Year 2000 WG, August 11 1997, Munich

Minute taker: Philip Nesser
Chair: Erik Huizer

Agenda

1. Opening
2. Review of Research Results So Far
3. Status of Areas
4. ID Setup
5. AOB
6. Scope Discussion

Erik recaps Memphis meeting most eloquently.

Areas
    Email
         No remarks
    DNS
         Timers in security stuff(make it modulo 2^32)
         Serial Numbers
         Robert Elz promises report within one month
    Network Management
       A few MIB's specify date but no format
       Version control in some MIB modules

       SNMP in general should be fine
       Problem in ASN.1.  We should send a liason report to ITU.
    Virtual Terminal
       TN3270 and Telnet are fine, modulo authentication protocols
       SSH should be fine
       X windows still needs more investigation should be passed
           to the Open Group. Janecek, Peter from the Open Group
           formally takes the handoff.

    Info Services & File Transfer
       Report on HTTP.
       1.1 requires 4 digit years from host requirements (RFC1123)
       but allows acceptance of RFC 850.
       HTML should be fine as of RFC 1866


       Nothing on File transfers (ftp, tftp) or other Info services.
       Martin Carpenter volunteers
    News
       Nothing from Erik Fair.  Similar to mail.
       Try sticking it to Stan Barber.
       INN has been given a clean bill of health

    Real Time Services
       AVT & MMUSIC should be asked to look into it.

    Security
       Talk to Bob Moscowitz

    Directory Services
       Rick Wesson reports 6 RFC's that allow 2 or 4 year digits.
       They should be reported to the LDAP and X.500 people for update.
       Erik will talk to ASID WG.
    Disk Sharing
       NFS was given clean bill of health by Barbara Jennings
       However SUN reacted with some comments.
       AFD/DFS  should be passed off to the Open Group
    Autoconfiguration
       BOOTP was okay.
       Still need DHCP & DHCPv6.
       Talk to DHCP WG & IPv6 regarding autoconfiguration.

    Games & Chat
               Still no report
    NTP
               Standard 32 bit rollover in 2036.
    Routing
               BGP4 is okay.  No reports on anything else.
               All IGRP stuff and multicast routing need to done
    IP/TCP/PPP, etc
       Robert Elz .  Interim report. Still busy checking all STD RFC's
       No problems so far except 3 small exceptions.
       Standard 44 (RFC891) has a 1987 bug it contains a 4 bit year offset
           from 1972!
       Standard 25 Daytime protocol has example with 2 year digit.
       Standard 26 Time Server Protocol has the 2036 rolllover problem.
       Robert will continue to work and include RPC items.

Questions:

  Question about X.509.  Problem has been fixed in version 3.

  ID Set-UP
       Should we use prescriptive language?
       We SHOULD use things like words l like MUST.
       Redo introduction after work is finished.
       Should do executive summary with itemized list.
       We should delete all of the appendices when we go to RFC
       and replace with a short summary.

We should point out that various network management platforms compare MIB
versions by a two digit date will need to be fixed.

The WG decided not to do implementations.

If we find standards that require a two digit year, we need to have them
revised.

Any other Business

Any interest is doing a pilot system?  A few people are doing it.  Will
feed back information to WG by DC.

Year 2000 bake off is good idea.

Should we come up with an algorithm to assume a year based on being
given a 2 year date.  Need to comment about relative ages.
(email age versus age of a human) IBM will send in their
version for SNA uses sliding window approach
Decision: WG will include suggested algorithms in the RFC.

Chair should send a message to IESG regarding their responsibility to
check new RFCs for y2k problem.

Whats the scope of the WG?  We only do RFCs and also other popular de
facto standards on the Internet that are not handled by other
standards bodies.

We should get the legal council to write a disclaimer.

New draft by the end of September.

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