Chair: Harald Alvestrand
Chair: Roland Hedberg
Minutes, Patrik Faltstrom
Agenda was bashed by Harald, which also presented the scope of the discussuions.
The goal is to have a recommendation to the IETF at 11.30 about what to do, if the IETF is going to do anything.
Patrik Faltstrom and Roland Hedberg presented the TISDAG project in Sweden, which is running a proxy/referral service since about a year back.
Harald Alvestrand presented the Katalogforum which is an initiative in Norway for setting up (in the first step) a directory of directories.
Peter Gietz presented the Desire Indexing project which have a subproject which works with white pages information.
During these three presentations, questions were asked about (among other things):
Tagged Index Objects
The ability to reconstruct records
Privacy issues
aggregation of tagged index objects; pro and cons
Size of the index
Crawling (fetching information from servers)
Performance
load impact on servers
versus having servers provide a tagged index object themself
It was said explicitely that we should/could not discuss business models. After discussing the issue a bit, we agreed that we probably have to walk (dangerously) close to the edge between technology architecture and business models. As long as we only talked about technology which enables design of different buissness models, we should be on the safe side.
We discussed what a group like this could discuss, and came up with the following list:
The protocol may be less of a point than the service model; stop talking about protocols?
Real Life means that protocol variations and differences must be handled.
Do we need to document services?
Internationalization and localization?
Integration of White Pages with network (QoS) data? Not particularly popular....."Walk before running"
Do we need to assume a small number of "mediator" organizations? Or is this "open market"?
What is the relation to DNS (server location)
What is the cost of participating in multiple schemes?
Is it too early for this discussion (Too late?)
Is the IETF the right forum? (EMA Directory Track?)
Is there a market for a global interconnectivity?
What is the overall service architecture(s)?
"Price and politics are among the core issues"
Service models
Summary
Description of service models for wide-scale directory
What need a service fills
How the service fills the need
Schema recommendations
Properties need to be part of entry
I18N, multiple-CN names needs trackling
Client properties needed to take advantage of service
Multi-field searches
Referral handling
Testing with referrals in Real Life (tm) needed
Appropriate area is O&M
No new standards
Profiling and usage
Possible places to work
IRTF
Long term, "new field" issues
Existing procol WGs
LDAPEXT, Web groups...
New/restarted protocol WGs
FIND/Schema
EMA
Openness questioned
