Subj : XML
To   : Scott Little
From : Jan Vermeulen
Date : Wed Jan 01 2003 05:50 pm

sl>  [ 29 Dec 02 17:01, Jan Vermeulen wrote to Scott Little ]

JV>>     And then you get back a standard nodelist - which you will need to
JV>> convert into XML

sl> True,...

   ;-))

sl> ... but probably not in the way you think, as long as the
sl> software is correctly written.  I can take that SLF nodelist, and
sl> incorporate it into the XML nodelist, filling in the missing
sl> pieces.  Only those nodes that don't have a native XML listing will
sl> need to be converted.

sl> This is where the alternate-distribution comes in.  If some *Cs
sl> don't distribute XML segments, XML systems will find alternate
sl> means by which to compile a more complete XML native nodelist, with
sl> less converted parts.

   So far so good. You admit that a standard nodelist is needed in order to
fill in the holes. In stead of hunting for holes, just take the whole nodelist
and convert it to xml. Less PITA.

JV>> in order you have a complete nodelist as required by policy.

sl> Eh, what?  Which part of Policy 4.07 requires every node to have a
sl> full copy of the nodelist (as issued by the IC)?

   Please do not misquote me. It's too obvious.

   What I wrote was:

>#> And then you get back a standard nodelist - which you will need to
>#> convert into XML in order you have a complete nodelist as required
>#> by policy.

   You might want to read P4 a bit beyond 2.1.11 and 2.2 in order to
understand what I really had in mind.

JV>>     Again and once more: you will need nodelist-to-xml software, you
JV>> know, that software they said is a PITA to code.

sl> Users of XML or any alternate nodelists will have to accept that
sl> there may be inaccuracies in the converted portions, such as a
sl> system's name with a dot in it ending up in the domain name field
sl> as well.  Such nodes can be flagged as suspicious during the
sl> conversion, and treated with caution by XML software.

   Well, this is the first time that you admit there will be flaws; we do make
progress, do we not?

   -=<[ JV ]>=-


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