Subj : this echo
To   : Eddy Thilleman
From : Mike Luther
Date : Sun Oct 21 2001 12:08 am

Eddy ..

ml> dagum first message in the area pointer bug
ml> <<sigh>> if i had seen the
ml> indication that there was a message in here, i'd have answered ml>
sooner...

ET> At least your message got out, I don't know why David didn't see it.

As I have tried to explain in the LAN version of all this, it may have to do
with Steve Loupe's 106/1 in Houston.  Two things went badly wrong in Houston of
late which have *NOTHING* to do with Steve's capability or service efforts.

   1.) Houston took a substantial environmental whambo with Mother Nature
       and the weather.  Phone line service was bloto to a lot of places
       between those people who depend on Steve, as well as Steve's
       phone line connections as well.

   2.) More or less in the middle of all this, Steve was 'forced' to
       switch his IP feed source.  As he carefully announced, the
       instructions on how to prepare for that and his intentions as
       to un-interrupted service were very explicit.

       The IP swap game went sour.  Many of us who depend on him,
       including me, had no connections with him for more and a day
       or so.  It appeared that a ton of traffic that was bound from
       him to me stacked up at his site, but I can't be sure all of it
       is what there is.  There is some that was here which I am almost
       sure did *NOT* make it through that HUB.  Included in the missing
       stuff was stuff that I'm absolutely sure got missed in R19SYSOP,
       from what we determined later - which is part of what I stand on
       to make this claim.

My post in this area for the help request for APACHE was, it seems, lost in
this shuffle in Houston, and Dave .. plus I know not whom else, never saw it
here.  However, as you can see, the link game, in general, for this echo is not
broken.

Had my Apache help request gone through, and even the answers that it has
gotten so far, once cross posted to the OS2LAN echo and seen, my bet is that
this echo would have enough traffic in it to be still traffic validated, but
barely.  Further, when I get the time do act on what suggestions have been
posted on my Apache problem, including what Dave himself suggested, I intend to
re-visit that whole tning.

In specific ..

    ECHO SPECIFIC HERE .. I think!

    1.) It is precisely because Apache for OS/2 is installed in a
        generic form with as little fluff to go wrong as possible,
        that it is up for test here.

    2.) I have a fully paid for version of WSeB that came with my
        DEVCON membership that I have not even put up, to pair
        with whatever Port 80 service I might leave up.

    3.) My IP would *LOV* to have me host my own page at my fixed
        address and I could save some $30 a month to do so.

    4.) There is only so much time to fool with any of this stuff
        with what has to be done to feed me and whomever .. giggle.

    5.) I likely will have lots more questions about the other than
        Apache stuff as I mature in this game.

    6.) To separate that from the actual LAN server questions
        I would have normally thought posting all that here would
        have been right square on topic.


Nor will I in any way question what Dave wants to do about all this.

And I do not want to post messages just to keep it alive, if that's not really
what is wanted.  Nor is this message being posted if it isn't on-topic and
point specific.

Obviously, since I'm seeing your traffic and mine is now getting out, it's a
point in my favor as to support for my explanation of what happened here.
Life's too short to fight over what the minority wants .. grin.

The core issue is that a loss of service at a critical point in a minimal
traffic echo can produce results which have to be carefully thought about. That
is exactly what, I suspect, is happening right now.


--> Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;)

Mike @ 1:117/3001






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