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Hi all.
Is there an archive of the the list somewhere on the web?
As I am new to the list, I wouldn't like to bother you with matters that
might have already been discussed in the past...
Thanks,
George
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Greetings NeTraMet Users and RRD-Users,
NeTraMet - Network Traffic Meter and Network Traffic Meter Monitoring setups
allow network traffic categorization and massing of informational statistics
RRDtool - A tool to manipulate Round Robin Databases which are used to store
fixed time frame data and graph the resulting data.
(For anyone on either side who doesnt know)
I am working on a way to integrate these two programs and I was interested in
asking questions to the people who use these tools. If you have anything to say
about any of the topics please reply.
Is there a prexisting link package or common method to join the two?
What would you like to have in such a package (ie features of it's on and
supported features of either project )?
To people who have already attempted such a fusion is there any advice that can
be offered?
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Ehllo everyone. Which attribute contain information about destination interface
_on_router_ ( i.e. cisco ), for flow ? ( Serial1/0, Etherren3 etc ).
In the manual no info about it. Thank you.
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Hello.
You can find the information you want at the Netramet 4.3 manual, page 10,
paragraph "3.9 General Attributes".
Just in mind that the attribute DestInterface is an snmp ifIndex number and
not the description of the interface (e.g. Serial0/0 etc).
Regards to all,
George
At 00:34 10-01-01,
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>Ehllo everyone. Which attribute contain information about destination
>interface
>_on_router_ ( i.e. cisco ), for flow ? ( Serial1/0, Etherren3 etc ).
>In the manual no info about it. Thank you.
>
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> konsul mailto:
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Konsul, first of all, I assume that you are using netflowmet and not
netramet, right?
If so, then what type is your Cisco? (26xx?)
From the log line that you sent me, it looks like you are having a routing
problem...
You cisco has exported a flow with source IP address 212.30.151.111 and
destination address 212.30.151.3. As you mention, these 2 addresses are on
the same interface (FastEthernet0/0). This flow shouldn't exist at all,
because packets from 212.30.151.111 shouldn't be routed through your cisco
in order to reach destination 212.30.151.3, they are on the same cable.
I suggest that you check your routing first.
Regards,
George
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>
>Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 11:41:48 AM, you wrote:
>
>GP> Hello.
>GP> You can find the information you want at the Netramet 4.3 manual, page
>10,
>GP> paragraph "3.9 General Attributes".
>GP> Just in mind that the attribute DestInterface is an snmp ifIndex
>number and
>GP> not the description of the interface (e.g. Serial0/0 etc).
> Yes, i show it. But this attribute always return `1' value ( if rules
>contain SAVE DestInterface dircetive ) or zero value, if not. i.e.
>sample rules example
>--------------------------
>DEFINE ua = (212.30.151/24, 212.30.170/24);
>IF SourcePeerType == IP SAVE ;
>ELSE IGNORE; # Not IP
>SAVE SourcePeerAddress/32;
>SAVE DestPeerAddress/32;
>SAVE SourceInterface;
>SAVE DestInterface;
>COUNT;
>SET 5;
>FORMAT FlowRuleSet FlowIndex FirstTime " "
> SourcePeerType " "
> SourcePeerAddress DestPeerAddress " "
> ToOctets FromOctets SourceInterface DestInterface;
>STATISTICS ;
>-----------
> and folowing in log:
>----
> 12 12261 13048142 1 212.30.151.111 212.30.151.3 495 690 1 1
>----
> '1' - it's our internet link, called Serial1/0
> but packets with source address 212.30.151.0/24 not in Serial1/0
> subnet, it's a FastEthernet0/0 ...
>
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Hi all.
I am currently running netflowmet on a redhat6.2 box, collecting flows from
a cisco 2600, IOS 12.0. I am exporting netflow ver5 flows.
Here is what i collect:
##NeTraMet v4.4: -c60 -r ../rules/general.rules 127.0.0.1 udp-9996 20000
flows starting at 18:30:35 Mon 15 Jan 2001
#Format:
flowruleset flowindex firsttime | sourcepeeraddress:sourcetransaddress
-> destpeeraddress:desttransaddress | tooctets fromoctets | sourceinterfa
ce destinterface
#Time: 18:30:35 Mon 15 Jan 2001 127.0.0.1 Flows from 0 to 45771
#Ruleset: 2 2 ../rules/general.rules NeTraMet
#Stats: aps=377 apb=0 mps=9180 mpb=0 lsp=0 avi=100.0 mni=99.0 fiu=22
frc=523 gci=10 rpp=0.0 tpp=0.0 cpt=1.0 tts=16381 tsu=20
2 3699 2575362950 | 212.251.96.163:80 ->
194.219.219.149:1103 | 34304 0 | 2 3
2 3700 1716350078 | 194.219.219.149:1105 ->
212.251.96.163:80 | 9623 51450 | 3 2
2 3701 15163262 | 194.83.240.32:3772 ->
212.251.96.164:80 | 789 349 | 3 2
2 3702 3442676348 | 212.251.96.163:33327 ->
194.83.240.4:53 | 144 0 | 2 3
2 3703 3442676352 | 194.25.2.130:53 ->
212.251.96.163:33327 | 276 0 | 3 2
2 3704 2575320431 | 194.83.240.34:1024 ->
212.251.96.163:53 | 63 210 | 3 2
2 3705 857399152 | 212.251.96.163:80 ->
208.184.149.246:44253 | 3088 0 | 2 3
2 3706 865742215 | 212.251.96.163:51212 ->
194.63.247.208:80 | 458 0 | 2 3
2 3707 6808183 | 212.251.96.163:51213 ->
216.246.5.7:80 | 509 8324 | 2 3
2 3708 1707952506 | 212.251.96.163:51214 ->
192.215.73.2:80 | 594 14080 | 2 3
2 3709 6780537 | 139.91.200.193:3303 ->
212.251.96.163:53 | 1445 4760 | 3 2
2 3710 1716386935 | 195.14.156.60:1221 ->
212.251.96.162:80 | 630 498 | 3 2
2 3711 857347696 | 151.21.72.163:1614 ->
212.251.96.164:80 | 686 0 | 3 2
2 3712 1707952766 | 212.251.96.164:80 ->
195.14.156.60:1227 | 168 0 | 2 3
Take a look at the FirstTime column. There are flows with even 3 orders of
magnitude difference!!!
Does anybody have a clue about this? What does FirstTime represent in
netflowmet files?
Thanx in advance,
George
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Hello all:
George Perantinos said ..
> I am currently running netflowmet on a redhat6.2 box, collecting flows from
> a cisco 2600, IOS 12.0. I am exporting netflow ver5 flows.
> Here is what i collect:
> 2 3700 1716350078 | 194.219.219.149:1105 -> 212.251.96.163:80 |
9623 51450 | 3 2
> 2 3701 15163262 | 194.83.240.32:3772 -> 212.251.96.164:80 |
789 349 | 3 2
> 2 3709 6780537 | 139.91.200.193:3303 -> 212.251.96.163:53 |
1445 4760 | 3 2
and asked ..
> Take a look at the FirstTime column. There are flows with even 3 orders of
> magnitude difference!!!
> Does anybody have a clue about this? What does FirstTime represent in
> netflowmet files?
Well, RTFM's FirstTime attribute is the time (in SNMP Timeticks, i.e.
centiseconds) the first packet for the flow was observed, with time
origin being the time the meter began running.
These times came from NetFlow data records, it ought to mean that some
of the flows have been active for a very long time, but 3 orders of
magnitude ??? Has anyone else seen this sort of thing?
Cheers, Nevil
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Hello everyone, it's again me :) after first configure, i'm set up the
cron job on the host by next shedule: at 0:00 starting the script,
which kill the NeMaC process, compress and move flow data files, and
restart NeMaC (NetFlowMet running always). But yestarday, after
restart, Nemac did not collect any flow to the file, while log-file
contain next string:
09:00:01 Wed 17 Jan 2001 -- Meter 212.30.151.2 in Flood mode!
09:02:00 Wed 17 Jan 2001 -- Meter 212.30.151.2 in Flood mode!
( 2 minits - is collect interval ). I'm kill and restart Nemac, but
this do not has effect.I restart Netramet, and this restore normal functional.
What is this ?
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>These times came from NetFlow data records, it ought to mean that some
>of the flows have been active for a very long time, but 3 orders of
>magnitude ??? Has anyone else seen this sort of thing?
I think so, though it's way back in my memory. I had cause to
poke in this area when beset by an overflow problem long ago.
I believe the NetFlow data fields(*) in question are
ulong SysUptime; /* Current time in msecs since router booted */
and
ulong First; /* SysUptime at start of flow */
Note CISCO's use of millisecs rather than SNMP's use of centisecs.
If I've done the sums right and not tripped over overflows in the
process, these fields will overflow (wrap) after about seven weeks,
which is not an impossibly long time for a router to stay up or for
a trickle flow to persist.
(*) See
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/neflct/tech/napps_wp.htm
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At 11:50 17-01-01, Tony Stoneley wrote:
> >These times came from NetFlow data records, it ought to mean that some
> >of the flows have been active for a very long time, but 3 orders of
> >magnitude ??? Has anyone else seen this sort of thing?
>
>I think so, though it's way back in my memory. I had cause to
>poke in this area when beset by an overflow problem long ago.
>
>I believe the NetFlow data fields(*) in question are
>ulong SysUptime; /* Current time in msecs since router booted */
>and
>ulong First; /* SysUptime at start of flow */
>
>Note CISCO's use of millisecs rather than SNMP's use of centisecs.
>If I've done the sums right and not tripped over overflows in the
>process, these fields will overflow (wrap) after about seven weeks,
>which is not an impossibly long time for a router to stay up or for
>a trickle flow to persist.
Tony, thanx for your answer, but I have already examined these cases.
Moreover, I upgraded my IOS this morning from 12.0.7 to 12.0.15, but the
result is still the same. I mean that although my system uptime is only
some hours (rebooted today to activate new IOS image), the FirstTime
attributes I collect have even 10 digit numbers (which means that I have
flows more than 277 hours old...).
Take a look (FirstTime is the third column, FlowIndex is the second):
11 20 3858713111 | 212.251.96.164:7000 ->
194.219.219.17:1041 | 356 120 | 2 3
11 21 20608 | 212.251.96.164:80 -> 212.205.64.10:3959 | 309 0 | 2 3
11 22 3435928602 | 151.196.0.37:53 ->
212.251.96.163:1024 | 948 0 | 3 2
11 23 867428616 | 212.251.96.163:80 ->
195.97.116.91:1911 | 48 0 | 2 3
I'm begining to suspect either an arithmetic error somewhere (Linux or
Netflowmet) or a cisco bug.
Allow me to state another question to the list:
Is there anybody here collecting flows from a cisco and gets reasonable
FirstTime attributes?
>(*) See
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/neflct/tech/napps_wp.htm
>
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Subject: Bug in NeTraMet package
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Hi dear developers,
while i was testing the NeTraMet package, a strage error occoured. If y=
ou
compile the package with the static linked libpcap (0.4.x -> 0.6.1)
NeTraMet doesn=B4t set promisc mode on my ethernet interface. I fixed i=
t by a
script which starts NeTraMet and after this it sets promisc mode on the=
specified interface by using ifconfig ethx promisc.
It seems so that the bug is in the NeTraMet package.
bye .. Sven Ludwig
(and thx for the fix ;)=