CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Robert Hagens/University of Wisconsin


AGENDA


  o General Meeting
  o Updates
     -  BSD 4.4
     -  New Revision RFC 1069
     -  Echo RFC
     -  GOSIP Comments
  o OSI at Interop 89
  o Results of the MITRE congestion avoidance experiments
  o State of the OSIIWG -- accomplishments and future work


MINUTES

The meeting was convened by co-chairmen Ross Callon and Rob Hagens.  An
attendance list will be published with the Proceedings of the IETF.

A series of brief status updates on the following topics were presented:


  o BSD 4.4:  An ISODE/BSD interface has been constructed and tested.
    Alpha copies have been distributed to a small number of sites.
    Work is still in progress fixing bugs, testing, etc.
  o New revision of RFC 1069.  The newest version of RFC 1069,
    compatible with the GOSIP V2 (if the OSIIWG comments are accepted)
    has been prepared.  Its submission to the RFC editor will be
    delayed until GOSIP V2 is released.
  o The ECHO RFC has been released as an Internet Draft.  This RFC
    specifies how to implement an ECHO facility with ISO 8473.  The WG
    reviewed the document and found (with 2 minor editing changes) it
    ready to be sent to the RFC editor.
  o There is no official word from NIST regarding the OSIIWG GOSIP V2
    comments.  A representitive of the OSIIWG will attend the next
    GOSIP Advanced Requirements Committee meeting.
  o GSA has a contract to administer ICD 0005 (although NIST still
    maintains authority).  The DCA use of 0006 is unknown.  NIST
    currently supports the use of 0005 by the entire Internet.
    Policies for the use of 0005 have not yet been established.  Those
    with strong interests in future policy should contact:

                         Mr.  Gerard F. Mulvenna
                      Technology Building, Room B-217
              National Institute of Standards and Technology
                          Gaithersburg, MD 20899

Dave Katz presented his OSI experiences at Interop, 89.

Rick Wilder presented preliminary results of the MITRE congestion
avoidance experiments.

Following this, the state of the OSIIWG was discussed.  A list of new
working groups that need to be formed was presented.  This list includes
the reorganization of the OSIIWG into the OSI-General WG.

Note:  the OSI-RA group may be split into two separate groups, one to
produce NSAP administration guidelines, and the other to follow upper
layer registration policy.

Finally, the list of current and future work of the OSI Area was
presented:


                 IETF OSIIWG STATUS/Callon and Hagens


Agreements and future work of the IETF OSIIWG


                                DRAFT


 1. Physical Layer
    (a) Accomplishments and Agreements
         o None identified.
    (b) Future Work
         o None identified.
 2. Link Layer
    (a) Accomplishments and Agreements
         o None identified.
    (b) Future Work
       o Distinguishing packets on the wire
       o HDLC
       o X.25
3. Network Layer
  (a) Accomplishments and Agreements
      i. Data transfer
           oISO 8473/use as specified
     ii. Routing
           oISO 9542/use as specified
           oIntra-domain routing/use ANSI IS-IS as presented as
            draft proposal
            use ANSI IS-IS as presented as draft proposal.
           oInter-domain routing use static tables.
     iii.ISO 8473 Echo
            A draft RFC has been prepared.  It describes an echo
            function that is realized by defining a new network
            selector that indicates an echo entity.  This is
            backward compatable with existing 8473 packets.
     iv. NSAP address format
           oRFC 1069 RFC 1069 has been updated to align with the
            GOSIP V2 NSAP address format.
           oNSAP Selectors OSIIWG comments on GOSIP V2 recommend
            that GOSIP V2 should not specify the format of the NSAP
            selector value.
  (b) Future Work
      i. ISO 8473 Echo
            Initiate a new ANSI X3S3.3 work item to propose a
            CLNP echo function to ISO. This echo function is
            realized by defining a new protocol type field.  This
            is not backward compatable with existing 8473
            packets.
     ii. NSAP address format
           oNSAP Administration Design and write procedures for
            administering NSAP address heirarchies.
           oICD Usage Determine whether the Internet should register
            under ICD 0005 or ICD 0006 or both.  Coordinate with any
            previous NIST/GSA agreements, or motivate new
            agreements.
     iii.CO/CL
            We should track the CO/CL interworking status in
            X3S3.3.
4. Transport Layer
  (a) Accomplishments and Agreements
         Recommend that GOSIP V2 mandate NIST agreements
         regarding congestion recovery algorithms and related
         retransmission timer algorithms.
  (b) Future Work
         None identified.
5. Session Layer
  (a) Accomplishments and Agreements
         None identified.
  (b) Future Work
         None identified.
6. Presentation Layer
  (a) Accomplishments and Agreements
         None identified.
  (b) Future Work
         None identified.
7. Application Layer
  (a) X.400
      i. Accomplishments and Agreements
           oPRMD name
            The intended use of "NREN" as a PRMD name is to identify
            a management domain within which every registered
            Internet entity has a default X.400 Address.  This
            address would be based upon the Internet domain name.
            We expect some or all currently registered entities to
            decide for them- selves whether they wish to use the
            default or register another name in another way.  This
            default provides a useful and helpful option without
            constraining any individual entity to keep what the
            default provides for them.
     ii. Future Work
          A.GOSIP V2

            Work with the GOSIP user's group to rewrite the X.400
            ORAddress section.
          B.822 <-> X.400 gateway operation
            o Table Maintenance
            o Locating a Gateway
            o ORAddress Structure
          C.X.400 operation
            o Default naming
            o Taxonomy of issues Write a memo which describes the
              needs of X.400 addressing, X.400/RFC 822 address
              mapping, and utilization of an X.500 directory
              service.  (In Progress).
  (b) Registration and Naming
      i. Accomplishments and Agreements:
         See "NREN".
     ii. Future Work
           oNSAP administration See NSAP administration under
            Network Layer.
           oNSAP and ORAddress relationships Explore the
            relationship between NSAP addresses and X.400
            ORAddresses.  Should the NSAP address field
            "oganization" under ICD 0005 be used in the X.400
            ORAddress "organization" field to reduce administration
            complexity?
           oEstablishing Ownership Identify necessary steps we must
            take to assert that the name "NREN" belongs to the
            FRICC.
  (c) Directory Services
      i. Accomplishments and Agreements

         None.
     ii. Future Work
          A.X.500 and Internet DNS

            Explore coexistence/interactions between X.500 and the
            Internet DNS
          B.Missing Pieces

            Locate missing pieces required by a production system
            (format of objects, choice of dis- tinguished names,
            etc.)
          C.Requirements of a dual protocol internet

            o Application Gateways Identification of application
              gateways needed for communication between
              heterogenous, pure stack hosts.  In addition, support
              for the deci- sion to gateway (i.e., forward as X.400
              message or translate into RFC 822).
            o Stack Choice Identification of optimal protocol stack
              choice for dual hosts (based upon the destination sys-
              tem).
  (d) VTP
      i. Accomplishments and Agreements

         None
     ii. Future Work

         Look for problems with Telnet/VTP interaction.
  (e) FTAM
      i. Accomplishments and Agreements

         None
     ii. Future Work

         Look for problems with FTAM/FTP interaction.
  (f) Network Management
      i. Accomplishments and Agreements

         None
     ii. Future Work

           oCMIP
           oOSI MIB
8. General Future Work
  (a) Mixed Stack

      GOSIP prohibits a mixed stack approach.  Do mixed stacks have
      enought merit that they should be allowed?
  (b) Mixed Technology

      Can OSI problems be solved with internet technol- ogy?  Will
      the Internet incorporate OSI technology?  For example, can
      X.400 routing utilize the DNS, in the absense of X.500?
  (c) Document Review
       o GOSIP

o ANSI specifications
o FRICC Multi-Protocol Implementation Plan