Subj : FidoNet total Revamp ...
To : THEBUTLER4
From : Ross Cassell
Date : Sat Jul 12 2008 09:35 am
Hello THEBUTLER4!
Real names please..
11 Jul 08 23:00, you wrote to All:
TH> I have been fighting to setup FidoNet for a while .. and I run into 2
TH> major problems ... 1) the Backbone.na file is screwed I am getting
TH> mail from echos that are not listed in the backbone.na file
Did you miss the updates yesterday?
Do you have additional questions as to the meaning of each file?
Do you have access to your uplinks areafix so that you can make sure you only
receive echoes listed in the backbone.na, or did you merely turn on echoes with
the "*" wildcard?
TH> .. if
TH> there is a change it needs to be changed everywhere and updated and
TH> hatched out.. 2) the other region NA files have the echo tags but no
TH> descriptions .. how are we to know what the damn echo tags are for???
As far as the North American Backbone files go, they are hatched out if a
change is made or warranted, but they arent just for the sake of doing so if no
new information needs dessiminating.
As far as regional echoes go, it is not within the purview of the North
American Backbone to update, maintain, much less distribute files that denote
echo rosters pertinent to specific regions or even nets. If you have a
complaint about regional echo lists, then that needs to be directed at the
powers that be within your region.
The North American Backbone and other backbones, have in the past distributed
regional specific echoes as a service to its various links. What we have had
happen as regional and zone level politics flared up in the past is links make
available regional echoes to people not part of the pertinent region, therefore
most regions have decided to limit distribution of their regional echoes to
strictly within their regions and often directly by that regions RC.
TH> another problem I(WE) are having is everyone is pulling from everyone
TH> else .. If you have a NC in your area than people in that area should
TH> be pulling from them .. not someone across the world .. I dont
TH> understand this .. why would someone setup a FidoNet feed in one state
TH> when there is a NC in that area? .. before setting up new feeds the NC
TH> needs to check to see if there is a feed from a local NC ... That NC
TH> needs to pull from there RC and etc. etc. ...
As it turns out, many whom end up helping move the mail happen to be a
coordinator. I am both a regional coordinator and a net coordinator, I happen
to run a fairly sizeable mailhub and I peer with 3 others whom run sizeable
mailhubs, 2 of them are regional and or net coordinators and the other is the
zone coordinator. Alot of this came to be because we either inherited a
outgoing RC's links when we attained the position or moving mail was what we
were already doing when we attained the position. Other factors are that as
Fidonet shrunk, so has the number of "volunteers".
What you suggest may have been evident in the past and actually far more
feasible during the days of telephone modem transport with the then high LD
costs, but no more.
If you want to talk about what should be, you shouldnt be using your
administrative AKA (1:311/0) to send or receive echomail with, you should be
using your primary non-administrative aka.
I do know what has sparked this, you are the NC of a 2 man net, nothing wrong
today with 2 man nets. Unknown to you, the other man in your net, sought and
received a feed from my system and is using it. You a day or so later also
applied to me for a feed, which is setup by the way, I happened to inform you
of the link, but I suppose you had designs on him feeding from you..
TH> Why is FidoNet so laxed on this now a days .. it needs to be addressed
TH> and fixed!
TH> or am I just screwed in the head?
Food for thought, if we were as strict and to the letter of policy, like we
used to be, your 2 man net wouldnt be permissable. Also for further thought,
under the old days, *C's were discouraged, often prohibited, from moving the
mail. (Too many hats)
The Internet has changed our landscape immensely, it has helped Fidonet in
connecting nodes and transporting mail but it has also drained its numbers.
Those whom refuse to change, cannot survive, by this I mean, we here in Fidonet
Zone One, changed our views in order to keep Fidonet as alive as it can be,
make it tennable, you want to roll all this back to go back to the old ways?
I hope your distress isnt because 1:311/2 decision to feed here?
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