CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Gary Malkin/Bay Networks

Minutes of the Responsible Use of the Network Working Group (RUN)


Status Update


Chairpersons            Sally Hambridge / [email protected]
                       Gary Scott Malkin / [email protected]

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Date of meeting         Munich IETF / August 12, 1997

Progress                This was the third meeting of the revived RUN
                       WG.  The group met in a short (one hour) time
                       slot.  We accomplished all of the goals set forth
                       in the Agenda for the meeting; specifically, we
                       reviewed draft-ietf-run-spew-01.txt and the
                       Responsible Adversiting draft.

Agenda

       10 mins - Welcome/Introductions/Administrivia
       30 mins - Review draft-ietf-run-spew-01.txt
       15 mins - Review Responsible Adversiting draft/outline
        5 mins - AOB/wrap-up

The "Don't Spew" I-D went recieved mostly editorial and minor
modifications.  There was additional discussion over the issue
of "spam."

General:
       It was decided to remove the Hormel Trademark because the document
       clearly states that the term derives from the Monty Python sketch.
       That Spam is a product of Hormel will be mentioned in the paragraph
       after the derivation explanation.

       Put in the message: "Think twice before responding to advertising
       and business practices (somewhere).

Section 3, para 5:
       Mention theft of Service
       Free speech doesn't require anyone else to listen

*, para 7:
       Per person increase

Section 4a:
       Add more caution about copying local postmaster

Section 5, para 2:
       Strengthen wording about killing relay hosts
       Need hostname last hop
       Avoid accidently blocking MX records

*, para 3:
       Reverse DNS lookup
       Add pointers to stuff on the net

Section 6, para 1:
       Use descriptions rather than "upstream" and "downstream"

*, para 2:
       Close servers except for legitimate users

*, para 6:
       Catch spammers on "interfering with network" clauses
       Charge "clean-up" fee

Section 7 (mislabeled as 6 in doc), para 1:
       Exercise discretion and good taste

The advertising draft was well received.  The new working title is
"Make Enemies Fast."

General:
       Why you can't make money fast
       Pull stuff from MMF site

Section 3:
       Move para 4 to para 1.

Section 4, para 1:
       Add "Per your request" example
       Avoid aggravating headers like "Our research shows your interest..."

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