Subj : Re: Hemp Buttermilk Corn
To   : Ben Collver
From : Dave Drum
Date : Mon Feb 12 2024 06:39:00

-=> Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

DD> O.K. you made me go look. I had never heard of "hemp milk".

BC> It happens to be my favorite non-dairy "milk" of the bunch to add to
BC> black tea.

I prefer, and always have, mammalian milks.  Bv)=

DD> I've some questions about this recipe though. As I made it in my
DD> head there were some clinkers that bothered me.

BC> My sister made the recipe, so i could ask her if you wish.

DD> I could NOT find buttermilk in the ingredients listing.

BC> I am pretty sure she adapted a recipe from a Better Homes & Gardens
BC> cookbook and substituted hemp milk + vinegar for the buttermilk.

Since you use hemp milk - does the vinegar "clabber" it as it does real
milk?

DD> #1 - That's a tiny amount of onion and likely to get lost in the
DD> flood of other ingredients.

BC> I agree.  Moar yunz plz!

DD> What size cans? 14 oz? 28 oz? Or a #10 (96 oz)

BC> 14 oz cans of corn

That's one of my pet peeves about recipe writers - even people who
do it for a living - calling out a package, can, envelope, etc. of an
ingredient without specifying quantity. One of my most time consuming
things to do when banging in recipes is to edit the ingredients list
to indicate the size of can-tainer being used. It's like English rules
we learned in school. The subject must agree with the predicate.  Bv)=

DD> That's a *lot* of celery if the writer meant the entire plant as
DD> implied by the (head) call-out. My mental taster tells me that's
DD> going to be an overwhelming amount of celery - by a factor of at
DD> leat 2X.

BC> The recipe called for 1 head of celery.  Seems like a lot to me too,
BC> but maybe it was a small head?  Shall i ask?

I'm just curious. In my area a head/bunch/stalk of celery is in the
three or four pound range. That's another I edit when banging in the
ingredients list - many recipe writers seem to think a rib of celery
and a stalk of celery are the same thing. As if.

BC>       1 tb Liquid smoke

DD> That amount of liquid smoke would definitely overwhelm all other
DD> tastes in this dish. If using it I suggest making it "to taste"
DD> (literally) and approaching with caution.

BC> Good idea to change the recipe from 1 tb liquid smoke, to "to taste."

BC> Thanks for the chowder recipe!

BC> Yesterday i made a yellow split pea soup in the crockpot.  The split
BC> peas did not get soupy like i expected them too.  They are edible but
BC> the texture is slightly chewy.  I didn't add any salt while it was
BC> cooking.  My theory is that they were simply too old and dried out.
BC> The bag did not have an expiration date printed on it.

I was not aware that dried beans/peas/pulses had a "best by" date. BTW -
that "use before" or "best by" date is just a guide. And the dates are
chosen with plenty of lee-way.

I package this in pint jars with vacuumable lids for use with my sucky
bag machine and stash them in my pantry. One pint jar makes a nice pot
of soup.

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     Title: French Market Soup Mix
Categories: Soups, Beans
     Yield: 14 Servings

     1 lb Each of the following
          Navy beans
          Great northern beans
          Green split peas
          Yellow split peas
          Black-eyed peas
          Lentils
          Baby limas
          Black beans
          Red beans
          Soy beans
          Barley pearls

 Combine the dried beans and peas.

 Divide into 14 - 2 cup packages.

 From January 1992/ FAMILY

 Shared by Robert Rostrup

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And this is fairly high up on my "round tuit" list.

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     Title: Slow Cooker Split Pea Soup w/Horseradish Cream
Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus
     Yield: 7 servings

     3 tb Olive oil
     1    Yellow or red onion, minced
     3    Celery ribs; thin sliced
     1 lg Carrot; chopped
     5 lg Garlic cloves; smashed &
          - chopped
   1/2 ts Smoked paprika
   1/2 ts Garlic powder
     2    Fresh thyme sprigs, leaves
          - removed
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   1/2 ts Dried thyme
     2    Fresh or dried bay leaves
          Salt & black pepper
     1 lb Smoked ham hock
     1 lb Green or yellow split peas
 5 1/4 c  Chicken stock (or water)
   1/4 c  Dry white wine or vermouth
   1/2    Lemon, juiced (about 1 tb)
     1 c  Sour cream
     2 tb Jarred, drained horseradish
     1 ts Dijon mustard

 In a 6 to 8 quart slow cooker, combine the oil, onion,
 celery, carrot, garlic, smoked paprika, garlic powder,
 thyme, bay leaves, 2 teaspoons salt and a few generous
 grinds of pepper. Add the ham hock, split peas, stock
 and wine, and cook on low until the peas are tender, 8
 to 10 hours.

 Discard the bay leaves. Transfer the ham hock to a bowl.
 Using two forks, pull the meat from the ham hock,
 discard the bone and return the meat to the pot. Stir in
 the lemon juice, then taste the soup, adding more salt
 and pepper if necessary. The soup will thicken as it
 sits; if it is too thick for your taste, stir in a bit
 of warm broth or water.

 Combine the sour cream, horseradish and mustard in a
 small bowl and season with salt and pepper. Serve the
 soup with the horseradish cream for topping.

 By: Sarah DiGregorio

 Yield: 6 to 8 servings

 RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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