOME and then download it from there to local machine either by using 'ftp'
if you are on ethernet or if you are dialing in, then any serial xfer protocol
aware s/w like kermit, sz, procomm or something similar. Hope this helps.
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Comes here Mr. Brad with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this
article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:41:05 +0000:
+ But what about when you want to reply to a mail from a mailing
+ list but reply only to the sender (not to the entire list)?...
Keeping up with this thread, here's a situation i usually encounter.
A user sends an e-mail to a person, Cc's to the mailing list and then sets the
Reply-To to go to the list.
So when i reply, it prompts me first for do you want to use Reply To: instead
of From, I say yes and now since the original poster had Cc'd to the list
it prompts me again for Do you want to reply to all the recipients.
I'm using the Reply-To: so the reply will go to the list, so it includes every
one so where is the question of 'all reciepients' unless ofcourse if the
original poster had Cc'd to someone else who is not on the list.
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Dear helpers,
I got the source code of pine. I tried to build it
on the linux machine. But there is no linux platform available.
The readme file indicate /doc/pine_pro file doesn't exit in
my directory. Is there any one can give me some help?
Could you e-mail me to "
[email protected]"
Thank you very much!
Dan
Feb 4
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: Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to
: Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to
: reply anywhere else.
The "Reply to:" usually means that you have received the
email from a mailing list. The choice is do you wish to
reply to everyone on the mailing list or only the
author.
Pine gives you the choice. If your email continues the
discussion everyone is interewsted. However you also
have the choice of sending something to the author only.
: I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am
: asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply".
Yes, such a config option would be good.
Roberts Freimuts
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This may be a silly idea, but I reckon it would be nice to be able to
set the character set independently for composing messages and for viewing
them. I say this because a few people in the US have been complaining at me
for accidentally hitting Shift-3 when I should have used the 'proper' hash
key, thus getting =20's and all those other things scattered throughout my
mail. But! when viewing messages, it would be nice to be able to set the
character set to ISO-8859-1, as I can view these character sets (plus I
wouldn't get that message about some characters maybe being displayed
incorrectly).
Just my Thought For The Day. :)
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From: Mary Aplin <
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Hello PINErs --
I just compiled PINE3.91 on a DEC Alpha 3300 running OSF. I thought I
had read/heard somewhere that 3.91 could also be used as a POP mail
server. I do already have pop3d on this same alpha. Is it true? If so,
what needs to be done?
Thanks!
Mary Aplin
Loyola University, New Orleans
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There are many languages in the world with which people communicate.
The ASCII symbols available to PINE do not include all the characters
needed for most languages that are not English.
There are conversion filters that will allow the messages to be
converted to the available ASCII characters for sending and receiving but
allowing writing and reading to be done in the desired language.
I am hoping to hear about anyones experiences using such filters/converters,
especially anyone who has tried or succeeded in attaching them to PINE so
that the process is automatic. (That is to say not requiring; write the
text, convert it, send it, receive it, export to a file, read it).
The language I am using is Latvian but the principles should be the same
for any non English language.
Thank you
Roberts Freimuts
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From: Doug Hughes <
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Subject: Re: procmail problems! ARGH!
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problems with procmail deleted
We have replaced the local delivery agent (binmail) with
procmail as described in the Install instructions on the same
type machine running same OS and it works flawlessly (with
sendmail8.6.9). Perhaps not what you wanted to hear, just letting
you know that it does work.
____________________________________________________________________________
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"Real programmers use cat > file.as"
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From: Ed Greshko <
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To: Chip Old <
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On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Chip Old wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> > What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left
> > Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account
> > name. If they match then you will get the "+".
>
> That can't be it. I get mail addressed to:
>
> Francis Old <
[email protected]>
> Francis E. Old <
[email protected]>
> Chip Old <
[email protected]>
> Francis "Chip" Old <
[email protected]>
> <
[email protected]>
>
> The only one that _never_ sets the "+" flag is the one beginning with
> Francis "Chip" Old. The others sometimes set it, sometimes not.
When I speak of the email address I speak of that within the
seperators < and >. The LHS is to the left of "@" the RHS is to the
right of "@". In all of the case you mention above, they are all equal.
> > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system
> > call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account
> > on hobbes. If you send email to
[email protected] it will
> > show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to
> >
[email protected] I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that
> > it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains.
>
> Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Mail addressed to
>
[email protected] forwarded to
[email protected] should show
> up in your Inbox on cdc.com still addressed to
>
[email protected], so it shouldn't set the "+" flag. Mail
> addressed directly to
[email protected] should show up on cdc.com with
> the "+" flag.
I didn't say that the mail was address as
[email protected]
and then forwarded to
[email protected]. I'm telling you that my email
address is also
[email protected] and I can be addressed directly in
that fashion. Thru the magic of X.500 directory services the email will
be delivered just fine. I'm telling you the mail showing up in my mailbox
address to
[email protected] will *not* have the "+" set...but mail
address to
[email protected] or
[email protected]
or even
[email protected] will arrive with the "+".
When dealing with email systems, don't forget that what is on the
headers may not be what is on the envelope.
Ed
Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3
FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C
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Comes here Mr. Bob Corbett with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in
this article on 3 Feb 1995 11:50:15 -0800:
+ Is it impossible to cut and paste from message to message or am
+ I doing something wrong?
This feature currently is not avail. However what I would do is (E)xport the
first mail into $HOME and then read that file in while responding to the second.
Hope this helps.
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Newsgroups: netcom.mail
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Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Distribution: netcom
Walter Alter (
[email protected]) asked:
: i tried to manually edit the pine .addressbook with pico but found out
: that it doesn't work that way. when i switched back to my saved original
: .addressbook it displayed my entries across the entire screen with the
: addresses running off the screen to the right. it appears that pine is
: interpolating extra tab stops in the display although the .addressbook
: file appears normal. i then resaved the .adressbook under a different name
: and deleted both it and the .addressbook.lu so that pine could start
: over. starting with a virgin .addressbook and entering a sampling of my
: email recipients, pine still displays its columns spread across the
: screen. anyone have an idea on this?
: thanks
: walter
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Hi everyone,
I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x.
Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system
defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf
it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib.
Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Vince
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On 24 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote:
> Ok ... I finally got pine, and I've been playing around with it, and I
> suddenly realize that the cursor keys on our Wyse60 terminals are not
> working inside Pine ...
>
> It looks like the cursor keys send ^K, ^J, ^H, and ^L, which Pine uses
> for other purposes. Is there a way to remap these keys inside Pine, or
> do I initialize the terminal to a different type going in???
Could've sworn I read this and replied several days ago. Do we have a
dup loop going?
We had the same problem here. Based on what youre getting from your
cursor keys, it sounds like your Wyse terminals are set for Wyse 50+
terminal emulation. Pine will work better for you if you reset them to
vt100 emulation. It's easy enough to do, but youi need to switch back
after your Pine session if you need Wyse emulation for other functions.
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On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Michael A. Naud wrote:
> I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the
> laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that
> you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have
> one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function
> keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what
> terminal emulator he uses.
Most current Mac telecomm software has an option to set some other key
(usually the Command or Option key) to act as the Control key on older
Macs that don't have real Control keys.
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On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, David Swanger wrote:
> : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press
> : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the
> : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text.
>
> This works fine if I use pine directly on a Sun workstation (in an xterm
> window) or if I telnet to the Sun from a PC clone running various PC
> communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a
> Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal,
> when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6".
> That's right, no "[ Mark Set ]". I've also seen this with some different
> Mac comm programs when dialing in with a modem and received the same
> result.
>
> My guess is this is a problem with terminal emulation and really isn't
> Pine's fault, but I am curious if anyone has seen this and has a
> work-around?
Yes, it's a terminal emulation problem. Some telecomm softare,
regardless of platform, just doesn't emulate vt100 or vt102 as completely
as it should. If a normal control character doesn't work for you,
substitute two escapes for the control key. In other words, instead of
Control-^, use Esc Esc ^.
For what it's worth, the best vt102 emulation currently available in Mac
telecomm software is provided by Microphone Pro. It's pretty pricey, but
you can do almost anything with it. VersaTerm Pro is also supposed to be
very good, but Ive never used it. If money is a problem, I recommend the
$30 shareware Zterm (although it doesn't handle vt100/102 print commands
properly, so Pine's "y" print command prints to screen instead of to the
local printer).
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Hi everyone,
I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x.
Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system
defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf
it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib.
Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance!
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On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote:
> Are either of you using an alternate-editor?
>
> When an alternate editor is active, Pine is asleep and unable to "ping"
> the IMAP server to prevent the server timeout. This is a problem, but so
> far we don't have a good solution for it.
> > I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an
> > extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an
> > error message "IMAP Connection Went Away".
Hi Terry, thanks for the response. No altenate editor. I'm using the
built-in. Any other suggestions?
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Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the
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Eric Force (
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: I'm trying to resolve a printing problem for a friend using
: Qmodem V4.5 as his PC communications software. It appears
: that Qmodem does not understand the ansi escape sequences
: for printing which are sent by PINE when invoking the "Y"
: (attached-to-ansi print) function.
I may be wrong, but I think that the "print-to-attched-printer" only
works under vt100 style emulation.
I use TeleMate myself, and it works perfectly when I use VT-102
emulation. Just hit "Y" and out comes my e-mail on my dot matrix. :)
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Probably the two most common ways ways are:
1> To save the message WITH header infomation use the <E>xport command.
2> To save the message WITHOUT header info use <V>iew attachment
then <S>ave.
An abbreviated description of the most useful commands can be viewed
by pressing the ? (HELP) while viewing a message.
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On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rheinhardt wrote:
> I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please
> e-mail.
>
>
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On 3 Feb 1995, Dan Schlitt wrote:
> Nntp has a well defined protocol
> specified in an RFC. To complicate this, there are proposed extensions
> and refinements which are not yet in the form of an RFC.
Unfortunately, these two statements conflict with each other. You can not
build a proper functional NNTP client or server using the specification in
RFC-977. Consider the following differences from RFC-977:
1) You are supposed to use LIST ACTIVE to get the list of active
newsgroups. RFC-977 only defines LIST with no argument; there are
reports of NNTP servers which reject this.
2) The only way to find out which message numbers are valid in a sequence
is by the LISTGROUP command (absent in RFC-977) or, failing that, by
the "XHDR Date" command (also absent in RFC-977). RFC-977 requires
you to have holes in your browser -- something that *infuriated* users
of earlier versions of Pine who tried to use the news support.
3) Many NNTP servers do not permit posting without your having first given
the AUTHINFO USER and AUTHINFO PASS commands (absent in RFC-977). [I
wonder if the paranoid site administrators who worry about people
posting forged news messages realize that this "fix" broadcasts
passwords in the clear over the net!].
Pine does not implement this yet, and we're getting beaten up about
it.
4) Many NNTP clients have been changed to take advantage of the XOVER
command (absent in RFC-977), which permits fetching of sufficient
information of a message to build a browser line; and what's more,
permits it over a range of messages.
Pine does not implement this yes, and we're getting beaten up about
it. Right now, Pine laboriously fetches the headers for each message,
one at a time, and does an RFC-822 parse to build the browser line.
This is slow.
5) NNTP is conspicuously the *only* protocol that lacks a no-op command.
Fortunately, unlike POP2, unknown command errors do not cause the
connection to die, so a client can issue a NOOP command and ignore
any error in the server's response.
The only rational conclusion that one must make is that there is no such
thing as a standard NNTP protocol. Rather, each client and server
implementor is on his own to build something that more or less
interoperates with the maximal number of other implementation.
Yes, this is a lousy circumstance. But this is the condition that NNTP
is in. It is not possible to develop a viable NNTP implementation using
the published specification.
Given that other NNTP server and client implementors have had no problem
with the concept of making undocumented commands mandatory, I see no
inconsistancy in doing the same thing in Pine. More importantly, however,
is the fact that there was no choice. It wasn't just that people were
beating up on us about the lack of NNTP server pinging -- we were being
screwed by it ourselves!
> But Rich Salz
> is one of the folks deeply involved in this revision.
Unfortunately, nothing has come out of Salz's efforts. Even worse, it
seems that the NNTP community seems to have fractured, and there is no
guarantee that anything Salz eventually produces will be accepted. Which
is a shame, since in general Salz seems to have the right ideas.
Consider the recent debate about the function of the Newsgroups: header
line, and the emergence of cretins who insist that headers must be
interpreted in a context-sensitive fashion between news/mail. I don't
think there is any hope of seeing a viable NNTP standard specification
until this matter is resolved (and there is little hope of the result
being accepted if the cretins win).
> So the question is
> whether the NOOP is a part of the protocol (or is likely to be in the
> extensions). If the answer is no then Pine should not generate the NOOPs.
As I pointed out earlier, the NOOPs are harmless. Or rather, they should
be. NOOP is an unknown command in a strict interpretation of RFC-977.
The specification is quite clear about the treatment of unknown commands.
So, in that regard, NOOP -- or rather, the correct server behavior to a
NOOP command -- is part of the protocol.
I am sorry about the log file garbage that some server maintainers have as
a result. However, part of the process of gathering logging information
is identifying what information is significant, and filtering out the
unimportant information. Logs with excessive noise are just as bad as
inadequate logs.
More importantly, stating that "NOOP log events are filling up my disk"
is an open broadcast to all crackers about how to commence a denial of
service attack on your system. The security implications are worse than
just denial of service to users. A cracker could cause denial of service
to security logging mechanisms. Just send a few hundred thousand bogus
commands at the NNTP server until the disk fills, then crack away without
fear of having evidence against you being logged.
Furthermore, it is fairly common in older Internet protocols for clients
to probe for server capabilities by attempting commands which the server
may or may not know. Newer Internet protocols provide a capability
listing mechanism which allegedly makes this unnecessary (and, as I
expected, we're already seeing skews between advertised capabilities and
implemented ones).
The bottom line is that client behavior (especially non-authenticated
clients such as NNTP clients) that causes excessive resource consumption
on a server identifies a server problem, not a client problem.
I'm confident that if I changed the NOOP to a HELP (which is in RFC-977),
I'll get complaints from server maintainers of their logs being filled up
with help texts. [I know, because that's what I used to do.]
> This is as broader issue than just nntp. In other areas the pine crew
> make quite a point of following the standards and reject lots of
> suggestions on that basis. In this I believe they are correct.
In the case of NNTP, there simply is no standard that one can use to
develop a viable implementation. There are *no* NNTP implementations
which conform strictly to RFC-977.
NNTP sticks out like a sore thumb in this regard.
> The second issue is whether client designers know in the abstract what
> timeout behaviour should be better than the folks who are running the
> servers. I tend to think that the server operators know better in the
> specific cases and should adjust the timeouts if there are serious problems.
The Pine team has historically come rather firmly on the side of the
client controlling all aspects of the user interface. How long you are
permitted to be idle is an aspect of the user interface.
Judging from the number of vehement complaints in this newsgroup from
people who have had IMAP connections dropped due to a failure in Pine's
timeout suppression mechanism (and yes, we *are* working to nail these!),
it seems that the user community is on Pine's side on this issue.
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PCPine for Windows would be a perfect add-on for my Windows bases host.
The host software is 100% Windows and has the ablity to make calls to
DLL files. The host software can already import QWK and make a mail/news
run using WINNETs' Terminal application, then it does a conversion and auto-
matically imports the e-mail/newsgroups into the forums-messagebases, that's
pretty cool, but I think a PCPine-Win DLL would be great. There is a frame
work of sample source code to build on. It's available in TPascal and C.
I like using PCPine-Win and Unix and would like to allow my dial-up users
to also use it.
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Mark,
You have made things a bit clearer. Please note that I was not among
those that complaines about what ends up in log files. I know how to
manage my logfiles so that isn't a problem. I do like to understand
things that show up there.
I knew that the revisions of the nntp protocol document was long delayed.
I did not realize that things had deteriorated to the state that you
describe.
The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to
be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect
his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the
revision of the protocol.
I don't have a lot of sympathy with those folks who go out to write the
world's latest and greatest news reader and do it without regard to
interoperability and protocol considerations. (And I don't include the
Pine team in that group, so don't take this as a criticism of your work.)
I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP
provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to
deal with. But it is a matter of taste.
It may be that a large part of the problem is that the transport and
reading are contained in the same protocol. Separating the two might get
us standards for both sooner.
On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge.
The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources.
one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the
client. Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout
between client and server (back to the subject of point one). In the
case where the client and server are under the same administrative
control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the
server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important
user base is.
/dan
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Hi everyone,
I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x.
Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system
defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf
it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib.
Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance!
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HI,
I know most of these exist out there but I am wondering where the
locations are.
I have heard of PINE for X (Specifically for Solaris 2.3) as well as NeXT
(intel hardware) and am wondering if that was idle chatter or if they exist.
If they do exist might someone point me in the right direction to locate
them.
Too: Part of this is attempting to have a consistant program distribution
over our netowrk (heaven knows that the OS's and boxes aren't). I have
PC-Pine setup all over the place and standard pine humming along in the
terminal windows of the Suns and NeXT. What I don't have is Pine working
for the command-line impared or our two FreeBSD 2.0 training boxes. (I
haven't managed to sucessfully compile it)
<GASP> So, if anyone can pass along any pointers for FreeBSD compilation
or locals of roden-based pines I would greatly appreciate it!
-Nick
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[email protected] (John Dulaney) writes:
> I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find
>any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one.
> Thanks for all help! Best, John
Decent full-function editors for UNIX (I only use jove, Emacs, and jed)
allow you to mark a region and send it to a UNIX filter, in this case sort.
Read the manpage for your editor and for sort. I believe joe and vi also
allow piping a region to an external command. Basically if you can imagine
a text tranformation, the basic tools of UNIX can accomplish it. Get a good
intro book to UNIX.
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> Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here.
> I know nothing about computer languages etc.
> Much appreciated!
> Best, John
The problem is a classic one of not having a normalized datafile. On UNIX
you could at least give some consideration to treating this as a
bibliography and using the bib tools. To see addbib and his friends,
'man -k bib'
People have given you some pointers. Go check out the books on awk and perl
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Hi,
I am from Mexico and I am trying to write to a friend in Bloomsburg, PA.
Her address is
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But everytime I get a massage from the computer "Host Unknown".
Can somebody help me????
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On Unix, the receiving system mailbox is located at
/var/spool/mail/<userid>
and Unix Pine calls this folder INBOX. On Unix (or
maybe specific to Sun workstation's 'mailtool'), there
is a default mailbox called 'inbox' which is a local
folder in which to move the email.
Within Pine, every mail folder is case-sensitive except
for the INBOX folder. This makes it impossible to move
my email from the system folder to my local 'inbox'
folder.
For clarification: at work I use Sun workstations which
use the X-Window 'mailtool'. When I work from home using
the PC to dial in, I use Pine.
Is there any way that Pine can switch from a case-insensitive
INBOX to something else (maybe even something that the user
can set in the configuration file)?
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Is there a way to configure Pine so that
I am able to use subdirectories within either my
mail or "Subscribed-Groups" directories? What I
would like to do, is to configure my newsgroups
directory so that I can have all of the groups
which are related to a given topic in a separate
subdirectory. Also, I would like to set up my
mail directory so that I have one or two separate
subdirectories for people with whom I regularly
exchange E-Mail, so that I can keep each of them
as a separate folder without cluttering up my
primary mail directory with folders. Also, I am
learning that it may be useful to have a separate
"Lists" folder for storing mail from the various
mailing lists that I am on. Is anything like
this possible?
Mike Rollins
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Speaking only for myself.
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From: Steve Hubert <
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Each folder in the list may have an optional nickname in front of it, and
if it exists, that nickname will be used in the display. The nickname is
separated from the rest of the name by a space.
Steve Hubert <
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Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle
On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Brad wrote:
> Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the
> folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Incoming Message Folders
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth
> /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp
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From: Ted Stern <stern%amath@po_box.cig.mot.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:51:43 -0800
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These questions *weren't* in the FAQ!
Does anyone have any nice sed, awk or perl scripts to convert
addressbook format *TO* Berkeley .mailrc alias format? This is so my
automated mailing can use my pine addresses.
Also, does anyone have scripts for converting mh mailing aliases to pine
addressbook format?
I asked this on just the newsgroup but got no reply.
TIA,
-- Ted
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After running Pine, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file to see if it mamaged
to read the pine.conf file and what it found there...
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
[email protected] (206) 685-6240
|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX)
University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20
4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA
On 4 Feb 1995, Vince Chan wrote:
> Date: 4 FEB 1995 21:57:33 -0800
> From: Vince Chan <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: pine.conf
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x.
> Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system
> defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf
> it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib.
> Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Vince
> E-mail:
>
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>
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> _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________
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> | leap of the 21st Century. |
> \_________________________________________________________________/
>
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>
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>
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Hello... if anybody knows how to do the following, please tell me;
otherwise these are suggestions for the next version.
1. The folder list should display the number of messages in a newsgroup
(so I don't have to enter the newsgroup only to discover it empty!).
Alternatively one might turn off display of empty groups.
2. It should be possible to set up a hierarchy of folders so I can sort
newsgroups by subject. (STRN does this... maybe rn and trn too?)
3. Undelete newsgroup messages.
Thanks for any help, or for taking suggestions! (There are Pine
programmers watching this group, right?)
-David
P.S. I'm using Unix Pine 3.91.
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote:
Hi David,
I just ran pine as both a regular user and a root user but I don't
see a .pine-debug1 in my home directory after running pine. Any ideas?
Thanks for the help.
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Vince
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| leap of the 21st Century. |
\_________________________________________________________________/
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Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology
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>
> After running Pine, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file to see if it mamaged
> to read the pine.conf file and what it found there...
>
> |\ | |\/| David L. Miller
[email protected] (206) 685-6240
> |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX)
> University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20
> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA
>
> On 4 Feb 1995, Vince Chan wrote:
>
> > Date: 4 FEB 1995 21:57:33 -0800
> > From: Vince Chan <
[email protected]>
> > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> > Subject: pine.conf
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x.
> > Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system
> > defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf
> > it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib.
> > Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vince
> > E-mail:
> >
[email protected],\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc.
> >
[email protected],(o o) San Francisco, California USA
> > _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________
> > | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum |
> > | leap of the 21st Century. |
> > \_________________________________________________________________/
> >
[email protected] UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering
> > Los Angeles, California USA
> >
> > GUS Digest Adminstrator
> > Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology
> >
> > System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only
problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just
ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in
pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm
use pine v3.91, btw.
Any help is appreciated.
--
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How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the
help file is not the clearest. Thank yo.
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Subject: Re: Unix INBOX
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The answer is no, you can't. The definition of INBOX actually comes from
IMAP, and is specifically case-insensitive.
However, you can access a file named inbox, by prefixing it with some
sort of directory specifier, e.g. ~/inbox, ~/mail/inbox, etc.
-- Mark --
On 6 Feb 1995, Steven Feinholz wrote:
>
> On Unix, the receiving system mailbox is located at
>
> /var/spool/mail/<userid>
>
> and Unix Pine calls this folder INBOX. On Unix (or
> maybe specific to Sun workstation's 'mailtool'), there
> is a default mailbox called 'inbox' which is a local
> folder in which to move the email.
>
> Within Pine, every mail folder is case-sensitive except
> for the INBOX folder. This makes it impossible to move
> my email from the system folder to my local 'inbox'
> folder.
>
> For clarification: at work I use Sun workstations which
> use the X-Window 'mailtool'. When I work from home using
> the PC to dial in, I use Pine.
>
> Is there any way that Pine can switch from a case-insensitive
> INBOX to something else (maybe even something that the user
> can set in the configuration file)?
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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In article <
[email protected]>,
Vincent Cate <
[email protected]> wrote:
>First, about security. I don't want users to be able to get out of Pine.
>Are there any recommended settings to tighten up security? How tight can
>it get? I think I don't want them to be able to read or write files on
>the Unix machine except for their folders.
I've done some modifications to pine so that users of a BBS can use it
as their mailer. Involved removing features that may let them look at
arbitrary files or execute arbitrary programs, and adding upload and
download commands so they can read or save file on their local computer.
If there is interest I'll see if the BBS folks will let me release the
secure version. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Even if I can, people
who pick it up will probably have to modify it a little to fit their own
environment. I use some functions that are propritary to the BBS. Plus,
every's idea of what is secure is a little different.
>Second, is there a PC-Pine for PCs that dial into a Unix system? I have not
>used the PC-Pine, but it looks like it is for PCs on a network. Do I have
>to use SLIP or UUPC on all the PCs? Is there other software that runs on
>PCs so users can write and read mail offline so they don't need to stay
>connected to my machine so long? (Cable and Wireless is very slow about
>getting me more phone lines - nearly 3 months now.)
You can use pc-pine with dialup IP (SLIP or PPP). But it's not very
good about offline mail reading. I think that Pegasus mail provides
good offline reading, but it's a POP mail client.
-- Tom Unger
WWC, Seattle
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Hello all,
auto-move-read-msgs works well when connected to the local INBOX.
However, when connected to a remote INBOX via IMAP I have no luck.
Is it possible to configure pine to also auto-move these messages.
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On 7 Feb 1995, Thi V Nguyen wrote:
> Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only
> problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just
> ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in
> pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm
> use pine v3.91, btw.
Isn't Bcc for this purpose?
--
Kevin Yeung
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In <
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[email protected] (Kolsam Mel Keo) writes:
>Hi,
>
>How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my
>.signature file appends at the bottom?
>
>Please reply me. Thanks.
>
>Mel
>
Go into Setup/Config and set the "signature-at-bottom" feature.
Alternatively you can edit the the .pinerc file and add "signature-at-bottom"
to the feature-list entry.
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I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how
fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to
get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each
newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when
not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same.
Thanks, Don.
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On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Cool Hacker wrote:
> On 3 Feb 1995, Kolsam Mel Keo wrote:
>
> > How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my
> > .signature file appends at the bottom?
> >
> >
>
> if you are using pine 3.91 just create a file called .signature in
> you home directory
>
>
And set signature at bottom
David C. Saville
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Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326
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Yes,it is easy. In the To: write your own address. Then, while up
at the top hit control R. YOu will get the expanded heading.
This will cause you to get more of a heading and it will include
bcc (blind carbon copy). On this line type the name of your
mailing list. Then, even though the whole list is on that letter,
your recipients will only get a letter addressed to themself.
sound (
[email protected]) wrote:
: Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or
: Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the
: list. Thank you.
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ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE (
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: How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the
: help file is not the clearest. Thank yo.
I have a mailing list. It was quite easy. Once in my mailing list I
believe Ihit z. Check the list at the bottom. It asked me to name the
list, which I did as ptp. Then it asked for addresses (not names. Mine
won't let me put names on addresses).
Then when I want to mail I merely hit ptp on the send line, at least that
is what I did early on. Then my list got up to over 100 people and all
those addresses took up 3 pages.
So, now when I get ready to mail I mail it to ME. Then I hit
Conrol R and I get an expanded heading, including a line
bcc (blind carbon copy). Next I type my ptp on this line and now
the letter goes out with only one person's name, their own, on each
of the 100+ letters.
Hope this helps, bob Corbett
If it is not clear, write back, I'll try again.
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 23:35:17 +0100
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>
> ... I thought I
> had read/heard somewhere that 3.91 could also be used as a POP mail
> server. I do already have pop3d on this same alpha. Is it true? If so,
> what needs to be done?
(I suppose you meant POP *client*.)
>From the 6 januari FAQ:
Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server?
No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline
mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server
to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it
is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of
either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release.
Implementation/technical question to the Pine team:
On our Unix site we would like to use POP (with Kerberos
support, "kpop") just as a safer method of fetching
/usr/spool/mail/$USER contents to $HOME/mbox than using
NFS. We have a program which can do this kpop fetch.
How difficult would it be (for you or us) to change Pine to run
this program for the mbox-fetch rather than opening and copying
it itself? Hmm, a change in the c-client mbox.c file (we use
mbox driver as default), function mbox_ping() seems to be
needed, right?
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This seems like it must be a FAQ but I can't find it in the official
FAQ. Anyway, I was wondering if it is possible to remove the header
information when you export a message. If so please let me know how to
do it. I know you can just edit the file later, but that can be a hassle
if you're Exporting a lot of files.
Eric Mockensturm
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Thi V Nguyen (
[email protected]) wrote:
Yes, and it is quite easy. When you open a message to either compose or
forward, address the message to yourself. Then, while the cursor is
still there in the heading, his Control R. You will not have an
expanded heading. Under the cc line will be a new line bcc which means
blind carbon copy. On tht line type the name of your mailing list, or
the lsit of individuals, which ever. Then each person will receive a
copy that only has your name and their own.
The only copy that will have all the names is the one that goes to
your sent mail file. Even when you get your on copy (recall, you are the
top line recipient) yours will not have the bcc list.
Hope this is clear, if not let me know where you get into trouble and
I'll try to help out.
Best, Bob Corbett
: Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only
: problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just
: ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in
: pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm
: use pine v3.91, btw.
: Any help is appreciated.
: --
: Thi Nguyen
:
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I am looking out for a version of PINE that will run on a MACINTOSH.
I would appreciate any suggestions on possible sites.
Thanking you in avdance.
=========================================================================
G E O R G E B R O W N - T H E C I T Y C O L L E G E
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System Administrator || 146 Kendal Ave.
|| Toronto, Ontario
Phone: (416) 944-4591 || Canada
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Subject: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility
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I really get irritated by the lack of a SHELL facility in the PINE
message editor. At least if I could POSTPONE the composition and
then SHELL from the menu without leaving PINE completely, that
would suffice. But it would be ideal to have it in the editor itself.
I tried to switch to using ELM for a while, but gave up, since it
doesn't have a COMPOSE command. I suppose I'm expected to use
EMACS with the appropriate macros, but I don't want to travel
down that road again, so I use PICO (it looks a lot like the
editor built into PINE, probably due to the common authorship).
Does PINE have a SHELL command? Am I missing it? Send replies via
email, please.
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Subject: 150+ concurrent copies of pine running.....
Date: 5 Feb 1995 22:03:51 -0500
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Hiya folks....
Was wondering if anyone has messed with this at all.
Pine is a pretty big boy to run.
I've got a Sun Sparc2k, and frequently have 200+ people on.
Has anyone played with Shared-configurations of pine under Solaris 2.x?
I thought that maybe unbundling pico from pine would help.
(since pico would only be called if someone is composing and not when
someone is reading).
I guess I'm looking for ideas on cutting down on memory usuage...
Thanks for any clues... (I know..... buy more memory :-)
MikeE
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Subject: Re: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 21:46:51 -0500
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In article <
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[email protected]
(Ilan Graifer) wrote:
> I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R,
> but I wasn't successful in doing so.
>
> I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result.
>
> If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the
> patches.
I've asked the same question some time ago with no result. The problem is
that none of the install script that come with Pine are working with BSD
4.4 g and it seams nobody has done the port yet. Some guys here who are a
lot better than me in Unix we'll do the required modifications as soon as
they resolved our more pressing problems (with FreeBSD 2.0R, the DNS stop
and the server reboot for no reason).
I'll post as soon as I have a workable solution. If you find a way before
that, please post here or contact me.
Best
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From: Mark Crispin <
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Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine?
To: Dan Schlitt <
[email protected]>
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST), Dan Schlitt wrote:
> The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to
> be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect
> his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the
> revision of the protocol.
As I said, I think that Salz has the right ideas. The problem is that I've
seen certain other individuals in the NNTP community challenge him on other
matters (specifically, the role of message headers in news), and what's worse,
by his own admission the NNTP document update effort has stalled.
It's a shame, but given what I've seen, I can understand the burnout.
> I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP
> provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to
> deal with. But it is a matter of taste.
The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately,
DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the
unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-)
> On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge.
> The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources.
> one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the
> client.
It depends upon what you consider the role of timeouts to be. If you see them
as a safety belt to allow the garbage collection of abandoned collections,
then it is not only reasonable, it is *mandatory*, that the client reassure
the server that it is still there at periodic intervals.
> Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout
> between client and server (back to the subject of point one).
Perhaps, but technically, timeouts are a violation of the TCP spec! TCP is
rather emphatic about this. During a nuclear war, you do not want Clinton's
telnet session to nuker.af.mil to be dropped just because a section of network
in Ohio evaporated and it took a few minutes before another 747 with a cisco
and microwave transceiver could be sent up to replace the lost line.
> In the
> case where the client and server are under the same administrative
> control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the
> server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important
> user base is.
As I said, timeouts have a useful purpose in an LAN configuration with
machines such as PCs and Macs which are not completely careful about notifying
the other end (via TCP reset) when their applications go away (worse, they
tend to use the same port numbers, and get screwed if the connection is still
there at the server). We're not really worried about keeping our NNTP service
available during nuclear war. ;-) But, we want to have abandoned servers
from PC/Mac clients go away fairly aggressively (for reasons outlined above)
without impacting live clients. This leads us naturally to short timeouts and
keepalive pings.
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Amy L. Lauderdale (
[email protected]) wrote:
: I use telix to connect to my local university and use pine from that
: system. I have a student who is using the windows terminal software
: to connect from home. I tried it here on my computer to try to
: help her learn.
: There are a couple of problems we ran into. It will not let us use
: the arrow keys in pine. And it will not let us use ^C to cancel
: a message.
: Any suggestions?
: ************************************************************
: Amy Lauderdale/Math Teacher
: Lafayette High School/Northwest Community College
: Oxford, MS
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: ************************************************************
*******
This is a problem I also ran into when using WINDOWS TERMINAL to attempt to
send ^C and arrow key commands to our machine. My solution was to toggle
the parameter: Settings/Terminal Preferences/"Use Function, Arrow, and Ctrl
Keys for Windows" from its default of "X" to no-"X" in the dialog box. This
apparently keeps TERMINAL from intercepting these keystrokes and allows them
to pass to the modem.
Raymond Bayerl, Patent Examiner, US PTO
[email protected]
*******
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On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rheinhardt wrote:
> Date: Sat, 4 FEB 1995 11:25:08 -0500
> From: Rheinhardt <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: How do I save Pinemail to a text file?
>
> I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please
> e-mail.
>
>
press e while reading the mail and it asks you for a filename
also you can use v
and then press s
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>From time to time one receives a non-attached document in the body of the
message and some kind of explanation in the beginning. It would be great
to have means of automating the vieing of the document in this case.
For example, if I have received a *TeX file with some comments, I would
like to, say, press E)dit while viewing, which will take me to the
editor, cut the actual *TeX lines and save them in a file from the
editor. This could be done with or without saving the modifications to
the text of the message.
--
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Ed Greshko <
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>
> Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system
>call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account
>on hobbes. If you send email to
[email protected] it will
>show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to
>
[email protected] I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that
>it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains.
We use the Firstname.Lastname -type aliases a lot, so our users asked if
they could get pine to recognize those aliases too. This alias thing
should probably be a configurable option, but I solved it by modifying
the source to use the PERSONAL_NAME variable. It's usually set
automatically from the gecos field, but can be set from the pinerc too.
So, if you set the PERSONAL_NAME to Ed Greshko, this patch gets pine
to recognize e-mail sent to
[email protected] and tag them with '+'.
Note that since the RHS isn't checked at all, this can have surprise
effects with, for example, John.Smiths of the world.
---------- 8< ------------------- 8< ----------------- 8< ----------
*** addrbook.c.orig Mon Oct 17 13:58:42 1994
--- addrbook.c Mon Oct 17 14:03:20 1994
***************
*** 7848,7858 ****
ADDRESS *a;
struct pine *ps;
{
if(!a || a->mailbox == NULL)
return 0;
! /* at least LHS must match */
! if(strucmp(a->mailbox, ps->VAR_USER_ID) == 0
&&
/* and either personal name matches or hostname matches */
--- 7848,7867 ----
ADDRESS *a;
struct pine *ps;
{
+ char *alias, *p;
+
if(!a || a->mailbox == NULL)
return 0;
! alias = fs_get(strlen(ps->VAR_PERSONAL_NAME) + 1);
! strcpy(alias, ps->VAR_PERSONAL_NAME);
!
! while ((p = strindex(alias, ' ')) != NULL)
! *p = '.';
!
! /* at least LHS must match user-id */
! /* or alias formed from PERSONAL_NAME matches - LadyBug -94 */
! if((strucmp(a->mailbox, ps->VAR_USER_ID) == 0 ||
! strucmp(a->mailbox, alias) == 0)
&&
/* and either personal name matches or hostname matches */
--
Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen University of Helsinki Lea doesn't
[email protected] Computing Centre rhyme with tea.
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The current version of Pine (3.91) doesn't show you how many articles are
present in a newsgroup. No indication has been given (that I recall)
whether this may be included in a future release; but certainly it gets
asked for on and off!
The easiest thing for you to do is press the TAB key.
TAB normally moves you to the next New (unread) message/article. When
reading news if there are no more articles in the current newsgroup it
will search on through your list of subscribed groups looking for one
that contains articles. If no more newsgroups with articles are found it
offers to return you to the INBOX.
It may be that the same behaviour applies to mail folders (probably does,
knowing the Pine Team's wonderful consistency) but I tend to only use TAB
in anger when reading News so haven't noticed. I seem to recall there
may be some options in the Setup Configuration screen too worth looking at.
Mike Brudenell
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On 6 Feb 1995, Don Stimson wrote:
> I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how
> fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to
> get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each
> newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when
> not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same.
>
> Thanks, Don.
>
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>
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST), Dan Schlitt wrote:
> The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to
> be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect
> his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the
> revision of the protocol.
As I said, I think that Salz has the right ideas. The problem is that I've
seen certain other individuals in the NNTP community challenge him on other
matters (specifically, the role of message headers in news), and what's worse,
by his own admission the NNTP document update effort has stalled.
It's a shame, but given what I've seen, I can understand the burnout.
> I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP
> provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to
> deal with. But it is a matter of taste.
The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately,
DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the
unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-)
> On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge.
> The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources.
> one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the
> client.
It depends upon what you consider the role of timeouts to be. If you see them
as a safety belt to allow the garbage collection of abandoned collections,
then it is not only reasonable, it is *mandatory*, that the client reassure
the server that it is still there at periodic intervals.
> Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout
> between client and server (back to the subject of point one).
Perhaps, but technically, timeouts are a violation of the TCP spec! TCP is
rather emphatic about this. During a nuclear war, you do not want Clinton's
telnet session to nuker.af.mil to be dropped just because a section of network
in Ohio evaporated and it took a few minutes before another 747 with a cisco
and microwave transceiver could be sent up to replace the lost line.
> In the
> case where the client and server are under the same administrative
> control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the
> server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important
> user base is.
As I said, timeouts have a useful purpose in an LAN configuration with
machines such as PCs and Macs which are not completely careful about notifying
the other end (via TCP reset) when their applications go away (worse, they
tend to use the same port numbers, and get screwed if the connection is still
there at the server). We're not really worried about keeping our NNTP service
available during nuclear war. ;-) But, we want to have abandoned servers
from PC/Mac clients go away fairly aggressively (for reasons outlined above)
without impacting live clients. This leads us naturally to short timeouts and
keepalive pings.
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From: Emile CARCAMO <
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Subject: Pine 3.91 under ConvexOS 11.0
To:
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Hello,
I've been using pine since release 3.05 under ConvexOS. The product
is REALLY NICE and fits to all kind of users ('beginners' and 'gurus')
in the Convex French office. Now I try to port version 3.91. After the
'build cvx' completion, I got this message when exiting pine :
> Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington.
> [Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping message]
>Y [Yes]
>N No
>Error resetting signals: No such file or directory
Does it sound like a known problem to you ? I forgot to point out that
I did comment two lines in c-client/osdep.h to avoid an error message
concerning malloc/realloc during build :
>Making Pine.
>cc -tm c1 -DCVX -cxdb -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"CVX\" -c addrbook.c
>cc: Error on line 49 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'malloc' redeclared: incompatible types.
>cc: Error on line 50 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'realloc' redeclared: incompatible types.
>cc: Can't recover from previous errors
>*** Exit 1
>`pine' not built due to errors
I compile successfully pine once these lines are commented.
Many thanks in advance for your help, best regards.
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From: Dan Schlitt <
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To: Lea Viljanen <
[email protected]>
Cc:
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Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag
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Berkeley mail, if you will pardon the expression, has a provision for
specifying a list of alternate names. It is used to remove the alternate
names from the list of recipients when replying. But, then, it didn't
really have a feature like the personal mail flag so it couldn't use it
for that purpose in any case. Perhaps the Pine team could consider such
a feature as a part of the configuration.
/dan
--
Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems
[email protected] City College of New York
(212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031
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Bonjour
I have the following problem. I sent a similar question a few days ago
and did not get any answer...
If someone use the function "reply" to
reply to one of my message he gets the following return adress:
duhaimj%
[email protected] instead of
[email protected]
Any idea of how to solve the problem?
Johanne Duhaime
IRCM
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Here are a few scripts to help solve the "arrow keys in pine on a Wyse
terminal" problem. Put them in your "bin" directory and then call
"wpine" instead of "pine". Your arrow keys and a few function keys
(Prev/Next Page, Line/Char delete) will now work.
Beware: if you do multiple session stuff you may wind up with the wrong
kind of keys in the wrong screen.
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Hi! We're having trouble having Pine 3.91 reckon and use the printer
specified in the system-wide configuration file. We've set
"standard-printer=lp" on a SunOS 4.1.3 test host and we get "lpr" for the
standard print command.
Moreover, we have set "standard-printer=lpr" on a Solaris 2.3 production
host and we get "lp" for the standard print command. This also happens on
an HP/UX V9.0 host. However, this does not happen on an AIX 3.2.5 host.
Any suggestions? This is an important matter to us because we have a
customized "lpr."
All replies will be much appreciated.
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From: "Sherry H. Lake" <
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Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0
Pine 3.91
Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine
processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU.
I spoke to a few users, and they turned off their PC while still logged
on and in the pine program.
Is there anything we can do (besides educating our users) with these
runaway jobs. If the user was not in pine, and turned off their PC
without logging off, the login shell goes away once the connection is
gone. But because they are in pine, the login shell does not go away
(and neither does the pine).
Is this a feature of pine? :-)
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George Mason University
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On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Barry Landy wrote:
> One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both
> annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to
> Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to
> reply anywhere else.
> I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am
> asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply".
The headers on most messages from mailing lists (not this one,
unfortunately) include a "From:" field and a "Reply to:" field. Depending
on the circumstances, it may be appropriate to reply to the whole list
(Reply to), or it may be appropriate to reply only to the original sender
(From). Therefore it's appropriate that Pine gives you those options.
Why do you want Pine to force you to always reply to the list rather than
to the individual? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Kamala Dionne Rickett, MHS
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Making the Grade
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:09:17 -0800
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This is an automated response to your Pine[*] bug report. The purpose of
this message is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in
advance for the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3)
assure you that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will
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Pine is now used by literally millions of people around the world, and
thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent
to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no
funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no
longer possible to answer all of them individually.
Alternatives:
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Note that we get many questions that are not actually about Pine. In case
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please contact your local computer support staff. However, we still
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With sincere apologies for this impersonal response,
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:42:44 +0100
From: Emile CARCAMO <
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Hello,
I've been using pine since release 3.05 under ConvexOS. The product
is REALLY NICE and fits to all kind of users ('beginners' and 'gurus')
in the Convex French office. Now I try to port version 3.91. After the
'build cvx' completion, I got this message when exiting pine :
> Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington.
> [Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping message]
>Y [Yes]
>N No
>Error resetting signals: No such file or directory
Does it sound like a known problem to you ? I forgot to point out that
I did comment two lines in c-client/osdep.h to avoid an error message
concerning malloc/realloc during build :
>Making Pine.
>cc -tm c1 -DCVX -cxdb -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"CVX\" -c addrbook.c
>cc: Error on line 49 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'malloc' redeclared: incompatible types.
>cc: Error on line 50 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'realloc' redeclared: incompatible types.
>cc: Can't recover from previous errors
>*** Exit 1
>`pine' not built due to errors
I compile successfully pine once these lines are commented.
Many thanks in advance for your help, best regards.
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|\/\/\/|
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I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R,
but I wasn't successful in doing so.
I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result.
If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the
patches.
Thanks
Ilan
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I would like to buy your software. Please let me know how to order it.
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i will be greatly thanful to anybody who can help me and
guide of how to use pine on my home pc.i have tried to use pine
from my home but ihad no access.i can use it in the university.
there must be some command that i am missing but no one here at
the university can help me.please be kind to get in touch with me
if you know how to use pine remotly on my home pc.
thank you.
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From: Mark Pickard <
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I use Pine 3.91 on SunOs 4.1.1 via modem (vt100 -- COMit for Windows).
Everything seems to work very well except for when I use Pico. The
composer in Pine works normally -- control sequences and even the arrow
keys with the scroll lock on. But in Pico, nothing seems to work right.
No arrow keys and CTRL X is about the only control sequence that works. I
know I can hit the ESC key twice in place of CTRL but why does everything
work in Pine but not in Pico? I thought they were basically the same
thing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Mark Pickard
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Try the "sort" command. Read the online manual pages for it to see the
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Subject: specifying viewer path in .mailcap?
How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and
others like mpeg, etc)???
Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an
environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)?
Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not
happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in
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Actually, they can change this from their .pinerc file. However, the
system administrator can administratively prevent this. All he/she
needs to do is create a pine.conf.fixed file (in addition to the
pine.conf file) and make the appropriate settings.
What the pine.conf.fixed file does is permanently fixes any settings you
do not want your users changing.
Guess how we found this out? Yep, our students were coming up with
creative "from" names too.
Hope this helps
Keith Reel
ONU System Administrator
On 31 Jan 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, David Ewing wrote:
>
> > Pine 3.05 on AIX 3.2.5. Several students at our institution are changing
> > the FROM line in their outgoing mail. For some reason, the sender line is
> > not showing up either. They are changing the address to GOD@UNIVERSE.
> > Needless to say, the teacher who is receiving most of the mail is curious who
> > God really is. Is there a way to insure that the sender will be correctly
> > identified. Thanks in advance.
>
> In later versions (we're up to 3.91 now I think), there IS no FROM line
> handed to you, and there is greater control for the system adminstrator.
>
> B.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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You should be able to ftp your folders from one account to the other.
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Mike Rollins wrote:
> Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST)
> From: Mike Rollins <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Transferring Message Files?
>
>
> I am in the process of changing service providers.
> What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from
> my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name)
> to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in
> usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within
> Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing
> this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch
> out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I
> could use as a template for any editing that I might be
> required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be
> most welcome!
>
> Mike Rollins
>
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> Speaking only for myself.
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>
>
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Hi folks!
I've figured out some nice tricks:
1) Here is a csh alias to bring up PINE in its own window (put it in
your .cshrc):
alias xpine "xterm -geometry 80x50+10+10 -n PINE -e /usr/local/bin/pine &"
2) I also looked into the WWW site for pine,
http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/
and retrieved the little pine.xbm file that is in there. I used
xbmtopbm and pbmtoicon to convert this to an icon file which I have
attached to this message ;).
However, I can't manage one last thing: I want to use that little
pine.icon I created with that special xterm! Does anyone know how to
associate a particular icon with an xterm? If it matters, I am using mwm.
Sorry this isn't really a pine question ...
Thanks,
-- Ted
============================================================================
Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20
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> Thanks for all the input when I asked about threading. The sort by order
> really makes a difference. Last question on this: Upon leaving a
> newsgroup, that feature is lost. Is there a way of retaining the sorting
> as a permanent feature?
>
> Thanks very much
>
> Michele
>
> ****************************************************************************
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>
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>
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> O
>
>
Dear Michele
When you are in the main menu type s for setup. Request c for
configuration. Somewhere in the configuration menu the is a sort menu.
Choos whichever sort you want and it will be permanent. The only problem
is that you'll get your mail the same way.
SusanF.
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Mary Susan Freeman
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To: chermesh
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X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.)
As you can see, the address is "apparantly" from
[email protected].
I tried to use the 'R' option on pine to answer, but this address wasn't
recognized.
Is there a way to solve this minor problem?
Ran
--
Ran Chermesh E - M A I L
Behavioral Sciences Dept. ===========
Ben-Gurion University Internet:
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Beer-Sheva 84105
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Israel Bitnet :
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Phone: 972-7-472-057 Fax: 972-7-232-766
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Subject: How to get 'filter' do multiple actions on mails?
Date: 10 Feb 1995 08:39:42 GMT
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Hi there,
Is anybody know how to get THE filter to use multiple rules on one mail?
Maybe I should explain what I mean... I want filter to forward an
incoming mail AND save it in a folder, according to the from section of
the mail.
I understand that I need to get filter to run a script and get the script
to do what I just explained; but, does anybody know how to write the
bloody script?
I greatly appreciate if anyone could send me a copy of her/his script.
Thanks in advance.
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Subject: Mail bombs - how to avoid?
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Hi Everyone,
I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in
pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know
about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing?
Thanks in advance,
Steven.
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I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command,
which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell
out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work
without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which
I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it,
or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982).
--
-Douglas H. Quebbeman (
[email protected])
"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
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Subject: Re: WWW on Pine?
Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:05:40 GMT
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Mary Susan Freeman <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you get www on pine?
No. In a text-based environment, use Lynx. In a graphical
environment, use Netscape if you can, otherwise Mosaic. There are
some other web browsers available too... Cello for example.
The WWW is interactive; you move around in it in real time. Pine
does only email and news.
-David
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Subject: Re: problems with pico
Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:36:02 GMT
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Liam Relihan <
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)
[email protected] (Timothy J Luoma) writes:
>>pico insists on wrapping what IT arrogantly calls "overlong" lines.
>>This is a problem when dealing with lines of my incredibly ugly code
>>that relies on "overlong" lines.
>>
>>Is there any way to fix/prevent this (or another editor I can use
>>which doesn't do this)?
>
>Invoke pico with the "-w" option.
Wrong. Did you try this?
The "-w" option turns off word wrap (automatically moving words to the
next line when you get the end of a line). It has no effect on what Pico
thinks are lines that are too long. Try editing your .newsrc (which
often has long lines) with Pico and you'll see it divide the long lines.
--
Matt Messina
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I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking
letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it
was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters
(those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help
would be appreciated. Please email
Yongrim
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On 1 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote:
>=20
> > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out ther=
e=20
> > knows? meb
>=20
> =09Well, for Chinese text I run pine in cxterm and then just enter
> the text as a would in a text editor such as celvis (a vi clone with
> 2-Byte support). Works fine...
Here in Z=FCrich, Switzerland, I type the foreign language of English
on the native Swiss-German keyboard. If I were to want to write in one
of the native languages, like in German to describe the F=F6hn that one has
at times in the Alps, the keys for characters such as =E4 and =F6 and =FC a=
re
readily available on the keyboard. Or if I were to write in French, those
keys =E0 and =E9 and =E8 are also there. And there are dead-keys for the ^=
and
` and umlaut to allow me to type =F4 and =C4 and =EC and so on. And I have=
keys
for =E7 and =A3 and =B0 as well.
Not only does this keyboard have the keys for the characters I need,
but the communications program I use generates the correct 8-bit codes
for these characters to match the ISO 8859-1 character set which I've
specified on the configuration screen, last screen.
So how do I type these native characters not normally used for
English words? Very well and conveniently, thank you.
Barry Bouwsma, visiting Z=FCrich, Switzerland after a five hour bike ride
from St Gallen just so I could post this message, so now I go back
<
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From: Mike Rollins <
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST)
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I am in the process of changing service providers.
What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from
my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name)
to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in
usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within
Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing
this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch
out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I
could use as a template for any editing that I might be
required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be
most welcome!
Mike Rollins
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Speaking only for myself.
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Subject: Help forwarding mailbox
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I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the
email addresses of all the students who major in our department.
I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his
having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this
addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without
having to retype it?
@ @ Thanks, @ @ @
@ | @ | @ @ | @ | @ | @
\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ Helen Etters \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:27:08 +0000
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On 2 Feb 1995, Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains wrote:
> Barry Landy (
[email protected]) wrote:
> : One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both
> : annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to
> : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to
> : reply anywhere else.
> : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am
> : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply".
>
> Replys are normally sent to the 'From' address, unless there is a
> different 'Reply To' in the incoming message., in which case you are
> given the option of either replying to the 'Reply To' or to the 'From'
> (which is usually the author).
>
> The default answer 'Y' (yes) at the prompt, sends to the 'Reply To'
> address.
Thank you for the explanation of what I clearly well knew already!
> Unless your setup works different from mine, you don't get
> asked that option unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the
> incomming, so the situation only occurs maybe 5 or 10% of the time.
Our establishment is different to yours, in that lots of people have
reply-to set, as our standard email address is <something>@cam.ac.uk,
whereas the sending domain & id will be <something>@domain.cam.ac.uk
It is usually a mistake to extrapolate from local knowledge and assume it
applies widely.
=======================================================================
Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development,
University of Cambridge Computing Service
[email protected] 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713
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From: "Michael J. Corrigan" <
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To:
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Subject: pc pine under windows 3.1 + wfwg 3.11 + ms tcp-ip + win32s->GPF
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That's my configuation. PC pine doesn't work - it dies
during startup with a general protection fault.
I installed it in the right place.
Has anyone got it working with this configuration ?
I'd appreciate hearing about it if so - or if not.
The machine is a DELL pentium.
Thanks
-mike
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From: Murat BICER {KIO} <
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Subject: auto mail
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can you help me how can i generate an auto mail
for example
for all mails subjected chess i ll send them a catalog
automaticly
how can i do this
thanks lin advance
x
Murat BICER
MasterMinds
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From: LAURA DELUCIA <
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Subject: incoming folders
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I am trying to enable incoming folders so that all the mail I receive from
various machines will come to just one machine (I also don't have any mail
filtering programs, and use the different accounts for primitive
filtering).
I "enabled incoming folders" with the config program, and then tried to
"Add" a new incoming folder. When it asked me what server my other inbox
is at, I typed in ca0286, or on another attempt, the more complete address
of ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov. Then, although I wasn't sure exactly what it
was looking for when it wanted the name of the folder my incoming mail
would be at, I typed in /var/spool/mail/ldelucia (the default file for
sendmail). However, Pine came back with "Can't connect to server
ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov,143:" Connection refused, and Can't access server.
Did I do something wrong, or is Pine appending the ,143 onto my address,
therefore making it invalid?
On another more trivial note, is there any way to enable the keyboard
keys of home, end, backspace, etc.?
TIA :-)
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I am connected to the university, unix-based, computer via a terminal
emulating VT-100 and a modem. Attached to my terminal is a printer. How
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printer?
Any help is appreciated.
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I am having problems with winsock Pine that might be related to updating
the INBOX. Randomly Pine will hang up with an asterisk in the upper left
corner. The windows style menus will still work except for Exit but none
of the keyboard commands will work. Restarting windows is the only way
get Pine back up. My current theory is that Pine is trying to update
the contents of the INBOX from our VMS IMAP server. I've noticed that
the INBOX is never updated. Must you expunge delted messages first? How
is this supposed to work?
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Having downloaded the source for Pine-3.91 from the Liverpool archive, I find
I am unable to compile it properly on a 9000 817 running HP-UX 9.04. Make
falls over when attempting to compile display.c in the Pico directory and
I get the message: Signal 11: segmentation violation.
I have tried dropping the optimisation level, but to no avail.
Any suggestions gratefully received
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Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:00:58 -0800
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You can specify aliases for the incoming folders in the Setup/Config
screen. Here are some examples:
incoming-folders=Beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth,
dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw,
"S.P." /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp,
"This is the 'DS' folder" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds,
"Not Piglet" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA
On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Brad wrote:
> Date: Sun, 5 FEB 1995 23:21:34 +0000
> From: Brad <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Incoming Folders List
>
> Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the
> folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Incoming Message Folders
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth
> /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp
> /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet
>
> Thanks for any help you can give!
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From: Jeff Moore <
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Subject: Config. for Local News groups
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I have tried repeatedly to setup Pine v3.90 to access local news groups
on my DEC AlphaAXP system running OSF/1 v2.0. If the * is in the News
Collections entry, I see nothing and can subscribe to nothing. If I
leave out the * then I see folder collections in that directory, but then
anybody can add and delete messages from those folders if they configure
News Collections the same way. Am I missing something here? I am not
using NNTP (these are supposed to be local news collections). Or perhaps
am I not setting up the files and/or directories correctly. The News
Collection entry I am trying to use is:
MHCC-News */usr/news[]
Any help or clarification on this would be greatly appreciated!
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When I SUBSCRIBE to a NEWSGROUP in PINE, should I not expect to see
posting to that group in my PINE INBOX?
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(apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere, I couldn't find one)
I am attempting to assemble a list of resources (essentially a stack of
manuals) for new 'Net users at my school. While I can usually find what
I want in a man page, the people I am putting this together for are
pretty inexperienced with computers and rather frightened of Unix, in
particular. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find some
simple, easy to read/understand/decypher documents/manuals about Pine (or
using FTP, WWW, Gopher, Archie, UseNet etc.).
Anyway, if someone could help me find such a file (if it exists), I would
be eternally grateful (well, maybe not *eternally*, but at least for five
minutes)...
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Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or
Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the
list. Thank you.
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Can you get www on pine?
Susan F.
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I'd like to request that when I list folders in pine there be a number
with each folder name indicating the number of messages contained in each
folder. I know I've asked for this some time ago but maybe it's more
feasible now?...
thanks
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>Hi!
>I am rather new to pine. Since I am using a commerical server, I only
>get limited on-line time. Does anyone know if there is a way to
>pre-compose messages offline (using a text editor) and then import them
>to pine? It would save a lot of my on-line time.
You can either upload the file directly into the editor using an ascii send
function in you comm program, or you could upload the file before entering
pine, then use the ^R (Read File) command in pico.
>Thanks
>
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Hi!
I am rather new to pine. Since I am using a commerical server, I only
get limited on-line time. Does anyone know if there is a way to
pre-compose messages offline (using a text editor) and then import them
to pine? It would save a lot of my on-line time.
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I am sending e-mail to Indonesia, and the connection is questionable, so
is there a way to get a return receipt on mail so that I know it got there?
TIA
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On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Dave Saville wrote:
> Date: Thu, 9 FEB 1995 12:39:59 +0000
> From: Dave Saville <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Re: No Threading?
>
> On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote:
>
> >
> > Pine does not quite have threading, but the OreeredSubject sort gets close...
> >
> I have never got the hang of the difference between sort by subject and
> ordered subject - can someone enlighten me please?
>
> David C. Saville
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Subject: How to make Pine show headers and exit?
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When I login I would like to have Pine 3.91 display the header list of my
current mail then exit automaticly. How can this be done?
I can easily enter the index and see the headers using -i, but it will not
exit on its own. If I try the inputed characters feature like so: -Ii,q
to force it to go to the index page and then quit it will pop up a
message saying its processing the 'keystokes' and then quits. The header
list in the index page *never* gets displayed. Trying variations like
'-i -Iq' didnt work either.
So how can I get the mail header list displayed and have it exit on its own?
I'm trying to use this in my .login script using tcsh.
Thanks for your help!
George S.
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I've tried the various configurations, but nothing works.
I would love to be able to print my mail on paper... but how?
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On 4 Feb 1995, sound wrote:
> Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or
> Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the
> list. Thank you.
>
While in the header, type ^r (rich header) and use the Bcc field. Send
the message to yourself using an alias that will help you keep track of
who gets what. Since I usually do this when I send messages to students,
I use the course number as the nickname, the course name and term date as
the full name, and my address as the address. Such an alias makes record
keeping a bit easier.
Jace
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How about: cat /usr/spool/mail/geos |grep ^From |page
Should do the trick, and should also be a lot faster than loading up Pine
just to see what new mail you have! Oh, if you want to see the subject, you
could always use:
cat /usr/spool/mail/geos |egrep '^From|^Subject' |page
___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector!
/ __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail:
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On 10 Feb 1995, George Stephens wrote:
> When I login I would like to have Pine 3.91 display the header list of my
> current mail then exit automaticly. How can this be done?
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On 10 Feb 1995, Seif Zadeh Hossein wrote:
> Hi there,
> Is anybody know how to get THE filter to use multiple rules on one mail?
> Maybe I should explain what I mean... I want filter to forward an
> incoming mail AND save it in a folder, according to the from section of
> the mail.
> I understand that I need to get filter to run a script and get the script
> to do what I just explained; but, does anybody know how to write the
> bloody script?
By "THE" filter I suspect you mean 'filter' from elm. Well, you
can't have that with the elm filter. You need to switch to procmail.
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LAURA DELUCIA (
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: I am trying to enable incoming folders so that all the mail I receive from
: various machines will come to just one machine (I also don't have any mail
: filtering programs, and use the different accounts for primitive
: filtering).
: I "enabled incoming folders" with the config program, and then tried to
: "Add" a new incoming folder. When it asked me what server my other inbox
: is at, I typed in ca0286, or on another attempt, the more complete address
: of ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov. Then, although I wasn't sure exactly what it
: was looking for when it wanted the name of the folder my incoming mail
: would be at, I typed in /var/spool/mail/ldelucia (the default file for
: sendmail). However, Pine came back with "Can't connect to server
: ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov,143:" Connection refused, and Can't access server.
You'll need imapd on those machines. I think what you should do is to
forward all mail to this machine and get procmail. Easy to setup, no need
to be root to install.
Regards,
Supak Lailert
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Is pine available via anonymous ftp for x windows?
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There was a dumb little mistake in my "wpine" script: it had an absolute
path when it called pine which is not necessary.
Originally I had called the script "pine" and put it higher in the path
than the binary pine, so I had to call it explicitly. But my system
remembers the last place it executes a file from, so the first time I
invoked "pine" I got the script, but the second time I got the binary.
So I just renamed my script "wpine" but forgot to take out the absolute path.
It's easy to edit the script, but I thought I'd repost them.
--- Knute Snortum Internet:
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From: Thomas Unger <
[email protected]>
To: Veli Pajula <
[email protected]>
Cc:
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Subject: Re: Win_Pine 3.90 and GPF
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A while ago you reported getting a GPF in pine. I'm trying to track down
this bug and am looking for people who can reproduce it and would be
willing to run a test and send me the result.
If so, please download a new test version of pine in
ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/Private/pine0207.zip
(You won't be able to read the list of lines in Private, but if you cd
there you will be able to get pine0207.zip by name).
Run this with Dr Watson and send me the resulting log. You should find Dr
Watson in your windows directory called drwatson.exe. Run drwatson first,
then pine. When pine produces a GPF, Dr Watson will ask you to describe
what you were doing. Then, find the report in drwatson.log and mail
it to me.
Thanks,
Thomas Unger
Networks and Distributed Computing
University of Washington, Seattle
On 28 Sep 1994, Veli Pajula wrote:
>
> Hi !
>
> When I try run winsock version of Pine I got GPF
> in module PINE.EXE at 000D:D677.
>
> What could be wrong ?
>
> Unix version working...
>
> Thanks
> --
> Veli Pajula
> email:
[email protected] or
[email protected]
>
>
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Subject: Re: Full Domain Name in 'From:' field
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FWIW, I ended up doing a "gross kludge" on this. The routine that sets
the return addresses in pine (for both mail and news) is getdomainnames(),
defined in the file pine/osdep/domnames. The original function checks to
see if there is a local domain name attached to the host name, but if there
isn't it simply uses the hostname as both the FQDN and the local domain
name. I solved this by tacking on local domain name onto the hostname.
This is the only "simple" solution I could see (there's probably a preferred
way to get the full domain name from someplace other that gethostname(), but
I don't know what it is). What pine could do is allow the user to define
a constant set to the local domain and put the code below in an #ifdef-#endif
Anyway, here is the diff (replace "uccs.edu" with your local domain name):
pine/osdep/domnames
47c47,48
< strncpy(domainname, hostname, dsize-1);
---
> strcat(hostname, ".uccs.edu");
> strcpy(domainname, "uccs.edu");
--
hal render
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R.G. (
[email protected]) wrote:
: I would like to know if PINE 3.91 has the capability to request a return
: receipt from the person that the message is addressed to. It would be
: nice to receive some sort of acknowledgement that your message did reach
: its destination. If anybody knows of how we would be able to do this,
: please inform. Thank you.
In the Pine settings for optional headers, add the undocumented sendmail
header 'Return-Receipt-To' and use the ^R command in the message
header area and insert your address there. I recommend *not* setting any
value in the header; otherwise next time you write to a mailing list you
will receive hundreds of return receipts.
This is not an "official" header under the RFCs but many mailing systems
do honor it, same as the 'Errors-To:' header which is also non-standard.
--
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sound (
[email protected]) wrote:
> Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or
> Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the
> list. Thank you.
Hit ^R while in the header for 'Rich Header'. This will
give you about 4 more fields in the header. You want to
use the Bcc field (bliind carbon copy). It'll do exactly
what you're looking for. But, you'll still have to use
one address at the top of the message. I usually just
send the message to myself and have my mailing list in
the Bcc field...
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Is it possible to use ispell as a replacement for spell (within pine/pico)?
If so, what options are best? If not, where can I ftp a
copy of spell please?? Thanks in advance!!!
- Andy
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This wouldn't be like having a "real" OS/2 version of Pine, but as a
second-best: how difficult would it be to compile a version of PC-Pine that
ran with IBM's TCP/IP for DOS 2.1? That would allow it to run in an
OS/2 DOS window using either the internet access kit in Warp, or the
DOS/Windows access kit for OS/2 2.1.
Lacking an OS/2 Pine, I'd rather run a DOS app than load Windows just to
read mail. And, if I'm going to use a DOS version, I'd rather it use OS/2's
TCP/IP stack since it's already available.
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From: Thomas Unger <
[email protected]>
To: "D.Buitenhek" <
[email protected]>
Cc:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Gen. Prot. Fault with Pine
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A while ago you reported getting a GPF in pine. I'm trying to track down
this bug and am looking for people who can reproduce it and would be
willing to run a test and send me the result.
If so, please download a new test version of pine in
ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/Private/pine0207.zip
(You won't be able to read the list of lines in Private, but if you cd
there you will be able to get pine0207.zip by name).
Run this with Dr Watson and send me the resulting log. You should find Dr
Watson in your windows directory called drwatson.exe. Run drwatson first,
then pine. When pine produces a GPF, Dr Watson will ask you to describe
what you were doing. Then, find the report in drwatson.log and mail
it to me.
Thanks,
Thomas Unger
Networks and Distributed Computing
University of Washington, Seattle
On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, D.Buitenhek wrote:
> I have installed PINE 3.91 on a my PC. Sometimes it is possible to start PINE
> but mostly it stops after input of my passwd.
> The error message is "Pine Caused a General Protection Fault in the module
> PINE.EXE at 0008:B600.
> The same error exist when I start to config PINE from PIne]
>
> Is there a solution for this problem?
>
> D. Buitenhek
>
>
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> University of Delft
> Department Mechanical Engeneering
>
>
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On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote:
> I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking
> letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it
> was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters
> (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help
> would be appreciated. Please email
Yes it IS possible to put escape sequences into almost anything. The
question is if one SHOULD. Most often they only work for a certain
combination of software & hardware. Sending an odd escape sequence to an
unknown setup could screw their session window or worse. Of course it
MIGHT actually work. Not advised practice.
David C. Saville
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From: helen ruth etters <
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Subject: Help forwarding addresses
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 23:27:30 -0500
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I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the
email addresses of all the students who major in our department.
I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his
having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this
addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without
having to retype it?
Thanks.
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On 9 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote:
> Thanks for all the input when I asked about threading. The sort by order
> really makes a difference. Last question on this: Upon leaving a
> newsgroup, that feature is lost. Is there a way of retaining the sorting
> as a permanent feature?
>
Yes and no. You can select sort order in your configuration setup but
that also affects your mail sort order. The option for seperate sort
defaults for mail & news is on the pine teams todo maybe list.
David C. Saville
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Subject: Re: Autoresponses to incoming email? help!
Date: 10 Feb 1995 15:30:55 GMT
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Wet-Sprocket <
[email protected]> wrote:
>Comes here Mr. John Cobarruvias with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group
>in this article on 8 Feb 1995 21:11:45 GMT:
> + I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of
> + auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ"
> + in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a
> + file to the sender.
> + I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon
> + the sender or subject.
>Procmail is your answer. Subscribe to the procmail mailing list for more info.
>"
[email protected]"
That's actually the wrong address.
Send your subscription requests to either:
[email protected]
or
[email protected] (for the digested version)
--
Sincerely,
[email protected]
Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless).
This is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?
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Sherry H. Lake (
[email protected]) wrote:
: Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0
: Pine 3.91
: Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine
: processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU.
This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This
problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines.
I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the
problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh.
Any info would be *greatly* appericiated!
--
______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Holstead University of Alberta
[email protected] Computer and Network Services
Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group
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C A N A D A
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Howdy! Is there a list of pico commands available?
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: Suggestion for Option re: newsgroups in Pine
Date: 10 Feb 1995 14:10:10 GMT
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I would like to suggest a new option be added to Pine to allow someone to
select the option to automatically "delete" a message when the mailbox they
are reading is a newsgroup. This would then automatically update their
newsrc file. One would not have to remember to delete articles in order
to add them to the "read" list.
To be compatible with current pine, the option should default to off, so
that people who want this feature would have to turn it on.
It might be worthwhile to do it this way: if someone upgrades a config
file as a result of the automatic upgrade when their system changes to a
new version of Pine, then it should leave the flag defaulted to off; new
users who have no config file would default to on. Either that, or
inform upgrading users that the option will automatically be set to on and
they should disable it if they do not want this feature, the way Pine
informs them on the first time they use it during a month and asks if they
want to move the current saved mail folder to the name of the previous month.
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Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine?
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:47:27 -0800
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Some myths need to be dispelled here.
On 7 Feb 1995, Charles Cooley wrote:
> [NOOPs] also use network bandwidth, which is a precious resource at some
> sites.
A TCP/IP datagram containing a NOOP is 86 bytes. 86 bytes transmitted
once every several minutes is not a "precious resource" unless you're
using 300 baud modems.
This is way down in the noise of bandwidth.
> Every ACTIVE connection eats away at system
> resources, and server administrators take that fact into account when setting
> system parameters like timeout value.
This is a myth which the designers of TCP and TCP software (especially
Phil Karn of KA9Q fame) have tried for years to debunk.
By "active connection" you presumably mean "open connection", not
"connection actively transferring data" -- inactivity timers have no
effect upon the latter and thus it makes no sense to profer it as a
solution to the latter "eating away at system resources". Open but
inactive TCP connections do not "eat away at system resources". TCBs are
not finite resources.
A lot more harm than good comes about by server administrators who play
around with server timeout values without understanding the underlying
mechanisms involved. The purpose of server timeouts is to garbage collect
abandoned connections from PCs/Macs which were dropped without a reset,
since otherwise the PC will try to reuse the same port after rebooting and
find it can't get in. They are otherwise to be avoided at all cost.
> You noted that NNTP is different
> than other protocols because it doesn't have a NOOP command. You assumed that
> it was an omission through error, but perhaps it was a design decision. (I don't
> know which is true.)
Reinventing history is always fun, but I'd rather not do it here. The
NNTP protocol as specified in RFC-977 has a huge number of omissions. In
fact, RFC-977 doesn't even specify the protocol that is actually in use.
It is never wise to assume intent when error is a plausible explanation.
> Again, consider "reconnection" as an alternative to timeout suppression.
I fear that it will probably be about the time that hell freezes over that
I will finish the long list of tasks to make things work that currently
don't work (IMAP4 and IMSP loom high on this ever-growing list), and will
have the luxury to go back and redo things that do work.
On the other hand, we provide source code. If this is so important to
you, why don't you write the code?
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|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On 7 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote:
> Date: 7 FEB 1995 00:07:59 GMT
> From: Wet-Sprocket <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List
>
> David L. Miller writes:
>
> + You can specify aliases for the incoming folders in the Setup/Config
> + screen. Here are some examples:
>
> + incoming-folders=Beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth,
> + dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw,
> + "S.P." /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp,
> + "This is the 'DS' folder" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds,
> + "Not Piglet" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet
>
> While this is very useful, is there way to activate Pine's newmail notifier
> to notify as soon as there's new mail in anyone of these folders other than
> the standard INBOX.
>
> As my incoming-folders includes INBOX of the localhost as well as other hosts
> either via pop3 or imap.
>
> Many Thanks.
>
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On 6 Feb 1995, Marshall C. Yount wrote:
> Date: 6 FEB 1995 22:45:34 GMT
> From: Marshall C. Yount <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Pine for ignorant knaves
>
> (apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere, I couldn't find one)
>
> I am attempting to assemble a list of resources (essentially a stack of
> manuals) for new 'Net users at my school. While I can usually find what
> I want in a man page, the people I am putting this together for are
> pretty inexperienced with computers and rather frightened of Unix, in
> particular. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find some
> simple, easy to read/understand/decypher documents/manuals about Pine (or
> using FTP, WWW, Gopher, Archie, UseNet etc.).
>
> Anyway, if someone could help me find such a file (if it exists), I would
> be eternally grateful (well, maybe not *eternally*, but at least for five
> minutes)...
>
> Thanks
>
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Hello all,
I suppose that you know about TIA, if not you could probably help me as well.
TIA is a SLIP emulation Software which tell's the rest of the net that you
are working on your UNIX host Computer and not on your own, that's why reply
mail won't work. E.g. on my host I can be called like
[email protected].
And now the Question:
It's a simple one, how can I get tia to send mail with another address in
the from Line than mine? BTW This has to run on my system only I do have root
privilegues if necessary.
Thanks for hints
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Is there a way that I can get pine on disk? I have a SCO Unix net and I
currently have no Internet access and I want to use it internally. I know
the files are big and I'm not sure how to put them on disk myself..
...joe...
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There is an item on our to-do list that would allow you to save a marked
section of a message...
Thanks for the suggestion!
--DLM
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On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Penio Penev wrote:
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:10:40 GMT
> From: Penio Penev <
[email protected]>
> To:
[email protected],
> Pine Developers <
[email protected]>
> Subject: Bug (ID A0001): Suggestion: Edit the text of incomming messages
>
> From time to time one receives a non-attached document in the body of the
> message and some kind of explanation in the beginning. It would be great
> to have means of automating the vieing of the document in this case.
>
> For example, if I have received a *TeX file with some comments, I would
> like to, say, press E)dit while viewing, which will take me to the
> editor, cut the actual *TeX lines and save them in a file from the
> editor. This could be done with or without saving the modifications to
> the text of the message.
>
> --
> Penio Penev <
[email protected]> 1-212-327-7423
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> I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in
> pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know
> about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing?
Firstly, I'd ask the question, "Why are you being mail bombed?". Then, I
would suggest that you report the person that is doing it to their system
administrator. If you set your .forward file to pipe your mail into a
program such as "filter" (from the Elm distribution), you could bounce
such mail from a specific person back to them.
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You should see your signature file appear automatically if it is saved in
your home directory with the name, ".signature".
I often find it more useful to only insert signature files selectively,
so I created a couple of signature files with names like cpc.sig and
omb.sig. Those aren't appended to messages automatically, but I can
insert them whenever I want, as I'll do in a moment, by using ^R to read
in a file. I keep those *.sig files in my home directory.
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Kolsam Mel Keo (
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: Hi,
: How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my
: .signature file appends at the bottom?
: Please reply me. Thanks.
: Mel
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I've had reasonably good success (not universal) with Wincode, usually
found on FTP sites as WNCODxxx.zip. You may have to go into the option
settings to turn off automatic detection of file type, then manually
specify Base64 decoding, which is what MIME uses.
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: it on my pc using 'munpack' that I got from an ftp site at Carnegie Mellon
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> Pico can only read lines of 256 or less characters. It can create lines
> of any (?) length though...
Is this likely to be changed? Many people (including myself) use Pico as
as an editor to go with Tin, to provide a consistent editing environment
between news and mail. When following up to an article in a long thread,
the References: header can get rather long, and Pico happily wraps it
when the article is loaded in, meaning the two lines have to be manually
joined to prevent all the headers getting messed up.
Surely if it can create longer lines while editing, it can't be that
difficult to make it load them, too...?
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From: Terry Gray <
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Cc:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes
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Steve,
On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their
shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild? Or does it happen with tcsh even if
you are not disconnected?
In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem
on OSF?
-teg
On 10 Feb 1995, Steve Holstead wrote:
> Sherry H. Lake (
[email protected]) wrote:
> : Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0
> : Pine 3.91
>
> : Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine
> : processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU.
>
> This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This
> problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines.
>
> I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the
> problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh.
>
> Any info would be *greatly* appericiated!
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Steve Holstead University of Alberta
>
[email protected] Computer and Network Services
> Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group
> Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building
> Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1
> C A N A D A
>
>
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My news postings are going out without the full address... instead of
[email protected], or
[email protected], they are posting with
[email protected]
Anybody have any clues on how to resolve this?
I'm running Pine 3.91 on an SCO Unix (3.2.4.2) box.
Thanks.
============================================================================
Bill Hudson; System Administrator; Robert Mann Packaging INC, Gilroy, CA USA
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
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Subject: Re: 2 msgs concerning domain name problems
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Hal and Bill,
Both your messages leave me wondering if Pine's "user-domain" variable is
not working for you, or if you simply haven't tried it. It should certainly
not be necessary to change any code to set whatever domain name you want!
-teg
p.s for Hal: a common reason for gethostname to return the wrong (short)
version is that the names are in the wrong order in the /etc/hosts file.
I believe the FQDN should be first.
On 11 Feb 1995, Hal Render wrote:
> FWIW, I ended up doing a "gross kludge" on this. The routine that sets
> the return addresses in pine (for both mail and news) is getdomainnames(),
> defined in the file pine/osdep/domnames. The original function checks to
> see if there is a local domain name attached to the host name, but if there
> isn't it simply uses the hostname as both the FQDN and the local domain
> name. I solved this by tacking on local domain name onto the hostname.
> This is the only "simple" solution I could see (there's probably a preferred
> way to get the full domain name from someplace other that gethostname(), but
> I don't know what it is). What pine could do is allow the user to define
> a constant set to the local domain and put the code below in an #ifdef-#endif
>
> Anyway, here is the diff (replace "uccs.edu" with your local domain name):
>
> pine/osdep/domnames
> 47c47,48
> < strncpy(domainname, hostname, dsize-1);
> ---
> > strcat(hostname, ".uccs.edu");
> > strcpy(domainname, "uccs.edu");
> --
> hal render
> univ. of colorado at colorado springs
>
[email protected]
>
On Fri, 10 Feb 1995, Bill Hudson wrote:
>
> My news postings are going out without the full address... instead of
>
[email protected], or
[email protected], they are posting with
[email protected]
>
> Anybody have any clues on how to resolve this?
>
> I'm running Pine 3.91 on an SCO Unix (3.2.4.2) box.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ============================================================================
> Bill Hudson; System Administrator; Robert Mann Packaging INC, Gilroy, CA USA
>
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
> Tel: 1.408.848.5440 Fax: 1.408.848.2063
>
>
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Craig S. Barnhill <
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>I'm looking for a way to print to a local printer from a unix
>workstation (via LPTx) and over a modem. The Pine ansi-print
>works great but I want something for the command line.
I think this only works on text files, but there is a file called
`ansiprt.c' that comes with the pine source at:
ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/pine.tar.Z
Get that file, uncompress and untar it (do it on a temp drive or check
your disk quota first). Then you'll find ansiprt.c in:
./pine3.91/contrib/utils/ansiprt.c
(assuming you're currently in the directory you untar'd from).
Compile it, and then delete everything else. It will print what it gets
on standard input on your attached-to-ansi printer.
% ansiprt < file.to.print
To be able to use command line arguments (e.g. `ansiprt file.to.print'),
in csh:
% alias ansiprt 'cat \!* | \ansiprt'
(Followups directed to comp.mail.pine)
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950210111345.4442E-100000@nuthatch>,
Dave Saville <
[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote:
>
>> I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking
>> letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it
>> was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters
>> (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help
>> would be appreciated. Please email
>
>Yes it IS possible to put escape sequences into almost anything. The
>question is if one SHOULD. Most often they only work for a certain
>combination of software & hardware. Sending an odd escape sequence to an
>unknown setup could screw their session window or worse. Of course it
>MIGHT actually work. Not advised practice.
>
>David C. Saville
[email protected]
I agree that it is probably not a great idea, but it is an interesting
question. How Do you put the escape sequences into PINE. Is it editor
dependent? I believe our system uses PICO
Thanks
Jack Dean
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I have successfully compiled pine under SCO Unix 3.2v4.2.
How do i disable the newsreader function completely?
We do not and will not use it.
Do I HAVE to go back to an older version?
Is it better if I go back to an older version because it will be smaller and faster?
Can I leave out the newsreader part during the compile?
Thanks in advance
Kevin F. Davies
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How can I setup the following in PINERC to get PC Pine use the
addressbook and .signature file on the UNIX end?
address-book={mail.iohk.com}.addressbook
signature-file={mail.iohk.com}.signature
both of the above didn't work in my case.
Regards
Samson
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Unfortunately, my system has all the news groups that I can get in the news collection. How can I clean it out so it only has the say 10 groups I want. It really slows down my system and if makes it very difficult to post messages thru pine since it must select the group and show all 4 million messages before I can post. Any suggestions.
Noble
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I HAVE to set up sendmail over UUCP.
I *think I have the UUCP setup ok. Well, I can connect and the script works.
I am using SCO's flavour of sendmail and I hear this sendmail v8 is pretty damn
good. I'll do anything for GOOD documentation *gasp*.
You see, I got thrown in the deep end and for the past week I have been drowning.
I was told "please hook us up to the Internet. Thankyou!". Well MMDF looked like
the horror story that it is. And the mail program leaves a lot to be desired *yuk*. So
I blithly said nothing and away I went.... Boss won't pay the money for a professional!
On the first day.... :-)
"What is MMDF?" (Mutant Mungrel Damaged Forwarder?)
"UUCP" oh... I see... ahh connected! WRONG HOSTNAME?
"Changed host name... oops Lotus won't run and no-one can print!"
On the second day... ;-)
"MMDF - I thought channel was a perfume?"
"New activation key from Lotus and printing fixed!"
"Oh I need to get Pine... ahh! PPP over TCP/IP!"
On the third day ....:-|
"PPP ... DNS won't work!"
"PPP doesn't work! oh, need upgrade AND patch"
"Hmmm I DO NOT want to use named!"
"Discovered /usr/lib/uucp/uuinstall, hmmm that's a lot easier"
On the fourth day .... :-(
"Umm why DNS not working? ahh resolv.conf GOD I HATE UNIX!"
"Oh! upgrade TCP/IP and patch! NOW it WORKS, got pine"
"pine man pages? troff/nroff/tbl? You have to BUY THESE EXTRA?"
"Pine uses SENDMAIL? Pine needs libcrypt.a????"
"AhHA! got the crypt lib but its called libcrypt_i.a! hmm: ln libcrypt_i.a libcrypt.a"
"Activated sendmail byebye MMDF good!"
On the fifth day ... :-O -> #@%^#$!!
"Compiled gzip, zip, unzip, where do I get troff/nroff/tbl??? gnu version requires c++!"
"Pine keeps activating the PPP link. I can't have that!"
"Pine is sending mail but to where????"
"Ahhh crontab for UUCPing .... where does sendmail put its stuff?"
"Where does UUCP pick up the mail from (directory)?"
NOW... *grin* what a week!
So there you go and that is where I am. PPP has been disabled until I can figure out
a way to implement some security (someone mentioned TCP/IP wrappers (that's next)).
I think I did ok considering I knew NOTHING about the SCO mailing system or serial
TCP/IP. It was a hell of a ride and it still needs finishing. You see, I left the company on
Friday ... my last day. And knowbody there knows a damn thing about it. I will have
to finish it for them but now they will PAY me properly for it.
It isn't quite working as yet but I am very close... UUCP is ok.. need to set up the crontab
entries. Asking around to find out why Pine is activating the PPP link... in fact it won't
start until the link is up and running!
Next ... Get Pine -> sendmail -> uucp running completely.
Install procmail, and tcp/ip wrappers for PPP link (You see i need to have
telnetd and ftpd running for internal network.)
*sigh* still got some work to do but at least I have some idea now.
If you can make any suggestions then please do so. I am committed to using UUCP
for mail at this stage. Please forward this to the appropriate groups/people if
required.
Thankyou sincerely and humbly in advance
Kevin
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Has someone ever tried Pine to set up for MMDF?
I've got the sources and tried it, bit with no luck.
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From: Juliet Lim <juliet@emailhost>
Subject: Mac and PINE
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:17:02 +0700 (GMT+0700)
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I am using a Mac as a terminal with a SLIP (INTERSlip) connection to a UNIX
host. How do I print my e-mail while inside the PINE program? When I
press Y (for PrYnt), the mail is printed on the screen, not on the
attached printer as should be.
Pleae reply by e-mail (if possible) to
[email protected]
Thanks for any response.
Juliet
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Subject: Pine and quitting without saving
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Other than running Pine with the -o option is it possible to quit
without saving?
Why would one like to do this? Well, I like to run pine from home
to look at my mail. Sometimes, it would be nice to save my changes
and sometimes it would be nice to abort them. I would like to abort
my changes after I read my my mail and I have not saved or deleted any
of my messages. But when I quit pine my mail file is altered and the
next day my Sun's mailtool (X based) - which I run because I deal with outside
customers that require Suns mailtool attachments - complains that my
mail file has been altered. At this point I must quit mailtool and
restart it. It would be nice if I could quit without saving. Is this
possible? The only way that I know to get around this is to type ^Z and
kill the process. (Note, Sun's command line mailer allows me to quit without
saving with the "x" command, but it does not have near the flexiblity of
pine.)
I am running pine 3.91 and I did not see any quit with out saving
feature in the manual. If this option is not currently built into pine
it would make a nice enhancement.
Thanks in advance,
Eric Youngquist
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Bob Corbett (
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> ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE (
[email protected]) wrote:
> : How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the
> : help file is not the clearest. Thank yo.
> I have a mailing list. It was quite easy. Once in my mailing list I
> believe Ihit z. Check the list at the bottom. It asked me to name the
> list, which I did as ptp. Then it asked for addresses (not names. Mine
> won't let me put names on addresses).
> Then when I want to mail I merely hit ptp on the send line, at least that
> is what I did early on. Then my list got up to over 100 people and all
> those addresses took up 3 pages.
> So, now when I get ready to mail I mail it to ME. Then I hit
> Conrol R and I get an expanded heading, including a line
> bcc (blind carbon copy). Next I type my ptp on this line and now
> the letter goes out with only one person's name, their own, on each
> of the 100+ letters.
> Hope this helps, bob Corbett
> If it is not clear, write back, I'll try again.
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Subject: UNIX pipes through email aliases
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I know that the UNIX pipe command has been added to allow
pine user the ability to send email messages to UNIX programs/
scripts, but is it possible to send a message to an alias
(aka. address) that is a UNIX pipe? It would be nice to be
able to forward a message to an alias that can process it
similar to pines pipe UNIX capability. The address would look
something like this:
pwr |/users/pdetools/pwr/pwremail
I have tried to forward to this address, but I get an error.
But I can send/forward an email message to the UNIX program
through pines UNIX pipe capabilites.
If this option is not currently built into pine it would
make a nice enhancement.
Thanks in advance,
Eric Youngquist
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>
> Pine does not quite have threading, but the OreeredSubject sort gets close...
>
I have never got the hang of the difference between sort by subject and
ordered subject - can someone enlighten me please?
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How do I setup pine to read news groups? I am completly new to this stuff
and any help would be graetly appreciated (please no flaming a new user).
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Does Pine have any built-in facility to copy address information from the
system's Global Addressbook to a personal address book? Outside of Pine,
I have found that you can grep the global file for the name you want and
append the output to the personal file (.addressbook). Then Pine sees what
was added when you start it. But is there a more direct way? This
method can easily get more than you want, which then has to be deleted.
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I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of
auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ"
in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a
file to the sender.
I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon
the sender or subject.
Any help would be appreciated! Email if possible and I will later post
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|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On 8 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote:
> Date: 8 FEB 1995 22:11:35 GMT
> From: Michele Decker <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: No Threading?
>
> I was comparing Pine to TIN for newreader options. I really like Pine
> because you stay in the same application, (i.e. mail and newsgroups).
> However, the messages in PINE are not threaded, so to find a reply to a
> message, you have to page,page,page to get the replies. Pretty cumbersome.
>
> Is there a way of threading the replies to the original question, as in TIN?
>
> --
> Michele
>
> ****************************************************************************
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>
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>
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>
>
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Comes here Mr. John Cobarruvias with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group
in this article on 8 Feb 1995 21:11:45 GMT:
+ I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of
+ auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ"
+ in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a
+ file to the sender.
+ I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon
+ the sender or subject.
Procmail is your answer. Subscribe to the procmail mailing list for more info.
"
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Comes here Mr. Steve with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this
article on Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:41:09 -0700:
+ Is there a way to mark Usenet messages deleted in Pine?
+ I mean, like from past news reading sessions too?
+ Please reply to the news group, thanks.
;AAD
; Select
A Select All
A Apply
D delete
You need to enable-aggregate-command-set in the Setup/Config screen for this.
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Comes here Mz. Michele Decker with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in
this article on 8 Feb 1995 22:11:35 GMT:
+ I was comparing Pine to TIN for newreader options. I really like Pine
+ because you stay in the same application, (i.e. mail and newsgroups).
+ However, the messages in PINE are not threaded, so to find a reply to a
+ message, you have to page,page,page to get the replies. Pretty cumbersome.
+ Is there a way of threading the replies to the original question, as in TIN?
Have you considered $orting the folder Subject wise?
In addition you could sort it Reverse so that you will see the first
question then the following responses under it. Enjoy!
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Pegasus.
MIME is NOT the same as uuencode.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
0.0 About this Article
... 0.1 Copyright Notice
... 0.2 Acknowledgements
... 0.3 Terminology and Notation
... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article
... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article
... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article
1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders
2.0 Procmail
... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail
... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail
... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe
... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail
... 2.5 Procmail References
3.0 Filter
... 3.1 Setting up Filter
... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail
... 3.3 Filter References
4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders
5.0 Contributing to this FAQ
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:00 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: 0.0 About this Article
Q: How can I have my incoming mail messages automatically put into an
appropriate folder?
This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This article
is the first release of an FAQ that addresses this question. This version
gives basic instructions for how to set up either procmail or Elm's filter
to filter incoming mailing list messages. Future versions of this FAQ will
include instructions for doing other things like automatically replying to
certain messages.
If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use
procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This
recommendation is almost universal; even the Elm and filter developers
recommend procmail over filter.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:10 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 0.1 Copyright Notice
Copyright (c) 1994 by Nancy McGough. No portion of this work may be sold or
put to commercial use without express written consent of the author. This
restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method,
which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the
aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or
redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this
copyright notice is not removed or altered.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:20 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 0.2 Acknowledgements
Thanks to these people who sent suggestions:
David L. Miller <
[email protected]>
Cookie Monster <
[email protected]>
Jim Showalter <
[email protected]>
David W. Tamkin <
[email protected]>
Rick Troxel <
[email protected]>
Stephen R. van den Berg <
[email protected]>
Syd Weinstein <
[email protected]>
Special thanks to:
Thomas A. Fine <
[email protected]> for setting up and
maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations
to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the
Net" award!
Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:30 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation
Term Meaning
==== =======
FTP File Transfer Protocol
HTML HyperText Markup Language
HTTP HyperText Transport Protocol
mailer Mail user agent (MUA) such as Pine or Elm
pico PIne COmposer - friendly editor that's part of the Pine package
RFC Internet "Request For Comments" document
URL Uniform Resource Locator (specified in RFC1630)
^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key,
press the x key
~ Your home directory $HOME (see * below)
* In this article I use ~ (tilde) to mean your home directory. Note that
some shells, such as the Bourne shell (sh), do not understand the tilde
notation so you will need to use $HOME instead. You can always get to
your home directory by typing ``cd''.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:40 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article
If this article is over two months old then there is probably an updated
version of it in all the usual archives. Please get the latest version
from one of these places:
World Wide Web (the nicest format for online reading!):
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html
Anonymous FTP:
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq
Email:
Send mail to
[email protected] containing the following:
send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq
UUCP:
uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:50 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article
The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the
hypertext version using a Web browser such as Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape,
WinWeb, or Cello. This will allow you to easily jump:
* between subjects in this article
* to a Uniform Resource Locator (URL)
* to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC)
* to some manual pages
This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, can be accessed
through:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html
This particular FAQ is at:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:60 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article
If you are reading the plain text version (i.e., not the hypertext version) of
this FAQ it is in RFC1153 digest format which means each subject is formatted
as a mini mail message with its own Date, From, and Subject (and sometimes
Followup-To) headers. Some newsreaders and mailers make it really easy
to jump to a subject in an article that is in digest format. Here are
instruction for some newsreaders:
* NN's default is to split a digest and present each digest item on the
menu. If you have changed the default by putting ``set split off'' in
your ~/.nn/init file then you can split an article that is in digest
format by typing G% while viewing it. This will present each digest item
on a submenu. You can then read, followup-to, save, print, etc. individual
digest items.
* In trn (and its relatives like rn and strn) you can type ^g (Ctrl key
and g key pressed together) to skip to the next line that begins with
"Subject: "
* In emacs GNUS, C-c C-n will skip to the next digest article (C-C C-p will
go back to the previous digest article).
If your newsreader or mailer does not have a built-in command that allows
you to easily read a digest you can pipe the article to ``formail -ds''
which will split the article into separate mail messages, and then you can
use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders) to read the
folder. For example, here's what you would do in Tin while viewing
the article:
Type... In order to...
------- --------------
| Pipe
a Specify the article is to be piped
formail -ds >> ~/mail/faq.split Split the digest into individual
messages and put them in a file named
~/mail/faq.split. (Replace ~/mail
with your folder directory.)
pine -if faq.split Use Pine to read the newly created folder.
For more information see the formail(1) man pages.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:01:00 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders
For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with ``IN''.
For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a
folder named IN.procmail. I do this so that when all my folders
are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and
near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive
and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii
sort.
Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:00 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: 2.0 Procmail
Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your
mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder.
This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up procmail to
filter incoming mailing list messages.
To find out how to process existing mail folders see the NOTES section
of the procmail(1) man page.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:10 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail
1] Find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is.
If you are using csh type:
which procmail
Or if you are using sh or ksh type:
type procmail
If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``whereis'' and
``where''. If your system doesn't have procmail ask your system
administrator to install it. If your sys admin isn't able to do this,
use a different mail processor like deliver, mailagent, or filter
(described in part 2 of this FAQ).
2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. (Note that throughout this article I use
pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.)
cd
pico .procmailrc
2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc.
Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by
procmail.
#Set on when debugging
VERBOSE=off
#Replace ``mail'' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail)
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
#Directory for storing procmail log and rc files
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders
3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files
(this is $PMDIR that you set above).
cd
mkdir .procmail
4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing:
cd
cd .procmail
pico rc.test
4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.test:
:0:
* ^Subject: .*test
IN.testing
Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh".
For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is
explained in the subject "Explanation of Test Recipe" below.
5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells
pico not to auto wrap lines.)
cd
pico -w .forward
5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward:
"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym"
== IMPORTANT NOTES ==
* Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single (').
* The vertical bar (|) is a pipe.
* Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1).
* Replace ``nancym'' with your userid. You need to put your userid in
your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file
on your system.
* Do NOT use environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file.
* Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file: If
procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path.
5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward world
readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the
mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type:
cd
chmod 644 .forward
chmod a+x .
6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject
and one without ``test'' in the subject.
7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages
were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject
should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without
``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were
delivered correctly go on to step 8.
7b] TROUBLESHOOTING
* If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your
$LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what
the problem is.
* Check these three files for typos:
~/.forward
~/.procmailrc
~/.procmail/rc.test
* Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in
5c above).
Type... In order to...
------- --------------
cd Go to your home directory.
ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r--
ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x
The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e.,
drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x).
* If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so
that it contains:
VERBOSE=on
And repeat steps 6 and 7. If you are still having problems see the
subject "Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail" below.
8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create
rc.folders for filtering incoming messages into mail folders.
cd
cd .procmail
pico rc.folders
8b] Enter a modified version of the following in ~/.procmail/rc.folders
:0:
* ^TOwww-talk
IN.www-talk
:0:
* ^TOprocmail
IN.procmail
The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe
filters the procmail mailing lists The meaning of the first recipe is
as follows:
Notation Meaning
======== =======
:0 Begin a recipe
: Use a lock file
* Begin a condition
^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the
beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters,
followed by....
www-talk ``www-talk''
IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk
Create a recipe for each of your mailing lists. Make sure that you
use ``^TO'' with no space between the caret (^) and the word ``TO'',
and that both letters are capitalized -- if you don't it won't work.
Note that ^TO is not a normal regular expression. It is a special
procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination
specification. See the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5)
man page for details. For examples, see procmailex(5) man page.
9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working.
10] Comment out the rc.test line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks
like this:
VERBOSE=off
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log
# INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders
Note that it's useful to leave the rc.test line there for future testing.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:20 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail
There is a useful script, which is part of the procmail package, for
checking your procmail log file called mailstat. Check to see if it is
on your system by typing either ``which mailstat'' or ``type mailstat''.
If it's on your system type:
mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log
This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log
file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that
each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've
received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these
messages were delivered to.
You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag:
mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log
If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to
install it. It is located with all the other procmail tools at:
ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:30 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe
The recipe we used for testing is:
:0:
* ^Subject: .*test
IN.testing
The meaning of this recipe is:
Notation Meaning
======== =======
:0 Begin a recipe
: Use a lock file
* Begin a condition
^ Match the beginning of a line followed by....
Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by....
. a space followed by any character (.) followed by....
* 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this
case) followed by....
test ``test''
IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:40 GMT
From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail
If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives
might be helpful:
In a perfect world:
"|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym"
In an almost perfect world:
"|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym"
In another world:
"|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym"
In a different world:
"|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym"
In a smrsh world:
"|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym"
These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can
be tried as |" instead, or vice versa.
Some systems do not need a .forward file (i.e., having a .procmailrc file
suffices if procmail already is the local delivery agent).
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:50 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 2.5 Procmail References
Manuals: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor
procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file
procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples
procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique
egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses
egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of
its own expressions like ^TO)
formail(1) - mail reformatter
sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet
Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc
Mailing List:
[email protected]
Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail:
To:
[email protected]
Subject: subscribe
Procmail Archives:
Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by
sending mail:
To:
[email protected]
Subject: archive ls
Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll
need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it):
To:
[email protected]
Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list*
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:00 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: 3.0 Filter
Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter
to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail.
IMPORTANT NOTE
==============
If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use
procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This
recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter
recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES
WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:10 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 3.1 Setting up Filter
Followup-To: comp.mail.elm
1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is.
If you are using the C shell (csh) type:
which filter
Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type:
type filter
If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and
``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system
administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail.
2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing:
cd
pwd
3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use
pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.)
cd
mkdir .elm
cd .elm
pico filter-rules
3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules
if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing"
Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2).
Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are
stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses
/Mail (upper case M).
4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix
prompt:
filter -r
5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells
pico not to auto wrap lines.)
cd
pico -w .forward
5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward:
"|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors"
== IMPORTANT NOTES ==
* Make sure you include the quotes (").
* The vertical bar (|) is a pipe.
* Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1).
* Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2).
* Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your
.forward file.
* Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file.
5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world
readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the
mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type:
cd
chmod 644 .forward
chmod a+x .
6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject
and one without ``test'' in the subject.
7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages
were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject
should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test''
in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered
correctly go on to step 8.
7b] TROUBLESHOOTING
* If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your
~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem
is.
* Check these two files for typos:
~/.forward
~/.elm/filter-rules
* Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in
5c above).
Type... In order to...
------- --------------
cd Go to your home directory.
ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r--
ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x
The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e.,
drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x).
* If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so
that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag).
"|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors"
And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you
will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''.
8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit
~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the
following:
# if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing"
if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk"
if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos"
Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and
/Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing
list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder
(e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists.
Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains...
Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it
into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily
use it for future testing.
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:20 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail
Followup-To: comp.mail.elm
You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing:
filter -s
For a longer summary type:
filter -S
Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog.
You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things
are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you
log in by putting the following in your .login:
tail ~/.elm/filter-errors
Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so
they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and
clear it type:
filter -cs
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:30 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: ... 3.3 Filter References
Followup-To: comp.mail.elm
Web Page:
http://www.myxa.com/elm.html
FAQs:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html
Manual: filter(1)
Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:04:00 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders
To read an incoming mail folder use your mailer or newsreader (if it
can read mail folders). For more information see documentation for your
mailer or newsreader. Here are some pointers.
PINE
====
FAQ:
http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq
Manual: pine(1)
Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list)
Mailing List:
[email protected] (linked to Pine newsgroup)
Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to:
[email protected]
With...
subscribe pine-info
in the body of the message.
ELM
===
Web Page:
http://www.myxa.com/elm.html
FAQs:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html
Manual: elm(1)
Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm
Emacs Mail Mode
===============
Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html
MH
==
FAQ:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html
Manual: mh(1)
Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh
MAIL
====
Manual: mail(1)
Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc
NN
==
FAQ:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html
Manual: nn(1)
Newsgroup: news.software.nn
(Does anyone know if nn uses lock files? Is there any problem using nn
to read a mail folder that is receiving mail? Please let me know!)
(Also, please let me know what other newsreaders can read mail folders?)
------------------------------
Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:05:00 GMT
From: Nancy McGough <
[email protected]>
Subject: 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ
If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute
to this FAQ please send them to me at
[email protected]. If you are reading this
with a viewer that understands the following URL you can use it to send me
mail: mailto:
[email protected]
Between official releases of this FAQ the plain text (ascii) version of
the most up to date version of it is at:
ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail_faq
End of Filtering Mail Digest
****************************
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From: "Michael J. Corrigan" <
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sendmail v8 will bring up the PPP link unless you compile
with -DNAMED_BIND=0.
get c++ to compile gnu troff by getting gnu gcc and the extra g++
part.
> I HAVE to set up sendmail over UUCP.
> I *think I have the UUCP setup ok. Well, I can connect and the script works.
> I am using SCO's flavour of sendmail and I hear this sendmail v8 is pretty da
mn
> good. I'll do anything for GOOD documentation *gasp*.
>
> You see, I got thrown in the deep end and for the past week I have been drown
ing.
> I was told "please hook us up to the Internet. Thankyou!". Well MMDF looked l
ike
> the horror story that it is. And the mail program leaves a lot to be desired
*yuk*. So
> I blithly said nothing and away I went.... Boss won't pay the money for a pro
fessional!
>
> On the first day.... :-)
> "What is MMDF?" (Mutant Mungrel Damaged Forwarder?)
> "UUCP" oh... I see... ahh connected! WRONG HOSTNAME?
> "Changed host name... oops Lotus won't run and no-one can print!"
>
> On the second day... ;-)
> "MMDF - I thought channel was a perfume?"
> "New activation key from Lotus and printing fixed!"
> "Oh I need to get Pine... ahh! PPP over TCP/IP!"
>
> On the third day ....:-|
> "PPP ... DNS won't work!"
> "PPP doesn't work! oh, need upgrade AND patch"
> "Hmmm I DO NOT want to use named!"
> "Discovered /usr/lib/uucp/uuinstall, hmmm that's a lot easier"
>
> On the fourth day .... :-(
> "Umm why DNS not working? ahh resolv.conf GOD I HATE UNIX!"
> "Oh! upgrade TCP/IP and patch! NOW it WORKS, got pine"
> "pine man pages? troff/nroff/tbl? You have to BUY THESE EXTRA?"
> "Pine uses SENDMAIL? Pine needs libcrypt.a????"
> "AhHA! got the crypt lib but its called libcrypt_i.a! hmm: ln libcrypt_i.a li
bcrypt.a"
> "Activated sendmail byebye MMDF good!"
>
> On the fifth day ... :-O -> #@%^#$!!
> "Compiled gzip, zip, unzip, where do I get troff/nroff/tbl??? gnu version req
uires c++!"
> "Pine keeps activating the PPP link. I can't have that!"
> "Pine is sending mail but to where????"
> "Ahhh crontab for UUCPing .... where does sendmail put its stuff?"
> "Where does UUCP pick up the mail from (directory)?"
>
> NOW... *grin* what a week!
> So there you go and that is where I am. PPP has been disabled until I can fig
ure out
> a way to implement some security (someone mentioned TCP/IP wrappers (that's n
ext)).
> I think I did ok considering I knew NOTHING about the SCO mailing system or s
erial
> TCP/IP. It was a hell of a ride and it still needs finishing. You see, I left
the company on
> Friday ... my last day. And knowbody there knows a damn thing about it. I wil
l have
> to finish it for them but now they will PAY me properly for it.
>
> It isn't quite working as yet but I am very close... UUCP is ok.. need to set
up the crontab
> entries. Asking around to find out why Pine is activating the PPP link... in
fact it won't
> start until the link is up and running!
> Next ... Get Pine -> sendmail -> uucp running completely.
> Install procmail, and tcp/ip wrappers for PPP link (You see i need to have
> telnetd and ftpd running for internal network.)
>
> *sigh* still got some work to do but at least I have some idea now.
> If you can make any suggestions then please do so. I am committed to using UU
CP
> for mail at this stage. Please forward this to the appropriate groups/people
if
> required.
>
> Thankyou sincerely and humbly in advance
>
> Kevin
>
> -- A bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a... *splat*... "ann
oying!" --
>
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Bob Rahe (
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> You have it exactly. Solaris 2.3 is not returning a FQDN for the function
> gethostbyname. Your fix of putting user-domain in pine.conf.fixed will
> fix the problem with the From: field. But.... there are two more places that
> need to use it and don't. One is the generation of Message-ID:. The RFCs
> seem to say that that name needs to be a FQDN also. I fixed that by
> changing reply.c in generate_message_id to use "maildomain" which is what
> gets set by the user-domain option in the conf.fixed file.
It is not uncommon to set the the gethostbyname function to return only
the inital machine name, not the FQDN. This is not a bug, it's just the
way that some machines are or can be set. Our DECstations do this as do
our Suns. Other networked communications packages I have built (tin,
rn, elm) realize this, and allow you to define a constant somewhere in
the source that gives the remainder of the domain name. This is
appended to the machine name returned by gethostbyname whenever it is
called. Why doesn't Pine? I ask this because we are having the same
problem here (with both mail messages and news postings from by Pine)
and I've been looking for a simple, clean patch. I guess I don't
understand why this isn't a problem for any of these other programs
like it is for Pine.
Anyway, let me through in a "me too" and ask if anyone else has a simple
patch for this. BTW, has this been reported as a bug to the Pine developers?
I was going to, but I was trying to find out if I had simply missed something
in the FAQ.
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>Hi Everyone,
>
>I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in
>pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know
>about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Steven.
>
Get your hands on procmail and install it (if it hasn't already been installed
on your box). Have all your mail piped to procmail (ie ~/.forward file contains
"| /usr/local/bin/procmail") and using appropriate rules to filter your
mail in ~/.procmailrc, you can sort/bounce/discard your mail according to
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From: Eric Mockensturm <
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Subject: Re: Mac and PINE
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Is the printer is attached to the Mac or the Unix machine?
On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Juliet Lim wrote:
>
> I am using a Mac as a terminal with a SLIP (INTERSlip) connection to a UNIX
> host. How do I print my e-mail while inside the PINE program? When I
> press Y (for PrYnt), the mail is printed on the screen, not on the
> attached printer as should be.
>
> Pleae reply by e-mail (if possible) to
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>
> Thanks for any response.
>
> Juliet
>
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Hi,
I'd like my pine (on Ultrix and on SunOs 4) not to erase the type-ahead
buffer when quitting. I assume I'd need to change the source, but I'm
not enough skilled in C to find it.. Would someone help?
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From: Steve Holstead <
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To: Terry Gray <
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Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes
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On Sat, 11 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote:
> Steve,
> On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their
> shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild?
That is correct. My experience on both OSF1/2.0 and AIX/3.25 has produced
this annoyance. When users in the PC labs disconnect, pine spins out.
The method of the disconnect was something to do with a Cntrl+X type of
disconnect. I could do some more digging if it would help.
> Or does it happen with tcsh even if you are not disconnected?
>
> In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem
> on OSF?
Yes. I could recreate the problem with csh and OSF. By moving to tcsh, I
was able to eliminate the problem.
I did some tests with AIX and csh with earlier versions of pine without
being able to recreate the problem. Now with pine3.91, I see the same
problem I encountered with OSF.
I was hoping that someone was aware of this problem and that there was a
solution already out there. If you wish I could do some more testing of
this?
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When I tried posting a reply to a newsgroup, using precisely the
same procedures as usual, I got the message:
ERROR POSTING MESSAGE 441 400 NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE WRITING
ARTICLE FILE.
Say what?
I got the same result when trying to post this message; I postponed
both and later was able to send the first. If you see this, it obviously
finally got out also. What's happening?
+ + + + +
Hank Burchard * Weekend Section * The Washington Post
1150 15th Street NW * Washington DC USA 20071-0001
VoiceMail (202) 334-7243 * Email:
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Terry Gray (
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: Steve,
: On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their
: shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild?
Yes.
: Or does it happen with tcsh even if
: you are not disconnected?
: In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem
: on OSF?
Yes
: -teg
: On 10 Feb 1995, Steve Holstead wrote:
: > Sherry H. Lake (
[email protected]) wrote:
: > : Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0
: > : Pine 3.91
: >
: > : Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine
: > : processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU.
: >
: > This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This
: > problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines.
: >
: > I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the
: > problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh.
: >
: > Any info would be *greatly* appericiated!
: >
: > --
: > ______________________________________________________________________________
: >
: > Steve Holstead University of Alberta
: >
[email protected] Computer and Network Services
: > Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group
: > Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building
: > Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1
: > C A N A D A
: >
: >
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Subject: Pine and PGP and Decoding
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I have been using the mkpgp program for some time to integrate PGP and
Pine to encode messages. The problem is, I haven't yet figured out a
good way to decode the mesage without using multiple files and ^Zing out.
Is there a good way/script to decode a PGP encoded message I receive?
Tony Bailey
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On 10 Feb 1995, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> Date: 10 Feb 1995 16:32:31 +1300
> From: Jonathan Chen <
[email protected]>
> To:
[email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mail bombs - how to avoid?
>
> In <
[email protected]>
>
[email protected] (Steven Williams) writes:
>
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in
> >pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know
> >about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Steven.
> >
>
> Get your hands on procmail and install it (if it hasn't already been installed
> on your box). Have all your mail piped to procmail (ie ~/.forward file contains
> "| /usr/local/bin/procmail") and using appropriate rules to filter your
> mail in ~/.procmailrc, you can sort/bounce/discard your mail according to
> sender, subject, mail-text and other criteria.
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jonathan Chen <
[email protected]>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
I have found a version of procmail that will not successfully compile on
linux. does anyone know of a version or port of procmail for linux?
thanx in advance.
srw
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1: Make sure you have PIne 3.90 or higher.
2: Set the nntp-server to your news server.
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I REALLY NEED SOME HELP AND I CAN'T FIND ANY. I NEED TO LEARN HOW TO
CONNECT TO NEWS GROUPS AND HOW TO TALK TO OTHERS. PLEASE SOMEBODY, I AM
GOING CRAZY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THIS THING.
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System is SCO Unix 3.2v4.2.
with SCO TCP/IP 1.2.1 with 389D patch
I have a PPP link setup under SCO so we can Telnet out to other sites.
When I run pine it will not start until until the PPP link is established.
In fact whatever it seems to do makes the link start up of it own accord.
If it does a Domain Name Search then yes the link will start up as the system
points to a external DNS through the /etc/resolv.conf file.
I have not specified any SMPT addresses.
What is it doing?
How do I stop this?
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In <
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>On Sat, 11 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>> On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their
>> shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild?
>
>That is correct. My experience on both OSF1/2.0 and AIX/3.25 has produced
>this annoyance. When users in the PC labs disconnect, pine spins out.
>The method of the disconnect was something to do with a Cntrl+X type of
>disconnect. I could do some more digging if it would help.
I have seen similiar problems under BSDI and Pine 3.91. A user disconnects,
and their Pine image goes hog-wild in the background, sucking up as much CPU
time as it can get.
>> Or does it happen with tcsh even if you are not disconnected?
>>
>> In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem
>> on OSF?
>
>Yes. I could recreate the problem with csh and OSF. By moving to tcsh, I
>was able to eliminate the problem.
All the problems on the machine I administer have been with the tcsh shell
and Pine. Most of the users use tcsh anyways.
It is a most annoying problem, though.
Andrew
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A quick a dirty solution:
Compose a message with that alias (distribution list?) in the "To:"
heading. Then use the cut feature and uncut it in the body of the
message. Put the chair's address on the message and send.
Does this work?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andrew Hess American Language Institute,
[email protected] New York University -
http:www/nyu/edu/pages/hess/cities.html City University of NY
helen ruth etters
(
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: I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the
: email addresses of all the students who major in our department.
: I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his
: having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this
: addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without
: having to retype it?
: Thanks.
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Does anyone know why one would get a 502 Permission Denied error when
trying to access a newsgroup, in fact all of them? I put in the correct
nntp server and it works fine under nn but I would really like to user
Pine instead. Help!
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Can someone tell me the difference between the pine mail system and the
elm mail system?
-Thanks
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Estimated sirs,
My sysadmin recently migrated me to PINE (ver. 3.89). I've found very easy
and confortable to work, but I haven't found the posibility to discriminate
the incoming mail to concrete folders. I'd tried to configurate the
incoming-folders line in the .pinerc file, editing, as Release Notes say,
but without outcomes.
I wonder if its possible re-directionate the incoming messages with regards
to their from, to, subject, date and other headers, such as its possible
in the sorting option, to the folders I desire.
Pine has been recently setting up here, instead of the EAN software, and
some users very busy in listservs and mailing lists estimate useful this
option. I request you because our postmasters and sysadmins unknow this
(they should to)
Very thanks for your assistance:
Roberto Ortiz de Zarate
Computer Centre,
Univ. of Bilbao
Spain
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On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Stephen R. Wylie wrote:
> >
> I have found a version of procmail that will not successfully compile on
> linux. does anyone know of a version or port of procmail for linux?
>
> thanx in advance.
>
>
> srw
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Get the latest version of procmail - it compiled "out of the box" on my
Linux system. You can get the latest version from:
ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.225.3)
as (g)zipped tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz
as compressed tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z
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In article <
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>I have seen similiar problems under BSDI and Pine 3.91. A user disconnects,
>and their Pine image goes hog-wild in the background, sucking up as much CPU
>time as it can get.
The former sysadmin at this side had pine aliased to a script that
would run pine, and then at the end of the session would check to see
if the sucker was still going. I think he also killed the process if
it was, but he at least sent a message to the user, reminding them to
cleanup their pine processes.
- frank
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From: Ed Greshko <
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To: Roberto Ortiz de Zarate Arce <
[email protected]>
Cc:
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Subject: Re: On the incoming-folders
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On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, Roberto Ortiz de Zarate Arce wrote:
> My sysadmin recently migrated me to PINE (ver. 3.89). I've found very easy
> and confortable to work, but I haven't found the posibility to discriminate
> the incoming mail to concrete folders. I'd tried to configurate the
> incoming-folders line in the .pinerc file, editing, as Release Notes say,
> but without outcomes.
> I wonder if its possible re-directionate the incoming messages with regards
> to their from, to, subject, date and other headers, such as its possible
> in the sorting option, to the folders I desire.
>
> Pine has been recently setting up here, instead of the EAN software, and
> some users very busy in listservs and mailing lists estimate useful this
> option. I request you because our postmasters and sysadmins unknow this
> (they should to)
The feature you are looking for is not part of pine. To do what
you want you will need to acquire "filter" program such as "procmail" or
"filter" (from the elm distribution) etc.
One place to acquire promail would be:
ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz
Ed
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No, but you can tab through news groups, and Pine won't stop at any
that are empty.
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On 6 Feb 1995, Don Stimson wrote:
> I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how
> fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to
> get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each
> newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when
> not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same.
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> 3. Undelete newsgroup messages.
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Hi everyone!
I am trying to get pine to read and post news articles to our local machine.
In the past, I have been using cnews and nn for news, but users would rather
use pine to read and post news instead of nn. So what I did was get
a copy of nntp and compiled it. In the pine.conf file, I have this line:
nntp-server=thehill.chrh.org (our "local" machine)
Which causes pine to properly post news, but I can't read news. If I try
to read news, I get the following error:
"No state for newsgroup found. Reading as new"
To overcome this problem, I have this line:
news-collections=News *[]
Is this an acceptable configuration, or is there a problem with the nntp
communication that will not allow reading? I am new to "nntp", so it
is quite possible that I do not have something configured correctly.
I'd appreciate any tips!
Paul Jones
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Hi everybody,
I am using pine-3.91 with the character set ISO-8859-1 to
display the accents of some european langages. When I
read the mails everything is fine, I can visualize these accents.
Unfortunately, when I want to print them, I can't
manage getting the proper accentuation. For example
the character \`e (tex) becomes =E8 !!!
Has anybody solved this problem before ? If you have,
could you please send me your solution, my email
address is '
[email protected]'.
Thanks in advance,
best regards,
Eric Goirand, Phd student of the University Paris 6, France.
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, michael wallendahl wrote:
> I may be wrong, but I think that the "print-to-attched-printer" only
> works under vt100 style emulation.
>
> I use TeleMate myself, and it works perfectly when I use VT-102
> emulation. Just hit "Y" and out comes my e-mail on my dot matrix. :)
Problem is, the vt100/vt102 terminal emulation in many telecomm programs
is incomplete, so the software doesn't know what to do with the print
job. In some cases the message text prints to the screen instead of to
the printer. In other cases, nothing happens at all.
The workaround is to use Pine's export command (e) to save the message as
a text file in your home directory, then cat the file to your screen,
capturing it on the fly to your own computer, or download it to your
computer and print it from there.
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: 1: Make sure you have PIne 3.90 or higher.
: 2: Set the nntp-server to your news server.
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Being that I am completely new to this, how exactly do I setup pine to do
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Dear all,
last week I asked the same question, however didn't get an answer.
So here it goes again:
Does auto-move-read-msgs also work when connected to a remote incoming
folder via IMAP?
My experience says no.
What's yours?
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From: Guy Boanas <
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Subject: Re: PC Pine signature/addressbook
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On 12 Feb 1995, Samson Luk wrote:
> How can I setup the following in PINERC to get PC Pine use the
> .addressbook and .signature file on the UNIX end?
>
> address-book={mail.iohk.com}.addressbook
> signature-file={mail.iohk.com}.signature
>
> both of the above didn't work in my case.
The information below works with Winsock Pine
If you are using an NFS-type system mount your UNIX home directory as an
NFS drive (e.g. M:\) and tell PC-Pine that your addressbook etc is at
M:\mail\filename. For filename you will have to substitute the cookied
version of the filename (i.e. with "~" or "^" characters) shown by doing
a DIR command on the now mounted m:\mail directory. You cannot mount it
as m:\mail\.addressbook.
Guy Boanas
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> If your department chair is not too familiar with pine, it might be best
> for you to get a copy of his .addressbook and then edit it in pico to
> include your list. Editing the .addressbook is not too complicated. You
> just need to read in the file (^R) and make sure that the name of the
> list begins on a new line is followed with a tab (do this twice) and then
> list the distribution list each on a separate line preceeded by ten spaces.
>
> In article <
[email protected]> you wrote:
> : I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the
> : email addresses of all the students who major in our department.
> : I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his
> : having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this
> : addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without
> : having to retype it?
Thanks Michael, but I'm afraid this is not the answer for two reasons:
I don't know how to ^R(ead) a file from one person's account to another's
(if I'm logged in as me I don't have access to his; & vice versa; right?)
and (2) I also have the same question about other address lists. I'm
the editor of a newsletter, and want to send my mailing list to a number
of other people, but thought that giving one example would be enough and
so didin't mention that I also have other lists I want to forward to
other people. Any other ideas? Thank you very much for your help.
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Where can I find FAQ for Pine for DOS? Thanks. --Peter Montague
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From: SI-Johanne Duhaime <duhaimj%
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Bonjour
Is it possible to work with 132 colomns displayed on the screen with
pico?
Thank you for your help.
Johanne Duhaime
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From: Steve Hubert <
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To: Vince Prichard <
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Cc:
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Subject: Re: Copying Global Addressbook Entries to a Personal Book
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No, but the next version will have a TakeAddress command which works from
one address book to another just like it works from a message to an
address book.
Steve Hubert <
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Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle
On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Vince Prichard wrote:
> Does Pine have any built-in facility to copy address information from the
> system's Global Addressbook to a personal address book? Outside of Pine,
> I have found that you can grep the global file for the name you want and
> append the output to the personal file (.addressbook). Then Pine sees what
> was added when you start it. But is there a more direct way? This
> method can easily get more than you want, which then has to be deleted.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
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>
>
>
>
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On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, John Andrea wrote:
> In comp.mail.pine you write:
> >: In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem
> >Yes
>
>
> This is very interesting, i've always seen it happen on AIX and Ultrix
> and assumed it was a standard unix bug. Have you ever figured out what
> tcsh does differently ? Do you know if anyone has posed the question to
> IBM (or DEC) ?
I have not figured out why tcsh fixed the problem on OSF1/2.0 nor have I
figured out why it doesn't fix the problem on AIX/3.25. I do however have
it on my TODO list. I hope to get into this soon.
I have talk to DEC. They say "Yeah, looks like a problem to me.". The
trouble is, their response was to use tcsh. That is not my idea of a DEC
fix. I fough with their support people for *6* MONTHS for a csh fix.
Their reply was "thats the way csh is designed.". I gave up on DEC.
>
> I find it happening to kermit when people hangup the phone too.
This could very well be related.
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Subject: PINE 3.91 and AIX 3.2.5
Date: 13 Feb 1995 18:35:54 GMT
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Has anyone been able to get pine to compile on AIX 3.2.5? I've gotten
pico to compile, but pine generates a compiler error then dies! I'd like
to be able to compile it with optimization to cut down on its memory
requirements and speed it up a little!
I get the following error using the IBM C compiler:
cc -DA32 -O -DSYSTYPE=\"A32\" -c os.c
"os.c", line 1628.22: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared identifier MAXPATH.
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is 1.
Any help would be appreciated!
If anyone has tried to make it using shared libraries as well I would be
interested in hearing about it. We have 18400 accounts spread across six
sites and the 40-70 concurrent logins are a killing with most users
checking their mail via PINE.
--
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Subject: Re: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:06:21 -0800
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It should work wherever your INBOX is, can you provide more details?
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX)
University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20
4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA
On 13 Feb 1995
[email protected] wrote:
> Date: 13 FEB 1995 07:04:08 -0800
> From:
[email protected]
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP
>
> Dear all,
>
> last week I asked the same question, however didn't get an answer.
> So here it goes again:
>
> Does auto-move-read-msgs also work when connected to a remote incoming
> folder via IMAP?
> My experience says no.
>
> What's yours?
>
> Thanks in advance
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Martin Spohn |
> Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970
> Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail:
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Subject: Re: help
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Pine normally asks you if you want to include the message in a reply. Is
that not happening?
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On 6 Feb 1995, Nizar Awartani wrote:
> Date: 6 FEB 1995 06:34:47 -0600
> From: Nizar Awartani <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: help
>
> In repling to some one by mail, the pine program does not include the
> message. Can any one help?
> Please: Reply by E-mail.
> Thanks.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Nizar M. Awartani
> Department Of Computer Science
> An-Najah University l l
> Nablus West Bank . l.. _ _ l ..
> Tel. 972-9-383266 _l l__l l_l___l_ l __l
> l____l ____l ____l ____l _____l
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Subject: Re: NEWSGROUP postings to INBOX???
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:18:20 -0800
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No, subscribing to a newsgroup only lists that group as a folder in your
News-Collection, it does not cause anything else to happen...
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, W F (Will) Sill wrote:
> Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 18:44:35 -0500
> From: W F (Will) Sill <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: NEWSGROUP postings to INBOX???
>
>
> When I SUBSCRIBE to a NEWSGROUP in PINE, should I not expect to see
> posting to that group in my PINE INBOX?
>
>
>
[email protected] - the unofficial Mayor of Sill Hill
>
>
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Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:20:46 -0800
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Control-Z should work anywhere in Pine, including the composer...
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote:
> Date: Thu, 9 FEB 1995 18:14:29 GMT
> From: Douglas H. Quebbeman <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility
>
>
> I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command,
> which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell
> out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work
> without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which
> I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it,
> or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982).
>
> --
> -Douglas H. Quebbeman (
[email protected])
> "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Subdirectories With Pine?
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:11:48 -0800
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Pine currently supports folder-collections, but that is all at this time.
We are planning to implement hierarchical collections in the future
though...
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On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Mike Rollins wrote:
> Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 09:12:18 -0500 (EST)
> From: Mike Rollins <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Subdirectories With Pine?
>
>
> Is there a way to configure Pine so that
> I am able to use subdirectories within either my
> mail or "Subscribed-Groups" directories? What I
> would like to do, is to configure my newsgroups
> directory so that I can have all of the groups
> which are related to a given topic in a separate
> subdirectory. Also, I would like to set up my
> mail directory so that I have one or two separate
> subdirectories for people with whom I regularly
> exchange E-Mail, so that I can keep each of them
> as a separate folder without cluttering up my
> primary mail directory with folders. Also, I am
> learning that it may be useful to have a separate
> "Lists" folder for storing mail from the various
> mailing lists that I am on. Is anything like
> this possible?
>
> Mike Rollins
>
[email protected]
>
[email protected]
> Speaking only for myself.
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Replying a note from an 'Apparently from' address
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Pine does not recognize the Apparently-From header, you will have to
manually enter the address.....
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Chermesh Ran wrote:
> Date: Sun, 5 FEB 1995 12:56:04 GMT
> From: Chermesh Ran <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Replying a note from an 'Apparently from' address
>
>
> Hi,
> i;ve received a note with the following header:
>
> Received: by moon.earthlink.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2)
> id <
[email protected]>; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST
> Message-Id: <
[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST
> Apparently-From:
[email protected]
> To: chermesh
> Subject: Assistance
> X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.)
>
>
> As you can see, the address is "apparantly" from
[email protected].
> I tried to use the 'R' option on pine to answer, but this address wasn't
> recognized.
> Is there a way to solve this minor problem?
>
> Ran
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ran Chermesh E - M A I L
> Behavioral Sciences Dept. ===========
> Ben-Gurion University Internet:
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> Beer-Sheva 84105
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> Israel Bitnet :
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>
> URL:
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Subject: Re: I need MIME help!!!!!!
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FYI, the 'munpack' program mentioned in the original message is a MIME
decoder that works much like uudecode...
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On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Chris Alfeld wrote:
> Date: Sun, 12 FEB 1995 02:01:47 GMT
> From: Chris Alfeld <
[email protected]>
> Newgroups: comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.pine
> Subject: Re: I need MIME help!!!!!!
>
>
> MIME uses it's on encoding scheme. You'll need to find a MIME compliant
> program (normally a mailer) to translate it. On the PC you might try
> Pegasus.
>
> MIME is NOT the same as uuencode.
> --
> -Chris (
[email protected] [email protected])
> Home Page:
http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/
>
>
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Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv?
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You specify the paths to the viewers you want in the .mailcap (or
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On Tue, 7 Feb 1995
[email protected] wrote:
> Date: Tue, 7 FEB 1995 12:16:12 -0500
> From:
[email protected]
> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: mailcap path to xv?
>
> From
[email protected] Feb 7 12:13:41 1995
> Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 11:17:14 -0500
> From:
[email protected]
> Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
> Subject: specifying viewer path in .mailcap?
>
>
> How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and
> others like mpeg, etc)???
>
> Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an
> environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)?
>
> Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not
> happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in
> different directories.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> =======================================================
> /
> \ / /
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How do I get into the Webb. I've tried to get in but it keeps
rejecting me.
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Greetings,
I'm using a Windows PC to dial-up a Unix machine, which uses PINE 3.91 to
manage mail and newsgroups. Comm software is Procomm Plus for Windows
(v1.1, I think). I've used Procomm+/Win's ASPECT scripting language, and
the Meta-keys and programmable keyboard features to make Pine easier to
use (say, for occassional users).
The question: Has anyone written a script, like with navigation buttons
and such, in Procomm+/Win that would present a point&click interface to Pine?
Thanks.
Steve Daviss
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Baltimore
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On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote:
> I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking
> letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it
> was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters
> (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help
> would be appreciated. Please email
>
> Yongrim
yes it is quite possible indeed it has been done :-) btw if you are
a dos user you need ansi.sys installed in your config.sys
like so:
device=c:\dos\ansi.sys
I'm not sure about other OS's
however i know escape sequences do some funky things with windows.
my login is in color and windows "jumps" back from my prompt when i log in
so i have take the mouse and scroll down back to my prompt which returns
to the default crl%.
if anyone wants to see an example i'll be more and happy to mail you
one. Then you can save it to file and edit it down and insert it
in any documents you wish :-)
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Okay, I answered my own question. I now know how to start Pine in an
xterm and set what its icon should look like:
I start Pine using
xterm -n Pine -name Pine -title "Pine" -e /usr/local/bin/pine &
^^^^^^^^^^
this is what tells the window manager what the
application is called
In my .Xdefaults I have
!
! This tells the window manager the name of the bitmap to use for the icon
! -- substitute with the correct window manager name.
Mwm*Pine*iconImage: /user2/stern/.xbm/pine.xbm
!
! Pine doesn't inherit any of the specific XTerm stuff, so it needs to be
! defined.
!
Pine*VT100.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-*-*-c-*-*-1
Pine*VT100.Geometry: 80x50+10+10
Pine*VT100.saveLines: 0
Pine*jumpScroll: off
Pine*scrollBar: off
#ifdef COLOR
Pine*foreground: White
Pine*background: DarkSlateGrey
Pine*cursorColor: Red
Pine*pointerColor: Blue
#endif
The bitmap I use is attached. It is a slightly shrunken version of the
one on the Pine WWW site.
The X resources for window managers are read only when the wm starts, so
they won't take effect until you restart.
-- Ted
============================================================================
Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20
[email protected] University of Washington
http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195
============================================================================
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How can you make Pine "understand" different character
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________________________________________________________________________
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'ls doc' only shows:
brochure.txt mailcap.unx pine.1 tech-notes.ps
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Where is pine-ports?
Jack
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: Where can I get a copy of Pine 3.91 for Windows?
Try ftping to ftp.cac.washington.edu It's listed as pine.tar.Z in the
"mail" file and it's big!
-Dale Marks
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I built a set of binaries for Pine 3.91 on SCO Unix 3.2.4, called
pine3.91.sco.bins.tar.gz, and put them on odi.cwc.whecn.edu, and alongside
Bill Campbell's source/binaries package on ftp.celestial.com. I have
discovered that there is a problem for non-US people using my binaries. I
compiled it using US-specific crypt libraries. Apparently, non-US
versions of SCO will core-dump if you run this binary. At least, some do.
I recently fixed a problem someone was having in Mexico by rebuilding Pine
using SCO's international crypt supplement.
If you are outside of the US and have a problem with my Pine where it
says something like "Pine caught a signal... closing down" whenever you
try to start it up, let me know and I can make the international version
I built available for you.
Gunther Anderson
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On 9 Feb 1995, David Soergel wrote:
> Mary Susan Freeman <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Can you get www on pine?
>
> No. In a text-based environment, use Lynx. In a graphical
> environment, use Netscape if you can, otherwise Mosaic. There are
> some other web browsers available too... Cello for example.
>
> The WWW is interactive; you move around in it in real time. Pine
> does only email and news.
>
> -David
>
>
Sorry David, but I think you are missing a important request here.
I would refine the question to "why is there no text/URL mime type". If
this type was "blessed" then the mailcap file could be set to envoke any
Web "viewer" the user's system could support. The two "killer apps" in
the internet are WWW browers and e-mail. Currently many of the Web
browsers provide some type of e-mail interface. It sure would be nice to
be able to include an attachment which when viewed would access info via
a URL. This would provide the ultimate MIME .signature facility.
Of course this is possible now in a non-standard way, but it would move
much more quickly towards becoming a standard if PINE backed it.
I believe the PINE dev. team are leaders in providing MIME-based
mail systems, and are in a good position to "show the possibilites" of MIME
e-mail. I feel that this type of integration between the WWW world and
MIME e-mail will soon happen...the question is how well will this
integration be thought out and who's bennefit will it serve. Let's not
let MS, or the likes, again set defacto "standards".
Keep up the good work.
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: Being that I am completely new to this, how exactly do I setup pine to do
: it? I am using verion 3.91
At the main menu type 'S' for setup and then 'C' for config.
Go down to the entry 'nntp-server' and use the 'A' (add) command
to add your newserver to this entry.
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From: Terry Gray <
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The pine.tar.Z file contains the entire source distribution.
The Windows version of PC-Pine is in the file:
/pine/pcpine/pcpine_w.zip on ftp.cac.washington.edu
-teg
On 14 Feb 1995,
[email protected] wrote:
> Steve Larson (
[email protected]) wrote:
> : Where can I get a copy of Pine 3.91 for Windows?
>
> Try ftping to ftp.cac.washington.edu It's listed as pine.tar.Z in the
> "mail" file and it's big!
>
> -Dale Marks
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>
>
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: Is it possible to work with 132 colomns displayed on the screen with
Sure, with GNU stty the command to run before pico is:
stty cols 132
On some systems
setenv COLS 132
might help. I believe the command on standard stty is:
stty co# 132
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There follow a few suggestions to improve how usable Pine is.
The following apply to Pine 3.91. I was running Pine on unix
(Solaris 2.3), but the suggestions may well apply to other flavours of
unix Pine.
^J Attach
I switched on the option use-current-dir but found that attach takes
you to your home directory, instead of to the current one.
Empty folders
Would it be too difficult to arrange things so that when you open an
empty folder, pine returns immediately with a message to that effect,
instead of actually opening the folder, which is slower (maybe due to
the current implementation of IMAPD ?).
Directory browser
I would love to be able to go straight into directories when I
select them, instead of having to confirm by pressing yes.
Similarly for selecting files. Could there be an option for this,
maybe called something like browse-without-confirm. This would be
similar to the select-without-confirm option.
Folder name completion in address book
For consistency I would like to be able to press tab, and have a
folder name completed while I am editing the Fcc of an address book
entry.
Apart from minor cases, such as the ones above, I am very happy with Pine.
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Hello!
We are working with PC Pine and the HPUX port of Pine, both v3.91
and have some questions concerning how the mailcap file is
constructed. If we attach a MS Word document to a Pine message
the Content-type header field lists it as Multipart/Mixed with
a boundary= parameter. When we go to view the document/attachment
in the PC Pine version with an entry in our mailcap file as follows:
Multipart/Mixed;c:\word\winword %s
The MS Word application launches but we receive an error stating the
file c:\temp\imxxxxxx.doc can not be found/open? The file never gets
created in \TEMP either.
We are wondering about a couple of things. First is their a Content type
for specific vendors applications? If so, where can I obtain a list of
registered content type values that I can use in my mailcap file? I
understand the IANA keeps these. Second, what is the proper syntax for
the mailcap file to have it launch say MS Word for Windows, Lotus for
Windows, etc. based on the attachment content-type? I have noticed that
our TCP/IP stack vendor (FTP Software) includes a MAPI compliant mailer
that puts a content-type value in when you use it to mail attachments.
It gave the above MS Word document a content-type of:
application/MSWORD. I read there a extension tokens that can be
referenced in the mailcap. Are these regeistered, and can I obtain a
list of registered extensions (ie .DOC, .WK4, etc.)?
Any help on the subject of constructing the mailcap file, and valid
supported content-types, extension tokens, etc. would be greatly
appreciated!
Best regards. . . Mike
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This message comes from your NNTP server, not from Pine.
Although it seems to be saying that the disk is full on that system, my
experience suggests that the disk is out of inodes. In other words,
there are too many files. It's possible for 50% of the disk to be free
and still get this message.
Nag the sysadmin of the NNTP server to rebuild that disk with more
inodes.
If you *are* the sysadmin:
1) rebuild that disk with more inodes. You need a lot more inodes on a
news spool disk than on an ordinary filesystem.
2) As an interim measure to get the news flowing again, blow away a few
thousand files on the server. Good places to look for garbage are some of
the more active rec.* newsgroups, and especially the alt.* and *.pictures
newsgroups (groups with names such as alt.sex.dirty.pictures are good
targets).
On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Hank Burchard wrote:
> When I tried posting a reply to a newsgroup, using precisely the
> same procedures as usual, I got the message:
>
> ERROR POSTING MESSAGE 441 400 NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE WRITING
> ARTICLE FILE.
>
> Say what?
>
> I got the same result when trying to post this message; I postponed
> both and later was able to send the first. If you see this, it obviously
> finally got out also. What's happening?
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>On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, John Andrea wrote:
>
>> In comp.mail.pine you write:
>> >: In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem
>> >Yes
>>
>>
>> This is very interesting, i've always seen it happen on AIX and Ultrix
>> and assumed it was a standard unix bug. Have you ever figured out what
>> tcsh does differently ? Do you know if anyone has posed the question to
>> IBM (or DEC) ?
Hey, you IBM and DEC people think you got all the fun :-)
I'm running a Sun SparcIIk with Solaris 2.4..... you got it,
the same problem. (with ksh)
I'm not sure what can be done about it, but if I come up with anything
I'll post it here.
(my current solution is a script that kills certain things if that
process is running without a user connected. (ie not in the "who" list).
I don't like this though, since with 200+ people online, this script does
more harm than good...
Enjoy,
MikeE
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After installation of Pine 3.91 on an SGI Indy using the makefile.sgi I want
to remove everything not necessary to pine and pico in order to save disc
space. Can anyone give a list of which files I must keep (or which I can
delete)?
Thanks,
Morten Andersen,
University of Copenhagen,
Denmark
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Is it possible to change the key bindings in Pine/Pico? I realize that they
were chosen to be comfy for Emacs users, but Emacs users could just use Emacs
(alternate editor). I'd like to make it comfy for Mac/Windows users. All Mac
programs use ^X=Cut, ^C=Copy, ^V=Paste, and as far as I can tell, many Windows
programs have also copied this standard. Can this be done in Pico?
Many thanks from a new but genuine Pine convert...
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I'd like to intercept an outgoing file just before Pine throws it out the
door to do a little postprocessing -- namely, I want to digitally sign it, and
also encrypt it if the recipient address is one that I have a public key for.
I can do all this in a script if I can just catch that file before it goes.
Alternatively, I could use the "alternate-editor-cmd" to wrap Pico in an
encrypting script (I'm using such a setup experimentally right now). But this
means a few extra keystrokes, and only works for signing (because the script
has no way of knowing who the recipient might be). Any ideas? Thanks...
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In article <
[email protected]>, you write:
|> Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an
|> environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)?
|>
|> Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not
|> happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in
|> different directories.
Why don't you soft-link it instead (see man ln) ?
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I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have
a pointer to the document that I need to set this up?
Thanks,
Kevin M. Flanagan
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From: Don Sugarman <
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On Fri, 10 Feb 1995, Joseph J. Strout wrote:
> I'd like to intercept an outgoing file just before Pine throws it out the
> door to do a little postprocessing -- namely, I want to digitally sign it, and
> also encrypt it if the recipient address is one that I have a public key for.
> I can do all this in a script if I can just catch that file before it goes.
>
I believe what you are looking for can be accomplished by modifying the
sendmail.cf file. I have *no* idea how to do it, but I am
pretty sure that is where you need to intercept it.
I would start by defining an array of designated addressees in a
reference file, which is read when the sendmail daemon is started.
Messages to those recipients would be preprocessed by your script and
sent on their way as normal.
Maybe someone out there will know if this would work and, more
importantly, how to do it.
Don Sugarman
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Anybody else see this problem? The build and installation
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Subject: Re: POP client???
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Kevin Flanagan (kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote:
: I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have
: a pointer to the document that I need to set this up?
I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file:
incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3}
however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client
over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the
following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after
it lists some of the headers):
Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal".
I'm leaning towards a pine bug because eudora under windows has no problem
fetching the articles (nor does Windows 95 mail client have any problem
with them)...
Since it's an undocumented (and probably unsupported feature) I will report
this bug (but, I don't expect an answer)....
-chris peck
binghamton university
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On 12 Feb 1995, Tony Bailey wrote:
Date: 12 FEB 1995 13:41:04 -0600
From: Tony Bailey <
[email protected]>
Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
Subject: Pine and PGP and Decoding
I have been using the mkpgp program for some time to integrate PGP and
Pine to encode messages. The problem is, I haven't yet figured out a
good way to decode the mesage without using multiple files and ^Zing out.
Is there a good way/script to decode a PGP encoded message I receive?
Tony Bailey
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Set the "include-text-in-reply" option in Pine. "Reply to" or "forward" the
message so you can run the alternate editor. When the alt-editor runs, mkpgp
will detect the message and decode and/or check the signature. Keys
received by e-mail are added to your keyring the same way.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.1
Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface.
iQCVAgUBL0BhceBu0383Om6dAQEztgQA6MfmWF8y+59mzRdfgIAwG68PaMQ/yGN+
yRDCQGlHB/lixHHAFL7O+o8B+E9DtAGgDHMgDv2AqpeQCQgfQ5+pmCWw3j/6TLAs
wNtRCpR4BHaNlybEnVW/lrekTXrgT1thyBgHP6g8bMnKjSHOyu1wPsEGQXqqS/kQ
J62/A5GzEuI=
=ZC4j
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- kc finger
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against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Why not just edit your .newsrc file to contain just the newsgroups you
want, in the order you want them?
BTF
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On 10 Feb 1995, Christopher Noble wrote:
> Unfortunately, my system has all the news groups that I can get in the news collection. How can I clean it out so it only has the say 10 groups I want. It really slows down my system and if makes it very difficult to post messages thru pine since it must select the group and show all 4 million messages before I can post. Any suggestions.
>
> Noble
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>
>
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Hi,
I have Pine 3.91 installed on IRIX 5.3 (SGI). I would like the
>From header stripped from the hostname, ie, to have it like this :
user@domainname. I put in the pine.conf, the
user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca but I still have my From:
perrot@<machine>.grbb.polymtl.ca. I tried also
use-only-domain-name=yes (with user-domain unset) with no more
success.
Any idea about my problem ? Gildas.
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Subject: Marking articles read/unread in newsgroups in pine
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Can anyone tell me how to get pine to bring in all new articles in a
newsgroup with the "N" symbol next to them, just as unread email messages
are presented? I would like to have the "N" flag then to be removed as I
read the articles, and for the read/not_read status flags to be preserved
from one session to the next (much as in other newsreaders, such as tin).
I can select all articles with ";" "A" , then "a"pply "*" "N" manually.
pine *says* it is marking all the articles as unread....but it lies! It
does no such thing.
Am I doing something wrong, or am I just asking too much of pine in its
current stage of development as a newsreader?
Ben
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# I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file:
# incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3}
#
# however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client
# over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the
# following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after
# it lists some of the headers):
# Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal".
#
I see the same problem. Especially, if there are a lot mail
to be fetched.
Selcuk
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On 3 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote:
> Comes here Mr. Barry Landy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in
> this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:53:10 +0000:
>
> + A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default
> + savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to
> + default-folder). I agree that this would be useful.
>
> Either I'm missing the point or something...isin't there a default-folder
> already set if you choose that option, the folder being correctly named
> saved-messages ?
Yes, you are missing the point. Perhaps I explained it badly.
What I want to be able to do, via setup, is to say
default-save-folder=my.favorite.save
so that when I select
saved-msg-name-rule=default-folder
it goes there and not to savemail.
=======================================================================
Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development,
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From: Shah <
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To: David L Miller <
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On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:46:09 -0800 (PST) David L Miller <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Shah,
>
>That is a well known bug. I have attached the patch to pine/init.c.
>Apply the changes and rebuild to make the variables work...
>
>Thanks for the report!
Thanks, David. You're a gentleman and a scholar! And thanks to y'all for Pine. It's doing us yeoman's service!
Best regards,
S.
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Subject: About dvi-file attachment
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:47:48 +0100
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950214192505.1657A-100000@melusine>
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I'd like to make an attachment of a dvi-file (device independent...)
such that when viewing it, xdvi is launched.=20
I thought that the only thing I needed was to define (in my ~/.mailcap)
the following:
# use this to display dvi files
application/x-dvi; xdvi %s
However, when I attach a dvi-file, it is OCTET-STREAM'ed, of course.
When ``viewing'' it, it is decoded.
Any help is *really* appreciated!
______________________________________________________________________
Christian J=F6nsson E-mail:
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Division of Data Transmission Telephone: (+46) 13 28 2653
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Is there a way to change the way the 'title' of a quoted reply looks like?
Maybe I'm not asking this correctly. :) What I mean, is the message
that appears before the area of text to which you are replying like:
"On (time/date), (user's name) wrote:"
I know this is configurable on most other mail packages, but I haven't
seen anywhere to change it in Pine.
Also, can the character that appears in the 1st column of the quoted
area be changed? Say, from ">" to ":" for example.
Pardon the rambling message, I'm not really sure how to explain it. hehe
Shane-
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When a user hits return prior to putting a comma in the CC: field to
add more addresses, it naturally puts the comma in the Attchmnt: field.
When they they press RETURN, pine aborts because of a Panic it
received. Is it possible to return an error message and not have pine
core dump? Or can something be set in compilation or .pinerc to not have
pine abort.
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I'm trying to set up PC-PINE with PC-NFS 5.1a (I've also tried with
version 5.0 and some patches). The 5.1a PCs are using DNS; the 5.0
machine uses NIS (but it'll be upgraded soon).
I set up the inbox-path and folder-collections configuration variables
with {myhost}INBOX and {myhost}mail/[] respectively. "myhost" is
running imapd on tcp port 143, and I can telnet to that port from the
PCs. And the telnet leaves me with a syslog message, because I have
tcp_wrappers between imapd and the naked port.
But when I run PC-PINE, I invariably get "[Host not found: myhost]."
And no record of a connection in syslog on "myhost."
"myhost" is listed in \nfs\hosts, the NIS hosts map, and the DNS.
I've got over 500K free memory. I've tried it with and without RTM
loaded (but free memory drops dramatically with RTM).
Back in October, I had it working! But I can't figure out what's
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Anyone have a solution?
Frank Mangione (
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Hi,
I have problems to read e-mail on NFS mailbox directory with Pine 3.91
under IRIX 5.3. I got a patch from SGI to solve problems with NFS and
mail lock file but this one just solves the problem for 'Mail' reader,
not for Pine. When pine tries to read mail in an NFS mailbox, it hangs
up. I didn't have this problem under IRIX 4.0.5. However, I recompiled
Pine under 5.3 without more success. I know that I can use IMAP from
Pine but I would prefer NFS for several reasons.
Does anyone solve this problem ? Thanks in advance for help.
Gildas.
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Hi!
I would like to save my messages (this I can do) and download them (I can
also do this) but when I go to look at them afterwards, it is only one
line, that line being what my Internet provider is, does anybody know
how I could solve this?
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Once you have compiled Pine and installed the executables, you don't need
anything from the source distribution.
|\ | |\/| David L. Miller
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On 13 Feb 1995, Morten Andersen wrote:
> Date: 13 FEB 1995 14:34:17 GMT
> From: Morten Andersen <
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> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: What can I delete from the pine3.91 directory?
>
> After installation of Pine 3.91 on an SGI Indy using the makefile.sgi I want
> to remove everything not necessary to pine and pico in order to save disc
> space. Can anyone give a list of which files I must keep (or which I can
> delete)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Morten Andersen,
> University of Copenhagen,
> Denmark
>
>
>
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The pine-ports file was inadvertantly left out of the Pine 3.91
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On 14 Feb 1995, Jack Bryans wrote:
> Date: 14 FEB 1995 00:07:44 GMT
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> Subject: where's doc/pine-ports
>
> Both pine documentation and 'build help' refer us to doc/pine-ports, yet
> 'ls doc' only shows:
>
> brochure.txt mailcap.unx pine.1 tech-notes.ps
> imap.vs.pop pico.1 tech-notes.me tech-notes.txt
>
> Where is pine-ports?
>
> Jack
>
>
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I am using Pine on a Silicon graphics machine.
Sometimes the pine is really slow in opening the INBOX and
also in quitting. Does this have something to do with the
memory available? Any suggestions?
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Subject: Re: POP client???
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On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Selcuk Ozturk wrote:
> # I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file:
> # incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3}
> #
> # however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client
> # over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the
> # following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after
> # it lists some of the headers):
> # Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal".
> #
> I see the same problem. Especially, if there are a lot mail
> to be fetched.
I've also seen people with a size 7 foot trying to wedge it into
a size 5 shoe. They were subsequently upset when they lost all feeling
in their feet and complained to the shoe manufacturer about their poorly
desiged shoes.
Pine was designed as an IMAP client. It was done so with good
reason. Why would anyone want to shoehorn pine into a POP client when
the easiest and most benificial action to take would be to install the
imapd? Would you attempt to force Eudora into imap mode?
Ed
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Greetings,
One of our users has moved to a machine where she will use pine. Is there
an easy way to move her address book from elm on the old machine to pine
on the new one?
Is there a FAQ with this kind of info around?
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>I'm trying to set up PC-PINE with PC-NFS 5.1a (I've also tried with
>version 5.0 and some patches). The 5.1a PCs are using DNS; the 5.0
>machine uses NIS (but it'll be upgraded soon).
>
>I set up the inbox-path and folder-collections configuration variables
>with {myhost}INBOX and {myhost}mail/[] respectively. "myhost" is
>running imapd on tcp port 143, and I can telnet to that port from the
>PCs. And the telnet leaves me with a syslog message, because I have
>tcp_wrappers between imapd and the naked port.
>
>But when I run PC-PINE, I invariably get "[Host not found: myhost]."
>And no record of a connection in syslog on "myhost."
>[...]
I have never been able to get this working (even using the IP address
of the IMAP server instead of a host name). I have spoken to several
other people who have also never been able to get it working. I
have not heard from a single person who -does- have it working. If
you figure it out, please post; it will be a public service.
-steve
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On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote:
[In response to how to tell pine/mosaic where to look for xv and mpeg.]
>
> You specify the paths to the viewers you want in the .mailcap (or
> /etc/mailcap) file...
Does anyone have a sample .mailcap or /etc/mailcap that they can mail me
so I can look at it. Our system/my account has neither.
Ian Ollmann
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> > How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and
> > others like mpeg, etc)???
It was a while ago, but I think that simply adding in the line
setenv VIEWER xv
to your .cshrc is sufficient to tell mosaic to use xv as its veiwer. (Try
replacing "xv" with /usr/bin/xv or whatever the path is to xv if that
doesn't work. You can often find out the path to various programs by
typing "which xv" or "whereis xv".) As for pine, set
image-viewer=xv
in your .pinerc, or do it through the Setup/Config option.
I haven't figured out mpeg yet, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'd love
to hear it.
Ian
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I am using Pine 3.91 on a system with SunOS 4.1.3. In a seemingly random
fashion Pine will add a new incoming message to the last message that came in.
I have found as many as 5 seperate messages (coming from different people)
all strung together into one message. It doesn't seem to happen in a
consistant fashion ie. sometimes all of the messages are separate and
sometimes some of the messages are combined while others are separate.
Does anyone know what is going on? This didn't happen until Pine was upgraded
to 3.91.
Brian
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I'm not sure if this is a bug, but two of us have now had (a little)
trouble using pine with a non-local nntpserver. If, for example, you should
want to read your news from the the non-local nntpserver
another.computer.com, if you simply add the following stuff to your .pinerc:
news-collections=News *{another.computer.com/nntp}[]
nntp-server=another.computer.com
then you get an error message that says
another.computer.com: Connection refused, 143.
If, however, you use the ip number of another.computer.com (1.2.3.4)
rather than "another.computer.com", then it works:
news-collections=News *{1.2.3.4/nntp}[]
nntp-server=1.2.3.4
I don't really know if this is a bug in pine or the same bug in two
completely different systems (scripps.edu and callnet.com) to two
completely different nntpservers. Does anyone from Pine-development care
to speculate?
Ian
P.S. I love pine more and more everyday. I just saw Z-mail and I like
pine better.
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Gildas PERROT (perrot@San-A) wrote:
: I have problems to read e-mail on NFS mailbox directory with Pine 3.91
: under IRIX 5.3. I got a patch from SGI to solve problems with NFS and
: mail lock file but this one just solves the problem for 'Mail' reader,
: not for Pine. When pine tries to read mail in an NFS mailbox, it hangs
: up. I didn't have this problem under IRIX 4.0.5. However, I recompiled
: Pine under 5.3 without more success. I know that I can use IMAP from
: Pine but I would prefer NFS for several reasons.
Make sure that rpc.statd is running on the client machine. After
upgrading several of our systems from 4.0.5 to 5.3, /usr/etc/rpc.statd
was clobbered, due to an install bug. If this file is missing, either
reinstall eoe1.sw.unix or copy it from another system running 5.3.
-- Dave Hinds
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Dear pine team,
is there a PC-Pine version that allows changing the From: header line?
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How do I setup reading news, random sigs, high bit ascii (finnish o with
dots and a with dots) And anything else nice to know about pine, please
use Email.
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Is it possible to use any version of pine from the dos
window of os2 tcpip. When tried an error: packet driver
not installed just comes up.
If not, does aybody know any other IMAP mail program
working in os2 tcpip?
Erkki Eerola
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Does anyone know how to compile Pine for SCO Unix.
When I executed the command: build sco
I got the following output.
*********************
make args are "CC=cc"
ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system.
ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system.
Making c-client library, mtest and imapd
make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=sco
echo sco > OSTYPE
rm -rf systype
ln -s ANSI systype
ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system.
*** Error code 2
Stop.
*** Error code 1
Stop.
Making Pico
Making Pine.
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-sco.h os.h
ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system.
*** Error code 2
Stop.
Links to executables are in bin directory:
size: bin/pine: cannot open
size: bin/mtest: cannot open
size: bin/imapd: cannot open
bin/pico: 116520 + 28012 + 4024 = 148556
Done
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As you can see, Pico compiled just fine but Pine did not.
Any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
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Darren S. O'Rourke
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I've got a psuedo-slip (twinsock) connection between my PC and Unix host.
Is there a way for me to point at/access the pine addressbook & folders
on the Unix host from PC Pine on my PC so I can keep everything in one
place ?
I don't believe I can do the dns solution posted earlier.
Thanks :-)
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I seem to remember a thread in the past about slow loading of Pine on an
RS6000 with AIX. I did not have the problem then but now am having the
problem. Could anyone shed any light on this? This seems to have
occurred about the time I changed some ethernet addresses.
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# I've also seen people with a size 7 foot trying to wedge it into
# a size 5 shoe. They were subsequently upset when they lost all feeling
# in their feet and complained to the shoe manufacturer about their poorly
# desiged shoes.
#
# Pine was designed as an IMAP client. It was done so with good
# reason. Why would anyone want to shoehorn pine into a POP client when
# the easiest and most benificial action to take would be to install the
# imapd? Would you attempt to force Eudora into imap mode?
#
# Ed
I think that installing imapd is not the "easiest and most beneficial"
thing always. It is not the easiest thing if you don't have the root
privileges or if you have to write the program yourself to implement
it in KA9Q Nos. It is not the "most beneficial" thing either on every
platform. The most important assumption behind the imap is that the
server machine is more powerful and resourceful than the client. What
about if the reverse is true as in my case.
I don't want to say that Pine has to be a POP client. The decision is
developement team's and I would respect it. But, the functionality
seems to be there and doesn't work correctly. Either, it should be
fixed or taken out completely. There is no sense in leaving a buggy
portion of the code in the already huge Pine executable.
Selcuk
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Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my
terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for
everything except PINE and the PICO editor.
I've tried variations on the SETENV and SET commands, but to no avail.
I would just like to know if these two programs are stuck in a 25-line
world or if I'm not doing something right...
Thanks in advance,
Scott Jentsch
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From: Joe Brennan <
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Subject: Re: POP client???
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I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the
backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue.
We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU
load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running
hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this
choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for
disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed
solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model.
Now the University of Washington want IMAP, and we should recognize
they have no great interest in designing and testing a POP
implementation they won't use. We shouldn't expect them to write it
for us. If that's what Ed is trying to say, OK. But don't act like
IMAP answers all needs.
What does the mail system at Washington look like, anyway? Just out
of curiosity. What is the imap host and how many users is it
handling? Ours is a Sparc 20 and we have 20,000 accounts with over
40,000 messages delivered daily... can't do much imap on that guy.
Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems
Columbia University in the City of New York
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:16:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Minh Q. Ho <
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To:
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Subject: PC-PINE
Problem: My PC-Pine can only connect to my SMTP server for sending mail
only for one session.
Background: I have PC-Pine version 3.91. My SMTP server is a HP9000.
My mail server is also the same HP9000. If I start my PC-Pine without the
PINERC file and input the informations as I used PC-Pine, everythings work
fine for that session. I can read mail and send mail as many time as I
want, but once I exited from that session I cannot used that PINERC file
again for connecting to my mail server to send mail. That PINERC file is
only good for reading mail. If I try to use that PINERC file for
connecting to my server to send mail, I always get the following error:
[ Error connection to mail server: ]
If I exit and delete my PINERC file and reinput the informations again
when I use PINE, everything works fine again until I exit from PINE and
the problem start all over again.
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On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote:
> I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the
> backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue.
Agreed.
> We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU
> load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running
> hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this
> choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for
> disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed
> solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model.
But I don't see any reason why you can't configure pine and IMAP to
meet these requirements. Why not distribute the IMAP servers ?
[ There are a lot of possible mbox/spool configuration, but I'm not
sure what exactly you want. It's hard to propose an alternative
without knowing the details, but I don't understand why you need
to funnel everything thru a single IMAP server. ]
On paper, and from my own limited experience, I would have to judge
IMAP as far superior to POP. But I haven't had experience with it
in a large scale, and one option UVA is considering for their
university wide mail system would be a IMAP based system, so if there
is a specific reason that you think it won't scale up, I would like
to know.
---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) <
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From: "Brian P. Hampson" <
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We have a client that wishes to attach files etc via Eudora (PC) to us,
and I was wondering if anyone knows if Eudora is MIME compliant?
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There should be a setting in the config files found in the source code.
Something like MAXLINES......
Scott Jentsch (
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: Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my
: terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for
: everything except PINE and the PICO editor.
: I've tried variations on the SETENV and SET commands, but to no avail.
: I would just like to know if these two programs are stuck in a 25-line
: world or if I'm not doing something right...
: Thanks in advance,
: Scott Jentsch
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From: Joe Brennan <
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To: "Steven D. Majewski" <
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Cc:
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Subject: Re: POP client???
In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:17:48 -0500 (EST)
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Actually the longer range plan is to split mailhub, and so at that
point we can go back to IMAP. One thing is that PC clients will
continue to grow in popularity, with our campus network reaching more
and more rooms, so we won't have the level of control over user
choices that we do now where a great majority still read mail on our
hosts, and we will have to make IMAP work no matter what. IMAP does
have many advantages.
The lesson is to be sure you distribute the IMAP load if it is a big
installation.
Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems
Columbia University in the City of New York
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Is there any way to display the news article number when
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I'm using pine3.91 on my linux box and connect with SLIP to my internet
account. I'm also using pop. I keep getting messages from my system
administrator about my mail messages going to him. he said if this
problem isn't rresolved in 48 hours I'll not be able to use pine.
My address is
[email protected] and for some reason replies go to
[email protected]. How can I change this to
[email protected]. The
[email protected] address appears when I reply to a newsgroup posting from
pine.
Please help!!
[email protected]
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: Has someone ever tried Pine to set up for MMDF?
: I've got the sources and tried it, bit with no luck.
Works fine for me, running SCO Unix 3.2.4.2 with MMDF IIb 43(f), where
the (f) stands for "mucked about with by SCO". hat system are you
running on, and how can you tell it isn't working?
Gunther Anderson
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 09:25:15 -0800
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> On 13 Feb 1995 15:45:22 -0800, Ted Stern profoundly wrote:
>
> :> The bitmap I use is attached. It is a slightly shrunken version of the
> :> one on the Pine WWW site.
>
>
> What is the URL for the pine WWW site? Also, since I am new to X, I have
> no idea how you figured out all of the configuration you did for pine.
> Any advice you could give would be helpful.
> --
>
>
> ________________________________________
> >Hemang Patel
[email protected]
>
The WWW URL for Pine information (includes archives of
pine-info/comp.mail.pine) is
http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/
The bitmap you want is
http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.xbm
And no, I don't know how to specify what bitmap is used for the icon for
window managers other than Mwm! In particular, if anybody knows how to
set up an icon for Pine under Olwm, could you send the answer to
Steven Feinholz <
[email protected]>
I haven't been able to help him very much.
-- Ted
============================================================================
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Hello,
Does anybody knows how can I send a message to many people ( about 80
different address ) ? I have a distribution list on my address book ( Pine
3.91, running under RS6000 ) with maybe 80 persons, and when I try to send
it a message Pine only send about 66, I don't know if this is a
restriction or there are a better way to do that. Suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Joaquin
Joaquin Elorza Tena e-mail:
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Software Engineer informatic Division
Tecnologico de Monterrey
Campus Leon. Mexico
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Hi,
Can someone please tell me where to find a FAQ about mailcap.
Another question that I have is: can pine work together with mailcap and
what have I to do to get this working?
Alex
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Finger me to get a plan of my various activities.
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> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950213153604.
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are those 100000's all intentional?
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You can get WWW via pine two ways. One way is getting a page without html
tags and the other is with them (you get the page, save it as an html or
htm file, and view it with your own browser. This is good if you are
behind a firewall, I imagine. You must know the url you are requesting.
Send email to:
[email protected]
no subject
for pages without html tags type:
send
http://address.of.url/more/information/here
for the tags still embedded, type:
source
http://address.of.url/more/information/here
Of course, you'd type out the address you're interested in. NOTE: I
haven't tried this myself, I'm just passing on what I read. Laters...
*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*
*: Joe Ducharme
[email protected] :*
*: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :*
*: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :*
*: <<
http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :*
*: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :*
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On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Selcuk Ozturk wrote:
> I think that installing imapd is not the "easiest and most beneficial"
> thing always. It is not the easiest thing if you don't have the root
> privileges or if you have to write the program yourself to implement
> it in KA9Q Nos. It is not the "most beneficial" thing either on every
> platform. The most important assumption behind the imap is that the
> server machine is more powerful and resourceful than the client. What
> about if the reverse is true as in my case.
I don't believe that IMAP puts much more, if any, strain on your
system resources than POP. I don't know where you got the impression
that "server machine is more powerful" in the case of IMAP and not also
in the case of POP.
IMHO, it would be more worth your while to implement IMAP even
if you have to port the IMAP daemon to your machine. The time would be
well spent to acquire the added funtions of IMAP. At least it is time not
spent in trying to get an unsupported and undocumented feature working.
> I don't want to say that Pine has to be a POP client. The decision is
> developement team's and I would respect it. But, the functionality
> seems to be there and doesn't work correctly. Either, it should be
> fixed or taken out completely. There is no sense in leaving a buggy
> portion of the code in the already huge Pine executable.
I could find no information in the documentation that stated this
this feature is available or supported.
I believe that the Pine Team has stated in the past *not* to expect
this undocumented feature to remain. BTW, you'd be surprise how many
undocumented features to be found in "payware".
Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3
FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C
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On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote:
> I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the
> backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue.
Mostly true. Some are making their choice "pine" or "ECS Mail"
because they support IMAP and perform better than POP in a mobile
environment.
> We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU
> load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running
> hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this
> choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for
> disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed
> solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model.
I'm a bit confused here. IMAP is a superset of POP. How you
distribute email over various machines is unrelated to what protocol to
use to access individuals email. Also, (at least on the systems I'm
familiar), them method to invoke "popd" is the same as "imapd". That is
via inetd. In both cases a copy of the "daemon" is invoked for each user.
> Now the University of Washington want IMAP, and we should recognize
> they have no great interest in designing and testing a POP
> implementation they won't use. We shouldn't expect them to write it
> for us. If that's what Ed is trying to say, OK. But don't act like
> IMAP answers all needs.
Neither POP nor IMAP will be the answer for eveyone's needs.
All I'm saying is pine is designed to work well with IMAP in the same way
the a client such as Eudora is designed to work well with POP. I believe
would be doing a dis-service to jam either one into the others world.
> What does the mail system at Washington look like, anyway? Just out
> of curiosity. What is the imap host and how many users is it
> handling? Ours is a Sparc 20 and we have 20,000 accounts with over
> 40,000 messages delivered daily... can't do much imap on that guy.
I believe they have a rather large user community running IMAP
on a not so powerful machine. (This is from memory of a discussion quite
some time ago on a POP v.s. IMAP discussion.)
Ed
Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
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On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote:
> I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command,
> which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell
> out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work
> without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which
> I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it,
> or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982).
Your message of 9 Feb took a long time to get here! Methinks the gateway
has a problem.
Instead of messing around with the -z switch, why don't you just alter
Pine's configuration to allow it any time? In 3.90 and 3.91, select
Setup from the main menu, then select Configuration. Or in earlier
versions use your favorite text editor to edit your .pinerc file. In
either case, you want to enable-suspend.
There is no need to use ^o to postpone a partly-composed message before
suspending Pine with ^z. Hit ^z with your message on screen. When
you're ready to come back to Pine, enter fg and you'll be right back
where you left off.
EMACS??? Its best left in 1982 where it belongs! :-)
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Could the next version include some kind of status indicator for applied
functions. For example, when you apply export to a list of newsgroup
messages, it just sits there for a while with no indication that anything is
being done... Even just the number of the message currently being acted on
would be great. Thanks
Matt Simmons -- Purdue University -- West Hell, Indiana
PUCC Lab Assistant - Purdue Ski Team - Purdue Ski Club - Lambda Chi Alpha
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HI I THINK THAT PEOPLE OR OR AROUND 70-80% OF ALL TEENAGERS LISTEN TO HEAVY
METAL I AM ONE OF THE 20-30% OF TEENS WHO LISTEN TO CLASSICAL,JASS, OPERA OR
ANY OTHER MUSIC OF THE ARTS AND I APRICIATE THAT TYPE OF MUSIC.
ROB WIEBE LANGLEY B.C
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Hi my name is Audrey Wong and you can find me on Ednet somewhere in the
Vancouver Lower Mainland area. I just want to say go canucks. and stop the kkk
and what they are trying to do..
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~name (
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: I got a reason why it wont install right.... Your fucking
: LAME..... And pirated warez have nothing to do with it...
: -Stryfe-
Your fucking lame WHAT...
oh, I get it...you meant to write you're. Ahhhh.
*wont*?
pirated warez *has* nothing...
who is the lame one?
**he's sure stoopid...but he's kewl cuz he spellz with a z****
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Being an ocean lover, and spending ALOT of time in the water, I can Say
Jellyfish stings (depending on the species) can REALLY, REALLY be painful.
So, it's not drugs or anything else. I got stung by a Portugese-Man-of-War,
and a Box Jelly fish
(at seprate times!) and It was THE MOST PAINFUL experience of my life. No
lie! The nematocyst cells of a jelly fish (the cells that sting) really put
the muscle cells into shock, and depending on the sting, can have lasting
effects for weeks. If you were ever stung by a Jelly you know what I mean.
People have Died from Jelly stings!
So I'm sick of the "What's The Real Story Behind Jerry's Cancellation"
Threads!!!
Stop the insinuations!
Thank You for letting me get this off my chest!!
See ya at Oaktown in TWO WEEKS! YEAH!
