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From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty)
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Subject: CFV: comp.lang.perl.moderated moderated
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                    FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
              moderated group comp.lang.perl.moderated

Usenet readers may now vote on the proposed worldwide newsgroup
comp.lang.perl.moderated.  This CFV contains information about both
the voting process and the proposed group; please read the entire CFV
before voting.

Only the votetaker is authorized to distribute this CFV.  Do not post
it to any newsgroup, mail it to any person or mailing list, or place
it on the World Wide Web.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone except
the votetaker will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.perl.moderated        Perl language. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 1 Jul 1998.

A neutral, third-party volunteer is conducting this vote.  Direct
questions about the vote to the votetaker, and questions about the
proposed group to the proponents.

Proponent: Mark-Jason Dominus <[email protected]>
Proponent: Chip Salzenberg <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: comp.lang.perl.moderated

The comp.lang.perl.misc group presently has very high traffic:
typically about 250 articles per day.  Much of this traffic is given
over to people asking off-topic questions, and questions answered in
the FAQ.

In these circumstances, a number of regular posters to the group have
stopped reading comp.lang.perl.misc, while new readers can find it
difficult to find relevant posts.  The result is reduced usefulness of
the existing comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.

This comp.lang.perl.moderated group is proposed as high
signal-to-noise group where readers will not be subjected to the types
of articles described above. The intention is to provide a useful
resource for inexperienced Perl programmers and to attract and retain
experienced programmers who can make a substantial contribution to the
group.

Comp.lang.perl.misc would still be left in place for more general
discussion, and for those topics that no one seems to agree on a place
for.

CHARTER: comp.lang.perl.moderated

The purpose of comp.lang.perl.moderated is to provide a forum for
discussion of matters related to the Perl programming language.

Comp.lang.perl.moderated is a moderated news group for discussion of
common Perl programming issues.  Welcomed topics of discussion will
include any topic directly related to the Perl programming language.
The moderators will decide which posts are of general interest to the
worldwide Perl community.  The moderators are free to reject any post
which is covered by the comp.lang.perl FAQ(s) or which is more
appropriate to another Usenet discussion group.  Obvious homework
problems and trivial questions that can be answered by quick
inspection of the on-line documentation or any Perl text may also be
considered off-topic.  Very broad questions which could equally apply
to any computer programming language may also be considered off-topic
by the moderators.  Advocacy and "flame wars" about Perl will be
considered off-topic.

Articles should be formatted so as to be easily readable by any Usenet
reader.  Badly formatted or munged articles and articles in violation
of the standard principles of netiquette may be rejected by the
moderators.

Overall, the moderators will lean towards accepting articles.

All posters to the group must be registered.  Submissions from
registered posters will be forwarded to a moderator, who will post it
to the group if it is appropriate.  Inappropriate articles will be
returned to the poster when possible, with an explanation of why the
article was rejected.  No attempt will be made to verify the validity
of the poster's address, and bounces will be discarded.  If feasible,
some mechanism will be provided for users to post under false
addresses until some better solution to the spamming problem appears.

Articles from first-time posters will be held temporarily.  The poster
will be sent registration instructions, the group charter, and
pointers to relevant references.  After the poster registers, the held
article will be forwarded to the moderation panel as usual.

No commercial posts of any sort will be allowed in the group.

The moderation panel will always consist of at least six members.  New
moderators may be appointed, and old ones removed, by a two-thirds
majority vote of the moderation panel.

Any article submitted by a member of the moderation panel outside the
exercise of his or her administrative role will be subject to the full
moderation procedure described herein.

The moderation panel may implement any technical solutions it
considers necessary to enforce the provisions of this charter.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.lang.perl.moderated

Moderator: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
Moderator: Greg Bacon <[email protected]>
Moderator: Hildo Biersma <[email protected]>
Moderator: Mark-Jason Dominus <[email protected]>
Moderator: Eric Eisenhart <[email protected]>
Moderator: "M.J.T. Guy" <[email protected]>
Moderator: Tad McClellan <[email protected]>
Moderator: Chris Nandor <[email protected]>
Moderator: "Nathan V. Patwardhan" <[email protected]>
Moderator: "Stephen P. Potter" <[email protected]>
Moderator: Stephen Zander <[email protected]>

Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION:

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed group, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV; instead,
direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address she cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at <[email protected]>.

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DISTRIBUTION:

This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups
  news.groups
  comp.lang.perl.announce
  comp.lang.perl.misc

Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in the newsgroup
comp.lang.perl.modules and on the perl5-porters mailing list.

The CFV is also available by e-mail from the votetaker.

--
Rebecca Graham McQuitty                   Member, Usenet Volunteer Votetakers

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