CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by David Lippke/UTEXAS

LISTBOF Minutes

The Automated Internet Mailing List Services BOF was held Monday night,
before the regular Working Group meetings on Wednesday and Thursday
mornings.  The purpose in holding the BOF was simply to gather
interested folks in order to conduct a rather open and free-wheeling
discussion about the list server problem and the Working Group's Agenda.

A rather wide-ranging discussion did ensue.  Topics ranged from ``How is
this any different than netnews?'', through the enumeration of specific
features that the ``phase 2'' list server world should offer, and on to
the presentation of interconnection models and the cures for certain
problems that will arise in the ``phase 2'' work.

In spite of the meeting's unstructured format, the group reached three
conclusions:


 1. Simple statement of why the Working Group exists:  Dealing with
    Internet mailing lists is a pain for everyone involved -- users,
    list owners, and postmasters alike.  Internet mailing lists lack
    fundamental features such as access control and standardized
    archive maintenance.  In short, the Internet mailing list world is
    a very primitive one...  one which is in serious need of
    improvement.

 2. Netnews groups and list server lists are closely related methods of
    group communication.  While each has its own area of most
    appropriate application, their services are more alike than
    different and, in particular, they are nearly identical (in
    principle) at the user level.  Consequently, eventual integration
    of their services is expected --- at least at the user interface
    level if not also in the very provisioning of the services
    themselves.

 3. Implementation point:  If the phase 2 world seems to require a new
    (transport-level) protocol definition, the burden of proof (that
    the protocol is actually necessary) rests with the Working Group.


Attendees

Thomas Brisco            [email protected]
James Conklin            [email protected]
John Curran              [email protected]
Johnny Eriksson          [email protected]
Erik Fair                [email protected]
Jill Foster              [email protected]
Maria Gallagher          [email protected]

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Russ Hobby               [email protected]
Neil Katin               [email protected]
Vincent Lau              [email protected]
Eliot Lear               [email protected]
Louis Leon               [email protected]
David Lippke             [email protected]
Daniel Long              [email protected]
Joseph Malcolm           [email protected]
Keith Moore              [email protected]
Chris Myers              [email protected]
Mel Pleasant             [email protected]
Harri Salminen           [email protected]
Theodore Tso
Gregory Vaudreuil        [email protected]



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