CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Tim Howes/University of Michigan

Minutes of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group (IDS)


Review of Previous Minutes

The minutes from the Amsterdam meeting were accepted without change.


Liaison Reports

  o North American Directory Forum (NADF)

    Tim Howes served as unofficial liaison to the NADF and reported
    that the NADF continues its piloting activities and has opened up
    its membership to user organizations (as well as service provider
    organizations).  The next NADF meeting is in Reston, VA the week of
    November 8.

  o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service Working Group (WNILS)

    Chris Weider reported that the centroids and overall architecture
    documents have been out for some time and that the WHOIS++ document
    would be out shortly.


Status Reports

  o WHOIS++

    Chris reported there were now 4 implementations of WHOIS++ servers,
    one of which supports centroids.  Client development is proceeding
    or promised for several client platforms, but none are available
    yet.

  o Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP)

    Tim reported that version 3.0 of the University of Michigan LDAP
    distribution was released just before the Houston IETF. It includes
    a server and several client implementations.


Progress of Documents

  o X.500 Implementation Catalog - Sri Sataluri and Arlene Getchell

    This document was to be considered for publication as an FYI. There
    was general disappointment at the lack of response from many
    vendors who are known to have X.500 products, despite the valiant
    and tenacious efforts of Sri and Arlene.  Ken Rossen volunteered to
    beat up on the delinquent vendors and try to extract some more
    responses, as he has some contact with them at the OIW. It was
    agreed that progression of this document would be held up pending
    these responses.  It was further agreed that in order to avoid
    beatings for the delinquent co-chairs, we would only wait until
    November 24 for responses, after which time the document would be
    progressed ASAP.

    ACTION: Ken to get a stick and beat up on vendors.

  o Pilot Project Catalog - April Marine

    April was not at the meeting, but had expressed a desire to
    withdraw this document, since she found much of the same
    information in a Paradise document.  The group had two concerns.
    First, there was concern that the Paradise document might not be as
    timely as it needed to be, and that the Paradise project itself is
    going to be shutting down in April of 94.  Second, there was
    concern that a document was needed in the RFC/FYI series, even if
    it just pointed to another document.

    ACTION: Tim and Chris to talk to April and Paradise about this
    document.

  o WHOIS++ Implementation Catalog - Chris Weider

    Chris reported that this document would be out as an Internet-Draft
    within the next month.  Chris will use a template similar to the
    one used for the X.500 catalog, but the X.500 compliance section
    will be replaced with an options implemented section, in which
    implementors can describe which of the WHOIS++ options they have
    implemented.

  o Model for Information Privacy of Directories - Barbara Jennings

    Apologies were made to Barbara and the group for not distributing
    her document to the IDS discussion list.  Barbara presented the
    main ideas in the document, including considerations that directory
    managers of personal data should have in the following areas:

     -  Data collection (inform users, include only necessary info,
        allow opting out)

     -  Data integrity (provide easy updating, disclose source, check
        for out-of-date data, conduct regular audits for errors)

     -  Data security (keep a record of searches, limit information to
        a need-to-know basis)

     -  Data marketing (ask permission before selling data, provide a
        complete dissemination list)

     -  Legal protection in the US (Privacy Act, Freedom of Information
        Act)

    ACTION: Barbara to flesh out her document and submit it to the
    entire list.

  o Legal Issues for Directories in Europe - Erik Huizer

    Erik was not present, so discussion was postposed.  Erik later
    reported that only small changes have been made since the Amsterdam
    meeting.

  o Introduction to White Pages Services Based on X.500 - A.P. Jurg

    The group discussed how this document differed from the Executive
    Introduction to X.500 (FYI 1308/1309).

  o Overview of Directory Services - Marco Hernandez

    Marco reported that his document would be submitted to the list
    within a matter of days.  There was general agreement that this
    should be pursued as an Informational RFC.

    ACTION: Marco to submit his document to the list.



New Directory Services

The Computing Services Office (CSO) Nameserver protocol was discussed.
In lieu of Joel Cooper from Notre Dame, Chris led the discussion.  CSO
is currently a local directory service, but the consensus of the group
was that there is work to be done in the ``common schema and access''
area, which makes it appropriate for inclusion in IDS.

Chris will talk to Joel Cooper about getting the CSO documents (or
pointers to them) submitted to the list.



AOB

In the CSO discussion it was brought up that a relevant meeting had
occurred earlier in the week.  Tim gave a brief summary of the purpose
and results of the meeting.  The National Science Foundation, finding
itself inundated with many requests to fund directory service efforts,
convened a group of experts in the Internet community for the purpose of
advising NSF on how best to allocate its limited funds to these
projects.

The consensus of the group was that no single white pages directory
service was about to take over the Internet any time soon.  Sites have
extensive flexibility to run whatever they please, for a variety of
reasons.  Therefore, the informal recommendation of the group was for
NSF to diversify itself and fund a variety of white pages directory
service efforts.  Furthermore, the group recommended that another area
worthy of research is a system to tie together the various disparate
white pages directory services.  Tim introduced the basics of one such
plan which had been presented at the meeting by Marshall Rose.  Much
interesting discussion ensued.



Next Meeting

The next meeting of the IDS Working Group will be at the March IETF in
Seattle, WA.



Attendees

Harald Alvestrand        [email protected]
Sepideh Boroumand        [email protected]
Luc Boulianne            [email protected]
Glen Cairns              [email protected]
Peter Deutsch            [email protected]
Urs Eppenberger          [email protected]
Qin Fang                 [email protected]
Jill Foster              [email protected]
Jisoo Geiter             [email protected]
Arlene Getchell          [email protected]
Mei-Jean Goh             [email protected]
Chris Gorsuch            [email protected]
Judith Grass             [email protected]
Roland Hedberg           [email protected]
Marco Hernandez          [email protected]
Tim Howes                [email protected]
Richard Huber            [email protected]
Barbara Jennings         [email protected]
Michael Kornegay         [email protected]
John Kunze               [email protected]
Ben Levy                 [email protected]
Wayne McDilda            [email protected]
Michael McLay            [email protected]
Lars-Gunnar Olsson       [email protected]
Scott Paisley            [email protected]
Rakesh Patel             [email protected]
Karen Petraska-Veum      [email protected]
Richard Rodgers          [email protected]
Kenneth Rossen           [email protected]
Srinivas Sataluri        [email protected]
Richard Schmalgemeier    [email protected]
Rickard Schoultz         [email protected]
Sam Sjogren              [email protected]
Mark Smith               [email protected]
Milan Sova               [email protected]
Margaret St. Pierre      [email protected]
David Staudt             [email protected]
Chris Weider             [email protected]
Brien Wheeler            [email protected]
Jackie Wilson            [email protected]
Russ Wright              [email protected]

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