2) see Sandy's presentation for details on individual comments
Alex: Security analysis draft is outside of the working
charter. (Routing AD)
Ran: Security analysis is certainly within the charter for
a working group.
IDR working group mailing list will discuss the drafts and
whether work on this draft is within the IDR charter.
Alex (Routing AD) will also ask the IESG whether this
subject is part of our scope.
b) Securing BGPv4 using IPsec [draft-ward-bgp-ipsec-00.txt]
a) application/deployment doc and not protocol extension
b) Could be discussed in is:
a) Security policy working group
b) IPS (security policy)
c) IDR information RFC
Question:
1) section 2 - IKE is a "MUST" (an error)
2) No encryption is not an issue to the security
Alex Zinin (as Routing AD)states this is out of the charter for the
working group. We will need to revise the charter to include
this draft. The Routing ADs suggested that we await until
we have the Routing Security BOF to discuss requirements on the list.
c) TCP MD5 draft
Key Requirements for the TCP MD5 Signature Option
draft-ietf-idr-md5-keys-00.txt
[No slides from Marcus, notes are rough]
a) Most credible attack is "key determination" is brute force
Took the current architecture of processors and software to
see what reasonable. The normal keys is a
12-24 byte key length with "ascii" (most common used).
Recommendation: key: use HEX structure
change keys every 90 days
b) IP Sec vs TCP MD5
Experience with public key infrastructures has
shown that a dynamic key infrastructure is difficult
to deploy.
If authentications is the only issue, use TCP MD5. If
encryption and data security is important, IPSEC is the choice.
Using IKE for dynamic Key management may be useful.
Profile for TCP MD5 re-keying for BGP would look different than
OSPF.
c) TCP MD5 versus HMAC MD5 - if start today use HMAC MD5.
4) BGP Integrity Check using IRR
Concerns with the draft:
a) Multi-origin AS are a normal situation and good,
so this portion of the draft should changed
b) IRR can allow multiple origin per prefix
c) Caching of the IRR Checks causes a problem
during start-up