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Hello,

can anybody tell me if it is possible to analyse RTP or RTCP flows with
netramet ?
Does anyone try to do it for the moment being, or am I the first to =
think
about it=A0?
I understood RTP/RTCP flows will spread a lot and will consume a lot of
bandwidth, so I'd like to measure them in real time with the netramet =
tool,
but it doesn't use a fixed port like HTTP for example.=20
So is it possible=A0?

Bruno

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Has anybody out there compiled Netramet for Irix (6.2 > ) ?
Love to hear some of your experiences.

Marco Mackenbach


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NeTraMet focuses primarily on the packet headers.
RTP (header and data) is generally carried in UDP payload.
So while the short answer is "yes", it would take some work
to get detailed information into the NeTraMet snmp data.

You might want to also take a look at MultiMON
http://www.merci.crc.doc.ca/mbone/MultiMON/

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>
>can anybody tell me if it is possible to analyse RTP or RTCP flows with
>netramet ?
>Does anyone try to do it for the moment being, or am I the first to think
>about it ?
>I understood RTP/RTCP flows will spread a lot and will consume a lot of
>bandwidth, so I'd like to measure them in real time with the netramet tool,
>but it doesn't use a fixed port like HTTP for example.
>So is it possible ?
>
>Bruno


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Hello!

I've just grabbed the dist and docs and am reading the nice docs
that you folks have put together.  But, before I spend a bunch of
time learning your program, and possibly find that it will not do
what I want, could any of you answer these quickies?

Can I get summary statistics on the flows?  I'd love

   a.  histogram of flow durations, binned
   b.  histogram of flow start time, binned into hour of day
   c.  histogram of "idle time" - ie, no flows, binned by
       duration
   d.  histogram of packet sizes, binned by size, of all
       packets received

Does the Netramet software provide the stats?  Or, alternatively,
provide the raw data in a format that I could analyze?

Has anyone else already made a ruleset for all this?  If so, can
I get a copy?

Greg

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Hello Greg:

> what I want, could any of you answer these quickies?
>
> Can I get summary statistics on the flows?  I'd love
>
>     a.  histogram of flow durations, binned
>     b.  histogram of flow start time, binned into hour of day
>     c.  histogram of "idle time" - ie, no flows, binned by
>         duration
>     d.  histogram of packet sizes, binned by size, of all
>         packets received
>
> Does the Netramet software provide the stats?  Or, alternatively,
> provide the raw data in a format that I could analyze?

a, b and c can certainly be done - I'd do this by writing a rule set
in SRL (then comiling it toget the actual .rules file) for the flows
I was interested in, using NeMaC to collect flow data files (would
10 minute samples should be enough for the 1-hour binning?), then
writing perl scripts to analyse the resulting flow data files.
None of this is hard, it just takes quite a lot of work!

d can be done using the ToPacketSize or FromPacketSize distributions.
These are implemented in the current version (if you're just starting,
use 4.3b9 from the beta-versions directory).  They're undocumented in
the NeTraMet document (they will be, real soon now), but they're
described in the RTFM: New Attributes Internet Draft. (Look on
the RTFM web page, www.auckland.ac.nz/net/Internet/rtfm

> Has anyone else already made a ruleset for all this?  If so, can
> I get a copy?

You could start with the nifty.srl rulset - you'll need to add
a format statement to get NeMaC to read flow data from the meter.

Cheers, Nevil

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Hi!

I'm new to Netramet. I have downloaded the linux binaries and they seem
to work.  I have tried to run both in the same linux machine. The
Netramet seems to be working but I can't succeed with the Nemac.

The first problem comes when I try to verify the syntax of any of the
sample files. When I run:

/home/trafficmgr/NetraMet/manager/NeMaC -s -v -r rules.default

the output complains,

NeMaC: NeTraMet Manager & Controller V4.2
line 7: s is rule 1
line 7: t is rule 1
>>> No SET statement in rule file rules.default

1 errors in rule file(s) rules.default

In addition, when I try to download the rules, I also get problems. I
start Netramet with:

/NeTraMet -i eth0 -m 1161 -r read1 -w write1 -k &

And then NeMaC with,

/NeMaC -c20 -u -m 1161 158.109.0.87 write1

the system complains:

Using MIB file: /home/trafficmgr/NeTraMet422/mib/mib.txt
Community write1 doesn't have write access to meter 158.109.0.87!
  Collections won't trigger recovery of idle flows <<<

I suppose the problem must be quite easy to solve, but I have tried and
I don't succeed. Can anyone help me?

Thanks in advance,

Juan Antonio

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I constantly get this error on config:

checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no
>>>>> Motif not found: won't be able to build nifty
checking for ANSI C header files... yes

I've tried with both Motif 2.1 installed, and with lesstif
installed.  It simply cannot find motif!

I'm using a RedHat 5.2 Linux box, fairly normal, with RedHat's
Motif, and the Lesstif was from lesstif.org (their RPM).

I am likley doing something wrong - any clues?  Have you ever got
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Help appreciated - I'm going crazy!

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testing

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Got your message.

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, LO, Ho Fung wrote:

> testing
>


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Hi,
I did install netramet4.3b1 on FreeBSD 3.1 version.
All apears ok but when I try to run NeTraMet -i <ip> I have the mesage:
NeTraMet: Network Meter v4.3b1
Running on <name_ip> pcap_open_live(<ip>): <ip>: Device not configured

OBS.: The machine that uses the number <ip> too have FreeBSD 3.1
installed.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks.

Marcelo S. Freitas



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Dear NeTraMet users,

it is our pleasure to inform you that IPmeter-0.9b is now officially
released on

       http://www.ipmeter.com

IPmeter is a network usage metering and billing application for IP
traffic. The IPmeter system collects network flow counters from metering
nodes and uses this transaction data to generate graphical usage
reports. NeTraMet is being used as the metering engine and is bundled
with the IPmeter distribution.

IPmeter configures and installs automatically with a minimum of user
input. The package is configurable as a meter-only install (which will
install
NeTraMet) or as a meter/manager install (this will also install the
manager
and analysis modules). The IPmeter analyzer is capable of handling
multiple
meter configurations. IPmeter is known to work under FreeBSD and OpenBSD
and is
currently being tested under IRIX.

The next major release will inject the filtered traffic data into an
RDBMS such as PostgreSQL, which we think will considerably facilitate
analysis,
graphing and rating. Also, certain cosmetic improvements will be added
to the
Web management interface (such as locale support).

IPmeter aims to make network accounting feasible and affordable in terms
of price
and implementation time. All of the software is completely FREE and open
source (under GPL), so feel free to experiment or  redistribute. As we
move the package out of beta,
we will offer support subscriptions based on a commercial open source
model.

Questions, remarks or bug reports concerning IPmeter should be posted to
the appropriate
ipmeter mailing list:

       [email protected]
       [email protected]

You can use a scriptlet on the http://www.ipmeter.com/download.html
section of the website to subscribe to these mailing lists, as well as
to

       [email protected]

Enjoy using IPmeter!


- Lorand Bruhacs

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Lorand Bruhacs, Internet Engineer
IP23 Gesellschaft fuer IP-basierte Dienstleistungen mbH
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Patricia Magna wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I did install netramet4.3b1 on FreeBSD 3.1 version.
> All apears ok but when I try to run NeTraMet -i <ip> I have the mesage:
> NeTraMet: Network Meter v4.3b1
> Running on <name_ip> pcap_open_live(<ip>): <ip>: Device not configured
>
> OBS.: The machine that uses the number <ip> too have FreeBSD 3.1
> installed.
>
> Can anybody help me?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Marcelo S. Freitas

The meter requires a special kernel. The kernel configuration file must
contain the following entry:

       pseudo-device   bpfilter 4

Associated devices must be created in /dev :

cd /dev
MAKDEV bpf0

see:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html

Hope that helps.
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Wolfgang Wilhelmy                           [email protected]
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